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2007-07-01 Britain

Blair attacks 'absurd' Islamists, 'loopy loo' civil liberty absolutists

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Posted by lotp 2007-07-01 10:09|| || Front Page|| [8 views ] Top
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#1 Blair, who normally chooses his language carefully when he talks about Islamists

Seems that predicament ended with the end of his tenure as PM.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-07-01 10:51|| 2007-07-01 10:51|| Front Page Top

#2 And what about your 'absurd' immigration 'policy', Mr Blair?

Posted by Maggie Shusort4353 2007-07-01 13:28|| 2007-07-01 13:28|| Front Page Top

#3 'The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we're not actually fighting it properly. We're not actually standing up to these people and saying, "It's not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn't justified."'

I think that one has been bubbling up inside him for quite a while.

Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-01 13:40|| 2007-07-01 13:40|| Front Page Top

#4 I wonder what Mrs. Blair, esq. thinks of his sentiments?

Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 13:46|| 2007-07-01 13:46|| Front Page Top

The reason we are finding it hard to win this battle is that we're not actually fighting it properly. We're not actually standing up to these people and saying, "It's not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn't justified."

Well, uh, who was in charge of how we were fighting it?

Nice words, Tony, but a bit late there.

Posted by Tarzan Threck7932 2007-07-01 13:48|| 2007-07-01 13:48|| Front Page Top

#6 Exactly. All this would have been better expressed on July 8 two years ago. And a cleaning out of the stables at the BBC with it.

You, apologist, you're fired.
You, with the Phakestinians, you're fired.
You, with the "V" sound in Wolfowitz, you're fired.
You, pronouncing Orc names with gusto, you're fired.

Posted by Excalibur 2007-07-01 15:05|| 2007-07-01 15:05|| Front Page Top

#7 He asked how it is possible to claim that Afghanistan's Muslims are being oppressed when the Taliban 'used to execute teachers for teaching girls in schools'.

Uh, Tony, maybe they consider stopping those executions to be oppression.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-07-01 15:51|| 2007-07-01 15:51|| Front Page Top

#8 It's not just your methods that are wrong, your ideas are absurd. Nobody is oppressing you. Your sense of grievance isn't justified.

Refreshing language, if a bit tardy. However, no grievance is too small for skinless people in a sandpaper world.

Blair held out the example of the overthrow of the Taliban in Afghanistan - criticised by Islamists as an example of the heavy-handed imperial West oppressing Muslims - to highlight unfounded claims of grievance. He asked how it is possible to claim that Afghanistan's Muslims are being oppressed when the Taliban 'used to execute teachers for teaching girls in schools'.

I'd attribute this to the usual confusion about Bugs vs. Features. Or as RC succintly noted:

maybe they consider stopping those executions to be oppression.

Sadly, most politicians still cannot bring themselves to comprehend how deeply inimical Islam is to Western culture.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-01 16:18|| 2007-07-01 16:18|| Front Page Top

#9 loo?

As in A toilet, loo, lavatory or WC is a plumbing fixture and disposal system primarily intended for the disposal of the bodily wastes: urine and fecal matter.

Well, it does fit the applicable and identified group.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-07-01 16:33|| 2007-07-01 16:33|| Front Page Top

#10 how deeply inimical Islam is to Western culture.

Friendly to other cultures?

Posted by gromgoru 2007-07-01 22:55|| 2007-07-01 22:55|| Front Page Top

#11 Friendly to other cultures?

In their dreams.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-07-01 23:24|| 2007-07-01 23:24|| Front Page Top

#12 Before the clock strikes midnight and turns this thread back into a pumpkin, I wish to make one point:

Tony Blair has hit upon the reason the hard Left is so sympathetic to radical Islam. Beside sharing a general hatred of Western culture, the Left (which suckles at the teat of Marx) seemingly only exists to play one group against another based on supposed oppression and a succession of historical grievances.

Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-07-01 23:56|| 2007-07-01 23:56|| Front Page Top

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