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2007-07-01 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Gunther Grass on his service in Waffen SS: I was stupid
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Posted by Fred 2007-07-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 "wellll, the uniforms looked spiffy.."
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-07-01 08:03||   2007-07-01 08:03|| Front Page Top

#2 After serving in the SS, he went on to become a barking moonbat anti-globalist and anti-American. He also famously described 9/11 as "a case of the victimized justifiably striking back at the powerful."

Yep, he was a "stupid young boy" when he joined the SS. Now he's a stupid old man.
Posted by Mike 2007-07-01 08:18||   2007-07-01 08:18|| Front Page Top

#3 "I was stupid"

Oh well, that's all right then.
Posted by Tony (UK) 2007-07-01 08:19||   2007-07-01 08:19|| Front Page Top

#4 Most youth are a bit fickeled, particularly in turbulent times. Let it go. A selection of works by Günter Grass in English, he has written many more in his native tongue.

The Tin Drum. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. London: Secker & Warburg, 1962.
Cat and Mouse. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. San Diego: Harcourt Brace, 1963.
Dog Years. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, 1965.
Four Plays. Introd. by Martin Esslin. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, 1967.
Speak out! Speeches, Open Letters, Commentaries. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. London: Secker & Warburg, 1969.
Local Anaesthetic. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, 1970.
From the Diary of a Snail. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1973.
In the Egg and Other Poems. Transl. by Michael Hamburger and Christopher Middleton. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1977.
The Meeting at Telgte. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1981.
The Flounder. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1978.
Headbirths, or, the Germans are Dying Out. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1982.
The Rat. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. San Diego: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1987.
Show Your Tongue. Transl. by John E. Woods. San Diego: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1987.
Two States One Nation? Transl. by Krishna Winston with A.S. Wensinger. San Diego: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1990; London: Secker & Warburg.
The Call of the Toad. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1992.
The Plebeians Rehearse the Uprising. Transl. by Ralph Manheim. New York: Harcourt Brace, 1996.
My Century. Transl. by Michael Henry Heim. New York: Harcourt Brace, 1999.
Too far afield. Transl. by Krishna Winston. London: Faber, 2000.
Posted by Besoeker 2007-07-01 08:47||   2007-07-01 08:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Herr Grass turned the idea of Aryan superiority he embraced as a child into the insufferable German attitude of moral superiority acquired through deprivation and hard work after. Of course they're better than the rest of Europe! Look at the economic powerhouse they built out of the rubble of the war, with only their bare hands and the sweat of their brow... You Amis [or whatever the other person is] had it so easy, and so you've never had to develop character like we have. That's why you must listen to us when we tell you [fill in another blank] -- we've learnt from experience in a way you never could!
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 09:01||   2007-07-01 09:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Of course they're better than the rest of Europe! Look at the economic powerhouse they built out of the rubble of the war, with only their bare hands and the sweat of their brow.

Behind the shield of millions of Americans and trillions of dollars in defense and a promise of mutual assured destruction for over fifty years.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-07-01 09:47||   2007-07-01 09:47|| Front Page Top

#7 I have one comment for the Krauts, and it's from Texas: "don't start no trouble and there won't be no trouble." Maybe they've finally learned that lesson.
Posted by Mac 2007-07-01 10:22||   2007-07-01 10:22|| Front Page Top

#8 Peeling the Onion,

Ima have to brush up. Fucker can write.
Posted by Shipman 2007-07-01 10:41||   2007-07-01 10:41|| Front Page Top

#9 And Yeah, what TW said.
Dawg Years screwed me up big time.
Posted by Shipman 2007-07-01 10:42||   2007-07-01 10:42|| Front Page Top

#10 Hypocrite.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-07-01 16:50||   2007-07-01 16:50|| Front Page Top

#11 Dawg Years screwed me up big time.

It's probably like studying kabbalah, Shipman. Maimonedes said a man mustn't do that until he's at least thirty, has married and taught his sons a trade that they'd be self-supporting, before he may begin the study. Something about being firmly anchored to reality, I believe. ;-)
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 18:26||   2007-07-01 18:26|| Front Page Top

#12 Look at the economic powerhouse they built out of the rubble of the war, with only their bare hands and the sweat of their brow...

With a lot of help from America.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-07-01 18:30||   2007-07-01 18:30|| Front Page Top

#13 Yes, but crassly mentioning that so upsets their amour propre, Procopius2k and JohnQC.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 18:37||   2007-07-01 18:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Some of his work features anti-Nazi Germans. Readers assumed that he had been one.
Posted by McZoid 2007-07-01 19:24||   2007-07-01 19:24|| Front Page Top

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