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10:12 pm: C-SPAN Presidential Election Results
pretty map. details on each state.

Electoral Vote totals: Bush 178, Kerry 112.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 10:19:10 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [342 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ma'am, I'm sorry, but the link didn't work...
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 11/02/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Write this down: Bush 299! looks like bush will take Fl, OH, CO, NV, NM, AR, AK and wins!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/02/2004 23:40 Comments || Top||


Yahoo snapshot as of 10:55 p.m.
Yahoo snapshot as of 10:55 p.m.
Candidate Electoral States Won Vote % Votes
Bush 195 22 51% 29,714,094
Kerry 133 12 48% 27,777,818
Posted by: Fred || 11/02/2004 10:50:28 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [250 views] Top|| File under:


Presidential Race at 10:15 p.m.
Election 2004

Florida
5593 of 7241 precincts - 77 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 2,829,802 - 52 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 2,572,961 - 47 percent

Ohio
2507 of 11477 precincts - 22 percent
George W. Bush (i) Rep 708,716 - 52 percent
John F. Kerry Dem 635,843 - 47 percent

• Parties swap Senate seats in Ga., Ill.
• Ky. Republican Northup keeps House seat

Presidential Summary
27 percent - Nationwide precincts reporting
Kerry Dem 17,693,211 votes - 47 percent
Has won 11 states with 112 electoral votes
Leads in 4 states with 36 electoral votes

Bush Rep 19,548,309 votes - 52 percent
Has won 20 states with 178 electoral votes
Leads in 9 states with 104 electoral votes

Nader Ind 112,858 votes - 0 percent
Has won 0 states with 0 electoral votes
Leads in 0 states with 0 electoral votes

Others 180,835 votes - 0 percent
Has won 0 states with 0 electoral votes
Leads in 0 states with 0 electoral votes

Needed to win: 270 of the total 538 electoral votes
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 10:12:12 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [256 views] Top|| File under:


For obsessives: some sites updating election situation all day today
National Review: Kerryspot
National Review: Battleground
National Review: The Corner
Drudge Report
Megapundit (live returns)
Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city...A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location...
Instapundit
NZ Bear
hat tip instapundit. NZBear has more livebloggers.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 11:05:52 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [347 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hOLY Frijole!!! Go to NZ bear and click on mega pundits site. It has the states...

New Hampshire 61 to 37 BUSH!! Dare I get hopeful?
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#2  I worked polls today - handing out sample ballots. According to those who had worked the district before, the turnout was indeed huge.

I don't have any data or experience to back this up - but judging from what the paid Republican "manager" said, it was an area expected to go Kerry. Judging from my friends and neighbors, I had expected the same. However, judging from what who picked which sample ballot..I'd say the advantage was ...ever so slightly ....but recognizable....Bush!
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:42 Comments || Top||

#3  BUSH! BUSH! BUSH!!

Come on Everybody!! BUSH!! BUSH!! BUSH!!

(and to think I used to be a lib!!)
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:46 Comments || Top||

#4  The NH result is two small towns that, by tradition, cast the first votes in every presidential election. Too small a sample to mean anything as statistics go. Still, a nice morale booster.
Posted by: Mike || 11/02/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Yeah...well how about these apples???

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002962.php


hehehheehh....I'm beginning to think I feel good...and I haven't even started pouring yet :-)
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:54 Comments || Top||

#6  I don't know, I've got some very good friends who live in Nahua and they tell me don't be surprised if President Bush wins.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/02/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#7  Just voted in Santee, CA - took 5 minutes, no lines, but place was full
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#8  2b-ready for a nice glass of BUSHmills?
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/02/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#9  ohhh yeah! I'm ready for a good glass of ANYTHING...but it's still early...so I'm just having popcorn for lunch......
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#10  It seems like all the polls are now acknowledging that Bush will get FL. Seems to me like that would be the race if...IF true.


ohpleaseohplease
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 13:10 Comments || Top||

#11  I must go find a current video that features the faces of Kerry's aids. It is late enough into the day for that to tell me everything I need to know.
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#12  Bush will Win. God cannot be so cruel.

This is my last post until I can compose myself.

I worked the polls the AM, and things are going great for Bush. More volunteers than we can use in most places.

But it seems so small now.

I will be out the rest of the day and probably tomorrow to help out a Marine. He's one of "my kids" that I helped in youth group (as a drill intructor then later as a Big Brother). He is coming home from Al Anbar province in Iraq. He was one of the best and brightests kids I have ever known, someone who made the world a better place.

His funeral is tomorrow.

I do not cry, my dad would never allow it - and neither would the world in which I grew up, or lived in. Except this once. I will be crying and praying at my Church with his mom and a group of friends, adults and kids. God speed his soul - they sure are getting a good one, a Marine to guard the Gates of Heaven this time.

I know I shouldnt post when I'm this messed up. But, this is personal now. And I'm already boiling. If you are not with me, then you are against me. And right now, against me is not a good palce to be.

I will cry. I will grieve. I will pray. And then I will start back to work to make sure we exterminate Islamic Fascism and the people that aid and abet it from the planet, to my last dollar, last drop of blood, my last breath.

THEY DESERVE NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#13  Everyone into the O-club to salute Old Spook's fallen comrade.

Thank you, OS, and I'm sorry you have such dreadful duty today. Be well.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#14  OS: we shall prevail.

Vengeance is mine. I shall repay.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#15  You'll all be in our prayers.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||

#16  OS: Heartfelt condolences from a former Squid in Texas. God speed!

"NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION."

I have held this view since Sept. 11th 2001.

AR
Posted by: Analog Roam || 11/02/2004 13:35 Comments || Top||

#17  My prayers are with you and his family Old Spook. I thank God that there are good folks like him is this world. Its what makes all of this worth it.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/02/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#18  OS: Heartfelt condolences and my prayers are with you and his family from an old Marine ('61-'65)
Semper Fi
Jack
Posted by: Jack Bross || 11/02/2004 13:46 Comments || Top||

#19  Old Patriot

My sincerest condoleances for the death of your friend, transmit them too to his family. Lucky is the country who has such people between its citizens.
Posted by: JFM || 11/02/2004 14:21 Comments || Top||

#20  Old Spook, we cry with you over the death of this fine young American. Please convey our heartfelt thanks to his family. Our determination to win this war so that so that more do not have to die in such a cause will never be dimmed. The evil ones may not yet know it, but they've already lost. And they will not enjoy their learning process.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 14:48 Comments || Top||

#21  OS - My condolences on your loss. Its people like him (and you) who ensure that those of us here are able to be free.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/02/2004 14:55 Comments || Top||

#22  BUSH! BUSH! BUSH!!

Last Saturday me and my wife were out and passed a Bush rally.

We started saying 'Bush! Dick! Bush! Dick!' and, well, it descended from there :) Luckily we were in the van at the time.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/02/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#23  CF? Identity theft?
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 15:01 Comments || Top||

#24  OS, I just sent a condolence message to a Duke grad who was killed yesterday in Al Abnar. If not the same person, he sounds of the same quality. What is it about the Marines? (Not to discount those in the other services, I honor them as well.) My thoughts and prayers are with you, him and his family. We must win this so these fine young men no longer need to die.
Posted by: remote man || 11/02/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#25  Semper Fi OS. Prayers, Fair winds and following seas.

JH
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/02/2004 17:12 Comments || Top||

#26  OS - I'm so sorry about your friend. I walked through Arlington Cemetery this afternoon and said a prayer for him and his family. God Bless you and his family.
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#27  My condolences, OS, for the loss of your friend. Rest assured, his friends will prevail.
Posted by: Grunter || 11/02/2004 22:25 Comments || Top||

#28  OS, my families condolences to your loss, I am an old Marine and he will be in our prayers.
Posted by: djh_usmc || 11/02/2004 22:54 Comments || Top||


Arabia
uss cole suspects escape
Ten Yemenis suspected of involvement in the deadly October 2000 attack on the USS Cole escaped from a jail Friday in the southern port of Aden, local authorities said. The men broke out of a window around 5:00 am (0200 GMT) and the jailers realized about an hour later that they were gone, said the officials, who requested anonymity. Among those who escaped was Jamal Badawi, one of the principal suspects held over the attack, which killed 17 US sailors and was claimed by Osama bin Laden's Al-Qaeda terrorist network. Local officials said seven other suspects in the Cole case remained in prison. Arriving at the jail after the escape, police found the bars cut over one of the windows and did not find any trace of the fugitives. Authorities have launched a manhunt, distributing pictures of the fugitives to police posts around the Aden area.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 3:28:53 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is this the second or third time these yahoos have escaped from a Yemeni jail?

I wonder if members of the authorities are actuallt closet jihadis?
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 11/02/2004 16:04 Comments || Top||

#2  That's what happens when you surround them.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#3  I think they prolly got out of Dodge the same day. Either that or they're laying low until the place cools off and then, with the help of friendly locals, scoot. But where can they go?
Posted by: Lucky || 11/02/2004 16:54 Comments || Top||

#4  They can run...
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Wow - who'da thunk it?
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#6  yeah that sounds like a load of shit too me
Posted by: smokeysinse || 11/02/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#7  The Yeman Prison system must be modeled after the Gotham City Prison- the Riddler escaped 5 times. the joker escaped 6 times
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||

#8  The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist, preferably immediately upon being found.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 17:39 Comments || Top||

#9  Hope that there was someone waiting outside the cell window to take them to an undisclosed location in an unknown country where they could be properly interrogated by folks who just might work for one or more agencies of the Great Satan without embarrassment to Yemen.
Posted by: RWV || 11/02/2004 17:51 Comments || Top||


Al Qaeda Saudi branch has new chief: reports
DUBAI - The Saudi branch of the Al Qaeda network has a new leader, Saud bin Hamoud al-Otaibi, one of the most wanted terror suspects on the run, reports said on Monday. Otaibi was identified as the new chief of "Al Qaeda in the Arabian peninsula" on one of the main Internet sites used by Islamists, where a biography of him was also posted. Otaibi signed the editorial of the latest issue of the group's online magazine, Sawt al-Jihad (Voice of Jihad), but without identifying himself as Mister Big leader.

An audio message marking the current Muslim fasting month of Ramadan, accessible on the Islamist website, purported to have come from Otaibi. The man, who spoke extensively about jihad (holy war) and called on Saudi militants to join the anti-US fight in Iraq, did not say he was the new Al Qaeda chief in Saudi Arabia.

But the Washington-based Saudi Institute, which regularly publishes news about Saudi Arabia, said in an email received by AFP that Otaibi, 33, had become Al Qaeda's new chief in the kingdom, saying this "confirmed" its earlier claim that former leader Saleh al-Oufi had been killed by Saudi security forces.
Excellent!

Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Steve White || 11/02/2004 12:42:25 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [310 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That is an awesome picture. All hail Ming the Merciless!
Posted by: The Doctor || 11/02/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian Scientist Surrenders Arms-Grade Plutonium
A Russian atomic scientist surrendered eight containers filled with arms-grade nuclear material to police Tuesday after keeping it in his garage for eight years, Russian media reported. Leonid Grigorov found the 14 ounces of plutonium-238 in a heap of rubbish at his laboratory near Russia's border with Kazakhstan, Itar-Tass news agency said. Interfax news agency said the lab, looted after the Soviet collapse in 1991, was eventually closed and deserted. Grigorov decided to hide the material, which could theoretically be used to make a "dirty bomb," in a box and only handed it in to local police after a newspaper offered a reward to anyone who surrendered weapons. "As an expert, I knew that I had to (hide it) to avoid tragic consequences," Grigorov was quoted as saying. Experts said Grigorov's plutonium-238 is normally used to generate heat but, if mixed with other materials, could be used in a nuclear explosive device. It is much more radioactive than plutonium-239, a radio-isotope normally used in atomic bombs.

In a separate incident, 97 pounds of radioactive scrap metal was discovered in Chelaybinsk, Tass reported Tuesday. The region is heavily polluted with radioactive material from its nuclear reactor and plants producing plutonium for atomic bombs. The local Mayak nuclear complex dumped 2.68 billion cubic feet of highly radioactive waste into a river between 1949 and 1956 and suffered an explosion in 1957, showering radiation over the southern Urals mountain region. Tass said the discovery was the second such find in a week, although it did not say how big the earlier find was.
Posted by: Fred || 11/02/2004 12:58:27 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The russian is to be ocmmended, he took them to keep it safe. He'd written several letters complaining of lax security, he was worried terrorists or others would get it.

Now he handed it in, do you think he got the cash reward? NO!

He was arrested, silly and thrown in jail.

That's the new Russia under Putin.

I am inclined to like Putin as a strongman to be tough on Islamists but he will be a bad enemy in the long run as he will take Russia back to being a dictatorship.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 16:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Putin = Musharraf in Whiteface. A pathetic, transitional figure trying vainly to prevent his nation from becoming a failed state.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#3  To a certain extent, people get the government they deserve.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 16:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Mrs D, I've been saying that when Clinton was President, but I don't think I could bring myself to such statement should Kerry manage somehow to defeat Bush.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/02/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#5  he thought about turning it in when the 3 rd ear showed up on his forehead
Posted by: smokeysinse || 11/02/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I hope the US embassy is smart enough to give him a reward. 10,000 dollars is not much to us, but is quite a lot to a Russian scientist. Reward him and others for doing the right thing and the word will spread.
Posted by: ed || 11/02/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||


Maskhadov looks to be getting ready to give it up
A minister from the self-proclaimed Chechen Republic of Ichkeria promised to "forget and forgive all offences of the past if Russian authorities start negotiations for peace".

Umar Khambiyev spoke at a conference on Chechnya held in Stockholm over the weekend, Kommersant newspaper wrote on Monday. Being the health minister of Aslan Maskhadov's government, he said he spoke on his behalf. Maskhadov is ready to resign if an interim international administration heads Chechnya, Khambiyev said.

The conference was held by the Swedish human rights organization "Swedish Peace and Arbitration Society" (SPAS). Khambiyev who currently lives in France was the only Maskhadov aide to attend the conference. Russian embassy officials refused to take part in it, the paper wrote. "The position of our state on the issue of peace negotiations with Maskhadov's people is well-known," they were quoted by the paper as saying. "With them, there is nothing to talk about but the conditions of surrender."

Swedish Foreign Ministry officials also refused to attend the conference. "This looks like a gesture of support for (Russian president) Vladimir Putin and correspondingly an oblique approval of his extremely rough politics in Chechnya," the SPAS president, Frida Blom, said.

Khambiyev's statement was criticized by Chechen separatist leaders. Maskhadov's official spokesman, Usman Ferzauli, quoted by the paper said Khambiyev "acted spontaneously".

"No one has given him the right to speak on behalf of the president and the Chechen people," Ferzauli said, calling Khambiyev's words on Maskhadov's possible resignation "nonsense".

"It is useless call on human rights activists, even if very authoritative. It is possible to stop the war with the good will of the Russian and Chechen leadership, no intermediaries are needed here," the paper quoted Ferzauli as saying.

Umar Khambiyev is a brother of Magomed Khambiyev, Maskhadov's defense minister who surrendered to Russian troops in March.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 2:20:55 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Hard boyz to be separated to avoid any more recruitment behind bars
The government has ordered most of the suspects jailed over the Madrid terror bombings to be dispersed in prisons around Spain as part of a plan to prevent Islamic radicals from recruiting behind bars, a newspaper said Monday. El Pais said 14 of those 16 suspects, who are all in prisons in the Madrid area, will be transferred to prisons as far south as Andalusia and to Galicia in Spain's northwest corner. Interior Ministry officials were not immediately available to comment on the report.

The measure comes in response to Judge Baltasar Garzon's recent warning that Spanish prisons have become breeding grounds for Islamic terrorists willing to commit suicide attacks. Police who foiled a new, alleged plot to assassinate Garzon and other judges probing Islamic terror with a suicide truck bombing of the National Court said that cell was recruited in Spanish prisons among Muslims serving terms for common crimes. Of 18 suspects in that alleged plot, 10 were already in prison and eight were at large but had done jail time, officials said. All 18 now face preliminary charges of belonging to or collaborating with a terrorist organization. And of 13 more suspects due to be questioned this week, five were already in jail. El Pais said the Interior Ministry's new plan for keeping closer tabs on Islamic radicals in prison includes isolating new terror suspects from other inmates, restricting their movements and monitoring their communications.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 2:02:31 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [247 views] Top|| File under:


Darkazanli awaits trial in Germany
A 46-year-old businessman, who is alleged to have financed the al-Qaeda terrorist network, is to give evidence this week in the retrial in Germany of suspected 9/11 helper Mounir al- Motassadeq. A court spokeswoman confirmed a local press report that Mamoun Darkazanli will appear when the Motassadeq trial resumes in Hamburg on Wednesday. Darkazanli, a dual German-Syrian national, is in custody after being arrested by police in the northern German city more than two weeks ago. He has been called to give evidence by lawyers acting for Dominic J. Puopolo, a US co-plaintiff in the trial.

Darkazanli is awaiting deportation to Spain where he is wanted in an investigation into his involvement in the 11 September 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States. The Spanish arrest warrant described Darkazanli as one "of the key figures of the al-Qaeda terror network" and the permanent contact person and assistant of al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Germany. He is thought to have been a confidante in Hamburg of the 9/11 suicide pilots.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 1:53:14 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [252 views] Top|| File under:


Moroccan gunman kills Dutch film director
Dutch film maker Theo van Gogh, who made a controversial film about Islamic culture recently, has been shot dead in Amsterdam, Dutch police say. Police arrested a man in a nearby park after an exchange of gunfire. Van Gogh, 47, had received death threats after his film Submission, on violence against women in Islamic societies, was shown on Dutch TV. The film was made with liberal Dutch politician Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a Somali refugee who fled an arranged marriage. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has been under police protection since the film was aired. She has also received death threats and has renounced the Islamic faith. Van Gogh's production company told the Dutch news agency ANP that he had been shot dead. Both the suspect and a policeman suffered bullet wounds and are now in hospital. The AFP news agency says his film Submission triggered an outcry from Dutch Muslims because it featured four abused women in see-through robes showing their breasts with Koranic text painted on their bodies.

MORE:
A suspect, a 26-year-old man with dual Dutch-Moroccan nationality, was arrested after a shootout with officers that left him wounded, police said. Filmmaker Theo van Gogh had been threatened after the August airing of the movie "Submission," which he made with a right-wing Dutch politician who had renounced the Islamic faith of her birth. Police had kept watch on Van Gogh's house as protection immediately after the film's release, but it was dropped because there was no concrete evidence of a threat, public prosecutor Leo de Wit said. In a recent radio interview, Van Gogh — who is the great-grandson of the brother of Vincent van Gogh, who was also named Theo — dismissed the threats and called the movie "the best protection I could have. It's not something I worry about."

Still more:
The national news service NOS said the suspect was friends with an [unnamed]18-year-old Muslim who is awaiting trial on charges of planning a terrorist attack. The Dutch Justice Ministry said it could not confirm the report.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 11/02/2004 6:31:39 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [246 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Another wake-up call for the Dutch: how do you like your future masters? I spoke with a Dutch EU official recently who said he didn't mind if Islam became the culture of Holland.
Posted by: V is for Victory || 11/02/2004 6:45 Comments || Top||

#2  EU official is the operative portion of the statement. The Dutch will not go Dhimmi. Their pain threshold may be high but the Muslims will be very sorry when they decide to do something about it.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 7:01 Comments || Top||

#3  This should also serve as a wake up call to all the enlightened Hollywood and recording industry types. They are in for a rude shock if the think that the religion of peace™ will tolerate their existance for one second after the first scene or lyric that even slightly steps out of line with sharia. Freedom of expression is not the province of the Dhimmi.
Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm || 11/02/2004 7:32 Comments || Top||

#4  At this point, only a bloody civil war and forced deportations will solve the problem. The left has rammed a dagger into the back of civilization.
Posted by: VRWconspiracy || 11/02/2004 7:40 Comments || Top||

#5  They know the religion of the attacker and are not saying? If they do and are the limit may have already been reached perhaps?

Pity the religious nut job that get between me and my vices. This doesn't just apply to muslims either.

Oh and I do have a threat level 3 vest so you better make it a head shot if you come after me.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 7:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Reports are that the murderer is Moroccan and was wearing a traditional djellaba dress.

There are one million Moslem immigrants in the Netherlands. A bit over 5% of the population.

How are the Dutch going to reclaim their country? is it too late?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/02/2004 8:03 Comments || Top||

#7  5% is nothing. I hope they can swim.
I have a friend who works in corrections there. Many inmates are muslims. They don't obey the law and they don't respect the native dutch. They are not popular.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 8:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Looks like the Dutch "multicultural" business model is going belly- up....tic tac tic tac
Posted by: General Pershing || 11/02/2004 8:45 Comments || Top||

#9  From the AP:

A suspect, a 26-year-old man with dual Dutch-Moroccan nationality, was arrested after a shootout with officers that left him wounded, police said.

Filmmaker Theo van Gogh had been threatened after the August airing of the movie "Submission," which he made with a right-wing Dutch politician who had renounced the Islamic faith of her birth. Van Gogh had received police protection after its release.

Dutch national broadcaster NOS and other media reported that Van Gogh's killer shot and stabbed his victim and left a note on his body. NOS said witnesses described the attacker as having an "Arab appearance."

A witness who lives in the neighborhood heard six shots, and saw the man concealing a gun. She said he walked away slowly, spoke to someone at the edge of the park, and then ran.

"He was walking slowly, like he was trying to be cool," she said, describing him as wearing a long beard and Islamic garb. "He was either an Arabic man or someone disguised as a Muslim," she said.

Another witness told Dutch Radio 1 the killer arrived by bicycle and shot Van Gogh as he got out of a car. "He fell backward on the bicycle path and just laid there. The shooter stayed next to him and waited. Waited to make sure he was dead."
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 8:51 Comments || Top||

#10  If 1% of the Moslems in the Netherlands are willing to murder an outspoken figure (such as Pim Fortuyn and Theo Van Gogh), and the murderers manage to kill or maim at least one policeman before capture, where will the country be?

That would translate to 10,000 dead leaders (intellectuals and/or politicians) and more than 10,000 policemen either dead or seriously wounded.

I doubt there are that many prominent intellectuals ready to denounce Islamofascism at the risk of their life, in the Netherlands, today. I also doubt the Dutch police have the requisite degree of training to deal with Moslem assassins. One percent of Moslems being dedicated Islamofascists is probably a low estimate -- as all evidence and surveys show that a minority of Moslems actually opposing Islamofascism. I wonder if the Dutch people will value liberty over dhimmitude.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/02/2004 9:14 Comments || Top||

#11  I wish Michael Moore would do a movie about Islam.
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#12  More from AP: Police said Van Gogh's killer shot and stabbed his victim and left a note on his body. They declined to comment on reports that his neck was slashed and would not reveal the contents of the note.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 10:22 Comments || Top||

#13  Ritualistic Islamoid infidel psycho slaughter - in the heart of the EU. The victim a prominent individual and opponent of the cult of Islam. Can't run any more, people. The wolf isn't even at the door. It's in the living room. It's time to take sides and be counted (and that includes moderate, secular and lapsed Muslims).
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 10:28 Comments || Top||

#14  And for the record, Theo van Gogh was the first to know of his brother Vincent's genius and talent. He supported him financially for many years so that V. could paint. V. only sold three paintings during his lifetime - Theo made it possible for V's legacy. The world is a lesser place without Theo's great-grand nephew; let's hope his sacrifice is not in vain.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#15  "It would be unacceptable if a difference of opinion led to this brutal murder," he said."

What a stupid thing to say. What else could have led to his murder? How can we, westerners, be so stupid? Don't we already know that when we upset members of the religious of peace the most common result is death? The only reason that muslims have "behaved" in this country is they know there are still enough Americans with balls that if they try something like that here, lots of them are going to receive the same treatment.

Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/02/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#16  Did anybody notice that nowhere in the article the author refers to the killer as muslim?
Now, the guy "insulted" Jews and Christians alike but he was killed by a MUSLIM! This major detail escapes the author...how disgusting the Media has become!
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/02/2004 10:57 Comments || Top||

#17  Go here to see what the jihadis had to say...

From comments at Jihadwatch, "The text on top of the page (Insha Allah ruimt Allah deze letterlijke en figuurlijke zwijn snel op! Salaam o aliekoem) is translated into: Allah willing will Allah kill this pig. Salaam O Aliekoem."
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#18  like Lincoln, his work was done and his reward awaited.
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:28 Comments || Top||

#19  KILL EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THOSE MONSTERS!

DROP THE DAMNED BOMBS UNTIL THE RUBBLE BOUNCES. THEN SALT THE GROUND. THEY DESERVE NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#20  Pallihollandia
Posted by: Anonymous6236 || 11/02/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#21  How to handle these guys? Just read the next article on how France is cracking down even worse than the worst Patriot Act nightmare of a Marin County wine sipper.
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/02/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#22  How to handle these guys? Just read the next article on how France is cracking down even worse than the worst Patriot Act nightmare of a Marin County wine sipper.
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/02/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#23  What's with the AP hack's repeated use of "right-wing" to describe the victim and his conservative political allies? Does the AP habitually refer to socialist politicians as "left-wing"?

Or is the start of yet another PC blame-the-victim media orgy of the kind that followed Fortuyn's killing?
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 15:54 Comments || Top||

#24  CM-I don't know. As long as so many Euros believe as the Eloi in the Time Machine believed-that they should unquestioningly walk towards their self-sacrifice because they deserve it, "handling" the situation seems unlikely.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/02/2004 15:57 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Crackdown nets terrorism suspect
TIGHT U.S.-ELECTION security at Pearson airport has led to a suspected terrorist being nabbed and returned to Pakistan within hours of arriving in Canada, police say. Airport cops said the suspect was refused entry Sunday night at the new Terminal 1 during heightened checks for terrorists, who the U.S. fears are planning to disrupt today's elections. The unidentified man was detained and questioned for more than four hours at an airport holding centre by the RCMP, CSIS, Canada immigration and Customs agents, police said. Airport officers said documents were found in the man's luggage linking him to certain organizations.

He was placed on a return flight to Pakistan early yesterday morning, officers said, adding he will be met on his return to Islamabad by anti-terrorism cops. "We believe he is involved in terrorism or in some terrorist organization," one officer said yesterday. "This guy was the subject of a lot of police attention." Immigration spokesman Rejean Cantlon, citing privacy laws, said yesterday he couldn't comment on the incident.

Ron Moran, president of the Customs Excise Union, said U.S. police have told his union officials in meetings that they fear a terrorist incident to mar today's vote. "They (U.S.) are relying on us (Canada) to add another layer of security," he said, adding that the U.S. is concerned a threat against them may be staged from Canada. Michel Proulx, of the Canada Border Services Agency, said officers are inspecting vehicles and motorists leaving and entering the country. "We have increased our vigilance," Proulx said. "We co-operate closely with the U.S. on border issues."
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Southeast Asia
Thai local official beheaded in revenge for deaths of Muslims
A local Buddhist official was beheaded by suspected Muslim insurgents as revenge for the deaths of 85 rioters in Thailand's mainly Muslim south last week, police said Tuesday. The head of Jaran Torae, an assistant village leader, was left Tuesday on a roadside with a letter attached saying the killers were avenging the deaths of Muslim rioters in a confrontation with government forces, said police Lieut. Krit Boonyarith. Police found Jaran's corpse in a rubber plantation about a kilometre from where his head was discovered, Krit said.

"This is dire revenge for the innocent Muslim youths who were massacred at the Tak Bai protest," the handwritten letter reportedly said. Jaran, 58, an official in Sukhirin district of Narathiwat province, went missing late Monday, police said. He was shot in the chest, and police believed his head was cut off after his death.

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's government has come under severe domestic and international criticism for its handling of the riot. The army general in charge of security in the south - seen as a hardliner against Muslim insurgents there - was transferred to an inactive post Tuesday. Narathiwat is one of three Muslim-dominated provinces in the south that have been racked by violence the government blames on Muslim militants seeking a separate state. More than 400 people, many of them policemen, have died this year in the region. Muslims account for about five per cent of predominantly Buddhist Thailand's population.
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Iraq-Jordan
Zarqawi Group Shows Beheading of Japanese-Web
A group led by al Qaeda ally Abu Musab al-Zarqawi showed the beheading of Japanese hostage Shosei Koda in Iraq while he was lying on top of a U.S. flag in an Internet video posted Tuesday. Al Qaeda Organization of Holy War in Iraq said Tokyo had offered a ransom of "millions of dollars" for 24-year-old Koda. It warned Japan to withdraw its forces from Iraq or "drown in the hell of the mujahideen" along with "crusader forces." Japanese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hatsuhisa Takashima denied the ransom claim. "It's just groundless. We have not done that," he said, denouncing the video posting as "disgusting."
More gruesome details at link.
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Hassan Faints From Fear in New Hostage Video
A newly released videotape of Margaret Hassan, a relief worker abducted in Iraq, warns of "dangerous and serious" deadlines, Ireland's premier said Tuesday. Al-Jazeera refused to air the tape of the Dublin-born hostage, saying it was "too graphic."
Afraid it's going to upset the base?
Irish Prime Minister Bertie Ahern, who read the text of the video but hadn't seen it, said he believes it shows the 59-year-old Hassan pleading for her life directly to the camera before suddenly fainting, according to Britain's Press Association news agency. He said a bucket of water is then thrown over her head and she is filmed lying wet and helpless on the ground before getting up and crying, the agency said.
Jihadis asserting their fragile masculinity by terrifying a middle-aged female charity worker. These are Moore's idea of 'minutemen', remember.
Ahern told the Irish parliament that the video was "distressing" and said "there were a number of very dangerous and very serious timescales stated." He did not elaborate.
The much vaunted Irish neutrality's not doing anyone any favours, is it?
Her captors previously released three videos of her, and in two of them she pleads for her life, saying she fears she will be beheaded. But she does not say when, and none of her kidnappers have appeared in any of the tapes. Hassan said in earlier tapes that her captors demand the withdrawal of British troops from Iraq and the freeing of female Iraqi prisoners held by the U.S.-led coalition. No group has claimed responsibility for her abduction.
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#1  Oops, Seafarious beat me to the post. Please delete.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#2  I like your comments better. Yours stays.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#3  This is the gone-native expat who suddenly rediscovered her Irish citizenship, right? Bigley-ism continues apace.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||

#4  This is why I want BUSH to win the election because a Kerry victory means people try to nuancedly negotiate and try to understand the position of jihadis. I just want them shot. They should be charged with stealing oxygen.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#5  I agree with you Anon1, but I have do feel a nervousness in my stomach. If Bush doesn't win, we're in for a *rough* ride.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 11/02/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#6  god im praying bush wins so we can string the fckers who did this up!
Posted by: Shep UK || 11/02/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Tony (UK) I have been thinking this same thought for months now, and here is what I have come up with. Regardless of the winner of the presidential election, we all have to be strong and to work for what is good and right. Our goal is to erase Islamofascism from the globe. We must demand this from our leaders. We also have to promote decent and healthy moral, ethical, and lifestyle standards for us and our families. The present western narcissistic culture and lifestyle does not cut it. The Republicans have strayed from the course like the dems. We must instill a sense of personal responsibility to people.

In short there has to be a transformation in western society as well as in Muslim society, if we as a civilization are going to survive.

I have little faith in the political parties that they will do it. It will require the people to demand the change. When the people lead, the leaders will follow.

Anyway, I will end this rant with saying that this is the big picture task that is before us, regardless of whose party you belong to. The parties need to feel some fire and brimstone for the ethics and values they have sacrificed for whoring for votes.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/02/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#8  the mighty islamic warrior...there is no negotiations with monsters like these noble islamic warriors.... time to bring back carpet bombing..

or maybe it is time for western extremists to begin kidnapping iman asshats in the West and send a video to al jazeer...demanding release of all non-combatants held or off with the head...

Posted by: Dan || 11/02/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#9  AP you are absolutely right.

Make it part of each individual's daily/weekly goals: instill by example a respect for reason, virtue, and freedom in the people one interacts with. There are many ways. For instance, if someone echoes Michael Moore in front of you, state firmly that you disagree -- don't bother arguing, just voice a public, polite disagreement. That will shut them down, and let others know that it's OK to openly disagree with the lefty lunatics. People who are curious will come to you afterwards and ask for intellectual ammo.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/02/2004 16:58 Comments || Top||

#10  good point, Kalle and AP:

my friend has been doing what you say. She had dinner with friends recently and some loudmouth started going off about why he hates Bush, quoting Michael Moore et al.

She frankly told him she disagrees and that she's not interested in hearing his views ad infinitum.

He rudely shouted her down, but I think her quiet voice penetrated the friends who were listening more.

It gave them something to think about. IE: not everyone has to agree with the moonbats!

There's a great Theodore Dalrymple book called 'the worldview that makes the underclass' or something like that.

It is all about how people need to take responsibility for their actions and half the reason society is so full of whinging bludgers and multiculti loons is because people don't take responsibility for their actions. I thoroughly recommend it. It is written by a prison psychiatrist.

Alaska Paul, I think you would really enjoy it.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||

#11  Is that the same Dalrymple who contributes to The Spectator in the UK?
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Afghan kidnappers issue demands
A militant Afghan group holding three foreign U.N. workers has given negotiators a list of Taliban prisoners and said it will kill the hostages unless they -- and all Afghans jailed in Guantanamo Bay -- are freed. The Afghan Islamic Press (AIP) said the Jaish-e-Muslimeen (Army of Muslims) had handed over the names of at least 25 Taliban followers jailed in Afghanistan whose release it was demanding. "The United Nations has asked for the list of prisoners and we have given a list of at least 25 people inside Afghanistan," AIP quoted the group's leader Mullah Sayed Mohammad Akbar Agha as saying.
And why was the UN asking for a list?
"But we can't give a list for the Guantanamo Bay prisoners. There are many Afghan prisoners there. None All of them should be released," Agha said.
Don't make me laugh.
The U.N. workers -- Filipino Angelito Nayan, Annetta Flanigan from Northern Ireland and Shqipe Hebibi from Kosovo -- were snatched from a busy Kabul street Thursday, sparking fears that Afghan militants were copying the tactics of insurgents in Iraq. The Pakistan-based AIP did not say if it had the list. Mullah Agha earlier told Reuters that Wednesday's noon (0730 GMT) deadline for the prisoner release remained in place for now but could be extended if negotiations progressed. He said negotiations with a "tajir" -- an influential trader with wide contacts -- were continuing.
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#1  Free deez nutzz with your tongue, bizznitch.
Posted by: The Real Slim Shady || 11/02/2004 18:50 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
US government translation of the bin Laden tape
The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.

Praise be to Allah who created the Creation for His worship and commanded them to be just and permitted the wronged one to retaliate the oppressor in kind.

To proceed, peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.

People of America this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan and deals with the war and its causes and results. Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom. If so, then let him explain to us why we didn't strike — for example — Sweden. And we know that freedom haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19. May Allah have mercy upon them.

No we fight you because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our Nation and just as you lay waste to our Nation, so shall we lay waste to yours. No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure whereas thinking people when disaster strikes make it their priority to look for its causes in order to prevent it happening again. But I am amazed at you even though we are in the 4th year after the events of Sept 11th. Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred. So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and I shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken for you to consider. I say to you Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers, but after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. The bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorized and displaced I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood, and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high-rises demolished over their residents rockets raining down on our homes without mercy the situations was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but didn't respond. In those difficult moments, many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors. And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children. And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy while resistance is terrorism and intolerance. This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr. did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children — also in Iraq — as Bush Jr. did in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages. So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs.

Should a man to be blamed for defending his sanctuary? Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us. This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed repeatedly for years before September 11th. And you can read this, if you wish in my interview with Scott in Time Magazine in 1996 or with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997 or my meeting with John Weiner in 1998. You can observe it practically, if you wish in Kenya and Tanzania and in Aden. And you can read it in my interview with Abdul Bari Atwan as well as my interviews with Robert Fisk. The latter is one of your compatriots and co-religionists and I consider him to be neutral. So are the pretenders to freedom at the White House and the channels controlled by them able to run an interview with him so that he may relay to the American people what he has understood from us to be the reasons for our fight against you? If you were to avoid these reasons, you will have taken the correct path that will lead America to the security that it was in before September 11th.

This concerned the causes of the war. As for its results, they have been by the Grace of Allah, positive and enormous and have by all standards exceeded all expectations. This is due to many factors, chief amongst them that we haven't' found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries half of which are ruled by the military and the other half of which are ruled by the songs of kings and presidents. Our experience with them in lengthy and both types are replete with those who are characterized by pride, arrogance, greed, and misappropriation of wealth. This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Sr. to the region at a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries all of a sudden he was affected by those monarchies and military regimes and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions to embezzle the public wealth of the Nation without supervision or accounting. So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act under the pretense of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors and didn't forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty. All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two Mujahedin to the farthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human economic and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits to their private companies. This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers as we alongside the Mujahedin bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat. All Praise is due to Allah.

So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah is willing and nothing is too great for Allah. That being said, those who say that al-Qa'ida has won against the administration in the White House or that the administration has lost in this war have not been precise because when one scrutinizes the results, one cannot say that Al-Qa'ida is the sole factor in achieving these spectacular gains. Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations — whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction — has helped al-Qaida to achieve those enormous results. And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States even if the intentions differ. And it was to these sorts of notions and their like that the British diplomat and others were referring in their lectures at the Royal Institute of International Affairs (when they pointed out that) for example, al-Qaida spent $500,000 on the event, while America in the incident and its aftermath lost — according to the lowest estimates — more than 500 billion dollars, meaning that every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars by the permission of Allah besides the loss of a huge number of jobs. As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record, astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the Mujahedin recently forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan with Allah's permission. It is true that this shows that al-Qaida has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained something of which anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind will be convinced. And it all shows that the real loser is... you. It's the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Atta. Allah have mercy on him that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes before Bush and his administration notice. It never occurred to us that the Command-in-Chief of the American Armed Forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone at the time when they most needed him. But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers we were given three times the period required to execute the operations. All praise is due to Allah. And it's no secret to you that the thinkers and perceptive ones from among the Americans warned Bush before the war and told him.

All that you want for securing America and removing the weapons of mass destruction — assuming they exist — is available to you and the nations of the world are with you in the inspections and it is in the interest of America that it not be thrust into an unjustified war with an unknown outcome. But the darkness of the black gold blurred his vision and insight and he gave priority to private interests over the public interest of America. So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threatened his future. He fits the saying "Like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth". So I say to you over 15,000 of our people have been killed and tens of thousands injured while more than a thousand of you have been killed and more than 10,000 injured. And Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all of those killed from both sides all for the sake of oil and keeping their private companies in business. Be aware that it is the nation who punishes the weak man when he causes the killing of one of its citizens for money, while letting the powerful one get off when he causes the killing of more than 1000 of its sons also for money. And the same goes for your allies in Palestine. They terrorize the women and children and kill and capture the men as they lie sleeping with their families on the mattresses that you may recall that for every action, there is a reaction.

Finally, it behooves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are important testaments which should be studied and researched. Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their gestures before the collapse where they say "How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak without supervision". It is as if they were telling you, "The people of America hold to account those who have caused us to be killed and happy is he who learns from others mistakes". And among that which I read in their gestures is a verse of poetry:

Injustice chases its people
And how unhealthy the bed of tyranny
As has been said
An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure
And know that
It is better to return to the truth than persist in error
And that the wise man doesn't squander his security, wealth, and children for the sake of the liar in the White House.

In conclusion, I tell you in all truth that your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qa'ida. No, your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security, has automatically guaranteed its own security. And Allah is our Guardian and Helper while you have no Guardian or Helper.
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#1  dirka, dirka jihadi.......yawn...{thought bubble: what's for dinner tonight}

You'd have to pay me to read this binny boy, and from what I hear, you're allowance doesn't go all that far.
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#2  oops.. "your"
Posted by: 2b || 11/02/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#3  AMERICA, FUCK YA!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/02/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#4  CS - seen Team America, huh? LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 12:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Dead Man Talkin'...
Posted by: mojo || 11/02/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#6  The tape's bogus, folks. C'mon: stealing riffs from Mikey Boy, Krugman, Rock the Vote ("And the real loser is... you")?! Hell, the Beverly Hillbillies ("black gold")? And when did this apocalyptic warrior adopt such a deep interest in economics? He's never shown the slightest interest in economic theory, economic programs or economic warfare. Not one reference to economics in any of the videos, missives, declarations of the last decade. And now, suddenly the focus (if there is one) of this juvenile, rambling, banal rant is... economic warfare!

Ain't Osama, folks. It's as if someone wrote a Bill O'Reilly screed, with Seinfeld touches here and there, and attributed it to Victor Davis Hanson.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 18:03 Comments || Top||


Tale of the tape
Just a few weeks ago, America's finest intel agents and analysts believed they might be on the verge of a big breakthrough in the manhunt for the world's most-wanted terrorist. The net was closing on a Qaeda operative in Pakistan who, it was hoped, could lead them to Osama bin Laden. "It looked like we were really close, maybe one or two people away," one U.S. official told NEWSWEEK. "There was a lot of optimism around here." At the same time, in the lawless tribal territories close to the Afghan border, 30,000 Pakistani troops were tracking down any trace of Al Qaeda. Backed by jets and helicopter gunships, the Pakistanis had killed 246 of the enemy and lost 171 of their own. But after eight months of military operations, bin Laden was nowhere to be found.

Back in Washington last week, the intel community could only sit back and watch a taunting videotape of their target acting like a TV anchor. Looking healthy and reading calmly from a script, bin Laden was far from the caricature of the cave-dwelling fugitive. "It was a psychological downer," the official said. "It's yet more evidence that we haven't been able to find him."

The election was also weighing heavily on the minds of law-enforcement and intel officials protecting the homeland. In a round of teleconferences and meetings, national-security officials debated the bin Laden tape and decided not to ratchet up the national threat warning to orange—a politically fraught dilemma on the eve of an election.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 1:59:32 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [278 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will Bush admit he has OBL in Crawford under the supervision of Rove? He has a few hours or Teresa is a liar!
Posted by: Karnak the Great || 11/02/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Puhleeeze. Even Walter Cronkite knows Binny is in Karl Rove's basement.
Posted by: Crikey || 11/02/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#3  The tape strikes me as bogus. The style's completely off: banal OpEd prose laced with US pop culture references ("black gold"); and allusions to US "mega-corporations" (since when does anyone in the arab world distinguish between a corporation and a "mega-corporation"?); smart-alecky college-kid type insults ("and the loser is ... you") and dopey attempts at wit ("butting" goats and jetliners)....

My money's on its having been outsourced to an American lefty hack.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  sounds like, Lex.

Don't forget the islamists carefully study the culture fractures in our society and one crack to hit before the election could be exactly that.

They know the lefties all think that Bin Liner hit us because of global capitalism. So he makes out that he is not such a bad enemy, he is reasonable, he doesn't really want to hurt us, just vote Kerry and stop global capitalism.

They are smart, he changes tactics to suit the situation. Another bloodthirsty tape will help Bush.

Bin Liner wants Kerry to win.

appeal to the kerry mentality?
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 15:59 Comments || Top||

#5  I'll buy that, Anon1. It also underlines his weakened position, too. No more arrogant bravado aimed at his own base - he knows his only hope now lies in staving off the US in its pursuit of him. He recognises that his fate and his future options rest on the decision of the US electorate today, and he no longer actually believes that it is he who is game master. Erstwhile MD, Global Jihad Inc.; now Robert Fisk's mate. Osama bin LLLoser!
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh Bulldog, Robert Fisk has now become a verb: To Fisk, and this just compounds it doesn't it?

Imagine being described as neutral by O Bin Loser

How must fiskie be feeling today?
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||


Binny lauds the cost of the war in Iraq
Osama bin Laden boasted that the invasion of Iraq has bogged down the United States in a hopeless war that advances al Qaeda's recruitment goals and bin Laden's aim of bankrupting the U.S. economy, according to a translation of the full text of the terrorist leader's remarks on a videotape that surfaced last week.

"The thinkers and perceptive ones from among the Americans warned Bush before the war" about the dangers of invading Iraq, bin Laden said on the tape, according to a U.S. government transcript released yesterday. "But the darkness of the black gold [oil] blurred his vision. . . . The war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threatened his future."

The tape, bin Laden's first videotaped appearance since September 2003, was given to the Qatar-based al-Jazeera television network, which released a seven-minute version Friday. It showed bin Laden saying, among other things, that Americans would be held responsible for electing any president who persecutes Muslims.

Yesterday the network released the entire 18-minute tape, and U.S. officials issued a translation of bin Laden's entire message.

On the tape, the Saudi millionaire brags that he is succeeding beyond his dreams in destabilizing the U.S. economy and bankrupting the U.S. government, asserting that President Bush is easily manipulated into taking military and security steps that harm American interests.

The results of the U.S. war in Iraq, he said, "have been by the grace of Allah positive and enormous, and have by all standards exceeded all expectations."

"The policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations -- whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction -- has helped al Qaeda to achieve these enormous results," bin Laden said. "And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and we are playing as one team toward the economic goals of the United States, even if the intentions differ."

Bin Laden added, "Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all of those killed from both sides, all for the sake of oil and keeping their private companies in business," referring at one point to the Halliburton energy services company, which Vice President Cheney led before his election.

Bin Laden also suggested that the huge sums of money Washington spends on homeland security and the military serve his agenda of weakening the U.S. economy.

"All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration," bin Laden said. "All that we have to do is to send two mujaheddin to the farthest point East to raise a piece of cloth on which is written 'al Qaeda' in order to make the generals race there, to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses, without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies."

He added: "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy." He noted remarks by counterterrorism experts that al Qaeda's expenses in attacking America are a tiny fraction of the cost of Washington's counterterrorism efforts. "Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million [U.S.] dollars . . . besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

"As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record, astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars. Even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujaheddin recently forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan."

In the address, bin Laden also imagined the nearly 3,000 victims of the attack on the World Trade Center reflecting during their last moments on their guilty feelings about U.S. foreign policy. "They say, 'How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak,' " bin Laden said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 2:01:25 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [255 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Zarqawi financing disclosed
For the first time, the financing of a major Al Qaida-aligned insurgency group has been traced. Jordanian authorities have succeeded in tracing and capturing a financier of the Tawhid and Jihad group, led by Abu Mussab Al Zarqawi. Officials said a Bedouin tribesman was identified and convicted on charges of fundraising for Al Zarqawi, deemed the most lethal insurgent in Iraq. The financier was identified as Bilal Mansour Hiyari, 34, a resident of the Jordanian city of Salt and confidant of Al Zarqawi, who is also a Jordanian national. On Sunday, Hiyari was convicted of fundraising for a terrorist group and sentenced to six months in prison. Officials said this was the first time that an Al Zarqawi financier has been identified and captured. Over the last year, the United States and other partners in the military coalition in Iraq have sought to locate Tawhid funding.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 2:12:28 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top|| File under:

#1  actually this only IDs the bagman not the source of the funds (e.g., rich Saudis, Move-on.org, Hamas?)
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 9:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Should this piece of news be taken with a grain of... Salt?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/02/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||


Hundreds flee Fallujah after night of US air strikes
EFL

FALLUJAH, Iraq : Hundreds of people fled the Iraqi rebel-held Fallujah after a heavy night of US air strikes, while an Iraqi cameraman working for Reuters was killed during clashes in the nearby hotspot of Ramadi.

"There are a bunch of cars leaving the city right now, about 400 cars backed up," said US marine gunnery sergeant Brett Turck. "I don't know if it is a mass exodus partiers avoiding the Ramadan rush, or regular traffic flows."

The movement came after the US military unleashed an air raid on the flashpoint city west of Baghdad in what has become a near daily bombardment.

"A US air force plane engaged a pre-planned target using precision ordnance, which destroyed a known enemy cache site on the southeast side of the city secondaries? ," it said in a statement.

A marine official said the mission lasted for about two hours.

Thousands of residents have fled the Sunni Muslim bastion since the US military began a campaign of air strikes during the summer in the hunt for the Islamic militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and his followers who are believed to use the city as an operating base.

A large proportion of the 250,000-strong population is thought to have left already, US military officials say. Some have settled in camps to the west of the city while others have sought shelter in nearby towns or in Baghdad.

Violent clashes flared on Monday in the sister city of Ramadi, to the west of Fallujah, leaving at least six people dead, including a cameraman working for the London-based Reuters news agency Should I put this in the column for Insurgent or civilian deaths? .

Dhia Najim, a 57-year-old freelance video cameraman, was apparently shot dead by a sniper while on assignment for Reuters, one of its reporters in Baghdad said.

It was unclear whether the sniper had been an insurgent or a US soldier. Give him some commendation, whichever side he's on.

The US military is known to have stationed marksmen in Ramadi as it fights to restore order that would indicate one of ours. to the lawless city.

A video camera found on Najim, a father of four, showed pictures of previous attacks on US-led troops, the military added Now we know which side he was on. .

A doctor at Ramadi's hospital on Monday reported that a total of six people had been killed and 15 others wounded in clashes during the day.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 6:45:36 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [248 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I read this story on a news site. They tried to spin is as he was just minding his own business. But him getting wacked was filmed. Now he is a camera man and has birds eye views or attacks with small arms and RGPs on his tape. His getting wacked is also on his tape.

Smells like FISH. He was hanging with the jihadi and got waxed by them or US it doesn't matter which. Hanging withthe jihadi is bad for your health.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  If you are filming attacks on US forces, and you look like the enemy, you get what you deserve. He should have been wearing an orange jumpsuit or something. I agree with sock, haning with the enemy is very bad for your health.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 11/02/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||

#3  I grieve for him...oops - I'm over it. Move on
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Yep, orange jumpsuit, just the ticket.
Posted by: Marine Snipers Everywhere || 11/02/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Back in the day, during a firefight, the senior NCO would call a "Time out!!" during which time us and the bad guys would mingle and exchange IDs to ensure only combatants would be identified. Correspondents, photographers, corpsmen and chaplains would be pointed out so that none of us would be mistakenly targeted. At the end of the day, the SNCO would holler "Allee, allee in free" and we'd all lay down our weapons and have mommie give us cookies and milk and kiss our booboos.


WTF do these guys expect combat to be !!!!!
Posted by: Doc8404 || 11/02/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#6  You're right doc it was great while it lasted.
Posted by: E Pyle || 11/02/2004 12:13 Comments || Top||

#7  They better keep running for all I am concerned any more. There will be nothing left to come back to were I behind the trigger now.

I will be out the rest of the day and probably tomorrow to help out a Marine. He's one of "my kids" that I helped in youth group (as a drill intructor then later as a Big Brother). He is coming home from Al Anbar province in Iraq. He was one of the best and brightests kids I have ever known, someone who made the world a better place.

His funeral is tomorrow.

I know I shouldnt post when I'm this messed up. But,

KILL EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THOSE MONSTERS!

DROP THE DAMNED BOMBS UNTIL THE RUBBLE BOUNCES. THEN SALT THE GROUND. THEY DESERVE NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#8  OS, would you send me an email? Thanks.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Muammar coughs up Saifi
One of the wealthiest and most powerful armed Islamists in north Africa, Amar Saifi, was yesterday behind bars in his home country of Algeria following the intervention of Libya's Muammar Gadafy. Saifi was the number two in Algeria's main violent Islamist organisation, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), and responsible for the kidnapping of 32 foreign tourists in the Sahara desert last year. His group had pledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and he ran, in effect, a private army that roamed across the desert frontiers of several north African states.

Mr Gadafy received praise from Washington for handing over Saifi to the Algerian government. "This continues to show Libya's reintegration into world society and coming down on the side of law and order and the war on terrorism," a senior US military official told Reuters at the weekend. Saifi was reported to have been captured several months ago by a rebel, non-Islamist group from Chad, and it was unclear how he turned up in Libya last week. Press reports around the region have speculated either that Mr Gadafy threatened the Chad group with air attacks, or that he paid it for Saifi. Last year Saifi was reported to have extracted €5m (£3.5m) from the German government in return for the release of 32 tourists kidnapped while on adventure holidays in the Algerian Sahara. A German woman died of heatstroke in captivity and German authorities had put out an international search warrant for Saifi.
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Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/02/2004 2:17:43 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [279 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
On the wing of an Apache
Apache drivers with real big brass ones
For two Apache Longbow pilots, the night of Oct. 16 was just a regular night flying a reconnaissance mission around southern Baghdad. A distorted cry for help came across the emergency radio shattering the chatter of all other communications. They recognized the call sign, they recognized the area and a few minutes later, they were in route to perform what would become a heroic rescue. "I really couldn't make out at first what was going on. The transmission over the radio was broken up and weak, but I could make out that it was a distress call," said Lodi, Calif., native Chief Warrant Officer Justin Taylor, an Apache pilot, with Company C, 1st Battalion 227th Aviation Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team.

At first, the transmission seemed as though it might be coming from an U.S. Marine Corps aircraft. The call sign speaking to the downed aircraft was of Marine Corps designation Taylor said. He radioed to Marine Corps headquarters asking if any aircraft of theirs was down in the area, to which the response came back negative. Then a call sign familiar to Taylor and Capt. Ryan Welch, the air mission commander, came across the guard, or emergency channel. "We're in zone 43
." came the weak transmission

"I recognized the area and immediately made the decision that we were going to break from our sector and go over to the area," said Lebanon, N.H. native Welch. "Those were our guys on the ground and we had to help. My first thought was we would provide aerial security." As the team changed flight paths they notified the USMC aircraft of their intention as well as calling back to 4th BCT headquarters to alert them to their movement. When they arrived on station they began trying to contact the pilots on the ground.
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Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/02/2004 9:03:45 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Big Brass Ones is right! Good work!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Let me say thank you in the name of those boys' mothers. This is what makes our armed forces great -- the cool toys just make them more efficient at it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#3  I will be out the rest of the day and probably tomorrow to help out a Marine. He's one of "my kids" that I helped in youth group (as a drill intructor then later as a Big Brother). He is coming home from Al Anbar province in Iraq. He was one of the best and brightests kids I have ever known, someone who made the world a better place.

His funeral is tomorrow.

I know I shouldnt post when I'm this messed up. But,

KILL EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THOSE MONSTERS!

DROP THE DAMNED BOMBS UNTIL THE RUBBLE BOUNCES. THEN SALT THE GROUND. THEY DESERVE NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Bless you, OS, and your kids. We shall never forget. We shall prevail.

Vengeance is mine; I shall repay.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Philippines Travel Alert Issued by U.S. Over Terrorism Threat
Nov. 2 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. government issued a travel alert for its citizens in the Philippines, saying the terrorist threat in the country ``remains high.''

The U.S. ``continues to receive information that there may be future bombings in the Philippines, including against airports, commercial shipping, passenger vessels and seaports,'' the State Department said in an e-mailed statement.

Jemaah Islamiyah, an al-Qaeda-linked terrorist group operating in Southeast Asia, and other organizations have demonstrated the capability of attacking targets where westerners gather, the U.S. statement said.

Members of Jemaah Islamiyah are being trained at bases of Muslim rebels in the southern Philippines, including the island of Mindanao, according to the Brussels-based International Crisis Group, which issues reports on terrorism in the region.

The authorities in the Philippines last month arrested two men who may have been involved in a plot to bomb the U.S. embassy in the capital, Manila, Deutsche Presse-Agentur reported at the time, citing Colonel Daniel Lucero, a military spokesman.

The suspects said they received bomb-making training from Jemaah Islamiyah instructors in Mindanao, the report said.

Military operations are being carried out by the army in the southern Philippines against the Abu Sayyaf Group, which has taken U.S. nationals hostage in the past, and the New People's Army, the military arm of the Communist Party of the Philippines, the State Department said.

Philippine President Gloria Arroyo said last month the communist rebels have ``growing links'' to international terrorist organizations. The army needs to change its strategy to combat the 30-year communist insurgency, she said.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 2:10:06 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Gunmen Seize American, 5 Others in Iraq
FOX reports two of the Iraqi nationals these terrorists took hostage have been released.
Gunmen stormed the compound of a Saudi company in a fashionable Baghdad neighborhood Monday, seizing an American, a Nepalese and four Iraqis after a gunbattle in which a guard and one of the assailants were killed, police said. The American, who was not identified, was the 12th U.S. citizen reported kidnapped or missing in Iraq. He was grabbed about 500 yards from the house where two Americans and a Briton were kidnapped last month. All three were beheaded. The dramatic abduction occurred two days after the decapitated body of Japanese backpacker Shosei Koda was found in western Baghdad. The al-Qaida-affiliated movement of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi claimed responsibility for his kidnapping.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 2:08:14 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [259 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Israel: Carmel Attack Mastermind Apprehended
IDF troops during the night apprehended Ahmed Arda, responsible for yesterday's suicide bombing attack in Tel Aviv which murdered three and left over thirty wounded. Hundash Bassel, who used his student identity card to pass checkpoints, was also taken into custody in connection to the attack. During the night, forces destroyed the Shechem area home of the 16-year-old suicide bomber Amar el-Faar, as well as the Beit Fouriq home of Hashem Hannani, a senior PFLP commander. The home of Hashem Kabi, another planner of the attack, was also destroyed.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:59:47 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [250 views] Top|| File under:


44 Terror Alerts this Morning In Israel
Security officials report there are 44 terror alerts this morning, the same number as yesterday. Following yesterday's suicide bombing attack in Tel Aviv, officials confirmed the number of security alerts but added there were no specific intelligence reports that indicated a suicide bombing attack was planned in Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:57:23 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [246 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel. Great place to live would'nt you say?
Posted by: Sir Fizzle of Arabia || 11/02/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
World conflict 'has already begun'

THE world had already entered the next global conflict, but one very different to the world wars of the past, the second International Policing Conference was told here today.

Retired US Army colonel John Alexander also said he disagreed with his Commander in Chief, US President George W Bush's assessment that the world was a safer place because of the US led war on terrorism.

"We're used to war, nation state on nation state," Dr Alexander said.

"But now we have non-state actors that approach the power of nation states.

"The concept of what is now known as the super-empowered individual, a person like (Osama) bin Laden and the influence that he can wield around the world."

Dr Alexander, now a world expert on the use of non-lethal weapons and an adviser to the Commander of the US Special Operations Command, said the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001, was a defining moment in the history of the United States and the world.

He said terrorism had already come to the US mainland but never with such devastation and loss of life.

That attacks served to wake the "sleeping giant" just as the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbour had done during World War II.

But, he said, he did not agree that the world was a safer place now following the US-led response.

"I must humbly disagree with my commander in chief because I do not believe the world is a safer place today than it was a few years ago," Dr Alexander said.

"Rather we have entered a dark, dangerous and foreboding path, one from which the outcome is unclear.

"But this is not just America's struggle, terrorists have struck at nearly every corner of the world and several attacks have targeted Australians specifically.

"It is the free people of the world and many nations who must now respond and say, never again."
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:47:20 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [394 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If you want a year it started in try 1979 when the Ayatolah Cockamamie got of the airplane in Tehran
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/02/2004 7:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Indeed.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||

#3  How about Sirhan Sirhan and Bobby Kennedy?
Posted by: flash91 || 11/02/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#4  flash91 has it right.

Sirhan said he did it because of Israel. The PC MSM (yes, even in those days) covered it up now and has ever since.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/02/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#5  With all due respect to Dr. Alexander, but if this article is truly indicative of the analysis going on in our intel communities, perhaps we are in big trouble.

First, Al Qaeda does not have the power of a nation-state. Not even close. It's an incredibly stupid thing to say. That's why they need the Afghanistans and Irans of the world.

Second, the entire "world isn't a safer place today" mantra is absurd. Sheer sophistry. The world wasn't safer in 1944 than in 1938 if one looks at the casualty rolls, but we were definitely better off because we were finally driving a dagger through the heart of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Ditto for the current conflict.

Perhaps Dr. Alexander's comments are taken out of context.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/02/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#6  '73 - when we saved Israel via an airlift of materiel (to counter the same move by the Soviets) and the Saudis declared war with the oil embargo.
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#7  Right, .com---The IDF was down to 2 days or so worth of materiel and we had to do something or they would be sunk. Yom Kippur War, IIRC. The Egyptians attacked on Yom Kippur and caught the Israelis off guard.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/02/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#8  Nice take Dreadnaught. Until this war moves forward to victory over the evil jihad. Then its battle stations.
I have a joke. When is a jihadie a good jihadie?

When he's dead! Get it? I dream dead jihadies.
Posted by: Lucky || 11/02/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Don't let the jihhadis wear on ya Lucky. I dream of Martha Stewart in the slammer shower.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#10  AP, it was more than just an airlift. Nixon put us at DEFCON 3 and stared the Arabs' Russian allies down. The 72nd provisional Strat Wing consisted of 186 B-52Gs at Andersen AFB on Guam. Within 24 hours of going to DEFCON 3 everyone of the BUFFs that was flyable was either in the States on nuke alert or enroute to the states. Squadrons of A4s lifted off the decks of carriers in the Med, flew to Israel where their roundels were repainted and Israeli pilots flew them against the invaders. Richard Nixon was the best friend that Israel ever had.
Posted by: RWV || 11/02/2004 18:30 Comments || Top||

#11  mmmm Martha in the prison shower with seasonal accessories.....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#12  Thanks for the history, RWV. I remember being at services that Yom Kippur Day. The rabbi stopped the service, informed us of the situation, and passed out Israel Bond pledge cards. Daddy always bought bonds every year anyway (in lieu of personal service, since he'd settled Stateside in 1958), but that day he pledged an additional $6000 -- for the six members of our family. (Which is probably why I had to pay my own college tuition. The funds could be spent in Israel, but not repatriated therefrom.) I think my parents voted for Nixon the next election, too.

Shipman, Frank, you guys are being mean! Go dream about some flexible bimbo instead.

P.S. If it matters to anyone, my [sweet, old, academic, classical American liberal, living in Buffalo,NY] mother decided to vote Bush instead of Kerry. And Michael Moore makes her sick. I'm not sure if Daddy felt well enough to leave the house to vote.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 21:49 Comments || Top||

#13  As far as the modern jihadic movement strating. It was 1979 with the 'allowed' take over of Iran by ultra-fanatical Shi'ite Muslims taking control of 'Persia & her vast oil reserves

The Shi'ites worthshiped what some saw as the 12th iman, the one who arrives prior to the Mahadi. The Muslim elder cleric was was Ruhollah ibn Mustafa Musawi Khomeini Hindi (meaning the Indian). The name Khomeini was taken from the town where he was born.



Two titles have been used for him, 'Ayatollah', which is the title of a religious leader, but not the highest in Shi'i Islam. This was Khomeini's title at the time of the Iranian revolution, but he soon took the title 'Imam', which is definitely the highest position in Shi'i Islam. Actually this title is so high that this necessitated a a new interpretation of Shi'i theology.

The Ayatollah's radical horde held America hostage for 444 days . Khomeini gained a geostrategic foothold in the Near-East by training & funding Lebanon's arch-terrorist group, Hizballah, currently an 'important' part of the Lebanessse parlement. Today decendants of the ------------------------------------------============================
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 22:18 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Speculation runs wild about Arafat's medical status
CLAMART, France - Yasser Arafat's French physicians are refusing to discuss his health crisis, leading to rampant speculation about the Palestinian leader's dramatic deterioration. One Palestinian official ruled out leukemia, while another said it was not a concern "for the time being." A medical wishing guessing game has ensued, with talk of possible blood disorders, poisoning, a viral infection.
So many possibilities, so little protoplasm ...
Israel's chief of military intelligence, Maj. Gen. Aharon Zeevi-Farkash, did little to clear things up. He told a Cabinet meeting Sunday that Arafat's "situation is between full recovery and death," said an Israeli official who briefed reporters on the meeting.
Thanks for that brief, General, that really narrows it down.
"Arafat's condition is improving," the official quoted Zeevi-Farkash as saying. "The blood transfusions have helped. We don't know if it's viral infection, perhaps mono, or it's leukemia or another cancer." As the ailing 75-year-old Arafat entered his fourth day of emergency treatment at a French military hospital Monday, French doctors maintained their policy of silence. French physicians have refused to comment on the Palestinian leader's health until a diagnosis can be made based on a battery of tests that started immediately after his arrival Friday.
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Posted by: Steve White || 11/02/2004 12:52:46 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [292 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Leukemia is now highly surviveable.
There are now drugs that can even settle "blast stage", giving the patient up to a couple years of fairly normal life.

Here's hoping for something a little more fatal.
Posted by: Dishman || 11/02/2004 2:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Well I have been hoping it's advanced Prostate Cancer. That or Advanced Colorectal cancer.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 3:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Take a look how white (anemic) his hands are:
Posted by: dennisw || 11/02/2004 5:51 Comments || Top||


#5  It is debatable whether a couple of years of life after leukemia treatment can be characterized as fairly normal at Yassir's age. But that'd be good in this case.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 6:53 Comments || Top||

#6  The elephant in the room nobody talks about is AIDS and its opportunistic friends. Arafat's sexual preferences leave open a gaping -- eeeuuuuwwweee! -- door to infection. See the writings of former Romanian KGB chief Ion Pacepa.
Posted by: VRWconspiracy || 11/02/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Here this but too

CAIRO, Nov. 2 (UPI) -- The brother of ailing Palestinian Authority chief Yasser Arafat is suffering from intestinal cancer and being treated in a Cairo hospital.

A Palestinian medical source told UPI that Fathi Arafat, Yasser's younger brother and former president of the Palestinian Red Crescent, was admitted to a hospital recently after his cancer worsened.

The source noted Arafat's sister, Yusra, also died last year from cancer.

The PA leader is currently being treated at a French hospital where he was admitted last week after suffering from severe stomach problems that resulted in a significant weight loss.

Unconfirmed reports said that he might be also suffering from cancer, a theory denied by Palestinian officials.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 9:02 Comments || Top||

#8  How's that accounting of his financial holdings going?
LET'S GO! WHILE WE'RE YOUNG, OKAY??!!
Posted by: Suha Arafat || 11/02/2004 10:40 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm placing my bets on not long for this world. While he may pull through - odds and circumstances don't seem to favor that.

Only time will tell.
Posted by: 2B || 11/02/2004 10:43 Comments || Top||

#10  How soon before some gunny in the PA figures out that Arafat is lying athwart his career path, croaking "Over my dead body?" A little funds transfer to a French doctor, a minor med error, and we have regime change.

Or not. After all, if the French allowed something like that to happen, people would get mad at them.

On the other other hand, the French can be bought, for cheap.

Rest comfortably, Mr. Arafat. You're in good hands. Really. You have Jacques' word on it.
Posted by: Mike || 11/02/2004 11:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Where are all the accusations of Zionist poisoning and death-rays ??
Posted by: Crikey || 11/02/2004 13:59 Comments || Top||

#12  From the diagnostic manual:

"... symptons of Zionist death rays (Zdr) may be confused with other diseases such as cancer, bacteria, virus, hangnail or other similar diseases... oddly, the diagnosis of Zdr is extraordinarily high in a town in the Mideast called Ramallah...people claiming to have Zdr also tend to suffer from Protocols of the Elders of Zion syndrome, ritual murder syndrome and...."
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
US Forces Battle Militants in al-Ramadi
Clashes broke out on 1 November between U.S. forces and militants in the volatile city of Al-Ramadi, located 110 kilometers west of Baghdad, Reuters reported. Witnesses and hospital officials told the news agency that the clashes appeared to be some of the fiercest fighting in weeks, as groups of militants fired rocket-propelled grenades and mortar rounds at U.S. forces. The news agency also reported that Iraqi families could be seen fleeing the city as fighting intensified. At least eight Iraqis were killed and 10 wounded in fighting in Al-Ramadi on 31 October, Al-Arabiyah television reported.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/02/2004 7:52:46 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [257 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq rebels vow to use chemical weapons
AS the US reeled from the death of nine marines in Iraq at the weekend, insurgents in Fallujah claimed to have obtained chemical weapons and threatened to use them in any battle for control of the rebel stronghold. Rebel commanders said chemicals such as cyanide had been added to mortar rounds and missiles that would be deployed against coalition troops reported to be preparing for a major assault on the town west of Baghdad. A military committee made up of former officers in Saddam Hussein's army, including experts on chemicals and guerrilla warfare, is said to have been organising forces in Fallujah and planning tactics. The committee is understood to include members of all the main insurgent groups, including that of Iraq's most wanted man, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader behind the beheading of several foreign hostages and a string of car-bomb attacks...
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/02/2004 10:02:20 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [251 views] Top|| File under:

#1  insurgents in Fallujah claimed to have obtained chemical weapons

Here's hoping for a work accident
Posted by: Rafael || 11/02/2004 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  And all the Marines doned their chem suits as a training exercise last week if I can recall correctly. I think the intel is better than these losers know. hope for a windshift. The "rebels" don't have chemical protection.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Are they still WMDs if only "insurgents" have them?
Here's hoping for that work accident---amen.
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/02/2004 0:55 Comments || Top||

#4  go ahead, use them! you'll just be ordering a MOAB lunch.

Posted by: spiffo || 11/02/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#5  This could be a reason why they wanted the germ lady released from prison.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/02/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#6  CW use by the terrorists in Falloujah will result in large civilian casualties. The Allied forces will be well protected, the Iraqi troops will be kept out of the patterns of exposure. But civilians will not be protected at all and will die in large numbers.

This will be the final blow in the terrorist actions in Iraq, for they will have shown themselves to be mass murderers, guilty of fitna in the worst way and will draw fatwha against them.
Posted by: InTheKnow || 11/02/2004 1:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Zarqawi is a chemical expert. We must use overwhelming force and set the weather conditions right.
Posted by: Capt America || 11/02/2004 1:22 Comments || Top||

#8  Did Zarqawi sends his jihad boys into Syria to bring back some of the 'missing' wmd's?
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Crap on a stick, this is.
Posted by: beer_me || 11/02/2004 3:37 Comments || Top||

#10  It's a bluff, but a nice pretext for us to level the towns.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 8:15 Comments || Top||

#11  Somewhere far off to the east I hear a fat lady singing.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 8:28 Comments || Top||

#12  if they did use such weapons the world would still say that the US was the one who used them? It's about time too stop pussy footing around these bastards and get it over with. kill the hell out of them this time instead of another peace deal.
Posted by: smokeysinse || 11/02/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#13  If they did use such weapons, would the world still say they didn't exist?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#14  *nods* My thought exactly, trailing wife.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/02/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#15  tw and ptah - asumming its cyanide, no, thats a widely available industrial chemical, IIUC. It would have to be something more serious, sarin, VX, etc.

But at least it would reveal, once again, what shits we were dealing with. As if anybody needed reminding. Sadly, some do.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 11/02/2004 14:26 Comments || Top||



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