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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Why Did Leon Black Pay Jeffrey Epstein $50 Million?

[ZeroHedge] Billionaire Leon Black gave his longtime pal Jeffrey Epstein $50 million dollars after the deceased financier got out of prison for pedophilia.

The transfer of funds was made in at least two payments, one of which Deutsche Bank flagged as unusual, according to the New York Times, citing 'two people familiar with the matter.'

Epstein served as a director on the Leon Black Family Foundation for over a decade, and also accepted a $10 million donation for his Gratitude America foundation from Black's "BV70 LLC" charity.

"It is true that I paid Mr Epstein millions of dollars annually for his work," said Black in a Monday letter responding to the Times report. "It also is worth noting that all of Mr Epstein’s advice was vetted by leading auditors, law firms and other professional advisors" Black added - noting that he had 'once' picnicked on Epstein's private island with his family, and that he visited the dead pedophile 'from time to time' at his Manhattan townhouse.

Black's spokeswoman claims the two stopped communicating after a "fee dispute" in 2018, and that Black "deeply regrets having any involvement with him."

"There has never been an allegation by anyone, including The New York Times, that Mr Black engaged in any wrongdoing or inappropriate conduct," she added.

In August, US Virgin Islands attorney general Denise N. George notified a local court that she would issue civil subpoenas to Black, founder of Apollo Global Management, as well as several entities he's tied to. The subpoenas sought financial statements and tax returns - including those for Black Family Partners and Elysium Management - which oversee some of Black's $9 billion fortune.

Black and his entities paid millions in fees to Epstein's "Southern Trust Company," which he established in the Virgin Islands in 2013, according to the Times.

Other subpoenas will go to Apollo as well as entities that help manage Black's extensive art collection, according to an August report in the Times. It is unclear whether those subpoenas have been issued.

In a 2019 letter to Apollo investors, Black claimed to have had a "limited relationship" with Epstein (who managed his family's foundation), and was "completely unaware" of conduct claimed in new allegations against the pedophile.

$50 million seems like a lot for someone he had a "limited relationship" with, while it remains unclear exactly what services Epstein performed for such a princely sum. The question everyone wants - or needs - answered, is just why did one of Wall Street's all-powerful billionaires who is surrounded by the biggest financial brains in the world 24/7, pay an outsider for financial advice. We hope, but doubt, that Black will answer this question outside of a court of law.
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6475 views] Top|| File under:

#1  what's her name?
Posted by: Chuckles Craick1474 || 10/13/2020 0:33 Comments || Top||

#2  It was preferable than going to prison.
Posted by: Ebbising Hupoth8296 || 10/13/2020 1:21 Comments || Top||

#3  More than likely simple money laundering. I'd wager Mr. Black didn't know what the funding was for either.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2020 4:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Was it deductible?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 7:40 Comments || Top||


Seven months pregnant woman, 22, dies along with her unborn daughter after her 'friend forcibly cut the baby from her womb
  • [Daily Mail, Where America Gets Its News] Reagan Hancock, 22, was found dead at her home in New Boston, Texas, on Friday, by her mother

  • She was 7 months pregnant but her unborn daughter had been cut from her womb

  • Police have arrested a woman they say knew Reagan but the suspect has not been named

  • She was taken into custody 45 miles from Reagan's home after reportedly taking the baby - which also died - to a hospital in Idabel, Oklahoma
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I hate these stories about a crazy woman who cuts a baby out of an acquaintenance's womb. Gruesome.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/13/2020 1:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Insanity is genderless.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 8:45 Comments || Top||


-Obits-
Joe Morgan passed on at 77
[Breitbart] Joe Morgan, the Hall of Fame second baseman who became the sparkplug of the Big Red Machine and the prototype for baseball’s artificial turf era, has died. He was 77.

He died at his home Sunday in Danville, California, family spokesman James Davis said in statement Monday. Morgan was suffering from a nerve condition, a form of polyneuropathy.

Morgan’s death marked the latest among major league greats this year: Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Lou Brock, Tom Seaver and Al Kaline.

Morgan was a two-time NL Most Valuable Player, a 10-time All-Star and won five Gold Gloves. A 5-foot-7 dynamo known for flapping his left elbow at the plate, Little Joe could hit a home run, steal a base and disrupt any game with his daring.

Most of all, he completed Cincinnati’s two-time World Series championship team, driving a club featuring the likes of Pete Rose, Johnny Bench and Tony Perez to back-to-back titles.

Morgan’s tiebreaking single with two outs in the ninth inning of Game 7 in 1975 gave the Reds the crown in a classic matchup with Boston, and he spurred a four-game sweep of the Yankees the next season.

Morgan was the league’s MVP both years. And his Hall of Fame teammates and manager readily acknowledged he was the one that got it all started.

The smallest cog in the Big Red Machine was its most valuable piece, and easily a first-ballot pick for Cooperstown.

“He was just a good major league player when it didn’t mean anything,” former Reds and Tigers skipper Sparky Anderson once said. “But when it meant something, he was a Hall of Famer.”
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  RIP, Joe. I liked his style doing commentary with Papa Buck.
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  We left Danville (nice town really) around 7 years ago for Beautiful Boise. Joe found a creative and permanent way to escape CA.
Posted by: Warthog || 10/13/2020 11:45 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
City of Spies trailer
Should at a minimum be worth the investment of T&M.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2020 08:49 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought Vienna was the city of spies. If that was Vienna, I didn't see anything that looked Viennese...o.k., well, maybe the parking garage.
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 12:48 Comments || Top||


Huge explosion reported in Huizhou, China
[Twitter]
Location
Huizhou is headquarters of the 42nd Group Army of the People's Liberation Army, one of the two group armies that comprise the Guangzhou Military Region responsible for the defense of China's southern coast and its border with Vietnam.

Posted by: 3dc || 10/13/2020 00:20 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6465 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Weapons depot spontaneously exploding seems to be the usual thing in Third World countries. Or neglected fertilizer/chemicals storage reaches chemical tipping point, like in Beirut Port. Or exposed electrical wire combined with a leaking gas line....

So many possibilities, including enemy action.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 8:48 Comments || Top||

#2  ....or disposal of unreliables.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2020 8:54 Comments || Top||

#3  ^No. It's the same reason they've let a lethal virus escape their labs - cutting too many corners.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 8:56 Comments || Top||

#4  CCCP News - 'It was an explosion at a fortune cookie factory.'
Posted by: Raj || 10/13/2020 9:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Haven't heard of any recent kabooms in Persia, lately.

Perhaps they've quit reporting them.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/13/2020 9:55 Comments || Top||

#6  CCCP News - 'It was an explosion at a fortune cookie factory.'

"You're numbers are: 5, 4, 3, 2, 1,"
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 10:52 Comments || Top||

#7  Just file clackel, loundeyes...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2020 11:43 Comments || Top||

#8  This explosion isn't that big.

It looks to be a in a shopping area, not a military base.
Posted by: Muggsy Hapsburg5230 || 10/13/2020 15:00 Comments || Top||


Texas Republican who called COVID a 'scamdemic' organized family party that ended up killing his father-in-law, his partner's grandmother and leaving him close to death in hospital
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Tony Green, 43, from Dallas, threw the gathering for six people on June 13

  • Within days Green and his relatives began feeling poorly, he said in a Op-Ed

  • Weeks later the virus had 'torn up his family' after 14 of them fell ill and two died

  • Green said he himself became so ill he was eventually hospitalized with doctors

  • He was joined in the hospital by his father in law, Rafael Ceja, and his partner's grandmother; they both later died of the virus, Green confirmed
Statistically speaking, it had to happen to somebody.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6467 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Old Russian saying "Stupidity is not a crime, but it is a capital offense".
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 2:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Can we see how many people who are lockdown fanatics have lost relatives to say cancer and all the other diseases killing far more people than COVID every day.

I wonder have the daily COVID deaths caught up to FLU deaths.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2020 5:00 Comments || Top||

#3  For What Its Worth...
Strange the C-19 singled out this high profile Anti C-19 Virus Gay couple and related older family isn't it.

Having read Mr. Greens submitted written OPT-ED
See: https://dallasvoice.com/a-harsh-lesson-in-the-reality-of-covid-19/

I find the whole CNN/WAPO/FB pushed story questionable and reading more like an attempt to write a C-19 support agenda piece.

Just my opinion...
Posted by: NN2N1 || 10/13/2020 5:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Some Israeli doctors are quite critical of "covid sceptics" - but what do they know?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 5:27 Comments || Top||

#5  And many Israeli top virologists and epidemiologists have signed the Great Barrington Declaration. The above piece is, well, fake news.
Posted by: Angereng Glotch9200 || 10/13/2020 8:50 Comments || Top||

#6  I provided a link. Angereng provided a ???
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 8:54 Comments || Top||

#7  From NN2N1’s link:

my partner and I hosted family members on Saturday, June 13. On Sunday, June 14, I woke up sick.

By Monday, June 15, my partner and my parents were all sick. That same Monday, my in-laws traveled to witness the birth of their first grandchild. They took with them my father-in-law’s mother and one of my partner’s sisters. That night my father-in-law became ill. Then my mother-in-law and their daughter began feeling sick. So they cut their trip short.

Two days later, my father-in-law’s mother got sick. The new mommy and daddy got sick, too. We all tested positive for COVID-19. Only the newborn was spared.


The timing is not really emphasized in the Daily Mail article, but doesn’t the Rona have a two week incubation period? I would be interested to know if the entire family came down with the same strain, and if there had been any contact between various members in the two weeks before the dinner.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 8:55 Comments || Top||

#8  but doesn’t the Rona have a two week incubation period?

According to Chinese July paper The incubation period of COVID-19, which is the time between exposure to the virus and symptom onset, is on average 5-6 days, but can be as long as 14 days.

According to wordometer incubation period of COVID-19 is 2 - 14 days.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 9:09 Comments || Top||

#9  The salmon mousse.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 11:01 Comments || Top||

#10  #3 and #7 - I like to try to read the original article, not somebody's interpretation thereof.

Perhaps I'll go read the op-ed, to see if treatments were discussed.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/13/2020 11:14 Comments || Top||

#11  Oooooh, someone provided a link to a fake news article, I'm so impressed!
Posted by: Angereng Glotch9200 || 10/13/2020 11:15 Comments || Top||

#12  Mr. Green is in agony, because he believes it is his fault. Maybe it is, and maybe it's not.

As TW suggests (#7), perhaps some contact tracing is in order.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/13/2020 11:17 Comments || Top||

#13  https://gbdeclaration.org/
Posted by: Angereng Glotch9200 || 10/13/2020 15:01 Comments || Top||

#14  It's interesting that" (a) he's described as a Republican but doesn't hold office. Just a Republican voter which isn't really relevant to the article. The irony of his being a denier is what is relevant (b) he's described as gay. Its mentioned so matter-of-factly that I found it interesting.

Also one can feel the Covid is real, but the hysteria has turned it into a Scamdemic without being inconsistent at all.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 17:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Its like the third Batman where Scarecrow and Bane are trying to run the show.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 18:19 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Tanzania's iconic Mt. Kilimanjaro on fire
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6469 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It will be bad for Tanzanian coffee (a lot grown on that mountain) The other side of the mountain is Kenya so some of their coffee is grown there too.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/13/2020 6:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Two to five more years of cooling climate....
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 8:56 Comments || Top||


#4  There goes my porter job for the next climbing season.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2020 9:16 Comments || Top||

#5  E.Hemingway did not immediately respond to email request for comment.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 11:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Bes -- were you climbing the eastern peak or western?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/13/2020 14:09 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Latin America’s COVID-19 cases exceed 10 million
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6464 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well, as long as they preserve their economies by avoiding lockdowns ...
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 8:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Are you really delusional enough to think Latin America is wealthy enough weather a lockdown, whether or not they wanted to perform one? Lockdowns are expensive. Quarantines are expensive. Latin America is largely extremely poor to moderately poor. Tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of death likely is "cheaper" to society than a lockdown in the situations of most third-world nations.
Posted by: Vernal Hatrick || 10/13/2020 13:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Vernal, your argument hinges on the assumption that recovered become immune. As I discussed before, this don't seems to be be the case for covid 19 (or any other coronavirus). Moreover, there seems to be long term debilitating effects to covid 19 - including in people who had a relatively easy bout of disease. So can Latin America adjust to a substantial fraction of the population being disabled at any given time? To all activities having a chance to cause being disabled or dead (much higher where then in US)?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 14:19 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Kyrgyzstan's ex-President Atambayev detained by special police forces
[ARMENPRESS.AM] Former Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambayev was detained by special police forces, the headquarters of the Social-Democratic Party
...every time you hear the phrase white people, white supremacy, white anything but paint, you're listening to a Democrat. Ask him/her/it to reimagine something for you; they do that a lot, though not well. They can hear a dog whistle a mile or two away. They invented the spoils system and Tammany Hall, and inspired the addition of the word (Thomas) Nasty to the English language. They want to stop continental drift and repeal the law of unintended side effects...
told TASS.

"Atambayev has been detained and now a measure of restraint is being chosen for the ex-president", the headquarters said.

Atambayev was detained as part of a new criminal case into organizing mass riots, the republic’s National Security Committee said in response to an inquiry from the news agency 24.kg.
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EU prepares to add Belarus leader to sanctions list
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6461 views] Top|| File under:


End Crimean annexation, Poland and Ukraine tell Russia
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]
Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6465 views] Top|| File under:

#1  90% of the Crimeans wanted to be part of Russia, so why not? It's more Russian than Ukrainian by a long shot...like about half of Ukraine anyway.
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Bearbaiting again?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 2:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Crimea became part of Ukranai when ukranian Khroutchov dec ided to add it to the Soviet Republic of Urkenia. It had never been ukranian before. Even in pre-mongolic times the Rus' of KLiev only owned half of it.

There ia case for an independent Crimea, there is a case for a russian Crimea, there is non for an ukranian Crimea
Posted by: JFM || 10/13/2020 13:30 Comments || Top||

#4  JFM, for the opinion piece you submitted, Statistics and the US elections , did you forget the link or is it your personal opinion? Both are welcome, as it is well-argued, but if you got it somewhere else we need a link.

Merci beaucoup!
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 13:33 Comments || Top||


Europe
Hundreds evacuated as Polish divers begin five-day operation to defuse 12,000lb RAF Tallboy 'earthquake' bomb used to attack Nazi warship in 1945
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 09:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It went boom.


Posted by: Theager Borgia1057 || 10/13/2020 19:01 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
ACB confirmation video FYI and sharing (bonus vids as well)
Watch Amy Coney Barrett’s Supreme Court nomination hearing live.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2020 09:11 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Someone just asked Barrett to hold up her notes. She did, and it was a blank pad. Which brings to mind the old adage that most cross-examinations are suicidal rather than homicidal.
Posted by: Matt || 10/13/2020 14:25 Comments || Top||

#2  And Lindsay Graham, bless his heart, did a great job of keeping his mouth shut while Senator Whitehouse was making a convincing case for the value of anti-psychotic medications. "This presentation was brought to you by the makers of Haldol."
Posted by: Matt || 10/13/2020 14:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Someone just asked Barrett to hold up her notes. She did, and it was a blank pad.

As opposed to Plugz who can barely read his 'prompters, and Harris-Ho who has yet to learn how to read aloud from her prompter in a less obvious way.

ACB is a (humble) intellectual giant surrounded by insolent, arrogant little pygmies who have nothing to be arrogant about.
Posted by: Throlump Sning3282 || 10/13/2020 14:58 Comments || Top||

#4  She refused to discuss cases that are or are going to be before the supreme Court. That is standard procedure for judges even though Dims keep pushing her to do so. This is how you respond when being interrogated by the enemy. She is a very cool and stoic.
Posted by: Vespasian Ebbereng3110 || 10/13/2020 20:02 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Prime suspect Motorway rape case Abid Malhi arrested from Faisalabad
The prime suspect in the motorway rape case has been arrested a month after being on the run from the police.

Abid Malhi is being taken to Lahore, the police said. He was arrested in Faisalabad. His accomplice, Shafqat, is already in police custody.

A woman was raped in front of her children by two unidentified men on the Lahore-Sialkot motorway on September 9. The case has rattled the country and reignited the debate on whether capital punishment should be fixed for rapists or not.

Entire police force of the province had been searching for him since he went into hiding and teams were busy in reconnaissance to find out his hiding place.

They said police also conducted several raids at residences of his relatives and close friends who had been in frequent contact with Abid.

Abid had escaped arrest on multiple occasions during police teams’ raids in Kasur, Sheikhhupura, Nankana Sahib and other areas of the province, sources further revealed.

Malhi’s DNA test had been obtained thrice from the motorway rape victim’s samples. However, his DNA test will be taken again and matched with the samples from the motorway rape victim’s before any formal proceedings against him are initiated.

The motorway rape case’s prime suspect had managed to evade arrest four times by escaping the clutches of the Punjab police ever since he has been on the run.

An anti-terrorism court sent the co-suspect in the motorway gang-rape case, Shafqat, to judicial lockup for 14 days and directed the jail authorities to hold his identification parade under special arrangements.

Narrating the horrific incident, the accused, Shafqat, told investigators that they were intoxicated at the time of the incident and initially planned to commit a robbery. Abid smashed the glasses of the vehicle and injured his hand in the process, he said adding that after looting the victim they decided to sexually assault her.

Posted by: Fred || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Haredi sector makes up over half of elderly virus patients in Israel
[YNet] - Over half of the elderly coronavirus patients in Israel hail from the ultra-Orthodox Jewish sector, almost four times their relative part in the population, the Health Ministry said Tuesday.

The ministry said 3,266 out of 6,061 current active elderly patients across the country, constituting 52%, are from the ultra-Orthodox sector. Of the 587 elderly patients who are currently in serious condition, 88 are ultra-Orthodox, making up 15%.
G*d told their top Rabbis to go for Herd Immunity. That is, either G*d doesn't understand immunology, or He doesn't actually talks to Haredi rabbis. I wonder what's the correct answer?
The ministry's latest virus figures also show a decline in contagion rate, which now stands at 7%. On Monday, of 47,136 tests conducted, 3,097 came back positive.
It was 13% before lockdown - good thing we know (been told by world-famous epidemiology/immunology experts) that lockdowns don't work. Otherwise I'd be tempted to calculate that, since false positive (approx) 5% and true possitive is (approx) 95%, we went from 9.8% infected to 2.2% after 3 weeks of (fairly loose) lockdown.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 08:22 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6462 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Over half is nuts. And that in a population more strongly skewed toward the young than the generality of Israelis.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 13:42 Comments || Top||

#2  The reason I post this staff is not because I think the majority here interested. But because I'm tired of reading "De Blasio is an Anti-Semite: he oppresses the Haredim in NYC". Well, Bibi oppresses (to listen to them) Haredim in Bnei Brak. And, when he's back in the government (I hope), Naftali Benet - who is a religious Jew - will really oppress them.

‘Renegade’ haredi communities need to be brought to heel, rabbi says

Yeshiva head: Police violence? Not enough of it
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 14:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Israel has infection per million rate about 50% greater than the US but a fatality per million rate about 60% lower than US.

I think this may be because of more aggressive pre hospital protocols and because the population is, on the average younger, and also possibly because the sunlight is stronger (more natural D).
Posted by: Lord Garth || 10/13/2020 17:02 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Unmanned US 'spy ship' powered by solar energy and designed to avoid detection is found off the coast of Scotland
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • A £300,000 Wave Glider-style boat was found on the coast of Tiree, west Scotland

  • Wave Gliders are used by the US and British navies but it has not been claimed

  • But the Russian Navy developed a near-clone of the Wave Glider called Fugu in 2016
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 08:21 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6463 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Business development opportunity? Anyone have Elon's private number ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/13/2020 9:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Looks like the 'avoid detection' mark got missed.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/13/2020 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  "It is not yet clear whether the boat found in Scotland was a Wave Glider or a Fugu."
So, it could easily be Russian (Fugu), but we'll blame the US out of habit.
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/13/2020 10:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Went to Boeing/Liquid Robotics links and the image is. a dead ringer for the surface portion of the Wave Glider. Location off Scotland can reflect marine fisheries research or that pesky submarine route into the Atlantic from northern climes.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/13/2020 11:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Aside from fisheries research, it is frequent practice in the US Navy to station an attack submarine at a sub base 'sally point', to check whether passing boats are making new or excessive noise.
On this side of the pond, usually done at King's Bay, GA or Bangor, WA. But then, there's been multiple sightings of the Jimmy Carter (SSN23) up there, with the 'spec ops' sub at Faslane and at a couple of Norwegian bases, and the Norskes have reactivated a 'cave' base up north.
(The Carter is the last of the Seawolfs, stretched 100feet to accomidate seal stuff, amd Tomahawks and such.)
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/13/2020 15:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Will it show up on ebay?
Posted by: Clese Sneart7857 || 10/13/2020 15:43 Comments || Top||


-PC Follies
NBA Game 6 Finals - Now With Even Fewer Fans!
I think I watched about three minutes of the entire series. At least with the fuckin' Lakers winning # 17, it'll be with an asterisk.
[Zero Hedge] - The last game of the NBA Finals - arguably the most important game of any NBA season - posted ratings that were about 66% lower than last year's Game 6, according to Breitbart. It is the latest bad news in a stunning collapse in ratings for the league and, specifically, for the NBA Finals series this year.

For comparison, Sunday night's Seahawks versus Vikings regular season NFL game, featuring one team that hasn't won a game all year, had nearly twice the views of the game where LeBron James clinched his fourth NBA Championship, according to ShowBuzzDaily.

Recall, just days ago we noted that "Player Protests/Politics" were cited as a driving force as to why people were abandoning watching the NBA. In a recent poll on Yahoo Sports with 22,266 responses, people were asked why they thought the NBA's ratings had dropped off. Player protests/politics was the overwhelming favorite, at 61%, as to why people are turning away from the NBA.
Most of those people will turn away permanently. I'd love to have a bug in the NBA Commissioner's office - they're surely in full-blown panic mode right now.
Posted by: Raj || 10/13/2020 09:47 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, but the big names still hauled in their millions and the entire league has a valuation in the billions. That can unfortunately go on for some time before they notice there are no fans.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2020 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  At some point (maybe it's happened already) the owners, not getting gate or concession revenue, are gonna put a lot of pressure on the league office. That's the immediate effect; when TV revenues take a hit, then it'll be a complete shitshow.
Posted by: Raj || 10/13/2020 10:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Fans?? We don't need no steenkin' fans!!
Posted by: AlanC || 10/13/2020 10:28 Comments || Top||

#4  They'll still rake in the Chinese money, at least for a while.

May be time for the Feds -- if we had worthwhile ones-- to treat the NBA as the influence agent of a foreign power.
Posted by: charger || 10/13/2020 10:40 Comments || Top||

#5  IIRC the TV contract is coming up in a year or two. With declining viewership comes reduced offered $$
Posted by: Frank G || 10/13/2020 11:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Someone should ask Bron Bron his opinion about the NBA cancelling the BLM stuff to secure the China TV contract.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 12:01 Comments || Top||

#7  ^He made his bundle, what does he care?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 12:08 Comments || Top||

#8  /\ And with LeBron being in L.A., he's all set up for a career in Hollywood. Perhaps the Sorides paradox is at play here with his "bundle".
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 12:42 Comments || Top||

#9  Because the man-child can't help himself.

In the latest soccer-flop, Bron Bron walked off the court because he was not having his way.

You may have a point; good time for him to retire.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 12:47 Comments || Top||

#10  There was a time there when it looked like he was going to tack towards politics under a BLM sail.

Perhaps my question now, before Governor James?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 13:05 Comments || Top||

#11  well the reason people aren't watching is because they're all cooped up in their houses working from home...

Oh... The figures should be much higher lol.

I wonder what is being watched instead...
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2020 13:07 Comments || Top||

#12  NBA already announced next season they'd be non-political on the court. Question is, will fans return to see or did they leave in disgust for good. I'm betting a bit of each.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 13:45 Comments || Top||

#13  A lot of people are discovering now that they don't need professional sports in their lives and never did in the first place.
Posted by: Muggsy Hapsburg5230 || 10/13/2020 14:06 Comments || Top||

#14  ..tribes are being picked. Fandom was just a subset. Now with higher stakes, the population is looking elsewhere.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2020 15:56 Comments || Top||

#15  Although I wish for zero fan attendance and zero TV viewership, things go in cycles. The fans will eventually come back. The sooner the NBA (top to bottom) knocks off the BLM/PRC/PC egesta, the sooner things will recover. Goes for all [pro] sports, especially the National Felons League.
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 16:20 Comments || Top||

#16  I wonder what is being watched instead...

Movies and series on NetFlicks and Amazon Prime, and all sorts of videos on YouTube. So a different set of Progressives is getting the advertising dollars.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/13/2020 21:07 Comments || Top||

#17  The really sad part is sports united religions and races. I guess that's why the left had to destroy them.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 21:49 Comments || Top||

#18  /\ And the military?
Posted by: Clem || 10/13/2020 22:28 Comments || Top||

#19  It has been mentioned a number of times before, how someone at one location looking up something while internet shopping, an ad shows up on another device with a similar ad.

It is my belief, and I think with plenty of anecdotal evidence, that with the modern entertainment delivery devices, that those service (and any lamprey spies if you will) know exactly who is watching what, and said demographics and habits of who.

While that may be a ton of information, the spreadsheet, and therefore analysis, is relatively simple.

This Macromedia Data is therefore available, especially for those who want to cooperate or negotiate prices. For a $billion business structure to not at least pay attention, as a medical patient is hooked up to a number of sensors such as EKG, would be woefully ignorant.

They know.

The study of consumer habits is as auld as commerce itself; the modern example would be why grocery stores have milk and perishable on the far side of the store so consumers walk the aisle.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 23:10 Comments || Top||

#20  Say I am a basketball fan, and huge fan of Bron making a mark in its history.

Say I miss a live game, and want to know why Bron walked off the court before the game was over, and I want to know why.

So I stream the game, maybe skipping the advertisements (noted by the matrix), and watch over whatever criteria counts as "watching the game".

That is all noted. Members can adjust accordingly; did so-and-so watch what commercials? Does their online activity match what our advertising strategy is? Whatever best matches the ultimate Supply vs. Demand perimeters necessary vs. a 1/3/5 year plan.

Remember this is a big 'B' $Billions on the line; tickets/advertising/(space balls voice) mechandising....consumer behavior.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 23:20 Comments || Top||

#21  So let's talk experiences at a restaurant.

I know I've had a favorite restaurant, especially when I was young and dating.

Good and OK experiences were the norm.

Have one bad experience at a restaurant, and see yea.

That is what is going on here. Under New Management, Under New Chef, perhaps you give them a try, but in the back of my mind it is not "I'm going to try them out again but not in a date/pro-business set situation at first, and I'll never forget that I did get the crab cake soup sandwich everyone else disappointed cost me how much? experience.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 23:28 Comments || Top||


Two teachers suspended after forgetting to log out of Zoom class then caught ranting about 'technologically illiterate' students who are only impressed with 'sad TikTok videos'
[Daily Mail, Where America Gets Its News]
  • The two teachers from Bethel High School in San Francisco were recorded by the angry parent of one of the students

  • They'd just led an English class and forgot to end the call when they started badmouthing the students
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Technologically illiterate student problem can be fixed. Stupid teachers are another thing.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/13/2020 1:08 Comments || Top||

#2  That durn ON/OFF switch causes more problems, especially for the "Technologically illiterate "!
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/13/2020 2:13 Comments || Top||

#3  If you use Zoom you're technologically illiterate.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2020 2:43 Comments || Top||

#4  "Those who can, do; those who can’t, teach." - George Bernard Shaw’s ‘Man and Superman’
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/13/2020 8:25 Comments || Top||

#5  ^Some of the best research scientists I've met were also the best lecturers.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/13/2020 8:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Understood, but 'lecturing' wasn't their main purpose in life, grom.

The best folks for instructional training are mostly the ones that teach and talk about subjects that they actually do for a living every day.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/13/2020 9:27 Comments || Top||

#7  so why are they suspended? Did one of the little shits get their feelings hurt.
Posted by: Chris || 10/13/2020 11:46 Comments || Top||

#8  They said what needed to be said, which is now a crime.

Mommas' kids allowed to dink around on what is a slot machine for children and it shows, so Mommas get mad. So much easier than solving the problem, especially if the momma doesn't know the subject from boo.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 13:18 Comments || Top||


'You don't belong here!' Brazilian immigrant wife of Pennsylvania's Lt. Governor is called the N-word in racist rant at grocery store
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Pennsylvania's second lady Gisele Barreto Fetterman, 38, was verbally attacked and called racist slurs at the grocery store on Sunday

  • She is a Brazilian immigrant and the wife of Democratic Lt. Gov. John Fetterman

  • She entered the US illegally when she was seven, got her green card in 2004 and married John Fetterman in 2007

  • She was recognized at an Aldi store and a woman shouted at her: 'There’s that n-word that Fetterman married. You don’t belong here'

  • The woman also accosted her as Fetterman was in her car by calling her the n-word at her driver's side window

  • Fetterman broke down in tears and called her security detail for help

  • The incident is now under investigation by state troopers
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/13/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6469 views] Top|| File under:

#1  >She entered the US illegally when she was seven, got her green card in 2004

HOW?!?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2020 3:52 Comments || Top||

#2  You don't belong here pay up "Progressives to white Americans"
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/13/2020 5:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Not keen on the idiot's racial slurs against her but it's true that she should not have been allowed to reside illegally in this country.

Also: How does an illegal get a green card?
That happened three years before her marriage
Posted by: Squinty Claving6665 || 10/13/2020 6:15 Comments || Top||

#4  PeeAye libs are desperately jealous of all the illegals in New York and New Jersey...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/13/2020 6:20 Comments || Top||

#5  Remember though the pejorative for whitey is Nazi. Another N-word used with the same bigotry and intolerance.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/13/2020 8:56 Comments || Top||

#6  The attack continued into the parking lot where Fetterman filmed the moment her assailant, a middle aged white woman, pulled down her face mask and blurted the n-word at her as she sat in her car.

No question the lady who got all riled up was Hispanic with probably more Indio (and black) admixture than the woman she was calling a jogger. Wasn't racist so much as angry and looking for a word most likely to trigger a negative response in the recipient of the invective.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2020 10:58 Comments || Top||

#7  HOW?!?

Used the Kamela Harris briefs and oral arguments.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/13/2020 13:27 Comments || Top||

#8  "So, what's my motivation here?" asked... nobody involved in this embarrassing bit of blackface ballet.
Posted by: Jumbo the Eponymous2451 || 10/13/2020 13:41 Comments || Top||

#9  And Vinegar sniggered. "Hey, Honey,
I'm sour -- for true! -- but it's funny
What humans will do
For an hour with you...
Or you, Power... or even you, Money!"
Posted by: Jumbo the Eponymous2451 || 10/13/2020 13:47 Comments || Top||

#10  And Vinegar sniggered. "Hey, Honey,
I'm sour -- for true! -- but it's funny
What humans will do
For an hour with you...
Or you, Power... or even you, Money!"


Splendid bit of verse, that.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/13/2020 16:05 Comments || Top||

#11  If she married the LT Governor she could easily be in the process of being naturalized. I think marriage to a citizen puts you in the front of the line and allows you to stay.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 17:14 Comments || Top||

#12  It it me or does it seem like all of the Daily Mail racist in the streets of America stories seem to have pictures of the same crazy old lady.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 17:15 Comments || Top||

#13  Photo caption said she was a citizen as of July. So the racist is also a moron.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/13/2020 17:17 Comments || Top||

#14  She is NOT black, white or Latin. She is Brazilian. A unique racial mix and of Brazilian with class, charm and beautiful heart. The Lt Governor I can assure you will attribute his high level of political success the support he gets from his Brazilian wife and culture.

God bless her. And her testimony of her great love of the US.

Side note: I know a family whose husband was American and wife a legal green card holder whose two children, a daughter who served in the Marine Corp, the son in the Army in Afghanistan and survived service in the deadly Taliban stronghold of Helmond Province as part of the ISAF forces before returning home. His Brazilian green card mother was his backbone through out his service to the United States of America.
Posted by: Ebbomoger Speaking for Boskone4589 || 10/13/2020 17:36 Comments || Top||



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