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-Lurid Crime Tales-
DEA Raids Car Dealership with Alleged Ties to Terrorist Group Hezbollah
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 08:05 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [295 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Are the cars stolen and the titles cleaned? Are the drugs coming in from Mexican cartels. Where's the rest of the story?
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/19/2011 16:06 Comments || Top||


-Obits-
N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [301 views] Top|| File under:


Kim Jong Il dead
BBC report here. Formal BBC obit here.

AP link here.

All other stories filed under 'China - Japan - Koreas'.
Posted by: ryuge || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [1243 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Juche?
Posted by: 3dc || 12/19/2011 0:59 Comments || Top||

#2  I predict that these will set like hotcakes. Get yours now! (Via Dave Barry.)
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 12/19/2011 1:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Not WOT Ops - more background I would think.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/19/2011 1:40 Comments || Top||

#4  NHK has video video of the NK TV announcement here. There's an introduction and subtitles in English.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 12/19/2011 1:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Have a seat, said the Devil.
Mr Kim Jong Il, I suppose?
We may start with a tree bark diet for you, for preparation.
In ten million years, we'll see what's next.
As a bonus, your tree bark will already have been eaten once by your dad.
Posted by: European Conservative || 12/19/2011 4:19 Comments || Top||

#6  'heart attack'? Was the secondary cause a GSW?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/19/2011 4:33 Comments || Top||

#7 
Posted by: ryuge || 12/19/2011 5:39 Comments || Top||

#8  ...And the FoxNews story says he snuffed it on the train. Wondering if that's significant in any way.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 12/19/2011 5:41 Comments || Top||

#9  At times like these, I am reminded of the words of Moms Mabley:

"Can't you say anything good about the dead?"

"He's dead; that's good!"
Posted by: Mike || 12/19/2011 6:27 Comments || Top||

#10  Ding, dong the witch is dead!
Posted by: Spot || 12/19/2011 7:49 Comments || Top||

#11  I blame the Juche. The Juche conspiracy.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 7:53 Comments || Top||

#12  "stomach's roasting in a sea of fire, Jack Frost Death's got your nose..."

I love Kim Christmas songs
Posted by: Frank G || 12/19/2011 8:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Good riddance to the malignant little dwarf.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 12/19/2011 9:07 Comments || Top||

#14  They're crying because they are so hungry because he's so tiny. In a nation that hungry there just won't be enough kim to go around.

Yes it's distasteful, but they simply must be fed.
Posted by: Flomosh Claviper5208 || 12/19/2011 9:33 Comments || Top||

#15  Sounds fake to me, like somebody said
"Stand at attention, now WEEP LIKE YOU MEAN IT",(But don't break ranks)
Good riddance
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 12/19/2011 9:50 Comments || Top||

#16  You have to understand that Pyongyang is only for the cream-of-the-party. Those who are absolute loyal and dedicated to the Kimmies. The real kimmie-worshipers. They get food and some support.
Saw a national Geographic once where a group of surgeons went there to perform eye surgeries on about 1000 people. To a man the people did not thank the surgeon or nurse or organization - not at all -- but they gave profuse thanks to Kim. These people are seriously disturbed.
Good riddance. Perhaps he'll spend eterenty in his own prison camp.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/19/2011 10:07 Comments || Top||

#17  Classic Stockholm Syndrome...hail the one who gave you bread and water in captivity.
Posted by: jack salami || 12/19/2011 11:09 Comments || Top||

#18  ...And the FoxNews story says he snuffed it on the train. Wondering if that's significant in any way.

Stalin liked trains. Plus you gotta figure the roads in North Korea aren't all that great being as how nobody can afford a car. And if you were Kimmie, would you trust your airplane mechanics?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/19/2011 11:26 Comments || Top||

#19  They blubbered when Stalin kicked it, too.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 13:42 Comments || Top||

#20  Then they got over it. Fast. Khrushchev did, that's for sure...
Posted by: Steve White || 12/19/2011 14:47 Comments || Top||

#21  From what I've read, can't remember where, there were people who sincerely believed that Stalin was a god. He'd been in power for so long there must have been a lot of them who couldn't remember any other boss. They lined up for blocks to see him lying in state because they wanted to see the dead god. Maybe they'll pay the same tribute to Kimmie.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/19/2011 15:33 Comments || Top||

#22  Guarantee they'll have huge long lines if they give away a bowl of soup after you view Jong Il's remains.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/19/2011 15:35 Comments || Top||

#23  So Kim Jong is not just ill, he's dead?
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/19/2011 15:50 Comments || Top||

#24  A friend was teaching in South Korean when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide. There were long lines of South Koreans mourning his passing. There was much wailing and many tears. It seems to be a Korean thing.
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/19/2011 15:57 Comments || Top||

#25  Saw a national Geographic once where a group of surgeons went there to perform eye surgeries on about 1000 people. To a man the people did not thank the surgeon or nurse or organization - not at all -- but they gave profuse thanks to Kim. These people are seriously disturbed.

Not necessarily. Non-zero odds that Kim said he had spent mucho dinero getting Western experts to heal the sick.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/19/2011 22:13 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Biden: 'The Taliban Per Se Is Not Our Enemy'
Posted by: Uloger Angomong9443 || 12/19/2011 15:37 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [487 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Joe the lawyer says "per se" like a pro.
Posted by: Muggsy Glink || 12/19/2011 18:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I see Uncle Joe is still an idiot, per se.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 12/19/2011 19:05 Comments || Top||

#3  An insult to the families of our young men and women who sacrificed their lives on the battle field fighting these barbarians. Joe, if you are not against them, you are for them.
Posted by: wr || 12/19/2011 19:23 Comments || Top||

#4  'the Republicans are...'
Posted by: Joe Biden || 12/19/2011 19:41 Comments || Top||

#5  On September 20th 2001 President Bush announced to a joint session of congress that the Taliban would "share in (the terrorist's) fate."

Sec Rumsfeld told a reporter questioning the use of cluster bombs in Afghanistan that "They're being used on frontline al-Qa'eda and Taliban troops to try to kill them."

However, in October of 2001, another senior member of the Bush administration told the Pakistani government that 'moderate Taliban' should wield political power in Afghanistan.

Biden is just echoing Colin Powell. The rot set in very early.
Posted by: Uloger Angomong9443 || 12/19/2011 19:56 Comments || Top||

#6  The Taliban are just the bastard militant offspring of daddy Saudi Arabia and mummy Pakistan. Last time I looked both were "allies" of the US.
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2011 20:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Biden: 'The Taliban Per Se Is Not Our Enemy'

..cause the real enemy is composed of the -

Real Republicans
Fox News
Tea Party
Fly Over Country
Gun Owners
Bible Thumpers

Well, at least for the crowd Biden runs with.
Posted by: P2Kontheroad || 12/19/2011 20:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Sure he didn't say Towely Ban?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 12/19/2011 21:02 Comments || Top||

#9  P2Kontheroad you forgot:

Real Americans
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/19/2011 21:17 Comments || Top||

#10  So what is Joe's schedule for saying stupid shit in public? About every two weeks?
Posted by: tu3031 || 12/19/2011 22:14 Comments || Top||


Taliban ready to open political office in an Islamic country
[Pak Daily Times] Taliban are willing to open an office in an Islamic country, a step towards holding face-to-face peace talks with Afghanistan, a member of the Afghan government's team of negotiators with the group said on Sunday.

After a series of failed attempt
Curses! Foiled again!
s at talks by Afghans and their Western allies, in November Afghanistan's Caped President Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai
... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtun face on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use...
ruled out negotiations with the Taliban until the bad turban group had an address at which he could contact them.

"What we heard from senior Taliban capos and their relatives, is they agreed on a political office," Arsala Rahmani, a senior member of Afghanistan's High Peace Council said on Sunday. "It would be better to establish one inside Afghanistan if the situation allows."

"We agree and have always called for a political address for the Taliban either in Qatar, Turkey, Soddy Arabia or any Islamic countries and it is in our interest," Rahmani said.

Last week, Afghanistan recalled its ambassador to Qatar hours after an Indian newspaper reported that arrangements had been put in place for a Taliban office in the Gulf state.

The report caused worry in Kabul that the Afghan government would be excluded from the grinding of the peace processor were another country used as a base for talks. The United States wants to seek a political settlement to an expensive, decade-long war, but Afghan officials insist that they must lead the process.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [303 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Africa North
How do brave Egyptian soldiers treat female protesters?
After being viciously beaten by the ten-strong mob, the woman lies helplessly on the ground as her shirt is ripped from her body and a man kicks her with full force in her exposed chest.
Some graphic stuff at the link. About what you'd expect from such a society so backward that it stripped all the casings off the pyramids to build Cairo rather than just go get their own. Time to start publishing the names and addresses of soldiers and their families.
Posted by: gorb || 12/19/2011 01:07 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [327 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They need some high powered rifles to take these thugs out.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/19/2011 1:44 Comments || Top||

#2  How else should good Muslims deal with shameless harlots?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/19/2011 1:45 Comments || Top||

#3  So how do they differ from OWS protesters?
I'm sure I'll get a slew of esoteric responses.
Posted by: bigjim-CA || 12/19/2011 13:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Soldiers behaving badly I have no doubt but...

I think the odds are greater than even that she would vote in the Muslim Brotherhood, cheerfully done a burka and enter the harem never to be seen again except by her owner.

Beats working for a living.
Posted by: kelly || 12/19/2011 14:07 Comments || Top||

#5  beats working for a living

Kelly, think that over. I will assume you didn't have your morning coffee.
Posted by: mom || 12/19/2011 14:52 Comments || Top||

#6  The one stomping her abdomen or chest is a female officer. Look at the hand and pants. Many deaths to come. This country is going to be another Lebanon.
Many young people out of work will either leave or fight somebody. I would suspect the wealthy are gone or will be.
Posted by: Dale || 12/19/2011 15:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Not Lebanon (sectarian/tribal warfare) Algeria.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/19/2011 15:18 Comments || Top||

#8  "Good Muslims" is an oxymoron, unless they're dead or killing each other
Posted by: Sonny Crack7741 || 12/19/2011 16:18 Comments || Top||

#9  "We have the whole night to rape your women and children, drink your blood. Even if you escape today, we'll come back tomorrow to finish you off! We're here to send you to your God!". Algeria
g(r)omgoru that is a mess. I hope not. You are closer to this than most. I believed the youth to be more western and a younger population. It will be difficult to bridal harness them. If not large numbers will be dead like Algeria.
Posted by: Dale || 12/19/2011 17:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Good Muslims" is an oxymoron, unless they're dead or killing each other

There a good people who are Muslims, Sonny Crack7741. Some of them are fighting on our side, some are advising us, and some are quietly turning in the worst among them.
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/19/2011 17:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Looks more like a kaftan or abaya, actually. Too much cloth for a 'shirt'.
Posted by: KBK || 12/19/2011 19:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Egyptians appear to ungovernable. Maybe time to bring back the Mamluks.
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2011 19:40 Comments || Top||

#13  The Mameluke were the military body guard of the Caliph much like the Janissary were for the Turks. Both the Mameluke and Janissary were institutions that anointed the successors to the head of state and disposed of them as well. It appears old patterns of human behavior are running true to form.
Posted by: P2Kontheroad || 12/19/2011 20:13 Comments || Top||


'Egypt junta is hijacking revolution'
[Iran Press TV] Egypt's Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) seeks to usurp power through its efforts to isolate revolutionary forces in the North African country, a political analyst tells Press TV.

The SCAF seeks to hijack the revolution and isolate "the independent political activists" in an attempt "to maintain discipline according to their views in the political playground; and maintain parliament and all the political forces to stay on the same line which the SCAF wants - not what the real revolutionary forces want in the streets," said Mohammad Fawaz from the April 6th Youth Movement in Cairo on Saturday.

"The revolutionary powers, as I used to say, are the most important "pain" for the SCAF and for the new government to deal with," he added.

Over 10 protesters have been killed and hundreds of others have been maimed in the new wave of festivities in Egypt since Thursday evening after the police beat up a young man participating in a sit-in protest outside the cabinet building.

The protesters had camped outside the cabinet offices since late November to prevent Egypt's Prime Minister Kamal al-Ganzouri from entering.

Ganzouri, who is a former prime minister of the regime of ex-dictator Hosni Mubarak
...The former President-for-Life of Egypt, dumped by popular demand in early 2011...
, was appointed to the post once again by the incumbent military rulers.

Fawaz said the SCAF cannot usurp the revolution and put an end to the political movements in Egypt by resorting to violence and bloodshed.

Egyptian protesters want the SCAF, which took over power in Egypt after the February revolution, to hand over power to a civilian government.

Protesters say the SCAF practices the decades-long, ruthless methods of the regime of Mubarak.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [308 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I remember the same thing happening in Algeria.
A freely elected government that was, just a tad, too Islamic for the Army. 10 years of civil war. 100000 casulties.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/19/2011 1:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Coming to a pyramid near you.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/19/2011 13:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, actually, people this is good news. If they have civil war, they can't have a war with Israel.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 12/19/2011 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  If they have civil war, they can't have a war with Israel

In the interim.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/19/2011 16:12 Comments || Top||


Arabia
TV propaganda and cultural war between Gulf States & Iran
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 12/19/2011 04:38 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [426 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See also DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > SAUDI KING [Abdullah] CALLS FOR GULF UNION.

OTOH DPF BLOGGER = opined that the GCC 'as is" is prolly the best kind of organized entity the KSA can hope for given the historical pro-independence mindset of GCC Member-States.

------------

* WORLD NEWS > ISRAEL, US: WE WILL STOP IRAN.

versus

* CHINA DAILY FORUM > RUSSIA TO STOP ANY ATTACK ON IRAN: PRESS TV.

See VARIOUS TOPIX NEWS ARTICS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 21:03 Comments || Top||

#2  D *** NG IT, HOW CAN AMERICA = AMERIKA WIN THE WAR ITS TRYING HARD TO LOSE!
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 21:04 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Dupe entry: KCNA reports its version of Kimmie's death
Pyongyang, December 19 (KCNA) -- Leader Kim Jong Il had received medical treatment for his cardiac and cerebrovascular diseases for a long period.

He suffered an advanced acute myocardial infarction, complicated with a serious heart shock, on train on December 17, Juche 100 (2011) for a great mental and physical strain caused by his uninterrupted field guidance tour for the building of a thriving nation.

Every possible first-aid measure was taken immediately but he passed away at 08:30 on December 17.

An autopsy on December 18 fully confirmed the diagnosis of his diseases.
"He's dead, Jim. Deader than a doornail. Can't get no deader."
Posted by: gromky || 12/19/2011 02:10 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [305 views] Top|| File under:


Dear Leader Dead?
The Beeb sez Nork TV announced it.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [294 views] Top|| File under:


Norks, U.S. may delay bilateral talks following Kim's death
SEOUL, Dec. 19 (Yonhap) -- North Korea and the United States are highly likely to delay bilateral nuclear talks set for this week in Beijing, following the report of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il's death, a senior Seoul official said Monday.

"In the wake of the North Korean leader Kim's death, it would be difficult for the two sides to hold the talks in Beijing this week," the official at Seoul's foreign ministry said on the condition of anonymity.
We need to see if Sonny Boy really will be in charge or whether an ambitious general mounts a challenge.
Pyongyang and Washington are set to hold the third round of meetings on Thursday in Beijing to discuss ways to resume the long-stalled six-nation talks on the North's nuclear weapons program.

North Korea's state media announced at noon on Monday that the 69-year-old Kim died on Saturday.

South Korea's foreign ministry has immediately put all of its overseas missions on an "emergency response" status since Kim's death, officials said. First Vice Foreign Minister Park Suk-hwan was holding an emergency meeting to discuss Seoul's diplomatic responses following Kim's death, they said.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [480 views] Top|| File under:

#1  May delay? Any talks is pointless until we know for sure who's going to survive the bloodbath.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/19/2011 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  What is there to talk about?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/19/2011 13:02 Comments || Top||

#3  I mean, really, tell them to surrender or FOAD.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 12/19/2011 13:03 Comments || Top||

#4  NEWSMAX > {Ex-House INTEL CHair Pete H.] HOEKSTRA: NORTH KOREA IS UNPREDICTABLE, BELLIGERENT, + could potentially remain so despite the passing of Kim Jong-il.

ARTIC > HOEKSTRA = denotes that ...
> US INTEL'S record of prediction + forecast has been very poor oer the last 10-15 years.

IOW, THE US KNOWS LITTLE TO ANYTHING RELIABLE AS PER THE INNER WORKINGS NORTH OF KIMMIE + REGIME.

> It may take JONG-UN 1-3 years to effectively consolidate his power + control over the Pyongyang Govt.
> Externally, i.e. as a matter of DPRK foreign policythe new JOng-Un Regime may attempt NEW REGIONAL, INTERNATIONAL PROVOCATION TO SHOW THAT IT IS "SOMEONE TO BE FEARED", espec to enhance Jong-un's personal credibility as NOKOR's de facto Leader.

versus

* SAME > NORTH KOREAN DICTATOR'S DEATH SUSPICIOUS TO EXPERTS | SUSPICIONS RISE [in DPRK] OVER CAUSE OF NOTH KOREAN DICTATOR'S DEATH [Jong-Il].

* BIG NEWS NETWORK > NORTH KOREA, IN TRANSITION [post-Kimmie] COULD FURTHER WITHDRAW INTO ITS SHELL, i.e. become MORE HARDLINE, MORE BELLIGERENT while also being MORE ISOLATIONIST.

* TOPIX > POST-KIM JONG-IL NORTH KOREA: WORST-CASE SCENARIOS.

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ABOVE > ONE XPERT = opined that Kim Jong-Un's Uncle JANG SONG TAEK [married to Kimmie's powerful sister = Jong-Un's Aunt] may need to be closely monitored by the US-Allies as he will likely be the ACTUAL RULER of North Korea for a time as Kim Jong-Un's = "Little Kim"s Regent while the latter "learns on the job".

Yuh Oh.

[SHAKESPEARE'S KING RICHARD II + WEIRDLY + MYSTERIOUSLY "LOST/MISSING PRINCES" here].

D *** NG IT, WHAT DOES US INTEL-PYWAR THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN - A MADONNA FAN FROM GUAM HAVE VISIONS OF KIM JONG-IL'S DEATH BY LIQUID ON A TRAIN???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 23:02 Comments || Top||


Kimmie to be planted Dec 28th
Mourning to run to December 29th. The North Koreans must get over things quickly don't they.

So long, you murderous, malignant, evil poofy-haired dwarf.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [291 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hopefully his son will join him soon.
Posted by: gorb || 12/19/2011 0:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Imagine having to move to Siberia to make your life better.
Posted by: newc || 12/19/2011 1:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Not WOT Ops - more background I would think.
Posted by: OldSpook || 12/19/2011 1:39 Comments || Top||

#4  All the talking heads are saying this wont lead to instability. So it probably will.
Posted by: phil_b || 12/19/2011 1:56 Comments || Top||

#5  http://koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=2945764&cloc=joongangdaily|home|top

It looks like the Norks weren't as prepared for Kim Dorks death as they could have been. I guess it was a tad dangerous to talk about it.
Posted by: Vortigern Hupoluse1541 || 12/19/2011 5:15 Comments || Top||

#6  link
Posted by: Vortigern Hupoluse1541 || 12/19/2011 5:16 Comments || Top||

#7  I hope they try to cremate him. The flare-up will be caught by satellites
Posted by: Frank G || 12/19/2011 8:14 Comments || Top||

#8  You forgot to link your URL to a word, Vortigem Hupoluse1541. It's fixed now -- a good find. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/19/2011 9:07 Comments || Top||

#9  HEY!!!!! I'm giving a party that day, now I have a theme!!!!!

Hi ho the witch is dead.....
Posted by: AlanC || 12/19/2011 10:45 Comments || Top||

#10  Should go with the jumpsuit theme instead AlanC. Or a Disco theme, I get the feeling Kimmie was trying to live in that time anyway.
Posted by: Charles || 12/19/2011 14:21 Comments || Top||

#11  Thanks Charles but I was thinking more along the line or Chocolate Bark and Juche.
Posted by: AlanC || 12/19/2011 15:38 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Turkey to France: Block Genocide Bill, or Else
Ankara is continuing to ratchet up tensions with Paris over a proposed French law to criminalize denial of claims that Turkey's mass killings of Armenians before and during World War I constitute genocide.

Ankara, which rejects the charge of genocide and argues the widespread killings of its Armenian minority occurred during civil strife in which many Turks died as well, dispatched a high-level delegation of parliamentarians in a last-minute bid to lobby against the proposed law.

Historians say up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in World War I, and several countries recognize the killings as genocide. Under the proposed French legislation, denying the genocide would be punishable by up to one year in prison along with a $58,000 fine.

On Saturday, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan launched a stinging attack on France, saying that no historian or politician can see genocide in Turkish history, and that those who do want to see genocide should turn around and look at their own "dirty and bloody history."

Relations between Turkey and France are already tense in connection with French President Nicolas Sarkozy's strong opposition to Ankara's bid to join the European Union. Erdogan last week reportedly sent a letter to Sarkozy warning of dire consequences if the legislation passes.

Diplomatic correspondent Semih Idiz of the Turkish newspaper Milliyet warns such threats should be taken seriously.
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2011 21:03 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [473 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Erdogan may not be in any position to do anything about the bill as he battles reportedly abdomen Joe Dancer.
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2011 21:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I let slip with that Debka bit a few days ago, but it would be grand to get confirmation from someone else.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 21:41 Comments || Top||

#3  but it would be grand to get confirmation from someone else.
Maybe it's in the Bible.:)
Turkey's PM Erdogan Cancer. Has His Relationship Israel Cause This?
Posted by: tipper || 12/19/2011 21:50 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Pakistan PM rules out military intervention
[Dawn] Pakistain Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani
... Pakistain's erstwhile current prime minister, whose occasional feats of mental gymnastics can be awe-inspiring ...
denied a military intervention was imminent against his government over a secret memo that sought US help to prevent a supposed coup.
They usually say something like that just before the tanks roll out...
Wonder if the guy who whacked Morticia is still available...
Tensions between the army and government appear to have soared in recent days as intelligence chiefs demanded an inquiry into the scandal that threatens to implicate President Asif Ali President Ten Percent Zardari
... sticky-fingered husband of the late Benazir Bhutto ...
, who is abroad following an illness.

"There is no room for a martial law in Pakistain," Gilani said in a brief televised interaction with the media in Lahore, two days after he met army chief General Ashfaq Kayani
... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI...
in Islamabad.

Pakistain's military, which has staged four coups, remains the chief power-broker in the country.

But Gilani described the memo as a "non-issue" which was being blown up unnecessarily.

The scandal relates to a memo that sought US intervention to prevent a feared military coup in exchange for overhauling Pakistain's security leadership after US troops killed the late Osama bin Laden
... who has made the transition back to dust...
near the Pak capital on May 2.

The existence of the document came to light when American-Pak businessman Mansoor Ijaz wrote in the Financial Times that Zardari feared the military might overthrow his government.

Ijaz accused Pakistain's ambassador to Washington, a close aide of Zardari's, of crafting the memo with the president's support.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [300 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Tribal elders demand end to army operation
[Pak Daily Times] A representative 'Jirga' of tribal agencies 'FATA Grand Alliance' here on Sunday demanded of the government for making an end to the ongoing military operation in tribal areas besides initiating grinding of the peace processor through dialogue to restore normality in the affected areas.

The FATA Grand Alliance (FGA) meeting was held under the chairmanship of Hameed Ullah Jan Afridi MNA Khyber Agency. The representatives of students, teachers, lawyers, business community, attended the meeting. The participants of FGA unanimously passed the resolutions for giving FATA the status of separate province and demanded that immediate actions should be taken to resolve the grievances of tribal area.

The Jirga participants' suggested for effective FGA forum by taking up the issues of tribal areas with the concerned agencies to resolve the grievances of rustics. The participants representing different Tribal Agencies gave their suggestions. Talking to media, Afridi said that all the segments of society belonging to FATA gathered at the platform of FGA and raised their voice for peace and stability in their respective areas.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [304 views] Top|| File under: TTP


Nawaz vows to fight dictatorship
[Dawn] PML-N President Nawaz Sharif
... served two non-consecutive terms as prime minister, heads the Pakistain Moslem League (Nawaz). Noted for his spectacular corruption, the 1998 Pak nuclear test, border war with India, and for being tossed by General Musharraf...
on Sunday vowed that any move to establish dictatorship in the country will be resisted tooth and nail.

Political parties, he said, were an asset of the country and a symbol of national unity but dictators play the game of dividing them and creating parties of their choice to prolong rule.

Talking to members, assembly and office bearers drawing from various districts at his residence, he said, dictatorships have not only damaged the democratic process but also put national unity and solidarity at stake. He said his party would play its active role for making Pakistain a dignified, independent and prosperous country.

"We will again give the nation a Pakistain where ratio of progress is much more in the region, job opportunities for youth were increasing, there was conducive atmosphere of local and foreign investment, national unity and the people were satisfied and confident with regard to their future," he added.

Nawaz Sharif said that had the democratic process not hindered in 1999 and development projects of that era continued, Pakistain would have become an Asia Tiger today.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Iraq
Iraqi PM asks MPs to relieve deputy
[Iran Press TV] Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki
... Prime Minister of Iraq and the secretary-general of the Islamic Dawa Party....
has asked the parliament to relieve his deputy from his duties over alleged involvement in acts of violence.

The decision to sack Deputy Premier Saleh al-Mutlaq came on Saturday amid conflicting reports about a possible warrant for his arrest.

Mutlaq is reportedly accused of involvement in a spate of violence that has gripped the Iraqi capital in recent months.

The official is a member of the largely secular al-Iraqiya bloc, headed by former Prime Minister Iyad Allawi.
... Iraqi politician, interim Prime Minister prior to Iraq's 2005 legislative elections. A former Ba'athist, Allawi helped found the Iraqi National Accord, which today is an active political party. He survived liquidation attempts in 1978, in 2004, and on April 20, 2005. One of these days he won't...
The coalition had earlier in the day suspended its participation in parliament in protest at what it described as Maliki's efforts to monopolize decision-making.

Al-Iraqiya, which failed to secure the absolute majority needed for naming a new government despite winning the most seats in the March 7, 2010 elections, had been in a power-sharing deal with al-Maliki's State of Law Alliance.

The power-sharing deal came after an eight-month political deadlock, with an eventual agreement keeping Maliki in office for another term, with Jalal Talabani from the Kurdish alliance reinstated as president.
Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [331 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Speaking of Pakistan coups = mil interventions ..

Not quite sure how to spell PAKIRAQ???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 0:14 Comments || Top||

#2  After Bush had the war won, this azzwipe kenyan surrendered the country of Iraq over to Iran.
Very much just how Syria now controls Lebanon.
Posted by: Mikey Hunt || 12/19/2011 0:48 Comments || Top||

#3  Kenyan no, surrendered the victory, yes.
Posted by: Charles || 12/19/2011 14:14 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel's military plans to form a long-range strike command.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 08:08 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [459 views] Top|| File under:

#1  mods: My fat fingers hit the enter key again.

Headline: IsraelÂ’s military plans to form a long-range strike command.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 8:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Fixed. Go and sin no more, my son. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 12/19/2011 9:15 Comments || Top||

#3  I think this command will be less oriented to distance than distance over time and logistics. Extended force projection has some unique problems.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 13:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Moscow is essens warning the US-NATO it risks mil confrontation + interventionism vee Russia iff Israel uses one or more neighboring or regional states to strike Iran's NucProgs.

IMO Moscow is aLso read, ISRAEL CAN ONLY USE LR AIRPOWER + CONVENTIONAL BOMBS FOR ITS STRIKE AGZ IRAN.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 18:51 Comments || Top||

#5  And the Beat goes on ...

* TOPIX > FM: IRAN WRITES [complains] TO INTERNATIONAL BODIES [OIC, NAM, UNO = Ban Ki-Moon] ABOUT VIOLATIONS OF ITS AIRSPACE, by the US.

versus

* SAME > [USMC Gen. John Allen] US TROOPS "NOT LEAVING" AFGHANISTAN IN 2014: US OFFICIALS SAY, or even afterward.

GEN. ALLEN = argues that nothing in Lisbon Declaration for 2014 forbids an international mil presence in Afghanistan vee consent, includ troops wid military/combat capability; USAF to train the new Afghan Air Force thru 2016, POTUS BAMMER ADMIN HASALWAYS SAID THAT THE US = US, NATO? WILL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN AFTER 2014 AS PER SUPPORT, SECURITY OF THE KABUL = AFGHAN GOVT.

Yuuh Oh again - THAT SOUND YOU'RE HEARING IS MUQTADA SADR IN IRAQ, + HEZBOLLAH IN LEBANON, + QUDS FORCE + AFPAK HARD/BAD BOYZ YELLING "FOUL" AGZ THE BAMMER.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 12/19/2011 23:16 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Fiscal Problems for Hez b allah
from French intel to La Figaro then ynet
-... the civil uprising against President Bashar Assad in Syria has significantly reduced the flow of money to the Lebanese terror group.

- ...Iran has recently cut its financial aid to Hezbollah by 25% due in part to the international sanctions imposed on the Islamic Republic over its nuclear program.

- ... the terror group's investment manager had embezzled close to $1.6 billion.

- ... more bandwidth needed to watch pornography at Hezbollah HQ
(OK, that's not in article)
Posted by: Lord Garth || 12/19/2011 08:14 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [321 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Crime mobs are very sensitive to cash flow problems. Not meeting payroll for armed thugs is a quick way to lose your head, especially if the leaders are "livin' la buena vida."
Posted by: Anonymoose || 12/19/2011 13:11 Comments || Top||

#2  I wish them many more payroll problems. Embezzled $1.6 Bn? Wow, they have such problems in that part of the world too.
Posted by: JohnQC || 12/19/2011 16:01 Comments || Top||


Arab League 'Optimistic' Syria to Sign Observers Deal by Monday
[An Nahar] The Arab League
...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing...
is "optimistic" that by Monday Syria will sign a proposal to send an observer mission to the unrest-hit country, the Omani minister responsible for foreign affairs said Sunday, as Qatar's premier said "we have received information stating that he (Syrian Hereditary President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad)
The Scourge of Hama...
will sign the protocol."

"We'll see if it's true," Qatari Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassem al-Thani, who chairs an Arab League taskforce on Syria, added.

Sheikh Hamad said replacing Assad was not the vaporous Arab League's concern.

"Assad's resignation or changing the regime involves the people of Syria. What is most important is putting an end to violence and killing, releasing prisoners, and allowing media into the country to uncover the truth", he said.

"What's important is that he (Assad) reconciles with his people," said Sheikh Hamad.

Meanwhile,
...back at the Hubba Hubba Club, Nunzio had his hands full of angry bleached blonde...
Oman's Youssef bin Alawi told news hounds in Riyadh: "We are optimistic that Syria will join the Arab League and sign the protocol within the next 24 hours."

Syrian Foreign Minister Walid Muallem is due to hold a news conference on Monday on the crisis engulfing his country.

The 22-member Arab bloc has been trying to persuade Damascus
...Capital of the last overtly fascist regime in the world...
to accept observers to monitor the situation as part of a plan to end the bloodshed.

On November 27, the Arab bloc approved a raft of sanctions against Syria for failing to heed an ultimatum to admit observers.

Earlier this month Syria finally said it would allow the mission, but laid down a number of conditions, including the lifting of sanctions.

Alawi said the Arab League will meet on Wednesday to discuss Syria.

"If it doesn't sign we will take decisions," he added without elaborating.

Sheikh Hamad said on Saturday that the meeting will be held in Cairo and accused Damascus of stalling on the Arab League proposal.

He warned that the League would take Syria to the U.N. Security Council if it persisted in refusing to admit observers to monitor the protection of civilians.

Posted by: Fred || 12/19/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought pencil neck promised to sign it last week?

So it's in his in box just waiting for him to get back from dinner?
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 12/19/2011 12:33 Comments || Top||



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