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Car bomb defused in central London
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Afghanistan
Talibunnies Hide Behind Kittens and Baby Ducks
June 29, 2007: So far this year, the Taliban have lost over two thousand troops. Three quarters were killed, the rest captured. Among the captives were 23 suicide bombers, caught before they could do the deed. For all of last year, the Taliban lost about 4,000 men, most of them killed. There have been about 80 major engagements so far this year, which usually end in lots of Taliban dying from the effects of a smart bomb or artillery.

The Taliban now more frequently seek out civilians, to take shelter among. The presence of civilians will offer some protection for the Taliban. But if it appears that the Taliban will still be able to get away (like after nightfall), a smart bomb will be used anyway. This results in civilian casualties, and the Taliban has used this to their advantage in their propaganda. Even the president of Afghanistan has had to respond to this, and has demanded that NATO forces be more careful. The problem is, the only alternative to smart bombs, is sending in troops to try and kill or capture the Taliban, without harming the civilians. There are two problems with this. First, more of the troops will be killed or wounded in this kind of close combat. Second, civilians will be put at risk anyway, this time from the effects of bullets and grenades. But this sort of thing does not make the news, for some reason or another.

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 06/29/2007 13:20 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [264 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  The Taliban now more frequently seek out civilians, to take shelter among. The presence of civilians will offer some protection for the Taliban. But if it appears that the Taliban will still be able to get away (like after nightfall), a smart bomb will be used anyway. This results in civilian casualties, and the Taliban has used this to their advantage in their propaganda.

How in Hell have the Taliban "used this to their advantage in their propaganda"? They're getting extra civilians killed and managing to foist the blame upon coalition troops. All this means to me is that the civilians are willing to cooperate with the Taliban because they agree with their aims. If so, we are not killing civilians but collaborators. This is nothing more than the usual Islamic crapulence. So long as Afghanistan's civilian population does not aggressively resist Taliban operations in their midst, they are military enemies and deserve to get blown away. The coalition also needs to mount a much more serious propaganda campaign to highlight the Taliban's blatant disregard for civilian safety.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 15:56 Comments || Top||

#2  "Talibunnies Hide Behind Kittens and Baby Ducks"

In other shocking news, water is wet.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 17:52 Comments || Top||

#3  They are Tali-pussies.
Posted by: anymouse || 06/29/2007 18:33 Comments || Top||

#4  All this means to me is that the civilians are willing to cooperate with the Taliban because they agree with their aims

doesn't occur to you that under the gun, they might decide NOT to die immediately, but take their chances as a hostage? Jeebus. Zen, You have, at times, posted logically and realistically thought out comments. Are those days over??
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 20:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Are those days over??

No, they're not, Frank. But my patience with spilling gallon after gallon of American blood to defend a nation full of people who haven't got the stones to begin throttling their oppressors at every opportunity has worn thin.

At last check, Afghanistan was overflowing with weapons. As mojo so eloquently pointed out, what's to prevent a villager from going along with forced recruitment just long enough to get a weapon in his hands and gun down his captors? If they don't trust him with a weapon, maybe he needs to club them with a rock or something.

This crapulence of Muslims play acting like they're the helpless victims of a few extremists is old news. How about this? We air drop thousands of cheap cell phones so that Afghan citizens can report Taliban movement. If they don't, those areas do not receive any troop support and instead get bombed out when the Taliban come visiting.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:20 Comments || Top||


2 Americans among 4 killed in Kabul suicide attacks
Two suicide car bombs ripped into security vehicles in Kabul on Thursday, killing two foreigners and two Afghans, officials said, also reporting that the Taliban had beheaded three policemen. The bomber exploded his car near the vehicle of a private security company involved in mentoring the Afghan police, Afghan security officials said. “Two Americans are dead and five Afghan civilians are wounded,” city’s criminal investigation chief Alishah Paktiawal said.

The force of the blast ripped off one side of an armoured Land Cruiser. Pieces of flesh, apparently from the attacker, were strewn up to 80 metres from the destroyed car and charred chunks of plastic and metal littered the ground. The Taliban claimed responsibility.

The last suicide bombing in the capital was on June 17, when a massive attack rocked the heart of the city killing 35 people in the deadliest blast in the insurgency launched after the Taliban was driven from government in 2001.

The second suicide bomb on Thursday struck a vehicle of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in a remote area of the eastern province of Paktika, ISAF and an eyewitness said. “It was a car bomb,” ISAF spokesman Major John Thomas said. “We have got ISAF casualties and local casualties ... from what we know now they are all injuries,” he said. A witness, Mohammad Shah, said the attacker had driven an explosive-filled car into an ISAF vehicle near a hospital being built with help from the foreign forces. “I saw eight civilians wounded and one 18-year-old civilian is killed,” he said. Moreover, the governor of the western province of Farah said Taliban militants had beheaded three off-duty Afghan policemen. The three were returning to work on Tuesday after holidays and the bus they were travelling in was stopped by armed militants, Governor Muhaidin Baluch said. “The three were beheaded by Taliban,” he added.

ISAF reported meanwhile that it had killed “several extremists” in a battle in the southern province of Uruzgan on Wednesday.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Africa Horn
Somalia: SOS Blast claims Seven
(SomaliNet) Seven civilians have been killed in a shootout carried by the Ethiopian forces in retaliation to a roadside bomb which exploded on their convoy near SOS hospital in the north of Mogadishu on Thursday. Most of the victims were pedestrians who were killed by the bullets sprayed by the Ethiopian soldiers soon after the explosion around 1:35pm local time. “The Ethiopian snipers opened fire indiscriminately and everybody ran for dear life,” said one local resident adding that “the whole place was blood path,” The Ethiopians sealed off the area of the blast, immediately taking the casualties.

Meanwhile, a remote controlled roadside bomb exploded on a convoy belonging to the transitional government in north of the capital killing two soldiers and wounding others on Thursday. The explosion which occurred between hotel of Ramadan and Kaah around 7:10am local time caused the injuries of number of passersby. Witnesses told Somalinet that the bomb hit one of the convoy cars causing death and injuries. The wounded were taken to the hospital as the area of the blast was cordoned off by the security forces. 20 people were arrested in connection with the latest bomb attack.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [257 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts

#1  Ethiopians getting the handle on asymmetric warfare.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 7:06 Comments || Top||


Britain
Sky News Reports Second Mercedes Rigged to Explode Found in Central London
Fox news alert -- through email
Posted by: Sherry || 06/29/2007 15:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  CNN story here:

As authorities were investigating an explosives-packed car discovered outside a nightclub near Piccadilly Circus on Friday, a second vehicle was found in London that had similar explosive material inside, security sources said.

The second car had been parked underground near Trafalgar Square in an area where parking was not allowed.

Workers towed it to a lot on Park Lane near Buckingham Palace and thought it smelled of gasoline. Given the reports that gas canisters were among the explosive material found in the other car, they became suspicious, security sources said.

Authorities then blocked off a section of Park Lane while they examined the car and discovered the material.

The sources did not say exactly what was found in the second car, but a U.S. source

Posted by: lotp || 06/29/2007 15:51 Comments || Top||

#2  This is very serious. Untold quantities of CO2 could have been emitted if these cars had exploded. Cars are the leading threat to the world, you know.
Posted by: Al Gore || 06/29/2007 16:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Sky News Reports Second Mercedes Rigged to Explode Found in Central London

Damn-it, we can't win, get put of Iraq NOW! and redeploy to Okinawa!
Posted by: Sen Murtha || 06/29/2007 16:18 Comments || Top||

#4  get put, and get out, same thing Damn It!
Posted by: Sen Murtha || 06/29/2007 16:19 Comments || Top||

#5  Anyone still willing to bet this was IRA? This has Islamic crapulence written all over it. Remember, the 7-7 anniversary is just around the corner.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 16:20 Comments || Top||

#6  muslims would do something like this? nahh i can't believe it it's a religion of peace dammit
Posted by: sinse || 06/29/2007 16:25 Comments || Top||

#7  How many miles are on the Mercedes? Will they auction it?
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/29/2007 20:18 Comments || Top||


Hero Cop May Have Saved Scores Of Lives
Sky News sources say one of the first police officers on the scene of the London West End car bomb may have saved dozens of lives by defusing the explosives before the bomb squad arrived. It is believed the quick-thinking cop recognised that the car was wired to blow up, jumped in and disconnected the trigger device, thought to be a mobile phone. This backs up an eye-witness account of a police officer briefly entering the metallic green Mercedes before running for cover. Additional:LONDON (AP) - There are reports that bombers intended to set off a bomb remotely in London's bustling theater district. Sky News TV, citing sources, says authorities think bombers intended to use a cell phone. New York Republican Congressman Peter King, who has been briefed on the investigation, says a cell phone was found and was going to be used to detonate the bomb. People are being warned to stay vigilant after the discovery of the "massive" car bomb, which could have killed hundreds of nightclub revellers.
The device, which contained 60 litres of petrol, a large amount of nails and several gas canisters, was found in the Mercedes early this morning.

Park Lane was also closed to traffic for much of the day due to a suspect vehicle in an car pound that police believe may be connected to the attempted bombing in Haymarket. t has emerged that the blue hybrid Mercedes was illegally parked in the West End and was towed away to the Park Lane car pound in the early hours of the morning. Staff at the pound became suspicious and alerted police because they said "it smelled of gas". Forensic officers and bomb disposal teams spent several hours examining the car, however Park Lane has now re-opened.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said the UK is "currently facing the most serious and sustained threat" and authorities are doing everything they can to protect the public.

More details at link...
Posted by: Delphi || 06/29/2007 15:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [341 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  The MO sure looks like Muslims to me. I doubt very much this is IRA. The responding police officer showed exceptional bravery by swiftly defusing the device. Let's hope they can trace the cell phone's SIM card.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 15:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Do they still give out Victoria Crosses?
Posted by: Mike || 06/29/2007 15:50 Comments || Top||

#3  "Ahmed... what is the number?"
"Eh?"
"The number to dial... for the car bomb?"
"I thought you--"
Posted by: eLarson || 06/29/2007 16:26 Comments || Top||

#4  IF true it was quick thinking on the cops part for realizing the key to setting off the bomb. For all we know the bombers could have been watching and waiting for the Bomb Squad before setting it off, so this guy may have saved some of Londons finest.
Posted by: Charles || 06/29/2007 16:27 Comments || Top||

#5  "the quick-thinking cop recognised that the car was wired to blow up, jumped in and disconnected the trigger device"

For which he'll probably face disciplinary action for doing a job he wasn't trained to do....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 16:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Hopefully, the Brits will quietly set up another Flying Squad to hunt down said baddies and dispatch them, avoiding all the fuss and mess of a trial.

These twits probably left forensic evidence all over those cars. Perhaps they will not only whack them, but the Imam they rode in on.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 17:06 Comments || Top||

#7  These assholes have money to blow up multiple mercedes? I don't even have the cash to fill up my 4cyl. jeep p.o.s.!

Posted by: sfslfks;af 49494 || 06/29/2007 18:15 Comments || Top||

#8  With respect...

Of course this isn't the IRA. Those shits wouldn't do this.

And of course we still give out Victoria Crosses.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 06/29/2007 20:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Tiny, what are non-news people saying about the attack?
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/29/2007 20:30 Comments || Top||

#10  Sorry, I meant Tony.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/29/2007 20:31 Comments || Top||

#11  Decisions, decisions, do they beep the doors locked next time they try this, wasting precious seconds where they can go boom or just leave the doors open again????

Wait - jump out the sunroof.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/29/2007 20:42 Comments || Top||

#12  Liberals would put forth the idea of banning cell phones rather than risk being labelled Islamophobes for suggesting that our countries eject the actual source of the problem.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/29/2007 22:44 Comments || Top||

#13  Liberal "thinking": Let more Muslims into the country so that the ones already here won't feel so lonely and alienated.
Posted by: Vespasian Ulereling7489 || 06/29/2007 23:03 Comments || Top||


Britain: Car bomb in London's "The Haymarket" would have caused 'carnage'
A car bomb left in London's West End would have caused "significant injury or loss of life" if it had not been defused by police. The explosive device, consisting of gas cyclinders and nails, was discovered at 2am outside a packed nightclub in The Haymarket, near Piccadilly Circus. Police were alerted to a suspicious silver Mercedes car in the heart of theatreland by ambulance crew who noticed smoke inside it.

Scotland Yard's deputy assistant commissioner Peter Clarke said officers inspecting the car found significant quantities of petrol, a number of gas cylinders and containers holding nails inside. Fortunately, specialist officers were able to make the device safe preventing any damage or injury to people or property nearby.

Mr Clarke, head of the Yard's counter-terrorism command, said detectives are keeping "an entirely open mind" as to who is responsible but he called on the public to remain vigilant. Whitehall sources said that the police and security services were looking at possible international links - including similarities to car bombs used by insurgents in Iraq. "It is entirely possible. There are various things - it is outside a nightclub, it is a vehicle-borne device, it is close to the anniversary of the July 7 attacks," one source said. Police have removed the car from the scene and are studying CCTV footage for clues.

Home Secretary Jacqui Smith chaired a meeting of the government's emergency response committee, Cobra, this morning. "What I think is very important is that the public remain vigilant at all times," she said. "Obviously the police are investigating and I think we should allow them to get on with that without undue speculation."

Britain's security service MI5 currently determines the threat level for terrorism in the UK as severe - the second highest in the scale. It has been set as such since August 14 last year and means an attack is "highly likely" with "a continuing high level of threat to the UK".

One witness said that door staff at the nightclub Tiger, Tiger alerted police after the car was driven into bins last night and the driver ran off. The witness said the large silver saloon car was being driven "erratically" before the minor crash. The driver was not stopped. Police said it is not yet clear whether the nightclub was targeted. The area, including Piccadilly Underground station, has been cordoned off, causing huge disruption. Police have said it will remain closed for some time.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said the incident reminds us that Britain faces "a serious and continuous threat" and the public "need to be alert" at all times.
Jack Straw, who was appointed Justice Secretary yesterday, said ministers had been informed of the incident. He told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme it was "very saddening" but "these things happen".

A police source said: "The indications that we have got so far are that it was certainly a big device." But a Westminster source said the device was believed to be relatively small and made of some type of home-made explosive. The source said police carried out a search of other key areas in the capital in the early hours of this morning after the Haymarket incident was discovered.

Had it gone off, it might have been as bad, or worse, than the Bali bombing.
Posted by: mrp || 06/29/2007 07:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [367 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  I wonder how long the Brits' luck will hold.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 8:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm starting to seethe, personally.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/29/2007 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Was watching the Brit's news conference this morning. Never saw such tip toeing in my life.
Posted by: kelly || 06/29/2007 9:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Has the Labour Party come out with its obligatory statement that Islam is really a religion of peace yet? It's just a tiny minority of extremists, etc.
Posted by: Vortigern Phamble5184 || 06/29/2007 9:12 Comments || Top||

#5  In fact, the people that do this kind of thing aren't really Muslims, they just call themselves Muslims. Anyone who mentions immigration in this context is a direct descendant of Heinrich Himmler.
Posted by: Vortigern Phamble5184 || 06/29/2007 9:14 Comments || Top||

#6  I blame anyone except Muslims.

/Tony Blair, Dhimmis, George Bush, half the Israeli cabinet, etc. etc.
Posted by: Excalibur || 06/29/2007 9:27 Comments || Top||

#7  In fact, they're not really "Asians", per se, in that it is theoretically possible that they could look almost like your next door neighbor; so everyone should be on the lookout for pasty faced grandmothers, possibly in wheelchairs, who may or may not own more than a single house cat and keep tidy gardens.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 9:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Sure, sure, only about 60-75% of muslims in Britain support the radical agenda. They quit doing polls the numbers were so alarming. Now way to spin numbers like those. But by all means, don't take my word for it, here's just one of dozens of articles I could fetch to prove my point.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/29/2007 9:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Have they found ANOTHER car bomb ??
Posted by: Oztralian || 06/29/2007 9:50 Comments || Top||

#10  I just heard on the news over here British Police have cordoned off London's Park Lane to investigate 2nd suspicious car.
Posted by: Oztralian || 06/29/2007 9:52 Comments || Top||

#11  But things are Different™ now!

Gordon Brown is no man's poodle.

See?
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/29/2007 10:01 Comments || Top||

#12  Anyone who has been to London and know their way around will remember that Haymarket leads down to Whitehall & Downing Street via Charing Cross. I believe that was ultimate target and the guy driving lost his nerve, fiddled around with cell phone, and crashed into the skip near the nightclub. He will turn out to homegrown with recent airline ticket stub to Islamabad or Karachi.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/29/2007 10:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Let's see.

An airplane ride now requires an extra two hours so that each passenger -- from infant to elderly -- may be searched. A virtual army of inspectors were hired to do that search. You can't bring a beverage or hair gel through security.

Cities and nations have thousands of people purely dedicated to rooting out terrorists.

Terror cells have either been successful, thwarted or are still planning mayhem.

Because of Islamic terror, our lives have been significantly disrupted and we spend fortunes on keeping ourselves safe -- monies that could reasonably have been spent on making things better.

Yet Israel is boycotted and considered the greatest danger to world peace. Bush is the antichrist. And Islam is the Religion of Peace.

What am I missing?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 06/29/2007 10:27 Comments || Top||

#14  Oztralian, as of 15:03 London TimeSkyNews says In a new security alert, Park Lane and Oxford Street have been closed to traffic due to suspect vehicles. .
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 10:38 Comments || Top||

#15  I bet he was homegrown-educated free,healthcare free,family living on benefits(too lazy to work) and how they repay our hospitality/softness?????

FUCKING SCUM the lot of them.Start forced deportation now!!!!!or we will be all voting BNP at the next election!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 06/29/2007 10:46 Comments || Top||

#16  I figure Catholics, likely the Gordon Riots will break out shortly.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/29/2007 10:47 Comments || Top||

#17  And This is London says There are also early reports of that police have stopped an open-top bus on Park Lane, central London, according to Sky. The road has been closed while the vehicle is investigated. At the moment there are no suspects who have been identified in connection with the car, said Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command.

But detectives already have a preliminary description of the vehicle driver who may well have been caught on the large number of CCTV cameras in the street.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 10:58 Comments || Top||

#18  "London will be bombed" message on jihadi chat room.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/29/2007 11:31 Comments || Top||

#19  The attempted bombing in London's Haymarket area came one week before the second anniversary of the July 7 bombings that killed 52 people on London's transportation network.

Also Friday, a London jury was expected to hand down a verdict in the case against five young men who were charged with trying to blow up city buses and trains in 2005.
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/29/2007 11:32 Comments || Top||

#20  I was just listening to Fox News coverage, in which they were going through amazing contortions to agonizingly deny that this might be the work of "Muslim terrorists".

Could be Eskimos or Australian aborigines, or maybe SPACE ALIENS or even white, middle class Americans from Kansas who have voted Republican since Lincoln.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 12:04 Comments || Top||

#21  "Jack Straw, who was appointed Justice Secretary yesterday,..." This is even almost as scary.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 06/29/2007 12:07 Comments || Top||

#22  99% it was radical Islamists

1% it was some IRA breakaway group no ones heard of before, or animal rightsers, or radical enviros, or American militias who got lost on the way to DC, or Tamil Tigers with odd strategic concepts, or the FSB, or a Russian dissident billionaire, or whatever.

But until either theres some direct evidence of Islamism involved, OR at least it pans out that there really were multiple bombs planned (which so completely fits AQs MO) it is the better part of valor to avoid saying its Islamism, for now.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 06/29/2007 12:34 Comments || Top||

#23  I agree with LH on this.

If it is Islamists (it probably is and may even be Rushdie related), there will be plenty of time to make polemical remarks and watch the genuflecting (irony intended) of the Islam apologists (e.g., mayor of London, chief of Islamic outreach, new UN approved Cabinet minister, etc.).
Posted by: mhw || 06/29/2007 12:57 Comments || Top||

#24  The link on instapundit is the most plausible.

The bomb smoked early and caused a crash.

The guy running away will be on 30+ CCTV cameras, also if he phoned on a mobile for help, they'll have that too.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/29/2007 12:59 Comments || Top||

#25  Have they released his picture yet? With all the cameras around there they have it already. If they haven't let it out then you just know its because he doesn't look like Nigel from Manchester.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 06/29/2007 13:32 Comments || Top||

#26  Muslims Fear Persecution. Film at eleven...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/29/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#27  There was a news story a few years ago of what looked like a random shooting of a med tech. Cameras caught the perp walking for blocks until he got to the hospital where he worked. the same hospital where the victim worked. I hear the density of camera in the UK is many times that in the US. Chances are they will catch the perp walking into his council flat or mosque.
Posted by: ed || 06/29/2007 13:56 Comments || Top||

#28  Muslim immigrants?

what Nation needs them?

what Nation wants them?

what native population wants them?

NEXT
Posted by: RD || 06/29/2007 14:01 Comments || Top||

#29  #26 Muslims Fear Persecution. Film at eleven... Posted by: tu3031 2007-06-29 13:34

I only WISH they were persecuted. Driving them out of the West and back into the cesspits where they originated would do wonders for security in the West, and might even improve the MME. Doubtful, but POSSIBLE...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/29/2007 14:02 Comments || Top||

#30  #28

the euros arent as fortunate as we are, to sit next to a reservoir of hispanic labor
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 06/29/2007 14:04 Comments || Top||

#31 
#6 Why 1/2, Excalibur?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 14:19 Comments || Top||

#32  Muslims are not a labor source. They are a large drain on the host Euro economies. In Britain 35% of muslim households have no working adults. The other muslim households don't generate enough taxes to cover this, let alone the low income benefits of those working and the extra security burdens muslim actions generate.

British unemployment is what, 4-5%? Increase the burdens in other higher unemployment or more generous dole Euro nations.
Posted by: ed || 06/29/2007 14:24 Comments || Top||

#33  Because of Islamic terror, our lives have been significantly disrupted and we spend fortunes on keeping ourselves safe -- monies that could reasonably have been spent on making things better.

Yet Israel is boycotted and considered the greatest danger to world peace. Bush is the antichrist. And Islam is the Religion of Peace.

What am I missing?


Only the fact that—London bomb or no—Islam still needs its collective ass kicked from here to next Tuesday. In an incredibly perverse economic calculus, the money we are spending fighting terrorism could drive the technology that would shift us off of oil dependence. In all of its various manifestations, Islam represents an intolerable burden upon our world. Let's examine the laundry list of Muslim-related issues:

1.) GLOBAL TERRORISM: This single feature of Islam's existence is sufficient cause for a flat-out ban on this ideology in all parts of the civilized world. The overall effects of Islamic violence have an economic ripple effect that spills over into numerous categories. America's expenditure in Iraq alone slowly closes on ONE TRILLION DOLLARS.

2.) SHARI'A LAW: The persistent human rights violations imposed upon people by Islam's barbaric legal code causes untold suffering and a flood of refugees that create a stupendous financial burden upon the host countries that receive them. Whether it is Female Genital Mutilation, amputation, lashes, stoning or beheading, the carnage unleased by this Neadertal creed carries a huge price tag in shattered lives and steep medical or psychological costs.

3.) INDUSTRIAL STAGNATION: A supreme example of this is Iran's policy of khodkafa'l or Islamic self-sufficiency. Disregarding the massive diversion of funds into nuclear weapons research, khodkafa'l is responsible for a near-total economic implosion of Iran's national economy. Petroleum extraction and refining, textiles, agriculture and all other aspects of a once stable economy have eroded dramatically. How does this cost us? Consider the millions of dollars in disaster relief sent after the Bam earthquake. Iran's Islamic theocracy wholely retards improvement of everything from building codes to emergency response infrastructure and thereby sucks at the global aid tit. Now, multiply this by all of the other stagnant Islamic cesspits and the cost of lost productivity skyrockets into the TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

4.) DEPRESSED TOURISM: This is one of the hidden ripple effects caused by Islam's constant predations. Countries like Lebanon and Yugoslavia were once miniature Rivieras in their own right with billion dollar tourist economies. Terrorist violence has not only ground these to a halt, but resulted in eco-terrorism as well. Lebanon's cedars have been chain-sawed while ancient estates and forests in Yugoslavia have been irreparably vandalized or clearcut to intentionally destroy the economic base of its inhabitants. Airport delays mean fewer flights and increased expenses with more frustration that discourages people from traveling in the first place. The final cost to global tourism easily exceeds ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

5.) INTERNAL SECURITY: With an estimated 500 security personnel for each terrorist, the cost of these operations in every single nation around the globe most likely exceeds ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.

6.) THE PALESTINIAN CRISIS: This one small segment of Islamic crapulence wolfs down OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS EACH YEAR. The cost to our world of this festering open wound goes well beyond that once aid to Israel and ancillary factors are folded in.

Islam is a massive parasite that is draining this world's financial coffers as it propells itself towards global domination. There will be no end to this vampirism until we dismantle Islam's clerical structure. The militant nature of nearly every Islamic sect obviates the possibility for any peaceful resolution. Likewise, Islam's adamant refusal to reform or modify its doctrine precludes any hope for internal change that would shift it away from terrorism and stagnation.

The prospects are bleak and Islam wouldn't have it any other way. Confronted with this stark equation, the time has come to begin a catastrophic dismantling of Islam. With the cost of Islam's mere existence representing the better part of one trillion dollars wasted per year, its continuing predations can no longer be tolerated. Recongregation of Muslim immigrants back in their countries of origin and military containment of those populations in the MME (Muslim Middle East) must begin right away. It is one of the only ways to forestall what will otherwise prove to be an inevitable nuclear war with the MME.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 14:46 Comments || Top||

#34  re: #1: i think London's luck will run out this weekend; too many suspicious cars and vehicles showing up to get them all.....
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 06/29/2007 15:18 Comments || Top||

#35  Zen:

Exactly my point. And well said, too, by the way. The costs are staggering. And the world is distracted (by the Israel red herring) or is choosing to be blind.

And by the way, you left off the costs associated with nonterror, Muslim on Muslim (e.g., Darfur, Afghanistan, etc) violence.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 06/29/2007 15:34 Comments || Top||

#36  Recongregation of Muslim immigrants back in their countries of origin and military containment of those populations in the MME (Muslim Middle East) must begin right away.

Fair warning to whomever comes to grab my neighbor. You'll have to go through me.

Not that I'm against expelling Muslims, we just need to try to limit it to the aggitators and leeches.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 15:41 Comments || Top||

#37  #30 the euros aren't as fortunate as we are, to sit next to a reservoir of Hispanic labor

ADL on the Nation of Aztlan = they Hate Jews, Hate Zionists, the usual bull shit...

their Web Site: The Nation of Aztlan

La Raza = The Race, a racist anti-"white" movement

Mexicana Movement = All Whites are European colonial squatters. The current Pope [Benedict XVI] is a "WHITE SUPREMACIST NAZI POPE"

is your need to drag in 'Hispanic labor', [a special interest group if there ever was one] an argument for or against Muslim Immigration Liberal Hawk?

Cheap Labor is a payoff to special interests, in America and Europe. Any job a Hispanic will do in America, an American would gladly do if the pay were satisfactory. It's that simple, I'm telling you this from first hand experience; I still work in construction albeit on a reduced scale. So I'm around both illegals and Americans in the Trade in fact my one employee is a good American kid, who I pay above scale.

I'm for Legal immigration, at a rate that the immigrant can assimilate and become an American Citizen in Spirit, not just legally. Of course this calls for judgement which is short supply the last time I checked.

But back to Muslims, all folks come from a culture. The Hispanic immigrant is most likely a Christian, which culturally is a huge jump on any Muslimes from the gate. We should be very circumspect about allowing Muslims to immigrate to America. IMHO.
Posted by: RD || 06/29/2007 16:10 Comments || Top||

#38  Exactly my point. And well said, too, by the way. The costs are staggering. And the world is distracted (by the Israel red herring) or is choosing to be blind.

And by the way, you left off the costs associated with nonterror, Muslim on Muslim (e.g., Darfur, Afghanistan, etc) violence.


Too right, PlanetDan. Even Muslim on Muslim crapulence costs the West big money. Either we adopt a policy of containment or face the fact that massive numbers of Muslims will need to die. There is no way that Western culture can put up with Muslims living in its midst. They are such an intensely retrograde force that there will never be any peace.

Not that I'm against expelling Muslims, we just need to try to limit it to the aggitators and leeches.

Cool beans, Mike N. Now, please be so kind as to tell all of us exactly how we are supposed to distinguish "good" Muslims from bad Muslims. There's this niggling little thing called taqiyya and it makes such a notion totally impossible. This difficulty is not our fault. Islam grants itself moral and ethical carte blanche to infiltrate and kill Infidels in any way possible and at every opportunity. Muslims will tell any lie necessary and cheat in every way imaginable to press forward with Islamic terrorism and global domination.

It's time to demonstrate that "good" Muslims are going to be held responsible for their doctrine's profound shortcomings. Shari'a law and taqiyya are just the iceberg's tip of Islamic crapulence. If "good" Muslims want to continue supporting Islam, either they reform it, kill their jihadist clerics and members or accept the repercussions for participating in a lying, thieving death cult.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 16:15 Comments || Top||

#39  With all that business about Salman Rushdie and the Pak minister of whatever saying it justifies suicide bombing, you just have to suspect Paks. Heads up, Mr. Brown. You got lucky this time but they are NOT going to stop trying so there is no point in being PC or namby-pamby. You gotta get tough.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 06/29/2007 16:34 Comments || Top||

#40  Right on schedule: the Daily KOS is calling BS on this.... any surprise there? anyone? anyone?
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 06/29/2007 16:41 Comments || Top||

#41  What does "Screw 'Em" say a car filled with propane and nails is? A mobile hardware store?!
Posted by: eLarson || 06/29/2007 16:53 Comments || Top||

#42  No doubt the CIA did it ... or was it Cheney's private army?

Gotta be one of those ....
Posted by: lotp || 06/29/2007 17:44 Comments || Top||

#43  now please be so kind as to explain to all of us how we are supposed to distinguish "good" Muslims from bad Muslims.

The ins and outs of the program would best be handled by a group of very well trained individuals that we call the FBI. I'll leave choosing which investigative techniques they use up to them.

Many of those people you propose giving the toss to are constitutionally affording this inconvenient thing name Due Process. Taking away constitutional protections such as Due Process in order to avoid the possibility of Sharia Law taking away constitutional protections such as Due Process is more than a little ironic.

Anyone advocating this needs to take a serious look at themselves and their totalitarian proposal. If, upon reflection, they still feel this is a good choice, they should consider a civics lesson. Or a passport. Perhaps they would prefer a more totalitarian society, such as the ones where America would be sending its "bad" Muslims, as they clearly do not hold the American ideals of liberty any nearer their souls than our "bad" Muslims do.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 17:56 Comments || Top||

#44  the euros arent as fortunate as we are, to sit next to a reservoir of hispanic labor

Euros have the biggest reservoir of hispanic labor. They have Spain.
Posted by: JFM || 06/29/2007 18:44 Comments || Top||

#45  USN, Ret: Just wait until they blow up Buckingham Palace. Then KOS will claim the Queen blew it up to support for bombing Iran with the US, because she has other places to stay.
Posted by: Charles || 06/29/2007 19:24 Comments || Top||

#46  Mike - quit using reason, principle, and American standards, dammit
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 19:30 Comments || Top||

#47  #43 What's the name of that law used on Japanese Americans in WWII?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 19:43 Comments || Top||

#48  Whatever it was named, it wasn't much more acceptable than the name of the law that the Germans used on the Jews in WWII.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 20:12 Comments || Top||

#49  Note that to my knowledge, the Japanese in the US weren't deported. Or even interned in a uniform fashion.
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 06/29/2007 20:18 Comments || Top||

#50  #47 Zionism?

Oh wait... That was something else entirely...

Settlements maybe?
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 20:19 Comments || Top||

#51  #47 - Is "Internment" the word you're looking for?
Posted by: eLarson || 06/29/2007 20:43 Comments || Top||

#52  Many of those people you propose giving the toss to are constitutionally affording this inconvenient thing name Due Process. Taking away constitutional protections such as Due Process in order to avoid the possibility of Sharia Law taking away constitutional protections such as Due Process is more than a little ironic.

Which is why I have long advocated using due process to ban shari'a law and, preferrably, Islam as well. Both seek to overthrow America's constitution and thereby intrinsically condone sedition and treason. Once such a ban is in place, those who subscribe to Islam are traitors to the state, which they are already, its just that the West simply has not awoken to this fact as of yet.

The framers of our Constitution—however farsighted they indeed were—could not anticipate all contingencies. A splendid example of this is Nazism. While it remains a constitutionally protected form of speech I challenge anyone to show how America would be worse off if it was banned altogether. I would hope that people also take note of how American Nazi groups are finding common ground with Islamic extremists on the basis of mutual support for genocide against the Jews.

In similar fashion, it is doubtful in the extreme that America's founding Fathers could possibly have anticipated the emergence of an immigrant class solely dedicated to the destruction of Constitutional law. The monstrous ingratitude and essential enmity of such traitors simply defies reason.

I think that the current issue of illegal immigration has made it crystal clear that our laws, their enforcement and the politicians who enact them are not necessarily adequate to the task. It takes no great leap of imagination to arrive at the conclusion that current legislation addressing the presence of Islam, shari'a law and the Muslims who almost unanimously support its ascendancy in America is not up to the task either.

Your points are well made, Mike N. But I do not think your suggested measures will serve to adequately protect America from its enemies, both overseas and here at home. The recent signal failures of our foreign and domestic intelligence agencies demonstrate a clear defecit in coping with Islamic jihad. Far too many Muslims maintain either overt or tacit approval of terrorism for the West to continue ignoring this potent threat.

I would rather violate the constitutional rights of American Muslims as a whole than allow their perverted doctrine to slip just enough operatives through our open society's net to commit the nuclear atrocities these twisted fucks have nocturnal emissions over. I cherish American Constitutional law and refuse to allow squeamishness over the rights of those who openly avow their allegiance to a doctrine founded upon the destruction of democracy to prevent their ejection.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 20:56 Comments || Top||

#53  Is "Internment" the word you're looking for?

Yes, and it is one of the few existing functional alternatives to mass deportations. We are faced with some serious decisions about how committed we are to the survival of America. While it may not seem obvious, I cherish our Constitution and hope for the perpetuation of its benevolent rule.

I am NOT prepared to idly sit by and let a specific class of American citizens and immigrants assault it using technically legal tools in order that they may impose a totally Neandertal code of Islamic law. If we must deny the rights of a traitor class to preserve our precious Constitution, so be it. While we may well have erred on the side of caution with our internment of the WWII Japanese in America, no such mistake presents itself in the case of Muslims.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:05 Comments || Top||

#54  Yeah, Zenster, we'll put you in charge and you'll send all the Muslims to concentration camps. The final solution. What a fine Nazi you'd make!
Posted by: Darrell || 06/29/2007 21:12 Comments || Top||

#55  I am NOT prepared to idly sit by and let a specific class of American citizens and immigrants assault it using technically legal tools in order that they may impose a totally Neandertal code of Islamic law. If we must deny the rights of a traitor class to preserve our precious Constitution, so be it. While we may well have erred on the side of caution with our internment of the WWII Japanese in America, no such mistake presents itself in the case of Muslims.

and what, specifically are YOU prepared to do? Ima tired of the bullshit threats, rhetoric and preening. SAY IT
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 21:13 Comments || Top||

#56  Not now, Frank. You won't be able to understand him with all that spittle and seething going on.
Posted by: Darrell || 06/29/2007 21:18 Comments || Top||

#57  If you wish to outlaw sharia, I'm with you completely.

As for internment, I would support the internment of Americas political class. We could solve our problems by following the finest of American traditions (Blood of tyrants and all that) instead of the worst. Without a class of politicians that cares about nothing other than itself running our country, the domestic Islamic terrorism issue wouldn't exist. These people leave plenty of clues that our laws won't let law enforcement pick up on, or equally bad, won't let them act on.

We both want the same thing, we just aggress in different directions. And yes, aggress is not an actual word. (not to my knowledge anyway)
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 21:21 Comments || Top||

#58  A global war between Islam and everyone else has been AQ's dream since Day One. Everything they've done has been to that end. And giving them their goal is not in Western Civilization's best interest.
Posted by: mrp || 06/29/2007 21:22 Comments || Top||

#59  You won't, and I won't support you for that very reason. You take a good point and good perspective into the bullshit zone, and nobody here (including me) will follow you. We (almost all?) know good and (suspected) bad muslims, just as I know good and bad people. To allow your self-fluffing rhetoric without response has been a shame and I won't do it any more. You're called out. I'm here less and less due to work and influences beyond my control (AB and .com's absences as well as... others returning), but you seem to spin further into narcissism-land with your boasts and threats. Grow up....if you can. Back your boasts with action or STFU
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 21:25 Comments || Top||

#60  and what, specifically are YOU prepared to do? Ima tired of the bullshit threats, rhetoric and preening. SAY IT

I want Islam banned as the massive violation of human rights that it is. What is unclear about this, Frank? Are you unwilling to see such a thing happen? What measures do you advocate in place of the ones I suggest? I'm more than willing to listen.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:30 Comments || Top||

#61  Are Americans racist? naaaah
Posted by: 8872 || 06/29/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||

#62  Are Americans racist? naaaah
Posted by: 8872 || 06/29/2007 21:40 Comments || Top||

#63  I am unwilling to declare a religious group suitable for conversion or genocide. Sorry I don't meet the zen std. I am willing to say that those who act to impose the caliphate/sharia standard are unsuitable for our society and have no place in western society - they can deport or die. Those who seek to use terror/force/subterfuge to undermine our (superior - no question) western civilization should, at best, be deported in one piece. At worst...multiple shipments. Bloodthirsty enuf for you?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 21:41 Comments || Top||

#64  If you wish to outlaw sharia, I'm with you completely.

Thank you, Mike N. I would hope that this is a no brainer. Now, what about those who advocate its installment?

As for internment, I would support the internment of Americas political class.

Dayum, you're almost ahead of the curve on me with that one. Again, I refer you to Srdja Trifkovic's words:
The elite class has every intention of continuing to “fight” the war on terrorism without naming the enemy, without revealing his beliefs, without unmasking his intentions, without offending his accomplices, without expelling his fifth columnists, and without ever daring to win. Their crime can and must be stopped. The founders of the United States overthrew the colonial government for offenses far lighter than those of which the traitor class is guilty.
[emphasis added]

We could solve our problems by following the finest of American traditions (Blood of tyrants and all that) instead of the worst.

Where would that leave us with our Muslim traitor population?

Without a class of politicians that cares about nothing other than itself running our country, the domestic Islamic terrorism issue wouldn't exist.

I think you are wrong on that one. Islamic aggression knows no bounds.

These people leave plenty of clues that our laws won't let law enforcement pick up on, or equally bad, won't let them act on.

Agreed. Political Correctness is crippling out ability to pursue and detain Islamic traitors.

We both want the same thing, we just aggress in different directions. And yes, aggress is not an actual word. (not to my knowledge anyway)

I'll close by asking that isn't it wonderful to live in a nation where we can agree to disagree?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:43 Comments || Top||

#65  racist? No - we dislike ignorant assholes. Strike a bone, 8872?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 21:44 Comments || Top||

#66  Frank, I say we put them in tent cities and feed them ham sandwiches. If they starve to death, so be it.

Then they can all bury each other.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 21:45 Comments || Top||

#67  I am willing to say that those who act to impose the caliphate/sharia standard are unsuitable for our society and have no place in western society - they can deport or die. Those who seek to use terror/force/subterfuge to undermine our (superior - no question) western civilization should, at best, be deported in one piece. At worst...multiple shipments. Bloodthirsty enuf for you?

Not bloodthirsty at all, Frank. Quite reasonable, really. As is so often the case, we are largely in agreement, despite your protestations. Now, how do you distinguish between the seditious Muslims and the "moderate" Muslims? Face the question squarely. Got an explanation for that taqiyya thingy?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:50 Comments || Top||

#68  C'mon, Frank, be open about it. You're among friends.
Posted by: 8872 || 06/29/2007 21:51 Comments || Top||

#69  #48. I bow before your erudition, Mr N.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 21:53 Comments || Top||

#70  Frank, I say we put them in tent cities and feed them ham sandwiches. If they starve to death, so be it.

Then they can all bury each other.


Whoa, Nellie! Mike N., I hope that you realize just how much we have suddenly come into total agreement. Thank you again for taking the time to clarify instead of the usual crapulence from other camp followers who love nothing more that pissing and moaning at syphillitic levels.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:53 Comments || Top||

#71  #50. Ah, one of those. Well, personally, Mike I think anybody over 21 who's a libertarian is a poster boy for eugenics.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 21:55 Comments || Top||

#72  Zenster, Redwatch needs people like you (you are white, aren't you?). Fill out the application and join Redwatch. Ein volk!
Posted by: 8872 || 06/29/2007 21:57 Comments || Top||

#73  Zen, you answered your question in your last response to me.

Political correctness is, to some extent, stopping law enforcement from finding out what is happening in these peoples homes and moskkks.

Let law enforcement find out what these people are saying and doing behind their public front.

Also note that, even with the political bullshit, law enforcement has done a damn good job since 9/11.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 21:59 Comments || Top||

#74  #71 feel free to lick the sweat off the back side of my balls as a way to show thanks for the tax dollars I spend to defend your country. If you're good, I'll let you have the piece of gum that I have tucked away in my foreskin.

Next time you guys get attacked by a gang, do us all a favor and handle it.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 22:08 Comments || Top||

#75  Let law enforcement find out what these people are saying and doing behind their public front.

Mike N., the problem is that law enforcement is doing an incredibly crappy job. If they weren't, I'd have far fewer objections. Point in case, CAIR. Why are they still operating when the anti-CAIR lawsuit defense prevailed to such an exceptional degree?

Also note that, even with the political bullshit, law enforcement has done a damn good job since 9/11.

Here, I refuse to argue. I do believe that security has improved, but with Bush still spouting the Religion of Peace™ [spit] bullshit, how can we be sure at all?

We are in danger. America's Muslims present the vast majority of that danger. I would rather have all of them deported in order to avoid a nuclear terrorist attack than to have even one of them here and risk such an atrocity. Far too many of them dream of such an abortion, so I'd rather see them all gone. Remember, each Islamic family represents something like $100,000 to $300,000 worth of burden upon the American social support system. So, what do we have to lose? I mean this very seriously, what would America suffer if it lost all of its Muslim immigrants and citizens as of tomorrow? I leave you with a paraphrase of .com's "moral authority code comanche" question: What redeeming feature is there to Islam? When someone can come up with an answer more that is than "ZERO", please let me know.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 22:17 Comments || Top||

#76  Now that I'm a little calmer, I'll try to reply. (I was worked up in my previous post)

Political correctness, Zen. Its the beginning and end of our problem when it comes to our domestic population.

Be honest with me, do you think CAIR would exist without the absurd level of political correctness that prevails today?

You yourself point to Bush touting that religion of peace garbage. We both know its pure crap, and so do our self absorbed politicians. Again, removing our current political mentality makes this kind of nonsense go away. Tossing them all in the slammer would certainly bring about an immediate course correction in our next politicians.

Without political correctness, the welfare state goes away, removing the magnet for leeches which eliminates the burden on the taxpayer.

I realize law enforcement is less than perfect to say the least. I have one story concerning that.

Remember that terrorist cell that got yanked out of Buffalo shortly after 9/11? My brother was one of the agents involved in that. He's currently doing counterterrorism in Iraq and will most certainly be doing it here when he returns. Give law enforcement the tools and they will smoke these f@ckers out so fast it'll make your head spin.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 22:39 Comments || Top||

#77  Zen, have you re-considered getting your own blog? Think of it as an satellite blog.

You have a super prolific style which which would lend itself to an entire blog.

You could still come here and you'd get a ready made group of likely supporters just like many other Rantburgers have done before you.

You are aware aren't you that you easily use more bandwidth x 3, than any other Rantburger. You dominate the conversations....often

It's not like you'd give up Rantburg, You'd have a chance to really develop topics, separating an event and the players into their historical and constituent parts so you could then draw likely lessons and from current events predict some outcomes. analysis IOW.

I recognize that it is not my blog, just a couple of thoughts..
Posted by: RD || 06/29/2007 22:41 Comments || Top||

#78  I understand you may take offense but really it wasn't intended.
Posted by: RD || 06/29/2007 22:43 Comments || Top||

#79  RD, zero harm, zero foul. I'm a retro kinda guy who isn't interested in having a personal blog. Your question is appropriate but not one of specific interest to me.

I have always done my best to return the favor to Rantburg. In fact, I'm on the verge of starting another recipe thread to share all of the non-pork recipes I have in my collection. I've held off due to how badly Fred has had to put up with the recent spam bombardments.

RD, please rest assured that I take no offense at your suggestion. I do my best to provide Rantburg with in-depth analysis of special scientific topics where I am able to contribute and am grateful for the chance to participate elsewhere. This is the only site which seems to take the threat of Islamic Terrorism seriously. That means the world to me.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 22:56 Comments || Top||

#80  Be sure to post some simple recipes for us bachelor types :) Please.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 22:59 Comments || Top||

#81  Can we all agree that a good, sound, perfectly legal and humane course of action would be to simply enforce border security for all groups and combine that with a ban on immigration from Muslim-majority countries?

Or does even that small security enhancement make some of the dubious posters on this thread squeamish?
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/29/2007 22:59 Comments || Top||

#82  Mike N. any chance of presenting an email address? It's sometimes nice to have, for a little "side" conversation.

Just something to consider.
Posted by: Sherry || 06/29/2007 23:05 Comments || Top||

#83  Controlling the borders would be a very good first step indeed.

Mike, next time you feel the need to share the status of your organs, do feel free not to. You might think what it costs Israel to stand between the Arab world and the rest of us, as once Poland in the east and Roland' Frenchmen in the west stood before their several Mulsim armies, the next time you feel your tax dollars are being stolen.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 23:07 Comments || Top||

#84  Or does even that small security enhancement make some of the dubious posters on this thread squeamish?

In a thread earlier this week I think a couple of us discussed some Kurdish interpreters whose families had suffered violence because they were working for coalition forces.

You (and others) may believe that a) all moslems are fanatics and therefore the enemy and b) that any actions to the contrary are just taqqiya, but it's not borne out by how both the enemy acts or how the people, mostly Moslem, the enemy is shooting at act.

I've been meaning to ask all of you people, what do you care most about? Winning the war, or losing it in an attempt to carry out your personal animosities?
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 06/29/2007 23:09 Comments || Top||

#85  AS-- let me be the first to stand up and say,"I'm for winning this war." I'll walk across that line, standing up straight, shoulders back, tummy in (well, at least as far as it will go) head straight, with that perfect angle of the chin forced forward. I'm in for winning!
Posted by: Sherry || 06/29/2007 23:15 Comments || Top||

#86  A small point, in the midst of all the shouting:

A great deal of what the various law enforcement agencies are doing, and the armed forces, too, is taking place under the radar and out of our sight. (Mike, on behalf of my darling in-laws who live in Lackawanna, please thank your brother for me.) CAIR, f'r instance, is remarkable for the way it connects to so very many bad guys, and for how adept it is at bringing the bad side of having Muslims in America to the attention of the peepul. The first makes it useful for tracing down and forestalling the bad guys, the second for moving public opinion and awareness. In the almost six years since 9/11, how has the opinion of Canadians changed toward the Muslims in their midst? Of the British toward the Muslims in theirs? How many Americans' are looking carefully at the behaviour of the robed chanters at airports? CAIR has done much to harm its cause, and to help ours. Shoot, how much has Rantburg's traffic grown since then, tracking that growing awareness? There are so many names now that are new to me, so many of Fred's clever anonymizers, that I've lost track of many of you who impressed me with your knowledge and wit. I apologize for that, and hope y'all will forgive my porous memory.

This is going to be a long war. Like in Iraq, give the troops time to finish what they started. Once the data base has enough connections, the arrests/expulsions/deaths in the night will accelerate.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 23:23 Comments || Top||

#87  Israels financial burden is hers to bare. She chose to put herself there. America did not give them that land, nor did we force them to move there, yet we help bare the financial burden required for her existence. We have for decades and there is no end in sight.

I'm not saying that we fund her completely. I realize we fund a relatively small portion. (2.6 billion I believe we give this year)

All I ask is that he shows some respect for his financiers. Even after Israels repeated betrayals, we stand by her. Maybe he could take that into consideration. I realize that he is the exception not the norm, but thankless welfare recipients are a phenomenom that we should not tolerate. Be they here or overseas.

He would do well to take a critical look at his country. Perhaps he may realize she is no more infallible than any other western nation.

I have to specify western because she is far closer to infallible than her neighbors for instance.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 23:25 Comments || Top||

#88  Tw, that's an excellent angle on CAIR. I've obviously never given proper consideration to there self defeating nature.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 23:29 Comments || Top||

#89  #74 I admit, I expected that post to be sinktrapped. Silly me.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 23:32 Comments || Top||

#90  Their. Their. Good lord, one would think that an American could at least bother himself with learning the English language.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 23:33 Comments || Top||

#91  I've noticed that, Mike. You haven't noticed how Israel has interposed her entire population between the Arabs and the West since 1948 either, or the science and technology, archeology and artists, that Israel has shared so freely with the rest of us, however much she is resented. Your tax dollars are a small part of the exchange, my dear.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 23:35 Comments || Top||

#92  A good point is worth making twice, I suppose.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 23:37 Comments || Top||

#93  TW -- I'll stand with that good point and that makes it three!
Posted by: Sherry || 06/29/2007 23:41 Comments || Top||

#94  Tw, many cultures share scientic achievement, engineering and cultural advances with the rest of the world. We owe no country for sharing as they owe us nothing for what we share. We also owe them nothing for their choice to exist there. I think we should continue to support them for several reasons, it would be gigantically stupid to abandon them, we should support democracies that are under fire, we should never leave an ally for mere convenience and most importantly, its the right thing to do, but I do not believe that we owe them that support.

Israel is in such a bad position that "canary in the coal mine" doesn't do it justice. They are the crew that went into the mine without any chance of a canary existing anywhere. The thing is, they chose it, not us.

Again, my problem is not with Israel, it is with the thankless and those that refuse to recognize that actions have consequences.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 23:52 Comments || Top||


Breaking: Police defuse bomb in central London
Sounds more like the IRA than Islamonuts.
British police said today they had defused a bomb in central London. Explosives officers were called to examine a car parked in The Haymarket, a central London street, early this morning, London police said in a statement. "They discovered what appeared to be a potentially viable explosive device. This was made safe,'' they said, adding that counter-terrorism officers were investigating.

A police spokesman confirmed the device was a bomb.

Police responded after a member of the public reported a suspicious vehicle shortly before 2am (1100 AEST). The street was sealed off while police investigated and was likely to remain closed for most of the morning, they said. The nearby Piccadilly Circus underground train station was open, but exit restrictions were in place, the police said.

More, courtesy of Tarzan Threck7932:
London escaped what could have been its worst terrorist attack this morning when a car bomb packed with nails, gas canisters and containers of petrol apparently failed to detonate outside a popular West End nightclub hosting a 'ladies' night'.

Police were called to Tiger Tiger nightclub in the West End shortly before 2am when smoke was seen coming from the inside of a Mercedes car parked outside. A man was seen running from the vehicle. Inside officers discovered a "significant quantity" of petrol, nails and gas cylinders. They used a remote-controlled device to check the vehicle before bomb squad officers made it safe.

If the bomb had exploded, police said that the shrapnel would have killed or injured anyone within a wide area. The bomb itself could have caused a fireball as big as a house followed by a large shock wave.

Authorities were called to the area when an ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the car.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism command, said: "It is obvious that if the device had detonated there could have been significant injury or loss of life.

"What the ambulance people saw was what they thought was smoke." He said the investigation would discover if it was smoke or something else.

Whitehall sources said that the police and security services are looking at possible international links - including similarities to car bombs used by insurgents in Iraq. "It is entirely possible. There are various things - it is outside a nightclub, it is a vehicle-borne device, it is close to the anniversary of the July 7 attacks," one source said. "But we are keeping an open mind."

Officers were contacted at 2am after the pale green Mercedes drove into a number of bins outside Tiger Tiger on Haymarket. Witnesses said that the driver of the vehicle jumped out of the car and ran away. Terry Neil, managing director of TSS, the firm which provides doormen for the club, said that his bouncers had called the police before promptly evacuating the premises. "We work very closely with Operation Griffin, the anti-terrorism thing, and the boys have been briefed as to what they should do. They did what they were trained to do," he said. "If it wasn’t for their awareness, it could have been sat there outside a club with 1,000 people in it. It’s a very busy road."

Mr Neil added that the club's cameras are "absolutely everwhere" around the club. "If you look at where it is, the camera should pick him up getting out of the car. It shouldn’t be long before they start putting out images."

The incident came on Gordon Brown's second full day in 10 Downing Street, marking his first real test as Prime Minister. Mr Brown was due to host a Cabinet meeting today and said that he would remind his ministers that "vigilance must be maintained".

As investigations at Haymarket continued, with the area almost completely closed off, there was a second alert close to London Bridge Station, where a street was temporarily closed to traffic while a suspicious car was examined. A massive manhunt began for the driver of the Haymarket vehicle, wiith police trawling through CCTV footage from the club and nearby streets. Congestion charge cameras situated throughout central London are also capable of tracking where the car came from, and which routes it took.

Terror groups like al-Qaeda are believed to have been planning attacks on nightclubs, which are considered by Islamic fundamentalists to be symbols of Western decadence. Earlier this year, a number of Islamist extremist terrorists were imprisoned for planning a number of major terror attacks, including a bomb attack on London's Ministry of Sound nightclub.

Tiger Tiger is a combined bar, restaurant and nightclub, part of a wider national chain, that opens from midday until the early hours of the morning. It has several floors, and is believed to have a capacity of over 1,000 - although staff said that only around 650 were in the club at the time of the incident. Last night was scheduled to be 'ladies' night' at the club, complete with female DJ.

Police this morning cordoned off a number of entrances and exits to Piccadilly Circus Tube station, which was then closed for safety reasons by Transport for London. The station is set to remain closed for much of the morning, along with roads all around the area.

In addition to their Haymarket investigation, police were thought to be conducting a huge operation around other London landmarks - including Tower Bridge and the Houses of Parliament - to search for other potential devices.

This morning Mr Brown said: "The first duty of the Government is the security of the people and as the police and security services have said on so many occasions we face a serious and continuous threat to our country.

"We should allow the police to investigate this incident and then report to us. But this incident does recall the need for us to be vigilant at all times and the public to be alert at any potential incidents.

"I will stress to the Cabinet that the vigilance must be maintained over the next few days".

Going into her meeting this morning, Ms Smith said: “What I think is very important is that the public remain vigilant at all times. Obviously the police are investigating and I think we should allow them to get on with that without undue speculation.”

The attempted attack comes as the current terror threat against the UK is assessed as "severe," the second highest level, meaning that intelligence analysts consider an attack highly likely. The highest level, "critical", means that an attack is expected imminently. Earlier this month security spot checks were introduced on petrol and chemical tankers, cement mixers - and other vehicles that could be used by suicide bombers - on key routes into London. That reflects increasing concern in the security services that UK terrorists might copy tactics used to deadly effect by insurgents in Iraq. Bombers in Baghdad have blown themselves up in hijacked petrol tankers and, in at least three attacks this year, have used chlorine gas canisters in lorry bombs.

The checks follow a warning this year by Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, that "vehicle-borne weaponry is the greatest danger that we can face". But Scotland Yard said on June 6 that it had no specific intelligence to suggest that a lorry-bomb attack was imminent. The Metropolitan Police's Counter-Terrorism Command set up the checks as a precautionary measure but they were then incorporated into Operation Mermaid, a long-running operation aimed at ensuring vehicle safety.

An al-Qaeda terrorist convicted last year had been planning vehicle-borne bomb attacks in London when he was arrested. Dhiren Barot pleaded guilty to plotting a series of attacks, including detailed plans to pack stretch limousines with gas cylinders and explosives and detonate them in car parks beneath hotels or office blocks.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/29/2007 04:31 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [783 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  Maybe not,

Bouncers from a nearby nightclub said they saw the car being driven erratically before it crashed into a bin. They said the driver then got out and ran off.

Reminds me of the Bali bomber who couldn't drive.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/29/2007 4:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Sounds like Paddy to me. Could be the darn injuns?
Picadilly was quiet this morning...
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/29/2007 5:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Sounds like a suicide bomber who got second thoughts.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/29/2007 6:00 Comments || Top||

#4  I hear the Paris Hilton cell is free.
Posted by: doc || 06/29/2007 6:44 Comments || Top||

#5  The IRA hasn't blown up anything since 1998. There has been a ceasefire since 1994 that is more or less observed. Unless there has been some significant change in the dynamics, I don't think it would be them. They generally don't go around blowing up people for no reason, they aren't muslim. But if they had a reason they sure would.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/29/2007 7:35 Comments || Top||

#6  More (with pix) here. Smells like the Religion of Peace(tm).
Posted by: Tarzan Threck7932 || 06/29/2007 7:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Sounds a lot like Bali, with Islamic Suicide Boy losing his nerve when the detonator failed.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 8:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Most assuredly not IRA. Not at all like their bomb tactics. Probability of Islamic source has to be well over 90%.

Seems to have been delivered far too early. With gasoline in the car, it may be that the driver became intoxicated by the fumes and failed to either engage the trigger or deliver it to its destination.

Between all the cameras and the somewhat unique purchases involved, they'll have an ID shortly.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/29/2007 8:26 Comments || Top||

#9  I agree w/ #3 and #6. ROP. They don't want the new PM to have even one Islam-free week. They're making their statement to Brown right away. Apparently Islam wasn't enough for this dude -- he got him self trashed to muster up the courage.
Posted by: Captain Lewis || 06/29/2007 8:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Early signs point to a home-made explosive that didn't go off as planned. Remember the second tube attack, the explosives fizzled.
Posted by: Steve || 06/29/2007 8:28 Comments || Top||

#11  Sounds a lot like Bali, with Islamic Suicide Boy losing his nerve when the detonator failed.

Yeah. And if the driver isn't a Brit, that whole driving on the left hand side of the street gig could explain some of the weaving. I drove in London once shudder LA, DC, Boston, NYC ... none of them frazzle me much, but add in not being able to see exactly where my car and the on-coming one were going to pass (or meet) in the middle was pretty nervewracking.
Posted by: lotp || 06/29/2007 8:51 Comments || Top||

#12  Meant for a bar called Tiger Tiger - where I do a lot of Friday night socialising. Looking like Islamonauts - shame the bouncers didn't get him.
Posted by: Howard UK || 06/29/2007 9:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Welcome to your new job, Mistah Brown...
Posted by: Pappy || 06/29/2007 9:33 Comments || Top||

#14  #12 Howard UK - yeah, but Thursday is big party night as you know - Ladies night flypaper for lads. I am still convinced it was headed for Whitehall and get near Downing. Lost his nerve and crashed into the skip.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/29/2007 10:07 Comments || Top||

#15  Hats off to the police who defused it.
Posted by: treo || 06/29/2007 10:10 Comments || Top||

#16  I bet this leads back to Pakistan.It always does.Any brits with pak origin should be deported or at least be forced to swear allegiance to the Queen or even more scarier for them forced to work for a living like the rest of us!Layabout victimhood,SCUM,COWARDS etc!!!!!!!!!!

What do they add to the UK economy/community relations-FECK all!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 06/29/2007 11:00 Comments || Top||

#17  > What do they add to the UK economy:Paul.

Thousands of jobs depend on these immigrants!





Benefit Processors.
Translators
Extra Police to cope with their criminality
Extra Police to cope with their terrorism
Extra Police to cope with their misogyny.
Extra Police to cope with their attacks on Jews.
Extra Prison Staff.
Extra Health workers to cope with genetic cripples from cousin marriage.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 06/29/2007 13:06 Comments || Top||

#18  Why would someone use a Mercedes for a car bomb and not something cheaper, like a Renault?
News report tomorrow will say this was just some incompetent amateurs, no threat at all, just ignore that man behind the curtain.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/29/2007 13:18 Comments || Top||

#19  Normally, I'd say the car was likely stolen. But with Islamists, I bet it's titled to a mosque.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/29/2007 13:45 Comments || Top||

#20  A Renault would break down miles away from the intended target. No self-respecting terrorist would use a French car.
Posted by: Jumbo Unoluger6443 || 06/29/2007 13:45 Comments || Top||

#21  Sounds like muzzies to me, including the crash and running away. Brave, brave lions of i-slam.

The West needs to wake up and understand that the entire non-muslim world is a target for these extremists, that the extremists make up from 5% to 15% of the muslim population (with differing degrees of extremism), and that 95% of those left are either sympathetic to the cause, or active in supporting it. The sooner the death cult of islam is wiped out, the better off the whole world will be.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/29/2007 14:39 Comments || Top||

#22  My comments about this are in the other thread. Bright Pebbles get close to the mark by noting all the extra manpower needed because of Islam. My post goes into greater detail about the global costs of Islamic terrorism. I'll only add that Silicon Valley's Mercury News newspaper carried this above the fold ON PAGE TEN. Wouldn't want the sheeple getting skittish.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 15:14 Comments || Top||


Europe
7 Maghrebans including an Algerian declared innocent
Italy Florence court released seven Maghreban arrested including an Algerian charged with belonging to a terrorist cell close to extremist organizations namely the Kurdish “Ansar al Islam” and the Algerian Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat GSPC. Aki press agency reported that five of the prosecuted persons since October 25th 2005, were arrested in May 2004 in their workplace located in Toscana territory including Rachid Mâamri, a former volunteer Imam in Florence mosque. Charges mention that the alleged cell was striving for collecting funds and recruiting people to lead terrorist operations in Iraq, and the Algerian was said to be the mastermind of the cell.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [246 views] Top|| File under: Ansar al-Islam


Home Front: WoT
London Bomber Identified. Guess Who?
British police have a "crystal clear" picture of the man who drove the bomb-rigged silver Mercedes outside a London nightclub, and officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com he bears "a close resemblance" to a man arrested by police in connection with another bomb plot but released for lack of evidence.

Officials say the suspect had been taken into custody in connection with the case of al Qaeda operative Dhiren Barot (pictured), who was convicted of orchestrating a vehicle bomb plot involving targets in London, New York, Newark, N.J. and Washington, D.C.

Officials say a surveillance camera caught the suspect "staggering from the Mercedes" shortly after parking it outside the Tiger Tiger nightclub.

U.S. and British law enforcement officials tell ABC News it is increasingly clear Friday's bomb plot in London involves multliple vehicles, and is described by a senior official as a "terror plot involving MI5 Mossad CIA Jehovah's Witnesses Fluffy Bunnies lslamic extremists."

Posted by: PlanetDan || 06/29/2007 17:17 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [326 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  When did he get out of Gitmo?
Posted by: Iblis || 06/29/2007 17:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Funny - he doesn't look Amish.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 17:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Muslims Fear Persecution. Film at eleven...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/29/2007 18:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Time for CAIR to step in.
Posted by: anymouse || 06/29/2007 18:32 Comments || Top||

#5  young Jimmy Smits?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/29/2007 19:03 Comments || Top||

#6  My money is that he is an eskimo. They have been waiting to strike at the west ever since we killed most of the whales.
Posted by: Charles || 06/29/2007 19:20 Comments || Top||

#7  No, they don't care that much about whales. It's seals they depend on. But what one can do when it is forbidden to club them? The anger builds up and needs release, whether clubbing someone by a baseball bat or a bomb.
Posted by: zazz || 06/29/2007 19:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Rosie O'Donnell?
Posted by: Brett || 06/29/2007 20:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Rosie's mustache is much more robust...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/29/2007 21:04 Comments || Top||

#10  Qu'elle surprise!
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:11 Comments || Top||

#11  Lots of details here.
The first car, which had been stolen in Scotland, was found about 2:30 a.m. parked under a blue awning near the popular Tiger Tiger nightclub, which was jammed with as many as 2,000 people on Ladies Night.

Authorities believe it was intended to be set off by remote control by a cell phone found inside. The cell phone had received at least two calls, which should have detonated several gallons of gasoline, but when the calls came in, the bomb failed to go off, the official said.

Had it done so, that blast then would have ignited six to eight tanks of propane in a mist to make a fuel-air explosion, creating a fireball the size of a small house and propelling 18 to 20 boxes of roofing nails around a large area at bullet speed, counterterrorism officials said.
...
Police did not name the three men they were seeking, but they said the men were believed to be from the Birmingham area, home to Britain’s second-largest Muslim population and a strong recruiting base for the controversial Muslim group Hizb ut-Tahrir, or the Party of Liberation.

They said one of the three men could be an associate of Dhiren Bharot, an Indian convert to Islam who was sentenced to life in prison last year for plotting to fill limousines with explosives similar to those found Friday and park them in garages beneath hotels and office complexes.
...
The first car was immediately recognized as a threat and disarmed at the scene. The second car, however, sat unrecognized for most of the day after it was hitched up to a tow truck and carted down London’s streets to a police impoundment lot, its deadly payload intact for the entire trip.

The two bombs were parked between Piccadilly Circus and Trafalgar Square. Map at link.
Posted by: ed || 06/29/2007 21:12 Comments || Top||

#12  The cell phone had received at least two calls, which should have detonated several gallons of gasoline, but when the calls came in, the bomb failed to go off, the official said.

That would explain the smoke pouring out of the car.
Posted by: ed || 06/29/2007 21:14 Comments || Top||

#13  What, no rat poison to enhance hemorrhaging in the victims? They're slipping.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 21:26 Comments || Top||

#14  Link: 3 sought after 2nd car bomb found in London
Posted by: ed || 06/29/2007 21:32 Comments || Top||

#15  CAIR is already warning about an anti-Muslim backlash following tomorrow's scheduled attack.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/29/2007 22:39 Comments || Top||

#16  CAIR is already warning about an anti-Muslim backlash following tomorrow's scheduled attack.

They probably had advanced notice.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 22:59 Comments || Top||

#17  I think Muslims are quite safe. A backlash only happens when a population is confronted with something unexpected.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/29/2007 23:50 Comments || Top||


Man arrested after ton of pyrotechnics chemical found in NYC
NEW YORK -- The order made a vendor anxious: a large amount of chemicals, destined for a buyer who had ordered a vast quantity of the same substance before, authorities said. The vendor's concerns sent police and federal agents to a Staten Island home and the discovery of more than a ton of potassium nitrate _ a substance often used in pyrotechnics.

A resident of the home was arrested on a reckless endangerment charge, police said Friday. Police spokesman Paul Browne said there was no evidence that the suspect, identified as 57-year-old Miguel Serrano, was involved in making bombs or selling bomb-making materials.

Police said they found the large cache of potassium nitrate Thursday evening in a storage facility near Serrano's home in the Graniteville area, on the west side of Staten Island. Small amounts of potassium nitrate, mercury, peroxide and sulfur were found inside the residence, authorities said.

Serrano was apparently selling the chemicals in smaller quantities on the Internet, authorities said. No telephone number for Serrano could be found at the address police gave for him. Police weren't certain early Friday whether he had a lawyer. The area around the house was cordoned off, and the surrounding block was evacuated for hours, as authorities removed the chemicals. Police said early Friday that residents had been allowed back in.

Nicole Bermudez, 13, said police knocked on her door about 6:30 p.m. Thursday, telling her family to evacuate. "We grabbed our things and left. We were scared," she said. Rumors circulated for a time that a more sinister chemical had been found, and resident John Mausch, 46, said he was only somewhat relieved when he found out the substance was potassium nitrate. "I came out and saw all the police _ I got very alarmed," he said.

Joseph Green, a senior special agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives, said an Ohio vendor who deals with chemicals told the agency Thursday that a Staten Island resident had ordered a large quantity of chemicals. The vendor apparently became alarmed because of the buyer's previous large order, which had been delivered.
Posted by: || 06/29/2007 13:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe he was just want some Fourth of July fireworks.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 06/29/2007 14:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Heh. This reminds me of a friend of mine. He was doing some pyrotechnics work in the states and decided to take a gig in Canada. Got stopped by the Candians. To make a long story short, the ordeal ended when it, literally, blew up in one of the agents faces.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/29/2007 15:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Potassium nitrate in quantity? No doubt he was troubled by overactive masculinity. What a pity potassium nitrate isn't actually effective for the purpose... and now he'll be locked away from any possibility of remedy, poor man. Wasn't it St. Paul who said, " 'Tis better to marry than explode?"
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 17:04 Comments || Top||

#4  He was just stocking up to make hams. Serrano hams. {;^)
Posted by: Parabellum || 06/29/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#5  I had picked up this story last night as it was breaking and am pretty familiar with the area. The guy was apparently buying chemicals in bulk and reselling them for a profit.

However, this guy had a criminal record but was apparently also operating a charity and ministry out of the house as well. The bulk of the chemicals were found at a storage facility nearby.
Posted by: lawhawk || 06/29/2007 22:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Good to know, lawhawk. Thanks.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 22:56 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Police foils fidayeen attack on army in Kupwara
The police today foiled a fidayeen (suicide) attack on the Indian Army by eliminating three militants near Kupwara. According to Senior Superintendent of Police, Kupwara, they received specific information that some militants were planning to launch a suicide attack on 28 DIV Headquarters of the Indian Army at Shalkote, which is located only a few kilometres away from Kupwara.

The militants were travelling in a blue Maruti van, when they were intercepted by police. The militants opened indiscriminate fire on police which was retaliated, and in the ensuing cross fire, police gunned down three suicide bombers.The SSP said that fidayeen were wearing army uniforms and combatant shoes. Three AK, rifles nine grenades, one radio set and 287 rounds were recovered from the slain militants.

Meanwhile, the army today apprehended two persons and recovered two Chinese grenades and one IED from their house near Srinagar.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [261 views] Top|| File under: Hizbul Mujaheddin

#1  Man Ima never try conjugating foil, bad juju ist.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/29/2007 2:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Good Lord, I was up at 2 a.m.? Hummm.... ah well, Bach did his best work in a fugue.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/29/2007 10:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Man Ima never try conjugating foil

I just crumple it and toss it into the recycling bin, myself ....
Posted by: lotp || 06/29/2007 11:00 Comments || Top||

#4  two interesting thoughts here:

first, there was no 'detaining,' but rather outright deading.

and second, another report of a blue vehicle; is blue special in the muzzie circus?
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 06/29/2007 15:16 Comments || Top||


Three killed while planting bomb
Three militants died when a bomb they were planting on a road used by the Pakistan army detonated prematurely in a tribal area bordering Afghanistan. The three were killed at Datta Khel in Waziristan late on Wednesday “while planting an improvised explosive device”, a security official said. The blast occurred on a route used by troops to travel between Lwara Mundi and Miranshah.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [283 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Fred, I can always count on you to lighten my day with the world's most ironic illustrations. LOL.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/29/2007 10:09 Comments || Top||


Landmines kill soldier, wound 7
A soldier was killed and seven other people wounded in two separate landmine blasts in Balochistan province, officials said on Thursday. Army personnel were wounded when their vehicle hit a landmine planted by suspected tribal rebels in Dera Bugti district late Wednesday, a paramilitary forces spokesman said. Four tribesmen were wounded in a separate landmine explosion early Thursday in the same area, he added.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [251 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Iraq
Appropriate Self-Defense Measures Taken - 3 Terrorist Offed
BAGHDAD, Iraq – Coalition Forces killed three terrorists and detained 26 suspected terrorists during operations Friday targeting al-Qaeda in Iraq senior leaders and bombing networks.

East of Fallujah, Coalition Forces continued operations to disrupt the al-Qaeda in Iraq senior leader network during a raid on several buildings east of Fallujah. As they approached the target, the ground forces saw a man holding a grenade. In response to the hostile threat, Coalition Forces took appropriate self-defense measures and engaged the armed man, killing him.

As the ground forces moved to the next building, they encountered a man wearing a suicide vest. Coalition Forces responded appropriately to the hostile threat and engaged the man in self-defense, killing him. Another man associated with the terrorist in the suicide vest ran outside into a patch of reeds. After the man repeatedly ignored a translator’s instructions to come out, ground forces took appropriate self-defense measures and engaged the man, killing him.

The ground forces detained 16 suspected terrorists on the scene for their alleged ties to a top-level al-Qaeda in Iraq leader who operates in the area.

Also in Anbar province, Coalition Forces raided two buildings northeast of Karmah where they suspected terrorists were staying. The ground forces captured four individuals at the scene, including one man who allegedly has ties to a senior al-Qaeda leader who was killed during a May 1 Coalition operation.

Just south of Baghdad, Coalition Forces raided a building in search of a suspected gatekeeper for a leader in the Baghdad vehicle-borne improvised explosive device network. During a search of the building, the ground forces detained two suspected terrorists and moved to a second building where they found and captured the suspected gatekeeper.

Coalition Forces captured a close associate of the suspected military commander for al-Qaeda forces in the Tarmiyah area during a raid west of the town.

In Mosul, Coalition Forces detained two suspected terrorists while targeting the alleged al-Qaeda emir in Kirkuk, responsible for issuing fatwas.

“We’re continuing to target the top of the terrorist network, as well as the operatives who carry out their murderous actions,” said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, MNF-I spokesperson.

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 06/29/2007 13:47 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  we need mopre self defense memasures if that means killing the shit out of them
Posted by: sinse || 06/29/2007 15:13 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder if for some of our operations, we have taken to using silencers. They would be terribly un-Islamic, the very concept of silent fighting abhorrent to imbeciles who jump up on something and start hosing in all directions while screaming.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 17:09 Comments || Top||


Current Iraq Offensive w/Operational Map
Iraqi and Coalition forces maintain the pressure against al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents, and the "rogue," Iranian backed "secret cells" of the Mahdi Army and the Qazali network. Operation Phantom Thunder is underway inside Baghdad and the Belts, as well as against al Qaeda's network nationwide. Also, the northwestern region of Iraq has been a focus of U.S. and Iraqi operations. The simultaneous operations to pressure al Qaeda's network are occurring in all theaters throughout Iraq. An update on each theater is provided below.

Coalition forces continue strike at al Qaeda's leadership cells. Multinational Forces Iraq confirmed two senior al Qaeda operatives were killed on June 23. "Mehmet Yilmaz, also known as Khalid al-Turki, was a known terrorist and senior leader in al-Qaeda who operated a cell that facilitated the movement of foreign fighters into Iraq for al-Qaeda operations," Multinational Forces Iraq reported. Yilmaz was a global terrorist, with roots back to Pakistan. "Yilmaz was an al-Qaeda leader who led a group of Turks to Afghanistan in 2001 to fight against Coalition Forces. Intelligence reports indicate he was wounded in the fighting there and went to Pakistan for treatment, where he was captured by the government in 2004 and deported to Turkey. He was released in late 2005 and returned to al-Qaeda operations in 2006, moving his operations to Iraq."

Coalition forces also killed Mehmet Resit Isik, also known as Khalil al-Turki. Isik was "a close associate of Yilmaz who was assessed to be a courier for the same al-Qaeda cell and a close associate of Yilmaz and senior leaders within al-Qaeda."

Two al Qaeda operatives were killed and two captured in raids on Tuesday in Bayji, Mosul, and Baghdad . Wednesday's raids in Mosul and Baghdad resulted in six al Qaeda operatives captured. One of those captured in Mosul "is believed to have replaced the al-Qaeda emir of east Mosul after his capture May 31." Al Qaeda's Mosul network has become a focus of Coalition efforts of late. The network has regenerated since Ansar al-Sunnah merged with al Qaeda this spring.

Eleven days after Operation Arrowhead Ripper kicked off in the provincial capital of Baqubah, Coalition and Iraqi forces have been conducting operations throughout the province. In Baqubah, "at least 60 al-Qaida operatives have been killed, 74 have been detained, 31 weapons caches have been discovered, 81 improvised explosive devices have been destroyed and 18 booby-trapped structures have been destroyed," since the start of Arrowhead Ripper, Multinational Forces Iraq reported.

Coalition and Iraqi forces have also distributed "approximately 265,000 pounds of rice and flour ... handed out over 10,000 vegetarian humanitarian rations, and thousands of bottles of water." An al Qaeda warehouse "filled with food seized by al-Qaeda from Government of Iraq food shipments to the city" was found by Iraqi troops in the Khatoon neighborhood.

A joint Iraqi and U.S. operation in Muqdadiyah and the Hamrin mountains resulted in the capture of 18 al Qaeda fighters, while Iraqi soldiers captured five al Qaeda operatives in an operation in nearby Balad Ruz. Two "gunmen" were killed during a raid near Al Thurah, north of Muqdadiyah. In Khalis, Iraqi Police intervened after two villages conducted a battle which resulted in four killed and 19 wounded.

In addition to the operations in Diyala and the raids against al Qaeda's network in Mosul, the northern theater has seen an increase in operational tempo from Iraqi and U.S. security forces. With operations ongoing inside Baghdad and in the belts, this region is the natural fall-back position for the terror network.

Iraqi Police and Army units are the main targets of al Qaeda and insurgent attacks in Salahadin and Ninewa provinces. There is one U.S. combat brigade in each province, and Ninewa is Iraq's second most populated province. The Iraqi security forces shoulder the majority of the security in the north. Four Iraqi police were killed in an ambush near Kirkuk on Wednesday.

Joint U.S. and Iraqi operations in Mosul and Tal Afar resulted in the capture of 25 suspected insurgents. Another five al Qaeda operatives were captured in a raid near Mosul.

In the city of Taji in Salahadin province, the newly formed neighborhood watch turned in another large weapons cache. In Tikrit, fourteen insurgents died in a "work accident" when the truck bomb they were assembling detonated prematurely.

As part of Operation Phantom Thunder, Northern Babil Province has been split into two major theaters: the area around Arab Jabour (Operation Marne Torch) in the southeast, and the area around Mahmudiyah (Operation Commando Eagle) in the southwest.

In the southeast, six insurgents were killed near Salman Pak after about 30 attacked an Iraqi National Police station and checkpoint. A British Royal Air Force GR-4 Tornado and two U.S. Army OH-58D helicopters fired at the insurgents in support of the Iraqi nationals Police. Also, two more insurgents were killed and seven captured in the village of Al Dura’iya, and one insurgent was killed and another wounded "south of Baghdad."

In the southwest, a recruiting drive in the city of Yusufiyah netted over 1,200 volunteers. Only 200 applicants were expected, and 252 were accepted. "The surplus applications – including one from a local woman - will be kept and as the JSS expands, those individuals will be the first called for new hires," Multinational Forces Iraq stated. Further south in Najaf, Iraqi security forces arrested an al Qaeda operative.

Clearing operations continue in the capital as al Qaeda conducted two successful mass casualty attacks. A car bomb attack in the western Rashid neighborhood of Al-Bayaa killed 21 civilians and wounded 42, while a suicide attack in the Kadhimiyah neighborhood in northern Baghdad killed 10 and wounded 15.

U.S. and Iraqi forces are still in the process of clearing the Rashid district. Eleven IEDs were found in Rashid and several insurgent attacks were defeated on June 25 and 26. Iraqi security forces "killed 14 gunmen, captured 114 others and arrested 2 suspected militants in several areas of Baghdad during the past 24 hours," Voices of Iraq reported. "The forces managed also to free three captives, defuse two bombs and confiscate large amount of weapons and ammunition in different areas of Baghdad, mainly in Kadhimiyah City in northern Baghdad." U.S. forces also captured six insurgents in eastern Baghdad.

Eastern Anbar Province

Reporting on Operation Fahrad Al Amin in eastern Anbar province has been virtually non-existent. While Iraqi and Coalition forces have been solidifying the police presence in Fallujah and are conducting operations in Karma and the Thar Thar region, the eastern Anbar theater has surprisingly been quiet.

Mahdi and the Iranian Cells

Both the United States and Britain continue to point the finger at Iran and the Qods Force involvement in training, funding, arming, and planning attacks against Coalition and Iraqi forces inside Iraq. Operations continue to target these Iranian backed secret cells, which include the Qazali Network and "rogue" elements of Muqtada al Sadr's Mahdi Army.

"Iraqi Special Operations Forces, Iraqi Police and Iraqi Army forces destroyed a large weapons cache during an early morning operation June 26 southeast of Nasiriyah," Multinational Forces Iraq reported. "The cache is linked to a rogue Jaysh Al-Mahdi (JAM or Mahdi Army) militant group." One suspect was detained in the operation.

Meanwhile, Muqtada al Sadr continues to attempt to brand himself as a nationalist leader since his return last month from a four-month, self-imposed exile in Iran. Sadr plans to carry out a march to Samarra's al-Askaria mosque on July 5, which was destroyed in attacks in February 2006 and May 2007. Sadr's past two demonstrations failed to draw more than ten thousand protesters, when in the past he would draw hundreds of thousands.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 11:39 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [295 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  I suspect a memo has gone out to subordinate commanders: "Gentlemen, the clock is ticking."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/29/2007 13:09 Comments || Top||

#2  "in Tikrit, fourteen insurgents died in a "work accident" when the truck bomb they were assembling detonated prematurely"

News that just makes my day!
Are they running out of 'first team' bomb makers, or have we deployed my conceptual premature bomb detonator?
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/29/2007 13:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Many bomb triggering mechanisms are unforgiving of mistakes. A deadman's switch often is.

The best bombmakers leave the assembly to their staff. Make that, the living bombmakers.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/29/2007 13:30 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder if some US hackers haven't gone in and done some "tinkering" with the online jihadi bomb plans, causing some of these "work accidents". As Chuck said, some of the more sophisticated detonators take skill to connect. A simple movement of two wires can cause premature explosions. In the same vein, the "recipe" for TAPT(?) can be easily manipulated to cause an explosion. The recipe for C-4, which CAN be made in a kitchen if you never want to use it for food preparation again, is equally as volatile. Anything dealing with ammonium nitrate to ammonium nitrite conversion is equally as delicate, as is extracting nitroglycerine from TNT. It would be a treat to mess with the minds of the mullahs and their minions, as much and as often as possible.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/29/2007 15:04 Comments || Top||

#5  No offense, #4 OP, but I don't think I want to be within a hundred miles of your kitchen makeover!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 17:55 Comments || Top||

#6  I know from first hand experience EXACTLY how unstable TAPT and some other home brew explosives can be. Fortuantely no underachiving late-adolescents were harmed, but the world is short one camper-trailer.
Posted by: Abu do you love || 06/29/2007 21:50 Comments || Top||


Slow Week in Iraq
State Department weekly summary. Highlights:
1. Defeat the Terrorists and Neutralize the Insurgents


Coalition and Iraqi forces launched Operation Arrowhead Ripper June 19, a large-scale effort to eliminate al-Qaida in Diyala province. As of June 21, at least 51 al-Qaida operatives have been killed, 20 detained, 7 weapon caches discovered, 21 improvised explosive devices destroyed, and 9 booby-trapped structures destroyed. The newly formed Diyala Operations Center is playing a key role, integrating the activities of the local Iraqi police, the Iraqi Army, and Coalition forces. Approximately 10,000 soldiers, with a full complement of combined arms, are taking part in the operation.

2. Transition Iraq to Security Self-Reliance

Iraqi Police from surrounding areas held a recruiting drive in the city of Lutifiyah, south of Baghdad, June 17. The Iraqi-planned recruiting event resulted in a strong turnout with over 100 men applying for Iraqi Police training.

3. Help Iraqis to Forge a National Compact for Democratic Government

Iraq's Council of Representatives (CoR) voted to extend its activities through the month of July to finalize draft laws that have yet to be fully debated or voted upon. Iraqi CoR member Wa’il Abd al-Latif stated that the parliament's decision came after voting over a proposal by the speakership board to finalize approximately 50 draft laws, including the postponement of the constitutional review committee's work and the draft law on oil.

4. Help Iraq Build Government Capacity and Provide Essential Services

Up to 24,000 residents of Abu Fillis will receive clean potable water from the completed, U.S.-funded Rural Water Supply Abu Fillis (G5) project, in Ramadi, al-Anbar province.

5. Help Iraq Strengthen Its Economy

Chinese Commerce Minister Bo Xilai and three Iraqi ministers signed a deal June 21 to cancel Iraq’s approximately $2.85 million in sovereign debt to China’s government. No details were given on the debt relief and state media reported only that Premier Wen Jiabao told visiting Iraqi President Jalal Talabani that China would help train Iraqi personnel to upgrade Iraq’s medical and educational capacities.

6. Help Iraq Strengthen the Rule of Law

On June 24,Iraqi Judge Muhammad Oraibi al-Khalifa sentenced Saddam Hussein's cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid and two other former regime officials to death by hanging for their roles in a 1980s campaign that led to the deaths of 180,000 Kurds. Known as “Chemical Ali”, al-Majid earned his nickname for his alleged use of chemical weapons against the ethnic minority during efforts to crush a rebellion in the north." The court convicted al-Majid of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes for ordering army and security services to use chemical weapons in a large-scale offensive that killed or maimed thousands.

7. International Support for Iraq

Gordon Brown assumed leadership of Britain's Labor Party June 24, paving the way for him to take over as prime minister later in the week. Brown did not confirm any plans for additional withdrawals of UK forces, but did commit that Britain would “learn lessons that need to be learned” from Iraq.

8. Strengthen Public Understanding of Coalition Efforts and Public Isolation of the Insurgents

The United Nations Children’s Fund denounced the neglect and abuse of children in a Baghdad orphanage as “totally unacceptable” June 22 and urged the Iraqi government to carry out a review of all children’s care homes as soon as possible.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/29/2007 05:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [303 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  5 US troops killed, 7 hurt in s. Baghdad attack
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 7:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Over 300 terrs killed in June in Iraq.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/29/2007 9:28 Comments || Top||

#3  5 US troops =/= 300 Arabs.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/29/2007 14:22 Comments || Top||


Bombing kills 22 at Baghdad bus station
Jihadis loves them some mass transportation...lots o' bodies, plenty plenty teevee.
A car bomb exploded Thursday at a bus station in a mostly Shiite west Baghdad neighborhood, killing 22 people. Officials received word that 20 decapitated bodies had been found near the capital but were unable to confirm the report because of fighting.

In addition to the dead, more than 50 people were wounded in the rush-hour blast in the Baiyaa neighborhood, police said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information.

A huge fireball incinerated about 40 minibuses as people were lining up to catch rides to work, police and survivors said.

Associated Press Television News video showed the area littered with smoldering vehicle parts and charred bodies — their clothing in tatters. Bystanders, some weeping, gingerly loaded human remains into ambulances and pickup trucks.

No group claimed responsibility for the blast, but suspicion fell on Sunni militants.

Baiyaa is a mixed neighborhood with a Shiite majority, part of a string of neighborhoods just south of the main road to Baghdad International Airport where sectarian tensions have been running high.

One American soldier was killed Thursday and another was wounded by a roadside bombing during a combat patrol in eastern Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

To the south, two policemen from separate commands said villagers had reported finding 20 beheaded bodies near the Sunni Muslim village of Um al-Abeed. The village is near the city of Salman Pak, 15 miles southeast of the capital.

Villagers said the victims were all men aged 20 to 40 and that their hands and legs had been bound, the two officers said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release the information.

Another police officer in eastern Baghdad said officials had heard the report and tried to send a force to the area to confirm it. The visit was called off because the area was too dangerous because of clashes between police commandos and extremists.

An official in Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office said he had seen no such report. He also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not supposed to talk to media.

Maj. Alayne Conway, a U.S. military spokeswoman, said U.S. aircraft spotted what appeared to be five bodies on the east side of the Tigris River north of Salman Pak. American ground troops were sent to investigate but could not find the bodies.

Salman Pak and the surrounding area have been the focus of new U.S. military operations to oust extremists from the Baghdad's outskirts. Salman Pak was once a major headquarters for Saddam Hussein's security services and was long reported to be a training center for non-Iraqi Arab terrorists.

Both Sunni and Shiite extremists operate in the area, long a flashpoint of sectarian tension.

Fears of more sectarian violence rose Thursday when radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr vowed to go ahead with a planned march July 5 to the devastated Askariya shrine in Samarra.

Al-Sadr, head of the notorious Mahdi Army militia, said the goal was to unite Sunnis and Shiites against the Americans and Sunni extremists responsible for attacks against civilians.

But the government and Sunni organizations have urged al-Sadr to cancel the march, fearing it will provoke attacks by Sunni insurgents and further enflame sectarian violence.

The Feb. 22, 2006 bombing of the Askariya shrine provoked a wave of Shiite-Sunni reprisal killings that plunged the nation to the brink of all-out sectarian war. A blast June 13 destroyed two minarets that had survived the 2006 explosion.

At least 51 people were killed or found dead across the country Thursday, according to police reports.

They included three people who died when mortar shells slammed into the Shorja market in central Baghdad. At least 14 people were wounded in the market attack, said a policeman on condition of anonymity as he was not authorized to talk to media.

Also Thursday, the British military said three British soldiers were killed in a roadside bomb in southern Iraq.

The bomb exploded near the soldiers' vehicle late Wednesday southeast of Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, the military said in a statement. Another soldier was wounded in the blast and was in stable condition at a military hospital, it said.

Posted by: lotp || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [263 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Palestinian taxi driver with axe in car arrested
IDF troops arrested a Palestinian taxi driver on Thursday night after finding an axe in the car during a routine check at the Kalandiya checkpoint, near Ramallah. The axe was confiscated, and the man was transferred to security for questioning.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [267 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We need to pass tougher Ax Control legislation. We need to make the Ax manufacturers liable of deaths caused by their products.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/29/2007 7:46 Comments || Top||

#2  But, his cab was a Prius. So, I think he should get a pass on the little ax incident since he's so obviously progressive regarding the environment.
Posted by: Captain Lewis || 06/29/2007 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  A simple, and not so well armed, amateur woodcutter.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 9:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Axes don't kill people.
People kill people.
Posted by: borgboy2001 || 06/29/2007 13:56 Comments || Top||

#5  its Eubonics at work: as in "He Axed me fo' a ride..."
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 06/29/2007 16:43 Comments || Top||


IDF troops arrest three Palestinians in W. Bank
IDF troops arrested three Palestinian fugitives, including a Tanzim operative, in the West Bank overnight Thursday. Troops also found a number of pipe bombs and several grenades during operations in Nablus.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [279 views] Top|| File under: Fatah


Southeast Asia
Thai jihadi killed in escape attempt
A detained separatist rebel terrorist in Yala was killed as he tried to escape during the night, police said Friday. The 43-year-old man was arrested and on his way in a police vehicle heading to jail when militants opened fire in attempt to help him escape, police said. The detained suspect was killed during the brief gun battle between the police and the militants. He had been arrested in Yala province as he was on a list of militants considered to be a threat to national security.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/29/2007 00:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under: Thai Insurgency

#1  Have they no stutter guns, no deadly crossfire?
Posted by: Steven || 06/29/2007 12:39 Comments || Top||

#2  bet he died from the "one bullet" 'struck'..
Posted by: RD || 06/29/2007 13:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Now, now folks. There's always a learning curve...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/29/2007 14:06 Comments || Top||

#4  If you can't free your comrades, kill them so they can't talk. Nice people, these muzzie "insurgents".
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/29/2007 20:58 Comments || Top||


RP verifying whether top terror suspect escaped southern island
Philippine officials said Thursday they believe a top Indonesian terror suspect is still hiding on southern Jolo island, amid reports he had slipped out to escape a U.S.-backed manhunt. Army Brig. Gen. Ruperto Pabustan, who heads an anti-terrorism force on Jolo, said Dulmatin was still there, based on the latest information. A military intelligence officer said he might have fled for neighboring Malaysia. "We still believe that he could not turn his back on Umar Patek, who we believe is also still here," Pabustan told The Associated Press by telephone from Jolo, about 950 kilometers (590 miles) south of Manila.

Dulmatin and Umar Patek, another militant from the Indonesia-based group Jemaah Islamiyah, are believed to have fled to the southern Philippines in 2003 to escape a massive Indonesian manhunt after they were implicated in the 2002 Bali nightclub bombings that killed 202 people. They have been together since the 1990s in the eastern Indonesian city of Ambon, where Muslims and Christians fought bloody battles, according to an intelligence report. Washington has offered a US$10 million (euro7.4 million) reward for the capture or killing of Dulmatin, an expert bomb-maker who has been identified by his wife as Ammar Usman from Indonesia's Petarukan region.

A military intelligence officer said Dulmatin appeared to have fled in recent weeks toward Malaysia, citing military tracking of his communications. A police intelligence officer said Dulmatin has slipped out of Jolo but may still be in the southern Philippines, assessing whether it would be safe for him to return to Indonesia, where a recent crackdown led to the fall of Jemaah Islamiyah's top twoleaders. Dulmatin was last monitored on May 10 on Simunol island, in Tawi Tawi province near Jolo, where government troops found his four children but failed to capture him after he apparently detected the pre-dawn raid.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [369 views] Top|| File under: Jemaah Islamiyah


Sri Lanka
Sri Lankan jets bomb rebel camps
Sri Lankan fighter jets bombed two Tamil Tiger camps in the island’s far north on Thursday, the military said, the second batch of air strikes in three days, but there were no immediate details of any casualties.

In a separate incident, two soldiers were killed in the army-held northern Jaffna peninsula by a roadside bomb while Sri Lankan troops killed 11 Tamil Tigers in the east. “Troops have confronted some terrorists fleeing from Thoppigala (in the east) and were able to kill 11 of them and recover weapons and radio sets,” said an official at the Media Centre for National Security, who asked not to be identified.

“We have hit a military base in Mullaithivu (on the northeast coast) - it is really two camps located close to one another,” said military spokesman Brigadier Prasad Samarasinghe. The separatist Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam were not immediately available for comment and there was no independent confirmation of what had been hit.

Samarasinghe said troops were clearing booby traps and landmines in jungle in the restive eastern district of Batticaloa, where rebels are hemmed into ever-decreasing pockets of territory in the face of an army offensive. “There are a lot of landmines there. Yesterday, two of our soldiers lost their legs because of them.” He said troops were facing only sporadic fire, after weeks of heavy fighting in a major operation to drive the Tigers from territory they held in the east altogether. Fighting is now focused on the north, where the Tigers run a de facto state.

Government officials are eyeing long-delayed local government polls in the east to cement a civil administration in a bid to permanently displace the Tigers from the area, although the island’s elections commissioner say no such plans are yet afoot. The Tigers have warned that while they may have moved geographically, they will use all means to fight for an independent state in the north and east. reuters

Optimism over peace meet: Meanwhile, Sri Lanka’s Foreign Minister Rohitha Bogollagama said Thursday he was optimistic that a meeting of top donors this week would help to revive the island nation’s moribund peace process. Peace broker Norway is holding the crucial meeting of Sri Lanka’s top aid donors in a bid to halt a new wave of bloodshed. “We are expecting a very favourable development. The outcome is expected to encourage the current peace process toward contributing to the sustainability of our country,” said Bogollagma. Oslo-brokered peace talks collapsed in October last year and since then diplomatic efforts have failed to end violence in the bitter ethnic conflict which has claimed more than 60,000 lives in the past 35 years.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Angry protesters in Iran torch gas stations
Iranians smashed shop windows and set fire to a dozen gas stations in the capital Wednesday, angered by the sudden start of a fuel rationing system that threatens to further increase the unpopularity of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Police were sent to guard some stations after the violence, and there was calm during the day as motorists lined up to fill their tanks under the new restrictions. The government had been warning for weeks that rationing was coming, but the announcement of its start just three hours before the plan took effect at midnight Tuesday startled people and sent them rushing to get one last fill-up.
Posted by: Fred || 06/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  The gummint is going to give us less gas, so we'll burn up the gas we can get - that'll show 'em!

Need an emergency shipment of matches, guys?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 0:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Read late, somewhere today, that the Iranian "government" was shutting down any reports of any burnings or violence about this gas shortage thingy from being reported. Makes one wonder what happened on Thursday and what is happening on Friday, since all we have are the Wednesday reports.
Posted by: Sherry || 06/29/2007 0:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Hope whatever it is, it's half as good as I imagine, Sherry. ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/29/2007 0:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Wait until their handful of broken down refineries are bombed. And that will have to happen before the next legislative session. If I am right, there will be major finger pointing in Iran, and much will focus on the wealth that the Ayatollahs have confiscated from Iranians.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/29/2007 5:41 Comments || Top||

#5  But the Mighty Mad Mullas Magnificent Military Machine© will soon have nuclear powered cars, tanks, missles, and F-14 fighter jets.

Then those ingrates will see how smart I am.
Posted by: Mahmoud A. || 06/29/2007 6:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Not just that McZoid,
the Mullahs have been pouring money by the boat load into groups like Hezbollah, Hamas,(and about a hundred others) for years. And to what benefit of the Iranian people? They have it coming, soon I hope.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 06/29/2007 7:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Wait until their handful of broken down refineries are bombed.

Isn't it more likely that some critical parts would suddenly give way for no obvious reason... especially if said parts could be easily reached by a clever -- no, never mind, such things are unthinkable in The Land Allah So Clearly Favours.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/29/2007 8:12 Comments || Top||

#8  I for one welcome our Iranian Mullah Overlords. Those rioters just don't get it. I suggest all you R'burgers jump on the bandwagon.
Posted by: Captain Lewis || 06/29/2007 8:18 Comments || Top||

#9  I think that right about now the job openings for fuel truck drivers are increasing; next logical step after loss of the filling stations is to begin hijacking the trucks. due to dinnerjacket's blackout we won't probably know for awhile, but i expect the lorry drivers are getting nervous.
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 06/29/2007 15:24 Comments || Top||

#10  If it weren't for the specter of Iranian nuclear weapons, the whole spectacle of a country in possession of huge oil reserves going through gasoline rationing would be totally hilarious.

Once again, the Bush administration is missing the boat by not trumpeting how Iran has destroyed its economy through financing terrorism and pursuing nuclear arms. This is a glorious opportunity to highlight the fragility and incompetence of Islamic government along with the toll taken by Muslim backwardness.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 16:27 Comments || Top||

#11  Actually, the only people who need to know that is the Iranian populace. I've a feeling they're getting a clue.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/29/2007 21:29 Comments || Top||

#12  Actually, the only people who need to know that is the Iranian populace.

Aw, com'on, Pappy. The average American citizen hasn't a clue as to just how badly Islamic governments manage their cesspit economies. Do you really disagree that it would of use for America to broadcast how incompetent theocratic Islamic governments are at providing even the most basic levels of service to their people?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/29/2007 22:32 Comments || Top||


Good morning...
Man With Headache Finds Bullet in HeadGermany indicts Iraqi for online al Qaeda propagandaRP verifying whether top terror suspect escaped southern islandIran to launch 24-hour English-language satellite news channelDahlan: Iran, Qatar backed Hamas coupNo operation against them, Lal Masjid clerics toldHyundai workers join anti-U.S. protest
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#1  A brilliant political move!
Opps, sorry, wrong URL.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/29/2007 2:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Fred: Nice pic, but nothing to go ape over.
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/29/2007 4:12 Comments || Top||

#3  She looks like Christine Applegate in this pic.
Posted by: Captain Lewis || 06/29/2007 8:21 Comments || Top||

#4  #3 - not that there's anything wrong with that.
Posted by: Rambler || 06/29/2007 9:08 Comments || Top||

#5  They just don't make'em like that these days.
Posted by: Excalibur || 06/29/2007 9:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Much better than the Lindsay Lohan look on the front page of today's NY Post.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/29/2007 9:59 Comments || Top||

#7  heh, I'd pet her Monkey-->[in 1933].

/monkey sounds

Updated: 2:09 p.m. PT Aug 9, 2004
NEW YORK - Fay Wray, who won everlasting fame as the damsel held atop the Empire State Building by the giant ape in the 1933 film classic “King Kong,” has died, a close friend said Monday. She was 96.
Posted by: Pet Monkey || 06/29/2007 13:52 Comments || Top||

#8  Lies! All Lies! Wray Fray is even now preparing the feast of the Lucky Ape.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/29/2007 17:30 Comments || Top||



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Gloria
Fred
Besoeker
Glenmore
Frank G
3dc
Skidmark
Alaska Paul

Two weeks of WOT
Fri 2007-06-29
  Car bomb defused in central London
Thu 2007-06-28
  Brown replaces Blair
Wed 2007-06-27
  Lebanon arrests 40 Fatah al-Islam gunnies
Tue 2007-06-26
  Tony Blair to be confirmed as Middle East envoy
Mon 2007-06-25
  Boomer kills 6 UN soldiers in south Lebanon
Sun 2007-06-24
  Lal Masjid Students Free Chinese Women
Sat 2007-06-23
  Larijani admits Iran financing Hamas
Fri 2007-06-22
  Paks post reward for murdering Rushdie
Thu 2007-06-21
  Leb Army takes over Nahr al-Bared
Wed 2007-06-20
  Boom kills 78 in Baghdad
Tue 2007-06-19
  Pakistan: U.S. Missile Kills 32 Hard Boyz
Mon 2007-06-18
  Abbas' new PM outlaws Hamas
Sun 2007-06-17
  Looters raid Arafat's house, steal his Nobel Peace Prize
Sat 2007-06-16
  US launches new offensive around Baghdad
Fri 2007-06-15
  Abbas dissolves unity govt

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