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2006-07-24 Britain

Wacky (CofE) Bishop of London Declares Fatwa Against Flying In Aircraft

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-07-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Prime example of why organized religion fails it as far as I am concerned. Though not as bad a condoning murder, rape amd pillage it's just as stupid.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-07-23 21:09|| 2006-07-23 21:09|| Front Page Top

#2 "This is rather a knee-jerk reaction from the Church. Maybe they should stick to what they know best."

As a former Episcopalian, I still don't know what they know best, and I'm pretty sure they don't either.

Posted by xbalanke 2006-07-23 21:11|| 2006-07-23 21:11|| Front Page Top

#3 #2 xbalanke - it appears "what they know best" is making complete public asses of themselves.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-07-23 21:19|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com] 2006-07-23 21:19|| Front Page Top

#4 I saw these morons on tv the other day, giving a service. They were talking about how 'green' Jesus was. It's kinda sad how desperate they are to fill the empty seats.

Posted by Kali 2006-07-24 00:55|| 2006-07-24 00:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Those cassocks look rather snowy white. It must take a great many pounds of greenhouse emmissions to heat the many frivolous gallons of water necessary, plus the ghastly oceans of bleach to properly dazzle your dull-witted constituents. I'd also like to see the union cards for your beleaguered laundresses, undoubtedly labouring away in inhuman conditions for your superfluous and petty vanities.

Have you no shame?

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-07-24 01:10|| 2006-07-24 01:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Typical elitist hypocritical crap. Some goof takes his family to Spain, and that's a sin against the planet. But his trips to Russia are ok. No wonder the C of E can't get butts in the pews.

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-07-24 02:03|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-07-24 02:03|| Front Page Top

#7 Has anyone seen anything about temperatures across the US going up an average of 3 degrees on the days that all the planes were grounded after 9/11? Something about the con-trails reflecting enough sunlight energy back into space that it actually made some noticable difference? I don't believe it, but it might be interesting if it were true.

Posted by gorb 2006-07-24 02:44|| 2006-07-24 02:44|| Front Page Top

#8 These clowns must be suffering from delayed jetlag. When I fly my plane on holiday, I only get proplag, so I must be exempt from the fatwa, heh.

So if you fly a broad on a foreign holiday, you are a sinner, ya say? What about yer wife-o? Is that OK? And what about flying from London to Stornaway? In country, is that ok? I've got a million of them, but Ima gettn bored.

Posted by Al Aska Paul, Resident Imam">Al Aska Paul, Resident Imam 2006-07-24 02:47|| 2006-07-24 02:47|| Front Page Top

#9 #5 Seafarious,

In case you don't recognize that photo, it's actually the Archbishop hangin' loose with his self-proclaimed Druid friends.

Apparently, Anglicanism isn't enough for him; he has to dress like a pre-Christian "druid" and pretend to be some sort of priest from Stonehenge.

Like a sad group of Trekkies speaking "Klingon", if you ask me (and no one has). I believe the proper term in the Queen's English is "wanker".

Posted by JDB 2006-07-24 04:54|| 2006-07-24 04:54|| Front Page Top

#10 The Bishop of London, who is married with four children, heads the church's 'Shrinking the Footprint' campaign

Shrking gis church's footprint I would say. Or enlarging Mr Bishop's assprint

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-07-24 08:15|| 2006-07-24 08:15|| Front Page Top

#11 gorb, actually it was 2 degrees when the contrails were absent after 11 Sep. Naturally the good bishop wouldn't care to have actual facts get in the way of his self-righteous argument...

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2006-07-24 08:46|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-07-24 08:46|| Front Page Top

#12 'The 40 per cent Church of England'

They are easilly going to eliminate 60% of current membership to make the goal.

Posted by Inspector Clueso 2006-07-24 08:52|| 2006-07-24 08:52|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree, we should all be more eco-conscious. Which is why I say all Brits should stay home on Sundays thus saving the gas they'd otherwise use driving to this idiot's church.

Posted by Broadhead6 2006-07-24 08:55|| 2006-07-24 08:55|| Front Page Top

#14 I've begun to see "statistics" cited by "all the right people" that *nightime* contrails are bad and contribute to global warming, *daytime* contrails are good 'cos they reflect sunlight.

Sayonara, redeye flights to Europe and East Coast...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-07-24 09:30|| 2006-07-24 09:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Sounds like kind of a fly-by-night theory to me...

Posted by Flinelet Angavitle5908 2006-07-24 09:38|| 2006-07-24 09:38|| Front Page Top

#16 Is this really another batty idea from the Church of England? I want to look at it from another point of view.

I suppose that the C of E believes that:

a. global warming exists. It is of man's making and it is a bad thing for the Earth (there is
something in Genesis about God handing over the responsibility for looking after the Earth to
man)

b. individuals should then behave more responsibly towards this problem.

Note that the Bishop does not call flying specifically a sin, but a symptom of sin and with
regards to the meaning of sin itself, one could do no worse than read his second quote from the
article:

"Sin is not just a restricted list of moral mistakes. It is living a life turned in on itself where
people ignore the consequences of their actions."

It is regrettable that the comments on the blog make no mention of these reasonable points.

P.S. Is the Blogmeister aware that the concept of Fatwa is exclusively an Islamic word and is
anthema to Christian thoughts, words and deeds?

Posted by Anguus">Anguus 2006-07-24 10:35|| 2006-07-24 10:35|| Front Page Top

#17 "To soak up its carbon emissions" (from flying to Spain example), "the family would need to spend an extra £17.30 to plant trees to 'neutralise' their emissions."

It's all nonsense, but if a family can afford to fly to Spain, they can easily afford $50 to plant a few trees. Might even be fun. So . . . fly around and plant trees. Sounds like a plan.

Posted by ex-lib 2006-07-24 10:40|| 2006-07-24 10:40|| Front Page Top

#18 Next fatwa will forbid to eat beans, chickpeas and even potatoes because this produces greenhouse gasses.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2006-07-24 11:15|| 2006-07-24 11:15|| Front Page Top

#19
#16 Anguus---The poster "Anonymoose" used the term "fatwa" in the title of the article to get his point across.

It's subtle, like the p in swimming.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2006-07-24 11:43|| 2006-07-24 11:43|| Front Page Top

#20 Seafarious,

In case you don't recognize that photo, it's actually the Archbishop hangin' loose with his self-proclaimed Druid friends.

See how bad the Druids are for the environment? They oughtta be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-07-24 12:07|| 2006-07-24 12:07|| Front Page Top

#21 In a highly controversial statement, Richard Chartres, 59 - who admits to regular visits to Russia...

So how does he get there?
From now on, make sure the sanctimonious prick walks.

Posted by tu3031 2006-07-24 12:19|| 2006-07-24 12:19|| Front Page Top

#22 Priest: "Owah!"
Response: "Oooo-wahhhh!"
Priest: "Tagoo!"
Response: "Ta-gooooo!"
Priest: "Siam!"
Response: "Siammmm!"

Posted by mojo">mojo 2006-07-24 13:30|| 2006-07-24 13:30|| Front Page Top

#23 Which is why I say all Brits should stay home on Sundays thus saving the gas they'd otherwise use driving to this idiot's church.

I think that might include a few thousand people, all told. I believe that "Shrinking the Footprint" is already working, judging by active membership rolls.

Posted by Xbalanke 2006-07-24 18:18|| 2006-07-24 18:18|| Front Page Top

#24 "To soak up its carbon emissions" (from flying to Spain example), "the family would need to spend an extra £17.30 to plant trees to 'neutralise' their emissions."

Careful, "they" might come up with some kind of "trees to cancel nighttime contrails" tax/charge. :-)

Posted by gorb 2006-07-24 19:52|| 2006-07-24 19:52|| Front Page Top

#25 "Is the Blogmeister aware that the concept of Fatwa is exclusively an Islamic word and is anthema to Christian thoughts, words and deeds?"

I believe it is something called "irony". Something obviously lacking within your make-up.

Posted by Fordesque 2006-07-24 21:13|| 2006-07-24 21:13|| Front Page Top

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