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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Brits debate "smacking" and why is this even a question?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/02/2004 20:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  % of households without an adult male to impose behavior control during adolescent development and the resultant amount of anti-social and criminal behavior of those adolescents can be expected to be higher than those with an adult male present to render appropriate Pavlovian adjustments. We're not talking real abuse, just the right unemotional application of evolutionary hierarchical behavior modification.
Posted by: Don || 11/02/2004 22:24 Comments || Top||

#2  snacking can be certainly controversial in that many healthologists blame obesity-related health problems on unrestrained snacking between meals, combined with the allure of the plush, double-stuffed couch and remote control and --

what ?

oh, never mind.

Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 11/02/2004 23:08 Comments || Top||


300 children bitten by 'blood sucking' monkeys
Hey, it was over the course of three weeks...
Monkeys lurking at an ancient Hindu temple in India's northeast have attacked up to 300 children over three weeks, temple officials said Tuesday. "They hide in trees and swoop on unsuspecting children loitering about in the temple premises or walking by, clawing them and even sucking a bit of blood," Bani Kumar Sharma, a priest at the Kamakhya temple in Assam state, told The Associated Press. The temple, one of the most famous in India, is located in Gauhati, Assam's capital. "I was returning home from school when a monkey suddenly pounced on me, scratched my head and hand and pushed me to the ground," said Jolly Sharma, a 6-year-old girl.
Cheeze, I hate it when that happens to me...
At least 2,000 rhesus monkeys roam in and around the temple, but none had shown aggressive behavior in the past, the priest said. Monkeys are often found in tens of thousands of temples across India. They are seen as a symbol of Hanuman, the mythical monkey god, and devotees visiting temples often feed them. While occasional attacks by monkeys are not uncommon at temples, the sudden surge in attacks at the Gauhati temple has experts perplexed. Some say the Gauhati monkeys may be turning violent because of shrinking living spaces, or because animals once kept as pets might not have been able to adjust to new lives around the temple. "The loss of habitat due to increased human settlement in the hills around the temple and the release of monkeys kept confined at home ... could be among the reasons for some of the monkeys behaving in a weird manner," said Narayan Mahanta, a wildlife official in Gauhati. Three monkeys were randomly tranquilized by wildlife officials over the weekend and have been taken to the Gauhati Zoo where they will be examined in search of clues to explain the changing behavior, Mahanta said.
Maybe Hanuman is annoyed?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/02/2004 10:17:44 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Blood-sucking monkeys--why do they hate us?
Posted by: Dar || 11/02/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#2  What's MoveOn.org doing in northwest India, anyway?
Posted by: Mike || 11/02/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Rantburg, always out front in documenting Mohammedan terrorism.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 12:16 Comments || Top||

#4  If you substituted moonbats for the monkeys in this article, well... the similarities are remarkable.

Maybe we should snarf up a few of our moonbats and, after thorough investigation, inteviews, analysis, vivisection - the usual routine, we can learn why they are such hate-filled clueless deviants.

Rinse (literally). Repeat as needed. Sigh. I think this will require a lot of moonbats cuz we'll need beaucoup data points to be really, really, really sure. We must be patient - we don't want to prejudge or indulge in hasty conclusions - a sure sign of intellectual indolence. Rigorous. Yes - that should be our touchstone.

Perhaps, afterwards, those few that survive the program can write a learned paper on our findings.
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Letter from Saudi Arabia
Posted by: ed || 11/02/2004 16:58 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very interesting article on Saudi morality (or lack thereof), sex crimes, and camera phones.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 19:46 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Left-wing Uruguay leader welcomed by S American 'comrades'
Latin American leaders have welcomed the election of Tabare Vazquez to the Uruguayan presidency. The victory for his leftist coalition brought two-party rule in Uruguay to an end for the first time in 170 years. Venezuela's left-wing President Hugo Chavez said Mr Vazquez's election heralded a step towards the shaping of a new South America. Cuba said diplomatic ties might be restored after two years of strained relations. A triumphant Mr Vazquez appeared in front of thousands of celebrating supporters in Uruguay's capital, Montevideo, after official results gave him 50.69% of the votes cast.
(Are these election results shades of our own?
Some 30,000 ballots remain to be counted before the Court of Elections could confirm his victory, but his two main rivals have conceded. Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez welcomed victory for the left-winger as "a milestone" in Latin American history.
Oh, just wonderful!
"What has happened in Uruguay is one more step on the road to building a new South America, a new Latin America, a new world that is being born," Mr Chavez said.
"a new world"
Welcome to the Brave New World...
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 2:31:41 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Putin promises not to stand again for reelection
As part of his state visit to Ukraine, Russian president Vladimir Putin gave interviews to several TV channels and answered questions from viewers. His answer to one question concerning reelection was that he would not seek reelection for a third term in office. The Russian president said he felt that "in many of our countries, in any case in Russia, the most important thing is stability. And this stability can only be provided by observing the law. And amongst (those laws) there is one which lies above all others: the constitution. This provides for two periods of office, and I these I will perform." During the interview, no questions were raised about altering the constitution.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/02/2004 6:36:25 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But of course he will accept re-election sitting down for many more terms...
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Impressive if true. But, uh, I wouldn't believe any cherry tree stories about ol' Vlad...
Posted by: someone || 11/02/2004 0:30 Comments || Top||

#3  What's happening about Beslan, Vlad?
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/02/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#4  I worry that Russia doesn't have the means for a decent response.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 9:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Alaska Paul> "What's happening about Beslan, Vlad?"

This been happening.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 11/02/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||


A Foolhardy Naval Exercise
Last week a Russian naval aircraft carrier battle group limped back to port after the biggest and most ambitious naval exercises in the mid-Atlantic ever performed by our Navy... The North Atlantic's high seas badly battered our ships. Several were reported to have taken on water, and by the time the battle group sailed past Norway to its home base off the northern Kola Peninsula, the Kuznetsov was oozing fuel into the sea, leaving an oil slick. The sailors of the Kuznetsov were all first-time conscripts, while the officers and pilots were old hands close to retirement age. Which young and aspiring top gun pilots would want to join an air wing that gets to fly off an aircraft carrier deck once in seven years?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/02/2004 6:59:02 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For some reason I just had a flash of the (rusting and almost sinking) Russian Imperial Fleet sailing around the world only to get blasted at Tushima (sp?) by the Japanese.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 11/02/2004 10:01 Comments || Top||

#2  thats pretty pathetic that they aren't even seaworthy anymore.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/02/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Maybe a wake-up call, perhaps.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/02/2004 13:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Could the Kuznetsov been confused with the "Charles de Gaulle"?
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/02/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
North Korea Opens Web Site to Tout Food Products
North Korea may be better known for its food shortages but on Monday it launched a Web site packed with products ranging from buckwheat noodles and ginseng tea to kimchi spicy cabbage and herbal medicine. "Beautiful fantastic goods in DPRK," says a revolving banner on the Chosun Expo Web Site (www.chosunexpo.com) featuring a young Korean woman in traditional hanbok dress.

South Korean entrepreneur Kim Beom-hun told Reuters the Web site was launched on Monday and was a sign Pyongyang was looking to open up more. The site is in English, Korean and Chinese, although some sections did not appear active yet. "This site was not launched to make a profit," said Kim. "Similarly, you cannot buy anything from chosun.com. Various products are introduced in great details so that if people are interested, they can go to distributors and outlets." His company said the site was one of just a handful run out of North Korea. Most official North Korea-linked sites are hosted outside, typically from Japan where there is a large North Korean community.
Posted by: tipper || 11/02/2004 2:18:58 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Similarly, you cannot buy anything from chosun.com.

Then they should have not sold Sirloin instead of not selling kimchee.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 7:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Coming soon to ACME-NK.com:

The Jungwich-tasty morsels of our beloved soil pressed between 2 layers of our magnificent grasses.
NoKade-an all-natural sports drink that contains essential salt and water to refresh the tireless worker in our Peoples Paradise.
Do-it-yourself tunnel kit-contains 1 shovel.
From our Glorious Leaders movie library,a must-see history of the Capitalist Rabid Running Dog Enemy-of-Mankind America called "Farenheit 911",w/the DVD including commentary by K.I.Jung.
Golf lessons from our own world class golfer Kim Il Jung.
The NK Peoples Dictionary-learn thousands of insults that will leave your enemies speechless w/amazement.
Posted by: Stephen || 11/02/2004 13:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Yum. Bark.
Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/02/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||


Europe
Germany: Truman Show becomes a reality (ick)
REALITY TV phenomenon Big Brother could go on forever in a new version of the show planned in Germany. Instead of candidates living for several weeks inside a compound, German media reports say producers of the show are building a small town, complete with market square, church, shops, workplaces and a small forest. Contestants will be able to live in the town for decades, study or go to work, get married, have families and go about their everyday lives — in fact theoretically stay in their artificial world until they die. The planned format has drawn comparisons with the 1988 Hollywood film The Truman Show starring Jim Carrey, who is unwittingly the subject of a 24-hour television "reality" program. Production firm Endemol confirmed it was planning to launch the new Big Brother version in February or March next year in what the company's general manager for Germany, Borris Brandt, describes as similar to a soap series but "real, with real people".
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 3:38:21 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Italian Army Bans Females for Being 'Too Fat.'
A YOUNG woman volunteer has reportedly been banned from the Italian army for being too fat. The 1.65m tall 21-year-old, identified only by her first name, Francesca, weighs in at 78.5 kilos. She was considered unsuitable for the army as that was "incompatible with the parametres of physical aptitude of military service".
"She's a spicey young-a meat-boll!"
Francesca told an administrative tribunal in the central coastal city of Ancona that she had passed her first army medical, but then put on weight during her first 10 months of training due to the stodgy food served. But her argument did not hold weight with the court, which said that she had failed to lose her surplus kilos during a convalescence period given her by the military to go on a diet. Her lawyer said she was not going to take the matter lightly and would appeal.
The results of the appeal could weigh heavily on the Italian army...
He said that for Francesca, who hails from Catania in Sicily, "the army was her choice of lifestyle and a work opportunity. I don’t think that all the military you come across in Italy have perfect figures." The woman joined the Ascoli Piceno regiment near Anconi in 2001.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:54:10 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Her lawyer said she was not going to take the matter lightly

sigh
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 7:33 Comments || Top||

#2  5'4" and 173 pounds? Is she spherical?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/02/2004 8:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Good for them, wish we could get rid of fat asses who won't lose the weight regardless of gender just as quickly.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/02/2004 9:22 Comments || Top||

#4  (W)here's the Beef
Posted by: dorf || 11/02/2004 9:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Reminds me of a song I heard the polka band play at an Italian-Slovak wedding reception long ago . . .

I don't want her
You can have her
She's too fat for me
Too too fat for me . . .
Posted by: Mike || 11/02/2004 9:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Mike - that's the "Too Fat Polka" by Frank Yankovic. In Cleveland during the 60's there was a TV show on Sunday afternoons called "Polka Varieties" with Paul Wilcox as host and Yankovic was featured (live) many times.

I am so ashamed I remember this stuff. . . .
Posted by: Doc8404 || 11/02/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Don't forget "Larry Walk's Happy Polka Hour" every Sunday on WNIO, and the annual "Penn-Ohio Polka Festival" at the Idora Park ballroom.

There's a radio station in Akron that still has a weekly "Polka Explosion!" show.

Heaven help us!
Posted by: Mike || 11/02/2004 12:42 Comments || Top||

#8  My late father-in-law was a Reading PA area judge, and according to him a good knowledge of Polka was mandatory for an aspiring pol.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#9  {brushwithgreatness}Yeah, well I can trump alla you polka fans. I used to work with Jolly Joe Timmer, Pennsylvania's Polka King!{/brushwithgreatness}

Why do I feel the sudden urge to do The Chicken Dance? Da da da da da da dum, da da da da da da dum, da da da da da da dum, dum dum dum dum.
Posted by: Parabellum || 11/02/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Wal-Mart Workers in British Columbia Want to Unionize
Wal-Mart Stores Inc. workers at seven tire centers in British Columbia applied to join the United Food and Commercial Workers, expanding efforts by Canadian unions to make inroads at the world's largest retailer. The employees work at Wal-Mart Tire & Lube Express departments at stores in Surrey, Terrace, Dawson Creek, Fort St. John, Quesnel, Kamloops and Langford. Between 37 and 40 people applied to join the union, said Andrew Pelletier, a spokesman for Wal-Mart's Canadian unit. Union spokesman Tom Cameron-Fawkes said the figure is ``somewhere between'' 50 and 75. A Wal-Mart tire center typically employs five to 10 people, compared with about 200 people for an entire store, Pelletier said.

The union has said it's targeting Bentonville, Arkansas- based Wal-Mart because it's concerned the company's expansion in Canada will put pressure on local rivals to lower wages. The retailer operates 234 Wal-Mart and six Sam's Club stores across the country, including 24 in British Columbia, where Wal-Mart employs more than 5,000.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 2:11:43 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This could be fun.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 7:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Crack down on them and crack down on them hard ... or publically blame them, their benefits and their wages if the jobs go south. (I mean south figuratively.)
Posted by: Shaiter Thrutle8631 || 11/02/2004 8:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Fire these g*ddamn communists while you still have time.
Posted by: BH || 11/02/2004 10:26 Comments || Top||

#4  I hope they do and Wal-Mart gets kicked in the teeth if they try to pull any crap to stop them. Wal-Mart and their constant pressure on companies to cut costs and prices are part of the problem of decent paying jobs fleeing the US. And for the people who think the're communists, I suggest you try living on the wages that Wal-Mart pays.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/02/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  If you don't like the wages, find another job. You are qualified to do something, right? Your problem isn't with Walmart, it's with the other guy who's willing to work for that wage. If nobody takes the job at that wage, Walmart raises the wage.
Posted by: BH || 11/02/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Cheaderhead's right--after all, these people are hostages and have no options to look elsewhere for work. [/sarcasm]
Posted by: Dar || 11/02/2004 11:07 Comments || Top||

#7  There are facts on both sides of the WalMart story.

Yes, WalMart pays wages that can leave a family at the poverty level. Having no valuable skills those workers have no options. Other workers’ taxes end up subsidizing the working poor.

No, it is not WalMart’s fault. As a company WalMart pays the market rate for unskilled labor. The poor also benefit as WalMart keeps prices low.

The problem is an over abundance of unskilled labor. Illegal immigration is a major source of excess unskilled labor today. Stop illegal immigration and wages for unskilled labor should rise. Then WalMart would pay more.

(Even with no illegal immigration there may be a problem in the long run as automation diminishes the demand for unskilled labor. Eventually even $10 hour checkers and baggers will be more expensive than new robots. And those robots won’t be joining a union anytime soon.)
Posted by: Anonymous5032 || 11/02/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Wal-Mart wages aren't for living on, they are for subsidizing unlivable Social Security payments, or as a 'Mommy job', or for first time workers getting experience. Even McDonalds pays $8-10 these days, and those jobs are going begging. Admittedly things may be different up north, but if the baseline unemployment is higher than in the U.S., those folks have no excuse to ignore a perfectly good first job.

Historical statistics demonstrate that unions love higher salaries, but as a result employers hire fewer people. So the choice is: more people hired at low wages, but off the dole; or, fewer people hired at union wages, but more of their income being absorbed by taxes to support the unemployed. The net effect is about the same amount of money in the pockets of the workers -- but how many people are allowed the dignity of being self-supporting.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
AP calls Floriduh for Bush
President Bush and challenger John Kerry traded big-state victories Tuesday night, then sweated out a tension-packed conclusion to the race between an embattled incumbent and a Democrat who questioned the war the Republican waged in Iraq. It all came down to Ohio. Bush won Florida, the state that went his way four years ago after a 36-day recount and Supreme Court decision. Kerry hung on to the Democratic prize of Pennsylvania, but had precious few places to pick up electoral votes that went Republican in 2000 - Ohio, Nevada, Colorado and New Hampshire.
Posted by: Fred || 11/02/2004 11:58:57 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Republican Wins Edwards' N.C. Senate Seat
Republican Rep. Richard Burr, long an underdog in his race against Clinton aide Erskine Bowles, rode a late torrent of political commercials Tuesday to win the North Carolina Senate seat vacated by John Edwards. The victory gave the Republicans a Senate sweep in the Carolinas. GOP Rep. Jim DeMint won in South Carolina on Tuesday to capture Democrat-held seat there.
Posted by: Fred || 11/02/2004 11:54:11 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


12 percent of Jews who supported Gore switched
The American Jewish Committee, in a tiny sampling of roughly 200 Jewish voters in five battleground states, found roughly 12 to 13 percent of Jews who voted for Al Gore in 2000 switched parties and cast their vote for President George W. Bush on Tuesday.

"From our exit sampling, very strong support for Kerry. But strikingly, a fairly significant number of Jews switching from Gore in 2000 to Bush, somewhere in the order of 12-13%," said David Harris, AJC's executive director, who examined data, which he stressed was not scientific.

Bush won 19% and Gore 80% of the Jewish vote in 2000, according to exit polling. An AJC survey of American Jewish voters in September found 69% would support Kerry and 24% Bush. AJC's Tuesday results suggested slightly stronger gains for Bush in the community.

Harris said that nearly all voters who switched from Gore to Bush "identified either Israel or terrorism (and) 9/11 as the first reason for their decision."

It was not clear if those gains in the Jewish community would be enough to propel Bush to victory.

Overall turnout was extremely high on Tuesday and pundits speculated the large number of new voters would, overall, benefit Kerry. Also, whereas a percentage of Jews in the battleground states are voting for Bush because of his record on Israel or in fighting terrorism, Arab Americans — popular in the same key battleground states — have moved decidedly away from Bush, perhaps canceling out the gains.

Harris was reluctant to give overall tallies of how Jews polled in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin voted.

"Our principle aim was not numbers per say, it was Jewish voter motivation," he said. Larger exit voter surveys will provide that figure, he noted, "but they won't tell us what we want to know, which is why they voted the way they did and why they switched if they did."

While those who voted for Bush cited Israel and the war on terrorism as key motivating factors, the Kerry voter "is usually driven by domestic issues or it's based on personal qualities defined mostly by their dislike of President Bush," Harris said.

The surveys were sent to AJC members in the five battleground states via email. The email urged recipients to forward the survey to other Jews in their state.

AJC also separately polled 370 Russian Jews at precincts in New York and Philadelphia. Harris said the results were the "mirror image in the opposite direction" of the AJC's September poll. At least 75% said they were voting for Bush, citing his Israel stance and his strong leadership in the war on terrorism.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 10:39:14 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


WND: Ex-SECNAV comments on Kerry Personnel File
Middendorf said he cannot comment specifically on any action taken on Kerry, because he is barred, under the 1974 Privacy Act, from discussing personnel matters. However, he enthusiastically vouches for the character of Mark Sullivan, who formed the basis for a story today in the New York Sun by Thomas Lipscomb, the first to report discrepancies in Kerry's discharge record. Sullivan, who served in the secretary of the Navy's office in the Judge Advocate General Corps Reserve between 1975 and 1977, says the "honorable discharge" on the Kerry website appears to be a Carter administration substitute for an original action expunged from Kerry's record, Lipscomb reported. Asked by WorldNetDaily to address Sullivan's findings, Middendorf cited the Privacy Act. "I shouldn't comment other than to say I respect Mark Sullivan as one of the finest Navy officers we had."
Too little, too late. Why bother now?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 2:17:52 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Even if is too late for this election Kerry and the moonbat wing of the Democratic party have to be utterly destroyed. I don't want to live again in anguish over my children being nuked because a Carter-like president allowed the Mullahs or Al-Quaida to get the bomb. There are many people who would vote for the Democratic candidate even if they presented a monkey (ditto for the Republicans). That is why our children will be in danger as long as there is a chance for a Kerry of being selected by the Democrats, that is why we should aspire for the Carters, Kerrys and Michael Moores to become an object of scorn for any Democrat and their future candidates being from the "Truman wing".
Posted by: JFM || 11/02/2004 15:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Didn't the original report include a statement from a guy on the (then) Harvard Admissions Committee that they didn't want to take him because they were concerned he couldn't get admitted to the bar with his less than honorable discharge?

He's certainly not constrained by privacy laws the way the Navy people are.

So why aren't reporters beating a path to his door for more information?

[Don't bother, I know the answer. :-( ]
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/02/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Hopefully if Kerry loses, this will all come out as fellow Dems put a stake through his heart and blame him for keeping them out of power for another four years.
Posted by: RWV || 11/02/2004 18:05 Comments || Top||


Guam Chooses Bush- almost final
Here are the General Election results based on
electronic ballots from from 53 of 53 precincts and
paper ballots from 45 of 53 precincts:

PRESIDENTIAL RACE
• George W. Bush 17,264
• John Kerry 9,540
• Ralph Nader 153
• Campagna Badnarik 53

Source: Guam Election Commission
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 2:23:01 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The better news is that the 2000 results were around 18k Bush and 16k Gore. Landslide anyone?
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#2  just how does this result help W? Any electoral votes? Or just a sign, I hope, of what is to come?
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/02/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#3  It's a straw poll only, Guam residents aren't allowed to vote in US presidential elections. It's of no help but it is at least a bit interesting how far it's swung in Bush's favor since '00. I'm going to continue to take that as an indicator for a few more hours. :)
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 16:10 Comments || Top||


The Rantburgers Predictions
Hye - I'm amazed this isn't already in place and whanged to death, heh.

I predict:
Bush - 300 EV / 53% popular vote
Kerry - 238 EV / 46% popular vote

Senate:
Pubs - 47
Donks - 42
Indi - 1 (pseudo-independent)
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 1:06:10 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  im predict ima vote for nader and itn come true. im predict thisn election not settle today. im predict lizards chainey and skerry doin battle in em courts. im predict teraysa says somthin stoopid.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Bush 300+ EV and +5%
Senate: GOP +3
House: GOP +5 (at least)
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Bush 290 / 52% of popular vote.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#4  .com are you predicting the disappearance of 10 senators? Now that's a bold prophecy.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||

#5  lol ship.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Oops, lol, posted my estimated 'sure bets' instead of final prediction! I've been reading about these damned races so much I'm going blind, heh.

Senate:
Pubs - 55
Donks - 44
Indi(my ass) - 1
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#7  We have two here in CA that wouldn't be missed.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#8  You can have mine, too.
I'll go with 53-46 Bush.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/02/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||

#9  predictions
1. the winner will be someone i have little respect for
2. the winner will be someone whose voice grates on me
3. The winner will be someone whose face im already tired of seeing.
4. The losing party will have a grand opportunity to pick someone better in 2008.
5. A large number of truely obnoxious people will gloat after their man wins.
6. A large number of truely obnoxious people will be very disappointed - but will blame it on their side being too moderate. And on events beyond their candidates control.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 11/02/2004 13:37 Comments || Top||

#10  LH - LOL! Total wimp-out? Or just "prepping" us?
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#11  WTF... I'll predict one of tomorrow's headlines:

"Malibu official: Scene at Streisand mansion 'like Heaven's Gate'; Moore, Carter autopsy results expected shortly"
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/02/2004 13:39 Comments || Top||

#12  Lh - that's the sprirt! Ain't democracy wonderful. Wouldn't have it any other way.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 13:40 Comments || Top||

#13  My completely arbitrary divination:

Posted by: Lux || 11/02/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#14  I believe LH is covering both cheeks of his ass.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/02/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Lux, you should have put IA and either WI or MN in red also. That gets me to 290 for Bush.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 13:43 Comments || Top||

#16  Lux sets the standard...

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Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 14:03 Comments || Top||

#17  I hope it's a blowout, that way we don't have to listen to the constant whining for another four years. I predict Bush – 300, Kerry - 238. Thune in SD, Martinez in FL, and Coors in CO. Daschele will mount a court fight to throw out Military and some prov ballots, but will lose the battle after an appeal. Kerry will claim ‘dirty politics’ caused his loss and will join the Dean/Gore screaming tour for 'Progressive' politics. Theraysa will move back to Africa and declare herself ‘White Queen’ of Tanzania. Edwards will retire to the Cayman Islands and will die in a violent hurricane next year. Michael Moore will launch his 'Election 2004' movie and it will flop both here and Europe. In a strange twist it will win an award at the Cannes. GO BUSH!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/02/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#18  I will predict 1400 posts before tomorrow 8 a.m. with 7% trollage.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 14:06 Comments || Top||

#19  mucky has it. Terayza will say something incredibly stupid no matter what.

Bye bye John.
Posted by: Crikey || 11/02/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#20  Has CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/BBC called the election for Kerry yet? I mean its 11:17 Pacific time......
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/02/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#21  CS - Excellent summation, lol! The White Queen, indeed! Lol!

Ship - C'mon, step up to the plate big boy, heh. Is Lh's duck quacking too loud for you? Or, perhaps I should ask, "So when did you first begin to notice these feelings of inadequacy and doubt?" ;-)
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#22  Prediction: No Presidential race legal challenges.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#23  Has CBS/NBC/ABC/CNN/BBC called the election for Kerry yet? I mean its 11:17 Pacific time......

Close. Their early exit polls have Kerry over 50% in almost all battleground states.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#24  Wow, check out this polling place in Lower Manhattan.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 14:32 Comments || Top||

#25  AzCat - Oh man, where to begin... The "election judge(s)" operating this shithole joke for a polling place (obviously Precinct 38) should be up on electioneering charges. These photos could easily end up in court as evidence against them.

Amazing. Outrageous.
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#26  thatn not fotoshopped?
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 14:38 Comments || Top||

#27  muck - I don't think so they photos are from a friend of an LGF regular. They're most probably legit.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 14:41 Comments || Top||

#28  Rantburg hijacked when i tried to issue comments.
Btw what is happening with Blogs cant access Instapundit, Samizdata etc.

Prediction 52/47 Bush
Posted by: anon || 11/02/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#29  im would think the athorities wuldve been call by now. if that not elecshuneering ima dont what is.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#30  If there are one or two brave Bush supporters in Precinct 38, they could corroborate the photos in court. If this is legit, I hope these people serve time - and are assigned to learn the Constitution and Bill of Rights, by heart. Then fined to Hell and back. Then...
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 14:44 Comments || Top||

#31  anon - I'll bet the internet traffic to the big sites is hitting / blowing away all records, today. Keep trying.
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#32  I live in asshat country (SF Bay Area). I am depressed. Maybe I should be more confident, but the media is a powerful tool and as we all know, they are a tool for Kerry. I think he will edge it out, by hook or by crook. Watch to see Flordida called early again. Watch to see ballott stuffing in SD. I so want to be pleasantly suprised, but I fear I will not be. Hunker down folks. It may be a long four years.
Posted by: remote man || 11/02/2004 14:53 Comments || Top||

#33  Mrs D-I hope you're right, but I have a feeling we will see legal challenges. Had to laugh-last night I heard Kerry being questioned about the potential legal challenges; he said he didn't think there would be a need, and that they have 10,000 lawyers.

Lots of divorces happening post-election in the campaign team? Pre-emptive hiring phase for elderly voters slipping on wet poll pavement? Or just Edwards 10,000 closest friends?
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/02/2004 15:01 Comments || Top||

#34  As a furriner I demand a vote in your election!
Posted by: Rafael for Bush || 11/02/2004 15:30 Comments || Top||

#35  Drudge, et al., release very shaky exit polling data showing Kerry doing very well (up by 20 in PA!) and the Dow is back to a gain of single digits (from at least the 70s earlier). NASDAQ down to +10 (from +25 earlier). Who does Wall Street want?
Posted by: Tibor || 11/02/2004 15:31 Comments || Top||

#36  I think I heard this right-Hannity saying the exit polls favoring Kerry because of high percentage of early voting by females.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/02/2004 15:34 Comments || Top||

#37  Drudge published numbers from Wonkette's site that even Wonkette is warning are way off. The female / male ratio was 59/41 in those polls.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#38  I am with Cyber Sarge, I am looking for a blow out either way. A split nation is not good for our future. There are too many enemies that want to destroy us and we cannot allow ourselves to be destroyed from within.

I can't the site of Kerry, but I think he is going to win the election. I know that makes me unpopular over here but there are way too many check and balances in this country for any one person to bring this country down. Power to the people!!!! BTW, if Bush looses, it will be his que to flatten the Sunni triangle. Destroy everyone of those bastards.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 11/02/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#39  Folks: BUCK UP. The only way Kerry can win is if-- and note, this a necessary but not sufficient condition-- his turnout machine is superior to Rove's. Seriously, what are the chances of that?

Think about it: if you had to put a large chunk of your portfolio on one of two corporations, one of which has a tired product but a twenty-year track record of delivering superior results in its target market, and the other of which has a new product and a flashy new brand campaign but a spotty record at best when it comes to generating sales in its notoriously fickle and flaky core market, whwere would you put your money?

The Dems always talk big when it comes to "vastly increasing turnout" in the afr-american community, but it rarely happens. Never in presidential elections. I'll bet on Rove and his 4 million evangelicals, thanks.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 15:47 Comments || Top||

#40  In Aust, media is predicting very tight race. Bush approval rating only 47% going in. Howard just won by a landslide here, and he supports Bush (thanks to that annoying teresa woman interfering right before our election: whatta way to win friends and influence folks!)

I predict Bush but a recount in a marginal electorate to decide.

I want a landslide for Bush but judging by what I've been hearing that aint gonna happen.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#41  You've hurt me feelings .com!

Okay... Bush 50 Kerry 49 Other 1
Kerry takes, Florida, Ohio, Minnesota and Wisconsin and the Presidency.

Senate 54 Republican 46 Donk (Fuck Jeffords he's a Donk)

Republicans gain 12 seats in the house.

Idiot turnout in Tallahasee is off the wall. :(
I am a pessimist by nature tho. I am seeking out auto bartender.

Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#42  here shipman mebbe thisn cheer you up
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 16:47 Comments || Top||

#43  I will stick with my original prediction from a week ago about the presidential election.

Popular Vote:
Bush 52%
Kerry 47%
Other 1%

Electoral Vote:
Bush 322 (maybe 326)
Kerry 216 (maybe 212)
Posted by: Chemist || 11/02/2004 16:57 Comments || Top||

#44  "You've hurt me feelings .com!"

Finally! Double-heh. Shot that f**kin' duck, huh? Bet the dawgs liked getting out, lol!
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 17:09 Comments || Top||

#45  muck4doo, that's quite a belly on that happy Blue Camper of yours... Al-Gore silhouette, perhaps?
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 17:12 Comments || Top||

#46  Bar's open, Shipman... getcher ass over there.
Posted by: AutoBartender || 11/02/2004 17:35 Comments || Top||

#47  LOL .com! and M4D is that like the hard core of America?

I am by nature a hedger in these matters, the numbers I used are what I wagered on. I win financially or morally. I prefer morally.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 17:42 Comments || Top||

#48  I will note that the student and African-American precincts (in TLH) have now gone flat, while the suburban precincts are holding medium-heavy/steady.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 17:47 Comments || Top||

#49  Okay, triple post... it's the grain... Mucky I can't see why West Va is so attractive. It's kinda seamy.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 17:49 Comments || Top||

#50  lmao ship!
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#51  hit em autobartend some more and itn get beter lookin. :)

zogby is have skerry winin the electral colege and chainey the popular vote. ima figure numbers even out later as workin peples are probly vote later than the jobless.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 17:57 Comments || Top||

#52  I am by nature unable to even speculate this type of thing, I'd be all upset all night that I'd be wrong, that RBrs would think badly of me. Prefering to wait and see. Then ponder what were the root causes. Thats the safe thing,
prudent.

Whatum didum sign sayum? "War is fear"
Posted by: Lucky || 11/02/2004 18:09 Comments || Top||

#53  "The electoral college: why does it hate us?"
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 18:31 Comments || Top||

#54  The electoral college? Is that one of the Seven Twisted Sisters?
Posted by: Eleanor R || 11/02/2004 19:09 Comments || Top||

#55  Em - caught you double-dipping at Bill Quick's :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 19:16 Comments || Top||

#56  For those with a strong stomach, I've posted my predictions on WHAT IF KERRY WINS?
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/02/2004 19:17 Comments || Top||

#57  Dave D - "There will be no wars of conquest and subjugation, either..."

Quibble: CHINA
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 19:22 Comments || Top||

#58  I don't understand your quibble; I was referring to our wars, not any that China might undertake.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/02/2004 19:32 Comments || Top||

#59  Oops - sorry, I misunderstoodimated! :-)
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#60  so far ga wv ky and in for chainey and vt for skerry.
from here.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 19:49 Comments || Top||

#61  Anybody watching the MegaPundit returns page? Check out FL...
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

#62  hehe. beat you to it .com :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||

#63  S'okay - It's me 'n you, Mucky. Sorry 'bout the chainey thing - it's a package deal, bro. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||

#64  Oops - crosstalk. That you did, bro!
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 19:55 Comments || Top||

#65  Good post, Dave. I linked to it in a post at my blog.
Posted by: Ptah || 11/02/2004 19:58 Comments || Top||

#66  Dave D. good write up and I can't quibble with any points you make. We are staring Carter #2 in the face. Hell, Kerry could make Carter look good and he certainly faces a far more difficult world than Carter did.

The only positive thing that I could see happening is that if the dominoes start to fall as you predict then Kerry will be impeached and the asshats on the left totally discredited. I mean totally. The fuckwhits in the news media will also be covered with the eggs that they have laid. It might be a time that the real America takes back the reigns of power with a decisiveness that is difficult to imagine. (Seriously, imagine what the US reaction would be if Iran nuked Israel, or the Norks did something drastic. If Kerry does nothing in the face of such an atrocity then well more than half this country would storm Washington and hang the MF'er.
Posted by: remote man || 11/02/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||

#67  whoa! now itn have kerry ahead. oh and fl the keys tho.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 20:01 Comments || Top||

#68  lizard peples nedum stay calm, mucky
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 20:07 Comments || Top||

#69  we're liveblogging in the o-club
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 20:10 Comments || Top||

#70  YOU may be liveblogging-- I'm just laying under the table, drunk outta my mind.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/02/2004 20:13 Comments || Top||

#71  whatn an o club? isn that what you use to make em o face?
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 20:15 Comments || Top||

#72  goddamer! megapundit isa went down! >:(
time go watch tv. have fun yalls.
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/02/2004 20:17 Comments || Top||

#73  rantburg.com/bb.asp
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 20:23 Comments || Top||

#74  KERRY: WHY DOES HE HATE ELEPHANTS?
Posted by: Chris W. || 11/02/2004 20:36 Comments || Top||


Kerry pollster predicts Bush win
Taking all that and more into account, an expert forecasting model suggests that Bush will get 51.6 percent of the two-party vote.

What's that I hear? It sounds an awful lot like a fat lady singing.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 11:49:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It sounds an awful lot like a fat lady singing.

Could also be an attempt to whip up Kerry voters and induce complacency in Bush voters.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe but I'm more inclined to think that this guy wants to remain employable by turing out an accurate prediction at the end. Of course I may be a bit biased ....
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 13:23 Comments || Top||

#3  GOTV
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 13:26 Comments || Top||


Drudge: VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY BEFORE POLLS OPEN
XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX TUE NOV 02, 2004 09:06:35 ET XXXXX

VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY BEFORE POLLS OPEN

Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city.

One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8.

Pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500...

A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day.

ANOTHER INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa..

ANOTHER: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa...

MORE...

The Kerry Campaign says reports of votes already on machines is 'false.'
"No, no! Certainly not!"
Elsewhere, a gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and quickly surrounded the location...

Developing...
Posted by: Fred || 11/02/2004 11:31:40 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Interesting that the Kerry Campaign would have a position on this so quickly.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 11:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Fmr Mayor John Street, on Fox, said he had personally investigated these claims and they were all false. Given Street's shady past and lies he's told in the past, you can rest assured theey got caught with their hands in the till.
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 12:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Street says the reports are false? Damn! The Kerrorists have probably massacred the local Repubs and set up their own caliphate by now.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  The last thing the mayor wants is an investigation into who has been pre-loading the machines and for how long. He could lose his pension.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 12:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Fascinating, to me, is the fact that nowhere does the story (or anyone, for that matter) say who the votes were for, lol!

Rather remarkable, wouldn't you say, that no one even gives a thought, including the Skeery people, that such vote-rigging would be for Republicans?

ROFL!!!

Hmmm... The Dhimmigogues are doing all the barking, so...
Posted by: .com || 11/02/2004 12:30 Comments || Top||

#6  I thought Street is the current mayor?
Any "cheesesteaks" that can clarify for me?
Posted by: Capsu78 || 11/02/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Dave D should know
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

#8  The Ghost of Rizzo strikes...
Posted by: mojo || 11/02/2004 12:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Street is the current mayor.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 12:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Mojo,

On the other hand, Frank Rizzo did vote today.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 11/02/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#11  "Dave D should know"

Yep. John Street is Philadelphia's current mayor. God, I'm so proud of Philly-- is this a great town, or what?...
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/02/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#12  Yes Dave, Despite John Street and the overwhelming Dem support, Philly is a great town. Not that I actually live in it though, I bought my house in Lansdowne instead. Close enough to the city to go out to dinner or see a show without having to pay wage taxes for working or living. (Work in Bala Cynwyd)

I'd say go Eagles but I'm actually a Giants fan. (Boo, hiss...)
Posted by: Kelvin Zero || 11/02/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#13  The Post-Gazette has a story that states these machines have an odometer-like counter that records the number of votes the machine has recorded during its service lifetime. This apparently is like a car's odometer, as opposed to a counter that can be reset for each election, not unlike a car's trip odometer. It will be interesting to see if this pans out to be a non-story.

KZ -- Go Steelers!
Posted by: Dar || 11/02/2004 16:00 Comments || Top||

#14  These guys should have called the Daly brothers and imported some experts in voting machine tampering. In Chicago it's an art form.
Posted by: RWV || 11/02/2004 17:53 Comments || Top||

#15  I voted very early in the morning, and noted that my machine had recorded 3 votes, which sounded reasonable given we had about 5 machines there.

I think it depends on the manufacturer, but it would be a bonus to have the machine keep track of BOTH number of votes it recorded over its lifetime, AND prominently display how many votes it had recorded THAT DAY. Thus, if a Repub was in early and noted that the numbers were not in the 10s, but in the 100s, I think some shouting would be in order...
Posted by: Ptah || 11/02/2004 18:52 Comments || Top||


Ohio: New-Voter Challenges ok after all (23,000+ in play)
Ruling early this morning, a divided federal court of appeals handed Republicans a potentially significant election day legal victory in this fiercely contested state, clearing the way for the party to challenge thousands of newly registered voters. The decision by the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals could affect at least 23,000 newly registered Ohio residents whose qualifications Republicans have sought to challenge.

The ruling upheld Ohio's law on voter challenges. It came less than six hours before the 6:30 a.m. scheduled opening of polls here and capped nearly 24 hours of frenzied litigation that had left election officials uncertain of how they would proceed. "The ball keeps bouncing up and down. We'll do the best we can," said John M. Williams, director of the board of elections in Hamilton County, Ohio's third-most populous county.

Republican Party officials have recruited about 3,500 challengers, many of them lawyers, to go to polling places around the state and question the validity of new voter registrations, particularly in heavily Democratic regions. The Republicans allege that many of the new registrations are fraudulent, saying that names such as Mary Poppins and Dick Tracy appear on the registration lists. Democratic leaders deny that any systematic fraud has taken place.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 5:29:27 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The polls are unreliable. So is the Dem claim that their new sign-ups will tip the balance oto Kerry. In fact, the Dems traditionally fall on their faces when it comes to turning out the vote. For twenty years we've been hearing that this is truly the big year for Democratic registration and turnout efforts. And yet, every election season, the Republican effort among white evangelicals bests the Dem effort among african-americans, often by as much as 2 to 1.

Despite the MSM's BS about the deep hatred of Bush that lurks in the heart of every American who's not a gun-toting fundamentalist, Republicans since 1980 have been far better organized than Dems and this organizational advantage shows up especially in national elections. It's a very tall hill that the Dems' turnout specialists have to climb.

Ah, my pro-Kerry friends say, this year's different! It's all about BUSH! People really hate him!

Perhaps, but do the numbers add up? We're told that there have been an additional 10 million new registrations this year as compared to 2000.
Now, the target demographic groups for new registrations and increased turnout are, for Dems, 1) african-americans, 2) kids (under 25), and 3) hispanics. For Repubs, the target groups are fundamentalists for the most part and to a lesser extent, certain hispanics disposed favorably toward Republicans (cubans) or the Bush family (variety of hispanics in FL and TX). Rove expects to turn out an additional 3+ million fundamentalists. Perhaps they'll turn out as much as a million or more from other demographics. So assume that 3.5-4 million of the 10 million are solidly pro-Bush.

How many of the remainder will be pro-Kerry? By my calculations, not more than 65-70%, which means best case 4 million for Kerry, leaving an additional 1.5-2 million for Bush (the balance go to Nader).

African-american support for Bush this year will be between 12-19%, as opposed to only 9% in 2000. So assume 85% of the african-american new registrants go for Kerry. Now, it's very unlikely that more than 60% of the newly-registered kids and hispanics will vote for Kerry. Kids today are probably the most pro-war age demographic, and hispanics remain the great mystery group. Neither party has figured them out. So all in all, perhaps 65-70% of the 6 million or so Dem registrants go for Kerry and nearly all the remainder go to Bush. In sum, Bush gets 3.5 + 1.5 = at least 5 million of the 10 million new registrants.

So, as in the 1980s and 1990s, we can expect the Republicans yet again to derive at least as much if not more benefit than the Dems from increased turnout.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Assuming the independent vote will be split 50/50, the election will turn on which candidate can draw more defections from the other side's registered voters. The best indicator of this is the % of each party's registereds who "strongly support" their guy. For Bush, it's 90% of repubs. For Kerry, it's only 70%. In other words, only 10% of registered, solid Repubs are poachable by Kerry but 30% of registered Dems are poachable by Bush.

These split-ticket voters will determine the margin of victory. Game over. Bush by at 5 points in the popular vote.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 12:16 Comments || Top||


Kerry voted for Bush before voting against him
ScrappleFace is really funny today!
(2004-11-02) -- Democrat presidential contender John Forbes Kerry today voted to re-elect George W. Bush, but then requested a new ballot and voted for himself for president.

"I actually did vote for George W. Bush, before I voted against him," said Mr. Kerry. "After I punched my ballot, I remembered that the 'W' stands for 'wrong'. I told the election official at the precinct that I had spoiled my ballot, and she gave me a new one."

Asked if other Americans should vote for him, Mr. Kerry said, "I believe in voting for John Forbes Kerry, but I can't take what is an article faith for me and impose it on people who don't share that faith."
Posted by: Steve from Relto || 11/02/2004 9:08:35 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Judge restricts Republicans in Daschle Lawsuit
Live blog EFL'd to bottom line. No media coverage I could find.

The judge has issued an order restricting Republicans from recording license plate numbers of people leaving the polls in Charles Mix County. Well, this is a kick in the pants for the Democrats, who wanted the judge to force the Republican Party to completely re-deploy all its poll watchers. They had no substantive evidence, they relied on a Howard Dean operative who has been here for a day as the basis for their case, they looked desperate, they didn't get the relief they wanted, the entire GOP poll watching system is still in place, and more questions have been raised about why Democrats are so paranoid about people "ostentatiously taking notes."

UPDATE: What they're saying Down Under, via Tim Blair: "Tom Daschle has taken his Republican opponent to court over the intimidation of Indian voters via aggressive eye-rolling."
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 7:27:31 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Judge restricts Republicans in Daschle Lawsuit
Uh, no he didn't.

He said Republican poll-watchers couldn't write down the license numbers of vans leaving one polling station after the occupants had voted.

Not exactly what Dash-hole was asking for. Guess he had to throw his best buddy a bone of some kind.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/02/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||


Observing the third world democracy of the US
TURKISH PARLIAMENTARIANS TO OBSERVE US ELECTIONS
After a long history of itself sending observers to elections in third world countries, this year the United States has accepted foreign observers for today's hotly contended presidential elections. Under the umbrella of the Organization for Security and Cooperation for Europe (OSCE), a delegation of some 60 parliamentarians from various countries will act as observers at polling places across the US. Representing Turkey in the delegation are Nevzat Yalcintas and Alaaddin Buyukkaya from the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) and Haluk Kepenek from the opposition Republican People's Party (CHP). The AKP deputies are expected to serve in Washington, DC, with Kepenek observing in Florida, the scene of legal disputes and balloting chaos four years ago. Yalcintas told reporters that the US administration had not been willing, but that the OSCE had urged them to accept the observers.
Glad to help you guys becomming a democracy hehehe. :)
Pay attention. You might learn something.
This Bush guy did not only get you bankrupt, he also flushed your democracy to 3rd world standards, keep the good work going!
Posted by: Murat || 11/02/2004 6:05:16 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yep, Bush sure did drag us down to 3rd world standards ... by allowing the observers to cross our borders in the first place. Shameful.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 6:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Murat has a point. Not that OSCE will somehow make the election fairer. That's just a silly contention. The point is that there will be widespread fraud in this election and at best that will be embarassing and at worst will allow someone to steal what is the most important election of my lifetime. You guys really have to get your identity and immigration policies sorted out. Disclaimer - I'm not a US citizen.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/02/2004 6:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Ooh look, it's the Lesser-spotted Turkish Moonbat!
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/02/2004 6:49 Comments || Top||

#4  There has alway been and always will be wide spread fraud in voting, except in Canada where everybody is perfect and PC. It's part of democracy for mortals, like crooked politicians.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 6:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Boy I can't stand idiots, Murat your the biggest idiot of them all.
Posted by: djohn66 || 11/02/2004 7:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey, what stinks around here? Oh ... the 'rat is back.
Posted by: docob || 11/02/2004 7:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Gee, maybe they should check out the polls in Chicago. The joke about vote early and vote often has it roots in truth.

But I really do feel that the voting process in this country should be reformed. We need a stndardized system of voting that is used in all polling places. Additionally one should be required to present proof of identification at the polls and your ID should be checked off against a national voters registration system. Would this prevent fraud? No, but it would reduce it IMO. How much would it cost to implement? Probably not that much.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/02/2004 7:40 Comments || Top||

#8  But I really do feel that the voting process in this country should be reformed.

The federal government needs to make mandatory the production of proof of citizenship and proof of identity as a prerequisite to vote in federal elections.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#9  The federal government needs to stay the hell out of elections and leave it to the states.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 7:54 Comments || Top||

#10  Cheddarhead - make it so.
Murat - Go Fu*k yourself. I cut off your head and see how you like it then scumbag.
Posted by: Three Monkies || 11/02/2004 7:57 Comments || Top||

#11  Monkey talk bwahahaa

I think Bush went to Iraq to steal Saddams elections formula :-D
Posted by: Murat || 11/02/2004 8:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Snicker today, 'Rat, then it's four more years of Bush. And payback is hell.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 8:19 Comments || Top||

#13  Sorry Mrs. Davis but if the states want to screw up their own elections and allow rampant fraud that's fine and many have chosen to do just that for decades. It's time for the federal government to take responsibility for its own elections.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 8:28 Comments || Top||

#14  Don't count too much on that lame duck Tom, lawyers won't save him this time, we observe you.
Posted by: Murat || 11/02/2004 8:29 Comments || Top||

#15  Little Rat - Where is your moustache today? You're sounding too much like a typical dummycrat rather than the fez wearing clown with a whip that you normally are.
Bye bye - got to go out and vote your little ass to hell now.
Posted by: Three Monkies || 11/02/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#16  Murat! Welcome back my friend. Glad that Turkey could spare some people to help us with our little experiment with this thing called Democracy. Hopefully (one day) our country will become a shining beacon of hope to the worlds oppressed. Oh and by the way ‘Observers’ have been coming to U.S. for election for quite a while. You see they come here to see how it’s down right. When we recently threw our unloved Governor Davis from office, un observers were on hand to witness the recall election. Having un Observers is not the same as having a un Monitor. The un Observers have no authority to challenge a vote or stop a ballot from being cast. No they are there to take notes and keep quiet. That way when they go to say Venezuela they can see how screwed up that election was and then report the opposite to the un overlords. GO BUSH! 40 STATES!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/02/2004 8:30 Comments || Top||

#17  Az cat, I have no reason to believe there would be less corruption with federal responsibility for elections. If anything I suspect more. The closer government is to the people, the easier it is for the people to keep an eye on it. One factor in the decline of public education is the migration of power from local schol boards to the federal government. Why wouldn't this be true if the federal government took over elections?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 8:33 Comments || Top||

#18  muRAT - your are such an idiot. These are observers of the election and nothing more. And this is not the first time. But it is a first to have observers from such a backwards stinking cesspole of country as yours. And you cannot denie that the cities of Turkey do not stink, your sanitary system is in many parts worst than most thirdworld...which is probably why the Euros do not want Turkey in the Union. Really cannot see Bush in his second term pushing for turkey joining, which is one of the main reasons negiotations have progressed so far.
Posted by: Dan || 11/02/2004 8:54 Comments || Top||

#19  Any Armenians coming over to watch, Murat?
Oh, that's right. They're all dead.
Another example of Turkish democracy in action.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/02/2004 8:54 Comments || Top||

#20  Notice how these experts had no problem with the electorial process in America in 1996 when Mr. Clinton was reelected with the rules and procedures then. How those who rejoiced in 1996 then were the ones who wanted to change those same rules and procedures in 2000 when it looked like their favorite wasn't going to win and now want to prejudge the system based upon the fear that their boy won't pull it in again.
Posted by: Don || 11/02/2004 9:03 Comments || Top||

#21  Murat, it was the depraved Europhiles of the American fifth column, the conventionally designated "left", who created this mess by opposing any and all measures against fraud, especially those designed to verify citizenship and eligibility. The Democratic party defines a simple warning against fraud as "intimidation"; admitting, for any practical purpose, that the suppression of fraud is equivalent to the suppression of Democratic votes.
All this was done in the holy name of inclusiveness and enfranchisement, by the same left-wing welfare-state media-driven elitist elements who favor renewed European sovereignty over the Americas, with the result that illegal aliens, common criminals, the dead, and household pets are now able to vote in American elections. Rather, they have votes which are decided on their behalf by self-appointed authoritarians.

The interventionist totalitarians of the OSCE are not here to prevent this monstrous left-wing fraud, they are here to validate it.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 10:50 Comments || Top||

#22  Atomic
Quit that Bulsh-it!
Posted by: Murat || 11/02/2004 10:57 Comments || Top||

#23  What's the word on those Armenian observers, Murat? Should I pick them up at the airport? I got a pickup, so their coffins should fit in the back.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/02/2004 11:00 Comments || Top||

#24  In the meantime, hundreds of votes were found already registered on voting machines in Philadelphia before the polls opened. All were for Democrats (go figure). Republican poll watchers were chased away at gunpoint.
What are the chances that OSCE and other Euro-fucks will have a word to say about this or any other evidence of Demo fifth column cheating?
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#25  Fuck you, Murat. I don't take orders from chickenshit Mohammedan murderers or their Euro-dhimmi slaves.
Scum, pig son of a Moslem whore's buggered arsehole.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#26  Murat's still angry cuz in the invasion of Iraq, Turkey took it rough from France without a reach-around
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#27  The dhimmi terrorist who showed the gun in Philadelphia should be shot dead, and the OSCE and Euro-fraud "journalist" enablers should swing from lampposts by nightfall.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#28  After seeing the news items about machines in Philly stocked with several hundred votes before the polls opened, and hearing from a co-worker today about her experience voting in Ohio this morning (She tried re-registering several times in the last three years since moving across town without receiving any confirmation and showed up at the polling place this morning to find--naturally--she still is not registered at her new address. She filled out a provisional ballot, and they didn't even ask to see ANY of her ID.), I'm not so sure this is such a bad idea.

For Murat to blame any of this on Bush, however, is ridiculous and shows he has no grasp whatsoever of history--especially where it affects Armenians. Ain't that right, Murat?
Posted by: Dar || 11/02/2004 11:17 Comments || Top||

#29  Mrs. Davis, I'm solidly on your side and very sympathetic to your perspective (IMHO something like 75% of our federal government should be dissolved and the usurped powers returned to the states). But there are areas of natural domain for the federal government. For example, no other entity exists that could develop and enforce a uniform set of nationwide voter registration / participation rules. The federal government is also uniquely positioned to, for example, create a nationwide database of voter registrations linked to SS numbers and to require upward reporting to quash multiple registrations. In my opinion there should be solid well-defined federal voter registration / participation requirements for federal elections. If the states chose to piggyback on those, fine. If not, they'd still be free to implement whatever rules they might choose for registration / participation in state & local elections.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 11:18 Comments || Top||

#30  My dear Murat, keep in mind that it was you who introduced scatological invective into this string. As we say in Texas, don't bring a pen-knife to an artillery duel.

What you are seeing is not the end of Bush, it is the beginning of the end of the global media elite and their 40 year reign of terror.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#31  This Bush guy did not only get you bankrupt, he also flushed your democracy to 3rd world standards

I see you're using the Osama talking points. Well done. Your master is very proud.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/02/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#32  I'm with the 75% number AzCat! Just don't mess with the Peanut Program!

/channeling Uncle Rich Peanut Farmer Shipman

Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#33  I think its lovely that the whole world is concerned. This is going to be one of those "be careful what you wish for" moments for them -- the observers will go back home and fail in the attempt to apply the same standards there as here... just as many now demand the Miranda rights that they've seen on television, not realizing that is American law, not world wide.

Increased rights come when the people realize they are possible, then begin to demand them.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#34  Just can't wait till this is over and the all the pussies (murat) of the world get a dose of reality!
Posted by: Dan || 11/02/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#35  Shipman, I can only name one peanut farmer. It's not a pretty name. Please tell me it's not your uncle's name.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#36  Nope, Mrs. D. my family sued jimmuahs biz for bad peanut seed and won! jimmuah just raises seed peanuts.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#37  I'm all for "states rights" on most matters, and I really don't mind allowing states the ability to create their own ballots, implement their own technology for counting votes, and other such liberties. BUT, there MUST be a Federal requirement that a valid state or Federal I.D. be presented before a ballot can be cast.

If we don't take steps to ensure this requirement is added, 2004 may mark the last Presidential election won by a Republican for quite some time.
Posted by: Crusader || 11/02/2004 15:25 Comments || Top||

#38  This Bush guy did not only get you bankrupt, he also flushed your democracy to 3rd world standards

This is not an "Osama talking point." The Osama video is almost certainly a fake, produced by a western hack. The style, syntax, content, even the stupid attempts at wordplay and humor all point to an American hand. See my comments on the Osama video thread.
Posted by: lex || 11/02/2004 15:29 Comments || Top||

#39  I agree Crusader but there also must be a proof-of-citizenship requirement to register and a mechanism to automatically purge multiple registrations, registrations for the dead, etc. Eliminating multiple registrations can't really be done by the states. E.g., consider snowbird retirees who split their years between addresses in multiple states. The sort of coordination necessary to prevent multistate registration can really only happen at the federal level.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||

#40 

AzCat: I agree with you--I obviously worded my original post poorly. What I really mean is that I don't mind allowing the states some latitude on design of ballot, recording mechanisms, etc, but that there MUST be some HARD requirements from the Federal level to prevent the "come-one-come all" attitude that exists in California, Wisconsin, and other places.
Posted by: Crusader || 11/02/2004 15:56 Comments || Top||

#41  Murat,

It is one thing to disagree with Bush and another thing to be anti-American. The FREEDOM to disagree is Democracy. But, you are sounding like you HATE America. Which is it? Or better yet, Are you even American?
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 11/02/2004 16:17 Comments || Top||

#42  Murat, where are the armenian, cypriot and kurdish representatives from Turkey?

because Turkey is such a shining beacon... of democracy... it keeps voting in islamofascists... lucky Attaturk set you up so the military junta would just take over when you got a Taliban government.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 17:18 Comments || Top||

#43  Or better yet, Are you even American?

Last I heard he was Turkish, living, breathing and otherwise wasting energy in Turkey.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/02/2004 17:38 Comments || Top||

#44  Ahhhh, Murat II! Good to see you crawl out of the wood-work to witness our day of victory.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/02/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#45  I suspect Murat is an Arab trying to pass as an American. Anyone knows enough Turkish to sublit himl to a little test?
Posted by: JFM || 11/02/2004 18:02 Comments || Top||

#46  I think Murat II is an Arab trying to pass has a Turk.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 18:36 Comments || Top||

#47  Time to conjure up Bedwettian! Or Robert Crawford... which every you like.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/02/2004 18:37 Comments || Top||

#48  Hey Murat, how many military coups has Turkey had since the revolution? How many of them replaced a democratically elected government? When was the last one?

Say the numbers, bitch! Say it!
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/02/2004 21:11 Comments || Top||


And Away We Go! : Bush 32 - Kerry 24 - Nader 1
Tradition Prevails In Dixville North, Hart's Location Voting
And, Yes, The Decision Is Tied -- At Least In Hart's Location
POSTED: 12:24 am EST November 2, 2004
UPDATED: 12:34 am EST November 2, 2004

HART'S LOCATION, N.H. -- President Bush and John Kerry each received 15 votes in the nation's initial votes for president just after midnight Tuesday. Ralph Nader received one vote. The first vote came from Hart's Location. The 26 registered voters in Dixville Notch were still were casting votes shortly after midnight.

The communities since 1948 sporadically have been taking advantage of a state law that allows communities to close polls early if all registered voters have voted. In 2000, both mountain hamlets chose President Bush over Democrat Al Gore. In Hart's Location, Bush won 17-13. In Dixville Notch, about 50 miles to the north, Bush had 21, Gore five and Ralph Nader one vote. By state law, polls must be open between 11 a.m. and 7 p.m. But nothing prevents a town from opening the polls earlier, and closing after all potential voters have cast ballots.

Hart's Location began doing just that in 1948 because nearly everyone in town worked for the railroad and many had to be at work before normal voting hours. Dixville followed in 1960. Hart's Location residents traditionally cast their ballots at the Notchland Inn, but this year voting was moved to the new town hall. National media attention to these "first votes" began in 1952, when the state let voters in the state's earliest presidential primary vote for the candidates themselves rather than delegates to the national party conventions. The Republican primary made news that year because Gen. Dwight Eisenhower upset party favorite Robert A. Taft. Small towns including Hart's Location, Millsfield and Waterville Valley soon were competing to cast the nation's first votes. Hart's Location dropped early voting in 1964, only to revive it 1996.

Dixville didn't get into the act until 1960 for the general election. Reflecting the state's then-solid Republican leanings, Republican Richard Nixon beat Democrat John Kennedy, 9-0. Kennedy triumphed nationally in one of the closest presidential elections ever. Republicans still have the edge in both towns. Hart's Location has 10 Republicans, 15 independents and six Democrats. Dixville has 13 Republicans, 11 independents and two Democrats.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/02/2004 12:50:13 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What the heck kinda name is "Hart's Location"? What about "Duck's Vicinity" and "Bear's Map Coordinates"?
Posted by: mojo || 11/02/2004 1:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Reporters asked Kerry what he thought of the Dixville Notch N.H. election results so far... and he said they were very, very......
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/02/2004 1:42 Comments || Top||

#3  I've been to Dixville Notch. It's a very beautiful place.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 11/02/2004 8:12 Comments || Top||

#4  In the fall.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/02/2004 8:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Change! Bush 33-Kerry 23-Nader 1!
Hart's Location which had originally reported a 15-15 tie, had a recount and BUSH WINS 16-14!


25 of Kerry's lawyers descend on site to challenge! (Just Kidding)
Posted by: BigEd || 11/02/2004 9:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Go Bush, hope kerry flatlines.
Posted by: Shep UK || 11/02/2004 13:17 Comments || Top||

#7  From la Belle France, with love : Go GWB!
I really hope Bush will prevail with a decent majority, and that Lex is correct about turnout, closet supporters, poll bias, jewish vote in Florida, and all.
French elite (and therefore public opinion, as it is molded by that very same elite) is hugely favorable to Kerry, and a GWB defeat would immensely please a whole bunch of people I dispise (not too mention their international equivalent); so, ladies and gentlemen, don't disappoint me!!!
Posted by: Anonymous5089 || 11/02/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||


Dem Party Ohio and Dem527 (ACT) sued in Ohio under RICO
Not hearing this on in the MSM are you? Imagine if it was Republicans and the NRA and Democrat urban people being screwed with... The press/MSM double standard continues to Lie by Omission
Mark Weaver, legal counsel of the Ohio Republican Party, said the state GOP was planning to file a temporary restraining order with the Marion County Court of Common Pleas, which is north of Columbus, to stop or try and enjoin certain parties from making misrepresenting phone calls to voters in several counties. Named in the suit are the Ohio Democratic Party, the Marion County Democratic Party, the Greene County Democratic Party and the left-leaning group America Coming Together (search). Weaver said the suit alleges civil conspiracy, fraud and racketeering charges. The racketeering, or RICO, charge was levied because the GOP alleges certain illegal acts were carried out by more than one person.

Weaver said these groups have been placing dozens of phone calls in several counties, telling voters to go to the wrong polling places, and falsely saying they must bring utility bills and other pieces of information to the polls. He also said one person told the GOP that the origin of one of the phone calls came up on the caller ID, and the call was traced back to the Ohio Democratic Party. Weaver said the counties where these calls have taken place are "rock rib" GOP counties. He said he's not sure a court will be able to take the appropriate action before Tuesday's vote, but "to know that this is happening and not do anything would have been an injustice."

Weaver acknowledged that dirty campaigning is typical at this time before the election, but suggested Democrats have reached a new low with these calls. He also said calls were being placed to people trained by the GOP to be Election Day challengers. These people were told they no longer were needed on Election Day. Weaver characterized these phone calls as another dirty measure.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 12:10:22 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More Dem criminal behavior... Can anyone honestly vote for these theives after this systematic campaign of lies, distortion and violanece the Dems have put up against Republicans?

Schwarzkopf has endorsed President Bush, but in a recording of a phone call played for The Associated Press, a man identifying himself as the Persian Gulf War general says, "In 2000, I voted for George W. Bush, but this year I'm voting for John Kerry. ... John Kerry has a real plan to make our military stronger and to go after terrorists wherever they hide. We need a vote for change, vote for John Kerry."

A voice says the message was paid for by the Democratic National Committee.

In a statement from the Bush campaign, Schwarzkopf said the DNC was making fraudulent phone calls claiming that he had endorsed Kerry, and "nothing could be further from the truth, and I demand that they stop immediately.

The DNC had no immediate reaction.

...

In Lancaster County, Pa., Republican officials said bogus phone calls have gone to at least a dozen elderly voters, alleging they are ineligible to vote. The calls appeared to target Republicans, said Rep. Joe Pitts, R-Pa., who called them "an outrageous effort on the part of someone to try to repress the vote."

Registered Republican voters outnumber Democrats in Lancaster County more than a 3-to-1 margin.

GOP officials, meanwhile, have been getting reports of phone calls being made by a person who says he's representing the Bush campaign, and then unlooses a string of swear words. Another phone call is said to tell voters they've been drafted for military service because Bush needs them for the war in Iraq.

Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  I am so damend furious about this kind of crap, it will be hard not to get out of my car and slap the face of every Kerry sign-waving idiot I see, while I am driving Republicans and Republican leaning voters to thepolls all day tomorrow.

They have become domestic enemies of the Constitution I swore to uphold and defend.

Time for rest. But damn, is there nothing the Democrats will not stoop to?
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 0:38 Comments || Top||

#3  ... umm, we knew that months ago.

Now vote and THEN smack! They were cheating months ago, they're cheating now! No moral tirades about it, just smack and whack!
Posted by: Edward Yee || 11/02/2004 0:50 Comments || Top||

#4  They aren't doing anything wrong.
We are all equal.
Just some are a little more equal than others.
Oink!
Posted by: Animal Farm || 11/02/2004 7:37 Comments || Top||

#5  In my best goat voice:
"One vote gooood." (Republican)
"two votes better" (Democrat)
I hope they can live with themselves in the morning.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/02/2004 8:32 Comments || Top||

#6  *sigh* As above, Cyber Sarge -- that was a given.
Posted by: Shaiter Thrutle8631 || 11/02/2004 8:44 Comments || Top||

#7  A bit off topic. Ohio Sec. Of State Blackwell announced a estimated turnout of 72% of eligible voters today.

That seems to be the case talking to workmates that voted this morning. Every polling place had very long lines even as early as 6:30am. I passed my voting station at 7:00am; the line was wrapped around the church and to my untrained eye, looked like a hour or two wait. I just kept driving - absentee is the way to go!!
Posted by: Doc8404 || 11/02/2004 9:02 Comments || Top||

#8  I guess if you are a certain kind of democrat, its not enough to simply support terrorism abroad; you have to do more- much more.
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 9:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Drudge: VOTES FOUND ON MACHINES IN PHILLY, BEFORE POLLS OPEN
Before voting even began in Philadelphia -- poll watchers found nearly 2000 votes already planted on machines scattered throughout the city... One incident occurred at the SALVATION ARMY, 2601 N. 11th St., Philadelphia, Pa: Ward 37, division 8... pollwatchers uncovered 4 machines with planted votes; one with over 200 and one with nearly 500... A second location, 1901 W. Girard Ave., Berean Institute, Philadelphia, Pa, had 300+ votes already on 2 machines at start of day... INCIDENT: 292 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 7/7: ADDRESS: 122 W. Erie Ave., Roberto Clemente School, Philadelphia, Pa.; INCIDENT: 456 votes on machine at start of day; WARD/DIVISION: 12/3; ADDRESS: 5657 Chew Ave., storefront, Philadelphia, Pa... A gun was purposely made visible to scare poll watchers at Ward 30, division 11, at 905 S. 20th St., Grand Court. Police were called and surrounded the location... Developing...
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#10  And who were those votes for may I ask????
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/02/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#11  Ed Rendell's been busy. POS
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 10:27 Comments || Top||

#12  Yes, Rendell has been busy--he very nearly kept the ballots going out to our PA men and women in uniform from being counted because they would not have been returned from Afghanistan, Iraq, or other such scenic locales early enough to meet the deadline. Fortunately, that was successfully challenged and the deadline extended. The man is slime, I tell ya!
Posted by: Dar || 11/02/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||

#13  Filthy bastards.

For the first time since 1980, I voted a straight Republican ticket, all the way down to county sheriff. In the one case in which the Democrat was unopposed, I wrote in Myself.

As long as the Democrats keep up their brownshirt tactics, I'm voting straight R every time.

I really don't like RICO and think it has been greatly abused, but in this case...
Posted by: jackal || 11/02/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||

#14  Crap like this is why, should Kerry win, he will not be able to govern. The Dems bought the Florida fable and are still bitter. What do they think the Republican reaction will be to election fraud on a national scale. It really is rule or ruin, Sampson in the Temple, time for these people. They are destroying the system.
Posted by: RWV || 11/02/2004 18:00 Comments || Top||

#15  I also voted straight Republican for the first time. I have been angered at the blatant press propaganda against the Republicans, the denigration of the war against the Islamists, and constant errors by omission favoring the Democrats. I have come to expect a certain level of it from the press, but the last few years have been a rude awakening to where the Democrats, press, media and liberal/socialist elites want to take our country.

I am so utterly, totally, completely dismayed that the Democratic party chose a traitor for the presidential ticket, who has a 30 year track record of shilling for our enemies, ignoring Lieberman, or better yet Zell Miller, who understands the nature of our enemies and who would make uncompromising war against them. Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that all the leftist elites care about is power, not honor, not the safety of Americans, not the health of our nation, just power.
Posted by: ed || 11/02/2004 18:22 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Intifada Against College Republicans @ SanFranStateU.
A mob of Arab students at San Francisco State University attacked a group of College Republicans on the San Francisco State University campus at noon [11/1/04] during a "Turnout the Vote" event in front of the campus student union building.

Derek Wray, President of the SFSU College Republicans, told Front Page Magazine that an angry mob of Palestinian students attacked the club's table, as well as individual members of the Republican club who were handing out pro-Bush/Cheney campaign materials. According to Wray, campus police were nearby, but "just stood around watching and, instead of protecting the College Republican students from the mob that was pouring drinks on our table and materials, and even physically assaulting our members, only suggested that the campus Republicans leave rather than arrest those responsible for the violence."

Wray said the incident began when four Palestinian women from the General Union of Palestinian Students (GUPS) on the S.F. State campus approached the CRs' table and began a verbal tirade. "You and the Jews want to kill all the Muslims!" one screamed at Wray. "You and Ariel Sharon want to kill innocent Palestinian babies." A larger crowd of male Arab students then joined in creating a threatening mob in front of the table.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/02/2004 11:09:51 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For various reasons; some good, some not; the current administration is unable to exercise its Constitutional obligation to protect the civil rights of American students from violent attack by totalitarian administrators and their terrorist proxies. It is therefore right and lawful, under principles enshrined in the Constitution and the Enlightenment, for those threatened to take matters into their own hands.

Violence by Arab terrorist infiltrators should be met in kind, and the administrators and media who abet them should be similarly targeted.
This is it, people, Civil War II.
The lefties and their mo-heathen enforcers want war, let them have war.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/02/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Is there a trial lawyer out there who would be willing to file suit against the university police? Arnold needs to get the state police to take over until the university police get their act together.

"...I would strap a bomb on myself and blow myself up as a suicide bomber rather than call myself an American..."
Sounds like deportation time to me.
Posted by: Tom || 11/02/2004 12:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I would strap a bomb on myself and blow myself up as a suicide bomber

Now that sounds like a direct terrorist threat. Did anyone notify the FBI?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 11/02/2004 12:27 Comments || Top||

#4  It wouldn't matter out here Tom. There's not a judge in SF county that would let such a case see the light of day.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#5  Suggestions: film it and demand the suspension of the officers and students. File a suit re: harrassment of free speech rights. If the bitch swings at you, kick her ass
Posted by: Frank G || 11/02/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#6  I was there at SF State during the Gulf War....nothing's changed. Except, at least we had a football team back then. The Paleos are treated like royalty, so forget about going after them. Any lawsuit will have to target the admnistration...heads need to roll over this.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/02/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Gimme my damn jo - I'll finish off here what I didnt get to finish over there in 92. They want to rumble? Lets see them try.

I will be out the rest of the day and probably tomorrow to help out a Marine. He's one of "my kids" that I helped in youth group (as a drill intructor then later as a Big Brother). He is coming home from Al Anbar province in Iraq. He was one of the best and brightests kids I have ever known, someone who made the world a better place.

His funeral is tomorrow.

I know I shouldnt post when I'm this messed up. But,

KILL EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THOSE MONSTERS!

DROP THE DAMNED BOMBS UNTIL THE RUBBLE BOUNCES. THEN SALT THE GROUND. THEY DESERVE NO QUARTER, NO MERCY. ONLY EXTERMINATION.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/02/2004 13:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Oh dear, OS. You have my heartfelt condolences. You are in my thoughts today.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/02/2004 13:09 Comments || Top||

#9  What, and tyou didn't kick some paleo butt? Pussies.
Posted by: mojo || 11/02/2004 13:24 Comments || Top||

#10  mojo...if you're asking why the campus Republicans didn't kick butt, it's becuase the police were right there, and they are nothing more than armed body guards for the paleos. Trust me on this...noone dares lay so much as finger on these a-wipes. The paleo thugs know this and act accordingly.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/02/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#11  Somebody lays a hand on me, I don't care if there's cops around - Mr. Paleo's gonna be eatin teeth.
Posted by: mojo || 11/02/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Californians should be pounding on the Guv's and legislature's and both Senators and all the Congressmen's doors today and every day about this. The taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize an intifata.
Posted by: mhw || 11/02/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#13  jsut disgusting... I am with OS..kill all of them but start with murat!

does sound bad but we are past the point of no return...take the necessary measures now and sort it out later...
Posted by: Dan || 11/02/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#14  The taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize an intifata.

We've been subsidizing one for years, it's known as "U.C. Berkeley".
Posted by: AzCat || 11/02/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#15  mojo: What, and tyou didn't kick some paleo butt? Pussies.

No point in risking assault charges. The smart thing to have done would have been to bring a video camera, in case something like this happened. Just have a guy monitoring the situation from a few dozen feet away. I bet the situation would have been a lot calmer.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/02/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#16  I like your style mojo. I know how those students feel. Every day they go into the belly of the beast. You wouldn't think, but just doing what they were doing was actually pretty brave. They new they would be in for some trouble.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/02/2004 13:55 Comments || Top||

#17  It's disgusting but not surprising.

Frank G: great idea. Only way is the legal way. Film and complain complain complain. Fill out forms. Complain to ombudspeople, student council etc etc.

Every official channel that ought to be doing something and isn't.

Record their responses however inadequate. Then take it to the level above and so on.

Old Spook: I am sorry for your loss. I agree. Bomb the bastards. Bomb fallujah to batshit for starters.
Posted by: Anon1 || 11/02/2004 16:23 Comments || Top||

#18  Hello, OldSpook. My sincere condolences on your loss. But on a brighter note, welcome to the other side. I agree completely.
Posted by: Asedwich || 11/02/2004 21:06 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Fasting online: Ramadan television faces Internet competition
Ramadan e-cards, iftar recipes, spiritual guidance and praying tips blend online with children's stories and the latest news out of Iraq, as Muslim Web sites aim to compete with Arab television for Ramadan audiences. Despite the growing number of "hits," the special Ramadan sections of scores of Arab Web sites are still far from attracting as many viewers as the countless soap operas which keep millions of people glued to their sets after Muslim evening prayers. But with a fast-growing pool of Internet-users, which currently stands at around 3.3 million, Egypt has witnessed a surge of interest in Ramadan-related surfing this year. As life in general moves at a slower pace during Ramadan, young users say they "like to kill time" by surfing the Web before the cannon goes off at sunset, signaling the time to break the dawn-to-dusk fast with your family...
A pleasant article about nice Moslems, for a change.
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SUBMARINES: India Develops Underwater Missile Launch
Normally, a test of India's Prithvi short-range (300 kilometers) ballistic missile would not draw notice. However, a recent test launch near Chandipur was notable — not for occurring, but from where the Prithvi was launched — underwater. At present, five nations have ballistic missile submarines: The United States (14 Ohio-class SSBN), Russia (7 Delta IV-class SSBN and 2 Typhoons), France (a total of four SSBNs between the L'Inflexible and Le Triomphant classes — the latter are replacing the former), the United Kingdom (4 Vanguard-class SSBN), and the People's Republic of China (one Xia-class SSBN). With the successful underwater launch of the Prithvi, India has now cleared a major technological hurdle in its effort to join this club...
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