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Soddies not interrogating Kuwait Bad Boyz
A reliable security source told Al-Anba no Saudi officials are taking part in the interrogations of the detained suspects. The source said Saudi officials are coordinating with their Kuwaiti counterparts in the investigations in accordance with the security accord between the two countries. The daily also said explosive experts safely removed a rocket propelled grenade (RPG) found in a yard near Kuwait Entertainment City in Doha. A security source told the daily the ordnance might belong to the retreating Iraqi Army after Kuwait's Liberation in 1991. It added that the RPG may have been left in the yard by someone who feared being arrested with it in his possession.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 11:30:25 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...please add> bottle of acid..blow torch
Posted by: therapist || 01/22/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

Yemen to try 26 Al Qaeda suspects
Yemen will soon put on trial 826 extremists, including 26 suspected members of the Al Qaeda terror network, a judicial source said on Friday. The trials, to start after the current Muslim festival of Eid al-Adha, will involve "26 suspected Al Qaeda members, including two extradited by Saudi Arabia and one by Kuwait late last year," the source told AFP, requesting anonymity.

The suspects "have links with those accused of bombing the (French supertanker) Limburg (in October 2002) and with other terrorist attacks which took place in Yemen over the past two years," the source said. The 800 other suspects, who will be tried "in batches," are members of the Faithful Youth organization, which was headed by a Yemeni rebel preacher killed by the army last September, according to the same source. The Yemeni government announced last September that the army had killed Sheikh Hussein Badr Eddin al-Huthi, nearly three months after he started a rebellion in the country's mountainous northwest, near the border with Saudi Arabia, triggering clashes which left more than 400 people dead.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:37:02 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The 800 other suspects, who will be tried “in batches,” are members of the Faithful Youth organization, which was headed by a Yemeni rebel preacher killed by the army last September, according to the same source.

Lol! Since these Yemeni Boy Scouts were rebelling against the Yemenis, they'll get whacked - no revolving door without heavyweight repentance.

Now the 26 AlQ types, well, the "judge" will prolly find something untoward in how they were arrested, handled, the charges, or the time of day. It's a complex matter, and only Yemeni Jurisprudence Experts can fathom it.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 16:41 Comments || Top||

Muslim group targets poster nudity
Activists are getting bolder in a campaign of vandalising adverts that display naked flesh. Billboard adverts featuring partial nudity are being defaced by Muslim activists who are offended by displays of flesh. The advertising watchdog has confirmed that increasing numbers of posters are being torn down or painted over in predominantly Islamic areas. A website giving advice on how to vandalise billboards and listing potential targets has been set up by a group calling themselves Muslims Against Advertising (MAAD).

The campaign has gathered momentum since the Advertising Standards Authority banned an underwear advert from being sited near mosques. Advertisements for perfume, hair dye, bras and television programmes are among those that have been attacked. Photographs of semi-dressed women are the most frequently targeted, with the offending body parts painted over or ripped off.
A poster advertising the Channel 4 programme Desperate Housewives is the most recent target; the images of two scantily-clad actresses have been torn from an East London billboard but three fully-dressed characters were left intact. Adverts bearing Dove's "Real Women" adverts — six ordinary women pictured in their underwear — were painted over at several locations last year.

MAAD, based in Birmingham, gives an index of defaced adverts in the city, including Levi's, Wonderbra, PaddyPower, a radio station and a strip club. It says on its website that it believes in "direct action" and "has paint and isn't afraid to use it", adding: "There is no longer any need to cringe as you walk past a sleazy poster, we'll improve it." Advice on how to attack posters is also given:

"The procedures outlined here are based on our six months' experience of executing poster attacks professionally, safely and without injury or arrest. A paint roller, a blithe spirit and a balmy night are all you really need. After choosing your board, be sure to inspect it both during the day and at night. Take note of all activities in the area. Who is about at 2am? How visible will you be? Bring a camera — it's a good cover for doing anything you're not supposed to. Check your escape routes. For work on larger boards we recommend walkie-talkies . . . the ground crew should monitor oncoming traffic and maintain radio contact with the lookout on the board."

The ASA told Triumph to remove its advert for Sloggi thongs from a billboard near a mosque in Bury, after complaints and a petition. One Muslim reportedly complained that it was "insulting" and constituted "environmental pollution". An advert for hair dye, which showed a woman peering into her bikini bottoms, was painted over by Muslims in Luton. A spokesman said the poster would be "extremely offensive" to a Muslim man if he passed it on his way to prayers.

Another Luton billboard for Marks & Spencer, showing the back of a naked woman, was also defaced. And a poster in Bradford, featuring the tennis player Anna Kournikova modelling a sports bra, was covered with paint. An Advertising Standards Authority spokeswoman said:

"There do seem to be more incidents. It's a criminal offence and private property is being defaced . . . it happens in a lot of Muslim areas such as Luton, Bradford, Glasgow and Birmingham. We encourage people to contact us and make their complaints known, then we can go through the proper channels in getting an advert taken down if it's offensive. One area we're concerned about is causing religious offence — the use of religious imagery and also being sensitive to location. If something is offensive in a particular area then the company will normally take it down. We're getting more and more complaints about the inappropriate location of adverts, outside schools or places of worship."

A spokesman for the Muslim Council of Britain said the ASA's code of practice made it clear that companies should be sensitive to the location of certain adverts. He said: "We don't condone posters being defaced and would always encourage Muslims to raise their concerns with the ASA, so that it is made aware of the strength of feeling. Defacing adverts is akin to hooliganism." A spokesman for the Metropolitan Police said: "Defacing a poster is a criminal offence but would be dealt with by us only if someone was caught in the act."


# PlayStation 2 computer game, America's 10 Most Wanted, showed a photo of Osama bin Laden next to the words "Go Get 'Em"

# Elida Faberge hair dye pictured a woman looking inside her bikini bottoms and the words: "Keeps hair colour so long you'll forget your natural one"

# Lastminute.com advert showed a photo of a woman's breasts sprinkled with sand as she lay in dunes and the words "enjoy every lastminute.com". Complaint upheld this week by ASA

# Vodka poster depicting a semi-naked woman was sited near a Bolton mosque. Muslim leaders said the siting was "insensitive"

# Publicity posters for the BBC television programme Babyfather, which showed four naked men standing under a shower with their backs to the camera, were daubed with red paint
Posted by: kam || 01/22/2005 7:34:37 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [271 views] Top|| File under:

#1  PlayStation 2 computer game, America’s 10 Most Wanted, showed a photo of Osama bin Laden next to the words “Go Get ‘Em”

Was he naked in it? Or what really offended them about it?
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/22/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Yet another convergence point between the loony left and the islamofascists. Andrea Dworkin would be proud
Posted by: lex || 01/22/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  What are they going to do when they start on Amsterdam? How about the Red District? The sex shops? Marijuana Houses? Muslims have a lot of work to do there. What stupid people these Muslims are!
Posted by: TMH || 01/22/2005 10:02 Comments || Top||

#4  The obvious solution is to hire thugs to attack the vandals. A group of businessmen on a street take out a little "insurance" with the local toughs, sort of as private security guards. If properly done, the toughs act like beat cops, except whenever any troublemaker starts something, they mosey him into a dark alley and beat seven bells out of him. It takes remarkably little of this before the vandals know which neighborhoods *not* to create trouble in. It also radically lowers other types of crime and generally improves the quality of life for the residents. To spread the message, the businessmen can actually put out "bait" posters, to draw in the first few suckers when their enforcers are rarin' to go.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 12:22 Comments || Top||

#5  This is why God made Claymore mines.
Posted by: Charlie don`t surf || 01/22/2005 12:27 Comments || Top||

#6  #4 'Moose----Trolling for Vandals....heh heh
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#7  These guys aren't going to stop until everything is done their way. Makes me wonder why the phuque they bothered to leave their home countries in the first damned place.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/22/2005 17:05 Comments || Top||

#8  BaR - To "fix" all those poor broken and demented folks who haven't seen the light, methinks.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 17:11 Comments || Top||

N. Korea tells US lawmaker it has atom bombs: report
Make up yer goddamned mind!
A top North Korean official has told US legislators that the communist state possessed nuclear weapons, Radio Free Asia reported on Friday. North Korea's Vice Foreign Minister Kim Kye-gwan said the country was a nuclear weapons state but its nuclear arsenal was defensive in nature and Pyongyang did not intend to possess it forever, Radio Free Asia quoted US Rep. Curt Weldon as saying. Weldon, Republican of Pennsylvania, led a six-member congressional delegation to North Korea last week and met with its senior officials. North Korea aimed to denuclearise itself and it was willing to move toward that end in a transparent manner, Weldon quoted the North's Foreign Minister Paek Nam-sun as saying. "The president of the country said that he foresaw the day when America and North Korea would be friends," Weldon was quoted as telling a forum in Washington last week about his meeting with the North's number-two official and president of its assembly, Kim Yong-nam.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:28:29 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [276 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I have a feeling the Norks are shooting for a junta government, that leaves their current leaders, with one notable exception, in power. Their serious, and not neccessarily unreasonable, assumption would be that the Skors would gleefully hang most of them from lightpoles. So they would probably prefer to evolve an increasingly close relationship with China, minus that one irritant, and again, evolve a more Chinese-style open market. Right now, Chinese consumer goods are achingly close to Norkland, and their leaders are itching to try out a Big Mac and a pair of Gucci loafers, once you-know-who is wearing concrete galoshes.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Pyongyang did not intend to possess it forever

Oh, don't worry. Like it or not, they won't...
Posted by: tu3031 || 01/22/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  I have a feeling the Norks are shooting for a junta government, that leaves their current leaders, with one notable exception, in power.

Hmmmm... like it, answers a lot of questions.
Posted by: Shipman || 01/22/2005 10:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Look at us! Look at me, MOMMY!

I have something I'm not supposed to have.

Nyah, nyah, nyah!
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/22/2005 10:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Somebody drop leaflets stating the person(s) to kill Kimmy will be provided with free steaks for the rest of their lives. Or better yet, just offer them Micheal Moores grocery list for one month.
Posted by: Charles || 01/22/2005 11:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Every time I see a headline about North Korea a smile starts to form. Then I click the link, and yes, there's my favorite graphic of Kimmy.
Posted by: nada || 01/22/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh yeah, the fabulists feeding the credulous. Good use of taxpayer money.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Can't your see I'm very very busy!? Hans Blix you stupid muzah fuckah!
Posted by: Dear Leader || 01/22/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

Down Under
Few Iraqis in Aust register to vote
A poor turnout by Iraqi expatriates enrolling to vote in the Iraqi election has prompted organisers to extend the registration period. In Australia only 6,500 expatriates have registered to vote from and estimated 50,000 people.
Too busy on the beach.
Head of the program, Bernie Hogan says they will extend the registration period, which was to end tomorrow, for a further two days. "It's been a worldwide trend that there has been a disappointing lack of people registering in Australia and throughout the other 14 countries that are involved in the program," he said. "We've been reviewing that and trying to understand why and the message that keeps coming back to us is that it's a mixture of apathy and apprehension." "The apprehension comes form those people who are distrustful of any Government in Iraq, considering that they have had decade and decade of tyranny and abuse, that some people do not want to freely and willingly submit their name to any potential future government that may then victimise them." There are nine registration venues across Sydney, Melbourne and Shepparton in regional Victoria. Iraqis in other states and territories have complained that there are no registration venues in their vicinity.
Posted by: God Save The World || 01/22/2005 1:42:05 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [272 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Most of those who were allowed to go abroad during Saddam's three decade reign were, of course, Sunnis and Ba'athists - precisely those least sympathetic to a free Iraq and an election that will forever seal the end of Sunni / Ba'athist control. Additionally, one has to wonder how many Iraqis abroad are actually illegals. These two factors would certainly put something of a dent in the registration process.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 2:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I have heard that about 20 buses full of Iraqis are on a road trip from Seattle to the nearest poll in San Francisco. I also imagine Detroit has a heavy turnout. Remember that you must register, then vote a week later, a major burden if you live far away.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 11:43 Comments || Top||

#3  San Diego has a large Chaldean population, which have to drive to Irvine (OC) to vote
Posted by: Frank G || 01/22/2005 11:55 Comments || Top||

Thief's death fans Dutch race tensions
Several hundred people, including many Moroccans, marched on Friday from the site in an immigrant neighbourhood in Amsterdam where the 19-year-old died on Monday. The woman whose bag he stole drove her car into his moped, crushing him against a tree. The friends and family of the youth, named by the media as Ali al-Bajjati, say his death was a racially motivated murder. Two months ago, filmmaker Theo van Gogh was killed in the same district, allegedly by a 26-year-old Dutch-Moroccan. The story has been front-page news all week in the Netherlands, home to about one million Muslims, more than a quarter of Moroccan descent. De Telegraaf daily said on Friday it was the man's own fault.
Ummm... Yeah. Sure sounds that way, doesn't it? Unless you're a Moose limb, of course...
Geert Wilders, an anti-immigration politician whose popularity has soared since Van Gogh was murdered, called for the government to strip criminals with dual citizenship of their Dutch nationality. "Arresting the woman makes the victim the criminal and the criminal a victim. It's turning the world on its head," he said.
Sure is...
Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende was forced on Friday to defend Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, who said the woman had not committed murder and the death would never have happened if the youth had not stolen the bag.
That's pretty much Q.E.D. But the important issue is that van Gogh was brutally murdered in an overtly racist act by a Moose limb a couple months ago. Attention spans have by now drifted off to other subjects, like the latest girly sensation's bosom. Arabs and Moose limbs can now feel free to hop up and down and make faces and holler about how oppressed they are, and the Dutch guilt feelings should be kicking in any time now...
A placard reading "Verdonk, murderess" was placed at the site of the death. Van Gogh's murder on 2 November triggered a series of attacks on mosques and churches and a wave of death threats against politicians, including Verdonk and Wilders, shattering the Netherlands' reputation for tolerance. The woman, who prosecutors want to charge for manslaughter, was released on Thursday pending further investigations.
Just quietly drop the case and tell the holy men to piss off.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 00:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [460 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The woman whose bag he stole drove her car into his moped, crushing him against a tree.

I confess I actually laughed out loud when I read this. So I'm a heartless sumbitch. Boo-'effing-hoo. If you don't go around stealing handbags, you don't find yourself in these situations.
Posted by: SteveS || 01/22/2005 0:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Typical liberal/european you may not defend your property at all thinking. She sould have drivin over him repeatedly for all the grief she will get. He was the cause of his own death. Robbery and theft is so common in Europe that the majority is not even reported. Police don't even bother to try and track down the property let alone the criminals. One of the reasons that Europes crime rate is so low. Most of it goes unreported.

Europeans do not understand the right to defend ones property at all. They act as if doing so makes you the criminal not the thief or robber ( this is robbery not theft.) So here is to you Europe and your wonderful justice systems FOAD.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/22/2005 0:52 Comments || Top||

Someone ought to cut the hands off the corpse, since he was a thief.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 0:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe that's what she was trying to do, but the rest of his body got in the way.
Posted by: Dishman || 01/22/2005 2:02 Comments || Top||

#5  I've a perfect defense for the woman.
"I was so upset by the suffereing of the Palestinian people, I got stoned to relax and wasn't watching there I'm driving."
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:53 Comments || Top||

#6  God Bless her, a european with the stones to fight back against these bastards...
and sticking his ass to a tree, priceless!
Posted by: Big Sarge || 01/22/2005 9:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Clearly they need car control in Holland. This "cars don't kill, drivers do." nonsense is just propaganda from the AAA.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/22/2005 9:34 Comments || Top||

#8  Damn sticky gas pedal...gotta get that fixed.
Posted by: The Dutch Lady || 01/22/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||

#9  She had a superelectromagnet in her purse, which inadvertedly pulled the car directly into him. They should sue the Magnet companies.
Posted by: Charles || 01/22/2005 11:47 Comments || Top||

#10  maybe it was an Audi?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/22/2005 11:57 Comments || Top||

#11  All venting aside. (Oh, how I'm gonna pay for this), she should at least be charged with manslaughter as anyone in the US would....then given 100 hours of community service and let go.
Posted by: 98zulu || 01/22/2005 12:36 Comments || Top||

#12  Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende was forced on Friday to defend Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk, who said the woman had not committed murder and the death would never have happened if the youth had not stolen the bag.

Is anybody as stunned as I am to hear this sort of common sense out of a Dutch politician?

The woman, who prosecutors want to charge for manslaughter, was released on Thursday pending further investigations.

And what measures are the authorities taking to ensure she doesn't end up next week laying on the curb with her head on her lap?

Final thought for mister moozie criminal: You got run over... by a GIRL!
Posted by: BH || 01/22/2005 12:38 Comments || Top||

#13  Maybe this is why women aren't allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia. Are they allowed to drive in Iran? If this gets around in Islamic countries where women are allowed to drive it might give them ideas.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/22/2005 13:22 Comments || Top||

#14  The only good reason to have a HumVee.

I notice the woman is Immigration Minister. Wonder if this will have any effect on the immigration policy & enforcement there?
Posted by: SC88 || 01/22/2005 21:15 Comments || Top||

#15  Maybe she shoud get a marksmanship medal.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 23:05 Comments || Top||

Arab journalists demand more Press freedom
Calling for more Press freedom for a balanced and non-partisan media, senior Arab journalists have cautioned governments against taking them lightly. "Arab societies have to admit that they are influenced only by the superficial things in the civil societies of the West, not by more substantial developments there, Ahmed Abdul Aziz Al Jarallah, Editor-in-Chief of As Siyassah newspaper, Kuwait, told your favourite No. 1 newspaper on the sidelines of a recent conference on "Arab Media in the Information Age."

"There is a lot of talk in this part of the world about the values of freedom, democracy and political and economic reforms," the outspoken Jarallah said. "Nevertheless, they are just words, since the values we speak about are Western and do not exist in our culture. If we compare the conditions of our societies with those of Western societies, we often cannot claim that we have democracy or democrats or elected governments. Democracy in the Arab world is still only nominal. Freedom is very limited and most Arab governments have come to power in other ways than general elections. To conclude, the Arab media as a product of civil society is non-existent."

He said that even though this assessment cannot be generalised for the whole Arab media, it is substantially true for most. "We need a long time to be able to remove the impact of Arab governments on the media." Hazim Saghiya, Editor and columnist of Al Hayyat, said that the association of Arab capitalism with a political regime has in many cases blocked any investment in a free, independent and market-oriented Press. "At the same time, the decline in the middle classes of the Arab countries has deprived the Press of the ability to survive and expand in order to influence the shaping of the public opinion in these countries." Saghiya added that the absence of an independent sphere had narrowed the freedom of action of the Press.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:20:51 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [276 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The lasting impact of Bush's words cannot be underestimated. Let the naysayers of democracy and freedom prattle on and give Bush's words all the negative publicity they want. No such thing as negative publicity - as I always say - this discussion's on a roll
Posted by: 2b || 01/22/2005 10:17 Comments || Top||

Iran 'forced' Afghans to go home
The United Nations refugee chief says thousands of Afghans may have been forced to return to Afghanistan because of Iran's policies.
The UN High Commissioner for Refugees has been increasingly concerned that Iranian officials are pressurizing Afghan refugees to go home.
There have been radio campaigns informing them that they have to leave.
Rudd Lubbers told the BBC that such actions went too far, saying thousands may have been forcibly returned.
He said that the UN refugee agency did not want its agreement on voluntary repatriation to be interpreted as being instrumental in deportation.
There have been reports of round-ups, or of people being denied extensions of their residence documents and then being denied access to public services, or even being arrested, for having no documents.
The high commissioner, who has just returned from a visit to the region, said there were indications that some Afghan refugees as well as illegal Afghan migrants, were being pushed out of Iran.
He said the UNHCR wanted more intensive discussions with Tehran before extending their current voluntary repatriation agreement.
"When we had a return last year of 380,000 [people from Iran] certainly not all was forced, no. The large majority was voluntary," he told the BBC.
"But when there are, let's say, 5% of them forced, it's 5% too much - we are talking almost 20,000 people. Therefore, I confirm that we are talking of a problem of at least thousands if not ten of thousands," he added.
Tehran has denied forcing legitimate Afghan refugees home, but says it has arrested many illegal Afghan workers.
Mr Lubbers said voluntary repatriation to Afghanistan should continue at the current rate for some time.
But he added that in the long-term, it would be useful if Iran, Pakistan and European countries hosting Afghans would also consider allowing some to remain as migrant workers.
The UNHCR, he said, was arranging a conference with European countries, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan next month to discuss this and other long-term solutions for Afghan refugees.
But then again, given a decade or so, Afghanistan will probably be prosperous enough so that Afghans won't want to leave home. With that much work, they might even start importing laborers.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 11:27:53 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [269 views] Top|| File under:

Khatami secures African backing during 7-nation tour
Iranian President Mohammad Khatami wrapped up a seven-nation tour of Africa in Uganda on Thursday after sealing a raft of cooperation deals that Teheran hopes will boost its influence on the continent.
"We like dealing with Africa. We can buy influence at about 9 cents a head. European influence costs us almost twice that much, though I'll admit it's better quality..."
Khatami won backing, or at least kind words, from leaders at each stop on his 10-day swing that ended here, where his visit was overshadowed by a new war of words with arch-foe the United States. In Kampala, Khatami was blunt in his criticism of the United States over the war in Iraq and recent hints that Washington may be considering the use of force to compel Teheran to change Middle East and nuclear policies. He warned that Iranians are "strong enough to defend ourselves" and said the American people could not possibly benefit from a war with Iran, especially as it still has its hands full in Iraq. "I think the United States would (be doing) a great job if they tried to put out the fire that has already been lit in Iraq," he said, adding that the US-led invasion had "created fertile ground to breed terrorists."
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:40:28 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [406 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's most comforting about this is that neither side will honor any aspect of any agreement or declaration.

I wonder WTF Khatami is doing on the road. He's powerless, toothless, inconsequential - ah, *slaps forehead* so that's why KhaleejTimes felt such affinity. Ok, now I get it.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 16:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Khatami can campaign as much as he wants to outside Iran, but the Government of the Islamic Republic pf Iran does not have the support of its own people. Students and educated people in the cities have been demonstrating for years against the government. It is ashame that CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and other Major news networks fail to report this or do in depth coverage on it...

As far as the United States taking military action...the US would win, but at a heavy price. The Iranian military is strong, unlike the Non-existent Afghan military and the degraded Iraqi Armed Forces (after 10+ years or embargos and 2 wars). Iran has reverse engineered components for US military equipment, made new purchases from Russia & China, and manufacture their own weaponry.

For Example:

The Iranian Air Force still operates the F-14A Tomcat and other jets & helicopters. During the 1970s (Shah's reign), the US built 2 Helicopter Factories (by Bell Textron), 1 Aircraft Factory (built by Northrop), 1 Major Aircraft Overhaul facility, and many more arms factories that are being used to overhaul, produce, and reverse engineer spares or whole new equipment.

An attack against Iran will unify everyone behind the government under the banner or Patriotism.

The only way to overthrow the government is to isolate economically and politically...and support the elements from within the country to change the government.

Iran is a major $$$ supporter ot terrorism outside its borders...because it is the only country in the world where religious fanatics control a resource rich economy and an entire nation.

It would serve the Iranian people, the Middle East, and the world to remove the government by means of internal revolution supported by democracies...see Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi's recent interview with the TELEGRAPH.
Posted by: Cromorong Choque7321 || 01/22/2005 23:58 Comments || Top||

Iran watchdog says women can run for presidency
"They wouldn't be allowed to win, of course, but they can run..."
Iran's legislative watchdog said on Saturday women could run in June's presidential election, clearing up an ambiguous article of the constitution. Iran's constitution says that candidates should be political "rejal", an Arabic word for men. But Gholamhossein Elham, spokesman for the conservative Guardian Council, said the word could also refer to women. "Women who have the necessary qualifications have the right to run in the presidential elections," he told state television. June's poll is expected to end Iran's reform movement, with conservatives tipped to extend their grasp on power to the presidency after taking control of parliament in May. Iran's 2003 Nobel laureate Shirin Ebadi has repeatedly said she has no intention of running for the presidency.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:26:08 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [284 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That should set some turbans spinning in SA.

If we weren't caught in the middle, watching the Sauds and Iranians go at each other would be fun.

A female Iranian president making the hajj. Head of State to the funerals.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/22/2005 11:41 Comments || Top||

#2  They *could* be approved to be candidates by the Guardian Council, if they were conservative enough. But Iranian women who are conservative enough know their place and wouldn't *want* to run for office. By asking to run for office, it would *prove* that they are not conservative enough.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 12:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Catch-23.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 12:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Flawless logic Anonymoose, therefore completely invalid in Iran.
Posted by: ed || 01/22/2005 12:48 Comments || Top||

Russia Defends Syria From US Terror Accusations
Russia said yesterday assertions by Washington that Syria had ties to terrorism could destabilize the Middle East. Moscow also again denied reports that it plans to sell missiles to Syria, whose President Bashar Assad is due to visit Russia next week. The reports have sparked concern in Israel, which says they could be launched against it. US Secretary of State-designate Condoleezza Rice warned Syria earlier this week that it faced new sanctions because of its suspected interference in Iraq and ties to terrorism. Russia's Foreign Ministry sprang to Syria's defense, calling the Arab state one of its "most important partners" in the Middle East. "It's well-known that slapping labels on countries and unilaterally describing certain states as part of the 'axis of evil' has not improved anyone's security," Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Yakovenko told Interfax news agency.
How well known is it, Alexander?
"Syria is one of the key players in the region and resumption of talks with Israel on the Syrian question is important in the context of the Middle East peace process," he said. Israeli and Russian media last week reported that Moscow wants to sell SA-18 shoulder-fired missiles and Iskander-E ground-to-ground missiles, which would bring most of Israel into Syria's range.
Syria's the backer of a number of terror groups, who've maintained headquarters in Damascus — now on and off, of course. But I don't think Baby Assad should worry too much, unless his backing of the Iraqi Bad Boyz pushes us over the edge. As a semi-colony of Iran, they're probably on the list after the ayatollahs. Of course, when the ayatollahs go, so do the Baathists in Syria, and probably without us having to dismantle them.
Yakovenko denied that but told Interfax that Russia's "wide-ranging" ties with Syria did include military cooperation. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov denied already last week that Moscow was in talks with Syria over arms sales.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 00:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [455 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! Here we go again. Worried about that precious Middle East "stability", lol! Hey Putty, it is the expressed policy of the United States to destabilize the dictatorships, thugocracies, and mullacracies of the Middle East. You need new interpreters, shithead. And, BTW, what you want means less and less every day as you tighten your stranglehold on Russia in an obvious backslide into totalitarian rule. In fact, asshole, it adds you to the list. HAND.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 1:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Business as usual.
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Russia always picks winners, heh. After the fall of the Soviet Union there was a golden chance for Russia to change, but gromgorru is right, it is again business as usual. And Russia will hang onto Iran's dirty business as long as it can, for some pieces of silver.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 23:14 Comments || Top||

Israel threatens 'unlimited' attacks against Lebanon
Israel has threatened "unlimited" military retaliation against Lebanon if Hizbullah attacks into the Shebaa Farms continue. Israel's powerful Security Cabinet, which includes senior members of the Israeli government including Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, warned it will order the army to take "serious military action" in Lebanon if Hizbullah attacks continued. Following the meeting, an Israeli official, who declined to be identified, said: "The military has no limitation to act if the situation deteriorates further."

Lebanon's Defense Minister Abdel Rahim Mrad was unavailable for comment. The warning comes at the same time as UN secretary general Kofi Annan issued a report which blamed Hizbullah for the increased tension along the southern border, but also warned Israel against its current policy of allowing military aircraft to fly over Lebanon. Annan's report comes in the wake two separate attacks launched by the resistance group into the Shebaa Farms in the last fortnight which led to the death of a UN peacekeeper. Presenting his report to the UN security council, Annan said: "The resumption of military measures, for which Hizbullah took credit, asserting its claimed prerogative to resist Israeli occupation of Lebanese territory by force, is disturbing." But he added: "If Israel carries on with its policy of flying over Lebanon whenever it sees fit, it risks provoking retaliatory acts from the Lebanese side." He added he was "greatly troubled by the disregard shown for the safety and security of the unarmed UN military observers." Annan recommended that the mandate of the UN Interim Forces in Lebanon (UNIFIL), which monitors all military activity on the border between Lebanon and Israel, be extended for six month, until July 31. Commenting on Israel's warning, Tyre MP Abdullah Qassir, who is also a member of Hizbullah Loyalty to the Resistance parliamentary bloc, said: "This is not the first time Israel has threatened Lebanon with military actions." He added: "As long as there are Lebanese territories under occupation, we will keep up our struggle. We are not intimidated by Israeli threats."
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 00:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [268 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dear Kofi: Chicken and egg. That's right, the Hizbullah fires missles at civilians and the Israeli flies over Lebanon to find the bad guys. Got that?
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 1:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Koffi, get used to being troubled --- yours are just starting.
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:29 Comments || Top||

Israel sees Cheney's remarks on Iran attack as warning to Europe
Israeli officials said on Friday U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's comments about a possible Israeli strike on Iran was a message to Europe to take a tougher stance against Tehran's nuclear program. The comments came as European leaders sought to diffuse tensions, stressing that diplomacy would remain the strategy pursued. Cheney said on Thursday in an interview that there was concern Israel might attack Iran if it "became convinced the Iranians had significant nuclear capability" due to Tehran's stated goal to destroy the Jewish state. Israeli officials said Cheney's remarks were not aimed at Israel but were intended as a message to Europe to take a harder line with Iran over its nuclear and missile programs. "It was intended to tell the Europeans: 'If you don't take a greater role in a policy of implementing sanctions and moving vigorously to stop Iran's nuclear program, then we are not responsible for what Israel will do'," a senior official said.

He added that Israel traditionally "followed the leadership of the U.S. regarding Iran" and supported international sanctions and pressure on Tehran to cease nuclear activities. "You look around the world at potential trouble spots, Iran is right at the top of the list," Cheney said Thursday in a radio interview, hours before he and Bush were sworn in to a second term. "We don't want a war in the Middle East if we can avoid it," Cheney added, "and certainly, in the case of the Iranian situation, I think everybody would best suited by, and or best treated or dealt with, if we could deal with it diplomatically."
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 00:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [380 views] Top|| File under:

What measurement is he indicating?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 1:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Old photo - I've had the same image since pre-campaign time period. I'd guess he's talking about Chirac.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 1:54 Comments || Top||

#3  More precisely, Cheney is squeezing the head of Chirac.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 4:20 Comments || Top||

#4  12"
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 4:41 Comments || Top||

#5  That measurement is why the French are so pessimistic. That is as big as it's ever going to be. Augmentation surgery is not covered under the French National Health plan.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/22/2005 7:12 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL SPoD!
Posted by: Shipman || 01/22/2005 10:30 Comments || Top||

#7  " That is as big as it's ever going to be. Augmentation surgery is not covered under the French National Health plan."

Walk lightly and carry a little stick .
Posted by: tex || 01/22/2005 10:35 Comments || Top||

#8  When Dick Cheney speaks, I suspect that it is so profoundly nuanced that there are little hidden messages to about have the world's governments in there. The world's strategic analysts are still pondering every word, hand gesture and facial expression made by Bush in his inaugural, pouring over transcripts, trying to figure out the *order* in which he shook people's hands, how close various individuals were allowed to stand near him, and why certain people had their pictures taken by the CSPAN-2 cameraman.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 11:53 Comments || Top||

#9  "I find your lack of faith disturbing."
Posted by: BH || 01/22/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||

#10  ..oh, bra-VO, BH!!!*ROTFLMAO*

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 01/22/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#11  This is a significant statement by the VP. To the Euros and to the Iranians - Beware you are tugging on Superman's cape.
Posted by: JP || 01/22/2005 21:54 Comments || Top||

#12  The Euros will jaw the Iranian nuke thing to death, Israel's death. The Euros will not care if Israel is oblitorated. They will wring their hands a bit and that's it. To Israel, Iran is stalling while the MMs crank up the nuclear program. This is life and death time for Israel.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 23:19 Comments || Top||

Terror Networks & Islam
An Imam Answers Moslems' Questions

Are making shadow puppets are prohibited? or simply playing with one's shadow as if it were a pretend person?

Playing with ones shadow is a futile act and prohibited.

What is sunnah way of wearing turban?

A turban may be worn with a Shimla (tail) or without a Shimla.

Are ornaments of animals such as dolphins or birds allowed in the house, like a vase, etc?

Picture frames and photographs of animate objects are not permissible to display. .... Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'The people with the most severe punishment by Allah will be the picture makers.' Hadhrat Ibn Abbas (RA) narrates, 'I heard the messenger of Allah saying, "Every picture-maker will be in the fire. A life will be created for every picture the picture-maker made, and he will be tortured in Hell."

What parts of an animate (tasweer) objects is one not allowed to draw. Does it only refer to the eyes or any part of the body. Also, why is it not permissible to draw animate(tasweer) objects.

The entire head cannot be drawn.

I wish to know whether it is permitted to draw faces? If there is an outline of a drawing (faces/animals faces)and you go over the outline, is it permitted?

We have not come across any specific ruling in this matter. Thus, the safest would be to regard such drawings as Haraam, as is the position with the drawings of all animate objects. However, if the head is totally removed, such drawings will be permissible.

I also have some nike products from before when i didnt know it was haraam to have them. However, these products do not have the word 'nike' on them, they only have the swoosh logo (which looks like a tick) is it permissible to use these products?

On account of the "tick" being a salient and distinguishing characteristic of "Nike" products, it would be necessary to remove it before wearing any of these products.

The keeping of statues in museums and other public places?

This is not permissible.

The keeping of statues as objects of worship confined in places of worship by non-muslim minorities?

This is permissible as long as it is not exposed to the public.

Did the Taliban go against Shariah by destroying images and statues in Afghanistan?

It was an Islamic duty for the Taliban to have destroyed the statues. This should have been carried out a long time ago.

Should/can I destroy a large idol of Buhdda that my world religions teacher has placed in my classroom?

The classroom does not belong to you and you do not enjoy control over it either. Hence, you are not responsible for what the teacher places within the confines of the classroom. You are not allowed to destroy the idol in this classroom. We suggest you very politely approach the teacher requesting him to remove or conceal this idol as it offends your religious sentiments.

Is it permissible to have photos and videos taken of the Jihad that is being fought in Chechnya and place it on the internet for keeping the Muslims informed.

Yes, it is permissible.

What if one muslim only believes in Allah and his messenger, regularly thinks about Allah, reads namaz, gives zakat, fasts, introduces others to Islam, always talks about Islam to non-muslims about how it is the one and only Religion and passes on Knowledge, influences others to stop doing bad but does not drink or smoke, or or backbite but listens to english or urdu music. Will he/she still have a bad punishment and enter hell? If yes what type of punishment is it?

Listening to Music is a sin. In principle, one should make Tawbah (repent) from the sin. If a person did not make Tawbah, if Allah wills, he will forgive the person or may punish the person. We have not come across any specific punishment on the day of Qiyaamat for the sin of listening to music.


I come from Indian background and the tradition there is not to cut nails/hair on Tuesdays and Sat? Is this tradition based on any Islamic priniciple ?

We have not come across any Shar'ee reference prohibiting the trimming of nails on Tuesdays and Saturdays.

Is there any "correct" way of cutting the nails ?? (Starting from the fore-finger etc.)

It has been mentioned that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) used to pair his nails on a Thursday, but no sequence has been mentioned. However, many pious people recommend that one should commence with the index finger of the right hand moving towards the small finger, thereafter the small finger of the left hand leading towards the thumb and finishing with the thumb of the right hand. The toe nails, from the small toe of the right leg and complete with the small toe of the left leg.

Can one shave above the lips and around the beard during the 10 days prior Eid?

Rasulullah is reported to have said "whoever intends offering Qurbaani should not cut his hair". In view of this Hadith, it is Mustahab (preferable) not to cut the hair and nails. However, this should not be regarded as Farz or Wajib. If one does not carry out this, he/she will not be sinful.

Is it permissible to cut one's nails at night time or is this a superstition I have heard that it is not permissible?

There is no prohibition for clipping nails at night.

i am 18, i am trying to grow a beard, but my mom thinks im too young and says i don't need to keep it. ... she doesnt like it. am i supposed to keep it anyway, or should i listen to her and shave it because it doesnt look good

For Muslim males to grow a beard is Waajib (compulsory), and to let it grow a fist length is Waajib. Without any Sharie reason to cut or shave is Haraam (totally prohibited). He who does so is a Faasiq (sinner) and to shorten it less than a fist length is Makruh Tahrimi (near Haraam).' You should not obey your mother's wish against the orders of Shari'ah. You should keep a beard and follow the Sunnah of our beloved Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).

I really want to grow a beard but am being pressurised not to by my elder brother, who is very un-islamic. Whenever I merely mention the fact of keeping a beard he bitterly argues with me. I have even thought of moving away from him because of this, but this isn't possible. What do you suggest?

The objection of your brother to keep a beard is not an exception. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'There is no obedience of a creation in the disobedience of the Creator.' We suggest you apply wisdom and diplomacy and start keeping a very small beard.

if you want to go to jihad do you have to get permisssion from your parents, please explain.

If Jihaad did not reach a situation of Fardh-e-Ayn, then one needs the permission of his parents require his service.

What is the difference between jinns and devils? Does everyone have a devil/jinn assigned to them? Are all devils locked up in Ramadan?

The Shaytaan who disobeyed Allah and refused to prostrate before Aadam [alayhis salaam] was a Jinn. He is also known as a devil. The Shaytaan has vowed to lead others astray. Those who are influenced by the Shaytaan are also Shaytaans. There are two views regarding the locking up of the Shaytaan during Ramadhan. One view is that all the Shayaateen big and small - are locked up. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said that every person has a Shaytaan with him who endervours to lead the person astray. Allah has also granted every individual the strength and ability to oppose and go against the endervours of Shaytaan.

Do jinns ever tell us what to do?

Allah Ta'ala tells us in the Qur'aan that He created Jinn and mankind to worship Him. Jinns are created from fire and have been granted strength and power. Jinns, like humans, are of two categories obedient and disobedient.

can human and jins can become friends is there any dua for this?

It is possible for humans and jinns to be friends. Unfortunately, we do not deal with befriending humans and jinns. However, if one is obedient to Allah, then even jinns respect and honour such a person.

Modernistic opinion is not to believe in Jinns. Please give valid proof for proving they a separate creation of Allah (swt)?

Jinns are a creation of Allah. He says in the Quran, 'And I have not created the jinns and man but that they worship Me'. .... Allah Ta'ala discusses the incident of the jinns bringing iman on Allah. Not being able to see jinns is not a proof of non-existence just as the existence of U.F.O. (unidentified flying object) cannot be outruled.

We have a very disturbing situation in our community. There is a person who claims that he has Jinnat in his control. .... Now many people have accepted him as a spiritual leader and go to him for their needs. .... He is getting money from them and if they stop going to him he creates wearisome and trouble for them. I believe this is causing a huge Shirk in the society.

The control of a Jinn does not indicate the religiousness of a person. It is possible for a person to control a Jinn. His unusual activities or miraculous feats does not make him a pious man. Yes, if he is a staunch adherent of the Sunnah, he is a pious man and the miraculous feats he performs are from Allah, otherwise they are from Shaytaan. .... If the people think that he is deceiving them, they should abstain from him and turn to Allah for assistance against the mischief of such miscreants.

I want to know about the dreams we see. I know dreams are from Allah. Can you tell us how to differentiate which dream is from Allah and which one from Shaitan.

In brief, dreams are of three types, i) Pious dreams, ii) Shaytaani dreams, and, iii) Reflections of the mind. Pious dreams are from Allah and Shaytaani dreams are from the Shaytaan. If one is unable to determine whether the dream is good or bad he should refer to an expert who understand the sciences of interpretations of dreams.

In my dream the quran shrunk, ayats erased and the pages were ripped to fit the new quran size. My best friend - Hindu died as a result.

It is important that you adhere to all the injunctions of the Quraan. It is not appropriate to act upon some and discard some. Therefore you should seek forgiveness and make a firm commitment to follow all the commands of Shariah and the Sunnah of Muhammed (Sallahu Alyahi Wasalam).


I have small "Cactus Tree's" in my garden, I am told that I should remove them immediately. The reason for this is the Jews will hide behind these tree's and therefore we should nor grow these trees.

It is not necessary to remove the cactus trees from your garden. The Hadith refers to a thorny tree that will assist the Jews. It does not specify which thorny tree.

I heard that there will be gold coming out of the river the Euphrates river, is this true?

Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) mentioned that among the signs of Qiyaamat, 'the Euphrates and Tigris will bring up pillars of Gold.' He also advised that people should stay away from that as people will fight for the gold and many people will be killed.

I live in a US City and a restaurant here gives all its profit for temple. Are we allowed to eat from there?

.. it is not appropriate to eat at the restaurant that is known to give its proceeds to a temple or any un Islamic avenue that is against Deen and Islam. It is because of our support, the forces of Kufr and Shirk will be helped. Their agenda is to destroy Islam and Deen. therefore eating at such a restaurant is assisting in their cause.

Could we sing national anthem and say the plegde of allegience to the secular state while the flag is being raised up? Our school children are forced to attend national school, and every morning they are forced to sing and make the pledge. Muslims religious ulamas in my country also have to make the pledge during national day. Is it a act of blapshemy?

As Muslims, our pledge of allegiance is only to Allah and His Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). However, as Muslims in a non-Muslim state, we are obliged to follow the laws of the country which are not contrary to Shari'ah. The allegiance of pledge by singing the national anthem of a secular state which has many un-Islamic laws, for example, legalising homosexuality, lesbianism, pornography, etc. is not permissible.

My company used to provide me for medical insurance as a benefit for me. .... They now pay 80% of the insurance premium and we pay the remaining 20%. Please Advice if I should stay in or opt out of the program? Is it ok to have comprehensive car insurance in north america or should one have minimum insurance required by law?

According to Shariah, it is not permissible to subscribe to a voluntarily Medical Aid scheme as it contains elements of Interest and Gambling. However, if it is a requirement of the company or the Government, you will be excused from subscribing to the scheme. You state you have an option to opt out, if so it is necessary for you to do so as you will be involved in a haraam transaction. If the car insurance is a government Law, you should subscribe to that plan that entails the minimum insurance.

I've heard that there'd be no Azab-ul-Khabr, for people who die of stomach ailment. Can I pray to die this way to escape the torment of the grave?

Rasulullah is reported to have said "A person who dies due to stomach ailment will be a Shaheed (martyr)". We have not come across a Hadith that shows he will be saved from the punishments of the grave.

how do we know the Quran is the word of Allah, and not the prophet's. I know they said he couldn't read or write, but what if he kept it a secret?

Allah Ta'ala says in the Noble Qur'aan, "And man is a big disputer'. In view of the disputant nature of man, it is advisable to apply wisdom and diplomacy in conveying the truth. Lack of wisdom and diplomacy in conveying the truth may have negative consequences, for example, branding truthful ones as causing Fitnah, etc.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 4:38:43 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [370 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ask a Holy Man(TM)! No need to think for yourself when they can do it for you! Call today!
Posted by: The Doctor || 01/22/2005 17:13 Comments || Top||

#2  "The people with the most severe punishment by Allah will be the picture makers."

Lol! Think Hollyweird is aware of this? I know what it's like to have zero artistic skill, I'm a mechanic, not an artiste', but Little Mo must've really been talentless, lol, not to mention the most petty asshole of all time.

This collection just boggles.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 17:21 Comments || Top||

#3  >I believe this is causing a huge Shirk in the society<

What the hell is a Shirk?

Posted by: Snoluck Thrusing8432 || 01/22/2005 17:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Jerry Shirk was a lineman for the Cleveland Browns. Hopes this helps?
Posted by: Frank G || 01/22/2005 18:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Why is Nike haram? And why hasn't Fred added commentary?
Posted by: Korora || 01/22/2005 18:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Why is Nike haram?

Probably due to this "Allah" issue. Nike caved with abject apologies all around, but they are still considered haram by Islamowhackos. Think corporations learned anything from this ? (Me neither)

why hasn't Fred added commentary?

Who do you think made up the "imam's" answers ?
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 01/22/2005 18:44 Comments || Top||

#7  He's at the Rantapalooza, playing Nanook of the North, I'd guess.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 18:44 Comments || Top||

#8  #6 And the "X" in the Ford Explorer logo resembles a cross according to the wise ones of the Magic Kingdom.
Posted by: GK || 01/22/2005 19:02 Comments || Top||

#9  No wonder these people are so difficult: "God" (excuse me, Allan) forbids playing with shadows and listening to music. God permits being friends with "jinns" and uploading videos of human misery (slaughter of human beings). This would be sad if they were not so doggone violent.
Posted by: Jonah || 01/22/2005 19:32 Comments || Top||

#10  Imam, do I wipe my ass with my left or right hand while eating?

Answer: According to Shariah, just don't confuse your napkin for toilet paper.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 20:29 Comments || Top||

#11  "Does everyone have a devil/jinn assigned to them?"

Ah, they've met my ex-wife, then.

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 01/22/2005 20:48 Comments || Top||

#12  SHIRK - Okay, I googled it and came up with this:
Shirk - Setting up partners in worship with Allah, swt

Why the Iman is down on shirking is confusing. Maybe he was a Bengals fan.

Posted by: Snoluck Thrusing8432 || 01/22/2005 22:32 Comments || Top||

Update: Iraq refuses to say if Zarqawi detained
JPost - Reg Req'd EFL - News
Iraq's interior minister on Saturday refused to comment on rumors that the top terror leader in the country had been taken into custody. "I wouldn't like to comment for the time being," Interior Minister Falah al-Naqib said when asked about rumors that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had been arrested. "Let's see. Maybe in the next few days we will make a comment about it." Pressing him, a reporter asked, "Does that mean he is in custody?" "No comment," the minister repeated.
I Can Say No More™
He's teasing us. Could it be they only have part of him in custody? Enquiring minds want to know. The Fat Lady is lubricating her lovely throat with gin, just on the off chance a performance is called for...
The rumors about al-Zarqawi followed an interview aired on an Arab television station earlier this month in which a Saudi man arrested for a deadly truck bombing claimed that he heard from other insurgents that al-Zarqawi had been arrested by Iraqi police in Fallujah but released because authorities didn't recognize him. Rumors spread that Iraqi authorities had al-Zarqawi in custody but were waiting to announce it just before the Jan. 30 elections. In an audiotape posted Thursday on the Web, a speaker who identified himself as al-Zarqawi called on his followers to prepare for a long struggle against the Americans and denounced Iraqi Shiites for fighting alongside US troops in last November's assault on the rebel stronghold of Fallujah.
hmmmmmm - I'm starting to get my hopes up
Posted by: Frank G || 01/22/2005 1:25:55 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [417 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's send Barbara Boxer over to question him! Though she wouldn't be as nasty with HIM as she was with Condi, just the sight and sound of that moron should scare the information out of him!

In fact she should stay in the came cell with him...you know, to, uh, ensure we don't mistreat him and all.
Posted by: Justrand || 01/22/2005 14:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmmm. When was the 48 hour rule invoked?
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 15:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Most interesting, considering the Thursday broadcast is possibly a fraud.


The voice tape broadcasted by Al-Jazeera TV claimed to be for Abo-Mosab Al-Zarbawi is actually fabricated.

It is not done by Al-Zarqawi but by one among his followers in Syria or in Jordan. It may have been done inside the studios of Al-Jazeera TV.

More terrorist attacks with at least 5 bobby-trapped cars in Baghdad killed more than 30 Iraqis and wounded others.

Insar Al-Sunnah beheaded Swedish and Belgium citizens in Iraq.

Ten days to go for election!
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 15:55 Comments || Top||

#4  "I wouldn’t like to comment for the time being," Interior Minister Falah al-Naqib said when asked about rumors that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had been arrested. "Let’s see. Maybe in the next few days we will make a comment about it."

The Minister wouldn't make remarks like these unless he actually believed the Z-man was in captivity. My hopes are up!

Wonder how they're going to ice the ugly f***er.
Posted by: Bulldog || 01/22/2005 17:05 Comments || Top||

#5  The Minister may have learned from the Americans that some times it pays to put something out just to see who starts buzzing. Doesn't need to be true, just titilating. Didn't we learn that from the Brits?
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/22/2005 17:10 Comments || Top||

#6  Please oh please let this be true.

I'd tell him Saddam snitched on him and then put him in Saddam's cell with a dull butterknife.

Most likely the first rumor is true - the one where he was not recognized and then released.
Posted by: JP || 01/22/2005 18:33 Comments || Top||

#7  The voice tape broadcasted by Al-Jazeera TV claimed to be for Abo-Mosab Al-Zarkawi is actually fabricated.

Yeah, the tipoff was when the voice on the tape said: "This is Al-Zarkawi, not some random Saudi Jihadist pretending to be Al-Zarkawi".
Posted by: AJackson || 01/22/2005 18:42 Comments || Top||

#8  The second tip-off was at the end it said "I'm John Kerry, and I approve of this message."
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 01/22/2005 22:07 Comments || Top||

#9  Question: Did John F'ng Kerry take his three Purple Hearts with him to Iraq?
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 22:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Seems standard operating procedure when any hot terror operative is nabbed to delay announcing it so as to continue to gather info on his cohorts' activities. I recall someone in the intel agencies saying something like a 6-week window between apprehension and announcement as standard. Perhaps Old Spook can enlighten us.
Posted by: lex || 01/22/2005 22:13 Comments || Top||

#11  It is common for Iraqi politicos to show a little leg before the main dish.

Have the fat lady down another case of brewsky, gobble down another Turkey leg, while there is still time.

Suggest the "Dance of Seven Veils" more appropriate at this juncture.
Posted by: Captain America || 01/22/2005 22:16 Comments || Top||

#12  Lex and CA are right I think, but Iraqi politicos also have a tendency to occasionally say something thats more or less spun from whole cloth, I think. The Interior Minister could just be playing too cute for his own good, as Mrs D implies.

Id hold to the 48 hour rule on this, and no Im not sure when to clock that from.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 01/22/2005 23:30 Comments || Top||

#13  Roger Simon says AP has picked this up.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 01/22/2005 23:59 Comments || Top||

Al Aqsa Martyrs ready for truce
A Palestinian resistance group linked to Mahmud Abbas' Fatah faction has announced it is ready to seek a ceasefire with Israel. The al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade said on Saturday it was prepared to halt attacks through a mutual ceasefire. This would come as a welcome boost for Abbas, who is seeking to persuade Israel of his ability to impose order in the territories. However, the group set a strict raft of conditions on agreeing to a ceasefire, including that Israel announces a cessation of military operations, a halt to its policy of targeted assassination of resistance fighters and releases Palestinian prisoners.

Meanwhile, Abbas was to meet members of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) in his latest bid to ensure the new hope for a renewal of the Middle East peace process is not thwarted by resistance attacks. Israel temporarily severed contacts with the Palestinian Authority a week ago in the aftermath of an attack at Karni which killed six Israelis, an event that cast a huge shadow over Abbas's inauguration ceremony seven days ago. However, contacts were resumed on the security level last Wednesday, leading to an agreement for around 2500 Palestinian security forces to be deployed across Gaza in a move welcomed by Israel and the international community.
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#1  free prisoners, huh?....mmmmm no
Posted by: Frank G || 01/22/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  A hudna and a recruiting drive - wow, they're starting to think. This could be a dangerous development. Should we call Sam McNeil?

I've been meaning to mention something, Sheriff...

If that isn't the dumbest picture ever, Fred, lol! Gives me precisely the wrong kind of willies - definitely not the kind they intended, heh. Perfection is damned rare, but you've served it up, lol!
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Okay, freeing prisonsers is not a problem, as long as what's sent back is a "freed" dead body.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/22/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#4  Sure guys - you all assemble in one place, radio in the coordinates, and the IDF will agree to peace, plus get you all dates (72 each).
Posted by: AJackson || 01/22/2005 18:44 Comments || Top||

Africa: Horn
Ethiopia-Eritrea: Troop Movements Near Border 'Provocative'
A senior Eritrean military official has dismissed guarantees that Ethiopian troop movements near their common border were purely defensive, according to the United Nations. Eritrean Col Zecarias Ogbagaber said he believed the troop deployment was "provocative", the UN peacekeeping mission in Ethiopia and Eritrea (UNMEE) said. Ogbagaber "expressed serious concerns about the movement of additional Ethiopian troops towards the northern border of Ethiopia", UNMEE said in a statement. "He said that he did not consider these deployments defensive in nature and interpreted them to be provocative," the statement added. Ogbagaber also "expressed the hope that with the beginning of a new year, there would be fresh impetus, which [would] help move the peace process forward".

Ethiopian Gen Yohannes Gebremeskel stressed "the redeployment of Ethiopian army troops along the Eritrean border was a purely defensive measure and part of the reorganisation process of the army". Ethiopia first announced in December it would redeploy troops near the border region, providing details to the UN peacekeeping force. UNMEE force commander, Maj-Gen Rajender Singh told the MCC that the military situation remained "stable and calm". Singh said he was "fairly satisfied" with the security situation and urged both countries not to take any steps that would jeopardise the situation. He also added that the "sanctity and the stability" of the 25-km demilitarised zone was being "maintained effectively" by the 3,800 UN peacekeepers.
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Afghanistan/South Asia
'36 tribal elders orchestrating rocket attacks'
Thirty-six tribal elders have been accused of orchestrating deadly rocket attacks against natural gas facilities in southwestern Pakistan that disrupted supplies to millions of people, police said. At least eight people, including three soldiers, were killed during the January 7-11 attacks, in which renegade tribesmen were suspected of firing hundreds of rockets, damaging a gas plant and pipeline at Sui in Balochistan province. Tribesmen on Thursday claimed the government had deployed tanks and army troops that were searching house-to-house in Sui.

An intelligence official in Quetta said troops rounded up dozens of tribesmen for questioning and seized weapons during the search, but the account could not be independently confirmed. Phone lines to the town were not operating and no government official was available for comment. Khalid Dogar, a senior police officer in the area, said police filed a case against 36 tribal elders, after the head of security at the state-run Sui Southern Gas company accused them of ordering the attacks on the company's facilities and inciting people against the state. The elders include a son and grandson of Nawab Akbar Bugti, the head of the Bugti tribe that dominates the area where the gas field — Pakistan's main source of natural gas — is located.
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#1  It's a symphony!
Posted by: 2b || 01/22/2005 10:47 Comments || Top||

#2  The Bugti guy in the pic isn't wearing a hat. Is this his norm? Or just another devious plot to undermine US Policy and evade detection? Is that County Fair ribbon for the best Bugti Pie Award? Is Foster Brooks involved? Are those Foster Grant frames? Is that a Rolex? Or a Seiko? Wheels within wheels. Really tiny ones.

*crickets chirping and other cricket stuff, rubbing various cricket parts against other cricket parts*

One thing is clear. The CIA has gone straight to shit. We don't know anywhere near enough. Tenet should be racked for this. Promote everyone who was not involved.

/channeling Ship

Posted by: .Ship || 01/22/2005 16:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's ask this flashing eyed toothy lad to talk, let's pincer the bastard!

/channelling Lucky
Posted by: Shipman || 01/22/2005 19:25 Comments || Top||

Sunni alienation grows as Iraq elections draw closer
Actually, I consider alienation a good sign. Eventually it leads to ennui, then to cafard, and eventually to a hose running from the exhaust pipe to the driver's side window. Perhaps we should buy some flowers in anticipation?
In the main hub of Iraq's Shia-dominated south, Sunni politicians work secluded in a heavily guarded compound on a street strewn with the wreckage of a recent suicide car bombing. The Iraqi Islamic Party's fortress-like headquarters reflect the plight of Saddam Hussein's Sunni minority, increasingly embattled in the countdown to January 30 elections that majority Shias embrace but most Sunnis are shunning. Bearded party leaders accuse US-led occupiers and Iraq's interim government of favouritism toward the Shias, who will cement their new-found hold on power after decades of oppression under Saddam. They also complain of growing intimidation by militias run by Shia religious parties and fledgling security forces filling their ranks with mostly Shia recruits — trends that are deepening the Sunnis' sense of alienation in the new Iraq.

Many Sunnis, who made up the backbone of the ruling class under Saddam, are boycotting Iraq's first multi-party elections in nearly half a century because of a raging Sunni insurgency they say will make a fair vote impossible. A low Sunni turnout could undermine the credibility of Iraq's new parliament and the constitution it will write. "The election is a farce and we won't participate," said Jamal Khazal Makki, the party's regional chief, in his ornate office as guards with AK-47 assault rifles stood watch outside. Basra, Iraq's second-largest city, so far has been spared the worst of the violence that has shaken Baghdad and the Sunni heartland north and west of the capital. But Sunni guerrillas are now escalating their campaign in the south, threatening coexistence in a city where Sunnis and Shias have long inter-married.
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#1  dial 1-800-Wah Waah

It's already clear that this is going to be the talking point for many. That there wasn't adequate Sunni participation so the elections aren't meaningful.
Posted by: 2b || 01/22/2005 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  It gives the MSM something to talk about that's negative. Wouldn't want to talk about the huge turnout or successful elections by brave Iraqi's...nope, nope...doom and gloom for all!
Posted by: 2b || 01/22/2005 10:09 Comments || Top||

#3  If they don't participate, then you must liquidate.
Posted by: Johnny Crocran || 01/22/2005 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Is anyone seeing parallels between the former Bathists and the former majority party in the U.S. (ie Democrats)? They don't trust people to make the 'right' ballots decision and are going to contest the validity of the vote as soon as it's finished. The violence prior to the elections is no worse than any other developing Democracy. Ever see a 'peaceful' Indian, Pakistani, Mexican, etc. election? Oposition parties being bombed, candidates killed, and voters hassled. Heck that's a NORMAL election in Mexico and I don't hear about the lack of validity of any Mexican election. Yes there will be people that can't or won't vote but it's not because we haven't tried and if there is 30-40% voter turnout that would be a HUGE success.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 01/22/2005 12:38 Comments || Top||

#5  If they think they are alienated now, wait till they meet their new Shite/Kurdish overlords.
Posted by: ed || 01/22/2005 12:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Somebody call a whaaaambulance.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 01/22/2005 13:25 Comments || Top||

Sunni alienation grows as Iraq elections draw closer
And the downside of this is....?

Hey, Sunnis, try thinking about the alienation of the rest of the Iraqis when you clowns thugs ran the country as your personal fiefdom and hell-hole.

Payback's a bitch. Get used to it. :-D
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 01/22/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#8  Like ed says...you Sunni a**holes....just wait til a Kurd-Shia dominated army, court, and legislature.

Signed...sealed...delivered...the Sunni's a** is theirs.
Posted by: anymouse || 01/22/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#9  The difference between the Sunnis and the Democrats is that the Democrats would keep counting the ballots until their 20% of the population gets 51% of the vote.
Posted by: RWV || 01/22/2005 20:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Many Sunnis, who made up the backbone of the ruling class under Saddam, are boycotting Iraq’s first multi-party elections in nearly half a century because of a raging Sunni insurgency they say will make a fair vote impossible.

So instead of doing what they can to discourage fellow Sunnis from going the insurgent route, they're going to boycott the election? Sorry, no sympathy here.

A low Sunni turnout could undermine the credibility of Iraq’s new parliament and the constitution it will write.

Err, no. The threat of a low Sunni turnout means nothing more than a temper tantrum, and should be ignored accordingly.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 01/22/2005 20:50 Comments || Top||

#11  Right, B-A-R. Someone is taking liberteeeees with the pen in order to further an agenda to discredit an election that is a start to get Iraq out of the hole that it is in. When you have been on top for 35 years on Sammy's coat-tails, taking the good jobs, the graft, and throwing a willing hand in on murders and torture (we are talking shredders, not undies on the noggin), people on the bottom will get their day in the sun. The Sunnis and ex Baathists better hope that they can exist peacefully without retribution for the crimes that were done.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 20:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Who said everyone needs to be getting along for an election to be legitimate.

In preparation for the post election questions regarding the legitimacy of the results let me remind the MSM that in the US in 1864, 11 confederate states did not participate in the election that resulted in Abraham Lincoln's second term.

Curious1 over and out.
Posted by: Curious1 || 01/22/2005 21:04 Comments || Top||

Africa: Horn
Jubilation as Garang arrives in south Sudan capital
Amid scenes of wild jubilation, the head of the former rebel Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM) arrived Saturday in the new provisional capital of southern Sudan for the first time since signing historic peace deal.
Several thousand people were packed into the town's Freedom Square to welcome John Garang on his return, while along the route dozens of bulls were offered to him as gifts by the population. Garang, set to be named as Sudan's new vice president,
... and then to be assassinated...
will install in Rumbek a transitional administration which will take charge of the region after the Khartoum government and his rebels signed a final peace accord in January in Kenya. The agreement ended Africa's longest-running civil war, which claimed the lives of 1.5 million people displaced four million more in 21 years of conflict between the Muslim-dominated government and the mainly Christian south. As Garang arrived at the town's landing strip, locals slaughtered a white bull in a traditional welcome and Garang, in line with the regional custom, stepped over the blood that spouted out onto the tarmac. Hundreds of supporters were at the airstrip as he landed, chanting slogans in favour of the peace deal and waving the multicoloured flag of the south as children danced to the music of drums and other traditional instruments.
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Israel may ease military operations; Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades could agree on truce
The latest steps in the intricate polonnaise that may end up being pureed in the Peace Processor™...
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:23:39 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [282 views] Top|| File under:

Africa: North
Egypt shuts down unauthorized Iraqi polling center
CAIRO, Egypt - Egypt has shut down an unauthorized polling station that Iraqi residents had set up in an attempt to take part in their country's first free elections in nearly 50 years, Iraqi activists said on Friday.

The activists said Egyptian security officials told them to leave the office in downtown Cairo from which they were running an unofficial registration campaign for Iraq's elections on Jan. 30. "They told us the office is illegal: either you close it or we will beat the snot out of you shut it down," an activist told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity. He said the officials did not give a reason, but they said the decision had been taken by "higher authority."
Setting a bad example, were they?
Egyptian government officials could not be reached for comment Friday, an Islamic holiday.

Egypt has an estimated 6,000 Iraqis, many of whom went into exile under the former dictator Saddam Hussein. But the Geneva-based body that is arranging polling for Iraqis abroad, the International Organization of Migration, has not included Egypt in the 14 countries where it is setting up voting facilities. Carried away with enthusiasm for the polls, a group of Iraqis in Egypt took over the office of the defunct Iraqi News Agency in Cairo and invited compatriots to register for the elections. They planned to turn the office, which fronts on to a main street, into a polling station complete with foreign monitors on Jan. 30 and send the results and ballots to the IOM polling center in Amman, Jordan.

"We want to prove the point that we want to vote," one of the Iraqis, Talib Murad, said earlier this week. "We want to tell everyone we just want the chance to vote." Dozens of Iraqis did register to vote, an activist said Friday.

Now that the government has told them to leave the office, the activists said they were thinking of distributing their unofficial ballots by hand or e-mail, and sending them to the IOM in Amman. However, the IOM has said it will not recognize any results coming from undesignated countries. But the activists are determined to go ahead whether their ballots are counted or not.
But the progressive Democrats have told us that the Middle East isn't ready for democracy!
Posted by: Steve White || 01/22/2005 2:09:58 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [258 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "viral democracy" at work.
Posted by: Dishman || 01/22/2005 3:09 Comments || Top||

#2  And Bush only made that speech yesterday. Amazing!
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 4:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Bush's inaguration address sent shockwaves around the planet, and is still reverberating in the halls of the newly nervous. It must be like knowing that there is a huge contract out on you by a Mafia Capo di tutti Capi--open to all takers.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 01/22/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

Hope to end the occupation by next al-Adha holiday
The Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas congratulated his fellow citizens on the fall of Eid al-Adha (holiday). He expressed in a statement to Journalists following Eid prayers in one of Gaza's mosques his hope that the Israeli occupation will be removed by the fall of Next al-Adha holiday" and peace will be established between the Palestinian and Israeli peoples.
Get those guys to stop exploding and that might happen...
Abbas also renewed his commitment to promises to serve the people and establish security "so as the Palestinian to enjoy peace and prosperity," asking for help to implement his obligations stated in the Roadmap. President Abbas continued his meetings with the Palestinian groups in Gaza to discuss the possibility of announcing the cease fire with Israel. He expressed his optimism that the rounds of dialogue will conclude in finalizing agreements and understandings before leaving Gaza.
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 12:16:49 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol! Pretty good - but don't give up your day job quite yet, heh.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 2:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh, a hudna. Got it.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 4:15 Comments || Top||

#3  "...and peace will be established between the Palestinian and Israeli peoples."

First you have to have Palestinian people.
Next you have to teach them the basics of Ethics.
Then you've to teach them to be self supporting economically.

Lets wait and see how the Iraqi experiment comes out.
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:48 Comments || Top||

Africa: Horn
Sudanese investigation discloses violations in Darfur, denies genocide
"No, no! Certainly not!"
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 12:16:00 AM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [265 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah, that settles that! No genocide here! Uh, BTW, what were those cutoff numbers, again, for genocide, slaughter, massacre, etc? I'm sure there are 10-20 pages in some EU manual on this.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 2:23 Comments || Top||

Africa: North
Moroccan King urges for a tolerant Islam
King Mohammed VI of Morocco has urged for a tolerant Islam that bans all forms of fanaticism, extremism and terrorism. In a message to the leaders of Islamic countries to congratulate them on Eid al-Adha (Feast of Sacrifice), the Moroccan monarch said this religious occasion encourages all Muslims to "highlight the image of the tolerant Islam that forbids all forms of fanaticism, extremism and terrorism."

It also encourages Muslims to keep in spirit the "values of sacrifice, brotherhood and equity" and to "renew their ties with our holy religion and its path that is based on moderation and tolerance." King Mohammed VI, president of Al-Quds Committee, also voiced in the message Morocco's constant support to the Palestinian authority and to its efforts to recover the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, and establish an independent State with Al-Quds (Jerusalem) as capital. The Moroccan monarch also expressed solidarity with the Islamic countries and all the countries hit by the Tsunami that left according to the latest toll over 200000 victims.
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#1  A day late and a dollar short.
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:09 Comments || Top||

#2  King Mohammed VI of Morocco has urged for a tolerant Islam that bans all forms of fanaticism, extremism and terrorism.

Now there is an ambitious wish list!
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 01/22/2005 23:25 Comments || Top||

Terror Networks & Islam
Arabs wary of Bush's 'freedom' speech
Al-Jizzles interviews the Muslim innalekshul in the street with predictable results...
George Bush's pledge to spread liberty around the globe has earned a frosty reception in the Arab world, with observers dismissing as hollow rhetoric his insistence on promoting freedom.
"Nope. Nope. We don't want none o' that stuff!"
On Friday analysts warned that the US president's ambition to promote democracy would only be regarded with suspicion in the Middle East so long as Iraq is plagued by violence after the US-led invasion.
"Yeah. Ain't nobody can be free until the U.S. is out of Iraq and the fascists can kill anybody they want again. Now that's freedom, by Gum!"
An Arab professor of political science drew parallels between the words of Bush and Usama bin Ladin, saying the president had made the word freedom banal in the same way as the al-Qaida leader had the word jihad. "The two men have both invoked their favourite concepts without ever putting them into practice," Assad Abu Khalil, who works in the United States, told Aljazeera.
Wouldn't it be nice if Arabs and Moose limbs swarmed to the banner of liberty the way the love to do to the banner of jihad? Wouldn't it be loverly if they rounded up those who opposed liberty and human dignity and chopped their heads off? Wouldn't it be wonderful if they blew up the mosques and the homes and the cars of those who want to grind their fellow men into the dust?

Simplistic solutions
He said Bush's notion of freedom as the solution is just as simplistic as the belief of Islamists that Islam is the solution in a region largely ruled by totalitarian regimes that reject religious extremism. "By wanting to explain all through freedom, Bush ends up explaining nothing. We need to see how the idea of liberty can be translated into effective policies," he said. "The export of democracy is in no way a military operation."
Sure it is, when it needs to be. Arabs and Moose limbs spend hours wailing about how the region is largely ruled by totalitarian regimes. Liberty is the exact, 180-degree opposite of totalitarianism. How can it not be the solution to the problem? And if oppressed peoples can't throw off the yoke of dictatorship, and we help them do it, what's wrong with that? We're doing you a favor, Assad, but you can't accept it as such. Instead, you leave your goat farm in the Olde Countrie and head off the the liberty of the U.S.A. to bitch.
In a speech marking his inauguration on Thursday to a second, four-year term, Bush said the United States would support the growth of democracy "with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world".
There go those totalitarian regimes that largely rule...
"We are led, by events and common sense, to one conclusion: The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands. The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."
That's because the part of the world that's largely ruled by totalitarian regimes or under attack by would-be totalitarian regimes wants to export its problems to the civilized world.
He did not name any countries specifically — not even Iraq - but Vice-President Dick Cheney told US media that Iran was "right at the top of the list" of trouble spots.
Kinda went without saying, since we're banging Bad Guyz there every day...

Critics say he has yet to put any real pressure on US-friendly Arab states to reform and Washington's support for Israel at the expense of the Palestinians has further shredded his credibility in Arab eyes.
Yeah, there's always Israel, isn't there? Can't have a free society in an area of the world that's largely ruled by totalitarian regimes, can we? And every time the U.S. does put real pressure on those regimes to reform, the people like Assad are busy hopping up and down and rolling their eyes and demanding they be left alone — like Iraq was defended before we went in and threw Sammy out. Make up your minds: do you want pressure on the totalitarian regimes or not? It sounds like you're giving a lot of lip service and it looks like you're not lifting many fingers to help alleviate the problem.
"We don't see any credible handling of despotic regimes in the Arab region," said Egyptian political analyst Muhammad al-Sayid Said. "There are people in the region who are his own dictators working for him."
I'd say giving Sammy the toss was a pretty credible handling of a despotic regime. There are others that people like Muhammad are more than willing to defend, like Baby Assad and the ayatollahs. It's fun to speak hypothetically, without naming a specific despotic regime you want handled credibly, but we're probably open to suggestions if you can come up with someone more deserving of deposition than the two regimes currently at the top of our list.
"I'm expecting US pressure on friendly dictators, even if they cannot do anything with some of their foes. They could demand a timetable for democratisation," Egyptian civil rights activist Saadiddin Ibrahim added.
Like in Egypt? Without demanding, without grasping their own liberty, I guess Egyptians will have to wait until we get around to deposting their despotic regime. We're trying to do it nicely, behind the scenes, but once we're done with Syria and Iran, the Land of the Nile's going to look like it might need some attention.
Bush had disappointed by not pushing US allies such as Egypt, Tunisia and Saudi Arabia to pursue democratic reform, said Ibrahim, who is making a symbolic bid for the Egyptian presidency this year. "One simple test would be to stop inviting despotic leaders to Washington," he said. "Use aid, trade and technology as peaceful pressure on these regimes to bring about the required democratic change," he said.
Seen Assad in Washington recently? Seen any ayatollahs there? Let's face it, compared to those two, Egypt and Tunisia are pretty pleasant places.

Egyptian writer and analyst Abd al-Karim al-Karimi said Bush's lavish "coronation ceremony" was a throwback to the colonial era and lambasted the president's address for promoting "democracy without content".
He wasn't crowned, like Egyptian kings used to be. He was elected. There was a certain amount of pomp and circumstance involved with his inauguration, but that's the way we do it. Look on the bright side: he didn't have his predecessor shot or chased out of the country. There weren't any corpses involved in the transfer of power, just a few defaced yard signs.
"All the world talks about liberty, but what liberty is it? What is the meaning of the democracy and the political liberties that the United States wants to impose in the Middle East? Bush does not say," he told Egyptian television.
You're not paying attention. Individual liberty involves the right of the citizen to be left alone except when his actions have a negative effect on other citizens. That means no one can tell an American what to say, no one can tell him what religion to practice, no one can tell him how to vote, no one can take his property away from him without due process of law. It means having a government that governs, rather than rules. It means, in the words of Huey Long, that every man is a king. We have no peasantry, we have no serfs, and we have no slaves. We bow to no man. Contrast that with what you've got now, Muhammad. I know — you could live like that, but the common folk couldn't handle it, right?
For Iraqi analyst Abd al-Hussain Shaaban the US administration has lost its credibility to promote democracy after launching an invasion of Iraq that two years on has left the country lacking the most basic security. "The United States is closing its eyes towards dictators who serve its own interests but attacks those that damage it," he added, in a reference to key US ally Saudi Arabia. "The fact that Iraq is in chaos and under military occupation does not bode well for democracy coming to the country and to the Middle East."
Posted by: Fred || 01/22/2005 9:00:47 PM || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [822 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Like a cobra is wary of a mongoose? Or like a deranged mental patient is wary of the shrink with his meds? The days of insanity are numbered, one way or another. You can shitcan the SOP Muslim apologia recitation - Allan missed this call, he never counted on Dubya. Happy Eid, asshats.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 1:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Sharansky.
Posted by: Dishman || 01/22/2005 2:31 Comments || Top||

#3  From above:
WS) Since we can't reproduce Ronald Reagan himself, what practical lessons from him can we apply today to achieve a similar effect?

NS) Linkage. This is the most important thing Reagan did. He established the pattern and insisted upon compliance. It worked to bring down the greatest, most totalitarian empire in all history. It can surely work today against enemies no less dangerous but far less powerful. But linkage takes both courage and moral clarity. Reagan's great strength was his optimistic faith in freedom and that every human being deserved freedom and that this freedom is a force that can liberate and empower and enrich and ennoble.

I'd wager that Sharansky saw a draft of the speech, and commented on it.
Posted by: Dishman || 01/22/2005 2:45 Comments || Top||

#4  "The fact that Iraq is in chaos and under military occupation does not bode well for democracy coming to the country and to the Middle East."

That does he thinks will happen to the Arabs if the rest of the world (including their Euro friends) decides that Arabs cannot be reformed, and remain a danger to everybody else as long as they exist?
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:37 Comments || Top||

#5  from today's WaPo (reg. req'd):

The planning of Bush's second inaugural address began a few days after the Nov. 2 election with the president telling advisers he wanted a speech about "freedom" and "liberty." That led to the broadly ambitious speech that has ignited a vigorous debate. The process included consultation with a number of outside experts, Kristol among them.

One meeting, arranged by Peter Wehner, director of the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives, included military historian Victor Davis Hanson, columnist Charles Krauthammer and Yale professor John Lewis Gaddis, according to one Republican close to the White House. White House senior adviser Karl Rove attended, according to one source, but mostly listened to what became a lively exchange over U.S. policy and the fight for liberty.

Gaddis caught the attention of White House officials with an article in the latest edition of Foreign Affairs magazine that seems to belie the popular perception that this White House does not consult its critics.

Gaddis's article is, at times, strongly critical of Bush's first-term foreign policy calculations, especially what he calls the twin failures to anticipate international resistance to Bush's ideas and Iraqi resistance to peace after the fall of Baghdad. But the article also raises the possibility that Bush's grand vision of spreading democracy could prove successful, and perhaps historic, if the right choices are made in the years ahead.

The former Soviet dissident Natan Sharansky also helped shape the speech with his book about the hopes of democratic dissidents jailed by despots around the world. Bush recommended the book, "The Case for Democracy: The Power of Freedom to Overcome Tyranny and Terror," to several aides and invited Sharansky, now an Israeli politician, to the White House in mid-November to discuss it, according to one official.

Posted by: cpm || 01/22/2005 11:26 Comments || Top||

#6  That's beautiful...
Thanks, cpm.
Posted by: Dishman || 01/22/2005 14:11 Comments || Top||

#7  The Muslim idea of freedom: A curly toed slipper stomping on a human face forever.
Posted by: 11A5S || 01/22/2005 14:48 Comments || Top||

Africa: North
Spain's king addresses Moroccan parliament
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Africa: Horn
U.S. in conflict with Europeans on Darfur war crimes trials
The United States is rejecting European proposals urging that the International Criminal Court prosecute Sudanese responsible for war crimes in the Darfur region of that country. Instead, the administration is pushing for a tribunal run by Africans, perhaps making use of the facility in Tanzania where trials growing out of the Rwanda genocide are taking place, a senior official said. The official, asking not to be identified, also said a U.N. commission examining the Darfur situation is not expected to classify the humanitarian crisis there as genocide. The commission likely will use language such as "grievous war crimes" or similar wording to describe the nearly two-year campaign by government-backed Arab militias against black African farmers in Darfur. In September, Secretary of State Colin Powell concluded that the abuses in Darfur constituted genocide. His finding was based on interviews by U.S. diplomats with hundreds of Darfur residents who have been uprooted from their homes. The Bush administration is eager for perpetrators of the abuses to be tried by a war crimes tribunal but strongly opposes the ICC as the venue.
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#1  Conflict? No conflict - the issues are common tenets of law, common history of precendence, common agreement on procedural and evidenciary rules, common appeals processes, simple competence, and the mythical universal legitimacy. The ICC? Lol, it has none of these. Just another EU joke, an absurd usurpation and encroachment of wank-o-matic bureaucrats and poltical schemers. Let them stay on vacation, it's what they do best.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 2:20 Comments || Top||

#2  No. NO. NO!!! ICC is the only corrent venue for trying crimes of against humanity!!! Only ICC is backed by the super ethical Eurabian block!!!
Posted by: gromgorru || 01/22/2005 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  "issues are common tenets of law, common history of precendence, common agreement on procedural and evidenciary rules, common appeals processes, simple competence, and the mythical universal legitimacy. The ICC? Lol, it has none of these."

And this African equivalent of the International Criminal Court will have them? If so, the article doesn't make it clear how.

"Only ICC is backed by the super ethical Eurabian block!!!"

States parties: http://www.icc-cpi.int/asp/statesparties.html

African states that have acceded: http://www.icc-cpi.int/php/show.php?page=region&id=3

Asian states that have acceded: http://www.icc-cpi.int/php/show.php?page=region&id=4

Seeing at the countries listed, the only Arab state there seems to me to be Jordan.

But as I've said, never any need for facts.

It seems to me that it's the super ethical American-Chinese-Russian-Arab bloc that refuses to support the ICC. Check out the list of member states yourself.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Aris, stop with the strawman thingy - there's a strawman gap already and you're just making it worse.

...the super ethical American-Chinese-Russian-Arab bloc that refuses to support the ICC.

Guilt by Association? Fuck off.
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 16:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Oh, no, I'm *sure* it's all coincidence. Absolutely utterly sure.

Still: for a Eurabian bloc, it seems to be sorely lacking any Arab members. And to be in extremly short supply of dictatorships and tyrannical regimes. Those tend to be gathered on the *other* side.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 16:51 Comments || Top||

I don't understand why the Bush administration would strongly oppose the ICC as a venue but support a tribunal in Tanzania? Why is one better than the other? What's the principle that is being asserted?

I know that the USA refuses to join the ICC. Why, though, does the USA object to other countries using that institution? If the USA opposes international tribunals on some principle, then why does it support an African international tribunal in this case?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 16:53 Comments || Top||

#7  .com, don't do it. Put they keyboard down and move away from the monitor before you go to 156/104. Just do it. It's for your own good.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 01/22/2005 17:04 Comments || Top||

#8  ROFLMAO!!!

I guess I am that predictable, lol! I have been clacking out a reply, of course...

Okay, you're wise, level-headed, and smarter than the average bear, Mrs D, not to mention an ace.

Keyboard down - and Peace to the intelligent life on RB. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 01/22/2005 17:09 Comments || Top||

#9  *yawn* Republicans in the United States know first hand a court run amuck while under the cover of "legal" jargon. And Aris expects us to imbibe of the hair of the dog that bit us?
Posted by: Ptah || 01/22/2005 19:06 Comments || Top||

#10  Mike, why would Bush sanction the use of an organization which has already demonstrated deliberate imbalance in seeking justice? The ICC has taken 10 years to handle a small number of Serbian atrocity trials, where the evidence is beyond question. It charged Ariel Sharon and other members of the Israeli government (current and former) and armed forces with war crimes based on acknowledged false evidence, making them liable to arrest should they travel to or through any of the countries which are signatory to the ICC -- or which wish to curry favour with those that are. It refuses even yet to charge various Palestinians with crimes for which there is ample evidence. It showed eager interest in trying British soldiers and member of the British government with war crimes for partaking in the invasion of Iraq.

The ICC, much like the U.N., is a lovely idea fatally and dangerously flawed in its execution. In my humble opinion, of course.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 19:07 Comments || Top||

#11  Or what Ptah said. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 19:11 Comments || Top||

#12  Ptah> "And Aris expects us to imbibe of the hair of the dog that bit us?"

I never said that I expect USA to support the ICC. I don't expect such a thing to happen.

I do however expect people to stop calling "Eurabian" a bloc that among about 100 countries, almost all of them democracies, from all over the world, contains only one Arab country.

I do expect them to stop making nice little jabs that are utter lies through-and-through. I'm hopelessly optimistic in the sense that I expect Rantburgers to *eventually* become interested in facts.

trailing wife> "The ICC has taken 10 years to handle a small number of Serbian atrocity trials, where the evidence is beyond question"

They are attempting to convict Milosevic of genocide, because genocide was a nice cool word for a person they tried to present as the next worst thing since Hitler. Ofcourse Milosevic was merely a minor regional imperialist and tinpot dictator, who didn't seem to care particularly about genocide one way or another -- genocidal actions were tactical decisions of subordinates, not a policy that he ever bothered to order from the top.

So the ICC has its hands full trying to prove the unproveable. Not convicting Milosevic of genocide would be a failure in the eyes of the West, convicting him would be a discrediting of the court in a more fundamental sense.

So they're stuck.

As for charging Ariel Sharon, are you sure about that? I've never heard anything like that, nor does it seem possible to me, according to the little I've read about the ICC's function. Do you have a reference?

Are you perhaps confusing it with what a Belgian court tried to do?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 20:03 Comments || Top||

#13  Btw, regarding Milosevic and "subordinates", the other problem ofcourse was that they were never officially subordinates to *him*, they were the boys of Karadjic and Mladic. *Them* they might be able to convict if they ever manage to catch.

Milosevic is rather trickier: It'd be like convicting Putin of the crimes that Yanukovych commited. Sure, *morally* responsible, but rather hard to prove in a court of law.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||

#14  ignore
Posted by: Tom || 01/22/2005 20:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Aris, admit it, you and yer Jacques chiracs, yer Yoska Fischers, and yer de Vile Pans must love Prsident Bush; because, as an Iron Curtain of tyranny descends over your hopeless continent, you don't lift a finger, instead you're all jumping up and down and squealling over some chariqature of the form of a duly elected American President. You miserable sheep! You've really done it to yourselves this time. You euro trash are sooo superior, and your elites know sooo well what is good for all you miserable prols, and you give them every indication that you must indeed be led around by the nose, sqealling praise for your messianic, untouchable, unaccountable, ( the EU, for the 9th year running, can account for only 1/10th of its budget) captors as you load first others, then finally you load yourselves onto the cattle cars bound for the next Auschwitz, the next Buchenwald, the next Dachau... squelling " thank you sir, may I have another!"
you're crass indubitable, innimitable, persistent snobbery will burn you all alive, this time, if your new pet victims, the islamonazis don't do it first. Pseudo-upperclass twit wanabees, the lot of you! And don't forget, there is no smoking permitted, because if you do, well, you'll be in a lot, I mean ALOT of trouble, and you'll only make things worse for yourself, not to mention your credit rating! BWAHAHAHAH! Burn in hell! or wait, burn here first! Ah HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Annie War || 01/22/2005 20:44 Comments || Top||

#16  Excellents points, all of them. I especially liked the maniacal laughter at the end.

Seeing a good maniacal laughter is so rare nowadays.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 20:59 Comments || Top||

#17  What Annie War wrote, I couldn't possibly, no matter how I tried. That is serious invective.

Aris, you may be right about the Belgian court vs. the ICC wrt Sharon, et al. I'm a bit fuzzy headed today -- two parties last night, when I'm accustomed to one every few months. (Yes, we are old poops, Mr. Wife and I. Oh, well. And no, it was club soda for me all evening, and the car keys to drive home with. I got the hangover without the alcohol or the drunk, darn it!) On the other hand, if the officers of the ICC chose to try the unprovable, the more fools they. And the worse an idea it appears to me to turn over more cases to them, when they are out of their depth with what they've already taken on. The African courts have been handling its cases expeditiously, and proving the provable. A much better choice for pragmatic reasons as well as ideological.
Posted by: trailing wife || 01/22/2005 21:06 Comments || Top||

#18  you're still a twit, with your nose so high in the air, too bad it doesn't work though, I don't see how you could miss each and every brand new, fresh, steaming heap the precious EU keeps piling up so high
Posted by: Annie War || 01/22/2005 21:11 Comments || Top||

#19  Annie, you are off-topic. Before you, only .com, mentioned the EU in this thread, not I.

As a sidenote, do you know what one of the first actions of the democrats in Ukraine (led by Yushchenko), were after they got into power? Seeking to speed up the process for eventual EU membership.

I'm sure that's just another case of utter coincidence, and it doesn't imply anything about whether freedom-loving people just outside the EU borders are seeing it as a beacon of hope.

trailing wife> If the African courts are doing the jobs better, jolly good: that's the kind of argument that's good to hear. If you have any links or references where I could find more information on that subject, I'd truly appreciate it.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 01/22/2005 21:27 Comments || Top||

Re #10 (Trailing Wife):

The ICC has taken 10 years to handle a small number of Serbian atrocity trials, where the evidence is beyond question.

So, how many years has the Tanzanian tribunal spent prosecuting the Rwanda crimes? The question I asked is, why is the Bush administration condemning the one and pushing the other? I don't think you answered my questions.

These crimes are difficult to prosecute legally. The tribunals are proving not merely that there were atrocities. The tribunals are proving that specific persons committed specific acts that constitute specific crimes. Legal evidence has to be assembled and then presented.

The efforts of these international tribunals are complicated by problems of distance, language, law, and so forth. You sure are critical of the efforts of other people to solve difficult problems, Trailing Wife.

It charged Ariel Sharon ....

I assume you're talking about the fence. Remind me, because I honestly don't remember: Did the ICC find fault with the the fence itself, or with the fact that the fence encroached across a line?

It showed eager interest in trying British soldiers and member of the British government with war crimes for partaking in the invasion of Iraq.

I don't know anything about that. Did the ICC indict British soldiers for partaking in the invasion of Iraq?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 22:14 Comments || Top||

#21  Legal approach: Ten years and still counting, with no end in sight-- as Aris puts it, "the ICC has its hands full trying to prove the unproveable."

Agressive military approach: had this been applied in the early 'nineties, Milosevic would have been killed and the deaths of tens of thousands averted.

The ICC is worse than ineffectual. To the extent it replaces military action, reliance on the ICC to do the hard work of ending genocide will only abet such actions. It's bad medicine of the sort that makes righteous westerners feel good while doing nothing whatsoever to deter genocidal killers who have nothing but contempt for western norms and legal proceedings.
Posted by: lex || 01/22/2005 22:22 Comments || Top||

The other day, a US court indicted a Ku Klux Klan member for a crime that was committed about 40 years ago. He had been indicted and tried before, and that trial ended in a hung jury for him, because one juror "refused to convict a preacher." So, why have we waited 40 years for the second trial? Because sometimes the millstones of justice grind slow, but exceedingly fine.

Germany's prosecutions of Nazis and concentration camp guards lasted for into the 1970s. The US Department of Justice is still prosecuting and deporting former Nazi collaborators who immigrated to the USA fraudulently more than 50 years ago.

The Nuremberg trials ended in 1949, four years after World War Two ended. The number of people who were tried was ...... 21.

This trial was followed by other trials, that extended over many years after that. These trials were conducted by the US and its Allied occupants. Relatively few people were convicted. Most of the sentences eventually were reduced to a few years of imprisonment. Many of the convicts were released immediately for time served. The sentences were reduced by decisions of the US occupation authorities.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 22:47 Comments || Top||

OK. Let the personal attacks against me begin.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 22:48 Comments || Top||

#24  I couldn't agree with you moore Mike. The proper US course would have been to deeply regret the warlike British, and ask the League of Nations Criminal Court to indict Hitler & Co. William Jennings Bryant would surely have torn Hitler and Mussolini new assholes. A lot of American blood and treasure would not have been spilled on the fields of Europe, and would have been the morally superior thing to do. After all what did Hitler and the Germans ever do to us? At least the Germans had Mercedes to sell, and we had plenty oil to sell. What did the Brits have?

The ICC and African tribunal can indict away. As long as the murderous gang in Khartoum incite, organize, and protect genocide, sorry, "grievous war crimes", the ICC would get more satifaction pissing up a rope. And as long as they are indicting "grievous war crimes" in Sudan, why not work chronologically and start with the 2 million Christians and Animists killed the past 30 years in Southern Sudan. Or are they worth less than the black muslims of Darfur?
Posted by: ed || 01/22/2005 23:30 Comments || Top||

Re: #24 (ed)

as long as they are indicting "grievous war crimes" in Sudan, why not work chronologically and start with the 2 million Christians and Animists killed the past 30 years in Southern Sudan. Or are they worth less than the black muslims of Darfur?

We live in a world of difficult problems. Sometimes we let some problems pass and address subsequent problems.

It's easy to blame the people who eventually do address problems for the past problems that were not addressed. It's easy for you, and it's easy for me. Everyone will highly appreciate our abilities to point out the problems in the past that should have been addressed earlier and our abilities to point out the problems of the present that are being addressed slowly and with great difficulty.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 01/22/2005 23:54 Comments || Top||

#26  Mike the problem is the ICC and like minded supporters reliance on the "Then a miracle occurs" step to world problems. The model that Europe is so enamored with can be listed as:
1. Genocide is occurring.
2. Then a miracle occurs.
3. The bad guys are before the ICC for 10 years.

The only problem is that the ICC crowd have no idea that step 2 involves miltary force to kill or root out those responsible. In reality, enforcement is the most critical. In the examples you cited, the Nazi's were invaded and killed or captured. The KKK was infiltrated and the members arrested. Milosevic and Serbia were bombed to an early industrial stage. Without these actions, all three would still be going strong and, I dare say, would have taken over those who did not violently fight back.

Europe will again have to learn that without enforcement, actions of groups like the ICC are just an advertisement of their weakness that people like the Nazis and Islamists will take advantage of.
Posted by: ed || 01/23/2005 0:19 Comments || Top||

Khartoum Releases 38 Opposition Members
The Sudanese government has released 38 members of the Popular Congress opposition party, including a senior leader, state media reported Friday. The release was seen as a gesture by the government toward rebels in Darfur, who the government is courting in an attempt to resolve the ongoing conflict that has killed tens of thousands. However, the government continues to detain Popular Congress party secretary Hassan Turabi and 12 other party members who are accused of plotting a coup to topple President Omar el-Bashir.
Well, that's a comfort. It'd be more of a comfort if he'd kicked it from "natural causes."
The official Sudan Media Center reported that authorities have released 38 members of the Popular Congress party since Tuesday, including Secretary for External Relations Mohamed Amin Khalifa, after investigations showed a "lack of sufficient evidence to charge them." Musa Mac Kor, Popular Congress deputy secretary, said that though the release was a "positive indicator," the government still needed to take actions such as lifting a state of emergency and canceling laws restricting freedoms before talks about "peace and of détente" could be held. The armed wing of the Popular Congress Party, the Justice and Equality Movement, is one of the main rebel groups in Darfur that continues to oppose government forces. The government is pushing reconciliation efforts in Darfur after successfully signing a peace agreement with separate southern rebels earlier this month to end 21 years of civil war. Khalifa was a member of a military council that brought Sudanese President Omar el-Bashir to power in June 1989. Khalifa later served in the government for over ten years, but he abandoned Bashir and joined Turabi after a split between the two.
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Dutch minister opens first western liaison office in post-war south Sudan
This'll probably do the southerners more good than any number of UN aid packages...
Dutch Development Cooperation Minister Agnes van Ardenne Thursday inaugurated the first western liaison office in post-war southern Sudan to in Rumbek, the region's provisional capital. The brief ceremony saw the raising of the Dutch and British flags in front of the office building located near the town's airstrip that will represent the interests of the two countries. "We do have an embassy in Khartoum, but Khartoum is too far away and here in Rumbek it should be done," van Ardenne told reporters. "The liaison office here will be strongly linked to our embassy in Khartoum and the British embassy in Khartoum," she added, saying the aim of having an office in the south was to ease contacts with the region's new leaders. Van Ardenne was the most senior western official to visit the war-ravaged town after Khartoum and the rebel Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM) signed a peace deal ending Africa's longest conflict. Many nongovernmental organizations and United Nations agencies have already moved their offices from bases in the Kenyan capital Nairobi to Rumbek.
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