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2004-05-26 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-26 6:14:54 AM|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I usually like Ajami. I think here he is perhaps excessively pessimistic. Fallujah is not all of Iraq. He doesnt trust Brahimi, nor do I, but it seems that many pro-democractic politicians will be appointed to the transitional govt anyway. He is disappointed at the failure of secularism to emerge full throttle. So am I. But democracy is still taking root I think, and even Shistani sees it as the best guarantor of stability and Shia rights. If Ajami wrote this to put more pressure on the admin to support democracy in general, and Iraqi secularists in particular, I applaud it. I do not see the basis for giving up, not without a closer analysis of the (not yet announced) new government. And not without seeing the outcome of elections (which at least at the local level have tended to return secularists and independents more than Islamists) Iraq is, unfortunately not populated with millions of Fouad Ajamis. I still have faith in its people, and the possibility of a good outcome.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-26 10:25:40 AM|| 2004-05-26 10:25:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The only way for Iraq to succeed as a form of democratic (and I use the term extremely liberally) enterprise is to for the USA to let Syria and Iran know in no uncertain terms - mess with Iraq and we will piss on you with daisy cutters! Will this happen? I doubt it. It hasn't happened yet and that is the main cause of all the insurgency - that is where the moral, financial and logistic support is coming from as well as the strange combo of Baathist-Shia interests.

Posted by Jack is Back! 2004-05-26 11:10:11 AM|| 2004-05-26 11:10:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sharia is being implemented in Falluja. They are moving quickly with bully tactics while their 'victory' over America is fresh on the sheeps minds. Sharia, they deserve that. How long until their mullahs can't get a taxi?

Interesting to note that those that sell porno or booze are even around. But they will be and they'll be part of the black market mafia that is islamic society. Sharia is just a tool to keep the folk polite to the boss.

Posted by Lucky 2004-05-26 12:20:08 PM|| 2004-05-26 12:20:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Arab anger

Someone should trademark this phrase & collect royalties on its use. They'd be rich in a few weeks!

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