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2007-07-01 Britain
5th arrest in UK attacks
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Posted by Steve White 2007-07-01 09:38|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top
 File under: al-Qaeda in Britain 

#1 It would be interesting to know whether the people being interviewed say stuff like "Might be Asian," or "not from around here." In some cases you would think that the UK press would run into a non-PC person who might offer something like "my neighbors were quiet people from Lahore."
Posted by Super Hose 2007-07-01 11:31||   2007-07-01 11:31|| Front Page Top

#2 From Washington Post

Suspects Arrested in Connection With Glasgow Attack

Almost all terrorist plots carried out by Islamic extremists in the past five years in Britain have included investigative trails that led to Pakistan. With an estimated 1 million people of Pakistani descent living in Britain, and hundreds of thousands traveling each year between the two countries, it is particularly difficult to track those involved in plots hatched or guided by al-Qaeda forces based in Pakistan.
Posted by John Frum 2007-07-01 12:26||   2007-07-01 12:26|| Front Page Top

#3 Two, said to be a 26-year-old man and a 27-year-old woman, people were earlier seized in nearby Cheshire on the Glasgow-bound M6 highway.

I read something last night that the police had blocked the M6 near Cheshire, and these two were taken from one of the cars. So the police must have known exactly who they were looking for (unless the car had a gasoline-propane-and-nails set-up, too). Well done, British police!

John Frum, isn't it interesting how connections are suddenly being said aloud?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 12:30||   2007-07-01 12:30|| Front Page Top

#4 80 percent of the world's Muslims live in Asia - the Indian subcontinent and Indonesia/Malaysia.

65 percent of the world's Muslims live in the Indian subcontinent - India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Islam in the Indian subcontinent is unique... it is the only variant that developed as a non-majority religion.
It has a tremendous number of fatwas dealing with this.. how to live as a muslim surrounded by unclean kufr.
It has been obsessed for two and a half centuries with regaining the political and economic power it lost, first to the Marathas and the Sikhs, then finally to the British.

Because of this, it is the subcontinental traditions - and Islamism as developed by the Pakistani Maulana Maududi, who influenced the Egyptian Maulana Qutb, that are the example, the template, for Muslim communities in the West.

These two men (Qutb and Maududi) provide the ideology behind Islamo-Fascism. It was Maududi who fused the 7th century religion of Mohammed with modern European Fascism.

Many writers focus only on the Arabs and their 7th century imaginings, ignoring the actual majority Muslim culture with its own religious tradition.
They quote the Arab al-Wahab but not the equally influential Indian Muslim Shah Waliullah Dehlavi

Others focus on the Iranian mullahs especially the Ayatollah Khomeini. Ironically, Khomeini's grandfather Sayyid Mustafa al-Hindi migrated from Lucknow in India to Iran in the 19th century. Khomeini's ancestors were Imams for the Shia of North India and their religious traditions were formed and influenced by centuries of subcontinental experience.

The British have allowed the immigration of the one Muslim group (from the subcontinent) that traditionally existed as a minority and resists assimilation, one that seeks a separate political and economic space for itself, the one obsessed with regaining their traditional ruling status over the Dhimmis they so despise.
Posted by John Frum 2007-07-01 13:07||   2007-07-01 13:07|| Front Page Top

#5 I have a source who tells me that it looks like this was all run out of Scotland by non-Scots and that some of these may turn out to be non-Brit foreign nationals (ie. Pakis). The number one thing troubling the Met know is why these people were so bad at making the bombs and detonators. Looks like these perps have been setting this up for over 2 months but without expert knowledge. Weird.
Posted by Jack is Back!">Jack is Back!  2007-07-01 13:10||   2007-07-01 13:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Building on that thought, Jack is Back, could it be that the information from the online Jihad U. is somehow tainted?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 13:20||   2007-07-01 13:20|| Front Page Top

#7 you mean like: "light fuse/pull grenade pin. Hold for 10-15 seconds to make sure ignition is working....check again, don't disappoint Allan. Then throw"

even better if the instruction are in Chinglish
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-07-01 13:54||   2007-07-01 13:54|| Front Page Top

#8 Burn them.
Posted by Excalibur 2007-07-01 15:00||   2007-07-01 15:00|| Front Page Top

#9 Because of this, it is the subcontinental traditions - and Islamism as developed by the Pakistani Maulana Maududi, who influenced the Egyptian Maulana Qutb, that are the example, the template, for Muslim communities in the West.

These two men (Qutb and Maududi) provide the ideology behind Islamo-Fascism. It was Maududi who fused the 7th century religion of Mohammed with modern European Fascism.


How is it that this seems to escape the notice of so many politicians both here and abroad? It also merits consideration that a huge number of Muslims maintain a highly aggressive form of doctrine that shows zero promise of assimilation or integration. The implications of this are not at all heartening.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-07-01 15:04||   2007-07-01 15:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Thanks John, I saved #4.
Posted by RD 2007-07-01 16:22||   2007-07-01 16:22|| Front Page Top

#11 you mean like: "light fuse/pull grenade pin. Hold for 10-15 seconds to make sure ignition is working....check again, don't disappoint Allan. Then throw"

Exactly what I'd have written had I been an engineer, Frank. ;-) But also, "stir mixture in bathtub with your mother's favourite wooden spoon for precisely 23 full rotations, then pour in the ____, taking 14.5 seconds to do so. Slowly add the lavender bath salts, to cover the odor so the neighbors won't object..."

Instructions must be in Paklish, though. Chinglish doesn't have enough pronouns and commas, and won't be understandable to the ninth form drop-outs.
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 17:40||   2007-07-01 17:40|| Front Page Top

#12 lavendar bath salts? Where In Allah's name will the Professional JihadiĀ™ find soap, much less lavendar bath salts? LOL!!

TW - we need a cultural intervention...
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-07-01 17:48||   2007-07-01 17:48|| Front Page Top

#13 Don't be silly, Frank. The lavender bath salts are at the edge of the bathtub where Mom always keeps them, in the pretty cut glass jar. And since she's already going to be annoyed that our little wannabe jihadi ruined her favourite mixing spoon, it's not going to go any worse for him when she finds out he used up her favourite bath salts. But of course he doesn't have to worry about it since, by following so precisely the Jihadi U. instructions he downloaded from that secret website, he's going to die shortly in a fiery explosion that leads straight to Paradise, no worries, eh?
Posted by trailing wife 2007-07-01 18:18||   2007-07-01 18:18|| Front Page Top

#14 Of course. My bad. What was I thinking?
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2007-07-01 18:19||   2007-07-01 18:19|| Front Page Top

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