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Car, petrol attack at Glasgow airport terminal
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Afghanistan
30 Afghan civilians said killed in clash
The enemy narrative is clear, the template is filled in the same way in story after story, event after event.

By NOOR KHAN, Associated Press Writer
Only Muslims now write for the AP?
KABUL, Afghanistan - U.S.-led airstrikes targeting Taliban militants who had attacked NATO forces slammed into civilian homes in southern Afghanistan, killing or wounding at least 30 people including women and children, a local official said Saturday.

Villagers reported casualty tolls close to 100, but government officials could not confirm that number.

The U.S. acknowledged some civilians were killed during the fighting in Helmand province's Gereshk district late Friday after fighters sought shelter in village homes, a familiar scenario in Afghanistan that has led to the deaths of hundreds of innocent bystanders this year.

The battle began when Taliban fighters tried to ambush a joint U.S.-Afghan military convoy late Friday before fleeing into the nearby village of Hyderabad for cover, said Mohammad Hussein, Helmand's provincial police chief.

Airstrikes targeted the militants in the village, said Dur Ali Shah, the mayor of Gereshk.

He said 30 to 35 people were killed or wounded but he could not provide an exact breakdown. Six houses were destroyed during the clash, Shah said.

"Right now, we do not know the number of Taliban casualties," Shah said.

The U.S.-led coalition said the airstrikes were in response to machine gun, mortar and rocker propelled grenade attacks on a joint Afghan-coalition patrol.

"It appears that ANA (Afghan National Army) and coalition forces fired at clearly identified firing positions," said Maj. Chris Belcher, a coalition spokesman. "Remains of some people who apparently were civilians were found among insurgent fighters who were killed in firing positions in a trench line."

Belchjer accused militants of hiding among civilians.

"We are deeply saddened by any loss of innocent lives," said Belcher.

Mohammad Khan, a resident of Hyderabad, said seven members of his family, including his brother and five of his brother's children, were killed by airstrikes.

"I brought three of my wounded relatives to Gereshk hospital for treatment," he said by phone.

The villagers on Saturday were burying a "lot of dead bodies," Khan said.

Civilians deaths caused by U.S. and NATO-led troops have infuriated Afghans and prompted President Hamid Karzai to publicly condemn the forces for carelessness and viewing Afghan lives as "cheap." He has urged restraint and better coordination of military operations with the government, while also blaming the Taliban for using civilians as human shields.

A United Nations tally shows that of 673 civilian deaths this year, 314 were caused by international or Afghan security forces, and 279 by insurgents. A similar Associated Press count, though lower, shows the same trend: 213 killed by the U.S. or NATO and 180 by the Taliban.

Overall, the AP counts more than 2,800 people killed this year. The tally, based on Western and Afghan official data, puts the violence far ahead of last year, when about 4,000 died.

In other violence:

• Five "innocent civilians" including women and children were killed and eight wounded by rocket attacks in Kunar province, said Gov. Shalezai Dedar. He did not say who was suspected in the attack.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 12:25 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  "Firing Positions" and "Trench Lines" are not built in 5 minutes. Makes you wonder about the "innocent" civilians doesn't it?
Posted by: Throger Thains8048 || 06/30/2007 13:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Hostages, possibly.
Posted by: Mitch H. || 06/30/2007 16:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Of course, given recent news, civilians might have been given a rifle and told to fire at NATO or the man next to you will slit your throat.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/30/2007 21:04 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm going to barrow a line from Ms Skolaut "It's a start".
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 22:06 Comments || Top||


Britain
Police: Glasgow Airport Attack Linked to Attempted London Bombings
Breaking -- no article yet
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 16:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [377 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  Yes, I can sense some kind of underlying pattern to these attacks, some common element... They all involved vehicles, that's it.
Posted by: Whinetch Mussolini7320 || 06/30/2007 17:08 Comments || Top||

#2  You could knock me over with a feather.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/30/2007 17:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Quick, someone call Larry Johnson to confirm this isn't terrorism.

Posted by: doc || 06/30/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Quick, someone call Larry Johnson to confirm this isn't terrorism.

Posted by: doc || 06/30/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||

#5  "Glasgow Airport Attack Linked to Attempted London Bombings"

Well, duh! Ya' think?

Nothing gets by these geniuses, does it?
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/30/2007 17:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Dare they now link all three attacks to Islamic terrorism? Oh, the suspense!
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 17:36 Comments || Top||

#7  doc - that is a disturbing link. Olberman should have stayed with sports where his wit and humor could do no damage 1and who the &uck is LJ? What a maroon. Do they need an attack to land on their head before they take it seriously?
Posted by: Unique Battle || 06/30/2007 18:39 Comments || Top||

#8  Anti-Catholic feelings, Gordon Riots etc.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 18:40 Comments || Top||

#9  Article up now. Final graf compares to that Algerian picked up at the Canadian border in 1999 who intended to blow up Los Angeles airport. In their report FoxNews compared this attack to the Egyptian who tried to shoot up the El Al check in counter, and was killed by armed Israeli staff. At the time it was claimed he was insane. Now Fox at least is all but saying jihadi.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 20:50 Comments || Top||

#10  Here you are
Blazing jeep rams into Glasgow Airport

Now, what bothers me is the following.
What are the chances of 3 consecutive attacks all being duds?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 20:57 Comments || Top||

#11  Ya'know, if muzzies continue as they are doing, they may finally get that backlash, so far mythical, they invoke at every opportunity.

As you say, TW, people are starting to see a pattern that they were unwilling to acknowledge before.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 20:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Gr0mgoru, pretty good chances. But that does not mean there aren't more coming and that they would be duds too.

What I see is probing of defences (using more stupid expendable jihadi rookies) as well as possible smokescreens. The D date is 7/7/07.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 21:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Gr0mgoru, pretty good chances. But that does not mean there aren't more coming and that they would be duds too.

Quoth Old Bill, "Therein lies the rub." Don't expect your foe to make a bad move.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 21:14 Comments || Top||

#14  2x4, Zen, still doesn't jib. In particular, coupled with the use of the expensive cars.

p.s. Zen, 7/7/7 is just a week away. The Brits will remain alert for a week.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 21:55 Comments || Top||

#15  It makes sense to me. In a materialistic society, people would be less likely to look crossways at a Muslim if he's in a nice car.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 22:00 Comments || Top||

#16  Yep. "One of us" rather than the frothing punks in Paki slums
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 22:10 Comments || Top||

#17  The Brits will remain alert for a week.

Let's all hope so.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:17 Comments || Top||

#18  Indeed. Let's hope so.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:19 Comments || Top||

#19  "2x4, Zen, still doesn't jib. In particular, coupled with the use of the expensive cars."
"It makes sense to me. In a materialistic society, people would be less likely to look crossways at a Muslim if he's in a nice car. "

Haven't heard yet if the cars belong to the terrs or are stolen. Seems to me stolen would work nicely, as long as the time between boosting and blasting wasn't too great, given Britian's ring of steel camera set up


Posted by: USN, ret. || 06/30/2007 22:29 Comments || Top||

#20  Not if they're likining this to "the Troubles."

We all should be so lucky.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 22:33 Comments || Top||

#21  I thought I had read somewhere that the first car found was stolen.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 22:36 Comments || Top||

#22  Ah, yes, while Rome burns, ignorance is bliss...

London Mayor Defends Islamists
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 22:38 Comments || Top||

#23  In a materialistic society, people would be less likely to look crossways at a Muslim

Forgive me, Mike N., but perhaps this needs to change.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:39 Comments || Top||

#24  Oh well, the link doesn't work so here is the reassuring message by London's Mayor after the bombing by Muslims...

"In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio.

You know your town is in trouble when your mayor is more than in just a little bit of denial. Better get that scotch and gin flowing mayor, it's going to be a long week I bet for you, an official Islamic apologist.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 22:44 Comments || Top||

#25  What are the chances of 3 consecutive attacks all being duds?

Possible. There is a chance that the masterminds have been killed off or rendered useless, and we're seeing the second string.

Also possible these are just feints. Enough of them and response-teams get tired and confused. That's already happened.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 22:48 Comments || Top||

#26  It is also possible that many of the smart jihadis are now dead.
Posted by: Super Hose || 06/30/2007 22:52 Comments || Top||

#27  Also possible these are just feints. Enough of them and response-teams get tired and confused.

Too right, Pappy. Thimk: Flying Imams.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:55 Comments || Top||

#28  Thank God! "Red" Ken has assured me that my suspicion of Muslims is completely unfounded.

Whatta moron. Its the fact that the people of London keep voting for this moonbat that prevents me from feeling good about Englands chances of survival.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 22:56 Comments || Top||

#29  US Knew of today's Glascow attack, two weeks ago.

A US official told ABCNews.com that the intelligence reports led to the assignment of Federal Air Marshals to flights into and out of both Glasgow and Prague.

Air marshals had been added to flights into and out of Germany late last month, based on similar warnings.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 23:14 Comments || Top||

#30  Helmuth, US anticipated the attacks and warned about them. No need to give it a conspiracy theory flavor.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 23:18 Comments || Top||

#31  twobyfour

I don't do conspiracy theories. This explains why they bad guys couldn't get in the front door of the place. This also could explain why all the bombings are fizzling out. The bad guys are heavily infiltrated. Expect large arrests of the bad guys now about to be pointed out by the infiltrators.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 23:23 Comments || Top||

#32  people of London keep voting for this moonbat

London's population is 31% foreign born and 38% of all the UK muslims (600,000) live there.
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2007 23:24 Comments || Top||

#33  Stumble and fall.
Posted by: newc || 06/30/2007 23:35 Comments || Top||


Details of the attack on Glasgow airport terminal
A car on fire has been driven at the main terminal building at Glasgow Airport. Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath. They have also described seeing two Asian men, one of whom was on fire, who had been in the car.

Strathclyde Police said two people had been arrested and detained in connection with the incident. The airport has been evacuated and all flights suspended following the incident at 1515 BST.

A Whitehall spokesman said the incident was not being treated as a national security threat however the prime minister is being kept informed of developments and is expected to chair a meeting of COBRA - the emergency committee later. First Minister Alex Salmond has activated emergency procedures.

One eyewitness at Glasgow Airport said: "I heard the sound of a car's wheels spinning and smoke coming out. I saw a Jeep Cherokee apparently as if it was trying to get right through the doors into the terminal building. There were flames coming out from underneath then some men appeared from in amongst the flames.

"The police ran over and the people started fighting with the police. I then heard what sounded like an explosion."

Eye-witness Richard Gray told BBC News 24: "A green Jeep was in the middle of the doorway burning. There was an Asian guy who was pulled out of the car by two police officers, who he was trying to fight off. They've got him on the ground. The car didn't actually explode. There were a few pops and bangs which presumably was the petrol."

Stephen Clarkson said he saw people running towards him and "panicking" then noticed a crashed Cherokee jeep. He said he helped police restrain one of the men. "It was lucky that I was there," he said. "I managed to knock the man to the ground with my forearm and the police got on top of him and restrained him and put handcuffs on him."
Good job, old chap. Mind that the bobbies don't arrest you for assault.
Thomas Conroy, a maintenance worker at the airport believes the men deliberately tried to set the car on fire.

It looked like they had molotov cocktails with them. They sort of burst them round about the flames to make sure the car would go up big style. Within minutes it was up and the terminal caught as well
"It looked like they had molotov cocktails with them," he said. "They sort of burst them round about the flames to make sure the car would go up big style. Within minutes it was up and the terminal caught as well."

Dr Rak Nandwani was at the airport building to pick up relatives when he saw a plume of black smoke. He said: "The whole place has come to a standstill, the terminal building has been evacuated. I have spoken to my relatives and they have been moved to outside the building. They were told they could not pick their baggage up from the baggage collection area.

"There must be about 50 police cars at the airport. Me and my son, along with everyone else, have been moved to the car rental area."

Taxi driver Ian Crosby said: "This was no accident. This was a deliberate attack on Glasgow Airport."

Mr Crosby, who said he served in Northern Ireland, told how he shepherded people away from the scene in case of a secondary explosion or a nail-bomb.
The reaction of members of the public was not to help the men in the car, but to restrain them, he told the BBC. Mr Crosby, who said he served in Northern Ireland, told how he shepherded people away from the scene in case of a secondary explosion or a nail-bomb.

Two men, one of whom was reported to be badly burned, were seen being led away in handcuffs. Michael McRanor from Glasgow, photographed the arrest of one of the men.

A number of people are stuck on aeroplanes and on the airport strip while others have been told they might not be able to leave the airport complex until at least 2100 BST. Edinburgh Airport has been closed to vehicles which are being turned away on approach however, flights are operating as normal.
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 13:45 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [882 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  Let him burn.
Posted by: Excalibur || 06/30/2007 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  This goes to show that today's enemy is not one with mighty armies, navies and air forces "over there" that can be seen and destroyed. It is the person next door whose thinking dictates they take a vehicle in the parking lot, fill it with explosives, and drive it to the corner market to kill as many non-military as possible. A thinking process shared by others via a dark and violent theology.

Via Islam, evil has cunningly made it past the military machine designed to protect the community, and destroys the most innocent of that community.

The solution is to ban that theology, and to remove those out of that community that follow Islam. The West in the past has never had a large presence of Islam in its communities, due to the memories of the invasions by Muslims during the middle ages. And now that it has creeped back in, it has resumed its war.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 14:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Helmuth speaks for me, and very eloquently.
Posted by: Chusoling 1715 || 06/30/2007 14:54 Comments || Top||

#4  man, those Scientologists are sure getting aroused, aren't they?
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 15:34 Comments || Top||

#5  UPDATE at 6/30/07 11:28:27 am:

Unconfirmed: the hospital was evacuated because the burned suspect was found to be wearing some kind of vest ... reports that the vest was blown up in a controlled explosion...

UPDATE at 6/30/07 11:36:42 am:

Sky News has reported that schools just got out yesterday, and many children were at the Glasgow Airport with their families...

UPDATE at 6/30/07 12:17:45 pm:

Britain has now raised its security level to “Critical” — indicating that terrorist attacks are “imminent.”
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 15:41 Comments || Top||

#6  The solution is to ban that theology, and to remove those out of that community that follow Islam. The West in the past has never had a large presence of Islam in its communities, due to the memories of the invasions by Muslims during the middle ages. And now that it has creeped back in, it has resumed its war.

Word, HSfC.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 15:42 Comments || Top||

#7  The reaction of members of the public was not to help the men in the car, but to restrain them, he told the BBC.

That to me is the key bit. Terrorism only works when those it's aimed at are frightened into submission. When those it's aimed at fight back -- *and* they are in the majority -- the terrorists are well and truly screwed.

It's almost enough to make one sorry for the vicious idiots.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 15:42 Comments || Top||

#8  Sky News has reported that schools just got out yesterday, and many children were at the Glasgow Airport with their families...

So, the boomer was there to get the kiddies. Oh, Brave Lions of Islam™.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 15:45 Comments || Top||

#9  "almost enough to make one sorry for the vicious idiots."

My mother spent a month in a burn ward some years back - and even that knowledge doesn't make me have sympathy for these guys. Make sure they can't do any more harm and then let them burn. Add more fuel if necessary.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 15:47 Comments || Top||

#10  O'Hare and Midway's terminals are a bitch to drop off and pick up at, but trying to time an explosion, get thru all those cars during peak times to get into the building I hope would be extremely difficult.

Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 15:48 Comments || Top||

#11  Zenster

After posting my comment at #2, I scrolled down and saw a similar posting and then read your comments there being similar to mine.

Europe and many in society have been striving for multi-culturalism. The American society has been striving for liberty and freedom. Islam is a force that is not only opposed to multi-culturalism and liberty, it is a theology the demands it's followers fight stringently, to the death even, against multi-culturalism, or anything not Islamic.

"It hath not been granted unto any prophet that he should possess captives; until he hath made a great slaughter of the infidels in the earth.
Make war on unbelievers until Allah’s religion reigns supreme."
[selections from the Koran].


Until the West has the courage to see the truth about Mohammed and his 6th century religion that is mushrooming within our midst, many in the West will continue to try vainly to cohabit with Islam until we either submit or remove this defective theology from our communities.
Posted by: Helmuth, Speaking for Chusoling1715 || 06/30/2007 16:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Seems that it is all fizzles, attributable to the general level of stupidity (fairly high) of the average jihadi.

But I have a feeling this is just a first vawe designed to distract and misdirect attention. Hope I am wrong.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 16:24 Comments || Top||

#13  #11: Zenster

After posting my comment at #2, I scrolled down and saw a similar posting and then read your comments there being similar to mine.

Europe and many in society have been striving for multi-culturalism. The American society has been striving for liberty and freedom. Islam is a force that is not only opposed to multi-culturalism and liberty, it is a theology the demands it's followers fight stringently, to the death even, against multi-culturalism, or anything not Islamic.

"It hath not been granted unto any prophet that he should possess captives; until he hath made a great slaughter of the infidels in the earth.
Make war on unbelievers until Allah’s religion reigns supreme."
[selections from the Koran].

Until the West has the courage to see the truth about Mohammed and his 6th century religion that is mushrooming within our midst, many in the West will continue to try vainly to cohabit with Islam until we either submit or remove this defective theology from our communities.


Good to see we are of one mind.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 16:24 Comments || Top||

#14  Until the West has the courage to see the truth about Mohammed and his 6th century religion that is mushrooming within our midst, many in the West will continue to try vainly to cohabit with Islam until we either submit or remove this defective theology from our communities.

Agreed. So far, mass deportations or internment looks like the only alternatives. This is really sucky but Islam provides no other options for dealing with it, save flat-out annihilation.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 17:41 Comments || Top||

#15  Ironic, no? that burnt human flesh smells like burnt pig.

Glenmore - I hope your mother is doing well.
Posted by: GORT || 06/30/2007 17:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Unfortunately, last week President Bush re-stated his administration's orientation to Muslims: noble partners in the GWOT, and enemies against the nominal handful of extremists.

Bin Laden t-shirts and memorabilia are sold all over the Muslim world. And photos of murderous jihadis are posted over the walls of Palestinian and Iraqi homes. What is the problem with understanding that most Muslims are supportive of terrorism? Even where they publically oppose it in states where they have immigrated, it is plain and obvious that they are using strategic deceit (al-taqiyah). Muslim terror cannot be solved by local policing or subsidized pseudo-integration of the enemy into western societies, as their relatives actively work for ethnic cleansing in their homelands. If 1 in 6 UK Muslims supports acts like the 7-7 terror, it stands to reason that the same or larger numbers support it elsewhere in the Free World. Why the hell doesn't this sink in?
Posted by: Phuling Peacock4866 || 06/30/2007 18:22 Comments || Top||

#17  Your persistence is admirable, Zenster.
Posted by: 8872 || 06/30/2007 18:23 Comments || Top||

#18  If 1 in 6 UK Muslims supports acts like the 7-7 terror

Actually it's 1 in 4 and that's against the very population who welcomed them, pay them a nice living for doing nothing, and protect them from a very deserved backlash. And yes, the number who support terrorism against the Rest of the West is even higher.
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2007 18:39 Comments || Top||

#19  Wrap 'em in a PigSkin MOAB and drop them over Mekka from an Ohio Class aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 18:44 Comments || Top||

#20  Comments from Hot Air:

These were only poor illegal aliens doing jobs that Americans are “unwilling to do.” When they recover from their injuries Bush can invite then here and give them amnesty. If anyone complains about this. Howdy Doody in South Carolina can call them “racists.”


What do you call a jihadist who pours gas on himself and then lights himself on fire?

Shish Kaboob.


What did the 72 Virgins say when the the Glasgow airport Jihadist got Heaven?

answer:”Your Hot!”

I wonder if they bought enough carbon offsets to cover this one.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 18:48 Comments || Top||

#21  ouch! "carbon offsets" invoked - heh....nicely done A2u!
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 19:06 Comments || Top||

#22  I can't take credit for that, that's all from Hot Air posters.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 19:11 Comments || Top||

#23  GORT#15,
Thanks for the thought; it was 30 years ago and while the scars would keep her from winning the bathing suit competition in a beauty pageant, they didn't stop her from anything else.

No opiates for the burning jihadi!
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 20:21 Comments || Top||

#24  Good post, Phuling Peacock4866. It is this sort of crapulence that has permanently shifted me away from supporting "moderate" Muslims over to banning Islam as a prelude to mass deportations. If you want a gauge of just how bad it's gotten, Islamic terrorist attacks are slowly eroding my adamant opposition to first use of nuclear weapons. On our current path we are guarranteed to experience an atrocity far worse than 9-11. That is simply not acceptable and if first use of nuclear weapons is the only way of thwarting that, then I am forced to reconsider my position. So far, this does not seem to be the case but each day's delay in dealing Islam a crippling blow brings us closer to something so undesirable as first use.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 20:36 Comments || Top||

#25  Brilliant post, 4866, we're agreed then. Let's fucking nuke 'em.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:43 Comments || Top||

#26  One thing I've noticed with interest recently is that a number of Muslims, current and former, have started speaking out publicly against the murderous acts and anti-human beliefs of the so-called radicals. It seems to be at the beginning of an acceleration curve, but if it really does continue to grow, things will certainly grow interesting. Much like dilemma Al Qaeda in Iraq now finds itself in, when the Sunni Triangle they'd been swimming so freely through is now working hard to drown them. (Overextended metaphors are so much fun!)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 20:43 Comments || Top||

#27  SHARK WEEK!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:44 Comments || Top||

#28  It seems to be at the beginning of an acceleration curve

Personally, I hope like Hell that you're right, tw. The "J Curve" on this is so steep that there's little time left for anything but the most hurried rush to snuff jihadis on a continuous basis. Let's all hope this happens damn soon. Time ain't just a'wasting, it's in such short supply that the whole MME (Muslim Middle East) is going to run out of air in another few years.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 21:27 Comments || Top||

#29  Der Tag ist herein! That don't mean we want to kill the Jooooooooooooooooooosss of course, but we like to have that option.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:30 Comments || Top||

#30  SHARK WEEK!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:32 Comments || Top||

#31  THE SHARK HAS BEEN JUMPED Repeatedly



/oh has he ever.
Posted by: RD || 06/30/2007 22:58 Comments || Top||

#32  Yeah, my ear's so fulla piss I could swear it's raining.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 23:05 Comments || Top||


Burning car crashes into Glasgow airport terminal - 3 arrested
A blazing car crashed into the terminal building at Glasgow Airport in Scotland on Saturday, police said. The incident came just a day after police foiled car bomb attacks in London.

"The police have been called at about 3:15 (pm) (1415 GMT) at Glasgow Airport. A car had crashed inside the terminal. It was on fire," a police spokeswoman told AFP.

She added that she did not know if it was a terrorist attack or if there were any victims.
We'll add info here as it is known


From Sky News:

Three people have been arrested after a jeep was driven into the terminal building at Glasgow airport and caught fire, police have confirmed.
Witnesses reported hearing a series of loud "bangs" and saw at least two men - one of whom was on fire - emerge from the vehicle.

There are reports of several injuries.

The Cherokee 4x4 smashed into a glass door at Terminal One of the airport, the busiest in Scotland, which has now been closed.

Witnesses said some of the hundreds of people in the area removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire.

But there are reports the men were trying to fling petrol onto the flames.

Scott Gleeson said he saw the jeep speed up and swerve towards the terminal at an angle to hit the door. "They were obviously trying to get through to cause as much damage as possible," he said.

Police say it is too early to say whether the incident - which comes after failed car bomb attacks in London - was related to terrorism.

Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened.

He said: "There was an Asian male. He was lying on the floor and he was on fire, the Jeep was on fire as well.

There was chaos at the scene.

"The fellow got up and started fighting with police. I managed to knock the Asian fellow to the ground and four police officers got on top of him." He added: "His whole body was on fire. He was quite a big fellow and was disorientated otherwise I wouldn't have been able to knock him down."

James Edgar told Sky News: "People were running past like they has missed their flight. They told us all to get out of the airport.

"Everyone was in a panic and police and security were scuffling with an Asian gentleman."

He added: "There was a lot of anger - if the crowds had got hold of this gentleman it would have been the end of him."
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 11:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [462 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  "There was a lot of anger - if the crowds had got hold of this gentleman terr perp it would have been the end of him."

Fix'd.

I see in my crystal ball that crowds will be more successful in the future as no one else will seem to do the necessary and it will start to be the end of them.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 12:25 Comments || Top||

#2  An asian gentleman. Good grief...
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger || 06/30/2007 12:26 Comments || Top||

#3  its about time the muslim community come out against this otherwise i see the muslims being targeted especially in glasgow where they take no shit from outsiders!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 06/30/2007 12:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Eyewitness on Sky TV: Car was full of gas cans. Driver and passenger were throwing gasoline all around the scen [sic] after they crashed the SUV into the terminal door. After ramming an airport gate, the guy charged the terminal with flames beginning to burst from the vehicle, angling it in order to best ram through the glass terminal door and kill passengers inside. One man from the vehicle burst into flames. Amidst the fire and chaos, the terrorists were wrestled to the ground by taxi drivers and passengers.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 12:29 Comments || Top||

#5  Japs!
They're crazy, all of 'em!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 12:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Hard to believe we now have 3 almost identical VBIEDs in two separate regions of UK that fizzled. IIRC, the copycat attacks after July 7 in London also fizzled. Looks like a lot of amatuerish type activitiy - not AQ trained and graduated or even Iraqi experience. Wonder where this is going. UK is lucky these guys were so incompetent. You could wonder if it was planned this way to really have people let their guard down thinking these guys are a bunch of Monty Python productions.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/30/2007 12:38 Comments || Top||

#7  jack

most of these guys spend their lives living in their bedrooms dreaming of being a jihadi.they get their knowledge from the internet.

if only they could have a beer have sex there wouldnt be so much pent up anger
esentment!!!!
Posted by: Paul || 06/30/2007 12:43 Comments || Top||

#8  In the sense of trying to kill people, it was a fizzle. But they did manage to set the terminal on fire. From the video its clear that the car was full of gasoline. I'm not a firefighter, but I was wondering why they didn't hook on a grapple and drag it away from the building, which kept getting reignited by the flames.
Posted by: PBMcL || 06/30/2007 12:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Just another in a series of totally unrelated incidents. Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: The Left || 06/30/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#10  Asian, you say? Tatsuru, Daichi and Akira?
Posted by: Whinetch Mussolini7320 || 06/30/2007 13:07 Comments || Top||

#11  Witnesses said some of the hundreds of people in the area removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire. Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened.

Not bad for a bunch of passive EUnuchs/Eurabians/...
Posted by: 8872 || 06/30/2007 13:24 Comments || Top||

#12  It's just Muslims practicing their religion. Nothing more to say about it.
Posted by: jpal || 06/30/2007 13:25 Comments || Top||

#13  Jihadis certainly have the requisite will. If they become actually, you know, competent there will be hell to pay. Of course, jihad and competency rarely intersect without years of planning.

Methinks the EUnichs are re-pondering their multiculti, uberliberal ethos and might soon conclude these clods actually mean what they say and can NOT be bought off. It is submit or fight.
Posted by: Brett || 06/30/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#14  Blazing Muslimes Attack Main Terminal Building at Glasgow Airport

/better headline
Posted by: RD || 06/30/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||

#15  Hat tip to the bystander that forearmed one of the attackers.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 13:48 Comments || Top||

#16  Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened.

Don't piss off a Scotsman on holiday. This wanna-be terrorist is lucky the policmen got to him quick. Otherwise the "holidymaker" would have probably finished the job.
Posted by: Intrinsicpilot || 06/30/2007 13:50 Comments || Top||

#17  more details here
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 13:51 Comments || Top||

#18  Witnesses said some of the hundreds of people in the area removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire.

. . .

Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened.


Another successful engagement for the 93rd Volunteer Infantry.
Posted by: Mike || 06/30/2007 14:02 Comments || Top||

#19  Brett, methinks reevaluation goes on at the personal level, ya'know, like individual blokes and blokesses. The gummints and offishuls still need to get off the multiculti kool-aid and catch up.
Posted by: twobyfour || 06/30/2007 14:12 Comments || Top||

#20  Wonder where this is going.

It's going to be one endless string of terrorist attacks. Some successful, others less so, but they will not stop until Muslims are removed from Western society. It should be clear by now that Islam has zero intention of policing itself. Reform is likewise out of the question. Muslims have in no way demonstrated a willingness to begin cleaning out the jihadists from their midst. So, where does that leave us?

Recongregate this world's Muslim population back in their countries of origin. Citizens can have the choice of internment or return to their ancestral lands. Contain the entire MME (Muslim Middle East) and kill anyone trying to exit it. Bomb out the occasional nuclear weapons startup and keep a tight lid on the whole mess.

Either that or be prepared to spend TRILLIONS of dollars on futile police efforts like Iraq and the security needed to combat domestic terrorism in the West. Even all that money will not prevent some truly horrific terrorist atrocities. So long as there are Muslims among us, the attacks will continue, guaranteed. Islam must be banned in all Western countries. As a singular violation of human rights, Shari'a law in any form must be prohibited as well. Declare all Muslims persona non grata and remove them from our societies.

The only other alternatives are far more violent.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 14:13 Comments || Top||

#21  whats that, the F4 macro?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 14:17 Comments || Top||

#22  Just heard the best line of the day from Fox reporter Toby ???, quoting one of the witnesses who had heard a policeman say, "Let the expletive burn."
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 14:26 Comments || Top||

#23  No, Frank, it's a human being who is totally fed up with Islam's violence and predations upon the West. Maybe you aren't there yet. Possibly it will take some sort of Muslim atrocity in your own neighborhood before you change your mind. I've lost all hope that Islam will behave itself. We are going to have to do some serious rethinking about the value of having Muslims in Western society. Their belief structures are wholly incompatible with the constitutional freedoms we enjoy and cherish.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 14:27 Comments || Top||

#24  we heard you the first 4,597 times you said that
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 14:30 Comments || Top||

#25  Funny how you never post a similar reply when other people here script the exact same sort of sentiments, Frank. Just with me. Such selectivity speaks volumes about you. It's hard to recall you ever posting with your own strategies or ideas on how to solve this problem. Neither do you manage to recognize how my own position has undergone a steady evolution thanks to the vital information here at Rantburg. Feel free to take it to email instead of here.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 14:38 Comments || Top||

#26  Just heard the best line of the day from Fox reporter Toby ???, quoting one of the witnesses who had heard a policeman say, "Let the expletive burn."

As long as he didn't imply a connection between the terms "Muslim" and "terrorist" his job should be safe.
Posted by: Whinetch Mussolini7320 || 06/30/2007 14:48 Comments || Top||

#27  Zen, Frank, take my advice and have a drink before you say something like I did yesterday.

Just don't sit at the same booth.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 15:14 Comments || Top||

#28  ...and on Sky News the witnesses are stating the 'gentlemen' were yelling 'allan ackbar' or something like that, as they fought the police.
Must be a soccer chant...?
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger || 06/30/2007 15:22 Comments || Top||

#29  Unlike the two car bombs which had to have been planned far in advance, judging from its amateurishness this could have been an act of Sudden Jihad Syndrome.

Perhaps the knighting of Salman Rushdie triggered homicidal impulses in members of the Religion of the Perpetually Aggrieved. Or it could have been the foul weather - just about anything sets off these ticking timebombs of flesh.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/30/2007 15:30 Comments || Top||

#30  Of course it's SJS. But the suddenness is at the front end of deciding to do so, not at the back end of execution. There were gas tanks (presumably propane) in the vehicle as well as gasoline already aflame plus the molotov cocktails. The idiots intended the explosion to wipe out the entire terminal, but it fizzled. Just as the bomb vest idea fizzled at the hospital... and most of the other attempts have fizzled thus far.

No virgins, no dramatic explosion, and lots of very painful burns likely not being treated gently in hospital. As Brett commented about the non-intersection of jihadism and competence... Clearly Allah is showing whose side he's really on.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 15:52 Comments || Top||

#31  "Asian gentlemen"?

Clearly Brit slang for Cambodians, of the Methodist faith....

Posted by: John Frum || 06/30/2007 15:53 Comments || Top||

#32  Wonder why they went for an out of the way airport like Glasgow instead of one of the London airports. Could it be a welcome bombing for Gordo's friends and relatives?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/30/2007 16:01 Comments || Top||

#33  I imagine that's where the bombers lived, Nimble Spemble.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 16:24 Comments || Top||

#34  Funny how you never post a similar reply when other people here script the exact same sort of sentiments, Frank. Just with me. Such selectivity speaks volumes about you. It's hard to recall you ever posting with your own strategies or ideas on how to solve this problem. Neither do you manage to recognize how my own position has undergone a steady evolution thanks to the vital information here at Rantburg. Feel free to take it to email instead of here.

Chief, it't time to relax and feel the warm glow. You've threatened us with recipe S-pam, time to sit quietly and enjoy the moon.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 16:29 Comments || Top||

#35  Car-B-Q students from France with Pak passports?
Posted by: Phinater Thraviger || 06/30/2007 16:31 Comments || Top||

#36  And no, to the first question in your mind, not near as many as you think. Older und wiser is come to mind.

Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 16:32 Comments || Top||

#37  It's not Sudden Jihad Syndrome. It takes time and planning to scout targets, steal cars, make circuit boards for cell phone detonators, make explosive initiators, etc. This was planned well before Rushdie's knighthood and there are many more just like these in the UK when 25% of muslims think terrorism is justified and 30% want to turn the UK into a fundamentalist Islamic state where sharia rules. That's ALL UK muslims, much higher for the Paki invaders.
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2007 18:31 Comments || Top||

#38  I criticize others, especially the "dip em in pig blood and bury em in a pig carcass" rants - you are more prolific and unnecessarily wordy with the same message. I heard you the first time. My strategy? I think Islamic terror needs to be smacked harshly and fully agree with the Jack Bauer methodology. I don't agree with "kill em all", although I acknowledge a lot of people will be unnecessarily killed in any strategy because the bad guys are so well infiltrated. Go ahead, flame me, but I have dwelt on you lately because I think you're smarter and a better person than the stuff you've been macro'ing in, and upon self-reflection, perhaps you might see things differently. Others, I don't have any hopes of that. Take that for what it's worth - 2 cents. I also know that "my strategy" and a couple bucks will get me a cup of coffee and not a lot else.
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 19:02 Comments || Top||

#39  Bomb 'em with pig blood! Droped from an M-1 Aircraft carrier! Wraped in a MOAB sealed in an enigma.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:08 Comments || Top||

#40  Frank G you left out the bold.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:25 Comments || Top||

#41  Just heard the best line of the day from Fox reporter Toby ???, quoting one of the witnesses who had heard a policeman say, "Let the expletive burn."

As long as he didn't imply a connection between the terms "Muslim" and "terrorist" his job should be safe.


Interestingly, about half an hour ago on FoxNews I heard their pet military authority, retired Lt.Gen, ret'd (Air Force) or something like that, say out loud that the War on Terror is not against Al Qaeda but against radical Islam (!!!) and the car bombers are not Al Qaeda but another group. The only thing he didn't mention was Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 20:31 Comments || Top||

#42  "I think you're smarter and a better person than the stuff you've been macro'ing in"

It took years, Frank, but at last we disagree.
Posted by: Darrell || 06/30/2007 21:02 Comments || Top||

#43  Frank G you left out the bold.

He's not obliged to, Ship. I do it as a matter of courtesy so that others can more easily detect when they have been addressed personally. YMMV.

I criticize others, especially the "dip em in pig blood and bury em in a pig carcass" rants

I could not agree with you more and have railed against the same crapulence myself.

- you are more prolific and unnecessarily wordy with the same message.

That's your opinion, others seem to appreciate what I write and say so quite often. Skipping ahead, I'll say this: Your criticism is sufficiently honorable whereby I'll look into toning it down a bit. I have no desire to harp upon shit over and over again. As a patriotic American, I am deeply concerned when so few people seem to comprehend the level of threat we face.

I heard you the first time. My strategy? I think Islamic terror needs to be smacked harshly and fully agree with the Jack Bauer methodology.

Please elaborate. I haven't watched television in almost six years. I know he's a character in "24" but am unfamiliar with his methods. Is he a part of the hunter—killer teams we both support?

I don't agree with "kill em all"

Neither do I, no matter how many times you make such unbased accusations against me.

although I acknowledge a lot of people will be unnecessarily killed in any strategy because the bad guys are so well infiltrated.

I don't just acknowledge such a thing, I predict it which—evidently—wads up panties left and right.

Go ahead, flame me

Nope, ain't gonna. Believe it or not, I admire you too much for that sort of crapulence. Your sense of humor is par excellent. While you may aspire to be "tu3031's snark", you're already there and just don't know it.

but I have dwelt on you lately because I think you're smarter and a better person than the stuff you've been macro'ing in

It ain't macro'ed, Frank. Those are my honest feelings. Shared too often, perhaps, but what I truly feel. Rest assured I do appreciate your estimation of my abilities.

and upon self-reflection, perhaps you might see things differently.

I'd dearly love to except that the constant onslaught of Islamic crapulence has pushed me over the edge of any further tolerance for their bloodlust.

Others, I don't have any hopes of that. Take that for what it's worth - 2 cents.

No, it's worth more than that. You are willing to give a damn care and have taken the time to respond personally. I'll not diminish that by glossing over your worthwhile comments.

I also know that "my strategy" and a couple bucks will get me a cup of coffee and not a lot else.

I think you're wrong. You obviously have some brains. All of us need to be using them 24/7 to consider and reconsider the options available until some sort of useful strategy emerges. It's what I'm trying to do, albeit probably too hard, but I'd hate to think that I didn't give this vital issue my worst best.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 21:06 Comments || Top||

#44  Like I said, same shit, different date, highlights moved.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:16 Comments || Top||

#45  3rd party, appeal to something, crapulence. You've already done this Zen. Hell you done this 300 times. Take a break, get rested for the elections. We need a superior troll. If you start spamming with recipes I'm gone.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:19 Comments || Top||

#46  Hell, PD had you nailed the first week, you're a name dropper and an ass kisser.

FOAD
HAND
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:28 Comments || Top||

#47  No I take back 45, I'll hound his snifflig ass to ground before I leave, and don't give a damn about your cookware.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:38 Comments || Top||

#48  If you start spamming with recipes I'm gone.

Only because you squall reiterate about the recipe submissions, Ship. The Rantburg Ramadan recipes were submitted with moderator approval. Go ahead and wet yer panties about it all you want. Enough of this crapulence shit. Feel free to take it to email.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 21:42 Comments || Top||

#49  I have friends in damn high places, I call upon General Lucky, commander of far flung brigades to help me smite this tick on the butt on RantBurg!



And hey Lucky!
Ima can go about 25 klicks now, no problem. Teh portrait of Eddie Mercx is hanging in a spot of honor. We got a self-lover named Zenster now, smart fella, cant shut the hell up tho.

Let's get ready for the Prologue Man!

Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:49 Comments || Top||

#50  Feel free to take it to email.

LOL! A firstie for you?
You'll always be the weird little kid with uranium cookery.

Not too damn good with funny either. Still, I'd ban you for sheer damn waste of bandwidth, but I expect you pay your way.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:54 Comments || Top||

#51  Ship, bring me back the head of Eddie Merkx. I need something to drink beer out of.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 21:55 Comments || Top||

#52  Uranium Cookery??? LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 21:57 Comments || Top||

#53  The .com scared the shit out of you didn't it? LOL! what a twisted little piece of shit. Figured out what side of the country you're on yet? Hell sink trap me. I know troll.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:58 Comments || Top||

#54  Hush Mike, Eddie Merkx, is gawd. I want to be the cannibal.

Meanwhile we got a persistent damn troll....
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:00 Comments || Top||

#55  Dang Frank yes,
to the idiots honor he made a dang houmors post about uranium cookware...


Too late thoo... No quarter.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:04 Comments || Top||

#56  He's still the runny nosed kid with the uranium cookware at the back of the bus with the bottle flies.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:07 Comments || Top||

#57  Ship, I'm killing everybody, but if Merkx are gawdlike to ya, I'll grant him a deity exemption.

Ima still need me a BeerSkull though. Perhaps that German guy. Uhlrich?
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 22:08 Comments || Top||

#58  Z, Ima think maybe you drop by the OC and make apolgys all around. Save us all bandwidth, we can make Mary! Er... Merry!

Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:09 Comments || Top||

#59  I always like Jan Ulrich, hell, to be honest with ya, I kinda look like an elderly Ulrich... HA!, I have my inner Jan, I will be run over you, yes, these are my thighs, I am making the pumping yes! The jan is ready!

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Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:14 Comments || Top||

#60  Shipman's in superior form as of late.
Posted by: 8872 || 06/30/2007 22:21 Comments || Top||

#61  Z, Ima think maybe you drop by the OC and make apolgys all around.

Shuckey darn, Ship. I'd love to do exactly that but I'm still deaf from everyone—including you—pissing in my ear and telling me that it's raining. If it weren't for Fred's and Badanov's kindness, I don't know what I'd do.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:51 Comments || Top||

#62  That's your opinion, others seem to appreciate what I write and say so quite often.

People also cheer a guy lifting cinder blocks via hooks though his nipples as well...
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 23:00 Comments || Top||

#63  Thank goodness I have such a dim opinion of people who pierce their nipples. Need proof?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 23:06 Comments || Top||


Nightclub bomb alert issued two weeks
Nightclubs across Britain were warned they could be terrorist targets just days before yesterday’s attempted double car-bomb attack in London, The Times has learnt.

The drama came as it emerged that a 53-page document alerting businesses to the threat posed by VBIEDs had been issued to police two weeks ago.
The drama came as it emerged that a 53-page document alerting businesses to the threat posed by VBIEDs — vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices — had been issued to police two weeks ago. It had been passed on to the Tiger Tiger club only a few days before yesterday’s events.

The incident also appeared to be foreshadowed by a posting on an internet forum used by terrorists, saying: “Today I say: Rejoice, by Allah. London will be bombed.”

Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, gave warning recently that car and lorry bombs were “the greatest danger” facing Britain.
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [250 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Britain

#1  Are you at the Tiger Tiger club, it's gonna be the BOMB!
Posted by: Snereck de Medici6366 || 06/30/2007 2:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Sir Ian Blair, the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, gave warning recently that car and lorry bombs were “the greatest danger” facing Britain.

Ummmm ... no. That honor goes to dangerously useful idiots like Prince Charles, Ken Livingston, George Galloway and a host of other arse-kissing lovers of Islam.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 9:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Wait until Mr Brown settles in, Zenster.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 10:53 Comments || Top||

#4  My memory of security at these hi-tech clubs in London is that they are pretty good. But I doubt the bouncers at Tiger-Tiger could read a 53 page report without falling asleep or asking for help. Obviously, they were oblivious to VBIEDs since they only noticed a Merc angled into a dumpster "after" it started to smoke inside.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/30/2007 12:44 Comments || Top||

#5  The Mercedes crashed into the dumpster, then the driver got out and ran away in a cloud of vapour, Jack. At least according to yesterday's reports. *That's* what the bouncers down the street noticed.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 15:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
New York takes precautions after London bomb defused
New York police intensified patrols of tourist sites, parking garages and the transit system on Friday after explosives experts in London defused a potentially devastating car bomb in the heart of the city.

New York Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said critical response teams reinforced crowded areas like Times Square, the bustling theater district and a square near the Empire State Building that is a magnet for tourists. "We are increasing our coverage in the transit system, certainly for this rush hour this afternoon," Kelly told reporters. "We have vehicle checkpoints that we have instituted on bridges. We're checking parking garages, asking the owners and doing it ourselves, to look for suspicious vehicles."

New York normally puts police on heightened alert in response to security incidents in other countries. "We'll take a little bit of extra precaution," Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on his weekly radio show. "We're going to ramp up a little bit, not dramatically. Some you will notice, some you will not."

Bloomberg said the city was awaiting a report from its London-based officer.
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [263 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  "We have vehicle checkpoints that we have instituted on bridges.

Fucking Brilliant, now they can destroy the Officers, a Bus and a Bridge all at one shot.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 12:13 Comments || Top||


Four indicted in plot to blow up New York airport
Four men were indicted by a federal grand jury in Brooklyn on Friday for an alleged plot to blow up New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport. Russell Defreitas, Kareem Ibrahim, Abdul Kadir and Abdel Nur will face a total of six charges, including conspiracy to attack a mass transportation facility, conspiracy to destroy a public building by explosion and conspiracy to destroy international airport facilities.

Prosecutors said the accused were Islamic extremists who sought to blow up the airport's fuel tanks and part of the 40-mile (64-km) pipeline feeding them from New Jersey. They planned to "discharge and detonate an explosive and other lethal device" to cause "death, serious bodily injury" and "major economic loss," the indictment said.

When the plot was disclosed early this month, law enforcement officials initially described it as "chilling." But authorities have acknowledged the plot was more "aspirational" than operational and posed no immediate threat.
Which means we should have waited, of course, nothing to see, nothing to worry about, move along -- say, are those new pics of Paris Hilton?
Defreitas, 63, a U.S. citizen and native of Guyana who was arrested in New York, will enter his plea at an arraignment scheduled for July 11. Officials said he was a former airport cargo handler who headed the plot and conducted surveillance for the group.

U.S. officials are seeking the extradition of Trinidadian Ibrahim and Guyanese citizens Kadir and Nur who are scheduled to appear at a bail hearing on Monday in Trinidad after they were previously denied bail there. The men sought the help of Jamaat Al Muslimeen, an Islamist extremist group in Trinidad that was behind a 1990 coup attempt on the island, authorities said early this month. Since then a spokesman for the group in Port of Spain has denied any involvement with the men and said Ibrahim left the group 20 years ago.

The men face a maximum of life in prison if convicted on the most serious charge of planning to attack a public transportation system.
This article starring:
Abdel Nur
Abdul Kadir
Jamaat Al Muslimeen
Kareem Ibrahim
Russell Defreitas
Jamaat Al Muslimeen
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  The men face a maximum of life in prison if convicted

Where they will promptly convert as many losers as possile to do their work for them.
Supermax looks like the minimum alternative for Muslim Bombers (And wannabe bombers)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 12:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Clicked too quickly,
The alternative to killing them when caught, where they stand. (See Glasgow Terminal Bombing Article.)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 12:35 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
PIDC bombing suspect arrested
Karachi Police on Friday arrested the alleged mastermind behind a car bomb blast outside the Pakistan Industrial Development Corporation (PIDC) building.

Abdul Hameed Bugti was arrested from a hideout in Garden area on a tip-off. Police claimed that Hameed had masterminded the attack and provided the explosive-laden vehicle used in the blast on November 15, 2005. A Karachi anti-terrorism court has awarded death to two Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA) activists in the same case. The blast killed four security guards and injured 21 other people.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [254 views] Top|| File under:


13 oil tankers blown up
Pro-Taliban militants in Landi Kotal blew up 13 oil tankers supplying fuel to international troops in Afghanistan, officials said on Friday. The explosion on Thursday night targeted tankers parked in the main town of Khyber tribal district, 35 kilometres west of Peshawar, a security official told AFP. “An improvised explosive device planted underneath a tanker went off, triggering a massive fire and gutting 13 tankers,” the official said on condition of anonymity. “We believe that pro-Taliban militants are behind the attack,” he added. He said hundreds of litres of petrol had been wasted. The fire was brought under control by local residents.

Assistant Political Agent Ahmed Khan Orakzai told a private TV channel that the local administration had issued a notice to oil tanker owners to transfer their tankers to a safe place, but they had chosen this site themselves. There was no immediate claim of responsibility from any party. The attack was the latest in a series on trucks and tankers supplying fuel to US bases in eastern and southern Afghanistan.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Local security are useless. They fear retaliation against their families.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/30/2007 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Gee, let's see how close together we can park these things.
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 5:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Easier to guard wingtip-to-wingtip.

Heywaitadamnminute. Those are ours!

/RFK on seeing overheads of McDill, McCoy and Homestead in the middle of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 10:16 Comments || Top||


'Suicide squads hole up in Islamabad mosque'
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said on Friday suicide bombers from an al-Qaeda-linked militant group are holed up in a mosque in the centre of the capital, Islamabad.

Authorities have been locked in a tense standoff for months with clerics and students associated with Lal Masjid, the Red Mosque, who are pushing for imposition of Taliban-style social values in Islamabad. Clerics at the mosque had threatened suicide attacks if government used force against them.
So the gummint will use force to kill them, and the Masjids will kill themselves in response. O-o-o-o-o-kay.
Musharraf said militants of Jaish-e-Mohammad, an al-Qaeda-linked group fighting Indian rule in the disputed Kashmir region, were hiding in the mosque. "They are indoctrinated people," he told a workshop on journalism. "There are also people associated to Jaish-e-Mohammad. They have explosives. Many of them are ready to carry out suicide attacks," he added.

Musharraf, who survived two al-Qaeda-inspired assassination attempts, said the government had tried to resolve the standoff through negotiations to avoid bloodshed in the sprawling mosque complex, which also houses a religious seminary or madrasa.

"Action is ready but timing is important," he said. "I am not a coward person but the issue is tomorrow you will say what have you done. There are women and children inside," he said.
Known as camp-followers.
Lal mosque has long been known as a headquarters of pro-Taliban radicals in Islamabad but trouble began in January when female students attached to the mosque occupied a library next to their madrasa to protest over a campaign to remove mosques built illegally on state land.

In March, students abducted three Pakistani women they accused of running a brothel and held them for several days before forcing them to confess and releasing them. They have also abducted and briefly held policemen, and warned video shops to stop selling Western and Indian films they deemed obscene.

They caused a huge embarrassment for the government last week when they abducted nine people, including six Chinese women, from a massage centre, accusing them of running a brothel. The detainees were released after about 17 hours. China is Pakistan's most steadfast ally and Chinese officials told the visiting Pakistani Interior Minister this week to better safeguard their nationals and businesses in Pakistan.

Maulana Abdul Aziz, chief cleric of the mosque, said his followers would carry out suicide attacks if the government used force.
This article starring:
Maulana Abdul Aziz
Jaish-e-Mohammad
Lal Masjid
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [275 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Maulana Abdul Aziz, chief cleric of the mosque, said his followers would carry out suicide attacks if the government used force.

Mosque blown up, problem solved.

Just toss a 'nade inside and set off a chain reaction.
Posted by: Snereck de Medici6366 || 06/30/2007 2:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Starve them out.
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 5:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Blame President Bush.

/msm
Posted by: Excalibur || 06/30/2007 7:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Just toss a 'nade inside and set off a chain reaction.

Schaweet!
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 8:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Fire Mission...
Posted by: jds || 06/30/2007 10:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Would a 155MM go through the walls? If not, Then shoot thru a door.(Be sure)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 11:50 Comments || Top||

#7  Authorities have been locked in a tense standoff for months

Mistake one.

the government had tried to resolve the standoff through negotiations

Mistake two.

a campaign to remove mosques built illegally on state land.

First positive, but ineffective, just bring a squad of Police and a couple of Bulldozers (Armored) or a Tank or two fitted with Engineers Blades.

What Illegal, Built on Government land Mosque? All I see is a pile of rubble?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 12:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf said on Friday suicide bombers from an al-Qaeda-linked militant group are holed up in a mosque in the centre of the capital, Islamabad, waiting for their respective flights to London.

There fixed that editorial oversight.

/pinch
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/30/2007 12:48 Comments || Top||


Iraq
26 Iranian Backed “Secret Cell” Operatives Killed, 17 Captured in Sadr City
Man -- our guys are busy! And having great success! Keep up the great work, guys

Major operations targets the Qazali Network

Multinational Forces Iraq is pressing on with operations against the Iranian backed “Secret Cells” of the Qazali Network. Coalition forces conducted two major raids inside Sadr City against the Qazali Network early Saturday morning. After encountering heavy resistance during both operations, which included “significant small arms fire and multiple improvised explosive device (IED) attacks” and “attacks with rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs),” Coalition forces counterattacked with armored vehicles. Twenty-six Secret Cell members were killed and 17 captured.

This follows a raid inside Sadr City on June 29 against the same network. One member of the Qazali Network was captured during the operation. “Intelligence reports indicate that the suspected terrorist targeted during the raid is associated with key leaders in the secret cell terrorist network and has ties to Iran,” Multinational Forces Iraq reported in a press release. “It is also believed that the suspected terrorist is responsible for numerous attacks on Iraqi civilians as well as Iraqi and Coalition Forces in Baghdad. The individual is also suspected of recruiting Iraqis to fill the ranks of Iranian terror groups operating in Iraq.”

Also on June 29, one U.S. soldier was killed and three wounded in an explosively-formed penetrator [or EFP] attack in southern Baghdad. Iran has manufactured and supplied the EFPs used by Shia militias to kill Coalition and Iraqi forces in Iraq.

On June 28, Iraqi Special Operations Forces captured a leader of the “rogue Jaysh al-Mahdi” – or Mahdi Army – and five others during a raid in Nasiriyah. “The primary suspect is allegedly responsible for direct attacks on Coalition Forces, rocket attacks on Coalition bases and has been implicated in the kidnappings and murder of Iraqi citizens,” Multinational Forces Iraq reported. “It is also believed he provides financial support to weapons trafficking networks which supply rogue Jaysh Al-Mahdi units in the Baghdad area.”

For the past year, the U.S. has pursued a strategy to fragment Sadr’s Mahdi Army and co opt the “moderate” elements into the political process. The strategy has succeeded, and the Iranian backed elements of the Mahdi Army - referred to as the “rogue Jaysh Al-Mahdi units” by Multinational Forces Iraq – cooperate closely with the Iranian backed Qazali and Sheibani networks. Over the past month, U.S., British and Iraqi security forces have conducted multiple raids and major operations against these networks in Baghdad and southern Iraq.
I love this next sentence!
Coalition and Iraqi forces have killed at least 91 members of the Secret Cell network and captured 112 since April 27, 2007. The operations against the Iranian backed networks are just one part of the ongoing security operations inside Baghdad and the Belts. As Iraqi and Coalition forces are battling al Qaeda and clearing vast regions in an around the capitol in preparation to secure and hold the areas, the Iranian backed cells have remained a primary target.
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 17:13 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under: Mahdi Army

#1  It's a start.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 06/30/2007 17:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Hey, anon - that's my line.

No fair stealing.... ;-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/30/2007 20:36 Comments || Top||


Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri Killed Near Fallujah
Another job opening for junior al Qaeda leaders opens up.
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Coalition Forces positively identified a high-level terrorist killed in an operation June 29 east of Fallujah. Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri, an Egyptian, was a known terrorist and senior leader in al-Qaeda. Intelligence reports indicate he worked directly for Abu Ayyub al-Masri, the chief thug military emir of al-Qaeda in Iraq, and is associated with other al-Qaeda in Iraq senior leaders.

Intelligence reports further indicate he was assessed to be the current Shar'ia Emir of Radwaniyah, responsible for participating in terrorist courts and issuing fatwas. Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri fought with Abu Ayyub al-Masri in Afghanistan in 2002 and 2003, and later came to Iraq with him.

Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri also fought in both battles of Fallujah, and was injured in one. He was detained for six months, but upon his release, he fled relocated to Syria. There, he began working with the network that facilitates the movement of foreign fighters into Iraq, and returned himself in late 2006. While Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri stayed in Iraq, his associates traveled to Pakistan and Afghanistan to personally discuss external planning with al-Qaeda senior leaders.

"Yet another foreign al-Qaeda terrorist has been removed from the al Qaeda network here in Iraq," said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver, MNF-I spokesperson. "This terrorist was a significant figure in the network and was only one step away from Abu Ayyub al-Masri. Iraqis are safer without his presence."

Abu 'Abd al-Rahman Al-Masri was positively identified by several known associates and other detainees from this and previous operations.
"Yup, that's his ear. I'd know that ear anywhere."
(first attempt to post got hung up somewhere - if both eventually arrive, my apologies.)
This article starring:
Abu 'Abd al-Rahman al-Masri
Abu Ayyub al-Masri
chief thug
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 16:08 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [349 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Budda bomp bomp-bomp . . . another one bites the dust . . . bomp bomp-bomp . . . another one bites the dust . . .
Posted by: Mike || 06/30/2007 16:57 Comments || Top||

#2  He was detained for six months, but upon his release

The stupidity of releasing captives knows no bounds. Just what does Centcom think an Egyptian was doing in the Iraqi battle zone? Better they fall through trap door into a shark tank with frickin' lasers on their heads.
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2007 18:47 Comments || Top||

#3  but upon his release

I would love to hear that story.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/30/2007 18:49 Comments || Top||

#4  He was killed because the battery in the implanted microphone/transmitter was running down.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 20:15 Comments || Top||

#5  #2 There used to be a couple of million Egyptians in Iraq---doing jobs Palestinians couldn't do.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 21:12 Comments || Top||

#6  couldn't? or wouldn't? Paleos seem to be top of the heap in welfare queens. I know some have rented themselves out to the MM's in Iran, as they could finally find someone to beat up - the unarmed Iranian civilians....otherwise, they seem to only excel at standing around, throwing rocks at Joooos, breeding more Paleo morons, and metal-shopping bad rockets.
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 21:39 Comments || Top||

#7  There are two kinds of Palestinians: ones who stayed in the camps and ones who moved on. The second kind used to be techs & teachers throughout the petro-Arabia before the first gulf war (Arafat siding with Saddam spoiled it for them).
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 22:00 Comments || Top||

#8  I worked with one. MSCE from Penn State, and....an asshole. I pointed out that the map on his office wall was inaccurate. There is no "Palestine", it's called "Israel". We didn't get along, and I felt good about that.
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 22:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Better they fall through trap door into a shark tank with frickin' lasers on their heads.

Mmmmmm ..... laserhead sharks.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 23:21 Comments || Top||


U.S. raids Baghdad slum; 26 Iraqis die
The enemy narrative is clear, the template is filled in the same way in story after story, event after event.
By HAMID AHMED, Associated Press Writer
Only Muslims now write for the AP?
BAGHDAD - American soldiers rolled into Baghdad's Shiite Sadr City slum on Saturday in search of Iranian-linked militants and as many as 26 Iraqis were killed in what a U.S. officer described as "an intense firefight."

But residents, police and hospital officials said eight civilians were killed in their homes and angrily accused U.S. forces of firing blindly on the innocent. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past.

The U.S. military said it conducted two pre-dawn raids in Sadr City, killing 26 "terrorists" who attacked U.S. troops with small arms fire, rocket-propelled grenades and roadside bombs. But Iraqi officials said all the dead were civilians.

An American military spokesman insisted all of those killed were combatants. "Everyone who got shot was shooting at U.S. troops at the time," said Lt. Col. Christopher Garver. "It was an intense firefight."

Witnesses said U.S. forces rolled into their neighborhood before dawn and opened fire without warning.

"At about 4 a.m., a big American convoy with tanks came and began to open fire on houses — bombing them," said Basheer Ahmed, who lives in Sadr City's Habibiya district. "What did we do? We didn't even retaliate — there was no resistance."

According to Iraqi officials, the dead included three members of one family — a father, mother and son. Several women and children, along with two policemen, were among the wounded, they said.

The assault brought quick criticism from al-Maliki. "The Iraqi government totally rejects U.S. military operations ... conducted without a pre-approval from the Iraqi military command," al-Maliki said in a statement released by his office. "Anyone who breaches the military command orders will face investigation."

A policeman wounded in the raid, Montadhar Kareem, said he was on night duty when U.S. troops moved in and "began bombing houses in the area."

"The bombing became more intense, and I was injured by shrapnel in both my legs and in my left shoulder," Kareem said from a gurney at Al Sadr General Hospital.

Hours afterward, a funeral procession snaked through Sadr City. Three coffins were hoisted atop cars.

One resident who goes by the nickname of Um Ahmed, or "mother of Ahmed," stood outside her home as mourners passed by.

"We are being hit while we are peacefully sleeping in our houses. Is that fair?" she cried. The woman gave only her nickname, fearing reprisal.

The U.S. military statement said American troops opened fire on four civilian cars during the assault — one that failed to stop at a checkpoint, and three that insurgents were using for cover as they shot at U.S. soldiers.

"Every structure and vehicle that the troops on the ground engaged were being used for hostile intent," Garver said. Some of the 26 dead were in civilian cars, some had been hiding behind cars and others had fired on U.S. troops from nearby buildings, he said.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 12:19 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [254 views] Top|| File under: Mahdi Army

#1  When a non-Muslim (Bill Roggio) writes about the same event:

"Multinational Forces Iraq is pressing on with operations against the Iranian backed “Secret Cells” of the Qazali Network. Coalition forces conducted two major raids inside Sadr City against the Qazali Network early Saturday morning. After encountering heavy resistance during both operations, which included “significant small arms fire and multiple improvised explosive device (IED) attacks” and “attacks with rocket-propelled grenades (RPGs),” Coalition forces counterattacked with armored vehicles. Twenty-six Secret Cell members were killed and 17 captured.

This follows a raid inside Sadr City on June 29 against the same network."
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 15:42 Comments || Top||

#2  By HAMID AHMED, Associated Press Writer
Only Muslims now write for the AP?


Local stringers, perhaps? The kind who used to get their salaries from Saddam Hussein?
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 16:01 Comments || Top||

#3  'Hamid' is a Shi'ite name, if I remember correctly.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 16:59 Comments || Top||

#4  We need to do one other thing: gather the corpse, ID them then burn them quickly in a bonfire at the landfill. No more gunsex funerals. You fight us, you die - and you die fighting us, you get burned in the dump with the other trash. No martyrs funeral for you.
Posted by: OldSpook || 06/30/2007 17:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki condemned the raids and demanded an explanation for the assault into a district where he has barred U.S. operations in the past

Easy to do that when you know you won't get bitten by them, isn't it, Maliki? But if you were cooperating better, things would probably be about over by now, your countriy's infrastructure would be rebuilt properly, and you'd be a hero, you moron. And you'd be at the top of the heap. Oh well. When US forces pull out, you'll be in a boatload of trouble, but you probably don't have the brains to realize that it's because of your counterproductive actions. We need somone with some balls and foresight at the helm. Heck, even if you didn't have balls you wouldn't need them if you had any foresight!
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 17:29 Comments || Top||

#6  Hell, I only read AFP anymore. Ain't life weird?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 18:59 Comments || Top||

#7  How about taking a page from history, OldSpook?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 22:18 Comments || Top||


Sunni tribes coming over to our side
Sunni militias that once fought U.S. troops are now seeking to join them, frustrated by al Qaeda's influence in parts of Baghdad, a U.S. commander said on Friday. Maj. Gen. Joseph Fil, commander of U.S. forces in Baghdad, said working with the militias compensates for insufficient Iraqi police presence in some neighborhoods.

"Some of them who have previously been fighting us have come to us as we've spoken with them and they want to fight with us," Fil said. "They are tired of al Qaeda and the influence of al Qaeda in their tribes and in their neighborhoods and they want them cleaned out and they want to form an alliance in order to rid themselves of this blight."

The decision to work with militias, which had previously been cited by Washington as major forces of instability inside Baghdad, follows efforts in Anbar province to help Sunni Arab sheikhs combat Sunni Islamist al Qaeda.
Posted by: Mike || 06/30/2007 08:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [260 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  Don't let the headline fool you. As with everything about Islam, this is an alliance of convenience. At the earliest possible moment, these same exact people will revert to killing us with a smile on their face. There is no accommodation with Islam. It brooks no mixed allegiances and permits no dilution. Islam is the absolute enemy of humanity and we are totally insane to seek any reconciliation with it.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 8:55 Comments || Top||

#2  The Saud terrorist entity indulges subsidization of terrorists, as long as funds come from members of the royal family. The Sunni front of the current war in Iraq is best described as: Saudi Arabia v USA.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/30/2007 9:07 Comments || Top||

#3  As with everything about Islam, this is an alliance of convenience. At the earliest possible moment, these same exact people will revert to killing us with a smile on their face.

Z-boy, you Undiscovered Military Geenyus, you! Just fire off your resume to the National War College and you'll have a job on Monday. No- don't thank me. It's just thinking that nation has the services of such a deep strategic thinker like you is reward enough.

At least the canapes will be to die for.

the usual 2358 and 35-seconds reply, I suppose?
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 9:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Maj. Gen. Joseph Fil, commander of U.S. forces in Panama Baghdad, said working with General Noriegas militias compensates for insufficient Panamanian Iraqi police presence in some neighborhoods.



Posted by: Besoeker || 06/30/2007 9:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Pappy, so long as our own President keeps spewing the Religion of Peace [spit] bullshit, it's incumbent upon others to make sure that nobody buys into such an idiotic notion.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  As with everything about Islam, this is an alliance of convenience. At the earliest possible moment, these same exact people will revert to killing us with a smile on their face.

Ranfidels! All of you! We are kind and gentle people who herd goats and follow a religion of peace, and love. There! I have said it!
Posted by: Besoekermukwalli || 06/30/2007 10:18 Comments || Top||

#7  but, but, but... we're still losing... aren't we?
Posted by: Harry Reid || 06/30/2007 10:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Zenster, from Israel's experience with "Palestinian Police", they'll be doing both simultaneously.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 10:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Just herd, Besoekermukwalli?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 10:51 Comments || Top||

#10  Zenster, could it be that the president is not ready to commit to war against the entire Muslim world all at once with our limited troops and a recalcitrant Congress? Could he possibly even be practicing a bit of taqqiya of his own? Recent polls show that more than 50% of voters will vote against Hillary Clinton. (Sorry t that, Liberalhawk) At this point, as far as I can see (and admittedly on such subjects I see less far into the stone than most) the other democratic candidates are even less electable. Which means it's likely the next president will be either Guiliani or Fred Thompson, both of whom are staunchly for prosecuting the War on Terror, whatever their positions on anything else. (Sorry again, Liberalhawk. But McCain's approval ratings are down around 5% these days.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 11:34 Comments || Top||

#11  Zenster, could it be that the president is not ready to commit to war against the entire Muslim world all at once with our limited troops and a recalcitrant Congress?

Quite obviously so, tw. We aren't even fighting a real war in Iraq.

The point remains that even if we do not declare "war against the entire Muslim world", they have declared war against us. Any reluctance upon our part to recognize this simple fact only costs more lives. Either we fight Islam itself—not individual Muslim majority countries—or resign ourselves to endless terrorist attacks. There are no negotiations, treaties, truces or any other form of rapprochement that Islam can reliably be counted upon to uphold. All that we can be sure of are endless attacks upon the West by Muslims. Either we submit or fight, what is unclear about this?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 14:21 Comments || Top||

#12  We aren't even fighting a real war in Iraq.
Zenster, maybe true, but from all that I've been reading the last 2 weeks, I think Petraeus has us fighting a war. Certainly lots of killings, captures and caches being found. And numerous high and mid-level AQ being either killed or captured. This all reads as extremely more aggressive than we have been since the beginning.
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 14:32 Comments || Top||

#13  This all reads as extremely more aggressive than we have been since the beginning.

Agreed, Sherry, and as you note, taking this to a real war footing is finally getting us some results. I understand how Bush probably wanted to try a gentle approach so as not to alienate the Muslim world with our invasion of Iraq. I just think that there was never really a chance to avoid such a thing in the first place. Muslims want to be alienated. They alienate themselves wherever they go. I'm just hoping we have learned this lesson and no longer tiptoe around in future campaigns. If anything, this surge has proven the only sort of measures that will ever be effective.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 14:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Zenster, there are certain things, which if said aloud in public, functionally are a declaration of war against ALL Muslims everywhere. We are in no way capable of open warfare against not only Iraq and Afghanistan, but also Malaysia, Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Saudi Arabia, Dubhai, Nigeria, South Africa... and the 2 million or so Muslims here in the U.S. However much you and I may disagree on what President Bush knows and believes, he CANNOT make those clarifying statements at this time, nor could he have at any time since 9/11. Not unless we are prepared to glass over the Muslim world while he is still speaking, and have the rest of the world go to war against us as being too dangerous to share the planet with, by next day.

I agree that we are finally fighting in Iraq as it should have been done from the beginning. But we also have the advantage of several years of quiet data gathering, so we know who and where to attack for the best effect. The same way the Brits have already picked up three companions of yesterday's wannabe car bombers because they'd been teasing out the connections for a couple of years. More, faster? My preference, but our side is accelerating up the learning/doing curve, and their side is actually falling off it, as their best players are being removed from the chess board. Having millions of wannabe jihadis does them little good if the only training they have is whatever probably tainted information they can cobble together from the internet.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/30/2007 16:19 Comments || Top||

#15  I hope comment #8 doesn't get lost in all this noise. If anybody knows about trying to work with Arabs toward a common goal, its Israel.

Zen, remember what I said about my brother yesterday. I'm gonna add a little to that. He was in Iraq as U.S. Navy. He got demobed in April, but he's still there. He is with the FBI this time. There is an interesting story about how that came to be. I'm gonna throw you the short version. He got asked to stay personally by Petraeus. That's right, Petraeus himself. Now, you don't know my brother, but I do and I can assure you that if Petraeus wasn't fighting a real war, my brother would be stateside.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 16:49 Comments || Top||

#16  Zenster, there are certain things, which if said aloud in public, functionally are a declaration of war against ALL Muslims everywhere.

Understood, tw. It's why you don't see me agitating for nuclear strikes against the MME (Muslim Middle East). As you go on to note, that is pretty much the only way to militarily address the issue on an overall basis. I'd certainly hope that someone might remember all the times I've specifically argued against America's first use of nuclear weapons. A few people around here love to ignore that fact. It's doubtful they even remember my own support for "moderate" Muslims before I lost all hope over their intervention against jihad.

The fact that we are unwilling or not prepared to enter into a true World War is why I have recently modified my stance about the presence of Muslims in America. Lack of allied support for a genuine campaign against Islam has obliged me to opt for ridding America of the threat. This is why you now see me posting about the banning of Islam being followed up with deportation or internment. Little else promises our country even a modicum of security. Especially so in light of how our politicians refuse to secure America's borders.

Having millions of wannabe jihadis does them little good if the only training they have is whatever probably tainted information they can cobble together from the internet.

While this certainly represents an improvement, it is not the cure. As seen in Glasgow, a little better execution and hundreds or thousands might have died. Ineptitude is nothing to rely upon. In keeping with your own chess analogy, you never count upon your opponent making a bad move. For that reason, we are obliged to treat even amateur jihadis as a real threat. The fact remains that even low-level terrorism still degrades the overall quality of life rather dramatically. That is not something I'm prepared to sacrifice just so we can play nice with America's Muslim population. I'd just as soon legislate them out of existence and send them packing.

Now, you don't know my brother, but I do and I can assure you that if Petraeus wasn't fighting a real war, my brother would be stateside.

Mike N., as I noted above I do think Petraeus is doing a far better job. Iraq is still more of a police action than real war but Petraeus has my full support. Nowhere do you see me calling for withdrawing our troops. We need to keep the conflicts in Muslim lands so that they have a golden opportunity to witness and savor their own Islamic crapulence firsthand.

Please be so kind as to extend my personal thanks and encouragement to your brother. He's doing a job that desperately needs to be done and has my admiration for it.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 18:06 Comments || Top||

#17  I read this the other day from a commenter at Bill Roggio -- sounds like a man who knows that human nature is human nature, and it sometimes takes time for changes to happen.



The "light footprint" strategy was implemented because everywhere else that a "heavy footprint" was tried from the start (Algeria, Afghanistan, Chechnya), the result was massive numbers of deaths of both occupiers and occupied.

Personally, I look at the current situation as part of a continuum: We had to first show the Iraqis that we weren't the French, Soviets, or Russians. That required a relatively light touch. The Iraqis also had to learn for themselves that al Qaeda and the Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias were savages.

Only then would the Iraqis support a much more aggressive approach against their own people.

I think much of what happened in Iraq was inevitable, so I don't use terms like "failed strategy." It was all part of the same strategy to help the Iraqis stabilize themselves for the long term, without backsliding into dictatorship.

Posted by Tom W. | June 20, 2007 4:04 PM
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 18:22 Comments || Top||

#18  I read this the other day from a commenter at Bill Roggio -- sounds like a man who knows that human nature is human nature, and it sometimes takes time for changes to happen.



The "light footprint" strategy was implemented because everywhere else that a "heavy footprint" was tried from the start (Algeria, Afghanistan, Chechnya), the result was massive numbers of deaths of both occupiers and occupied.

Personally, I look at the current situation as part of a continuum: We had to first show the Iraqis that we weren't the French, Soviets, or Russians. That required a relatively light touch. The Iraqis also had to learn for themselves that al Qaeda and the Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias were savages.

Only then would the Iraqis support a much more aggressive approach against their own people.

I think much of what happened in Iraq was inevitable, so I don't use terms like "failed strategy." It was all part of the same strategy to help the Iraqis stabilize themselves for the long term, without backsliding into dictatorship.

Posted by Tom W. | June 20, 2007 4:04 PM
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 18:22 Comments || Top||

#19  Oppsss - got a little impatient with my computer! Sorry --
Posted by: Sherry || 06/30/2007 18:23 Comments || Top||

#20  We aren't even fighting a real war in Iraq.

You'd call it what? A police action? A serial intervention? A neo-con assault against all that is good and lovely? Hell lemme go find 3000 words to fill the bottom part of this post.

Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:05 Comments || Top||

#21  BTW, who won Florida? Gore or BushItler?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:21 Comments || Top||

#22  I got all night.

Der Tag ist like here baby.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:28 Comments || Top||

#23  SHARK WEEK!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:40 Comments || Top||

#24  I gots 0:45 Zulu sweets.
Yeah, I'll wait.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:42 Comments || Top||

#25  I think even the MSM had to cringingly announce Bushitler won....
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 19:47 Comments || Top||

#26  I want to hear it from the horses ass.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:49 Comments || Top||

#27  Yes, I have a long damn memory. I know a troll.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:50 Comments || Top||

#28  If they want to fight with us, we need collateral
Posted by: Snereck de Medici6366 || 06/30/2007 19:50 Comments || Top||

#29  SHARK WEEK!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:52 Comments || Top||

#30  Gawd amighty we're gonna see some damn serious cuting and pasting. Altho maybe may trollish pal is hammering hard on his Remmington. LOL! I doubt it. Originality ain't in it.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:55 Comments || Top||

#31  :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 19:56 Comments || Top||

#32  WTH Ship? Having a conversation again with that voice in your head?
Posted by: ed || 06/30/2007 20:00 Comments || Top||

#33  Yep, that's the one Ed. Fear it.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:12 Comments || Top||

#34  The voice is strong with me tonight Ed, because it's the 1st Annual RantBurg

SHARK WEEK!

No Moron, no troll will go unchallenged.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:15 Comments || Top||

#35  You'd call it what? A police action?

I seem to recall wars involving whole cities going up in flames. Sherry's "light footprint" analysis is on the money.

I also seem to recall that settling the 2000 presidential election required a Supreme Court decree. While my initial opinion of Bush was unfavorable, the democrats have stooped so low for so long that I now give George due credit for having some sort of backbone. Where it has gone lately is anyone's guess. I don't suppose you remember my personal commitment to publicly protest any impeachment action against Bush if he bombed Iran. Neither do I expect that you'll recall how I've never accused him of lying about Iraqi WMDs or claimed this conflict is all about oil. You probably don't even remember me saying that the better man won the 2004 election. So be it.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 20:22 Comments || Top||

#36  Leave Sherry out of this. Your appeal to 3rd parties is boring and obvious.

Who won Florida"
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:27 Comments || Top||

#37  I don't give a damn about your opinion of Bush. Who won Florida?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:30 Comments || Top||

#38  .com Ain't here sweetheart.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:31 Comments || Top||

#39  Bring it in under 4000 words.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:32 Comments || Top||

#40  3 hours and 14 minutes....
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:41 Comments || Top||

#41  3 hours and 5 minutes to roll-over, can he do it? Is his wordprosessor strong enought? Let's standby.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:49 Comments || Top||

#42  I suggest many bolding local usernames, it'll make friends, also appeal to folks that ain't here, and make a summation without cause. Be friendly and topical.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:53 Comments || Top||

#43  And don't appear angry, even if you've shat.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:56 Comments || Top||

#44  2:59 till rollover.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 20:58 Comments || Top||

#45  We need allies of convenience across the entire world. After all, there are more than a billion Muslims - open warfare with even a hundredth of that total would be horrendous. Besides, the Islamic world is not monolithic. For example, the Kurds, the Druze and the Turks are all unsympathetic to the al-Qaeda types. In fact, even within countries like Iran and Pakistan many abhor the Islamic radicals - it is just that they are either too outnumbered, too weak or too intimidated to openly stand against them at this time. Our efforts to break the back of the most directly menacing elements could potentially swing the balance in some places (Lebanon comes to mind).

Whatever other miscalculations he is guilty of, the president is correct in believing that we must forge alliances with moderate Muslims and strengthen existing ties - the alternative to targeted warfare against the most dangerous fringe and a detente with those we still oppose would ensure that the most apocalyptic predictions of intercivilizational conflict come true.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/30/2007 21:00 Comments || Top||

#46  Whatever, let's kill 'em all.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:02 Comments || Top||

#47  2:50 until rollover.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:06 Comments || Top||

#48  I'm with Shipman. At this point, I don't even care who it is, let's just nuke someone. Islam, Mexico, France, Poland, I don't care.

Heck, why stop there? We could kill EVERYBODY!
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 21:07 Comments || Top||

#49  LOL Mike, you knocked me off my game. Did unseen forces send you to do that?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 21:14 Comments || Top||

#50  Right wing opposition to the President only surfaced about a month ago, after he announced his Kosovo surrender. He solidified the opposition by returning to DC's Islamic Center, to give a dhimmi speech. Now he has signalled extreme deference to the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which is islam's vulgar answer to the UN.

Republican Congress members will settle on Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran policies, sometime in September, when an objective evaluation of the "surge" will be possible. If the President has chosen to coast to the end of his rule, in a manner inoffensive to the Dems, then he could face internal pressure. I have the same doubts as Zenster, as to if the President will embrace a hardline. However, politics is the art of the possible.
Posted by: McZoid || 06/30/2007 21:34 Comments || Top||

#51  2:50 until rollover.

Rollover, Ship.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:13 Comments || Top||

#52  Damn, I thought it was Eastern.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:15 Comments || Top||

#53  1:38 until rollover.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 22:18 Comments || Top||

#54  I have the same doubts as Zenster, as to if the President will embrace a hardline.

No offense intended, McZoid, but nowhere near the fan club. Be grateful.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 22:34 Comments || Top||


Turkey warns of plans to invade northern Iraq
Turkey has prepared a blueprint for the invasion of northern Iraq and will take action if US or Iraqi forces fail to dislodge the guerrillas of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) from their mountain strongholds across the border, Turkey's foreign minister Abdullah Gul has warned.
A message he's been giving for several weeks.
"The military plans have been worked out in the finest detail. The government knows these plans and agrees with them," Mr Gul told Turkey's Radikal newspaper. "If neither the Iraqi government nor the US occupying forces can do this [crush the PKK], we will take our own decision and implement it," Mr Gul said. The foreign minister's uncharacteristically hawkish remarks were seen as a response to pressure from Turkey's generals, who have deployed some 20,000-30,000 troops along the borders with Iraq, and who are itching to move against the rebels they say are slipping across the border to stage attacks inside Turkey.

Among other things, Turkish military planners have been working on a scheme to establish a buffer zone on Iraqi soil to try to stop the rebels' movements.
The US and the EU regard the PKK as a terrorist outfit, but Washington is nervous of any military operations by its Nato ally that could destabilise Iraq's Kurdistan region. There are fears too that any instability in the north could play into the hands of Iran, facing growing problems with its own Kurdish population.

The PKK, which has had a presence in the remote border areas of Iraq since the 1980s, has about 2,000-3,000 guerrillas on Iraqi soil. Their camps are dotted along the densely wooded ravines and in some of the regions' many caves high up in the limestone peaks. They remain out of reach of Iraq's Kurdish authorities, who fought unsucessfully alongside Turkey in the 1990s to oust them from their bases.

Authorities in Ankara say the PKK, which declared a unilateral ceasefire last year, are behind recent bombings in the cities of Ankara, Izmir and Diyarbakir, as well as attacks on Turkish security forces in the mostly Kurdish south-east.

So far the Turkish military have confined themselves to shelling across the border and raids by units of special forces. In separate remarks yesterday, Mr Gul said, however, that Turkey was also considering air strikes against the PKK's bases in the Iraqi Kurdish mountains.

He said that, unlike a cross-border incursion involving troops and tanks, air raids would need no prior parliamentary approval. The Turkish parliament is in recess until national elections on July 22.

Mr Gul did not rule out the prospect of parliament reconvening before the elections to sanction an incursion. In a fresh bout of sabre-rattling on Wednesday, the chief of staff, General Yasar Buyukanit, asked the government in Ankara to set the parameters for an incursion across the border. "Will we go to northern Iraq just to fight PKK rebels, or, for example, what will we do if we come under attack from local Iraqi Kurdish groups?" Gen Buyukanit said.

The general's remarks rang alarm bells both in Arbil - the Iraqi Kurdish regional capital - and Baghdad, where they were interpreted as a request to also go after Iraq's Kurdish authorities, whom Turkey accuses of aiding the PKK fighters.

The Turkish prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has until now resisted the demands of his chief of staff. The priority, he argues, should be to tackle the thousands of PKK guerrillas who are already inside Turkey. Observers say the moderate Islamist is loath to put further strain on ties with Washington. US officials in Baghdad have stressed the need for dialogue to resolve the issue. Iraq's Kurdish leaders have said they are willing to help mediate. Ankara, however, refuses to recognise the Kurdistan regional government in Iraq.
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [254 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Turkey needs stuffing.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 2:01 Comments || Top||

#2  They're going after terrorists. I'm for it.
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 5:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Why can't they just secure their own borders like we do?
Posted by: Perfesser || 06/30/2007 8:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Whahahahahahaa
Posted by: Besoeker || 06/30/2007 10:14 Comments || Top||

#5  I say "Turn our backs and sing loudly while the Turks eliminate this problem"

Play Sgt Schultz here,
"I see Nothing, Nothing."
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/30/2007 12:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Sounds like Turks are doing what we should do in Afganistan/Pakistan which is to go after the terrorists even if they cross a border. Deny them a safe haven. Kurdistan Workers Party sounds like a bunch of commies who need killing. I'd be a little more sympathetic if they were causing problems in Iran instead of Turkey.
Posted by: Elmereter Hupash6222 || 06/30/2007 13:13 Comments || Top||

#7  The Turks had a chance to solve this problem four years ago. They blew it. We're gpoing to need a powerful Kurdistan if the donks get their way. No point in helping the Turks defang it. We should tell them not to mess with Iraq unless they want to deal with us. If it hurts NATO, so much the better.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/30/2007 13:42 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel killed three senior Islamic Jihad militants and a rocket man
It sure is tiring correcting a rooters jihadispatch© (heh).
GAZA (Reuters) - In an effective and targeted attack against genocidal jihadi murderers, Israel killed six terrorist Palestinians in two air strikes in Gaza on Saturday, including three senior Islamic Jihad terrorist militants and a rocket manufacturer for an armed terrorist wing of Western-backed President Mahmoud Abbas's terrorist Fatah group.
Cueing theme "Nice shot".
Israel's attacks aimed at tightening its military pressure on the terrorist Hamas-ruled territory it wants to isolate, came three days after an effective counter-terror offensive in which 12 terrorist Palestinians were killed in the Shitty. Literally. coastal territory.
An Israeli military spokesman confirmed two aerial attacks in Gaza, including one that targeted a car of Gaza terrorist militants he said were involved in plotting a terrorist suicide bombing and in past terrorist attacks against Israel.
Pictures of the patented "Paleo CarSwarm©" at LGF shortly as the paleos look for the valuable 'chunk-o'-jihadi©' pieces they prize so much.
Palestinian security sources and witnesses said the three terrorist militants killed in the first strike in the town of Khan Younis were commanders of the terrorist Islamic Jihad group in Gaza.
The terrorist militants were identified as Raed and Zeyad Ghannam and Mohamed al-Rai. Israel and Islamic Jihad said the three were long wanted by Israel for rocket firings and other attacks dating back to before Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005.

The second Israeli air strike killed the local commander of a rocket production crew with theterrorist al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades of Abbas's less-than-fully-jihadi secular Fatah faction, whose forces ran away like the bully cowards they are were routed by terrorist Hamas Islamists in Gaza two weeks ago, the terrorist brigades said.
The terrorist commander's son and an employee of his metal shop also died in the strike, the terrorist group added in its statement.
Cue Elton John's "Rocket man".
Israel has bombed terrorist rocket-building metal foundries in the past, knowing alleging they produce rockets fired at Israel, but witnesses said Saturday's attack was the first carried out during working hours rather than late at night when they were unstaffed.
Heh. Message received?
Two rockets fired from Gaza shortly after the air strikes stuck in the Israeli town of Sderot, causing no injuries, the army said.
The wonders of Paleo technology.
HAMAS REJECTS INTERNATIONAL FORCE
......
Yada yada yada. Islam. Yawn.
Posted by: Rooters Corrections, a Division of Halliburton || 06/30/2007 15:58 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Jihad

#1  Sorry about the highlighting error. I can't see it in Safari.
Posted by: Brett || 06/30/2007 17:23 Comments || Top||

#2  If I was a young muzzie in Gaza, I wouldn't join IJ. It's dangerous. True, there is more upward mobility (they guarantee you will be leader within two years) and the retirement is solid (no one has lived long enough to collect).
Posted by: Penguin || 06/30/2007 19:08 Comments || Top||

#3  I saw it just fine in Safari. Fixed it. Man, I loves a car-swarm.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/30/2007 19:29 Comments || Top||

#4  WTF do they do with the Jihadi Nuggets© they collect? Eat em? Freeze em for show and tell when guests come over?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 19:32 Comments || Top||

#5  It's biblical DocMan, it is said that Moses cominmg down from Mt. Sinai is break the rod in his Fury.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 19:48 Comments || Top||

#6  "A rocket man". Now that brings on memories.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||


Israel kills militant from Abbas's Fatah movement
Israeli troops killed a Palestinian militant from President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement on Friday on the second day of a large-scale military raid targeting armed loyalists of the Western-backed leader.

Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad has accused Israel of trying to undermine Abbas's emergency cabinet by conducting the raid despite the Palestinian leader's vows to take his own steps to disarm gunmen.
This militant certainly was disarmed. And dis-legged, and de-headed.
An Israeli military spokeswoman said soldiers had shot the Palestinian as he fled from troops in a refugee camp near the West Bank city of Nablus. Officials of the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades of Fatah said the 28-year-old militant had belonged to their group, and that Israeli soldiers had shot him as he ran away fled arrest. Medics confirmed he had been killed.
"Looks mighty dead to me, Ari."
"Yup."
Israel launched the raid on Thursday, sending in 50 armoured vehicles to the Nablus area. Troops clamped a curfew on the city centre and conducted house-to-house searches for militants suspected of involvement in violence against Israel. The Israeli raid signalled the Jewish state would continue to pursue Fatah militants despite its pledges to bolster Abbas as he tries to stabilise his hold in the West Bank after Hamas Islamists seized control of the Gaza Strip two weeks ago.

In fighting on Thursday, Israel fired rubber coated steel bullets that injured seven Palestinians, and five Israeli soldiers were also wounded in the violence, Israeli and Palestinian security sources said. Soldiers also arrested nine Palestinians after finding a bomb production facility in Nablus, the Israeli army said.

In response to Friday's killing, a spokesman for the militants, Ala Sanakeh, said the group would not honour Abbas's decree issued earlier this week to hand over their weapons. He said weapons were needed to respond to Israeli incursions.
This article starring:
al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades
al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades
Posted by: lotp || 06/30/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [323 views] Top|| File under: Fatah

#1  Israeli seems to be winning the "hearts and brains"
Posted by: Snereck de Medici6366 || 06/30/2007 2:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Medics confirmed he had been killed.

This inspired a new twist on an old joke:

Two new IDF soldiers are out on patrol near the West Bank where they were attacked by a terrorist and have to shoot him. He doesn't seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. One of the soldiers takes out his phone and calls their commander.

He gasps: "The guy seems to be dead! What should we do?" The commander says: "Calm down, I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead." There is a silence, then a gunshot is heard. The soldier gets back on the phone and says: "OK, now what?"
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 7:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Rubber coated steel bullets? what is the purpose? prevent sparks when ricocheting? rust prevention?
somebody please 'splain.
Posted by: USN, ret. || 06/30/2007 9:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Here you are, O Retired One.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Rubber coated steel bullets? what is the purpose?

Traction.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 10:17 Comments || Top||

#6  The Israeli raid signalled the Jewish state would continue to pursue Fatah militants despite its pledges to bolster Abbas as he tries

Bad, bad Juden.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 10:59 Comments || Top||

#7  #3 Legacy of the first Intifada. The f*ckers are supposed to be nonlethal. But, in practice, they're totally ineffective.
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/30/2007 11:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Thanks, Pappy. I guess somewhere in the abyss that passes for a brain I knew that a 'rubber bullet' would not handle the forces involved in being fired, but I did not connect the dots to a solid core (steel).
Posted by: USN, ret. || 06/30/2007 15:43 Comments || Top||

#9  Boy howdy, when the TV starts showing reruns of last summers war with Hezbullah, I'm sure Israel will he happy they banged a Fatah gunnie.
Posted by: Mike N. || 06/30/2007 19:17 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
One shot dead, two wounded in southern Thai terrorist attacks
A local administration official was shot dead in this southern border province Saturday morning. Abdulroh Maelannateh, 53, was shot and killed on Thanto - Sri Thanam Road in Puyud in Tambon Thanto of Yala's Thanto district at 9:30 am, police said.

And:

Two Thai Border Patrol police officers were ambushed and severely wounded in Narathiwat on Friday, and are fighting for life now in in two southern hospitals. Pol.L/C Uaychai Suwanwisut and Pol.Sgt-Maj. Prasit Putdam were ambushed as they returned home after finishing their duties. The two were attacked on a road in Sri Sakhon district. Shot in the head, L/C Uaychai was airlifted by helicopter to a hospital in Songkhla while the other officer was shot in the shoulder and taken to a local hospital for treatment.

According to the preliminary investigation, an unknown number of assailants armed with assault rifles opened fire at two officers on a motorcycle. They exchanged gunfire for about five minutes before the attackers retreated.
Posted by: ryuge || 06/30/2007 08:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [300 views] Top|| File under: Thai Insurgency

#1  The level of bombings and killings here have got to be approaching the Afghan rates. Two to three bombings a week? We just have not gotten to the mass bombings yet. Then Thailand will move to number two.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 06/30/2007 12:05 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Explosive-packed truck found in Sri Lanka
Be they Moose-limbs or Tamils, bombings are getting frequent, and tiresome.
COLOMBO — Sri Lanka’s navy found about 1,000 kilograms (2,200 pounds) of explosives in a truck and arrested a person nearby, in whatmay have been a planned attack by Tamil Tiger rebels.

Sailors found the explosive-laden truck parked in a fishing village near the eastern port town of Trincomalee, 215 kilometers (135 miles) northeast of the capital, Colombo, a top navy official said on condition of anonymity, citing restrictions from his command. One person was arrested nearby, the official said, adding that the navy believes the Tamil Tiger rebels may have prepared the truck for an attack.
Brilliant, fellows, brilliant, how do you do it?
Attempts to contact Tiger officials for comment were unsuccessful.
Go figure.
Early this month police said they stopped a truck containing about the same amount of explosives in the northwestern village of Nikaweratiya, heading off a possible suicide attack.

The Tigers have in the past driven explosive-packed trucks into military and economic targets in suicide attacks, causing massive damage.
Posted by: || 06/30/2007 00:27 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Bush banned entry to US for Syrians with Lebanon links
President George W. Bush on Friday banned entry to the United States by Syrian and Lebanese officials whom Washington accuses of undermining the Lebanese government, the White House said.

The list of Syrian officials the United States considers to have meddled in Lebanon includes Assef Shawkat, Syria's director of military intelligence ( brother-in-law of president Bashar el-Assad), Hisham Ikhtiyar, adviser to President Assad and the former head of Syria's security apparatus in Lebanon, Rustom Ghazali , Juma'a Juma'a, top Syrian military intelligence official, according to information provided by the White House. The list of the Lebanese who are banned entry includes the four former Lebanese ministers - Abdel-Rahim Mrad, Assad Hardan, Assem Qanso and Michel Samaha, Wiam Wahhab and former MP Nasser Qandil The U.S. move followed repeated calls by Washington for Damascus to stop fomenting instability in Lebanon.
Posted by: Fred || 06/30/2007 10:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [266 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria

#1  This ban needs to be extended to the entire MME (Muslim Middle East).
Posted by: Zenster || 06/30/2007 10:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Another compelling reason to get the UN out of USA and relocated to Lagos, Nigeria. When I was in the biz, we rated overseas locations 1 to 10. 1 being the best - like Hong Kong or Paris. Lagos was given an 11.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 06/30/2007 12:55 Comments || Top||


Lebanon: Palestinian Protest at Beddawi Turns Bloody - Army Kills 3
Three demonstrators were shot dead on Friday as angry Palestinians tried to march home to their besieged Nahr al-Bared camp in the north, even as Lebanese troops and Fatah al-Islam militants battled at the shantytown.

The confrontation between the army and Palestinians was the first major trouble between the two sides since fighting broke out last month at Nahr al-Bared. An Nahar newspaper said Saturday that three protestors were killed and 50 others wounded.

Premier Fouad Saniora, who was visiting Italy, spoke by phone with security officials and PLO representative Abbas Zaki, urging them to contain the incident. He warned that some groups, which he did not identify, might try to push the situation toward "acts that harm both the Lebanese and Palestinians," the state-run National News Agency said.

After the army and Fatah al-Islam began battling May 20, thousands of Palestinian refugees fled Nahr al-Bared, and most took refuge at Beddawi, few kilometers away. With fighting dragging on at Nahr al-Bared, the displaced are now demanding to be allowed to return to their homes.

On Friday, demonstrators massed at Beddawi to protest their situation, and some then tried to march toward the besieged camp. The state news agency ANI said after Friday prayers about 100 protesters rushed the military checkpoint outside Beddawi, forcing troops to open fire after they refused to pull back.

The army issued a communiqué saying the demonstrators carried sticks and sharp tools and blocked the main road with tires and barriers.

"Army troops worked hard to end this action peacefully but got no response from the protesters who tried to push their way into the military checkpoints, ignoring warning shots by soldiers," the communiqué said

An Nahar said two soldiers were killed in a landmine explosion inside Nahr al-Bared Friday. Throughout the day, exchanges of light arms fire were punctuated by the crash of shells in the camp's southern sector to which Fatah al-Islam fighters have retreated as the army tries to crush the almost six-week-old attack.

With any political solution increasingly unlikely, a group of Islamic clerics announced they were calling off their mediation efforts between the army and the militants. "The only way out is a political solution," they said in a statement handed out to reporters in Beirut.

They insisted on the return of refugees and reconstruction of their homes, stressing the Lebanese army was responsible for the security of both Lebanese and Palestinian civilians. (AP-AFP-Naharnet)
Posted by: mrp || 06/30/2007 08:59 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [298 views] Top|| File under: Fatah al-Islam

#1  With any political solution increasingly unlikely, a group of Islamic clerics announced they were calling off their mediation efforts between the army and the militants. "The only way out is a political solution," they said in a statement handed out to reporters in Beirut.

Meaning they'll back any Hezb'allah-initiated coup.

They insisted on the return of refugees and reconstruction of their homes, stressing the Lebanese army was responsible for the security of both Lebanese and Palestinian civilians.

Um, no. That stupid clause works both ways. If they're outside the camps, then they're a threat.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/30/2007 9:55 Comments || Top||

#2  hmmm Paleo guests seem to be demanding the run of the house, eh? aim higher, Lebs
Posted by: Frank G || 06/30/2007 11:29 Comments || Top||

#3  They're refugees(?) - let them take refuge with someone else, say Syria or Iran.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/30/2007 12:36 Comments || Top||

#4  They spread joy wherever they go...
Posted by: tu3031 || 06/30/2007 12:38 Comments || Top||


Good afternoon...
Posted by: || 06/30/2007 12:34 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [263 views] Top|| File under:

#1  imdb: Where Are They Now

(1994) Retired after 25 years at Litton Data Systems as a Customer Relations coordinator.

I wouldn't have minded having my customer relations coordinated like that. Kinda thing makes you want to call Litton Data Systems and open an account.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 06/30/2007 13:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Merry me on the Down Low, I got the Low Down too.
Posted by: RD || 06/30/2007 13:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Purdy face.
Posted by: Blinky Glealet4161 || 06/30/2007 15:49 Comments || Top||

#4  Damnit, Blinky? For gawds sake Bliny? Fred's nameMachine was lying in wait forme.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/30/2007 15:51 Comments || Top||

#5  She's waiting for me to find my paddle . . . . :-)
Posted by: gorb || 06/30/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||



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4al-Qaeda in Britain
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2Mahdi Army
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Fri 2007-06-29
  Car bomb defused in central London
Thu 2007-06-28
  Brown replaces Blair
Wed 2007-06-27
  Lebanon arrests 40 Fatah al-Islam gunnies
Tue 2007-06-26
  Tony Blair to be confirmed as Middle East envoy
Mon 2007-06-25
  Boomer kills 6 UN soldiers in south Lebanon
Sun 2007-06-24
  Lal Masjid Students Free Chinese Women
Sat 2007-06-23
  Larijani admits Iran financing Hamas
Fri 2007-06-22
  Paks post reward for murdering Rushdie
Thu 2007-06-21
  Leb Army takes over Nahr al-Bared
Wed 2007-06-20
  Boom kills 78 in Baghdad
Tue 2007-06-19
  Pakistan: U.S. Missile Kills 32 Hard Boyz
Mon 2007-06-18
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Sun 2007-06-17
  Looters raid Arafat's house, steal his Nobel Peace Prize
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