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2011-12-19 Home Front: Culture Wars
EPA Wants To Go 'Full Sauron' Over America
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Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-19 10:20|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [616 views ]  Top

#1 This is sort of mind boggling. From the historical point of view, it is like they are referencing everything from German Nazism and Italian fascism, to Soviet and even Chinese dialectic.

"Little Red Book"? Are they kidding? WTF is wrong with these people?
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-12-19 10:29||   2011-12-19 10:29|| Front Page Top

#2 This agency has to be killed and soon. Killed and a stake driven through its facist little heart. Then tear down its headquarters and salt the earth it sat on.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-19 10:33||   2011-12-19 10:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Sadly the existing law as amended (original NEPA act was signed by Nixon), has a lot of Utopian and authoritarian language. Although abolishing the act and the agency is politically impossible, it wouldn't be too difficult to put some 'brakes' on the authority of the agency.

"little red book" type policies by Administrator Jackson give Congress a good incentive to get this done

Posted by Lord Garth 2011-12-19 10:42||   2011-12-19 10:42|| Front Page Top

#4 Now you know how Obama will bypass congress.
Posted by DarthVader 2011-12-19 11:07||   2011-12-19 11:07|| Front Page Top

#5  Although abolishing the act and the agency is politically impossible Why not?
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-12-19 12:01||   2011-12-19 12:01|| Front Page Top

#6 Just cut the funding.

AND cut the power and the internet connections, take their GSA cars and padlock the loading docks.

They will eventually go home when they get cold and hungry.

I just worry they might all flock to Californicate like a swarm of locust and take roost there to continue their nutty Gia, Earth First, World Liberation, Greenpeace idiocy.
Posted by Bill Clinton 2011-12-19 12:46||   2011-12-19 12:46|| Front Page Top

#7 How many Divisions does the EPA command again?

(Of course under Obama - they just might have more than a few...)
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-19 12:51||   2011-12-19 12:51|| Front Page Top

#8 The EPA was created for a reason, industry cannot be trusted to be good stewards of the environment. It has morphed into a beast and needs to be limited to its original purpose, it has experienced mission creep.
Posted by bigjim-CA 2011-12-19 13:53||   2011-12-19 13:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Yeah - Vampires start as real people too - but nevertheless they have to be put down hard.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-19 14:22||   2011-12-19 14:22|| Front Page Top

#10 As William Buckley said, every organization that does not start out avowedly right wing always becomes left wing over time. The EPA has been captured by the progressives and has gone full Stockholm syndrome.

The EPA could stand to lose half to two-thirds of its budget and personnel; that would get it back to monitoring industry the way bigjim-CA notes.
Posted by Steve White 2011-12-19 14:39||   2011-12-19 14:39|| Front Page Top

#11 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-12-19 15:41||   2011-12-19 15:41|| Front Page Top

#12 And amongst those charges that caused the revolution: He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
Posted by OldSpook 2011-12-19 15:43||   2011-12-19 15:43|| Front Page Top


Just cut the funding.
AND cut the power and the internet connections, take their GSA cars and padlock the loading docks.
They will eventually go home when they get cold and hungry.

The EPA regional offices throughout the United States are officed in swank, very expensive digs like this high rise office building in Dallas. Government goons who make up the Socialist elite "are to be pampered", to be treated a class above the nativee. They are to get the highest pay, the best threads, the fanciest restaurant like the 4 star ones at street level of this Dallas high rise where they occupy 1 to 2 floors at least with the finest view of the skyline.

Much like communist East Europe where fast lanes were disgnated for use strictly by party officials, the same encentive package is being applied by the Obama adminstration to his brown shirts.

You think this is extravagant for the regional EPA in Dallas, you should see the crib for the TSA in Dallas - and the Federal Reserve...
Posted by Chetch Unomoth2003 2011-12-19 17:15||   2011-12-19 17:15|| Front Page Top

#14 Statism gone rampant! What bigjim-CA said. Also get rid of the ideologues who people EPA; the people who make a religion of radical environmentalism. Better to replace them with the hard science types; people who follow some real scientific process rather than a pseudo process where the data is made up to support a political view.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-12-19 18:02||   2011-12-19 18:02|| Front Page Top

#15 Not to defend the current EPA, but bigjim-CA is right. Fifty years ago, pollution was rampant. I went to college in Cleveland, where the Cuyahoga River was so polluted it caught fire.
Admittedly, many of these problems were "solved" when the factories were closed, and the jobs moved overseas.
The problem, as many have stated, is mission creep. As the original problems were solved, the regulators looked around for other things to regulate. Thus, they have decided that CO2 is a pollutant that must be regulated. Dust from farms is a pollutant that must be regulated. And on and on.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2011-12-19 20:25||   2011-12-19 20:25|| Front Page Top

Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-19 21:13||   2011-12-19 21:13|| Front Page Top

#17 Why stop going pre-Space Govt-Order "Full Sauron" wid only America???



The Global is strong wid the Sauron!
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-19 21:20||   2011-12-19 21:20|| Front Page Top

#18 Not saying that we don't need an agency to protect the environment. I just think that the EPA - this EPA as it is now - is too cancerous with politics and psuedo-scientist and career political advocates (I won't call them environmentalist - deep down they care as much for the environment as NOW cares about women - which is zip.
Might be easier (and cheaper) to simply shoot this one and start another.
Posted by CrazyFool 2011-12-19 21:30||   2011-12-19 21:30|| Front Page Top

#19 similar to our State Dept. Start from scratch
Posted by Frank G 2011-12-19 22:02||   2011-12-19 22:02|| Front Page Top

#20 Jerry Pournelle's "Iron Law of Bureaucracy" at work.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2011-12-19 23:47||   2011-12-19 23:47|| Front Page Top

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