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Not sure why he'd lie on a death-bed confession (if it's real) except to gain inmortality amung the wing-nuts.
Fact is the American father of modern rocketry Goddard, had a scientific station outside of Roswell New Mexico in the late 40s. He died prior to the Roswell incident but the cold war and missiles and secrecy being a growing concern I imagine his work continued and the whole incident was a cover-up either to shake out a spy or to cover up a crashed rocket.
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#2: Of course it was aliens. Ferengi, to be precise.
I followed the link, that's hilarious.
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Buzz Aldrin has been recently saying in the news that they saw UFOs on the missions to the moon. He also mentioned something about ships being seen on the moon.
I just talked to Buzz Aldrin on the phone, and he notes that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). Apparently all of this discussion about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that they had seen a UFO.
have said if Aldrin told him Seven of Nine waved at him from a shuttlecraft?
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07/01/2007 13:47 Comments ||
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None of it is true!
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If Aldrin really did intend to reveal a UFO encounter, as the paid ufo proponent alleges in the original story about his remarks, would he not instantly come forward and contradict Morrison's version?
According to ufo proponents, Morrison would automatically lie because he is part of the system. Is Aldrin not also part of the system, a much more prominent part than Morrison ever thought about being?
What it comes down is that "he seems credible"* when someone says what ufologists want to hear, but he is part of the great 60 year long global conspiracy otherwise.
This whole subculture is about the manipulation of credibility; that is, of authority. It is a personal power cult and nothing else.
"Nobody can force to admit that I am not making sense, nyah nyah!."
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As for this affidavit, where is (and was) it on file? Who came forward with it? When was it written? What is the proof of its authenticity? What was Haut's mental condition late in life?
The story is notably vague about these details.
A few years ago, I went to Roswell to interview surviving witnesses. All of them wanted money for their testimony, with the notable exception of the handful who were willing to say it was a hoax.
Now, you might be wondering why I would even suggest that someone can affect the manner and style of his death. Well, it's because of a mysterious and little-known stage of dying, the two-minute warning. Most people are not aware of it, but it does exist. Just as in football, two minutes before you die you receive an audible warning: "Two minutes! Get your shit together!" And the reason most people don't know about it is because the only ones who hear it are dead two minutes later. They never get a chance to tell us.
But such a warning does exist, and I suggest that when it comes, you use your two minutes to entertain and go out big. If nothing else, deliver a two-minute speech. Pick a subject you feel passionate about, and just start talking. Begin low-key, but, with mounting passion, build to a rousing climax. Finally, in the last few seconds, scream at those around you, "If these words are not the truth, may God strike me dead!" He will. Then simply slump forward and fall to the floor. Believe me, from that moment on, people will pay more attention to you."
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The term "death-bed confession" is certainly misleading in this context, since the story itself indicates that the statement was written and hidden away some time ago, to be brought forward after Haut's death.
Specifically this term assigns a lot more credibility (remember the mantra)to the statement than would otherwise be warranted.
How long ago was it written and who had possession of it during the interim?
#14
Haut was 4 years from his deathbed when he gave this statement. (The link is a ufo site). Note that the affidavit itself was first published last year.
The angry father of an Australian boxing champion arrested in Lebanon said yesterday his son had been brainwashed by a radical Muslim cleric who had been based in Liverpool.
Father-of-five Mamdouh Elomar attacked Sheik Feiz Mohammed yesterday, saying his hardline approach to Islam was wrong. He told The Sun-Herald that he urged his children to stay away from the cleric and the Global Islamic Youth Centre at Liverpool.
"Sheiks like Sheik Feiz ruin people," he said from his south-west Sydney home. "He is not a sheik. He is brainwashing all these children. I know my religion so I can tell him when he is wrong, but these kids believe everything he says and think it's their religion. Someone needs to stop him. Today our kids are either at one extreme, partying or using drugs, or at another extreme with their religion. I don't teach my children to hate non-Muslims. I have taught them to love everyone."
Mr Elomar's son Ahmed, 24, nicknamed "Trigger" in the boxing community, was arrested in Lebanon last month with two other Australians, Ibrahim Sabouh and Mohammad Basal, and accused of having links to a terror cell in Lebanon. The men have not been charged. He had been holidaying in Tripoli, Lebanon, for two weeks with his wife, Najat, 25, and two sons aged five and three before his arrest 11 days ago. The young father was considering moving to Lebanon after falling in love with the country last year.
The Sun-Herald understands that the featherweight champion, who is also the nephew of Sydney terror suspect Mohammad Ali Elomar, left his wife's family home at 10am with several friends and was arrested several hours later. His father said it was still unclear if he was arrested in a raid or on the street for not having identification.
"I know in my heart that my son has done nothing wrong," Mr Elomar said. "But if he has, I support the Lebanese Government and army. Ahmed is a good boy and cheeky, but he has a soft heart." He said he had never heard of Ibrahim Sabouh, but thought his son might have known Mohammad Basal.
Ahmed, also known as "the Lebanese cowboy" because of his passion for Arabian horses, was devastated after his uncle was arrested in November 2005. "It's disappointing because my uncle's not like that," he said in 2005. "It's upset the whole family."
Meanwhile, Sheik Feiz, who is working as a carpenter in Malaysia having earlier moved to Lebanon to escape constant ASIO surveillance, said through an associate last week that he was aware that he was wanted for questioning in Lebanon.
He said he was outraged by the allegations that he and his friends were linked to a terror cell. "We should be entitled to say what we want so as long as we don't hurt anyone," he said through his associate. "I know they [Lebanese authorities] want to talk to me, but I am not afraid because I haven't done anything. I will leave it in God's hands."
Sheik Feiz also said he had spoken to a Lebanese citizen captured with the Australians who witnessed one of the men being beaten. He said he wanted the Australian Government to try harder to help its citizens.
When Turkey came to town last month, the home team's largely Muslim fans bonded with the visitors over shared enemies. Ed Vulliamy reports from Bosnia, where racial tensions continue but aren't enough to stop a football thriller
At the beginning, worshipers at the Islamic Center of Irvine said, they thought Craig Monteilh was just an overzealous convert when he criticized U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East. But when he started talking about jihad and dropped oblique references to violence, congregants contacted authorities.
On Friday, an Orange County judge issued a restraining order barring Monteilh from going near the mosque and its employees. Members of the mosque testified Friday in court that the FBI opened an investigation earlier this month. An FBI spokeswoman declined to confirm or deny that an investigation was underway.
Monteilh, 44, has not responded to numerous telephone calls and e-mails seeking comment and did not appear at the hearing. He told mosque members he worked as a personal fitness trainer.
In interviews and testimony at Friday's hearing, four men said Monteilh appeared at the Islamic Center in September and said he wanted to convert. Mohammad Elsisy, a mosque volunteer who teaches Arabic, said Monteilh wanted to be called Farouk Monteilh and appeared eager to learn about Islam.
But earlier this year, Monteilh began shifting religious discussions to jihad, or holy war, talking about "operations" against U.S. military targets, and suggested that he had access to weapons, said Ashruf Zied. No weapons were seen, Zied said in an interview. "I said, 'Dude, stop right there, What are you talking about?' " said Zied, a software engineer who said that he was born in Ohio and that his father worked for NATO. "I was trying to steer the guy in the right direction. He was talking about something that's taboo."
Zied, who testified at the court hearing, said that he was frightened by Monteilh's rhetoric, and that it was the last discussion between the two. They used to socialize, but after that talk, Zied said, he changed his phone number so Monteilh could not contact him.
Former Islamic Center president Asim Khan testified that several worshipers felt threatened by Monteilh and that he talked about getting involved "in a 9/11-type operation." Some stopped attending mosque because of him, Khan said. "We're members of the American community, and it's our duty as Americans to make law enforcement aware of these activities," he testified.
In an interview, Elsisy recalled driving Monteilh and another Muslim to Friday prayers at King Fahd Mosque in Culver City. The three men discussed the war in Iraq. "It was a serious discussion. But when [Monteilh] asked if we knew of an operation because he was ready to help us, the conversation stopped," said Elsisy, an architect. Elsisy said he and the other man reported Monteilh's comments to mosque officials.
The Islamic Center of Irvine has had a contentious relationship with the FBI. Members believe the mosque is under surveillance, a charge that the agency had denied. J. Stephen Tidwell, FBI assistant director in Los Angeles, presided at a town hall meeting at the mosque in June 2006 and assured the community that there was no monitoring going on.
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He was talking about something that's taboo.
At least in front of us Infidels. Not "evil", "vile" or "sinful", just "taboo".
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"It was a serious discussion. But when [Monteilh] asked if we knew of an operation because he was ready to help us, the conversation stopped until we got out of the car and searched the kaffir for bugs"
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But when he started talking about jihad and dropped oblique references to violence, congregants contacted authorities.
That's what's supposed to happen. Perhaps they thought he was a spy or a provocateur, but they did the right thing this time. So long as the change in behaviour occurs, the self-censorship, the change in attitude can follow after.
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I heard on the radio newscast here yesterday that an iman at a local mosque had publicly stated (in English - unknown if he also knows Arabic) that they are Americans, they don't approve of this crap, and he personally would turn in to authorities anyone he heard of planning something illegal.
I know a number of muslims here, and they all like the American way of life and have no desire for the extremists to take over.
It appears decent nuslims are beginning to feel safe enough from the idiots - at least in some places - to speak up publicly. Hope it spreads.
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Ah yes, there are countless episodes through the centruies in the ME where Muslims were "good neighbors" and "responsible citizens" until they gained sufficient influence to take over.
Then it was total Sharia, decent meant death. These people are the Islamic pioneers of America. Get along with the "Indians" until someday we have enough power to put them on the reservation.
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With the US government and media themselves trying to empower radicals, it is little wonder moderates have been afraid to assert themselves.
They see the State Department sucking up to Soddy, the media selecting the tiny terrorist front CAIR as official spokes-gang for American Muslims, American professors preaching jihad in public classrooms, and they naturally have to wonder whether it is safe or profitable to speak out.
Were French anti-fascists likely to denounce the Nazis while Vichy was in charge?
At least 500 people were rushed to the hospital after they fell unconscious, allegedly due to the administration of faulty vaccines, in the flood-hit Regi locality of Peshawar on Saturday.
The patients had been administered the TAB vaccine by health workers to protect them from TB and cholera after floods. The Khyber Teaching Hospital (KTH) was flooded with women, children and elderly people complaining of fever after getting the vaccines. I received the vaccine at 11am and at 1pm, I fell unconscious. The next moment I found myself in a hospital bed, said Omar Khan, 45. Mehrunisa, 60 said she had got the vaccine at 10am and lost consciousness at 11pm.
Doctors said the problem was caused by panic. Dr Mosem Khan, executive district officer (EDO) for health, said the vaccine could cause drowsiness, skin rashes, low blood pressure and vomiting, but these symptoms were not reported, showing that the reaction to the vaccine was caused by mass panic. People in Regi made announcements on loudspeakers asking residents to avoid vaccination and to rush those who had already been vaccinated to hospital. They also held nine health workers hostage, including one doctor, two nurses, five technicians and one store-keeper.
We have suspended the ongoing anti-TB and cholera vaccination in the flood-hit areas across the province, said Health Minister Inayatullah Khan at an emergency press conference at the KTH.
The minister said that nine health workers involved in the vaccination campaign in Regi had been suspended and a committee had been formed to investigate the causes of the incident.
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mass panic in a Paki town of rubes? Unthinkable!
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