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Posted by Nimble Spemble 2009-03-08 07:27|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 And guess what happens when such intelligent, entrepreneurial types go home to discover a stifling bureaucracy, and an ignorant and superstitious government filled with socialists eager to redistribute their wealth?

Posted by Anonymoose 2009-03-08 10:29||   2009-03-08 10:29|| Front Page Top

#2 So where are the H1-B visas for lawyers, politicians and investment bankers?
Posted by ed 2009-03-08 10:30||   2009-03-08 10:30|| Front Page Top

#3 ed, I don't think India issues H1-B visas to foreigners like Dodd, Frank, Raines, etc. but it's a nice thought.
Posted by AlanC 2009-03-08 10:58||   2009-03-08 10:58|| Front Page Top

#4 As of Sept. 30, 2006, more than a million people were waiting for the 120,000 permanent-resident visas granted each year to skilled workers and their family members.

You'll have to take that issue up with Nancy and Harry who are more interested in TEN million who didn't even bother to go through the entire process, but who they want to vote by the next election. The Nancy and Harry Show is not interested in people who won't be dependent upon them for their existence like good serfs.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-03-08 11:10||   2009-03-08 11:10|| Front Page Top

#5 WaPo gets one right. Just as our lesser lights don't want illegals from Mexico coming in and taking their jobs by working for less (or even just by working at all), our brighter lights don't want competition for the more elite jobs. They skate through school and get C's in (at most) Civil Engineering and expect to be paid to design the next generation of stealth aircraft or nuclear power plants. So they put up roadblocks to those who actually learned partial differential equations (mostly Asians).
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-03-08 12:07||   2009-03-08 12:07|| Front Page Top

#6 So, Glenmore, why should an American get a PhD in a difficult discipline, when at any moment:
a) He could be replaced by an Indian with an H1B visa, or
b) His job could be outsourced to a team of programmers in India or China, or
c) If he does succeed here in America, the government will tax and/or regulate his company to death?
Posted by Rambler in Virginia">Rambler in Virginia  2009-03-08 14:47||   2009-03-08 14:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Because a PhD in an 'easy' discipline does not prepare one for productive work at all, whereas if you have learned something productive you at least have a chance to compete with the foreigners who have learned it. In general, for equally qualified and compensated workers in this country, the corporations will take the citizens over the H1B visa. Any job can be outsourced, but your odds are better (still not good, but better) if you are good at your job. I wish I had an argument for your third point - it does appear we have already outsourced our government.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-03-08 15:13||   2009-03-08 15:13|| Front Page Top

#8 And in the end, we as a country are better off if bright young Indians and Chinese come here and join us and add to our economy than if they go home/stay home and take their contributions to our economy with them. (Our livestyle and freedoms have tended to be addictive to immigrants over the decades - all my engineering profs were Russians or European Jews who fled Hitler and/or Stalin.) Outsourcing everything is even worse than outsourcing almost everything.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2009-03-08 15:18||   2009-03-08 15:18|| Front Page Top

#9 In general, for equally qualified and compensated workers in this country, the corporations will take the citizens over the H1B visa.

In your dreams. An America who has the 'go' will seek, just like the business, a better deal for himself. The H1-B loses their ticket if they jump ship. It's just as much about control as it is about ability. Businesses are loath to issue binding contracts to American workers because they count such items as liabilities not as assets [just look at Detroit] since they obligate the corp for financial compensation they could otherwise address by simple termination.
Posted by Procopius2k 2009-03-08 16:00||   2009-03-08 16:00|| Front Page Top

#10 Glenmore, I wouldn't try selling that to 3dc if I were you.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2009-03-08 17:18||   2009-03-08 17:18|| Front Page Top

#11 They skate through school and get C's in (at most) Civil Engineering

Hey! I was living in the fraternity house at the time! C's were like gold, man
Posted by Frank G 2009-03-08 18:12||   2009-03-08 18:12|| Front Page Top

#12 CNN NEWS this AM > Guest Pert - proclaims US GOP IS NOW A HEAVILY FRACTURED, WEAK MINORITY PARTY. US DEMS = DEMOLEFT could score points vee RUSH LIMBAUGH by potraying the GOP-Right as dedicated or manic followers of LIMBAUGH = the MAHARUSHIE???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-03-08 19:03||   2009-03-08 19:03|| Front Page Top

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