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2007-07-01 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Roswell aliens theory revived by deathbed confession
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Posted by lotp 2007-07-01 10:40|| || Front Page|| [5 views ]  Top

#1 Not sure why he'd lie on a death-bed confession (if it's real) except to gain inmortality amung the wing-nuts.

Fact is the American father of modern rocketry Goddard, had a scientific station outside of Roswell New Mexico in the late 40s. He died prior to the Roswell incident but the cold war and missiles and secrecy being a growing concern I imagine his work continued and the whole incident was a cover-up either to shake out a spy or to cover up a crashed rocket.
Posted by rjschwarz 2007-07-01 11:14||   2007-07-01 11:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Of course it was aliens. Ferengi, to be precise.
Posted by Mike 2007-07-01 11:24||   2007-07-01 11:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Dreth Bed Confessions? Sounds like a BushItler88 plot. And deth to Rumsfield et. al.
Posted by Shipman 2007-07-01 11:39||   2007-07-01 11:39|| Front Page Top

#4 #2: Of course it was aliens. Ferengi, to be precise.

I followed the link, that's hilarious.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2007-07-01 12:25||   2007-07-01 12:25|| Front Page Top

#5 Buzz Aldrin has been recently saying in the news that they saw UFOs on the missions to the moon. He also mentioned something about ships being seen on the moon.

hey i didn't make it up...google it
Posted by Snereck de Medici6366 2007-07-01 12:44||   2007-07-01 12:44|| Front Page Top

#6 No, you didn't make it up. Someone else made it up, and you just repeated it.

(Well, to be more accurate, someone else aggrassively misinterpreted what Aldrin said he saw, and more people took it from there and ran...)
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-07-01 13:02||   2007-07-01 13:02|| Front Page Top

#7 See here.
I just talked to Buzz Aldrin on the phone, and he notes that the quotations were taken out of context and did not convey the intended meaning. After the Apollo 11 crew verified that the object they were seeing was not the SIVB upper stage, which was about 6000 miles away at that time, they concluded that they were probably seeing one of the panels from the separation of the spacecraft from the upper stage. These panels were not tracked from Earth and were likely much closer to the Apollo spacecraft. They chose not to discuss this on the open communications channel since they were concerned that their comments might be misinterpreted (as they are being now). Apparently all of this discussion about the panels was cut from the broadcast interview, thus giving the impression that they had seen a UFO.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2007-07-01 13:07||   2007-07-01 13:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Sure, yeah. But what would

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist

have said if Aldrin told him Seven of Nine waved at him from a shuttlecraft?
Posted by Bobby 2007-07-01 13:47||   2007-07-01 13:47|| Front Page Top

#9 None of it is true!
Posted by Alpha-Centauri Bob 2007-07-01 14:45||   2007-07-01 14:45|| Front Page Top

#10 If Aldrin really did intend to reveal a UFO encounter, as the paid ufo proponent alleges in the original story about his remarks, would he not instantly come forward and contradict Morrison's version?

According to ufo proponents, Morrison would automatically lie because he is part of the system. Is Aldrin not also part of the system, a much more prominent part than Morrison ever thought about being?

What it comes down is that "he seems credible"* when someone says what ufologists want to hear, but he is part of the great 60 year long global conspiracy otherwise.

This whole subculture is about the manipulation of credibility; that is, of authority. It is a personal power cult and nothing else.
"Nobody can force to admit that I am not making sense, nyah nyah!."

*sacred mantra of the UFO movement.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-07-01 18:22||   2007-07-01 18:22|| Front Page Top

#11 As for this affidavit, where is (and was) it on file? Who came forward with it? When was it written? What is the proof of its authenticity? What was Haut's mental condition late in life?

The story is notably vague about these details.

A few years ago, I went to Roswell to interview surviving witnesses. All of them wanted money for their testimony, with the notable exception of the handful who were willing to say it was a hoax.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-07-01 18:32||   2007-07-01 18:32|| Front Page Top

#12 From George Carlin -

"Two-Minute Warning

Now, you might be wondering why I would even suggest that someone can affect the manner and style of his death. Well, it's because of a mysterious and little-known stage of dying, the two-minute warning. Most people are not aware of it, but it does exist. Just as in football, two minutes before you die you receive an audible warning: "Two minutes! Get your shit together!" And the reason most people don't know about it is because the only ones who hear it are dead two minutes later. They never get a chance to tell us.

But such a warning does exist, and I suggest that when it comes, you use your two minutes to entertain and go out big. If nothing else, deliver a two-minute speech. Pick a subject you feel passionate about, and just start talking. Begin low-key, but, with mounting passion, build to a rousing climax. Finally, in the last few seconds, scream at those around you, "If these words are not the truth, may God strike me dead!" He will. Then simply slump forward and fall to the floor. Believe me, from that moment on, people will pay more attention to you."

nuff said.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-07-01 18:52||   2007-07-01 18:52|| Front Page Top

#13 The term "death-bed confession" is certainly misleading in this context, since the story itself indicates that the statement was written and hidden away some time ago, to be brought forward after Haut's death.
Specifically this term assigns a lot more credibility (remember the mantra)to the statement than would otherwise be warranted.

How long ago was it written and who had possession of it during the interim?
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-07-01 19:00||   2007-07-01 19:00|| Front Page Top

#14 Haut was 4 years from his deathbed when he gave this statement. (The link is a ufo site). Note that the affidavit itself was first published last year.

It is also not true that Haut had little to say during his lifetime, a flat-out lie in fact.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2007-07-01 19:15||   2007-07-01 19:15|| Front Page Top

#15 This thread is just begging for an indecipherable post from Mr. Mendiola

:)
Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-07-01 19:23||   2007-07-01 19:23|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm still trying to comprehend DUTCH SCHULTZ'S deathbed confession...
Posted by borgboy2001 2007-07-01 20:19||   2007-07-01 20:19|| Front Page Top

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