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Moroccan convicted over 9/11 plot
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Afghanistan
CENTAF releases airpower summary for Nov. 16
In Afghanistan Nov. 15, Air Force A-10 Thunderbolt IIs provided close-air support for International Security Assistance Force, or ISAF, troops in contact with Taliban extremists near Oruzgan.

An Air Force B-1 Lancer provided close-air support to ISAF troops in contact with enemy forces near Ghazni.

Royal Air Force GR-7 Harriers provided close-air support to ISAF troops in contact with enemy forces near Lashkar Gah. The GR-7s expended rockets on enemy positions.

In total, 39 close-air-support missions were flown in support of ISAF and Afghan troops, reconstruction activities and route patrols.

Additionally, seven U.S. and Royal Air Force intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, or ISR, aircraft flew missions in support of operations in Afghanistan.
In Iraq, Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornets conducted a strike against anti-Iraqi forces near Ramadi. The F/A-18s expended Guided Bomb Unit-31s on enemy targets.

Air Force MQ-1 Predator unmanned aerial vehicles conducted a strike against anti-Iraqi forces near Baghdad. The Predators expended Hellfire missiles on enemy positions

RAF GR-4 Tornados and Air Force F-16 Fighting Falcons and F-15E Strike Eagles provided close-air support to troops in contact with anti-Iraqi forces near Baghdad. The F-16s expended cannon rounds and GBU-12s on enemy positions.

Air Force F-16s provided close-air support to troops in contact with anti-Iraqi forces near Samarra.

In total, coalition aircraft flew 39 close-air-support missions for Operation Iraqi Freedom. These missions included support to coalition troops, infrastructure protection, reconstruction activities and operations to deter and disrupt terrorist activities.

Additionally, 16 Air Force, Navy, RAF and Royal Australian Air Force ISR aircraft flew missions in support of operations in Iraq.

Air Force C-130 Hercules and C-17 Globemaster IIIs provided intra-theater heavy airlift support, helping sustain operations throughout Afghanistan, Iraq and the Horn of Africa. Approximately 143 airlift sorties were flown; about 550 tons of cargo was delivered, and more than 3,600 passengers were transported.

Coalition C-130 crews from Australia, Canada and Japan flew in support of OIF or OEF.

On Nov. 14, U.S., RAF, French and Singaporean Air Force tankers flew 36 sorties and off-loaded more than 2.4 million pounds of fuel.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/17/2006 09:24 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [286 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hurrah for the Sopwith Camels of the Royal Flying Corps! [and their esteemed cousins.]
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/17/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Chocks away, Ginger!
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/17/2006 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  I wasn't aware that Singapore was helping out. Thank you!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/17/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#4  According to Wikipedia, the SAF flies both KC-135R and KC-130s as tankers (4 a/c each).

public service announcement: there is a new search engine available: www.goodsearch.com This uses Yahoo a its key, but what is really cool about this site is that you can designate charities and each search results in a penny going to that charity. it doesn't sound like much, but think about how many times you search for something; multiply that by all the searchers and that can be some serious coinage. i have selected the American Cancer Society for all USN-Ret related searches. you can also input your own (they verify so i don't think the benevolent order of USN Ret will get any money)
Posted by: USN, ret. || 11/17/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#5  I shall consult with with 5089 USN, ret. If he gives the okay, it's a done deal.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#6  So anonymous5089 is an expert on weird conspiracy theories, old comic strips, French jihadi gangsta rap, internet pron and exotic new charity schemes, too? Is there nothing the man doesn't know???? ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#7  "The GR-7s expended rockets on enemy positions."
ooh! smarts!
its 2 early to tell but in the sky's over afghanistan seems to be busier than last week
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 11/17/2006 18:20 Comments || Top||


Another one bites the dust
KABUL - The US-led coalition and Afghan troops killed a “terrorist” and arrested four suspects in an early morning operation Thursday near Afghanistan’s capital Kabul, the force said.

The raid on a village in Kabul province was launched because ”credible information indicates the terrorists were responsible for attacks against Afghan and coalition forces,” the force said in a statement. “During the operation, one terrorist was shot and killed in a brief struggle. Four other men were taken into custody due to their involvement in terrorist activity.”
Posted by: Steve White || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat...
Posted by: mojo || 11/17/2006 10:19 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
A leader of New Biplabi Communist Party (NBCP) was killed in "crossfire" during a "shootout" between police and his accomplices at Bharatia of Dumuria upazila in Khulna yesterday.
Ok, I "believe" you. (wink).
The victim, Sujit Kumar Mondol, 40, was arrested Wednesday night at Prashadpur of Tala upazila in Satkhira.
"Welcome back, Sujit. Youse coming quietly or do we have to use force? Officer, take your foot off his neck so he can answer."
Police said Sujit returned to Dumuria from India on Tuesday with a view to regroup the armed cadres of his underground party and carry out subversive activities taking advantage of the current political situation. He had fled to India during Operation Clean Heart.
Thought the coast was clear. Guess he thought wrong.
A police team around 4:00am yesterday took him to Bharatia in a bid to recover hidden firearms. But as the team reached the spot, Sujit's cohorts opened fire on the team in an attempt to snatch Sujit.
"It's the law and they got da boss! Open reckless fire!"
Police retaliated which led to a 15-minute-long gun battle. Sujit was caught in the line of fire during the battle.
Caught a stray bullet behind his ear
Police took injured Sujit to local health complex where on-duty doctors declared him dead.
"He's dead, Jim"
Police recovered two pipe-guns, seven bullets and a large dagger from the spot. Three policemen including Sub-inspector Abdul Majid sustained bullet injuries. Sujit's accomplices, however, managed to escape.
Vanished like they were never there
A large number of people brought out a procession around noon in Dumuria upazila yesterday celebrating Sujit's death. City Ameer of Jamaat-e-Islami and former lawmaker Mian Golam Parwar led the procession.
"Huzza! Sujit is dead! Sweetmeats for everyone!"
According to Officer-in-charge Abdullah of Dumuria Police Station, the slain outlaw was wanted in 23 criminal cases, including eight murders cases recorded on twelve systems with different police stations of Khulna and Satkhira. He was the prime charge-sheeted accused of Dumuria BNP leader Siraj Mollah murder case, Abdullah said.
Posted by: Steve || 11/17/2006 08:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Kinda makes ya wonder what happened to the Old Biplabi Communist Party (OBCP), huh?
Posted by: mojo || 11/17/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Prashadpur of Tala upazila in Satkhira

Kinda sings don't it.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 14:49 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
France inspecting N. Korean ship in Indian Ocean
French customs officers are inspecting a North Korean ship on an Indian Ocean island as part of UN measures prompted by North Korea's nuclear test, the Foreign Ministry said Thursday. "The customs administration is currently proceeding with a complete and thorough inspection of merchandise and personnel on a North Korean ship on a stopover in Mayotte," Foreign Ministry spokesman Jean-Baptiste Mattei told an online briefing. Mayotte is a French-administered island between Mozambique and Madagascar.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [290 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Make sure you go over it real good. Take a couple of weeks even. Don't forget to rip up the floorboards, too. All of them.
Posted by: gorb || 11/17/2006 0:48 Comments || Top||

#2  France?
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 5:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Why would a North Korean ship stop over at Mayotte, a French-administered island between Mozambique and Madagascar?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 6:45 Comments || Top||

#4  They wanted to work on their tans?
Posted by: Jonathan || 11/17/2006 7:28 Comments || Top||

#5  India caught one at Mumbai the other day. Sounds like they're testing, stressing, lulling the system.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/17/2006 8:15 Comments || Top||

#6  From CIA World Factbook: Mayotte
Population: 201,234 (July 2006 est.)
Economic activity is based primarily on the agricultural sector, including fishing and livestock raising. Mayotte is not self-sufficient and must import a large portion of its food requirements, mainly from France. The economy and future development of the island are heavily dependent on French financial assistance, an important supplement to GDP. Mayotte's remote location is an obstacle to the development of tourism.

Agriculture - products: vanilla, ylang-ylang (perfume essence), coffee, copra
Industries: newly created lobster and shrimp industry, construction

Posted by: Steve || 11/17/2006 8:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Have they lost their collection of tar and feathers perchance ?
Posted by: MacNails || 11/17/2006 9:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Agriculture - products: vanilla, ylang-ylang (perfume essence), coffee, copra
Industries: newly created lobster and shrimp industry, construction


ylang-ylang....Pyongyang. They just got lost.
Posted by: john || 11/17/2006 9:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Why would a North Korean ship stop over at Mayotte, a French-administered island between Mozambique and Madagascar?

The French can be bought. They're on the other side, I would not put it past them to give the all clear on a ship when the truth was the opposite. Some day we'll have to flatten France along with a few others. That's if we survive their combined first strike.

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/17/2006 10:06 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm waiting for the French to surrender to the Nork ship.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/17/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#11  They need to perform a catastrophic failure tensile strength test on all of the ship's hull plate rivets.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||

#12  Zen....

You wanna sink the ship, yes? But you don't need to test all the rivets. I bet a couple of hundred would be sufficient.

Bobby the (civil)engineer
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#13  You can never be too sure, Bobby. Wouldn't want even a single defective one to slip through. We've the crew's safety to consider!

Zenster, the failure analyst.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 14:41 Comments || Top||

#14  I'd test the welds.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 14:51 Comments || Top||

#15  For instance, I recall William was defective.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#16  First Charles, now William. Will England never find a viable successor?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#17  For instance, I recall William was defective.

Good one, Shipman! Dry, very dry.
Posted by: xbalanke || 11/17/2006 20:15 Comments || Top||


Europe
Moroccan convicted over 9/11 plot
A German appeals court has found a Moroccan, Mounir al-Motassadek, guilty of being an accessory to murder in the 11 September 2001 attacks on the USA. The Karlsruhe court sent the case back to a lower court for sentencing. In August 2005, a Hamburg court jailed Motassadek for seven years, following a year-long retrial. But the Karlsruhe judge on Thursday overturned the Hamburg court's decision to acquit Motassadek, 32, on thousands of counts of accessory to murder. He now faces up to 15 years in jail.

The Moroccan acknowledges he was close to the hijackers but has always insisted he knew nothing of their plans. He has admitted attending an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.
Motassadek was originally jailed for 15 years in 2003, convicted of helping the 11 September plotters, who were based in Hamburg, with logistical support and other aid. But that verdict was overturned by Germany's Supreme Court in 2004 and a retrial ordered. The court ruled last August there was no proof that Motassadek knew about the 11 September plot and jailed him instead for membership of a terrorist organisation. He again appealed.

Defence lawyers at the retrial criticised the lack of direct testimony from witnesses held by the US. The Moroccan acknowledges he was close to the hijackers but has always insisted he knew nothing of their plans. He has admitted attending an al-Qaeda training camp in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [718 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Profile this:

If your granny has this mouth she needs the full Malcolm, if your grandkinderchild has a mouth like this it's time for an intense review of its life. If you have a facial zone like this prepare to explain your lifestyle choices over the last 20 years.

Yep, I also keep an eye on Leopards with Clorox stock.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 3:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Leopards play the stock market? The things I don't know! ;-)

Mr. al-Motassadek does look rather like a brain damaged chipmunk who's forgotten to knaw down his teeth, which are now well on their way to growing long enough to pierce his brain. A problem all rodents suffer of course, but most remember to chew on trees and such regularly.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 6:54 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Al-Qaida planned to use limos in foiled plot
A Britsh al-Qaida operative conducting surveillance on US soil in 2000 favored using a limousine packed with explosives or a hijacked oil tanker truck to attack financial institutions in Manhattan and New Jersey, police officials said Thursday. "The most obvious technique to utilize, that comes to mind ... would be a limousine in the VIP underground car park," the operative, Dhiren Barot, wrote in a memo about the Prudential Building in Newark, New Jersey.

Barot was sentenced to life in prison was sentenced to life in prison in Britain last week after pleading guilty to conspiring to commit mass murder. In his memo, Barot also suggested that "arson may be the best choice" and advised "ramming trucks (oil tankers, etc.) straight through the glass front entrance into the lobby area."

Hijacking a truck "will probably be much easier here in New Jersey than in New York since there is less security and no tunnels to pass through," added Barot, who spied on one location while sitting at a nearby Starbucks coffee shop.
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Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [328 views] Top|| File under:

#1  WHy can't we give these BASTARDS the "CHAIR" not CAIR.....OLD SPARKY!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/17/2006 8:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Limousine liberals to limousine terrorists, it should have been obvious.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/17/2006 13:43 Comments || Top||


5 Pakistanis accused of marriage fraud in US
Five Pakistanis living here have been accused of paying American women to marry them. If convicted, the men face deportation, the Kansas City Channel reported on Thursday.

US Attorney Bradley Schlozman said he believed that all five men were involved in sham marriages to stay in the United States. A 52-year-old woman from Independence, Robyn Adele Raja, has also been charged in the case. Schlozman said that Raja is a US citizen and was paid to marry one of the five Pakistani men. The five men charged in the 12-count indictment are Qammaruz Zaman Raja, 47, Riaz Ahmed, 44, and Muhammad Safique, 42, from Independence and Waseem Qammar, 26, and Nadeem Qammar from Sugar Creek. All six were charged with conspiracy to commit marriage fraud.

A friend of Ahmed, David Ray, said that he was surprised by the charges. “I didn’t know he was married. I never saw him with a woman and never heard him talk about one,” Ray said. Ray lives in Ahmed’s old apartment.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [313 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No anchor babies to worry about, then? Good.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 6:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Idea: Offer captured illegals a choice - deportation or neutering. Neutering ought to get Dem support - they pretty much self-neuter.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/17/2006 8:14 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
J&K villagers nab Pak terrorist
Is the tide turning against violence in Jammu & Kashmir? So it would seem if the actions of villagers in Awoora in the border district of Kupwara is an indicator, who overpowered a Pakistani Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorist and handed him to the police on Thursday. Kupwara SSP Vijay Kumar said the LeT terrorist — identified as Saqib Aziz Malik, a resident of Multan in Pakistan — had crossed into the Indian side from Machil sector in Kupwara during the night of November 4, 2006 along with five others.

Kumar quoted Saqib as saying that the 24-year-old class 12 dropout was a resident of Tehsil Kota-2, district Muzafergarh in Multan. Saqib was allegedly imparting training at Dudniyal training camp to terrorists for last two years, after receiving three months training two years ago. Asked if there were other such camps across the LoC, the terrorist apparently kept mum.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under:


20 die in Khyber Agency clash
At least 20 people were killed and several others were injured in a fierce clash between the Lashkar-e-Islami (AI) and the Ansaarul Islam in the Bara area of Khyber Agency, sources told Daily Times on Thursday. Sources said that an AI lashkar led by Gul Maidan was heading towards Aka Khel near Bara when supporters of the LI challenged them, fearing that the AI wanted to take possession of Bara. The two sides used heavy weapons in the fight that continued all day long. The Khyber Agency political agent was not available for comment.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [327 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No virgins for ye!!!
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/17/2006 6:14 Comments || Top||


Three injured in bomb blast in Mach
A woman and two girls were injured when a bomb exploded in Railway Colony in Mach, Balochistan, on Thursday, Geo television reported. Police have arrested four suspects, the channel said. Another explosion damaged a railway track in Harak near Mach, the channel quoted railway officials as saying.
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17 rockets seized in Chaghi
Security forces foiled a terrorism attempt by seizing 17 rockets and other explosive material in the Shaiban region of Chaghi. Acting on intelligence information, security forces raided a remote mountainous place in Chaghi and found 17 rockets, explosive material and 450 kilogrammes of morphine. No arrests were made. Separately, Pakistan handed over 90 Afghan prisoners to Afghan authorities near Chaman. The Afghan nationals had been arrested from various parts of Pakistan for involvement in different cases.
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Iraq
Warrant issued for Sunni leader
Iraq's Shiite-led Interior Ministry issued an arrest warrant Thursday for the top leader of the country's Sunni minority - a move certain to inflame already raging sectarian violence in Iraq. Interior Minister Jawad al-Bolani, a Shiite, announced on state television that Harith al-Dhari was wanted for inciting terrorism and violence among the Iraqi people.

On Friday, government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh played down what al-Bolani had said about the arrest warrant. "There was an investigation warrant related to the activities of Sheik Harith al-Dhari," al-Dabbagh told state-run Iraqiyah television. "This is up to the Iraqi judiciary system and has not political effect."
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 08:26 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [273 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is this the guy we have arrested twice before. Both in raids one was a raid of a suspected high ranking Insurgent meeting the other was when some high ranking Insurgent tried to run into his house and hide we pursued arrested everyone but the Sunni lobbied and got him released?

I understand Democracy is all about freedom of speech and being open to even opposing ideas but is it really nessecary for Democracy to exist that it must tolerate opposing views that are founded on (if they ever get power) destroying the capitolist/democracy they are involved in. Like Chaez or Sadr it only takes one election and thier is no correction you can't just switch from totaliterian to democracy or from capitolist to Socialist and back en forth. No were did the founders write the Democratic government to be bonified must accept opposition parties that are founded on the destruction of such Democracy if they just get voted in ONCE. Thats called suicide.
Posted by: C-Low || 11/17/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||


Mosque Clean Up
Special Iraqi Army Forces captured a large improvised explosive device and weapons cache located inside a mosque during a raid Nov. 16 near the Baghdad International Airport to capture IED emplacers.Coalition forces observed several persons placing an IED, but were unable to capture them before they fled into a nearby mosque compound.

Coalition forces cordoned the compound while an Iraqi force with coalition advisers entered the compound, consisting of a mosque and two houses, in search of the emplacers. Iraqi forces were unable to locate the individuals, but uncovered multiple hidden storage areas containing a large cache of IEDs, weapons and explosives which are used in attacks that injure and kill Iraqi civilians, Iraqi Security Forces and Coalition Forces. Weapons and material were found in the houses, the compound area and the mosque.

Iraqi forces found two vehicles prepared for use as car-bombs, as well as pre-made IEDs, to include a suicide-vest.

Continued search of the compound revealed several anti-tank mines, electrical initiation systems for IEDs, a mortar system and ammunition, several assault rifles and ammunition, several machine guns, pistols and a rocket propelled grenade launcher and ammunition.

Coalition forces destroyed the two vehicles on-site along with a MOPED discovered to have protruding wiring and with munitions hidden within it. An anti-tank mine with anti-handling mechanisms was also destroyed on-site. The remaining weapons and material was confiscated by coalition forces.

No IEDs or munitions were destroyed within the mosque itself.

No damage was done to the mosque and there were no Iraqi civilian, Iraqi forces or Coalition forces casualties.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/17/2006 09:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "No damage was done to the mosque"

When the war for freedom from islam hots up, we'll react a lot differently to religious arms dumps.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 11/17/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||

#2  "No IEDs or munitions were destroyed within the mosque itself."

I think all that stuff was too dangerous to be moved and should have been detonated in place.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/17/2006 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I still advocate exploding these devices when and where found--homes, mosques, roadsides, orchards, etc. Maybe the imam's will be a little more cautious about storing explosives in the mosques.
Posted by: GK || 11/17/2006 10:10 Comments || Top||

#4  GK, Some problems are simple to resolve.
Imams included => no further caution necessary.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/17/2006 10:13 Comments || Top||

#5  I'll bet Rumsfeld would have blown that mosque to bits.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/17/2006 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  wxjames, Rummy didn't blow the mosques. That's why we're losing. It is totally irresponsible to leave that mosque standing.
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222 || 11/17/2006 11:41 Comments || Top||

#7  How can you expect the American people to support a war when it's being fought in such a half-assed manner?
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222 || 11/17/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Dammit. How can you expect your enemies to have any fear or respect for you when you don't even make them pay? Tomorrow that mosque will be full of sh|t again and good people will die because we didn't demolish it.
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222 || 11/17/2006 11:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Nothing but armories. These should be targeted with 2000 pound ordnance from the heavens. There really is no chance of dealing with this pack of useless trash. The thing that should have been done from day one was to eradicate all evidence of mosks/imams. If Iraqis object, eliminate them too. We'd be far ahead in the hearts/ minds department today. The area, though it probably still be under martial law even today, would be peaceful. Anyone causing disruption should have been publicly executed. There is no other way forward. Since there is no will for this course, leave. Never go back. If further trouble occurs there, simply wipe out the area.
Posted by: SpecOp35 || 11/17/2006 11:55 Comments || Top||

#10  If the Mosque was "cordoned" by our troops, where did the emplacers go? The location needs to scanned for tunnels and the mosque should have been searched by coalition forces once the Iraqis weren't able to turn up the suspects.

Then they should have leveled the mosque, preferrably with its imam inside of it. This is just one more reason why Islam needs to lose its status as a religion. Once that goes, these are buildings, not churches. Hey, sh!t demolition happens.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#11  Since there is no will for this course, leave. Never go back. If further trouble occurs there, simply wipe out the area.

This is why I continue to predict that the next major show of force in the MME (Muslim Middle East), won't involve any troops. Unless we take down Iran, instead of leaving it to Israel, our return to the area probably will have a more ballistic trajectory.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 12:22 Comments || Top||

#12  I've got a mosque being built 200 yards from my house. I would like to submit this site as a candidate for a cordon/search op.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/17/2006 13:17 Comments || Top||

#13  I think this war needs more oversight. I mean real oversight, microscopic, from people in the know, from someone like me. And me is one of us, and us is always right.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 15:11 Comments || Top||

#14  well said Mr. ShipRight! »:-)


/w
Posted by: RD || 11/17/2006 19:49 Comments || Top||

#15  I believe that any mosque found to contain explosives and/or weapons should be razed by the Iraq government. It wouldn't have to happen too many times before they started to get the message. So they took the weapons out of the mosque and destroyed them. Fine. I will bet they have already been replaced with new ones.

I wonder why they even bothered reporting this story, it isn't any kind of a success, it is another pointing out of a failure. It says "you can take our ammo but you can't destroy us". Screw that.
Posted by: crosspatch || 11/17/2006 20:06 Comments || Top||

#16  "any mosque found to contain explosives and/or weapons should be razed by the Iraq government." - right on. The failure to do so by the Iraqi gov't is another one of several of their blind spots, along with the long lines of applicants repeatedly bombed by terrorists and repeated episodes of unarmed government workers being kidnapped.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/17/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||


Iraqi Security Forces captures leader
Special Iraqi Security Forces, with coalition advisers, captured the leader of a terrorist cell responsible for attacks on Iraqi civilians and security forces during a raid in the Arab A’Jabur area, south of Baghdad, Nov. 15.

The terrorist cell is linked to Al Qaeda in Iraq and is responsible for kidnappings; murder; home invasions; rape and illegal storage of arms and explosives used in attacks; and planting improvised explosive devices and car bombs.

Iraqi forces conducted a helicopter air-assault in the vicinity of the objective and detained the terrorist. Operations on the objective caused minor damage, but there were no Iraqi force or Coalition force casualties. However, one Iraqi civilian at the objective suffered minor cuts and abrasions during the operation and was treated by Coalition force medics. I think this is the source of the "parachuting" story from yesterday.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/17/2006 09:13 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [302 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is leader in the terrorist organizations like Associate in Walmart? If they captured as many of our leaders as we supposibly have of thiers, this war would be over.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/17/2006 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  This one is only the leader of a terrorist cell. On the order of a platoon leader, which would be what? A lieutenant, a sergeant, a lance corporal? But a leader, anyway.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 16:09 Comments || Top||


Nine Runs, Nine Hits, No Errors
BAGHDAD, IRAQ – Coalition Forces killed nine terrorists and detained nine suspected terrorists during a raid Thursday just south of Yusufiyah, further diminishing the al-Qaida in Iraq network.

As Coalition Forces approached the targeted area, they called out for people to exit the buildings. Ground forces noticed several armed individuals in a nearby wooded area maneuvering against them.

Close air support was called in to mitigate the threat to the Coalition Forces ground team. Mitigate the threat. Gotta love it. Izzat like, "Blow them to smithereens"? Coalition aircraft engaged the terrorists with precision fires. C'mon Baby, Light My Fire!

Several of the terrorists killed were wearing suicide vests.



This and other recent operations in the region highlight the deliberate, methodical dismantlement of the al-Qaida in Iraq network and those who contribute to its illegal actions. Yeah, Baby!
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 06:26 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [257 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whaaat dupe! From yesterday?
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 8:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Bobby, I think Dupe Entry means several people submitted the same article. Whether it's timing that determines which one goes up, or best comments, only the moderators know. But anyway, that's your name there, so...
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/17/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#3  "Whether it's timing that determines which one goes up, or best comments, only the moderators know."

Ha! NOBODY knows what actually causes that "Dupe Entry" thingie. My best guess is it's something Fred's code does at random...

Anyway, it's fixed.

Posted by: Dave D. || 11/17/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#4  NOBODY knows what actually causes that "Dupe Entry" thingie.

I think it's because the Rantburg blog is slowly turning into an AI.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/17/2006 11:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Should be IA, in english, of course.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/17/2006 11:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Not to be technical, but when you submit a post the Burg Borg compares the source URL to the URLs of all previous posts. If we get a match we get the 'Dupe' warning so mods can see if we've duplicated a post.

This isn't perfect: when we get a Scrappleface entry we always get a Dupe warning because the source URL is always the root for Scrappleface. So the mods edit those.

But otherwise it's a good way for us to avoid dupes so that Seafarious won't have as many excuses to laugh at me (as the mod who is the worst offender on dupes).
Posted by: Steve White || 11/17/2006 11:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Yep, dupe from yesterday. But good enough for a re-run.
http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?
ID=172213&D=
2006-11-16&SO=&HC=1
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/17/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Plus today had the great pictures and the fabulous snarky comments!

[/ego]
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||


Kidnapped faculty dean set free
(KUNA) -- Dean of a faculty of the ministry of higher education has been set free after being held as a hostage for one day, the ministry of the higher education said in a statement released on Thursday. It said Dr. Ali Shaker has been freed by his armed abductors after being held since he had been snatched while heading to work in the district of Al-Zaafaraniah early on Wednesday. He was set free as a result of intensive contacts, conducted by the ministry with influential political parties. The dean had been snatched along with scores of personnel of the ministry. Many of them have been reportedly freed.

In central Baghdad, a mortar shell crashed in the region of Bab Al-Sharqi killing a person and wounding three others. In the southern Al-Amel district, a motorcyle rigged with explosives blew up killing one civilian and wounding another.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [283 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We should have offered to exchange him for Chomsky.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 11/17/2006 18:38 Comments || Top||


Basra-based UK forces come under rocket fire
(KUNA) -- All British locations and military bases in the south Iraqi city of Basra came under shelling overnight, a spokesman for the south Iraq-based UK armed forces said in a statement Thursday. "Up to 26 Katyusha rockets landed on the outskirts of the British Embassy in central Basra while the Basra Airport, which is also used by British forces as a military base, came under fire and was targeted by nine such rockets," the spokesman said.

It added that a further three rockets landed on the military base and Shuaiba south of Basra while the British military base in the Shatt Al-Arab strategic waterway north of Basra also sustained four rockets. This is the first time the British bases, which have been based in Basra since 2003, are targeted by such an intensive barrage of rockets.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [289 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Time to capture strayed Iranian vessels along the shatt al-arab waterway , and create an unworkable political solution . We owe them that at least *wink*
Posted by: MacNails || 11/17/2006 9:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Terrorist cowards launch missiles and mortars from civilian areas because they know that UK forces won't retaliate in kind. The solution rests in pacification of the cities by Iraqi soldiers. That can't happen until: first, Shiite power is neutralized; Sunni power is directed against al-Qaeda in Iraq and the other terror groups. We can stay the course in Iraq, while working on regime change in Iran. When that happens, Iraq can be pacified.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/17/2006 13:15 Comments || Top||


More than 500 gunmen killed, arrested in Iraq last week
(KUNA) -- Iraqi ministry of Interior said Thursday that it arrested or eliminated 537 gunmen while 41 policemen were killed by insurgents throughout the previous week.

The National Police arrested 79 gunmen while the local police arrested 403 others in scattered areas of Iraq, the ministry said in its weekly report. Ten terrorists were killed by national police forces while 45 others were killed by local forces and seven hostages were released, the report added. The report carried on by saying that 156 policemen were injured. The statement revealed the names of top Iraqi members of leading terrorist groups that were arrested in addition to five Egyptians and five Syrians in Dyala province northeastern the capital Baghdad. Police also managed to dismantle three booby-trapped vehicles and seize 6000 pieces of weapons.

In a separate story, the Iraqi cabinet formed a special committee headed by Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki to reconstruct the holy Shiite shrines in the city of Samarra in northern Baquba after being bombarded due to sectarian violence in Iraq, a government statement said. The committee, comprised of high government officials, will supervise the rebuilding process of the shrines alongside developing the city in Salah al-Din province. The shrines bombardment last February came as a result of mounting sectarian violence in the capital Baghdad and other Iraqi provinces. Iraqi police has arrested the people responsible for the attacks, including Tunisian Yousri Fakher Mohammad, who later was executed after a month of indicting him before an Iraqi court.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [297 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Now we're talking!!
Posted by: KBK || 11/17/2006 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Chuck Simmins: If unconfirmed by the military, can you add a category for 'unconfirmed dead terrorists'? I like big numbers!
Posted by: Bobby || 11/17/2006 6:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Would there be an unbaptised catagory too ?
Posted by: wxjames || 11/17/2006 9:02 Comments || Top||

#4  They're only reporting 55 killed. The rest were arrested.

Do you suppose the foreigners get some extra special attention?

"Use the Craftsman pliers, Abu. They're rust resistant."
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/17/2006 9:18 Comments || Top||

#5  "Use the Craftsman pliers, Abu. They're rust resistant."

haha reminds me of my CDT teacher at school (yes i can still remember back that far) , first lesson in woodwork , never cut yourself and bleed on the tools , they rust ! those words echoed in my mind for years , and I have always been an adoring father of my toolkit
Posted by: MacNails || 11/17/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#6  These numbers seem to only represent those killed and arrested by the Iraqi police (national and local), and thus would not incorporate those taken by the Iraqi Army or Coalition forces.
Of course, a lot or the arrested or killed may have been innocent - or just 'guilty of being Sunni', given the history of the Interor department.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/17/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#7  Didn't they threaten recently that they had 10,000 ready, willing and able suicide bombers waiting at the helms?

Arresting/killing over 500 of these goons per week gets us on the fast track to taking down that number and quickly. Well, in only 20 weeks, we'll be outta there (/Donk bean counter)
Posted by: BA || 11/17/2006 14:00 Comments || Top||


Blast kills two civilians in Mosul, tomb blown up in Kirkuk
(KUNA) -- Two Iraqi civilians were killed Thursday in a bomb attack in Mosul, northern Iraq, police said. Iraqi Police sources told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) that an explosive device blew up targeting an Iraqi Police patrol, noting that the blast killed two civilians who were nearby the blast. Also, a civilian was abducted by masked gunmen in central Mosul, said the sources.

In Kirkuk, Iraqi Police sources told KUNA that unknown gunmen blew up the tomb of religious leader Ahmad Thiyab Al-Nuaimi in the area of Tarkalan in southern Kirkuk. The sources added that gunmen used huge quantities of explosives, leaving gross property damages in the tomb.

Meanwhile, about 1,000 Iraqi soldiers, packed by US air support, executed a wide-scale search operation in Zayton village and nearby areas southwest of Kirkuk based upon intelligence reports on the presence of gunmen in the area.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [287 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Blew up a tomb?

Gee, I hope nobody was killed.
Posted by: mojo || 11/17/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Tomb blasting is a trademark op of Zarqawi's old outfit (who's running it now?) That is, unless it was a 'work accident' by some of Mookie's boys.
Posted by: Glenmore || 11/17/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||


15 Iraqis kidnapped from cafe Baghdad
(KUNA) -- Fifteen Iraqi civilians were abducted form a popular cafe on Thursday night by unknown gunmen in the area of Bataween in central Baghdad, said security sources. Iraqi Police sources quoted witnesses as saying that the gunmen abducted the civilians by force to an unknown destination.

The incident comes two days after gunmen dressed in Commando forces uniform kidnapped over 100 employees and visitors from the Ministry of Higher Education, about 40 of them were released so far, while some of them were tortured and executed, according to witnesses. The security sources told Kuwait News Agency (KUNA) that the Ministry of Defense ordered to set up Iraqi Army checkpoints hours after reports on abducting a score of civilians in Al-Rabe' Street in western Baghdad. The sources added that the ministry ended the presence of military checkpoints to reduce traffic jams in the busy street, but decided to set them up again due to security breaches. Witnesses said that about 20 Shiite Iraqis were abducted from the Sunni-dominant Al-Rabe' Street during the past two days.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [284 views] Top|| File under:


Civilian convoy hijacked in Iraq
A convoy of civilians traveling near Nasiriyah, in southern Iraq, was hijacked, according to the Pentagon. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said Thursday that preliminary reports suggested there could be as many as 14 people captured and that the convoy included about 19 vehicles. He said he had no new details on the attack, adding that British forces were working with Iraqis to determine what happened. He would not say whether US forces were involved.

Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, a US military spokesman in Baghdad, confirmed that a convoy was attacked in the southern region of Iraq, but he also provided no other details. ABC News reported that four of the civilians captured were Americans and that the convoy was being operated by the Crescent Security Group.

A spokesman for the company contacted by The Associated Press said he could not provide any information until he was able to determine what happened. Italy formally handed over security responsibility of the southern Dhi Qar Province to Iraqi forces in late September, and British troops handed over control of the adjacent southern Muthana province in July.
Posted by: Fred || 11/17/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [296 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heavy air and ground activity in area. Brits have wacked at least two so far. One rescue?? based on Iraqi reports.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/17/2006 13:31 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel developing anti-militant "bionic hornet"
We mods don't have a pic of a 'bionic hornet' so we substitute this one.
JERUSALEM (Rooters) - Israel is using nanotechnology to try to create a robot no bigger than a hornet that would be able to chase, photograph and kill its targets, an Israeli newspaper reported on Friday.
Those darn Jooos are at it again! Dang them and their technology.
The flying robot, nicknamed the "bionic hornet," would be able to navigate its way down narrow alleyways to target otherwise unreachable enemies such as rocket launchers, the daily Yedioth Ahronoth said.
Let's hope Allen wants many of his followers to get "stung" by this hornet too.
It is one of several weapons being developed by scientists to combat militants, it said. Others include super gloves that would give the user the strength of a "bionic man" and miniature sensors to detect suicide bombers.

The research integrates nanotechnology into Israel's security department and will find creative solutions to problems the army has been unable to address, Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres told Yedioth Ahronoth.
Um, Deputy Prime Minister, sir, I'd bet you could find "creative solutions to problems" by just using the "absolutely crush and destroy them" approach and save money to boot!
"The war in Lebanon proved that we need smaller weaponry. It's illogical to send a plane worth $100 million against a suicidal terrorist. So we are building futuristic weapons," Peres said.
I'd argue you just don't need to listen to the U.N. and "the world".
Prototypes for the new weapons are expected within three years, he said.
Posted by: BA || 11/17/2006 10:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [429 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "..The war killed more than 1,200 Lebanese, mostly civilians."

This is the terrorist spin. It would be neutral accurate to say,

"in the war, more than 1200 Lebanese died, most of whom were identified by Hezbollah as civilians but many of whom were identified by other Lebanese as full time or part time Hezbollah soldiers or activists.
Posted by: mhw || 11/17/2006 11:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Bawwaaaaaa!

Run, It's no-see-ums!

/life just got worser
Posted by: Paleo || 11/17/2006 11:13 Comments || Top||

#3  And shorter, hopefully.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/17/2006 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Of course we are going to call it a bionic hornet. What do you expect us to call them? WASPS?
Posted by: Penguin || 11/17/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#5  LOL...

Good one Penguin.

This could be the biggest thread of the day. I'm waiting patiently for the Masters of Snark to weigh in....
Posted by: Mark Z || 11/17/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

#6  good name,

The word hornet (apprx tsirah or tsiraw in hebrew) is used in Deut 7:20. The hornet is prophetized to drive out one or more of the Caananite nations (a similar verse in Joshua 24:12 refers to Amorites).
Posted by: mhw || 11/17/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Talk about a sting operation! Can't you just hear the terrorists screaming, "RAAIIIID!"

Gotta agree with the others here. Save your money and research. Go Roman, save time and lives instead. The Palestinians deserve nothing less. All this surgical stuff is wasted when the situation calls for a meat grinder.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 12:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Prototypes for the new weapons are expected within three years, he said.

The question is whether or not Israel has three years to get to the prototypes.
Posted by: RWV || 11/17/2006 12:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Aluminum screening futures up a notch in lively trading.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/17/2006 13:25 Comments || Top||

#10  ... a robot no bigger than a hornet that would be able to chase, photograph and kill its targets

That's a clear violation of their Human Rights!!!
Posted by: Tranzis R us || 11/17/2006 13:57 Comments || Top||

#11  The 34-day war in Lebanon ended with a U.N.-brokered ceasefire in mid-August. The war killed more than 1,200 Lebanese, mostly civilians, and 157 Israelis, mostly soldiers.

Reported by Reuters, mostly liars.

Posted by: gromgoru || 11/17/2006 13:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Now they just need to arm it with the legendary Zionist Death Ray
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 11/17/2006 14:13 Comments || Top||

#13  Already workin' on it, Cheaderhead. In cooperation with the Zionist Death Ray Division here at corporate, of course.
Posted by: Halliburton - Zionist Bionic Insect Division || 11/17/2006 14:24 Comments || Top||

#14  It's a buzz bomb!
Posted by: Colin MacDougall || 11/17/2006 14:38 Comments || Top||

#15  How is this hornet sized drone going to carry "sneak" a bomb big enough to blow up a rocket launcher? They shoudl figure out a way to arm it with a gas of some kind and use it as an assasin.
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/17/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#16  How is this hornet sized drone going to carry "sneak" a bomb big enough to blow up a rocket launcher?

Pinpoint its location/paint it, and let a bomber do the actual job?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/17/2006 15:13 Comments || Top||

#17  They shoudl figure out a way to arm it with a gas of some kind and use it as an assasin.

The article may have been slightly ambiguous.

a robot no bigger than a hornet that would be able to chase, photograph and kill its targets, an Israeli newspaper reported on Friday.

The flying robot, nicknamed the "bionic hornet," would be able to navigate its way down narrow alleyways to target otherwise unreachable enemies such as rocket launchers, the daily Yedioth Ahronoth said.


When they say "rocket launchers", they are most likely referring to 'those who launch rockets'. I would foresee the use of poison darts or microcharges of extremely high explosives. A .50 calibre bullet is too heavy to put wings on.

Meanwhile, I predict a big surge in flyswatter sales.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 15:24 Comments || Top||

#18  This is going to create a bunch of great YouTube videos! I can just imagine the jihadis running, swatting, and squealing like little girls just before they get stung--and stung good!
Posted by: Dar || 11/17/2006 15:40 Comments || Top||

#19  How is this hornet sized drone going to carry "sneak" a bomb big enough to blow up a rocket launcher? They shoudl figure out a way to arm it with a gas of some kind and use it as an assasin.
Think metal earwick. It's a suicide bug.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 15:52 Comments || Top||

#20  Sharp point on one end, dives into the base of the skull at 60 miles an hour, micro plastique charge detonates 2/10s of a second after impact : medulla oblongata is destroyed, and the terrorist is dead.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 11/17/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||

#21  Does this make anyone else think of that scene in "Tommy Boy" when they are running around trying to convince the Cops that there is a swarm of bee's attacking them?

"Run for your lives!" "Your weapons are useless against them!"
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/17/2006 16:31 Comments || Top||

#22  Wasn't there a movie about 20 years ago that had several scenes of a guided bullet or miniature rocket that chased bad guys around corners and down narrow alleys? Or maybe the bad giys developed it and it chased the heroes. Betting there's a Rantburger who knows.
Posted by: GK || 11/17/2006 16:32 Comments || Top||

#23  Runaway, 1984, with Tom Selleck as the good guy, Gene Simmons as the villian.
Posted by: Bunyip || 11/17/2006 16:53 Comments || Top||

#24  The movie with the 'robot bullets' starred Tom Selleck as a cop specializing in dealing with 'bad robots'. The bad guy in the movie was played by long tongued KISS guitarist. Sorry don't remember the movie name.
Posted by: Steve || 11/17/2006 16:56 Comments || Top||

#25  If a hundred of these things converge on your neck simultaneously and detonate, they don't have to be very big.
Posted by: KBK || 11/17/2006 18:08 Comments || Top||

#26  Swarm would be pretty cool. That way you could give each a specific mission. Say one as the targeting unit and the other as the kill drone. It'd be nice to have such an option.

Two bee, or not two bee?
Posted by: Pappy || 11/17/2006 18:15 Comments || Top||

#27  Lots of images of robot insects here

Unfortunately Berkeley's best images only work with M$Exploder
Posted by: 3dc || 11/17/2006 18:46 Comments || Top||

#28  It'd be nice if there was an option to dart with a paralytic agent. Temporarily disable everyone in the room then swoop in to collect the big falafel for extended deep frying.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 19:26 Comments || Top||

#29  How is this hornet sized drone going to carry "sneak" a bomb big enough to blow up a rocket launcher?

Swarm it.

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 11/17/2006 19:58 Comments || Top||

#30  #s 23 & 24. Thanks Steve and Bunyip. Maybe the Israelis like fantasy movies too. If Chester Gould can foresee cell phones and telepictures,
with Dick Tracy's wrist radio and TV, why not steerable explosive bullets or bionic hornets?
Posted by: GK || 11/17/2006 19:59 Comments || Top||

#31  How is this hornet sized drone going to carry "sneak" a bomb big enough to blow up a rocket launcher?

Even the power required to "paint" a larger target would quickly drain an insect-sized drone's power reserve. Same goes for coordinate broadcasting, which could also be jammed. Remember, these little puppies may be driven by biomechanical chemical propulsion and not have much electrical storage.

A simple solution would be to have the planes of their wing surfaces laminated with a highly reflective diffraction grating which interacts in the NIR (Near InfraRed) or another invisible spectral region that "sparkles" when painted with target acquisition lasers. Just a thought.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 20:17 Comments || Top||

#32  Hornets don't need bombs -- they have poison darts.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/17/2006 20:19 Comments || Top||

#33  Poisons violate the Geneva Conventions, explosives and projectiles do not. So sharp hardened tip with micro plastique charge keeps you out of the ICC.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 11/17/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#34  However they do it, it gives a new meaning to the killer bee.
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/17/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

#35  The Geneva Conventions deal with Clausewitz Western type armed warfare.

Modern 4G and 3rd world warfare doesn't fit Clausewitz type war and therefore Geneva is obsolete.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/17/2006 22:44 Comments || Top||

#36  One more time;

THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS DO NOT APPLY TO TERRORISTS.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/17/2006 23:31 Comments || Top||

#37  I agree. I doubt you'd find a RBer that disagrees. The law is what it is, and it DOESN'T apply to insurgents/terrorists in uniformed cadres
Posted by: Frank G || 11/17/2006 23:47 Comments || Top||


IDF Taking Limited Action to Reduce Kassam Attacks
by Alex Traiman

The IDF destroyed four buildings overnight in anti-terror operations in Gaza. Defense Minister Amir Peretz has ordered the IDF to prepare plans to slow, but not eliminate Kassam rocket fire.

The air force struck buildings in Rafah, Beit Lahiya, Jabalya and Khan Yunis before Friday morning, in response to a recent onslaught of Kassam rocket attacks on the Israeli cities of Sderot and Ashkelon which left one dead, and two others in serious condition.

According to the IDF, three of the destroyed buildings were being used as Hamas weapons storage facilities, while the fourth was a weapons production facility belonging to Islamic Jihad. Warnings were given to the local populations prior to the aerial attacks.

Peretz has ordered the IDF to prepare plans to reduce the number of rockets being fired into Israeli towns, calling the current situation unacceptable. “We are continuing our policy of pressure on the South,” Peretz stated Thursday. The defense minister said, however, that he does not believe the IDF will successfully put an end to rocket attacks, adding that a limited number of attacks will be an acceptable reality.

Residents of Sderot are calling on the government to order the IDF to bring a complete halt to the ongoing rocket attacks into Israeli population centers. Two additional Kassams pounded Sderot Friday morning.

Sderot Mayor Eli Moyal told the media this week that the city’s residents are strong and will endure, “but this does not release the government from its basic responsibilities, to protect its citizens.”

An IDF Spokesperson this morning stated, “The IDF will continue to act with determination in order to defend the citizens of the State of Israel, and will continue to employ all means at its disposal to combat terrorists and their supporters, in order to uphold the security of the citizens of Israel.”

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told reporters Thursday, “There is no doubt that the attacks yesterday in Sderot and Ashkelon were difficult.” However, Olmert claims, there is no “quick fix” to halt rocket attacks from Gaza, stating, “there is not one thing you can do and the Kassam attacks will stop.”

Both Olmert and Peretz told reporters that the Palestinian Authority is the only body which can completely cease all Kassam attacks. Olmert says he expects greater action from PA chairman Mahmoud Abbas, adding that the PA could stop rocket attacks if it had the will.

Environment Minister Gideon Ezra, who previously served as Minister of Public Security and deputy head of the GSS countered late Thursday afternoon that the way to stop the Kassam rocket attacks from Gaza is for Israel to temporarily suspend all military operations in the area.

“There is a need to stop the fighting for a limited time and gauge how the Palestinians will react,” Ezra stated. “If they don’t adhere to our conditions, we will flatten the Strip."

Peretz stated in a meeting with Shin Bet General Security Services director Yuval Diskin, and IDF Chief of Staff Dan Halutz that he is awaiting internal changes within the PA that would strengthen moderates who could prevent the continued rocket fire.

“If this doesn’t happen,” according to Peretz, “Israel will deal a painful and heavy blow to the terrorists.”
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/17/2006 09:12 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [290 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Although the Kassam's are manufactured in the Gaza, the IDF now believes that, for the longer range versions, some of the components are brought in from outside Gaza.

Closing off the tunnels would eliminate this problem but, there is no good way to close off all tunnels.

The Env minister's solution (truce) would give Hamas a chance to preplace a huge number of weapons. It might be that the IDF has sufficient intel to locate most of them but, almost certainly not all of them.
Posted by: mhw || 11/17/2006 9:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Can't eliminate malaria by swatting individual mosquitoes---got to drain the swamp.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/17/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#3  "IDF Taking Limited Action" Again.
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/17/2006 21:43 Comments || Top||


Tulkarm: IDF seeks fugitive with 'blood on hands'
IDF troops from the elite Duvdevan undercover unit, along with troops from the Nahshon Battalion, where operating in the West Bank town of Tulkarm Thursday evening to capture an Aksa Martyrs Brigades fugitive, who according to the IDF has "blood on his hands." According to Israel Radio, the IDF ordered in a bulldozer, which was ramming the outer walls of the building in which the fugitive was hiding. During the ongoing operation troops shot a Palestinian youth in the legs after he rolled a burning tire towards the troops.
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#1  I'll bet he thinks twice before he tries that one again.
Posted by: gorb || 11/17/2006 3:23 Comments || Top||

#2  "blood on his hands."
I'm not certain, but I think that's IDF speak for Ends-of-the-Earth Spetznatisa Action.

Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 3:57 Comments || Top||


Peretz orders reinforcement of Sderot structures
Defense Minister Amir Peretz ordered the IDF Home Front Command to speed up the construction of reinforced roofs for schools and public institutions in Sderot. Peretz specifically ordered the IDF to reinforce the Sderot welfare center which provides assistance to residents suffering from shock following Kassam attacks.
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Bombs kill one, wound 27, in Thai Muslim south
Three bombs went off in Muslim southern Thailand on Friday, killing one person and wounding 27, in an apparent response by separatist militants to Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont's peace visit the previous day.

Police said the first bomb, a 15 kg (33 lb) device hidden in a fire extinguisher, hit a Humvee carrying five soldiers in Narathiwat, one of the three southernmost provinces where more than 1,800 people have been killed since January 2004. The second and third bombs were detonated by mobile phones around an hour later at a tea shop and in a nearby street in the provincial capital of the same name. One person was killed and 22 people were wounded, police said.

Since his appointment by the army after a September coup against Thaksin Shinawatra, Surayud has launched a major peace drive in the Muslim-majority, Malay-speaking region. He has apologised for Thaksin's iron fist approach and stated a desire for talks with the rebels.

The suspected Muslim separatists, who have never made their goals public or claimed responsibility for any attacks, appear to be responding with coordinated bomb attacks and an increase in violence against civilians. Bombs exploded almost simultaneously at eight car and motorcycle showrooms on Nov. 9, the day after Surayud's previous visit to the region, which used to be the independent sultanate of Pattani until annexed by Bangkok a century ago.

Analysts said the militants appeared to be sending a message to the former army chief, who commands wide respect in all parts of Thailand, including the southern provinces bordering Malaysia, not to get involved. "Surayud presents a far greater threat to the militants than anybody else," said Brian Dougherty of Bangkok-based security consultants Hill and Associates. "They probably enjoyed having Thaksin because he was universally hated in the south, whereas Surayud is welcomed and liked. They cannot allow his programmes, his new approach, to be effective," he said.

Since September, the month of Thaksin's removal, Dougherty said the daily violence was claiming almost three times as many civilians victims as before, a clear indication of a shift in tactics. In one week alone, 90 percent of casualties were civilian, the remaining 10 percent being described as "officials" -- anything from soldiers and border police to village volunteers and local government bureaucrats.

"Insurgent groups are targeting civilians to show their power and highlight the Thai government's weakness," said Brad Adams of New York-based Human Rights Watch. "But it's illegal and morally indefensible to attack civilians in pursuit of political goals."
Posted by: Grotch Flaviling7365 || 11/17/2006 01:40 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [302 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "But it's illegal and morally indefensible to attack civilians in pursuit of political goals."

Must be fund-raising time for HRW again.

Posted by: Pappy || 11/17/2006 9:35 Comments || Top||


Good morning
5 Pakistanis accused of marriage fraud in USPeretz orders reinforcement of Sderot structuresMoroccan convicted over 9/11 plot20 die in Khyber Agency clashMore than 500 gunmen killed, arrested in Iraq last weekIndonesian black magic practitioner casts hex on BushJesuit magazine slams religious intolerance in Pakistan
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#1  B&W Print
Aluminum Age Aqua Art.
Note shinyEness on the horizontal love object.
Some evidence of Shoo Cultur
cc 1952

Posted by: Shipman || 11/17/2006 3:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Shipman!? I ain't gotta clue whatchoo tawkin' 'bout, dude.

Anyway, nice accessories next to the board thingy.
Posted by: Almost Anonymous5839 || 11/17/2006 16:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Her son Tony became a wonderful baseball player.
Posted by: Malone || 11/17/2006 17:43 Comments || Top||



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