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I can't believe this Rantburg crap is still here.
I see on Alexa that you dolts are 93,817. Pretty good.
Are we really? Pretty neat!
What about "Breaking a few eggs in Iraq" Mr. Smart-assed website guy.
I prefer to think of it as killing Bad Guys...
You as well as George Bush have been exposed as frauds You never served in military intelligence. Bush never showed up in Alabama.
Bush's attendance records have been published. Not being a public figure, I won't publish mine. Guess you'll just have to trust me on that.
Wake up you idiots have been had. Chuckle chuckle.
Thank you, Beavis.
-Ari Fliescher
You misspelled "Fleischer."
Posted by: || 02/15/2004 5:09:22 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yeah. I have been wondering just how incredibly stupid people could possibly be....

Hey webmaster! Why don't you get your self one of those metal detctors and get your ass over to Iraq? You might find those WMD... Hell you might be ab;le to support this shit site by seling aluminum cans at least...

wray blake. Nope, sorry not a Leftists. Just a fucking realist. Not like th fools who visit this dipshit site.
Posted by: wray blake || 02/15/2004 5:13 Comments || Top||

#2  wow someone's upset about thier budy Saddam getting caught.the rantings of a lefty eh, i say this cos realists don't appease dictators - they live in the real world see.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 02/15/2004 5:32 Comments || Top||

#3  ...flush...
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 6:02 Comments || Top||

#4  ...Yawn...
Posted by: Evert Visser || 02/15/2004 6:35 Comments || Top||

#5  What happen'
So,who pissed in your oatmeal.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/15/2004 6:39 Comments || Top||

#6  I see they've discovered life on Mars. Doesn't seem to be intelligent though.
Posted by: Rafael || 02/15/2004 6:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Bottom line:
Fred has 93,817 Valentines and Troll has none.

Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 7:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Okay, why are unsigned non-articles, with run-on sentences, allowed to be posted? Do we have any moderators at all here? Jeez I'm all for debating the opposite side, but this is just information-free.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 7:19 Comments || Top||

#9  ah..Gromky I agree ...except that it's not completely information free. As they say, even a blind squirrel can stumble upon an acorn now and then.

He had this right!
I see on Alexa that you dolts are 93,817. Pretty good.
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 7:49 Comments || Top||

#10  No facts, no links, no intelligence. Too bad you couldn't be one of those human shields in Iraq. You know, the ones who were sent to military and industrial sites with armed guards. Maybe after seeing things first hand you would change your mind.
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 8:24 Comments || Top||

#11  It looks like somebody received a big bottle of cognac for Valentine's Day.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 8:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Well, looks like I'll be able to keep making those boat payments and Miss Coganist could do with a better electronics suite.
Posted by: NMMs Therapist || 02/15/2004 8:31 Comments || Top||

#13  As long as there are leftists, fifth columnists and Islamists, there will be a Rantburg.
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 8:58 Comments || Top||

#14  cognac? more like nipping the Night Train..... losers come in all sizes, shapes, and colors...but they sure can't spell
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 9:09 Comments || Top||

#15  Gromky, we should leave a few for intellectual slapstick. Some Three Stooges for the mind.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/15/2004 9:13 Comments || Top||

#16  Somebody feed the baby more Deanios so he'll stop banging his spoon on his high-chair. OOZHA BOOSZHA does him haves a poopy dia-dee ?
Posted by: RipVanStinkle || 02/15/2004 9:40 Comments || Top||

#17  Thanks for dropping by Ari your profound insights and well thought advice will certainly add meaning to the lives of all of us here at Rantburg. Your posting will most certainly become the nucleus for further intellectual discussion of the WoT.
BTW, asshole you are so stupid you can’t even spell your own last name correctly.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||

#18  Wray Blake - as it happens, I'm looking for a new job at the moment. If one comes open in Iraq, I'll be there in a flash. I don't have much hope, though. They don't like to take you when you're old and arthritic. But I'm trying.

What are you doing?
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#19  Show us on the doll where daddy was touching you.
Posted by: 98Zulu || 02/15/2004 10:25 Comments || Top||

#20  You misspelled "Fleischer."
Fred that's the way they spell it at the DU.
From Google:
Ari Fliescher: The Ten Commandments of Patriotism. ... Ari Fliescher: The Ten Commandments of Patriotism. http://www.whitehouse.org/policy/commandments.asp ...
www.democraticunderground.com/forum_archive_html/ DCForumID22/1443.html
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 10:42 Comments || Top||

#21  but he nailed it in describing you, Fred:

"Mr. Smart-assed website guy." LOL
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#22  Wait right there, Wray; I'll get you a towel.
Posted by: Dave D. || 02/15/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#23  "Smart-assèd"? Moi? My feelings, if any, are so-o-o-o hurt.
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#24  Yes, Rantburg is still here. Rantburg is growing. There are more Rantburgians every day. The breakthrough has been made in Korea. You heard about the cloning breakthrough in Korea? Fourteen months to go from a single cell to a snarky website poster? That was us. Every month, a new wave of Steves comes off the assembly line. (Of course, there's still quality control issues for the underlying kimchee substrate, so sometimes you wind up with posters like... well, let's not mention him.) The Army of Steves is taking over, and if you eat the kimchee too, you could make the jump, and become one of us!
Posted by: Steve 64778 || 02/15/2004 11:12 Comments || Top||

#25  Wray! Wray! One mission at a time. At present, our esteemed webmaster is looking at for WMD (Wimmin: Most Distracting) over at FARK.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#26  I call for Wray to adopt a debatable position so that the pinata can begin in earnest. Even as invective I find no substance. Even though Wray has left us with nothing to hit, I believe that 98Zulu has smacked one out of the park.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#27  Steve,
I've been meaning to ask - if there can be an Army of Steve, can we clone at least enough of me for a Batallion of Mike?
Just asking.

Cheers,
Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 02/15/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#28  A battalion of Charles too. Not me, but Charles Johnson over at LGF.
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#29  Goody, a troll! Igor, my number six truncheon, please! And break out the muritic acid! If he's persistent, I may have to result to the ultimate weapon - the (gasp!) axehandle!

Run, little troll, run. Your life is in danger. You've stumbled among the the MEWBNCH SOBs. And surprise, quite a NUMBER of us have been in intelligence services at one time or another. Most of us have an IQ above room temperature, as well (don't you wish you did?).

BTW, Mike, you're ok - I'm a Mike in reality, though I hate to go there. Kinda stinks...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 11:57 Comments || Top||

#30  #10 Charles---I know or rather knew a human useful idiot shield. She was always a victim at work. Nothing was ever her fault. They protest but they do not offer real alternatives or solutions. I had a bellyfull of that at UC Berkeley in the 60's. Trolls are like dog turds on your driveway. They are an irritant, but they can be scooped up and disposed of and life goes on.

Army of Steve?
Batallion of Mike?
Platoon of Paul?

Well, it is a nice sunday up here.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/15/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#31  Grrrr.... I love this place :)
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/15/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#32  You know, I'm surprised this "Rantburg crap" is still here myself. I thought in the leftie pursuit of Free Speech, all non-politically correct sites would have been shut down by now.

--I'd like to see a Division of Dar, but there just aren't enough of us...
Posted by: Dar || 02/15/2004 13:41 Comments || Top||

#33  Fred--Since it seems to be a recurring theme, you should add "Smartassery Central" or something to the rotating Rantburg titles ("Tomorrow's News Today", "Oderint Dum Metuant", etc.). Like I commented some time ago, Rantburg now has 20% more smartassery--and fresh, lemon scent!

What? You don't have one of the new Scratch 'n' Sniff monitors yet? Luddite!
Posted by: Dar || 02/15/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#34  I got another one rotating title, seen somewheres on the internet:

An enigma, wrapped in a mystery, wrapped in a soft flour tortilla with cheese and sour cream.
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 14:14 Comments || Top||

#35  It is reassuring to see minds like "Ari" pop out of the crapper from time to time on Rantburg. It is a reminder that, as Michael Savage says, "Liberalism is a mental disease."
Posted by: AKScott || 02/15/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#36  By the way, folks, we are most likely going to see a LOT more of Ari's kind of postings from here until Bush crushes Kerry in November.

Ya see, leftists now have their candidate, and they are feelin' good about things. The crack residue is slowly leaving their system and the eternal hope of a socialist government in November, has them feelin' all funny in the pants.

Re: My post prior to this one:

It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside a flour tortilla with cheese and sour cream...
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 14:43 Comments || Top||

#37  Trolls thier so cute when there mad.:)
Posted by: djohn66 || 02/15/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||

#38  Lord I love a good riddle.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 17:17 Comments || Top||

#39  LOL! I love Rantburg! This thread is sending me to the tip jar. Awesome, folks, just hysterical! And I have to agree with SH, though many of these would be sufficient, in this thread 98Zulu stole the show! Kudos!
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||

#40  Wha? Hey Fred, where's the Amazon link? I don't do Paypal, bro.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 18:52 Comments || Top||

#41  Ah - it's displayed when in browse mode within an article - are you aware of that? I didn't see it until RB switched over to browse mode, which just occurred...
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 18:54 Comments || Top||

#42  I would support a Company of johns, but that would entail a lot of latrine duty....hey little troll...
Posted by: john || 02/15/2004 18:56 Comments || Top||

#43  A Kerfuffle of Franks is what we need, if I do say so myself! It translates poorly into Arabic, making it a two-edged sword!
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 19:18 Comments || Top||

#44  Lol! A kerfuffle, huh? Wow, talk about raising the bar! Hey, I surrender! ;-)
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 19:31 Comments || Top||

#45  Best news on the web. Best commenters on the web. Period.
Long Live the Axis of EFL!
(Don't forget the Wave of Jens, crack female support legion!)
Posted by: Jennie Taliaferro || 02/15/2004 20:32 Comments || Top||

#46  I suggest we bestow a few Titles on Fred, such as "Trollslayer", "Smartass in Chief", "Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade", etc. Long live Rantburg!
Posted by: PBMcL || 02/15/2004 22:20 Comments || Top||

#47  Couldn't let this thread roll over without me. Piss off, troll.

Carry on, Steves, Mikes, Franks, Gasses, Jens, Johns, Dars, Dots, and Pauls.

Fred, Rantburg serves up the best omelettes on the Innernut. Make mine a double with extra yolks, Mr. Smart-assed website guy!
Posted by: Seafarious || 02/15/2004 23:10 Comments || Top||

#48  98Zulu, thatsa 9.9. How can I co-op it?

Frnak G, thats a 8.8 and a silver. Your parents must be proud!
Posted by: Lucky || 02/16/2004 0:09 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Husband’s ashes used for shotgun cartridges
Not really my thing, but the kind of human interest story Rantburgers seem to like. The clergyman’s quote is a classic. Reg required.
The widow of an expert on vintage shotguns had her husband’s ashes loaded into cartridges and used by friends for the last shoot of the season.

Joanna Booth organised the shoot for 20 close friends on an estate in Aberdeenshire after asking a cartridge company to mix the ashes of her husband James with traditional shot.

A total of 275 12-bore cartridges were produced from the mix and were blessed by a minister before they were used to bag pheasants, partridges, ducks and a fox on Brucklay Estate.

Mrs Booth, of Streatham, south London, said it was a marvellous day out and her husband would have loved it. "It was not his dying wish, but I remembered that he had read somewhere that someone had had their ashes loaded into cartridges and he thought it was very funny.

"One of our friends, a woman who had never shot before, got four partridges with James’s marked cartridges."

Mr Booth, an independent sporting and vintage gun specialist for Sotheby’s in London, died two years ago, aged 50, after 18 months in a coma following severe food poisoning.

Julian McHardy, of the Caledonian Cartridge Company in Brechin, Angus, said it was the first request he had received to put ashes in shotgun cartridges. "He was loaded in our Caledonian Classic, a 28 gramme load, No 6 shot with degradable plastic wadding."

Before the first drive, the cartridges were blessed by the Rev Alistair Donald, the Church of Scotland minister from the nearby village of New Deer, who said he had no qualms. "It was a perfectly normal scattering of ashes, a few words and prayers. After all, he had a lifelong interest in ballistics."

The special cartridges accounted for 70 partridges, 23 pheasants, seven ducks and a fox on Jan 31.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 10:46:55 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
The real anti-thesis of Islam
One is bound to be awestruck by the craving for blood shown by those who have taken it upon themselves to supposedly take up the banner of vigilant advocacy for Islamic causes. From an academic standpoint, most of these misguided insurgents and even their leaders are neither scholastically qualified to render any meaningful interpretation of Islam, nor culturally in tune with the real fundamental principles of civilized Islamic practice, behavior and Jihad.
... if any.
To date, it is regrettable that their activities, on top of being excessively bloody, reckless and simply unacceptable from an Islamic perspective have actually been counterproductive in advancing the cause of Islam or in serving the aspirations of Moslems, let alone upholding the rights of any of the Moslem constituencies, in which they operate. Nevertheless, not one day passes nowadays without having to learn of a new gory bomb attack unleashed by “Islamic” militants, randomly carried out almost for the simple reason of spilling blood, in a senseless manner that defies logical comprehension. It is really pathetic to see so many young men being goaded to such frantic and practically fruitless massacres, after having been reared in special “Moslem Institutes”, “Madrassas”, from their very early ages to prepare themselves to unquestionably abide by their mentors’ orders to sacrifice their lives by the wanton shedding of blood of mostly innocent folk, msot of whom are now turning out to be members of Moslem communities within which they unleash their mentors’ sadistic cravings.
The birth rate's high, life is cheap. It's almost like it's a law of nature...
The almost daily carnages we are now bearing witness to in Iraq have turned a legitimate right of resistance to an inexcusable invasion and continuing occupation by the world superpower, under a frantic Administration and reclusive Zionsit and American right wing establishment into an appalling bloodbath. The ironies of all this mayhem are, one, it was this illegitimate conquest that created the venue for all this sad bloodletting and two, the perpetrators of the latter are actually turning the Iraqi population into the pool of the victims of this alleged insurgency, which in no way serves any resistance effort. On the contrary, it only imposes a venue of terror among the poor Iraqi people, as if they haven’t had enough terror, first under the Saddam regime, then under the bombardment of all the modern machinery of warfare that America can produce and now under this bloody mess by elements that wish to convince the world that this is for the good of the Iraqis, not to mention the several incidents of “mistakes” or getting carried away by the occupying forces, which have taken the lives of so many innocent people as well. This crazy bloody madness is no resistance.
Of course it isn't. It's killing people. The practice itself is as much the enemy as poor old mad Sammy...
This is also not Islam, no matter how one looks at it, and the perpetrators shall be accountable to God Almighty for every drop of innocent blood they spill. What a waste of young enthusiastic Moslems, who have been scientifically nurtured to even accept the bloodletting of their own brethren as sanctified and a magic passage to paradise. How naïve can any leaders be to actually think that they can get away with such monstrous displays of wanton disregard for the sanctity of the lives of innocent human life, especially that of their own brethren? This is sheer madness and a phenomenon of sadistic inclinations of moronic proportions, which Islam is completely innocent of and regards as an absolute violation of all the civility and humane principles embodied in the eternal message of the Prophet Mohammed (Peace of Allah be upon him).
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/15/2004 22:26 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The bottom line of this article is that Iraqis should kill Americans instead of other Iraqis.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/15/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#2  This may be the penultimate twisted piece of Islamist apologist tripe I've ever read.

RoPMA. Sick, perverse, and psychotic, Islam is the all-time all-world champ bottom-feeder.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||

#3  I suggest that the above two commentators re-read the article, preferably the entire article at the source. Nothing in the article advocates killing Americans or anybody else.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 23:43 Comments || Top||


U.S. May Base Troops Long-Term in Kuwait
As the United States military draws up long-term plans to leave Iraq, top officers are looking to the U.S. intervention in Bosnia’s civil war as a model for an American exit strategy here. The United States will keep combat teams in Iraq for the next few years, pulling them gradually out of cities into the countryside, and then perhaps into Kuwait and other countries. Eventually it will leave entirely, said Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack, commander of the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division.
Sorta like we’ve exited from Germany.
A slower version of this pullout plan is under way in Bosnia, with peacekeeping forces dwindling from 60,000 in 1995 to about 12,000 now, including about 1,200 U.S. troops. "You have the 82nd Airborne Division that can jump in here to reinforce regional forces or you have Marine offshore forces that can come in here and reinforce for a while," Swannack said in an interview with The Associated Press. "That’s what we have in Bosnia."
Bosnia isn’t the right model, guys. Germany is.
The military’s two-year disengagement plan could be upended by any number of events in Iraq. Civil war between its ethnic and religious groups might prolong the occupation, or it could be shortened by the election of an Iraqi government that orders the Americans out, said Anthony Cordesman, a military analyst with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "The timing, if Iraq transitions peacefully to its own sovereignty, is possible," Cordesman said. "But that’s not a promise that any of this is going to happen." Two rebel attacks in Fallujah this week cast doubts on the pullout plan, which depends on Iraqi security forces being able to defeat such assaults. On Saturday, dozens of guerrillas routed pro-U.S. Iraqi forces inside their own compounds, freeing prisoners and sparking a gunbattle that killed 23 people. Guerrillas had attacked the same security compound on Thursday just as the top U.S. commander in the Middle East, Gen. John Abizaid, was visiting the site. Abizaid, who escaped unharmed but observed the fighting, said Iraqi forces were "not ready" to take on the rebels.
Iraqi police and civil defense forces need a lot more training.
The Bosnia model itself has not moved according to plan. In the 1995 Dayton peace agreement, the Clinton administration envisioned U.S. soldiers staying there for about a year. They’ve been there for nearly nine since progress toward a political solution to ethnic rivalries has been slow. "If Bosnia is the model, God help us," said Richard K. Betts, director of Columbia University’s Institute of War and Peace Studies in New York.
That’s why Germany is the better model. We don’t ever want to give the jihadis hope that we’ll be gone one day. We’re there forever; they have to get used to it.
A three-phase plan will keep American forces able to respond and douse a civil war, as Iraq’s new police and military forces gather strength to take control of the country, Swannack said. As the ongoing troop rotation brings the level of U.S. troops from 130,000 to about 110,000, the current close-knit occupation of Iraq will devolve into what Swannack termed "local standoff," with American troops moving to the outskirts of Baghdad and other cities, and turning peacekeeping duties to Iraqi police and civil defense soldiers. Around the end of the year, the dwindling number of American troops in Iraq will pull further back, into "regional standoff" position, with just a few bases dotted around Iraq. Those bases will house U.S. combat teams that can back up Iraqi troops, Swannack said.
A year? He’s kidding. I figure three years before we can safely do this.
In two years or slightly longer, the U.S. military presence will mostly disappear, with much of the combat power focused on Iraq actually based outside the country - as is the case with forces prepared to respond to a crisis in Bosnia, Swannack said. However, sending U.S. troops back into Iraq may be politically impossible in a few years, said Betts, of the Institute of War and Peace Studies.
Which is why we don’t leave. We get a Basic Forces Agreement with the new Iraqi government and build a few bases in quiet, out of the way places. Then we really push the training and cooperation.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 12:35:04 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Prominent Jews in Britain targeted by Muslims and neo-Nazis
Prominent Jews in Britain are being targeted in a wave of anti-Semitic harassment by far-Right and Islamic fundamentalist organisations. The home of Lord Triesman, the former general secretary of the Labour party, has been attacked by Combat 18, the neo-Nazi group. Uri Geller, the Israeli television personality, and Barbara Roche, the former Labour minister, have been the victims of graffiti and hate mail. The incidents have emerged as police prepare to release figures this week showing that Britain saw a significant rise in anti-Semitic incidents in 2003.
Muslims and Nazis team up again, no big surprise there I suppose.
Posted by: TS || 02/15/2004 11:11:02 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So how do you tell the neo-Nazis from the Islamic fundamentalists? The amount of hair?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/15/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  The Mooslims are the ones with the turbans. The neo-nazis are the ones with the neo-swastikas tattooed on their necks.
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  They all look the same with a noose around their necks - which is what I think they all SHOULD be wearing.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#4  I can't believe Uri didn't see this coming.

Actually, I can. Too bad he can't just bend a spoon and get out of it.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 02/15/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#5  They ought to round up all the skinheads and make them participate in the exumation of the mass graves in Iraq. A tour through the Kim's death camps is probably out of the question - maybe a winter visit to the Gulag would be enough. What a bunch of punks.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 16:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Nazism is a form of totalitarianism, as are communism and fascism. All are on the FAR LEFT. How can one logically accuse a RIGHT-WINGER of wanting limited government, then turn around and call Nazism -- highly centralized power in the hands of a dictator -- RIGHT-WING? Nazis and Neo-Nazis are LEFT-WINGERS. Nonetheless, news accounts I have read over the last year would indicate LEFT-WING royals, members of parliament, the BBC employees, the press, university professors and their students make-up the largest group of raging anti-Semites in Britland.
Posted by: Garrison || 02/15/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#7  I am so sorry to predict that the same is going to happen in US. It is just a matter of time. I do not think, people of free word have realized that they are next in line after the Islamic holocaust of Jews and Israel if they let it happen. It is already going on in some parts of the world. Hiding their head in the sand will never let such a disaster to go away.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 18:47 Comments || Top||

#8  I think it is time to drag out the past links between Islamic political figures and REAL Nazis. people like Adolf and Hess and Borman and Heinrich. People like the Grand Mufti.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 20:19 Comments || Top||

#9  The Nazis were National Socialists as opposed to the Bolshevick international socialists.

'Far right' is just a term the Left uses to identify anyone they don't like. I heard the BBC a couple of days ago call the Iranian Council of Guardians 'Far right'.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 23:11 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
China linked to Libyan nuclear program
Investigators have identified China as the origin of nuclear weapons designs found in Libya last year, exposing yet another link in a chain of proliferation that passed nuclear secrets through Pakistan to other countries in Asia and the Middle East, according to government officials and arms experts.

The bomb designs and other papers turned over by Libya have yielded dramatic evidence of China’s long-suspected role in transferring nuclear know-how to Pakistan in the early 1980s, they said. The designs were later resold to Libya by a Pakistani-led trading network through a nuclear trading network that is now the focus of an expanding international probe, added the officials and experts, who are based in the United States and Europe.

The packet of documents, some of which included text in Chinese, contained detailed, step-by-step instructions for assembling an implosion-type nuclear bomb that could fit atop a large ballistic missile. They also included technical instructions for manufacturing components for the device, the officials and experts said.

"It was just what you’d have on the factory floor. It tells you what torque to use on the bolts and what glue to use on the parts," one weapons expert who had reviewed the blueprints said in an interview. He described the designs as "very, very old" but "very well engineered."

U.S. intelligence officials concluded years ago that China provided early assistance to Pakistan in building its first nuclear weapon -- assistance that appeared to have ended in the 1980s. Still, weapons experts familiar with the blueprints expressed surprise at what they described as a wholesale transfer of sensitive nuclear technology to another country. Notes included in the package of documents suggest that China continued to mentor Pakistani scientists on the finer points of bomb-building over a period of several years, the officials said.

China’s actions "were irresponsible and short-sighted, and raise questions about what else China provided to Pakistan’s nuclear program," said David Albright, a nuclear physicist and former U.N. weapons inspector in Iraq. "These documents also raise questions about whether Iran, North Korea and perhaps others received these documents from Pakistanis or their agents."

The package of documents was turned over to U.S. officials in November following Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi’s decision to renounce weapons of mass destruction and open his weapons laboratories to international inspection. The blueprints, which were flown to Washington last month, have been analyzed by experts from the United States, Britain and the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog.

Weapons experts in Libya also found large amounts of equipment used in making enriched uranium, the essential ingredient in nuclear weapons.
Snipping through what we already know about the Khan network ...
Of the many proliferation activities linked to Khan’s network, the selling of weapon designs is viewed as the most serious. The documents found in Libya contained most of the information needed to assemble a bomb, assuming the builder could acquire the plutonium or highly enriched uranium needed for a nuclear explosion, according to U.S. and European weapons experts familiar with the blueprints. At the same time, one of the chief difficulties for countries trying to build nuclear weapons has been obtaining the plutonium or uranium.

Libya appeared to have made minimal progress toward building a weapon, and had no missile in its arsenal capable of carrying the 1,000-pound nuclear device depicted in the drawings, the officials said. However, weapons experts noted, the blueprints would have been far more valuable to the other known customers of Khan’s network.

"This design would be highly useful to countries such as Iran and North Korea," said Albright, whose Washington-based Institute for Science and International Security has studied the nonconventional weapons programs of both states. The design "appears deliverable by North Korea’s Nodong missile, Iran’s Shahab-3 missile and ballistic missiles Iraq was pursuing just prior to the 1991 Persian Gulf War," he said.

Such a relatively simple design also might be coveted by terrorist groups who seek nuclear weapons but lack the technical sophistication or infrastructure to build a modern weapon, said one Europe-based weapons expert familiar with the blueprints. While such a bomb would be difficult to deliver by air, "you could drive it away in a pickup truck," the expert said.
What a charming thought. What do you suppose the odds are that Binny purchased a couple during his years in Afghanistan?
The device depicted in the blueprints appears similar to a weapon known to have been tested by China in the 1960s, officials familiar with the documents said. Although of an older design, the bomb is an implosion device that is smaller and more sophisticated than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II. Implosion bombs use precision-timed conventional explosives to squeeze a sphere of fissile material and trigger a nuclear chain reaction.

Pakistan’s first nuclear test in 1998 involved a more modern design than the one sold to Libya. Albright said the Libyan documents "do not appear to contain any information about the nuclear weapons Pakistan has built."
I’m sure that’ll be of a great deal of comfort to the folks in the city that’s the first to go kaboom from one of these "primitive" nukes.
The documents at the center of the investigation were handed over to IAEA inspectors in two white plastic shopping bags from a Pakistani clothing shop. The shop’s name -- Good Looks Tailor -- and Islamabad address were printed on the bags in red letters. One of the bags contained drawings and blueprints of different sizes; the other contained a stack of instructions on how to build not only a bomb but also its essential components.

The documents themselves seemed a hodgepodge -- some in good condition, others smudged and dirty; some professionally printed, others handwritten. Many of the papers were "copies of copies of copies," said one person familiar with them. The primary documents were entirely in English, while a few ancillary papers contained Chinese text. The package also included open-literature articles on nuclear weapons from U.S. weapons laboratories, officials familiar with the documents said.

Strikingly, although most of the essential design elements were included, a few key parts were missing, the officials and experts said. Some investigators have speculated that the missing papers could have been lost, or hadn’t ’t yet been provided -- possibly they were being withheld pending additional payments. Others suggested that the drawings were simply thrown in as a bonus with the purchase of uranium-enrichment equipment -- "the cherry on the sundae," one knowledgeable official said.

Libyan scientists interviewed by international inspectors about the designs said they had not seriously studied them and were unaware that anything was missing. As Libya had no suitable missile or delivery system for a nuclear weapon, the scientists might have decided to delay work on bomb designs until other parts of their weapons program were further advanced, one knowledgeable U.S. official said.

U.S. and European investigators said there were many similarities among the other nuclear-related designs and components found in Libya and Iran, suggesting they were provided by the same network.

As for who delivered the material to the Libyans, a European official who has studied the question said the connection to the Khan network was indirect. "The middleman is quite invisible. The middleman has covered his tracks very well."

The evidence of China’s transfer of nuclear plans to Pakistan confirms something that U.S. officials have believed since at least the early 1980s. A declassified State Department report on Pakistan’s nuclear program written in 1983 concluded that China had "provided assistance" to Pakistan’s bombmaking program. "We now believe cooperation has taken place in the area of fissile material production and possibly nuclear device design," the report said.

While the discovery of direct evidence of such cooperation was disturbing, it was noteworthy that China’s views on proliferation have changed dramatically since the 1980s, and its leaders now generally cooperate with the United States and other countries in stopping the leaking of sensitive weapons technology, said Jonathan Wolfsthal, a nonproliferation expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

"Did the Chinese make a huge mistake in sharing technology with Pakistan? Sure. Did we make a mistake by looking the other way in the 1980s when Pakistan was developing the bomb? Yes," Wolfsthal said. "But none of that should get in the way of dealing with the real threats we face today. Our priority must be to drain the swamp created by the action of these nuclear suppliers and businessmen over the past 10 years."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 1:01:26 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sorry about the length on this one, but there's a lot of info here to digest. The basic gist of it is that anybody who did business with Khan and Co during the last decade or so likely has the design specs with which to build a nuke.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 1:03 Comments || Top||

#2  I've said before that I believe that the ChiComs are in the background when it comes to the Pak-NorK proliferation. Even if they weren't involved in selling knowledge to Libya, Iran etc. they were major factors in both the nuclear and missile programs of Pakistan and North Korea (their 2 strongest allies) and probably knew a great deal about the other countries programs, while staying away from direct proliferation themselves for deniability.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/15/2004 1:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Sometimes I think T. Telenko is a little too paranoid when he posts over at Winds of Change. But he's right again! Cut-out. Pakistan is a cut-out.
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 02/15/2004 2:33 Comments || Top||

#4  What was China's motivation? Simply to make trouble for the U.S. and Soviets?

Also, who cares how old the design is? Fat man was a primitive design, that nonetheless did its job in a workmanlike fashion
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 8:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Has everyone read The Gold of Exodus? If you haven't you should. Besides being a great book - it certainly gives some good insight.
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 8:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Doesn't surprise me, Soviet Russia during the cold war used to use terrorist proxies to fight the west, it doesn't surprise me that China believes in the motto "The enemy of my enemy is my friend", in this case they've always been looking at a way to take a swipe at us while they could play relatively safe.

Posted by: Valentine || 02/15/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#7  The genie's been out of the bottle ever since Fat Man was dropped in 1945. Once you know something like that CAN work, it's not too hard to determine how to MAKE it work. I have no first-hand experience with nuclear weapons, but could design one that works. Manufacturing is a bit more difficult. Once you get the concept down, the rest is simply engineering. That, not the proliferation of design by one country or another, is the really scarey part.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||


Japan to Press North Korea on Abductions
Japan will press North Korea to meet on the sidelines of upcoming talks on Pyongyang's nuclear weapons program and try to resolve a dispute stemming from Pyongyang's abduction of Japanese citizens. That effort will come despite North Korean warnings that it could hurt progress in the nuclear arena, officials said. Shinzo Abe, second in command of Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's ruling party, was speaking a day after meetings between Japanese and North Korean officials in Pyongyang made no headway toward ending a diplomatic tug-of-war over the children of five Japanese who spent two decades in captivity in North Korea. North Korea's state media warned afterward it would "shut out" Japan from Feb. 25 nuclear talks with the United States and three other countries in Beijing if Japanese diplomats brought up the abduction issue, adding ambiguously that "this will bring everything to a collapse."
A bit sensitive on the subject, are we?
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/15/2004 00:03 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Down Under
France warns of upcoming terrorist attacks in Australia
The French authorities have warned of a likely terrorist attack in Australia this year, according to the Herald Sun newspaper. It said the French had confirmed that a terrorist cell in Sydney with plans to launch a devastating attack was broken up after the arrest of French terrorist suspect Willie Brigitte. But they said a sleeper cell still existed in Australia, which is regarded as "weak" by extremist organisations. Senior French sources fear the cell is planning a post-Iraq war attack and believe it is linked to little-known groups in the Russian region of Chechnya and the former Soviet state of Georgia.
So it looks like Basayev as well as the LeT are going to global to pick up the slack for the International Front ...
"An attack in Australia is inevitable. I would not be surprised if something occurred in this year," one senior official was quoted by the newspaper as saying.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:35:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
But they said a sleeper cell still existed in Australia, which is regarded as "weak" by extremist organisations.

The Moslem radicals in Australia are only semi-men.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  The Moslem radicals in Australia are only semi-men.
Actually, they may have "accidentally" discovered women, beer, and rugby, and could give a rat's a$$ about doing anything that might upset the applecart. Why blow yourself up in the hope of getting into heaven when there's a large dollop of it right there in front of you?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#3  You got it OP... meanwhile keep sending money, we're training hard and getting ready, learning to tolerate the naked women and beer.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Yep, Oz is nearly paradise. If it weren't for those silly gun control laws, it would be heaven on earth.

Guns, girls, booze and guns.

("You said guns twice." "I like guns.")

Ed Becerra
Posted by: Ed Becerra || 02/15/2004 15:50 Comments || Top||


Oz terror suspect enjoys free rein
A week after a Pakistani-born man was named publicly as a terror suspect he is still free, walking the streets of Sydney. And it is almost four months since anti-terror forces searched the man’s home in south-western Sydney, along with those of six others who were identified as key associates of terror suspect Willy Brigitte, who is in a French jail cell. But despite accusations that the man, named as Abu Hamza, was part of a group allegedly planning a terror attack in Sydney, police are powerless to put him behind bars. The Federal Government says it cannot detain him as he has not broken any law. Hamza has cut off his phone and moved house several times since he came to the attention of ASIO. His lawyer, Stephen Hopper, said Hamza denies being involved in any terrorist group. Mr Hopper said Hamza does admit to helping Brigitte settle in Sydney when he arrived here in May 2003, but said he did it as he is obliged to do so under the Muslim custom of helping a traveller.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/15/2004 12:03:53 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
the Muslim custom of helping a traveller

Free-association test. Read the phrase and name the first religion that comes to mind.

1. Hijackings
2. Slitting stewardesses' throats
3. Airplanes crashing into skyscrapers
4. Exploding bombs inside airplanes
5. Banditry
6. Pushing cripples overboard from cruise ships
7. Roadside bombings
8. Blowing up busses
9. Automobiles packed with explosives
10. Blowing up hotels
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  is it the 'religion of peace' ???
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 02/15/2004 4:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Interesting juxtaposition of convergence of incriminating factors.

Keep that sucker under a microscope.Everybody slips every once in awhile.When he does,nail his ass to the floor.

Posted by: Raptor || 02/15/2004 6:38 Comments || Top||

#4  11. Shooting machine guns at lines of people inside airport terminals
12. Stealing passports
13. Attacking and murdering tourists getting off a bus to look at pyramids
14. Blowing up a gas tanker to kill tourists at an ancient synagogue
15. Murdering medical missionaries
16. Holding foreign journalists, diplomats and missionaries hostage
17. Attacking embassies and consulates
18. Cutting off the head of a foreign journalist
19. Threatening to murder all the passengers on a hijacked airplane if fellow terrorists are not released from prison
20. Selecting the passengers with US passports, killing one, and throwing his corpse out onto the tarmac.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 8:27 Comments || Top||

#5  21. Forgery and / or possession of multiple passports.
22. Terrorist alias(es); i.e., Abu Hamza.
Posted by: Raj || 02/15/2004 10:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Keep that sucker under a microscope.Everybody slips every once in awhile.When he does,nail his ass to the floor.
Raptor, "Nacht und Nebel" (night and fog) works for me. Frees up the microscope.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 11:05 Comments || Top||

#7  You forgot
23.modern day slave raids
Posted by: TS || 02/15/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#8  Jon, it's the Religion of 'Pieces' - somebody had a bad lisp, and mispronounced it once...

Go back and look at the list - the name's self-evident.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 13:27 Comments || Top||


Europe
Terror suspect back in Spain for questioning
A Spaniard held at the US base at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba for two years for his suspected links with the al-Qaeda terror network arrived in Spain on Friday evening for questioning by a judge. Hamed Abderrahman Ahmad, 29, who was captured in Afghanistan in late 2001, arrived at Madrid’s military airport and was immediately taken to Judge Baltasar Garzon at the national court for an initial interview.
"Hamed Abderrahman Ahmad"? That's a good, old-fashioned Spanish name. Bet he dances a mean fandango, too.
"It’s a great day, because he has become a human being again," Ahmad’s lawyer Javier Nart said outside the court house.
"The poor lad can go to the bull fights again! He can drink Sangria! He can dance with fiery-eyed women holding roses in their teeth! Hooplah!"
Court sources said Ahmad would be informed of the charges against him and then either jailed or taken to a hospital for treatment, depending on his state of health after his detention in Guantanamo. The Spaniard, from Spain’s North African enclave of Ceuta, is one of four Guantanamo inmates that Garzon has charged with belonging to a terrorist organization, by association with Imad Eddin Barakat Yarkas, the jailed alleged leader of an al-Qaeda cell in Spain broken up in November 2001. Garzon was not expected to bring Ahmad back for more detailed questioning for another two weeks.
Going to leave him in a Spanish jug? That sounds about right...
Also on Friday, the Spanish government began extradition proceedings for three other suspected members of the Spanish cell. At a regularly scheduled Cabinet meeting, ministers approved a request from Garzon that the government ask the US to extradite the three to Spain. They have been identified as Lahcen Ikassrien, Jamiel Abdul Latif Al Banna and Omar Deghayes. Their nationalities have not been released.
Wonder if Jamiel's any relation to Sabri al-Banna (aka Abu Nidal)?
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:09:18 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Court sources said Ahmad would be informed of the charges against him and then either jailed or taken to a hospital for treatment, depending on his state of health after his detention in Guantanamo.

Jail.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2 
It’s a great day, because he has become a human being again

This is a great day, because Ahmad will now begin occupying a Spanish jail cell for the next several years as a punishment for conspiring to mass-murder human beings. Meantime, we can put another terrorist in his former cell at Guantanamo.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Spaniard!
Posted by: Raj || 02/15/2004 10:17 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Kerry intern hiding in Kenya
The young intern at the centre of a furore involving United States presidential hopeful John Kerry is hiding out in Kenya. Alex Polier, 24, has been in the country for the past few weeks visiting her fiancee, Mr Yaron Schwartzman, who works with FilmStudios, along Nairobi’s Ngong Road. Ms Polier, who could end Senator John Kerry’s hopes of becoming the next president of the United States, is alleged to have had a two-year affair with the front-runner for the Democratic nomination.
Oooh! So he did catch her? Tusk tusk, John. A man of your age! Have you no dignity?
"This is not going to go away," one American friend of Ms Polier said yesterday. "What actually happened is much nastier than is being reported."
I guess the juice will be in the details. Or maybe it's dried by now...
Ms Polier, a former intern who also spent some time in 1998 doing work experience at the Houses of Parliament in London, is in Kenya staying with Mr Schwartzman.
It was not immediately clear what Mr Schwartzman does at FilmStudios. Efforts to contact the family home in the leafy suburb of Lavington were fruitless.
Miss Polier and her fiance were believed to be hiding at the Nairobi home of Mr Schwartzman’s parents, who moved to Kenya from Israel. Mr Joseph Schwartzman is the chairman of the H Young group of companies. His wife, Hannah, is described by friends to be a devout Jew who was hoping to see her future daughter-in-law convert to Judaism before the wedding ceremony planned for some time later in the year. The Nation has established, however, that the couple were students together at Columbia University in New York.

Both have refused to make any comment on her alleged links with Senator Kerry, who is married to Teresa Heinz Kerry, heiress to a food empire. Senator Kerry, a decorated Vietnam veteran dubbed the new JFK, has vehemently denied any relationship with Miss Polier and shrugged off allegations that he had a two-year affair with her from 2001. He said: "I just deny it categorically. It’s rumour. It’s untrue. Period."
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Polier..."
Mr Kerry, married once before, was something of a playboy after his divorce, dating starlets Morgan Fairchild and Catherine Oxenberg. Mrs Heinz-Kerry, who has been a fixture on the campaign trail, is no shrinking violet. She once told a writer for Elle magazine that she would jokingly warn her first husband that if he ever strayed, "I’ll maim you. Not kill you, just maim you."

Mr. Kerry’s aides have blamed a dirty tricks campaign for bringing the allegations about Miss Polier into the public eye; they first surfaced last week on a right-wing internet site, the Drudge Report, which famously first broke the news of Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky.
Drudge, presumably, didn't make it up out of thin air. And I notice he's only "right-wing" when he's goring Dems...
Ms Polier’s parents, Terry and Donna, from Malvern, Pennsylvania, added fuel to the fire by claiming that Mr Kerry did pursue their daughter. Said Mr Polier: "I think he’s a sleazeball. I did wonder if she didn’t get that feeling herself. He’s not the sort of guy I’d choose to be with my daughter. John Kerry called my daughter and invited her to be on his re-election committee. She talked to him and decided against it." Miss Polier, a journalist who once worked for Associated Press, apparently met the senator as she was beginning her media career.
Posted by: TS || 02/15/2004 2:38:04 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess Kerry was working on his democratic political credentials, and Polier helped.

In a perverse way this intern could wreck a total immolation of the democrats in November; such a scandal could conceivably detract from the real issues: Kerry's socialist ideas and his comrades.

Hopefully, however, the dems will start to talk about the future and tell us all what a big deal this episode isn't.

I can dream.
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 15:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Bimbo Eruptions are so turn-of-the-century. Can't these mopes come up with some new peccadillos?
Posted by: mojo || 02/15/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#3  How can they say she's 'hiding out' when they know exactly where she is, and with whom?
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#4  The afianced is a Jooooooooooooooooo? Aha!
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#5  If Kerry is getting some on the side, I could care less. If it ecver comes up in a sworn depostition then I do care. If BC had had the guts to say "yah I was getting a little oral satisfasction" the whole thing would of blown (sorry) over quickly. Most people I have talked to, left and right seem to hold that against him.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 19:31 Comments || Top||

#6  what if he hadn't had sex with her but assaulted her sexually --- I'm sure NOW will back Kerry anyway, but what would a normal voter think?
Posted by: mhw || 02/15/2004 19:35 Comments || Top||

#7  If the charges prove true, it will be hilarious to watch the mental and verbal gymnastics the NOW-crowd will attempt to justify continued support for Kerry. It will a repeat of the Whore-hound from Hope.
Posted by: alaskasoldier || 02/15/2004 19:48 Comments || Top||


Democracy here & there
How do you build up democracy in Iraq when it’s falling apart in the United States? Well, that is perhaps an overstatement, but the appearance is father to the fact on most of this planet. Our own prime minister seemed utterly secure until the Auditor General’s report landed on Tuesday. The American President was in fairly good shape until David Kay reported back on Iraqi WMD. John Kerry was a shoe-in for the Democrat leadership until the Drudge Report got its scoop on Thursday.

And at a deeper level, the most basic questions about our political and constitutional orders are now going before the courts, as the "culture wars" between left and right, libertarian and conservative, pull apart what remains of the social consensus that makes parliamentary democracy possible. One cannot help but sense this in the tone of recrimination between Clintonian Democrats and Bushite Republicans south of our border: each viscerally hates almost everything the other stands for, and may be prepared to forget their most fundamental common interests in pursuit of each other’s demise.

But to stay on topic, President Bush’s bold, and so far remarkably successful essay in changing the whole Middle Eastern order, so that it ceases to offer an external threat, has depended upon his own relative political security. He has been able to rely until recently on solid domestic support and trust, and on that was built the world’s perception that American power is irresistible. But now the world sees a President Bush whom it thinks may be, in political terms, mortally wounded.

One of the many immediate repercussions is in Iraq, where the prestige the U.S. requires to force various Iraqi factions into agreement on a way to conduct elections, or even a way to avoid a terrorist-triggered civil war, is ebbing quickly.

The transience of political power in a democratic order is what makes it so attractive in every situation except that of mortal external danger. Faced with a huge post-9/11 threat, and shocked by the events which announced it, the U.S. responded boldly; but with a consensus that is now wearing off. The long-term strategy on which Mr. Bush embarked -- to deal with terrorism’s "root causes" in the ideological turmoil of the Middle East -- is being reviewed in the light of short-term political exigencies, with babies and bathwater swirling about.

Mr. Bush’s sudden decline in support may be more apparent than real. A look into the numbers reveals that while John Kerry may be ahead of him for the moment in polls, the Bush support is more solid and certain. And the Internet convulsion over Mr. Kerry’s alleged sex life this week has undermined his own candidacy. But the primaries have shown one trend clearly: that whoever emerges atop the Democrat ticket, he will be trying to ride the very American pendulum that is now swinging back from internationalism to isolationism, as Americans ask themselves, "What have we got into?"

It is because the Bush administration has succeeded (whether through luck, or action, or some lucky action) in preventing a repeat of the 9/11 massacres, that the American public is beginning to forget why it is fighting abroad. The danger in forgetting is very large -- for as a direct result of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, they may not have found huge stockpiles of "WMD" on location, but have a much better idea of the extent of proliferation elsewhere. Only a very tough-minded and assertive, internationalist U.S. can continue to make progress.

Perhaps the good news in the war on terror is that the other side has no idea how to exploit the chaos of an election year: you have to be familiar with democracy yourself to grasp the possibilities. The bad news is that the first priority of "terror international" through November will be to get rid of Bush -- their most lethal single enemy.

This means the security of the United States and the West depends in the interim on the responsibility of the U.S. Democrat Party. It must have the wisdom to allow domestic politics to end at America’s shores; and it must make clear to the world beyond those shores that, if it wins power, it will be every bit as stalwart and, when necessary, unilateral in defending U.S. interests as the Bush administration has been. If, as in Vietnam, they think they can win, by making sure that the United States loses, then Iraq won’t prove another Vietnam. It will be much worse.
Bush's biggest mistake was in not pushing the fact of the war on terror in every speech, not explaining over and over again to the short attention span public that our enemies want to destroy our civilization.
Posted by: tipper || 02/15/2004 1:06:26 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  David Warren is a smart fellow and is always worth reading. I've got him bookmarked.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 2:23 Comments || Top||

#2  Dr Steve - Are you on Thorazine this morning?!!?! IMHO, this is an over-dramatic hash, swinging wildly to and fro, waxing and waning between absurdity, phantasy, and skeer-mongering. Methinks he succeeded (whether through luck, or action, or some lucky action) in stumbling to the bitter bloody jagged end of the piece. None for me, thanx.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 6:22 Comments || Top||

#3  .com
As an infamous politican in Australia (Pauline Hansen) once said "please explain"
Posted by: tipper || 02/15/2004 6:53 Comments || Top||

#4  Hmm..I guess I agree with both Steve and .com if that's possible.

It's almost like a list of the benefits of why Bush and Democracy are the better way, with a feeble attempt to pound a square peg of "Americans and Republicans suck" into a round hole.

For example:
..."One cannot help but sense ... each viscerally hates almost everything the other stands for, and may be prepared to forget their most fundamental common interests in pursuit of each other’s demise. "

This is EXACTLY why democracy is the best available form of government to date in the 5000+ years of the recorded history of mankind. You will NEVER get consensus. Never ever, ever. Democracy allows groups, who despise each other, a peaceful means to place in power the leader who would win if you actually did have a battle. Ballots are basically a "show of arms" as to the strength of the various sides and allow the two sides to see where compromise is the better form of valor.

That we live in peace, despite our dramatic differences, is why our form of government is what is needed in Iraq...unless he has a better plan. Maybe he should consider working with the best available instead of allowing perfect to be the enemy of good.
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 8:35 Comments || Top||

#5  This is EXACTLY why democracy is the best available form of government to date in the 5000+ years of the recorded history of mankind.

WRONG!
WRONG!
WRONG!

Democracy is not. A REPUBLIC where the rights are retained by individuals and governments are constrained by law and restrained by courts and voters is the best form of government.

Democracy is what we have when we vote in people who will rob one group to pay another, when you have a mob who rules, when when you have charlatains who restrict speech based on "popularity" or "political correctness".

Democracies suck.

democracy is best used as one fo the tools to help maintain a republic. Note the smalld and smallr - the Big D democrats have lost sight of the fact that we have a republic, and the Republicans have lost sight of the fact that they need to educate the populace so they can be informed voters.

That simple.
Posted by: OldSpook || 02/15/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#6  OS - I stand corrected :-)
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#7  "Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried"

Winston Churchill
Posted by: john || 02/15/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#8  Democracy is not. A REPUBLIC where the rights are retained by individuals and governments are constrained by law and restrained by courts and voters is the best form of government.

What about a democracy where the rights are retained by individuals and governments are constrained by law and restrained by courts and voters?

'Republic' is but the word you use for the concept "representative democracy", and it still falls within the general scope of the word "democracy", same as Stalinism and Maoism both fall under the general scope of the word "communism".

You seem to be contrastic "Republic" to some sort of absolutist democracy where there's no limit whatsoever to the people's decisions -- but that's disingenuous because the question of limits to the state's power is a completely separate one from whether it's a Republic or a Democracy that wields said power.

Please check out these links here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic

--

Am expecting people to start calling me a troll again, simply on the basis of my disagreeing with them.

Cheers.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 02/15/2004 11:58 Comments || Top||

#9  'Republic' is but the word you use for the concept "representative democracy",

fair enough. Hardly what I'd call a disagreement though. More like splitting hairs.
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||

#10  As I've mentioned before, we often use the word "democracy" as shorthand for "system guaranteeing individual liberty." Unless the rights of the individual are guaranteed you can have all the "democracy" you want and you still end up with Pakistan or Venezuela or 1933-model Germany or Iran.
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 12:40 Comments || Top||

#11  "system guaranteeing individual liberty"
and property.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 13:00 Comments || Top||

#12  Splitting Hares? You leave those bunnies alone you evil man! I ought'a........(What? ... Oh.) Never mind.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 02/15/2004 13:50 Comments || Top||

#13  Lincoln said it best:
"government of the people, by the people, for the people"
Posted by: Spot || 02/15/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#14  I agree with Old Spook on this. Democracies (pure types especially), 'only last as long as it takes for the general populace to learn that they can vote themselves their nations largesse'

(No I don't remember who said that quote but what it means is that in a true democracy the population can vote to give themselves the monies in the treasury)
Posted by: Valentine || 02/15/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#15  Valentine - Robert Heinlein, Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven are the most known for having said it in recent days.

The Founding Fathers in America often mentioned it in so many words, summing it up as "people have the government they deserve, by their own actions."

Ed Becerra
Posted by: Ed Becerra || 02/15/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||

#16  I offended some - apologies. Now I'll explain in detail. This guy wins the All-Time Drama Queen Award -- with Chicken Little Clusters. I've never done a formal fisking, before, but I'll give it a try. I read this article very very carefully several times - and few pieces have offended me more. Where an AlQ website is openly hateful and adversarial, this jerk is not even remotely so honest. Read it carefully - everything is spun negatively with a barely-hidden underlying desperate desire for US failure. It is a beautiful piece of Donk propaganda. His words are meant to dishearten and to erode support for the current US administration's policies and actions. His agenda is the internationalist agenda, pure and simple.

How do you build up democracy in Iraq when it’s falling apart in the United States? Well, that is perhaps an overstatement, but the appearance is father to the fact on most of this planet. Our own prime minister seemed utterly secure until the Auditor General’s report landed on Tuesday. The American President was in fairly good shape until David Kay reported back on Iraqi WMD. John Kerry was a shoe-in for the Democrat leadership until the Drudge Report got its scoop on Thursday.
No perhaps about it: excess over-the-top drama and misinformation. Classic courtroom tactic - say the wildly extreme, then withdraw it half-heartedly - setting the stage and the tone for what follows to sound reasonable (comparatively) when it actually is unfounded and speculative. He repeats this pattern in almost every paragraph. The American Constitutional Republic is not falling apart. There is ZERO evidence to support the wild-eyed use of the words. Openness and public disclosure and public debate are precisely what our form of open democracy is all about. Drama Queen / Lawyer.

And at a deeper level, the most basic questions about our political and constitutional orders are now going before the courts, as the "culture wars" between left and right, libertarian and conservative, pull apart what remains of the social consensus that makes parliamentary democracy possible. One cannot help but sense this in the tone of recrimination between Clintonian Democrats and Bushite Republicans south of our border: each viscerally hates almost everything the other stands for, and may be prepared to forget their most fundamental common interests in pursuit of each other’s demise.
Culture wars - excess drama, again. Once again, this is precisely how and what an open system does - issues are ALWAYS before the courts. Always have been and always will be -- where's the crisis implied??? There is no abiding social consensus - it is always in motion. Open systems allow for open debate and afterwards the losing side of the argument moderates the winning side - yielding the new consensus. The current rancor is deep, but it has been the case numerous times before in US history and is not unique or life-threatening to the Republic. One of the hallmarks of an unjustifiably extreme position is its persistence after defeat in the debate process. Look at history and you find that sensible people fall away from such an untenable stance - leaving the core embittered that evolve into social jokes - a very effective societal teaching / moderating mechanism for it is a label only a fool would want to wear. It teaches moderation is preferable to ridicule. This paragraph is utterly speculative and grossly over-stated to anyone who isn't holding one of the extreme positions described. Parliamentary democracy is a voting process on binary questions, up or down, precisely how does he think it is being torn asunder? Drama Queen.

But to stay on topic, President Bush’s bold, and so far remarkably successful essay in changing the whole Middle Eastern order, so that it ceases to offer an external threat, has depended upon his own relative political security. He has been able to rely until recently on solid domestic support and trust, and on that was built the world’s perception that American power is irresistible. But now the world sees a President Bush whom it thinks may be, in political terms, mortally wounded.
Bush has, indeed, been bold in his policies, but all US Presidents face precisely the same issue of bringing the people on-board - and bold changes require more time for the public to accustom themselves to the new ideas. The rest is his political view - and his secret hope for failure - stated as if it's a brilliant insight into a fact never before revealed. Drama Queen.

One of the many immediate repercussions is in Iraq, where the prestige the U.S. requires to force various Iraqi factions into agreement on a way to conduct elections, or even a way to avoid a terrorist-triggered civil war, is ebbing quickly.
In Iraq, US prestige is not the issue. Force, and the fear of, is the issue when Arabs cooperation is the goal. If one wishes to talk about prestige, fine - who has more? No one. The possible consequences include his speculations (and his secret hopes, again) but this situation is unique and the CA will deal with each obstacle as it can and when it appears. The notion, which he obviously subscribes to here for it implies failure has already occurred in dramatic style, that everything must be planned out and foreseen with crystal clarity in advance is idiotic. Seers and oracles have been thin on the ground for thousands of years. The CA is attempting to bring a society several hundred years along the path of progress - and so far they've had less than 1 year from first shot fired. I'd suggest that there are some absurd expectations afoot in his view. Ebbing quickly - and his measuring device and its accuracy are? Cut some slack to the people who are on the ground doing the job. They will, just as everyone does when faced with a fluid situation, find their way through in stepwise fashion - sans oracular perfection. The ONLY thing that can actually stop Iraq from being a success is the same as with all significant endeavors: for the American public to lose heart. This guy seems fully determined to see that come about by fear-mongering everything he can lay hands upon. Fuck him by ignoring him. Classic back-seat nay-sayer and voyeur-critic Drama Queen.

The transience of political power in a democratic order is what makes it so attractive in every situation except that of mortal external danger. Faced with a huge post-9/11 threat, and shocked by the events which announced it, the U.S. responded boldly; but with a consensus that is now wearing off. The long-term strategy on which Mr. Bush embarked -- to deal with terrorism’s "root causes" in the ideological turmoil of the Middle East -- is being reviewed in the light of short-term political exigencies, with babies and bathwater swirling about.
I prefer our form of democratic order 100% of the time. It has weathered everything faced for 200+ years, including some very serious external threats. It is slow to react - and that is a moderating influence which helps prevent over-reaction. His desperation to convince the reader that there is a waning consensus is execrable and offensive and his allusions to babies and bath water, et al, is once again indicative of his hope for failure, not a statement of fact. Drama Baby Queen.

Mr. Bush’s sudden decline in support may be more apparent than real. A look into the numbers reveals that while John Kerry may be ahead of him for the moment in polls, the Bush support is more solid and certain. And the Internet convulsion over Mr. Kerry’s alleged sex life this week has undermined his own candidacy. But the primaries have shown one trend clearly: that whoever emerges atop the Democrat ticket, he will be trying to ride the very American pendulum that is now swinging back from internationalism to isolationism, as Americans ask themselves, "What have we got into?"
This is an election year. The incumbent party, basically out of the news, ALWAYS falls in the polls because the other party dominates the news. With Kerry's dramatic successes (over such a group of losers, it's not hard to figure why) has made him look strong and helped immensely by the press which favors him by the default editorial agenda. The one thing he gets right is that Bush support is solid and based upon his performance in The Big Chair - and Kerry's is momentum-based news reporting. Then he re-inserts his private agenda: internationalism and reining in the rogue US. Americans are asking many things, but "what have we got into?" is only coming from one of the extreme positions, the Looney Left -- the rest of us have been paying far better attention. Here he reveals his true private agenda openly, for the first time, without subterfuge or speculation or fear-mongering allusions. He's Chirac's buddy, not mine.

It is because the Bush administration has succeeded (whether through luck, or action, or some lucky action) in preventing a repeat of the 9/11 massacres, that the American public is beginning to forget why it is fighting abroad. The danger in forgetting is very large -- for as a direct result of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, they may not have found huge stockpiles of "WMD" on location, but have a much better idea of the extent of proliferation elsewhere. Only a very tough-minded and assertive, internationalist U.S. can continue to make progress.
This is a beautiful attempt to insert his private agenda into a scenario for success. He disparages Bush and implies our efforts haven't paid off - it was all just dumb luck. Fuck him. He suggests that Americans have switched off and are lulled by success into dangerous slumber. Fuck him. He accepts the obvious regards proliferation, but ascribes it not to US policy and efforts, but lets the reader subconsciously believe it's just more dumb luck. Fuck him. The last sentence reads much more factually sans the word "internationalist" - and he presents zero logic or substantiation for having inserted it. I guess it is his notion to imply that it will fill in the gaps when our dumb luck runs out. This entire paragraph is pure opinion and disingenuous outrageous bullshit. Fuck him.

Perhaps the good news in the war on terror is that the other side has no idea how to exploit the chaos of an election year: you have to be familiar with democracy yourself to grasp the possibilities. The bad news is that the first priority of "terror international" through November will be to get rid of Bush -- their most lethal single enemy.
I agree with every word. Finally, he left out his private bullshit and relied upon observable fact and logic.

The last paragraph is truly loaded, so one sentence at a time...

This means the security of the United States and the West depends in the interim on the responsibility of the U.S. Democrat Party.
And where, pray tell, did this come from? Where has he made a case for such an outrageous statement? Nowhere. Total fabrication out of his thinly veiled private agenda: get rid of Bush by supporting the Donks and then, with the tough-minded Bush out of the way, restrain the US with the UN leash.

It must have the wisdom to allow domestic politics to end at America’s shores; and it must make clear to the world beyond those shores that, if it wins power, it will be every bit as stalwart and, when necessary, unilateral in defending U.S. interests as the Bush administration has been.
He uses Bush as an icon of toughness - correct, but then goes on to whack the Donks with it. His agenda now imposed upon the Donks: I want you to win, but if you do you have to keep defending the internationalist community which has disarmed in order to pay for our socialist programs. It will be okay for you to act unilaterally to defend US interests (Gee, thanks!) because we couldn't do anything even if we wanted to - we're fucking helpless. Wow, this is some beautiful shit. Brought tears to my eyes.

If, as in Vietnam, they think they can win, by making sure that the United States loses, then Iraq won’t prove another Vietnam. It will be much worse.
WTF? This wild-eyed bit of absurdity raises the specter of the boogie-man Vietnam - oooohhh... but I love the wildly goofy logic: If "they" believe they win by making sure the US loses (in a binary system... oh never mind) then this will be a catastrophe greater than Vietnam - er, I think. Certainly not clearly written, but obviously laden with doom and gloom and, ooooooohhh, Vietnam! Beware! Run away! Run away!

Fuck him. This is a unique situation. It is not some old tape and we are not re-running it and making the same responses / mistakes. We don't have the same leadership (Thank Mother Nature there was only ONE LBJ / McNamara debacle team) and we don't have the same military and we don't have the same opponent and we are not the same people, now.

We have no choice in this. We were attacked. We will continue to be attacked if we do not take the fight to the enemy. These observable facts were seen and addressed in a broad re-think of US policy by Bush. It is a work in progress. Those who wish to derail Bush from this task are pulling out all the stops. David Warren has clearly identified himself as one of them. He is arm-in-arm with Soros, Chirac, Schroeder, Annan, and all of our other erstwhile / fair weather allies. His agenda focuses not on the WoT or the health of the US or even the well-being of the world -- it is focused on getting rid of Bush so the internationalists can more easily constrain the US and negate the policies that Bush has implemented that do not put them at the helm. It is interference in US domestic politics. Fuck him.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 16:45 Comments || Top||

#17  A couple of observations. The premise that democracies require consensus is false. Democracy is a mechanism to mediate a lack of consensus. If you had consensus, you wouldn't need democracy.

For well over a generation the mass media has projected a false consensus. The Internet is now demonstrating that the consensus was false. Blogs like RB can take the news, strip out the spin and add their own spin. Profound differences that had been concealed are now revealed. Many people have very different world views. They are now out in the open. At the end of the day I believe the best ideas will win, but at the moment the Left is deeply unhappy that their manufactured consensus is being swept away in a torrent of different viewpoints.

I am a techno-optimist and see a new Enlightenment in the making, and the article above is just an example of the old priestly classes trying to make sense of processes they don't understand.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||

#18  Great analyis of David Warren's essay,.com. I'm sure that tipper and Madam Hansen are satisfied with the detail.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 22:41 Comments || Top||

#19  .com

I think you are misreading this. Warren is pretty conservative and pro-Bush's WoT policy. I think what he's saying is that America's electoral process threatens the future of the WoT because he recognizes that a Bush loss would be a win for the terrorists and their appeasing allies (France, Howard Dean, John Kerry?, etc.). If anything, he is imploring the Dems to be sensible about foreign policy in the event that Bush loses in November (it ain't gonna happen, BTW).
Posted by: Tibor || 02/15/2004 23:43 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Army Intelligence Gathering Upsets Islamic Moonbats at University of Texas
EFL & Moonbattery
University of Texas liberal law students and professors are questioning the actions of two very good Army intelligence agents who roamed the school halls Monday looking for a roster of attendees at a recent conference on Islamic law and sexism.
If you have nothing to hide, then why the concern over a couple of America’s finest doing some window-shopping?
The agents left without the roster, and the U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command says it is investigating the incident.
They were doing thier job. Move along. Nothing to investigate.
Jessica Biddle, a third-year law student from Houston, was questioned by Special Agent Jason Treesh in the office of the Texas Journal of Women and the Law, where she is co-editor. The journal had donated money for the conference and reserved a courtroom at the law school for the Feb. 4 event.
Not a bad place to start: follow the money.
"I thought it was outrageous. He was asking questions intimidating and was using the element of surprise to try to get information out of us, which was wholly inappropriate," Biddle said. "The conference was an academic conference, totally benign and not focused on foreign policy."
That’s what they all say!
Aziz, an Arab-American who grew up in Dallas, said she was still on campus Monday when she began getting phone messages from friends at the law school that military intelligence officers were looking for her. "I was flustered and suffered a lot of anxiety that they would come to my house that night," said Aziz. "I kept wracking my brain, `Did anything happen at the conference?’"
‘Did anything happen at the conference?’ ...Well that’s what they were there to see, no? Why the panic attack dear?
Aziz said she’s nervous saddened that the incident may reinforce some people’s suspicions of terrorists Muslims that arose after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. And, she said it may foster distrust among Muslims of the U.S. government.
Fred...good to see some of your counterparts are on the job!
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 02/15/2004 7:00:54 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I thought it was outrageous. He was asking questions intimidating and was using the element of surprise to try to get information out of us, which was wholly inappropriate,"

Isn't that what freaking lawyers try to do to everybody else. Turnabout is fair play I always say
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Ooohhh, so skeery! Hold me Jessica! You too, Sahar (Aziz)! Closer! Even closer! Lol! Okay, now you put your ankle here and you put your head there and... Yeah, that's the ticket!

These people are, per the fear-mongering academia script, playing out their outraged LLL parts, just as the Army Intel is doing its job. Melike what the intel guys are doing.

Profiling = good sense. When we are attacked by the Anasazi or the Atlanteans, they will get interviewed, as well. Thanks, guys.

Meanwhile, Muslims, you can choose to cooperate with the Gov't's logical attempts to gather intel and protect America - or not. Cooperation will get you an interview and honesty in it will get you a clean bill of health. Not cooperating or being dishonest will get you a proctology exam. So many choices! 'tards.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 19:16 Comments || Top||

#3  "I thought it was outrageous. He was asking questions intimidating and was using the element of surprise to try to get information out of us, which was wholly inappropriate," Biddle said.

Oh my GOD!!. They held a gun on you?!?!

They didn't?

They had supoenas?

They didn't?

Then kindly explain to the rest of us non-elites how two soldiers sworn to uphold the Constitution intimidated you.

And by the way dearie; It was Muslims who used the element of surprise on 3,000 of your fellow American citizens. I wouldn't use the word surprise with reference to simple questions.
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 19:30 Comments || Top||

#4  The intelligence agents should pose as journalists. I bet these fine people who have nothing to hide whatsoever would only be too glad to blab every detail and spell every name to a friendly reporter-type who wants to spread the word of how wonderful and fair Islamic law is.

For bonus points, tell 'em you're a Beeb reporter. I guarantee they won't shut up.
Posted by: Dar || 02/15/2004 19:51 Comments || Top||

#5  The intelligence agents should pose as journalists.

Unless Bush has changed things, that would be illegal. Apparently reporters are so critically important to the future of civilization, only terrorists and the enemies of the US are allowed to impersonate them.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/15/2004 20:39 Comments || Top||


George W. Bush -- grand strategist
Too good to edit. It’s no wonder that the Democrats are having a hissy fit. It could have been "our" war. But no, the Republicans had to ruin it.
By Tony Blankley
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Boston Globe — the respected, liberal newspaper owned by the New York Times — ran an article last week that Bush critics may wish to read carefully. It is a report on a new book that argues that President Bush has developed and is ably implementing only the third American grand strategy in our history. The author of this book, "Surprise, Security, and the American Experience" (Harvard Press) to be released in March, is John Lewis Gaddis, the Robert A. Lovett professor of military and naval history at Yale University. The Boston Globe describes Mr. Gaddis as "the dean of Cold War studies and one of the nation’s most eminent diplomatic historians." In other words, this is not some put-up job by an obscure right-wing author. This comes from the pinnacle of the liberal Ivy League academic establishment.

If you hate George W. Bush, you will hate this Boston Globe story because it makes a strong case that Mr. Bush stands in a select category with presidents Franklin Delano Roosevelt and James Monroe (as guided by his secretary of state, John Quincy Adams) in implementing one of only three grand strategies of American foreign policy in our two-century history. As the Globe article describes in an interview with Mr. Gaddis: "Grand strategy is the blueprint from which policy follows. It envisions a country’s mission, defines its interests, and sets its priorities. Part of grand strategy’s grandeur lies in its durability: A single grand strategy can shape decades, even centuries of policy."

According to this analysis, the first grand strategy by Monroe/Adams followed the British invasion of Washington and the burning of the White House in 1814. They responded to that threat by developing a policy of gaining future security through territorial expansion — filling power vacuums with American pioneers before hostile powers could get in. That strategy lasted throughout the 19th and the early 20th centuries, and accounts for our continental size and historic security. FDR’s plans for the post-World War II period were the second grand strategy and gained American security by establishing free markets and self-determination in Europe as a safeguard against future European wars, while creating the United Nations and related agencies to help us manage the rest of the world and contain the Soviets. The end of the Cold War changed that and led, according to Mr. Gaddis, to President Clinton’s assumption that a new grand strategy was not needed because globalization and democratization were inevitable. "Clinton said as much at one point. I think that was shallow. I think they were asleep at the switch," Mr. Gaddis observed.

That brings the professor to George W.Bush, who he describes as undergoing "one of the most surprising transformations of an underrated national leader since Prince Hal became Henry V." Clearly, Mr. Gaddis has not been a long-time admirer of Mr. Bush. But he is now. He observes that Mr. Bush "undertook a decisive and courageous reassessment of American grand strategy following the shock of the 9/11 attacks. At his doctrine’s center, Bush placed the democratization of the Middle East and the urgent need to prevent terrorists and rogue states from getting nuclear weapons. Bush also boldly rejected the constraints of an outmoded international system that was really nothing more that a snapshot of the configuration of power that existed in 1945."

It is worth noting that John Kerry and the other Democrats’ central criticism of Mr. Bush — the prosaic argument that he should have taken no action without U.N. approval — is rejected by Mr. Gaddis as being a proposed policy that would be constrained by an "outmoded international system." In assessing Mr. Bush’s progress to date, the Boston Globe quotes Mr. Gaddis: "So far the military action in Iraq has produced a modest improvement in American and global economic conditions; an intensified dialogue within the Arab world about political reform; a withdrawal of American forces from Saudi Arabia; and an increasing nervousness on the part of the Syrian and Iranian governments as they contemplated the consequences of being surrounded by American clients or surrogates. The United States has emerged as a more powerful and purposeful actor within the international system than it had been on September 11, 2001."

In another recent article, written before the Iraqi war, Mr. Gaddis wrote: "[Bush’s] grand strategy is actually looking toward the culmination of the Wilsonian project of a world safe for Democracy, even in the Middle East. And this long-term dimension of it, it seems to me, goes beyond what we’ve seen in the thinking of more recent administrations. It is more characteristic of the kind of thinking, say, that the Truman administration was doing at the beginning of the Cold War." Is Mr. Bush becoming an historic world leader in the same category as FDR, as the eminent Ivy League professor argues? Or is he just a lying nitwit, as the eminent Democratic Party Chairman and Clinton fund-raiser Terry McAuliffe argues? I suspect that as this election year progresses, that may end up being the decisive debate. You can put me on the side of the professor.
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#1  I certainly don't have Gaddis' scholarly background and ability to weave what Bush & Co (I think the entire team must be credited) have done into a grand historical picture, but simple intuition has led me to the same conclusion (blind dumb luck? mebbe...heh) about Bush.

What I have personally learned about Islam, Arabs, terrorism, and the whole lot of variables involved led me to eat crow regards Bush. Before his dramatic course change to engage terrorism, I was not a supporter. But when faced with the dire threat evidenced by the evil deeds from African embassies to the USS Cole to the WTC, Bush suddenly grew to fill the shoes and respond forcefully and in ways that made me incredibly proud to be an American, again.

Beyond the initial responses were the amazing policy changes which address the real root causes, sans the "Why do they hate us?" simplicity and idiocy. To say I have been impressed with Bush's Foreign Policy is a complete understatement.

Having people such as Gaddis publicly confirm with reams of research and decades of knowledge what regular folks such as myself understood through mere intuition is quite a boon. I am extremely grateful he (and others) have publicly stated their views - and rebuked the otherwise LLL world of academia. Bravo, Dr - long life to you! And thanx, big time!
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 17:46 Comments || Top||

#2  My transformation from lifelong Democrat to "broken-glass Republican" took place during the run-up to the 2000 presidential election, so I was not inclined to be terribly skeptical of Bush before 9/11; yet he has managed to exceed my expectations, too.

Certainly, the attacks on 9/11 ought to have forced a complete, hard-nosed reassessment of our entire foreign policy: of what our place and posture in the world should be; of our willingness to entrust our safety to corrupt, ineffective international institutions like the UN; and of what the term "ally" has meant in the past and what it must mean in the future.

It also ought to have forced an equally drastic reassessment of our approach to dealing with the threat of Islam's more radical, totalitarian strains; with the threat of nuclear proliferation among repressive third-world regimes, warlords and terrorist groups; and with the Arab/Palestinian/Israeli conflict.

The Bush administration seems to have undertaken that reassessment, and taken it seriously.

Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has not, and it seems unwilling to part with its shopworn, cherished notions of feel-good, warm 'n fuzzy internationalism.

The only Democrat I possibly could have voted for was Lieberman (not that I would have, with Bush as the incumbent); God help us if Kerry is elected.
Posted by: Dave D. || 02/15/2004 18:23 Comments || Top||

#3  I do not think much of GW from an intelectual POV. I get as much charge as any body else from the stories about the GWB Library losing half its volumes to a fire when they lost the Archie and Jughead comic book. But that said GWB does seem to know what is right and what the f**k is wrong. For being a "unilateralist" and a "non-respector of international law" just why did he go to the UN twice in late winter 2003. Why has he continually tried( and succeeded mostly) to engage other countries in the WOT. Because he recongnizes as most of us here do that the WOT is the defense of civilization itself.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 19:25 Comments || Top||

#4  What worries me is that although .com and Dave D. have decided the democrat party do not have good answers to the WOT, how many people out there do not research, read, and disgest the information available on the internet like Rantburg, Powerline, and all the other good blogs. Few, I am afraid. I hear too many of my students and colleagues who talk as if they know everything and think GW is doing a bad job on the WOT and when questioned can not give me specifics.

The other thing is this thing about GW not being intellectual. Often intellegence is mistaken for being able to speak in flowing terms and with a big vocabulary. I like to tell my students about how when I graduated from college I didn't have a lick of common sense. Lots of book knowledge but no knowledge of how the world really runs. It took the college of hard knocks to instill some of that in me. I think GW has a lot more going in the intellegence area than many assume.
Posted by: AF Lady || 02/15/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||

#5  AF Lady - excellent points. I, too, am very worried about November. I know that the real danger for us is to assume anything. If the Donks want to be fools and assume that, "Hey, it's obvious that 'Bush Lied!' - I see it, so everyone else sees it too!" - that's great. I don't want to be so blind or such a sucker!

Re: Bush intelligence
I once responded (long ago, now) to liberalhawk that I had seen people like Bush in action in the private sector. Unusually charismatic CEO's who didn't know squat about the details of the business, but were wizards on the big picture and the implications and seeing years down the road. They were very smart: they hired great detail people to surround them and then delegated full authority and responsibility (unusual to get the auth to go with the deliverables expected, heh) and left it to these lieutenants to make shit happen. These companies were all, at least in my experience, incredibly successful. I think it was due to zero micromanagement / second guessing and having a pro in each area of expertise in charge with full power to make success happen.

So, as I came to realize, Bush was on-target, had organized the right people into a team, and had given them the big picture result he expected - then turned them loose to do it. I've eaten a lot of personal crow about him - and quite happily, too. I've even gotten used to the "nyukyuler" thing, though my inner English-major still cringes a bit. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 20:21 Comments || Top||

#6  There are lots of old guys at Harvard who have seen their "day in the sun" years ago. They were once great, made it to Harvard, fully tenured, professored, etc. THEN, they publish un-scientific high-brow trash, as I suspect this book is. (Remember the Bell Curve?? Pure trash.) Unfortunately, it takes scientists and historians years to undo the damage.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 20:27 Comments || Top||

#7  There are lots of old guys at Harvard who have seen their "day in the sun" years ago. They were once great, made it to Harvard, fully tenured, professored, etc. THEN, they publish un-scientific high-brow trash, as I suspect this book is. (Remember the Bell Curve?? Pure trash.) Unfortunately, it takes scientists and historians years to undo the damage.

Gaddis is too old, eh? Isn't ageist prejudice against liberal principles? As usual, the liberal left criticizes the color of the wallpaper instead of looking at the argument on its merits. No real surprises here - if you had to look at liberal arguments on their merits, they would be tossed out with the trash. The Bell Curve is pure trash? If all liberals have left is bilious putdowns, they should get out of political analysis and get into showbusiness.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/15/2004 21:40 Comments || Top||

#8  George Bush was bushwhacked on 9/11. Fortunately for the world, his first response was to find out what happened, who did what, and where things originated, rather than lashing out. He then used the exceptional talent he'd surrounded himself with to craft a response, not only to the attacks but to the fundamentals behind them. There's still a major battle to fight - he's got to take control of the State Department, and have it work for HIM, rather than the United Nations. That may require some very unethical housecleaning before it's all over. I had hoped Powell would be up to the task - he wasn't. It's time to give State to someone with the bare-knuckle power to take on the diplomatic doomsayers and kick them back into the Potomac swamp they crawled out of.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 22:03 Comments || Top||

#9  There are lots of old guys at Harvard who have seen their "day in the sun" years ago. They were once great, made it to Harvard, fully tenured, professored, etc. THEN, they publish un-scientific high-brow trash, as I suspect this book is. (Remember the Bell Curve?? Pure trash.) Unfortunately, it takes scientists and historians years to undo the damage.

I've seen this alot in my years in academia. If someone previously liberal comes out against something they believe in that person is instantly made to be old, out-of-touch, or (my favorite) never really a liberal to begin with. Whatever happened to age bringing wisdom?

Old Patriot I agree with your assessment on State. Part of the problem is the career holdovers. They definitely need to be cleaned out.
Posted by: AF Lady || 02/15/2004 22:35 Comments || Top||

#10  The Bell Curve is pure trash? Give examples, please.
Posted by: Les Nessman || 02/15/2004 23:22 Comments || Top||

#11  "Get a breath of that country air, breath the bueaty of it evrywhere."
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 23:47 Comments || Top||


Four Moslems from Canada Visit NYC on Sep 6, 2001
Umran, Yussuf, Ismael and Faisel gathered in Cedar’s Coffee Shop one evening with little to do except for being creative and naive. They were so attached to each other, they often wondered if they were conceived at the same spark of a second. Beyond that, they really believed their genetic traits came from the same parents centuries ago. Their graduation scripts were amazing: Umran received his certificate in chemistry, while Yussuf got his in physics. Ismael scored the highest average in journalism in his graduation year. Faisal, on the other hand, became a professor of psychiatry. For nearly seven years after they graduated, they were not able to find employments to meet their qualification.... They decided to move to the big city, Toronto. .... The first thing they looked for was a single room. They could not afford to rent an apartment. ... A room was found in an old rooming house on 1256 Bay Street. The rooming house was owned by a Syrian who sympathized with the quartets and allowed them to share the single room. ....

Luckily they found odd jobs shortly after they arrived in Toronto. .... Four years passed, they were still struggling and earning basic living from doing casual and part time work. On September 11, 1976, they met Salaheddine Al-Ibrahimi, a businessman who came to Canada right after the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Salaheddine earned a name for his architecture design of Public Galleries and Museums. He built an empire of reputation and wealth in Toronto. .... Salaheddine heard the quartets’ story and was overwhelmed by their courage, patience and humbleness for accepting the fate that brought them to Canada. He was particularly impressed by the human duty they performed in Ottawa at a time when they did not have the means and resources to do so. Salaeddine quickly incorporated a community paper in the format of a tabloid and placed Ismael in charge. He advanced Yussuf, Umran and Faisel with $5,000.00 each to get settled in a decent apartment while they sought work in their fields. It took Yussuf several months before he landed a job at the University of Toronto as an assistant professor in physics. Umran was hired by Ghalib’s Medical Research Foundation as a chemistry scientist. Faisal took a post at Westmount University of Toronto as a professor of psychiatry. ... All four got married and raised a family. 35 years passed, the quartets were still living in Toronto and active in their work.

On September 5, 2001, they .... decide[d] to drive to New York. They had never been to New York before. The following morning at 9:30 A.M. they left Toronto and arrived in New York six hours later. Before they were able to check in a hotel, they were apprehended by six teenagers and rubbed [sic]. They were too old to fight like they did when they lived in Ottawa. They called the local police and reported what happened. The police requested they come to the station for further details. They remained in the police station for nearly three hours, until the officer who brought them to the station informed them that they cannot leave the station until further notice. They were investigated by the New York Police Department on information retrieved from an old computer file. Their names appeared on an FBI list without much description other than, “armless and dangerous [sic].” The quartets were baffled by the alleged accusation. They knew they did no wrong and were never involved in any criminal activities whatsoever.

They were detained until September 11, 2001, and then turned over to the CIA. September 11 attack on Washington and New York complicated their case. They ended in a U.S. military prison. Many months passed, the quartets were not able to seek council or contact their families. The Canadian government was not able to obtain any news other than the U.S. military for terrorist activities detained them. Two years have passed; their names appeared on a list of 680 prisoners obtained by the Red Cross at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. military prison that was known for its harsh and inhuman condition. Quantanamo Bay Prison ranks several notches above Hitler’s concentration camps. The quartets remain in this prison to this day without being able to seek council or contact their loved ones.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 9:42:57 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Before they were able to check in a hotel, they were apprehended by six teenagers and rubbed"?
Posted by: NCC || 02/15/2004 9:56 Comments || Top||

#2  the U.S. military prison that was known for its harsh and inhuman condition

Where the prisoners put on weight and learn English...
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 02/15/2004 10:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Incredible case of bad timing or.....?

Jihadunspun spinning?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 10:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Mike Sylwester: Two years have passed; their names appeared on a list of 680 prisoners obtained by the Red Cross at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. military prison that was known for its harsh and inhuman condition. Quantanamo Bay Prison ranks several notches above Hitler’s concentration camps.

Let me recount the differences. (Not that I should have to - bin Laden's cohorts deserve to be tortured to death, slowly).

(1) In Hitler's concentration camps, inmates were worked to death. To my knowledge, no Gitmo inmate has died from overwork - actually, they don't do any work.
(2) In Hitler's concentration camps, inmates used to starve to death, by design, because of starvation rations. To my knowledge, most Gitmo inmates have gained weight from the culturally-sensitive gourmet meals they're serving there.
(3) In Hitler's concentration camps, inmates were gassed and cremated once they had reached the end of their useful lives - i.e. they were unable to continue working, because of sickness or crippling workplace injuries. To my knowledge, no Gitmo inmate has been gassed and cremated.

How is it that jihadis are able to lie so effortlessly and without compunction? Because the Koran says that to lie to infidels is no sin. Jihadis have extended that even further - if they pre-classify Muslims who don't subscribe to their point of view as infidels, they can put out lies like the kind featured in Jihad Unspun to other Muslims as well.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/15/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#5  "Their names appeared on an FBI list without much description other than, “armless and dangerous.”?
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 02/15/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Faisal, on the other hand, became a professor of psychiatry

Little bastard stold another lab coast.
Posted by: Nuss Ratchett || 02/15/2004 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Zhang Fei: The article was written by Albert M. Jabara, identified as a Canadian poet and author. I reposted it from a website called "Jihad Unspun." I don't endorse Jabara's remark comparing the camps.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#8  Wait a minute, let me get this straight---these guys were apprehended in New York and wound up at Guantanamo?

Wasn't that the point of putting people in Guantanamo, so that they wouldn't be brought to the US where there would be more controversy on whether US civilian laws would apply?

Furthermore, I can't find any evidence of a Yussuf as a professor of physics at U. Toronto, nor could I find a "Westmount University" (or College) in Toronto, or a trace of Al-Ibrahimi as a famous architect.

My BS detector is beeping big-time. Is it broken?
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 02/15/2004 16:18 Comments || Top||

#9  nice piece of propaganda deposited here on rantburg.
if you were picked up in the US you would not be in Gitmo - maybe Anappolis but not Gitmo.
kinda funny how it jumps from 1976 to now..........
Posted by: Dan || 02/15/2004 22:13 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Al-Qaeda "board of managers" works from Iran
Osama bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda network has been restructured and has a "board of managers" in Iran, Spanish terror judge Baltasar Garzon told El Periodico daily Sunday. "This council has, on some issues, maintained positions critical of Osama bin Laden," said Garzon, who last September issued an international warrant for Bin Laden’s arrest in the framework of an inquiry into a Spanish Al-Qaeda cell. "Currently there is coordination, a series of objectives clearly established (by Al-Qaeda), but there is no need for an order for an act to be executed ... It’s diffused terrorism," said Garzon, who spends a third of his time as a judge on "terrorism linked to Islamic fundamentalism."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 6:48:31 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Still trying to kill Rushdie
An Iranian extremist Islamic group calling itself the General Staff for the Glorification of Martyrs of the Islamic World has offered a 100,000 dollar reward for the killing of British novelist Salman Rushdie.
I think that one can take the blue ribbon in the Most Self-Important Name category...
According to the hardline Jomhuri Eslami newspaper Sunday, the tiny and little-known group called on "all volunteer Muslims to sign up on its Internet site... to kill Salman Rushdie."
"Yes! He must be killed!... [Seeth!]... [Froth!]... [KABOOM!]
"The reward will be paid to anyone who kills Salman Rushdie or his family," the paper said, quoting a member of the group who also pledged the organisation’s facilities to help with the operation.
"... and his little dog, too!"
The new reward marked the anniversary of the fatwa, or religious edict, issued by Iran’s revolutionary founder, the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, on February 14, 1989 calling for Rushdie’s execution.
That's worked well so far, hasn't it? They've killed everybody else in sight, but still somehow haven't gotten around to him...
Under reformist President Mohammad Khatami, who was elected in 1997, Iran’s leadership has distanced itself from the order, but on Saturday, the 15th of Khordad Foundation -- ostensibly an Iranian charitable trust that had offered a three million dollar bounty -- issued a statement saying the fatwa was still valid.
Ho-hum. Another Islamic charity to add to the list. No telling what their name's going to be next week...
Posted by: TS || 02/15/2004 10:21:03 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Can we start up a charity to raise money to kill assholes like these ?
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Anon. This is a very logical and perhaps the most effective means to eliminate such threats.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 19:01 Comments || Top||


Social Life in the Islamic Republic of Iran
On a recent trip home to Tehran I was invited to a birthday party. When I arrived I found the 70 or so guests wearing fancy dress and dancing to the latest Western pop music.

The party goers were all young and from well-to-do families. One was dressed as Tarzan, another as a pilot from the film "Top Gun". Assorted "ayatollahs" and "mullahs" were whirling drunkenly under the strobe lights. A girl in a black chador, flung it off to reveal a skin-tight Cat Woman costume underneath.

In the middle of the fray, a waiter with a bow tie was trying to manoeuvre through the crowd, balancing a tray filled with glasses of wine, gin, vodka and whisky.

[....]

The hardliners had just banned hundreds of reformist MPs from taking part in the forthcoming parliamentary election. I asked one party-goer what he thought about it all. "Actually I’m more interested in trying to remember the words to Eminem’s latest song," he said, and launched into an impromptu version of "Lose Yourself".

At that moment there was a knock on the door. It was the Revolutionary Guards, wanting to know why there were so many cars in the street. I was terrified, but needn’t have worried. One of the party guests, dressed as a mullah, told them it was a religious gathering and slipped them some money to leave us alone. They did, but as the party continued I wondered what it said about the state of the revolution. Who was the more cynical - the Islamic vigilantes who took the money, or the fancy dress cleric who offered it?
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 9:26:10 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hmm. Hypocrisy and corruption. Go figure...

Reminds me of the classic Blue Brothers scene:
Jake- How often does the train go by?
Elwood- So often you won’t even notice.
Posted by: Hyper || 02/15/2004 9:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, I think the sons and daughters of well-to-do families have carte blanche to violate the social standards of whatever country they come from. This might as well be an expose on the German Junkers of the 1890s. Also, the "journalist" seems to have a theme in mind which he wanted to write about before he even went to this party.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#3  I second Gromky's sentiments. The fact that Iran is corrupt is not news and should not be mistaken for impending revolution. If these kids ran into a RG they couldn't buy, they'd fall in line rather than rise up and foment real change. If we are fortunate enough to see Iran reform itself, it will be led be clerics like Khomeni jr. or fedup military officers, neither or whom will know the lyrics to Eminem songs. These kids will join in only when the matter is settled.
Posted by: JAB || 02/15/2004 19:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Ah, the Salam Pax's of Iran....
Posted by: Pappy || 02/15/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Rights Groups Call for Peace
Salad F. Duhul, Arab News
Somali human rights groups have urged the country’s warlords to restore peace and work toward a comprehensive reconciliation at the ongoing peace talks in Kenya, a statement issued by 13 rights groups said. The year-long talks aimed at bringing peace to Somalia are being attended by delegates from the armed factions, civil societies groups and other politicians. “Somali leaders should achieve a comprehensive reconciliation process at their ongoing peace talks in Kenya. The leaders should initiate the best way to salvage their countrymen from their militias. The Somalis are tired of continuous violence and fighting,” said the statement, a copy of which was received by Arab News.
There's enough shooting and killing going on just in the normal course of Somali society...
The statement urged Somalis to endorse the recent peace accord and stage peace rallies. Somali participants in the peace talks signed an accord on a transitional charter on Jan. 29. Under the accord, clan elders will select a parliament that will in turn elect a president. The president will appoint a prime minister and government to lead the country to polls after five years and oversee the writing of a new constitution. But 18 of the signatories said in a statement that the text of the accord was changed. “We kindly request the UN, African Union, Arab League, and East African body of Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD) to initiate a new way to deal with the warlords. Many times, the warlords rejected peace deals that they had signed. We also request the international community to provide adequate assistance to the needy, orphanages and health centers, despite the closure of Al-Haramain Foundation. The charity has been funding many humanitarian activities in the country,” said the statement.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/15/2004 21:32 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: North
Qaddafi Did Not Give Up His Nuclear Arsenal Because of Iraq
By Patrice Claude, Le Monde
Libya is not “for nothing” in the revelation of the great international atomic “black market” directed from Islamabad by the “father” of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, Abdul Qadeer Khan. Even before Colonel Muammar Khadafi decided to open up his arsenal to International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors in December 2003, “the Americans knew everything” Seïf Al-Islam Khadafi, son and presumed heir of the Libyan leader, asserts. “Our contribution to their knowledge of the subject was null. They had infiltrated the networks long ago,” he adds.
Is anybody but me having doubts that we don't know where the WMDs are? If we really, truly, don't know what's up with them, the CIA's Iraq section needs new management — brought in from the South Asia section or the WMD section.
It was in October 2003 that the fourth delivery to Libya of metal parts made in Malaysia and intended for the assembly of a modern centrifuge — indispensable to the production of Isotope 235, the essential component of an efficient nuclear bomb — was stopped in Italian waters by American security services. Some think that this boarding played a role in the spectacular aggiornamento taking place between Washington and Tripoli. Others- as President George Bush clearly allowed it to be understood January 20- prefer to believe that it’s the American invasion of Iraq that decided Colonel Khadafi to conclude his efforts with regard to weapons of mass destruction. “Nine months of intensive negotiations including the United States and Great Britain have succeeded- in Libya- where twelve years of diplomacy with Iraq failed,” the President asserted. “For diplomacy to work, words must be credible and no one may any longer doubt America’s word,” he added. In fact, the last negotiation session between Tripoli, London and Washington began in March 2003, several days before the American offensive in Iraq, and it was on December 19, a week after Saddam Hussein’s capture, that the Libyan “Guide” announced to the world that he was giving up all secret weapons programs.
Makes sense to me. We saw Muammar doing the turnaround here. He may have even wanted to before 9-11, but after that date he put them into high gear.
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/15/2004 21:27 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Iraq invasion might not have been the direct cause of the Libyan change of heart, but the the will we demonstrated in burning through the Euro/UN resistance must have helped bring matters to a head.

Also, if I were Libya, I would be getting the word out that 'they had us dead to rights, there was nothing we did to help them' rather than letting various nutbags in the region think that they are actively helping the Americans.

The truth seems to be that Libya gave us something that we did not previously have and did so because they respect and fear our 'cowboy' foreign policy. There is a reason they chose to go to the US/UK and not France.
Posted by: JAB || 02/15/2004 22:32 Comments || Top||

#2  The truth seems to be that Libya gave us something that we did not previously have and did so because they respect and fear our 'cowboy' foreign policy. There is a reason they chose to go to the US/UK and not France.

That is correct. Saddam had satisfied the French. Gaddafi learned from the Iraqi invasion that satisfying the French was not enough - he needed to satisfy the US that he was harmless.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/15/2004 23:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Very cool. You guys are sharp.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 23:39 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Sistani drawing up alternate proposals if direct elections impossible
Iraq’s powerful Shiite Muslim authority has drawn up alternative proposals should the United Nations formally judge that snap direct elections as demanded by its top cleric are impossible, a representative of Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani said. The alternative proposals, drawn up by the Marjaiya, the top clerical body for the country’s majority Shiites, cannot be unveiled now "since we are awaiting an answer from the United Nations," Sheikh Abdel Mahdi al-Karbalai told AFP in the holy Shiite city of Karbala, south of Baghdad.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 9:01:43 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The proof is in the proposals, but it will be a good thing for Iraqi leaders to take responsibility for planning the shape of their future. Real - but not unchecked or unaccountable - power tends to teach responsibility and moderation.

Big ifs .... but I give Bush & Bremer credit for keeping Sistani involved and indirectly sidelining Iran's Sadr, at least for now. The Shia have absorbed some insurgency attacks in holy places, a much slower reconstruction than they probably hoped (magic wands being in short supply this season) and Sistani seems to grasp the fact that if the Shias play their cards right they will indeed be the majority in power and not just in population.

We'll see ... lots of opportunity for things to go badly in the next 12 mos, but also for things to jell.
Posted by: rkb || 02/15/2004 22:21 Comments || Top||


Iraq asks neighboring states to check infiltration
EFL
Iraq’s interim leadership said it would work with neighbouring countries to curb infiltration by foreign fighters into the country, where a spate of attacks last week left some 130 people dead...
Good idea, but it might require some leverage.
In Kuwait City, Iraqi interim Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari told AFP he had asked his counterparts from neighboring states to help Iraq "in controlling the borders more effectively to prevent infiltrators and terrorist groups from sneaking into Iraq to carry out terrorist and criminal attacks." Zebari, speaking after a two-day meeting with his counterparts in Kuwait City, said bilateral security committees would be created "between Iraq on the one hand with Syria, Iran, Jordan, Turkey and maybe Saudi Arabia." But Syrian Foreign Minister Faruq al-Shara later denied that there were any infiltrators crossing from Syria into Iraq.
They’ve hired Sgt Schultz as head of border security. "I see nuzzing."
"There are no infiltrators from Syria, at all. Ask the Iraqi foreign minister," Shara told reporters after the Kuwait talks. "The responsibility for security inside Iraq is that of the occupation (authority) and not the responsibility of the neighbouring countries," he said.
Really? Want us to pull the infiltrators out at the roots? Better go back and think about that.
The US-led coalition and Iraqi officials have blamed foreign fighters infiltrating Iraq, notably from Syria, for a wave of deadly suicide attacks in the country. Two Lebanese were reportedly among four assailants killed when a group of insurgents attacked police and paramilitary bases Saturday in Fallujah, west of Baghdad.
But they didn't come through Syria. They teleported directly from Ein el-Hellhole Beirut...
The twin assaults sparked blistering battles that left 27 dead, including 23 policemen, and dozens wounded, and followed back-to-back bombings that killed 102 people earlier in the week. Bremer told the ABC news network that some of the attackers were believed to be foreign fighters, but police sources said the men had been identified as Fallujah residents....
In either case there’s some asskicking overdue.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 5:43:46 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The responsibility for security inside Iraq is that of the occupation (authority) and not the responsibility of the neighbouring countries," he said.

Oooh did he just give us permission to go into their country and take care of the infiltration problem? Why I think he did indeedy hehe.
Posted by: Valentine || 02/15/2004 18:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Heh, an FM, no less! He does need to be a bit more careful when talking to reporters... He may soon find himself out of a job and tossed back into the Hezbollah cannon fodder pool! Not that I'd lose any sleep over it...
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 19:23 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Former Taliban Members Returning to Normal Life
Zainulabuddin was one of many young Afghans who got caught up in the Taliban movement when the militia ruled most of the country from 1996 to late 2001. However, the 25-year-old says he has put his past firmly behind him. Zainulabuddin lives with his wife and child in the village of Chanjir in southern Helmand Province. He says he is satisfied with his new lifestyle and cannot dream of ever supporting the Taliban again. "We like the current government because this government does not put pressure on anyone. Factories and facilities are functioning, and roads are being built. It means this is a good government. Once the Taliban were gone, I resumed my schooling. After school, I work in my small store selling spare car parts," Zainulabuddin said.

.... Former Taliban fighters who have decided to take up civilian life do so quietly. Fearing prosecution and harassment, most of them try to remain silent about their pasts. While Afghan mujahedin -- factional fighters from anti-Taliban groups -- are offered retraining for civilian jobs under a special UN-sponsored program for disarmament, demilitarization, and rehabilitation, former members of the Taliban have no such support network and must fend for themselves. Mullah Mohammad Khaksar served as deputy interior minister for the ousted Taliban regime [and now says:] "I would say some 50 percent of the former Taliban have come back home and taken up civilian life. They are confident that no one will bother them. This optimism and their return is a result of the amnesty given by Afghanistan’s transitional president."

.... Ahmadullah, a fellow resident of Kandahar, [says:] "People do not support the Taliban because they don’t have good memories from Taliban leaders or the rest of the group. If Kandahar residents find out that a group of former Taliban fighters is based somewhere, I think 98 percent of people would help to detain the Taliban and hand them over to authorities," Ahmadullah said. Recently, some tribes in Afghanistan’s southern regions -- including the large and influential Zadran tribe -- decided that if any member of their tribe is found to be supporting the Taliban, his house will be set on fire and he will be expelled from his village.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 5:20:08 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Congratulations Zadranian tribe. For your wisdom. Thanks for telling go to hell to the destructive ugliest and siding with the constructive and helping people. You know, even the dirty capitalists can sell you nothing if you have no money. So, keep up with good works and you will prosper.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 18:15 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Dirty little secrets
I like this guy a lot. He’s a professor of political science at the University of Western Ontario. His column appears every Thursday in the Toronto Sun and other newspapers. BTW, this isn’t hard news so if the website master deems it fit to delete, please do so.
By SALIM MANSUR -- For the Toronto Sun
...But it was in the Middle East where nationalism fused with Islam into a political ideology - Islamism - whose effects have brought ruin to the region - and beyond. The dirty secret apologists for this tragedy in North America and elsewhere refuse to address is how Muslims have suffered as a result of Islamism, have been driven from their homes, tortured and killed across the Arab-Muslim world. There has been no systematic collection of this horrible data over the past five decades, but the numbers run into millions. It matters little within the larger context of the struggle for Islam’s soul whether Muslims have been primarily the victims of tyrannical authority in Muslim majority states, or of Islamists waging battles against corrupt power elites. No one in the Arab-Muslim world during this period exceeded the bloody-mindedness of Iraq’s fallen despot, Saddam Hussein, who blended a Nazi-type nationalism with his version of Islamism into a sheer hell for Iraqis. The world also witnessed many Islamists and Muslim apologists rallying to Saddam’s defence with contorted arguments of anti-imperialism in all of its variations.
I thought Saddam had his conversion to Islam only after the war started (and ended) with his taped calls for jihad. So I’m not sure what Saddam’s version is exactly.
The other dirty secret is the continuing victimization of Palestinians by many of their fellow Arabs, and of their being used as pawns in the war of Islamists against Jews and Israel. Neither Islam, nor Muslims, have any quarrel with Jews and Israel. The conflict between Palestinian Arabs and Israelis was, and remains, a nationalist contest over land. This contest could have been avoided, or settled at any time since the full reality of the Holocaust became known, if Arab Muslims in a position to lead had chosen to live by the principles of Islam.
A slight disagreement there. In many instances Islam itself is the problem, atleast the way I understand it. The best remedy in my opinion is secularism.
Instead, they opted for the German model of nationalism in opposing Jewish demands for a homeland in historic Palestine. Amin al-Husayni, the Mufti of Jerusalem, was the leader of the Palestinians during the years between the world wars of the last century. His embrace of the German fuehrer, Adolf Hitler, during World War II was not a whimsical choice.
I wonder who Arafat is embracing these days.
Islamists deliberately incorporated the racist doctrine of the Nazis into their thinking and politics, and brazenly propagated anti-Semitic literature as a tool in their war against the Jews and Israel. Consequently, the damage Islamists have done to the very legitimate grievances of Palestinians is immense. Moreover, many Muslims, in supporting Palestinian rights without repudiating the rabid anti-Semitism of the Islamists, have contributed to the undermining of Islam as a religion of peace and coexistence and sabotaged their moral authority to speak of justice in Palestine, or elsewhere.
You say "undermined," I say "destroyed." Let's call the whole thing off.
Now America has become involved in the heart of the Arab-Muslim world as never before. Ironically, or by providential design, the future of Islam and of Muslims if they are to be free of the fanaticism of the Islamists, is bound to America’s success in this war on terrorism.
That’s not an optimistic outlook since I don’t believe the war on terror is winnable. It’s like trying to defeat evil, but evil will always exist. The change has to come from within Islam itself, just like Christianity changed, but I don’t see that happening for a long time yet.
Posted by: Rafael || 02/15/2004 2:18:11 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rafael, I think the WOT is winnable, but I probably define victory entirely differently than you do. I define victory as the elimination of state sponsorship of terrorists and the recognition by all legitimate states that states sponsoring terrorism shall be international pariahs subject to isolation or intervention. To me victory also includes a trip through each substantial rogue state by a Coalition of willing rat exterminators such that a reaonable level of lasting vigilence shall enable the free people of the world to live without substantial fear of being the subject of a mass killing.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#2  The WoT deals with the short-term problem. The long-term problem is demographic. All of the world is undergoing population stablization EXCEPT the Muslim world and sub-Saharan Africa (compare India and Pakistan on this score). As long as Muslim women are kept in subjugation, birthrates will remain high. Couple this with economic stagnation, and you have millions of young men coming of age every years with no job prospects, and few marriage prospects either (it doesn't help that older, richer men get t have 4 wives). These frustrated young men make easy recruits for Islamismism -- and the fact that Islam itself makes no distinction betweeen religion, politics, and law makes it all the easier to brew up the evil tonic of terror. But how to handle "demographic jihad"? (the term, btw, is Robert Spencer's). Any ideas?
Posted by: closet neo-con || 02/15/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#3  Excellent points, folks. The common factor, which the article author dismisses as root cause without sufficient argument to support doing so is, of course, Islam. In practice, and this means well-researched Islamic text is almost irrelevant, the Muslims (some say Islamists - I find no such distinction in actual practice) can and do justify anything they want. The facts of Islam's clear directions to Muslims to subjugate all others to Islam is the core issue.

How can Islam peacefully coexist with any other ideology or faith when:

1) Muslims are forsworn from even friendship with non-Muslims

2) Muslims are directed to consider themselves Muslims first and always - no other affiliation (nationality, etc) matters

3) Muslims are directed to subjugate, "as cattle", all others until they "fill the world"

4) Muslims have few restrictions upon how they achieve this in their dealings with non-Muslims - and honesty is not among them; i.e. the first casualty dealing with Islam always seems to be the truth - lies are totally acceptable; so how may non-Muslim nations ever deal with or make treaty with Muslim nations? In practice, they cannot.

5) Muslims have no rigid religious hierarchy; dealing with this Mullah or that Imam will have no bearing or effect upon how Muslims who follow someone else will behave. The convenience of this subtlety for those who do not want peace has been obvious in the M.E. for decades - and is a prime reason why no peace will be achieved as long as there are practicing Muslims there.

6) Muslim practices, embodied in Shari'a Law, are in conflict with all modern notions of civility; honor killings and the brutal treatment of women will always make Muslims pariahs to anyone who subscribes to civilized concepts and precepts.

7) Muslims consider Islam as perfect - the literal Aramaic Arabic word of Allah, and consequently will accept no changes, period. Where at odds or in conflict (wherever Islam exists?), ANY accommodation or concession must, therefore, come from others.

I see no reasonable way nor rational path to follow to stay out of conflict with Islam. Where there is trouble in the world, 90%+ of the time it is Islam, in practice, seeking to fulfill the goals set forth above.

As KSM said of the failure (yesterday) of AlQ to disrupt the Japan / Korea 2002 World Cup, the problem was a dearth of Muslims in Japan to support the operation. That's it in a nutshell. Where there is a concentration (critical mass?) of Muslims, you will find conflict - from terror to barbaric honor killings to brutal suppresion of women to strife due to zero-compromise politics. Islam is there in sufficient numbers to make it so. You want peace? Then there must be a dearth of Muslims.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 18:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Excellent post, .com
Posted by: 1234L || 02/16/2004 8:35 Comments || Top||


Bedouins protest Israeli destruction of homes, crops
Dozens of Bedouin residents of unrecognized villages in the Negev Desert demonstrated in Be’er Sheva on Sunday morning against the Interior Ministry’s and Israel Lands Administration’s policies of home demolitions and crop destruction in their villages. The protest was held opposite the Interior Ministry’s Be’er Sheva offices. Last week, the ILA’s crop-duster planes again sprayed wheat fields planted by the Bedouin citizens, killing the crops. Sheikh Sayikh Al-Turi, of the Al-Arakib village near Kibbutz Lahav, said this was the fifth time in five years that state authorities had sprayed his crops. "Two hundred people live off this land. We have no other choice than to plant again. I hope enough rain falls for the wheat to sprout," he said. The Bedouin were also protesting to harm to people, pasture lands and livestock caused by the spraying. "One of my family members passed out after breathing the spray that was used," Al-Turi said. The demonstrators carried signs reading "The destruction of croplands is terror" and "The state is using weapons of mass destruction against the Bedouins."
Can anyone here in the know shed some light on the Bedouin situation and their role in Israeli society? Looking through the Rantburg search results, they appear to be occasionally on either side of a conflict but not an overly significant influence.
Posted by: Dar || 02/15/2004 1:37:19 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When I did some business in Israel back in 87, there were Bedouin in and around the hills near Jerusalem. Very poor, living in informal groupings of shanties / small houses, herding goats and sheep (but sheep need better grazing) and with small vegetable plots watered by hand.

The problem may be - and I don't have any current experience or info at all - that by tradition the Bedouin don't *own* land - they use it based on tribal traditions.

This sounds like fairly brutal measures to take, unless they were trying to stake out de facto ownership rights or they were complicit with Palestinian terror.

It's possible Israel is trying to force them out before closing the door. I think there are irrigated areas near Be'er Sheva under intensive cultivation but again I'm not sure of that. And I'm not sure where these people could go if they were forced out - they live a fairly marginal life or at least the ones I saw did 16 years ago .....
Posted by: rkb || 02/15/2004 14:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Someone better versed than me in Arab society correct me but from my readings Bedouins are more or Arabs pariahs. They usualy aren't interested in Arab politics so it strikes me as very unusual they
resort to this kind of slogans. Looks more like there is a Palestinian opertaing them on remote control.
Posted by: JFM || 02/15/2004 16:31 Comments || Top||

#3  The trouble here, rkb, is that the Bedouin are a wandering nomadic sort of people. Like gypsies, they prefer to drift around the land, setting up temporary lodgings when/where ever they find good grazing, and moving on when the grazing is gone.

And they DON'T like borders. To them, a fence is a silly idea that needs to be torn down as soon as possible. For that matter, many of them feel that if we silly house-bound people would just give up those damn roots and come wander with them, we'd be happier. (Or so _they_ feel..)

Ed Becerra
Posted by: Ed Becerra || 02/15/2004 16:32 Comments || Top||

#4  I agree, Ed. I was surprised that a true Bedouin would stop long enough to build a house or plant a crop. Although Wright did mention a Bedouin working at the newspaper. I thought that was unusual also. Maybe times are changing.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 16:56 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Seventeen Wounded in Bomb Blast in Indian Kashmir
Fourteen Indian soldiers and three civilians were wounded in disputed Kashmir Sunday when suspected Muslim militants set off a bomb in a market as a military patrol passed by, police said. The attack in Qazigund, 44 miles south of Srinagar, came a day ahead of first formal talks between nuclear rivals India and Pakistan in Islamabad in nearly three years. Militant violence has continued unabated in Kashmir despite peace moves between the two neighbors. The rebel group Hizbul-Mujahideen, which is fighting for Kashmir to be merged into Pakistan, said it was responsible for the attack. Militants detonated a crude bomb they had put in a hand-cart, a police spokesman said.
Posted by: TS || 02/15/2004 12:13:54 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Israel-Palestine
Thundersnow in Israel
I just spoke to my son who was at a kibbutz near Efrat (about 30 mi S of Jerusalem) this weekend. They had snow with lightening and thunder and then freezing rain and wind and it did a number on the electrical grid. They got snow for two periods, each time about 2" per hour. This place is about the same latitude as Baton Rouge, LA. The haaretz article mentions the snow but not the lightening and thunder. In the US, thunder sometimes accompanies snowstorms, but it is very rare to actually see the lightening through the snow.
Posted by: mhw || 02/15/2004 11:58:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's very rare.... I saw snow, sleet, thunder, lightning and rain in the great gulf storm of March 13.... from St. George Island btw.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#2  mhw, I've experienced similar weather. Bivouacing at Camp Edwards on Cape Cod one February night many years ago we had everything but sunshine. A strange sight indeed.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 13:04 Comments || Top||

#3  They were just recalibrating the Zionist Death Ray.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 02/15/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#4  June 14, 1984 I saw the first recorded thunderstorm in Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, smack in the middle of the petroleum field. Pucker factor maxed out.
Posted by: TW || 02/15/2004 17:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Its not that unusual. I have seen it on a number of occasions in Toronto. I recall seeing it in NYC also. Its probably less common in Europe and ME for the same reason tornados are less common. They dont have the very large drycold and warmmoist air masses meeting to the same extent as N America.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 18:13 Comments || Top||

#6  I remember seeing it in 1982 here in St. Louis. I also remember the local weather people breaking into TV every half hour or so telling us that we were in for a bad one. They were right; worst snow we've ever had here, something like 2 feet in one night. Took me two days to shovel out the driveway and the town was shut down for a week.
Posted by: Christopher Johnson || 02/15/2004 19:14 Comments || Top||

#7  I looked it up. The latitude of Efrat is about 31.2 degrees.

baton rouge is about 30.2 degrees.
Posted by: mhw || 02/15/2004 19:44 Comments || Top||


Police arrest 2,600 Palestinians without permits
JPost - Reg req’d; Clearing the house before closing the door?
Security forces arrested some 2,600 Palestinians over the weekend who had entered Israel without the required permits, Israel Radio reported Sunday morning. The Palestinians were questioned and returned to the West Bank.
oh, horrors! Not back to palestine!
Thirty-four Israelis were arrested on suspicion of aiding the Palestinians. Police officials said they intend to bring the Israelis to court on charges of illegally providing work, transportation and lodging for Palestinian workers. The police also caught 120 stolen cars in the operation.
Pals driving stolen cars? It’s a tradition!
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 11:01:39 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  " The car came with the explosives, honest! ...Can I rephrase that?"
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 11:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe the Israelis can teach us about how to turn back our illegals, since we are kinda special ed in that department.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/15/2004 12:58 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqis Seize No. 41 on U.S. Wanted List
Iraqi police on Sunday arrested No. 41 on the American military's most-wanted list, Baath Party official Mohammed Zimam Abdul-Razaq. He was the party's regional chairman in the northern provinces of Nineveh and Tamim, which include the oil-rich city of Kirkuk. Police caught Abdul-Razaq at one of his homes in western Baghdad, the Interior Ministry said. He was the four of spades in the military's "deck of cards" of top fugitives — leaving 10 still at large from the most-wanted list of 55.
Another one bites the dust...
Posted by: Fred Pruitt || 02/15/2004 10:17 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My talley shows the following henchmen still at large:

No. 6: Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Revolutionary Command Council vice chairman, longtime Saddam confidant.
No. 7: Hani Abd al-Latif Tilfah al-Tikriti, director, Special Security Organization.
No. 14: Sayf al-Din Fulayyih Hasan Taha al-Rawi, Republican Guard chief of staff.
No. 15: Rafi Abd al-Latif Tilfah al-Tikriti, director of general security.
No. 16: Tahir Jalil Haboush, chief of Iraqi intelligence service.
No. 21: Rukan Razuki Abd al-Ghafar Sulayman al-Majid al-Tikriti, head of tribal affairs office.
No. 36: Sabawi Ibrahim Hasan, presidential adviser, Saddam’s half brother.
No. 40: Abdel Baqi Abdel Karim Abdallah al-Sadun, Baath Party regional command chairman.
No. 44: Yahya Abdellah al-Aboudi, Baath Party regional command chairman.
No. 49: Rashid Taan Kazim, Baath Party regional chairman.
I'm surprised that any of these fugitives remain in the country, but they keep finding them there.
Posted by: GK || 02/15/2004 11:11 Comments || Top||

#2  And it's even better that the Iraqi police scored this guy!
Posted by: Patrick Phillips || 02/15/2004 11:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Should be a little easier to find #'s 40, 44 and 49 now.

Does this mean we can start Ten Little Iraqi's nursery rhyme now?
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 11:29 Comments || Top||

#4  http://www.hendersonville-pd.org/nurseryindians.html
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 12:13 Comments || Top||

#5  http://www.hendersonville-pd.org/nurseryindians.html
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 12:13 Comments || Top||

#6  darn...don't know why the link doesn't work. Oh well, there is always cut and paste :-)
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Pakistan Braces for the American Storm
Summary
Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf has begun warning his country that if it does not root out al Qaeda, the United States will.

Analysis
Click on the link. After that scroll down for some humour

Posted by: tipper || 02/15/2004 8:38:01 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  wow...now that says something on so many different levels, that it's hard to even begin....
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#2  good Stratfor commentary (I usually get mine from Al-Aska Paul) - Perv's in a tight spot, we need to keep the pressure on him while hoping th eMMA nuts don't kill him. Either way, Pakland either gets with the kill-Al-Qaeda program or becomes a target
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 9:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Stratfor used to be good, back before they raised their prices sky-high and started devoting most of their screen real estate to oil company topics of interest. Ah well, happens with most internet phenomenons, I suppose. Start out great, then peter out. It's happening here, too, what with the site owners' refusal to police the trolls. Due to not getting smacked, the trolls are growing and gathering strength, as well. Same thing happened when Stratfor tried to implement a public message board.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 11:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh yeah...broken link. Link's web server isn't answering requests at the moment.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 11:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Excellent. Perv is serious about letting us in to take out Al-Queada.
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 11:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Gromky

It was just really slow when I tried it.
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 12:31 Comments || Top||

#7  Yeah, but what happens if al Qaeda adopts a strategy revolving around the November elections? That is, to dial operations back a notch and lower their profile just enough to allow the Western fifth-column media to lend credence to the Quislingcrats' notion that the Islamic terrorism threat is "exaggerated"?

Donald Sensing has said that al Qaeda's not exactly in the first rank of strategic planners. Granted, but the strategy I've outlined above gives them upside in two big areas: first, it gives them time to lick their wounds and regroup for the next round of high-profile ops; and second, by indirectly aiding the election of a Quislingcrat US President, they assure that the 82nd Airborne Div., 75th Rangers, etc., will be replaced with Officer Friendly reading from his Miranda Warning card translated into Arabic.
Posted by: Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) || 02/15/2004 12:36 Comments || Top||

#8  Let us fumigate their guesthouse.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 16:18 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Palestinian journalists boycott PA coverage
In a civil war you have no choice except to take sides.
The Palestinian Journalists Syndicate in the Gaza Strip has called on its members to stop covering events related to the Palestinian Authority’s security forces to protest against continued attacks on journalists. The boycott, which goes into effect on Sunday, is also directed against the PA Ministry of Justice, which is accused of failing to take appropriate measures to punish the perpetrators. The journalists were instructed not to cover the activities of the security forces or interview their commanders until tough measures are taken against those responsible for a spate of attacks on correspondents and newspaper and TV offices. On Sunday, the journalists are expected to stage a sit-in strike outside the offices of the Gaza City prosecutor to demand an inquiry into three recent cases in which local journalists were targeted in the Gaza Strip. Last week some 200 journalists from the Gaza Strip declared a one-day strike to protest against the recurring attacks on their colleagues.

The boycott decision was taken over the weekend in response to the torching of a car belonging to Munir Abu Rizek, the Gaza City bureau chief for the PA daily Al-Hayat al-Jadeeda. The incident took place early Friday morning, while the car was parked outside Abu Rizek’s home in the Tal al-Hawa neighborhood of Gaza City. A statement issued by the syndicate condemned the attacks as "a new chapter in the campaign of terror directed against Palestinian journalists." The statement pointed out that the attacks came "at the peak of a barbaric aggression by the occupation on our people and in the light of the absence of deterrence and order and law." Abu Rizek said he did not know who set his car on fire and denied receiving threats prior to the torching. He expressed fear that he PA security forces would not make a serious effort to pursue the perpetrators, noting that similar attacks in the past remain unresolved.

Earlier this month, three more attacks on journalists were reported in Ramallah and Gaza City. In the first case, three masked Palestinian gunmen carrying AK-47 rifles stormed the offices of the Ramallah-based Al-Quds Educational Television. Assistant Manager Haroun Abu Arrah, one of two station employees present at the time, told the Committee to Protect Journalists that one of the men demanded that he hand over a tape. When Abu Arrah asked for clarification, the gunmen began beating the two staffers with rifle butts and fists. Abu Arrah said that after the beating, two of the assailants went into another room and fired several rounds at some of the station’s equipment, destroying computer screens and video equipment. Abu Arrah and his colleague managed to escape unharmed.

In 1997, the PA police arrested Daoud Kuttab, director of the Institute of Modern Media at Al-Quds University (which is responsible for the TV station) after the station broadcast live proceedings of a Palestinian Legislative Council debate. The PA had repeatedly jammed the live coverage prior to the arrest because some legislators had voiced criticism of the Palestinian leadership and called for implementing financial reforms. Kuttab was released a week later following a campaign launched by local and international press and human rights organizations.

In the second incident, also in Ramallah, armed thugs went on the rampage inside the offices of the private Amwaj, or Waves, radio station. In the third case, unidentified gunmen broke into the offices of a Gaza City weekly, destroying equipment and furniture. The attack on the offices of the recently established Al-Daar (The Home) was carried out during the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha, when the workers were on holiday. Hassan al-Kashif, the editor-in-chief, said he believes that the vandalism came in retaliation for the newspaper’s editorial stance against official corruption in the PA. Kashif said he holds the PA responsible for capturing the attackers and bringing them to trial.

Earlier this year, five armed Fatah activists beat Saif al-Din Shahin, a correspondent for the Dubai-based satellite news channel Al-Arabiya, after intercepting his car at a major Gaza City intersection. Shahin said the attackers identified themselves as Fatah activists and warned him against referring to their group in his reporting. The attack was apparently in response to a report by Shahin that many Palestinians were unhappy with the paramilitary parades Fatah held in the Gaza Strip on the 39th anniversary of its establishment. The Ramallah offices of the Saudi-owned Al-Arabiya have also been targeted. Last September, five masked gunmen stormed the offices and destroyed office equipment, including computer screens and furniture. The assailants said they were from Fatah’s armed wing, the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades.
I couldn’t bring myself to EFL this. Its just too perfect!
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 4:51:35 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bwahahahahaha! Paleo's are noticing where the money's going and they don't like it!
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 8:28 Comments || Top||

#2  is it me? Or is this months news just full of stuff that makes you think, wow!
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 8:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Holy crap a new record! 750 word article and no mention that it's the JEWS behind it all. Perhaps that's simply assumed...
Posted by: Hyper || 02/15/2004 9:37 Comments || Top||

#4  welcome to freedom of the press in the future corrupt state of palestine
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 10:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Your assuming they'll get a state, and if they do that it will last. Without the Isreali economy the Paleos have nothing but terrorist organizations. And if that happens, the terrorists will steal the water, food, clothing, money, and more all in the name of Allah.

I wonder how long it would take before thousands start to camp outside the gates of the wall, begging to be let into Isreal?
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 11:28 Comments || Top||

#6  I wonder how long it would take before thousands start to camp outside the gates of the wall, begging to be let into Isreal?

F*ck all that. Years of looking the other way while terrorist murders have been plotted and executed has its price. Let Jordan or Egypt take care of these individuals.
Posted by: badanov || 02/15/2004 12:47 Comments || Top||

#7  I never said we'd take care of them, I agree with you on that Badanov. I just wondered how long would it take before they started begging again.
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 13:08 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
10 suicide squads out to whack Perv
Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf’s security has been strengthened and his movements kept top secret as the country’s premier intelligence agencies have specific information that ten suicide squads are after him. Pakistan’s leading weekly newspaper The Friday Times said in its latest issue that the intelligence teams investigating the possible nexus between the two ’jehadi’ groups allegedly responsible for the two attempts on the life of Musharraf also fear there may be more suicide squads out there trying to kill him. "Our information says there could be eight, possibly ten suicide squads still after the President," a senior intelligence official told The Friday Times on the condition of anonymity. "Most of these groups comprise local jehadis but some of them might well be taking directives from the foreigners," he said in a clear hint to Al Qaeda. "They can strike again now that they have been assigned a specific mission, but we will track them down. We are closing in on them," he added.

The weekly said the episode involving nuclear scientists, including Father of Pakistan’s Nuclear Bomb Abdul Qadeer Khan, could further endanger Musharraf’s life. "The episode has even put off the common man. Most people think all this is being done at the behest of America and will result in a rollback of the programme. That does not bode well," it said, quoting a political analyst.
Pretty neat. We scooped The Hindu on this by two or three days, thanks to Paul Moloney.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 1:59:02 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  if they do get Perve then what next for pakland? what would India think about having a leader -less Pakland next door. I still hope India will nuke Pakland
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 02/15/2004 4:29 Comments || Top||

#2  In a serious shooting war with India Pakland would last about 30 minutes and I think Perv knows it. From his POV the Pak nukes are about face and being able to hit the Indies back a little at least. The fundies on the other hand seem to view them as REAL Weapons that can be used with impunity. If the fundies ever take over Pakland I give it 6 months tops befor some asshat lets one off.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 6:20 Comments || Top||

#3  hope the Americans have mapped out where pervs mobile nuke launchers are and passed or willing to pass it over to india. I could see a large deep strike from India and its Huge excellent airforce destroying Pervs nuke capabilities while only using conventional munitions in the process, actually think i'd rather just see Pakland nuked.
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 02/15/2004 7:03 Comments || Top||

#4  I wouldn't wish nuclear death on anyone. Not Muslims, not even the untouchable castes.

Nuclear deterrence relies on the fact that both sides are rational. Somehow I don't think that calculus would work if (when?) Musharraf is assassinated.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 7:22 Comments || Top||

#5  many will get their wish for martyrdom and reincarnation - what's not good about that?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 10:14 Comments || Top||

#6  from India and its Huge excellent airforce

India's got some good pilots and a decent tradition but their aircraft are getting long of tooth and are hampered by the fact they are of Soviet design. India did better when buying British.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#7  I guess now's not a good time to throw the guy a surprise party, huh? I can just see it - everybody jumps out and before they can yell "surprise!" (in arabic, presumably), Perv whips out his belly gun and plugs a couple of guests...
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 18:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Ship - the Mig-29 isn't "long of tooth", and there are other modern fighters in India's air force. They also have an indigenous aircraft industry, and produce at least one fighter and a couple of trainer aircraft. But if all they had were obsolete Japaneze Zeros, if they have enough, they would totally overwhelm the Pakistani defenses. The "enough" portion of the equation isn't the problem - it's mostly logistics. There's a nasty, rather empty desert along much of the border between the two countries.

Whacking Perv is considered a 'good' thing by those that want to throw the entire Muslim world into turmoil, for their own benefit - I.E., the turbantop fruitcakes. I think they may be letting a bigger problem loose among themselves by doing so, but they can't think that far, or that rationally.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 19:39 Comments || Top||

#9  I.E., the turbantop fruitcakes.

That might even beat out "asshats"
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 19:45 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Fallujah attackers included at least 2 Iranians, 1 Lebanese
Edited for relevence
Four of the attackers were killed as well as several Iraqi civilians, bringing the number of dead to 25. At least 40 people were wounded. Documents found on the four dead attackers indicated that one was Lebanese and that two were Iranians, the Americans said. The presence of fighters from those countries could be disturbing to Iraqis.
That’s suprising to me, and there is always the chance of the papers being false, but it also ties in with the story that Dan posted of the attackers speaking a non-Arabic language.
The goal of the raid, which lasted several minutes, was unclear, but there were indications that it was intended to free a small group held inside. American officials estimated that 70 prisoners had escaped, most of them common criminals, although the Iraqis put the figure higher. One police officer said the attackers had taken 18 prisoners with them. The Americans said the attack appeared to have been an attempt by supporters of Saddam Hussein’s former government, with the help of foreigners, to free a group of four insurgents who were captured attacking a busload of Iraqi civil defense forces last week. The apparent nationalities of the attackers lent credence to claims by Iraqi officers that the attackers were trying to free a group of Iranians captured last week. The claims, made Saturday by a number of police officers, dovetailed with statements made earlier this week by the Falluja police chief, Brig. Abid Farhan, speaking at a meeting with the Falluja city council and an American lieutenant colonel.
That would be Steve Russell's replacement...
Brigadier Farhan said an unspecified number of Iranians were captured as they tried to drive into the city late last month. After those arrests, the chief said, he imposed a 10 p.m. curfew across the city. The American lieutenant colonel, Brian Drinkwine, whose battalion is based in Falluja, heard the statements by Brigadier Farhan at the meeting and did not challenge them. Another police officer wounded in the attack, Faris Ibrahim, reiterated from his hospital bed that a group of Iranians had been captured in the city. "We knew they were Iranians because they could not speak Arabic, only Persian," he said.
VEVAK or Pasadran?
If proved, the presence of Iranian agents inside Iraq would be potentially explosive here. Falluja is an Sunni Muslim city, where people are acutely sensitive to the growing political power of the country’s Shiite majority. They are also wary of Iran, a Shiite country. After the battle on Saturday, the Iraqi police recovered a black battle flag. In the Muslim world, black is the color of the Shiites.
Black is also used as a battle flag by Sunni groups too, Hezb ut Tahrir and al Qaeda, for example..
Sounds like a Zarqawi setup. Import some Medes and Persians, a few Hezbollah, stage a major operation in a Sunni area, and the green turbans are giving the Shiites the hairy eyeball and vowing Dire Revenge™.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/15/2004 1:04:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It could also have a red herring to try to put the blame on Shi'ites in hopes of radicalizing Sunnis, re: the Zarqawi letter. Keep in mind that a lot of al-Qaeda have passed through Iran and I imagine that they could easily have picked up some Farsi there if this was intended to be a stunt.

And the al-Qaeda battle standard is a black flag with writing on it.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||

#2  hope if rummy gets his way then that stupid lebonese shit may just be having to fight for his life in his own 'country'
Posted by: Jon Shep U.K || 02/15/2004 4:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Corden and search tactics are very effective in ferreting out Iranian agents since even those who speak arabic do it with a persian accents.

Expect lots of C&S next week in Falluja.
Posted by: mhw || 02/15/2004 7:50 Comments || Top||

#4  lieutenant colonel, Brian Drinkwine,
Good moslem name.... Fatwa coming the Colonels way in 5....4.....3
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 8:43 Comments || Top||

#5  Col. Drinkwine implored his battalion to stay sober? Stay Alert! Drinkwine said.

Stopping.

Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 8:45 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm skeptical that the attackers carried their actual identification documents on this mission.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 8:47 Comments || Top||

#7  The Belmontclub has an article up about this incident, quote:

"That when dying and bleeding, beset by the flower of terrorism, with pistol to set against automatic rifle and grenade, the Iraqi police did not ask for help from 82nd Airborne. They asked for ammunition."

Sorry, i have not figured out how to link yet (HTML Dyslexia) so here is the URL:

http://belmontclub.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Evert Visser || 02/15/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#8  It's always a good sign when Iraqis take pride in defending themselves. It means that they're developing a sense of Nationalism and turning against the terrorists.
Posted by: Charles || 02/15/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||


Saif al-Adel in Iraq with Zarqawi
Skipping through what we already know about yesterday’s attack in Fallujah ...
Despite the hint that trouble was imminent, residents said there was little evidence of American support on the ground yesterday. Although US warplanes circled overhead, dropping heat balloons to divert heat-seeking missiles in the aftermath of the attacks, no US troops appeared on the streets and eyewitnesses said the attackers went largely unchallenged. "Fallujah is out of control," said one resident, Bilal Mukhlif, as he quickly brought down the shutters on his tyre shop two blocks away. Another shopowner said that he and his neighbours had been told not to open for business that morning because an ambush was imminent.
Told by whom?
Qais Jameel, a wounded policeman, said that he had heard some of the attackers speaking a foreign language. From his hospital bed, the sheets soaked in his blood, he said: "It sounded like gibberish to me. It wasn’t Arabic."
Urdu? Farsi? Kurdish?
Farsi, according to the subsequent post...
Coalition officials have already blamed foreign fighters for many of the guerrilla attacks. Yesterday’s raid came as the Telegraph learned of suspicions that a high-ranking al-Qaeda member, Saif al-Adel, is operating in Iraq.
I thought he was "in custody" over in Iran.
"House arrest," no doubt. Iraq's his back yard.
Al-Adel, a former bodyguard of Osama bin Laden and number three in the terror group’s chain of command, is believed to be among a group of senior al-Qaeda members who moved from Afghanistan to Iraq last September to wage jihad, or holy war, against American forces. An informant in Pakistan with close links to senior al-Qaeda and Taliban members said al-Adel, an Egyptian, planned to team up with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian linked to a string of major terrorist attacks in Iraq over the last few months.
Another Zarqawi tie to al-Qaeda, not that we need any more at this point...
They are even keener to capture al-Adel, who has a $25 million (£13.5 million) bounty on his head for information leading to his capture. He is believed to have played an important role in the US embassy bombings in Africa in 1998, and in more recent terrorist attacks within Saudi Arabia. The al-Qaeda informant said: "After an assembly of top al-Qaeda people was held, Saif al-Adel was ordered to reorganise the Iraqi resistance against the Americans and foreign invader troops in Iraq, and turn it into a holy war. Some top al-Qaeda members moved from Afghanistan to Iraq through Iran. Right now Zarqawi and Saif al-Adel are working together, trying to lead the resistance and attacks in Iraq." Coalition officials say that recent intelligence, as well as information from captured Iraqis, points to stronger links between insurgents and the al-Qaeda network but there is no evidence linking the suicide bombings to al-Qaeda.
Kind of hard, seeing as how the evidence goes up in smoke with the boomer, though I thought the Zarqawi letter said he’d ordered 25 suicide bombings, which I think accounts for all the ones that we’ve had to date.
Nonetheless, the possibility that two men at the top of the US most-wanted list are now working together on the ground is certain to alarm the authorities. Yesterday’s raid revealed the vulnerability of the Iraqi police and defence units whom the Americans want to assume security duties after the transfer of power.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:55:26 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Urdu? Farsi? Kurdish?

I vote for Kurdish. Iraqis are familiar enough with Urdu and Farsi to recognize the language.

We English-speakers recognize French and Spanish but would call Basque "gibberish."
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 1:04 Comments || Top||

#2  A Finnish-American friend told me that when his parents and older brother first arrived in the US and enrolled the five year old in school, the teacher did not recognize Finnish as a language and placed the kid in Special Ed because she thought he was retarded!!!

Posted by: JDB || 02/15/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Sorry Falujah, it's time to pull out the Barbed Wire.
Posted by: Daniel King || 02/15/2004 16:52 Comments || Top||

#4  I meant to say Chechen. I would think that Iraqis would easily recognize Kurdish.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
High radioactivity and low security
Ignoring the ominous graffiti scrawled on the rusting steel doors - "Radiation! Danger!! Stop! Cancer!" - three men broke into a masonry bungalow at a medical research institute here in May 2002. They fished seven lead-lined capsules out of a containment pool. The thieves took the containers, shaped like coffee cans, back to a garage, stripped the lead out of at least one, and planned to melt down the metal to make shotgun pellets.
Then they started growing gill slits...
But these were not ordinary canisters. Lerry Meskhi, head of nuclear and radiation safety for the former Soviet republic of Georgia, said they contained a small but potent amount of cesium 137, emitting about 33,000 curies of radioactivity - enough to cause radiation sickness or death. The three thieves quickly fell ill. Abkhazia’s de-facto government - rebels who led a successful revolt against Georgia in 1993 - had the cesium moved to the ruins of a nearby physics institute for safer storage. Cesium 137 and these other common materials can’t detonate. But an ounce or so - the weight matters less than the level of radioactivity, measured in curies - could be used to make a "dirty bomb," a conventional high-explosive salted with radioactive matter.
Much more danger of that happening that of Qaeda kilotonning New York...
The radioactive ingredients for a dirty bomb can be found in just about every country in the world. But nowhere, it seems, are more of them kept under poor security than in the former Soviet Union. And probably nowhere in the wreckage of the U.S.S.R. is the material less secure than in Abkhazia and other rebel-controlled bits of post-Soviet states where corruption is endemic, the rule of law weak and smuggling a mainstay of the economy. If the three Abkhazian thieves had known what they had, they might have tried to smuggle the cesium to Turkey with a shipload of lumber. Or tried to carry it in a car through Georgia and south toward Iran.
Instead, they ended up glowing in the dark...
In recent years, hunters and farmers in Georgia have stumbled on radioactive devices scattered through the countryside. They have used the hot cores to make hot water or keep them warm while camping in the mountains. This month, the Georgian government said it had found tiny amounts of cesium 137 at 30 gasoline stations across the country, used to measure the level of gas in tanks. Today Abkhazia is one of four ethnic enclaves - the others are Chechnya, Nagorno-Karabakh and Trans-Dniester - to claim independence. Most have become havens for smugglers and criminal groups.
Point this sort of thing out, next time somebody tries to tell you that anarchy is a valid political system...
With its palm-fringed beaches, orange groves and sunny Mediterranean climate, Abkhazia seems like a dreamy refuge from the world of war and terrorist threats. That appearance masks a different reality. The country is carved up among four criminal gangs who smuggle everything from timber and hazelnuts to hashish and stolen cars, according to a draft report by American University’s Transnational Crime and Corruption Center. Kidnapping and assassination are common. Police are ineffective. "The distinction among official security and police forces, criminals [and] various armed formations is totally blurred," the report says.
... or non-existent.
During the war, the medical research institute in Sokhumi was ransacked. But its radioactive cesium, used in leukemia research, was untouched. The institute’s director, Sergei K. Ardzinba, resisted foreign pressure to move the material to a more secure storage site. He hoped, he said in a recent interview, to resume radiological experiments one day. After the theft and recovery of the cesium in May 2002, Ardzinba relinquished the material. The rebel government moved it to a vault at a former nuclear weapons lab called the Sokhumi Institute of Physics and Technology. There, it was stored with about 240 other samples of radioactive material. Unfortunately, the Sokhumi physics institute has a poor record of protecting nuclear materials. According to Western experts, in spring 1993 it held between 1.4 and 4.4 pounds of highly enriched uranium, suitable for a nuclear bomb. Sometime after that, nonproliferation experts say, the uranium vanished.
Whoops.
Since the fall of the Soviet Union, there have been at least 18 reports of stolen plutonium or highly enriched uranium. But the theft in Sokhumi is unique. "It represents, to the best of my knowledge, the only confirmed instance of missing or diverted highly enriched uranium or plutonium that was not recovered," said William Potter, a nonproliferation scholar with the Monterey Institute of International Studies in California. For several years after the war with Georgia, Abkhaz officials barred international inspectors from visiting the physics institute. Experts with Russia’s atomic energy agency, Minatom, finally gained access in December 1997. They found most buildings vacant. Any highly enriched uranium was gone. Abkhazian officials insist they haven’t lost any nuclear bomb materials. Anatolia I. Markolia, director of Sokhumi’s physics institute, says he has no evidence the facility ever had highly enriched uranium. "Nothing went missing during the war," he said.
"Wouldja hand me my lips, please? I need them for whistling past the graveyard..."
But most foreign experts aren't that stoopid believe otherwise. Valter G. Kashia, a former researcher at the institute, said in an interview he personally used 655 grams - 1.4 pounds - of highly enriched uranium at the institute to test designs of nuclear-powered electric generators for spacecraft. Kashia fled Abkhazia in 1992 and now lives in exile in Tbilisi, the Georgian capital. Abkhazia’s security chief turned down requests to visit the Sokhumi physics institute and see the vault where the radioactive materials are held. Nonproliferation experts say they think cesium 137 from the medical research center is still safely stored there. But some still worry about what might happen to the material. "Even if [radioactive material] is under lock and key and guarded, how reliable is that under the Abkhaz regime?" asked Scott Parish, a proliferation researcher at the Monterey Institute, who has been to Abkhazia.

Vilmos Friedrich, an official with the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, helps run that agency’s program to clean up radioactive materials in the former Soviet Union. Among the most troublesome regions for regulators, he said, are those where central governments have little or no control. "Of course, where the political structure is not well established, where smuggling and illicit trafficking of any kind of materials is going on, there is much higher probability that this illicit activity also includes radioactivity," he said.

Georgian authorities have caught several people attempting to smuggle materials that might be used in a dirty bomb. Last May, a taxi driver was caught headed for Tbilisi’s main railroad station carrying a trunk loaded with containers of highly radioactive cesium 137 and strontium 90. A month later, an Armenian man was arrested in a border town, on his way south to the Armenian capital, Yerevan. American-supplied radioactivity detectors set up at the roadside sounded an alarm, and border guards discovered a 4.4-pound disc of uranium hidden a shopping bag filled with tea. Lt. Gen. Valeri Chkheidze, chief of the Georgian border guards, said Abkhazia’s long coastline on the Black Sea makes it difficult to control what goes in and what comes out. "Contraband is widespread," he said. "Drugs are being trafficked. Where there is no control, it is easy to smuggle radioactive materials as well."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:45:53 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I burreid Puaaul." Koo Koo ka choo, I am the walrus...
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 1:57 Comments || Top||

#2  took the containers, shaped like coffee cans, back to a garage, stripped the lead out of at least one, and planned to melt down the metal to make shotgun pellets.

All right I'm ecalating... anything the Russ can do I can screw up better.... I need to get ahold of some depleted Uranium before the Spring gobbler season.... what's the melting point of Uranium?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 11:26 Comments || Top||

#3  I knew the Russians were fond of overkill, but neutron 12 gauge rounds? Wow...
All kidding aside, there guys are definitely candidates for a Darwin Half-Lifetime Achievement Award....

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 02/15/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#4  I get you could formulate a hell of a Dirty Harry threat line if you were packing truly dirty heat.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 11:41 Comments || Top||

#5  It's the short half-life, strong emitters you have to watch out for, guys. Cesium 137, a fission by-product with a 30 year h/l, is a nasty one.
Posted by: mojo || 02/15/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#6  Shipman, RE melting point of U238 - somewhere around 3K Celsius. Not something you'd find easy to do in your basement reload equipment.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#7  mojo - and taken to the logical next step were the neutron weapons. With them, you destroy life, but not structures or facilities. Judged inhumane by the UN / multilateralist / we-can't-make-em-so-you-can't-have-em-either crowds, Geo41 destroyed our stockpile. Do you guys miss them, yet? Someday, when the WoT has dropped the PC pretenses, we all will, methinks.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 18:27 Comments || Top||

#8  I wonder if they glow in the dark :)
Posted by: djohn66 || 02/15/2004 21:45 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
African leaders discuss access to Western markets
Leaders and senior officials from 20 African countries met in Rwanda on Saturday to find ways to get African farmers better access to lucrative American and European markets. Members of the New Partnership for Africa Development, or NEPAD, worked to hammer out a common position on how to persuade the United States and European countries to reduce or eliminate the massive agricultural subsidies they give their farmers, Claver Gatete, a senior NEPAD official, told The Associated Press. The African leaders and officials "are trying to see how African countries, African products can access markets in developed countries ... where they are providing subsidies of almost US$1 billion per day for agricultural products," Gatete said. Western countries spend about US$300 billion a year supporting their farmers, subsidies that African countries argue undercut the competitive advantage of one of the continent’s main industries. The subsidies have "really prohibited" African farmers from selling their produce in Western countries, Gatete said.
He’s got a point. Helping African countries with trade would be better long-term than aid and subsidies.
The two-day summit began Friday when 16 nations launched a self-policing system intended to combat negative perceptions of Africa and make the world’s poorest continent more attractive to private investors. On Saturday, Angola became the 17th country to join the initiative known as the African Peer Review Mechanism, said Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo.
If this actually works I may have to buy a new surprise meter, ’cause the one I have now will burn out.
Under the initiative, countries will open themselves up to scrutiny by independent agencies, such as the U.N. Economic Commission for Africa, which will consult with governments, the private sector and members of civil society to gauge economic and political conditions, focusing on corruption, human rights and the investment environment.
Make it open to U.S. agencies and I’ll be even more impressed.
The review mechanism will operate under the African Union’s NEPAD, the latest initiative to encourage development and investment in the continent beset by conflict, human rights abuses, poor infrastructure and corruption. NEPAD has been trumpeted as an African effort to solve Africa’s problems, but the African Union, the continent’s main body, is strapped for cash -- inheriting large debts from its predecessor, the Organization for African Unity -- and has been criticized for being little more than a talking shop.
Which is the history of Africa. But fixing the agri-trade issue could make it easier to fight the WoT.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 12:45:08 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So Africa is in play. I'm on board. Release the hounds Smithers. Perhaps Africa is the theatre that the WoT should morph. That would ruffle AQ's shorts.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 1:45 Comments || Top||

#2  NEPAD - isn't that the one Clinton helped found?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Islam is growing rapidly in sub-Saharan Africa, but then again, so is Christianity -- this is the crucial arena of cultural competition. US cotton, peanut, and sugar growers (with their protectionist allies in congress) are NOT gelping matters here at all.
Posted by: closet neo-con || 02/15/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#4  What will this do to our domestic khat farmers?
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Closet NC, I am betting that the farm subsidies are rolled back soon after the election - just speculating. If they are eliminated altogether, I would limit them to farmers owning a limited acreage.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 11:37 Comments || Top||

#6  I like and encourage competition. Sometimes, however, trying to go head to head isn't the best way to go. I'm sure there are things that only grow in Africa, and some things that, although grown elsewhere, taste different when grown in Africa. It may be better to concentrate on those areas, rather than trying to compete directly with US wheat, cotton, soybean, and corn growers - at least until farming as an export has gained a significant foothold in Africa.

The US sugar subsidy is mainly aimed at Caribbean and South American growers (Cuba, number 1). IF US subsidies are rolled back, we also will have to roll back the tons of over-regulation our farmers currently struggle with, so they can be competitive internationally.

This isn't the simple problem a lot of people think it is, and there isn't going to be a simple solution. I encourage Africa, and I hope the US and Europe not only encourage this, but help in every way possible. I just think there are going to be some significant teething problems along the way.

Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Old Patriot -- good points. But many African countries are already competitive in peanuts (Senegal, Mali) and cotton (CAR, B.F., for ex.) Sugar barriers hurt the Philippines, which is an major site in the WoT.
Posted by: closet neo-con || 02/15/2004 13:42 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Yandarbiyev hailed at funeral
"I come to bury Yandarbiyev, not to praise him..."
The assassinated ex-Chechen president - branded a terrorist by the Kremlin and Washington - was praised as a holy warrior for Islam as he was laid to rest with honors Saturday in a cemetery normally reserved for members of the royal family of this U.S.-allied Gulf sheikdom.
The Qatari Interior Minister is a known al-Qaeda mole (as appears to be his Saudi counterpart), so this is hardly surprising ...
Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, killed when an assassin’s bomb ripped through his SUV as he left Friday prayers with his teenage son, was "a holy warrior for the sake of God, and part of the struggling Chechen people," Sheik Ali Quradaghi said in his funeral oration.
Kinda hints at which side he's on. But we knew that... I believe "Quradaghi" is an inventive transliteration of Youssef al-Qaradawi, whom we've heard from periodically over the past few years.
"The Chechens will not be intimidated by this cowardly act. We must stand alongside them with all our capabilities," the sheik told 700 mourners who gathered for the funeral ceremony.
"So dig deep, brethren and sistern! Putcher money where my mouth is!"
Quradaghi, who delivered the funeral oration, did not blame the Russians - who have denied any connection to the killing , but he said the Kremlin had "displaced our Chechen brothers. Just like the Soviet Union was defeated (in Afghanistan), so will Russia be." An aide to Yandarbiyev, Ibrahim Gabi, blamed the Kremlin and Russia’s Federal Security Service, the FSB, for Yandarbiyev’s killing, a pro-rebel Web site reported.
Who else are they going to blame? Each other? Though in this case it's probably correct. Remember that the Russers declared only about ten days before the boom that they were going after the masterminds behind the Nord-Ost Theater siege. Yandarbiyev was on the list. Is FSB doing a Mossad-Black September act?
"There’s no doubt that Lubyanka is behind this bloody terrorist act," the site quoted Gabi as saying, referring to the infamous Moscow building that was the headquarters of the Soviet KGB and now houses the FSB, its main successor. Among the mourners at al-Rayan cemetery were a state minister and a family representative of Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, who rules the Gulf nation. Also there was Abassi Madani, one of Algeria’s top two Islamic leaders.
Isn’t he the FIS front man who’s been making threats lately? Be interested to learn which state minister was present ...
Madani said the assassination was "an ugly crime. It was the act of a coward. The cowardly Russian position will only add to its shame. Victory is close, God willing."
And if not, He'll send another earthquake, no doubt...
Yandarbiyev had seldom been seen in public since he settled here, but he occasionally appeared on Qatar’s Al-Jazeera satellite television channel where he commented on the Chechen-Russian conflict. Other than his 13-year-old son Daoud, wounded in the attack but said to be recovering well, details on surviving members of his family were not available. Acting Chechen Prime Minister Eli Isayev, a Russian ally, said Yandarbiyev’s assassination "confirms once again the common truth that any criminal, especially of such a rank, will sooner or later get his punishment. Yandarbiyev got his in Qatar." Yandarbiyev became one of the most prominent proponents of radical Islam among the Chechen rebels. During the hard-line Islamic rule of the Taliban in Afghanistan, Yandarbiyev opened a Chechen Embassy in the Afghan capital, and a consulate in the southern city of Kandahar.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:39:55 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did they put a stake through his heart just in case?
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 0:45 Comments || Top||

#2 
During the hard-line Islamic rule of the Taliban in Afghanistan, Yandarbiyev opened a Chechen Embassy in the Afghan capital, and a consulate in the southern city of Kandahar.

... because so many Chechens were in Afghanistan as members and supporters of Al Qaeda.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 1:00 Comments || Top||

#3  Do you notice how that Islamic thing keeps popping up. It's all God this and allah that. "God hates Islam" sez Lucky. There I said it, so it must be so.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 1:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Madani said the assassination was "an ugly crime. It was the act of a coward. The cowardly Russian position will only add to its shame.

soooo...I guess we are just left to ponder why it's an act of bravery when they do it.
Posted by: B || 02/15/2004 7:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Have there been evidence that Yandarbiyev was indeed a terrorist, like Basayev is?

Or is this just a case where every Chechen separationist is painted with the same brush?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 02/15/2004 9:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Looks like the jury's more in than out on that score...
Posted by: Raj || 02/15/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Aris,

Yandarbiyev was said to be the Gulf contact with the Bad Boyz in the Nord-Ost takeover. I believe they had him on tape.
Posted by: Fred || 02/15/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#8  Purely speculation, but wonder if this could be a Mossad hit, at the request of the Russians. The Russians would stand out in Qatar, but another "Arab" would hardly be noticed. Israel may be willing to act in exchange for a future favor. While I'm not sure if Mossad would use such a weapon, it certainly is well within their capabilities. It's also within their abilities not to get caught.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 12:33 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, it is not nice to boom people in third party countries, butYandarbiyev is a terrorist, and the third party country should make people like him persona non grata. Letting people like him hang out is just like the Taliban in Afghanistan, or the Black Turbans in Iran.

They have to realize that terrorists in their country are liabilities and not assets.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/15/2004 13:32 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Canadian troops nab one of Hek’s boyz
Canadians led a weekend raid that snatched a suspected key player from the terrorist organization of Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, The Canadian Press has learned. Officials say the man arrested in a mission ending early Saturday is not known to have a direct link to the suicide bombing that killed a Canadian soldier last month.
Not surprising, that attack was as "successful" as you can call a suicide bombing. Hek’s boyz are fairly incompetent lot.
However, Kabul police chief Gen. Baba Jan said ousted Taliban insurgents, al-Qaida fighters and Hekmatyar’s own rebels have formed a tight alliance that is spreading violence throughout the countryside and into Kabul. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the bomb blast that killed Cpl. Jamie Murphy and an Afghan civilian on Jan. 27. "These organizations are one and the same, but Hekmatyar is now the greatest threat, more dangerous than (Taliban leader) Mullah Omar or (Osama) bin Laden," Jan said, adding Hekmatyar is more familiar with Afghanistan’s power structure and the streets of Kabul than either of his two insurgent counterparts. He also controls more skilful fighters.
Evidence suggests otherwise ...
"His agents have infiltrated every level of Afghanistan society, so when something happens here, you know he has a hand in it," he said.
After all, they’re the Secret Army of Doom ...
In October, two soldiers died when at least one anti-tank landmine planted along their path blew up. Officials have suspected members of Hekmatyar’s rebel group, Hizb-I Islami Gulbuddin, of staging the attack. Canadian soldiers on the ground have suggested the latest attack on Canadians may have been linked to a raid on Hekmatyar associates, but Canadian generals denied any link.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:32:12 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  be on the lookout for the Motorcycle of Doom™ with the personalized "Heksboyz" license plates
Posted by: Frank G || 02/15/2004 9:32 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope the Canucks tenderize him some.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 11:32 Comments || Top||

#3  All they have to do is take him skinny-dipping in the Queen Elizabeth Islands. I'm sure he'll talk, once he thaws back out.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 12:03 Comments || Top||

#4  OP---Oh, the imagery! Been there, but did not do it...Heh heh. Take him to Beechy Island by the Franklin Expedition graves. Lots of polar bears looking for seal and other protein.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/15/2004 13:19 Comments || Top||

#5  AP: the US lost a military aircraft up there in the late 1970's. I was one of a half-dozen photo interpreters looking for the crash site. What a desolate piece of NOTHING! This was late August, and there was still ice and snow everywhere. Life expectancy of someone in the water was like 17 minutes. We looked for four days, and never found anything remotely resembling a crashed aircraft. I think the largest group of people we saw were two dozen. Give me Death Valley any day.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/15/2004 17:55 Comments || Top||


3 killed killed in southeastern Afghanistan
Three people, including a US soldier, were killed and 15 others wounded as violence erupted in southeastern Afghanistan where Taliban remnants are the most active in the country, officials said Saturday. The US soldier was killed and nine of his comrades were wounded when their vehicle hit a landmine Friday, a US military spokesman said. The blast came shortly after an Afghan soldier and a shopkeeper were killed and six others injured in a bomb attack. A US military base was also the target of a multiple rocket attack. The landmine explosion occurred near the city of Ghazni, US spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Bryan Hilferty said. But he said the incident should not be taken as an indication of an upswing in violence in the region because initial investigations revealed it ``was not enemy related’’.
Ummm... Whose landmine was it, Brian? A leftover from 20 years back? Don't these people ever clean up their messes?
``I think we would have to wait and see if this is an increase,’’ in attacks in general, Hilferty said. ``We don’t know for sure whether this is a temporary spike.’’ He said the 10th Mountain Division troops were patrolling the area when their Humvee hit the mine. Four of the wounded had minor injuries but two would be flown to Germany for treatment because they had serious but not life-threatening injuries, he said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:23:32 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
The US soldier was killed and nine of his comrades were wounded when their vehicle hit a landmine

The people who condemn landmines ought to take a moment to condemn this.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:36 Comments || Top||

#2  The 10th Mt Div is still doing Afganistan. That's a hell of a sword. I bow down.
Posted by: Lucky || 02/15/2004 1:30 Comments || Top||

#3  The 10th Mt. has been deployed for a long time... are they rotating the brigades?
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 11:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Yea,those folks been out there a long time.
I would think it is about time they got a break.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/15/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Al-Qaeda suspects may have been freed in the Fallujah attack
The attackers then headed to the nearby police station and freed 75 prisoners there, killing the guards and shooting open the cell doors, police Lt. Col. Jalal Sabri said. Witnesses said the ill-equipped compound defenders were clearly overwhelmed and outnumbered as insurgents moved with ease during the attacks. Some police were even unarmed at the time. "Their weapons were more powerful than our Kalashnikovs," police officer Earazan Abu Issa, who was outside the police station, told Reuters. Lt. Col. Sabri said the dead attackers were non-Iraqis and that two carried Lebanese passports. He also said the released detainees were criminals -- most arrested for murder or theft. "I suspect they were Arabs or Syrians or belonged to al Qaeda. They want to create instability and chaos," he said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:11:07 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dammit, this has to be fixed. We cannot tolerate a situation in which the police and the jailers can't defend themselves. Train more police, give them better training, supervise them better, provide them (carefully) with some heavier weapons, and -- very importantly -- start training an Iraqi-manned, Iraqi-led "rapid reaction force" that can get to these incidents quickly. Have that RRF supervised by our Marines or Army guys and train them rigorously.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  We cannot tolerate a situation where Al Quaida suspects are jailed in the Sunni triangle and guarded by Arabs. At the VERY LEAST they should have been moved to Shia Iraq or preferably to Kurdistan.
Posted by: JFM || 02/15/2004 2:36 Comments || Top||

#3  My question is: Where did the bad guys run to? How hard would it be to track them down? There's no place to hide.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 11:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Gitmo has its uses.
Posted by: Hiryu || 02/15/2004 11:33 Comments || Top||

#5  You guys are missing the most damned all important question here. Where the bloody hell are they getting their intel from? They knew when Abizaid's convoy was coming through and tried to hit it. They knew where the comrades where being jailed and hit it and at a time when there wasn't much US backup. Where the heck are they getting their intel from? I think its time to go a raiding into Fajullah and show them what we mean when we use an M1 as a door breaker.
Posted by: Valentine || 02/15/2004 15:02 Comments || Top||

#6  And they should start by grilling those policemen who were off duty - or were on and survived the attack. It certainly seems like an inside job. The additional fact that they were rescuing foreign asshats is significant - this fact outrages the Iraqi more than it does the CA. Tons of good will were lost in this raid, IMHO.

As Dr Steve sez, this has to stop. I believe, no surprise for old-timers, that the Sunni Triangle must be crushed - nothing else has worked and it's long past time to apply what we know will work with Arabs: unrelenting overwhelming unsympathetic blunt force.
Posted by: .com || 02/15/2004 17:08 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
4 Afghan mine-clearers shot dead
Four Afghans working to remove land mines were shot dead by suspected Taliban or Al Qaeda assailants pursuing them in a car in southern Afghanistan on Saturday, officials said. The governor of Farah Province, where the incident occurred, said he was sure the killings were the work of Taliban or Al Qaeda because the assailants did not take the mine-removal workers’ money or belongings. The governor, Abdul Hai Neamati, said by telephone, "In Farah it is the second attack by the enemy." He called the attack on these workers "cowardly."
It's kind of their hallmark, isn't it?
"All over Afghanistan, the enemy want to destabilize, destroy the security and create chaos; this is their goal," he added.
That's because it's so much easier to break than it is to make...
A spokesman for the United Nations Mine Action Center for Afghanistan confirmed that the victims were staff workers from the Afghan mine removal agency, Organization for Mine Clearance and Afghan Reconstruction. They had been traveling back to the western town of Herat from a supply trip to their teams working in Farar Province, in southwestern Afghanistan. The spokesman, Patrick Fruchet, said he did not know who the attackers were. "We do not know if they were Taliban or Al Qaeda, but it has shocked all our staff workers," he said. Three of the men who died were from Herat and one was from Kabul, he said. The wounded man died on the way to hospital, the governor said. The attack follows a shooting of census officials from Central Statistics Office in Farah in November in which one man was killed and another wounded, the governor said.
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#1  The people who protest against landmines ought to take a moment to condemn this.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Sorry, they only protest against American land mines. This killing can clearly be blamed on Bush. If it weren't for Bush's unilateral war in Afghanistan, the peaceful Taliban would still be in power, and this shooting would not have happened.
Posted by: gromky || 02/15/2004 7:11 Comments || Top||

#3  What, no sarcasm tag?
Posted by: Raj || 02/15/2004 10:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe they are protecting the Afghanistani mine refuge.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/15/2004 16:22 Comments || Top||

#5  The people who areclearing land miones in my opinion truely are doing Gods work. LMs really have limited tactical value (the US use of them in Korea is one of the few where theynmake sense ). In most regions of the world they are a terror weapon pure and simple. And how come we never hear abou they are manufacured
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 02/15/2004 19:41 Comments || Top||


Musharref attacks honor killings
President Pervez Musharraf on Tuesday pledged to address the issue of "honor killings" by dealing with the perpetrators in the harshest manner and called for a public debate on Hudood laws. "We must deal with culprits of honor killing most harshly with all the force available to the government," he said.... Equating the honor killing with murder, he called for an attitudinal change in dealing with the issue.

Commenting on the Hudood Ordinance 1979, he said it should be made open for discussion and correct understanding. .... A green signal for repeal of Hudood laws 1979, by initiating dialogue on the subject, gave the president a standing ovation from the audience.... "Whenever I come to know of any case (of honor killing), I take immediate action but unfortunately it is not a one man job," President Musharraf said. He urged those in authority to deal with cases of honor killings and not allow them to fall through "cracks in the legal system". "I would like to urge ... all those who are in positions of authority to try cases ... to show civilized behavior, to show that we are a tolerant, educated, progressive society and we do not tolerate honor killings," he said....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 12:06:42 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Death penalty works for me.
Posted by: Raptor || 02/15/2004 7:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Howzabout not calling them "honor" killings, for starters?
Posted by: snellenr || 02/15/2004 17:01 Comments || Top||


Part 2 of interview with Hamid Gul
Continuing on from Part 1
Retired Lieutenant General Hamid Gul, former head of Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence directorate, tells Contributing Editor Sheela Bhatt that the only reason Pakistan does not dismember India is because "we never wanted to create problems with our Muslim population in India." A startling interview that gives a glimpse of the Pakistani mindset, something that will confront Indian diplomats as they begin peace talks in Islamabad on Sunday.

What are your views on reports indicting Pakistan for nuclear proliferation?
Why should Pakistan be apologetic about it? Nuke proliferation started because of the US and Russia who have been distributing nuke technologies to their favourites. Israel is a undeclared nuclear power. Whether Pakistan has proliferated or not is not an issue at all. The important question is does a small country like Pakistan having bad experiences with India and three wars have right to possess nuclear weapons or not? The cause of war still exists over Kashmir. And we have not signed the proliferation treaty.

How can you justify nuclear proliferation?
Why are the Americans then distributing it to Israel? I fear the Americans will demand the joint custody of Pakistani nuclear assets. Or they may say that Pakistan will have to roll back. Even America is not afraid of the Pakistani bomb. It is Israel that is afraid of Pakistani nuclear weapons.

But President Musharraf has sided with America.
(Interrupting) Under duress. I don’t think his heart is in it. He has the same genes which I have. He was my student, he was my subordinate in the Pakistan army. We have served together. How can he be pro-America?

Is Musharraf anti-Indian as some people claim?
If you put aside Kashmir no Pakistani is anti-India. We like peace with India but not without settling Kashmir. Kashmir is Musharraf’s only problem.

What is the bigger issue? The American threat or Kashmir?
You can’t put it like that. We have to fight the American threats together. But it is not possible to surrender Kashmir to fight America together.

But India and Pakistan’s case is different. America is already on Pakistani soil.
It doesn’t matter. America is our bank account!! Just one uprising (against the American presence in Pakistan) and things will change. We are not afraid of the Americans, they can’t fight on the ground. We are only concerned about their high-altitude bombers. India and Pakistan must find a solution to their high-altitude bombers.

Why are you anti-India?
I am not anti-India. I am against the imperial streak in the Indian psyche. The 1947 riots had a deep impact on my mind. The Indians always lean towards imperial powers. Look at your special relationship with Jews. And now you are with America. Jinnah was right when he invited Ambedkar to join Pakistan. About 5% to 6% Brahmins dominate India. Where are the lower classes?

How do you define your own ideology?
I am an Islamist. Islam is the final destiny of mankind. Islam is moderate, Islam is progressive. Islam is everything that man needs. It is not necessary to become a Muslim but it is necessary to adopt the principles of Islam. Naseem Azavi and Iqbal’s writings have influenced my thinking.

What will be the minimum demand from Pakistan to India over Kashmir?
Musharraf is saying he expects the Chenab line to be accepted by India. Many Pakistanis might go with him but would Kashmiris agree with them? Also, our discomfort over the leaks of proliferation must not ease India. Dr (A Q) Khan is our hero. Nobody can dare touch him. If India has a problem with Pakistan why don’t you give Kashmir to Kashmiris? Indians have a deep-rooted prejudice against Pakistanis. Not one Indian intellectual is ready to say that let Kashmiris have freedom.

As ISI chief you have observed India. Do you still feel India can give their land to Pakistan?
India will. India will give its land when it will be divided into many pieces. India will have to break. If India does not give us our land we will go to war and divide India. This time America helped India.

When you were ISI chief you were closely monitoring India

(interrupts) We never wanted to create problems with our Muslim population in India. Otherwise, believe me, India is so fragile. India has such weak joints that if we want we could strike these weak joints then India will dismember. But we don’t want India to break.

Weak joints?
India is ridden with problems. I am not talking about Muslims. There are many other weak joints. Indians have strong fissiparous tendencies, which is absent in Pakistan. One can easily exploit it politically. Because of Indian Muslims it is not in our interest to break India.

So he wants India to join Pakistan in confronting America, but only after India gives up Kashmir. If they don’t, Pakistan will invade and divide India, except they won’t because they want the Muslim minority to be protected. I see know how Gul as earned his reputation as one of the foremost strategic Islamist thinkers.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 02/15/2004 12:05:17 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gul is a Muttahida-Majlis-e-Amal agent, who wants Paki nukes to be put under the control of jihadis.
Posted by: Anonymous || 02/15/2004 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2 
Indians have strong fissiparous tendencies, which is absent in Pakistan

Fissiparous: Reproducing by fission.

Fission: Biol. The divison of an organism into new organisms as a process of reproduction.

Fission: Physics The splitting of the nucleus of an atom into nuclei of lighter atoms, accompanied by the release of energy.

Fissirostral: Having a broad, deeply cleft beak or bill, as the swallows and goatsuckers.

Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 02/15/2004 0:52 Comments || Top||

#3  will no one rid us of this islamist dwarf air burglar--we need black ops -- a car bomb or armed pakistani donkey with rpgs--i'm sure many midget houris and pearl-like youths are waiting for him in paradise-- puhleeze give him an early checkin!!
Posted by: SON OF TOLUI || 02/15/2004 3:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Whether Pakistan has proliferated or not is not an issue at all
Maybe when Iran has nukes & you realise they aren't all aimed at Israel it may become more of an issue...
We are not afraid of the Americans, they can’t fight on the ground.
Except in Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea...
About 5% to 6% Brahmins dominate India. Where are the lower classes?
Let's see, India's had a dalit President (K.R. Narayanan) & it's current President's a Muslim & low caste politicos have run Uttar Pradesh & Bihar recently (Mulayam Singh Yadav's still Chief Minister of UP.) Doesn't Pakistan still have a wee problem with the influence wielded by the old feudal classes BTW?
India will have to break.
Just like we broke when we lost Bangladesh & when we had the uprising in Balochistan... despite all that there are no centrifugal tendencies in Pakistan - perish the thought!
Posted by: Dave || 02/15/2004 3:59 Comments || Top||

#5  Dave's right! The guy is a phantasist. And eriely reminiscent of Marxist/socialist phantasies.
Posted by: phil_b || 02/15/2004 5:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Gul was a welcome visitor to the Second Popular Arab and Islamic Conference held in Khartoum in December 1993. There he melded with PAIC founder Hasan al-Turabi, and other Islamist visitors including Bin Laden and Zawahiri. In sum, he has been, and remains, a dangerous jihadist.
Posted by: Tancred || 02/15/2004 7:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Islam is moderate, Islam is progressive. Islam is everything that man needs

Sounds like the lyrics of a forgotten Gilbert & Sullivan piece.
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 8:38 Comments || Top||

#8  Dave, excellent analysis. India did have serious fissiparous tendencies, by no longer. In the 1980s the Punjab seemed headed for seccession (ever see a "Free Khalistan" bumber sticker?), but it is now at peace. Earlier, when India was pushing Hindi as a common national language, the entire south was restive. But then India settled on English (much to the country's economic benefit), and that issue ended. Today its just the northeast fringe (Nagaland, Manipur, etc.), that remains trouble, but no big deal. Gul evidently hasn't noticed the change. With a name like Gul, I assume that he is Pashtun -- is he?
Posted by: closet neo-con || 02/15/2004 13:51 Comments || Top||

#9  Shipman, perhaps you are thinking of the al-Gilbert and Suleiman song that starts out "I am the very model of a modern ISI Lieutenant General"?
Posted by: SteveS || 02/15/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#10  He went to Khartoum and with Turabi, bin Laden and Zawahiri he had a little rape party on some captured Khafir women and boys.
Posted by: JFM || 02/15/2004 13:57 Comments || Top||

#11  Yes! That's it SteveS.... now I've got an evil ear-worm.

If I had only a little ambition.... rewriting the lyics from the al-Gilbert & Suleiman POV would shake the world. LOL
Posted by: Shipman || 02/15/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#12  Dunno what Hamid's ethnicity is, but yeah, isn't Gul pashto for flower/petal or somesuch thing? Not really very macho is it - hasn't the poor man heard of deed polls?
Re: Turabi - Sic transit gloria mundi! I almost feel sorry for him, it can't be very nice to have your protege & your (supposedly) tame dictator gang up on you like that. IIRC even his former Islamist friends have turned on him for not being mad enough, a tragic end for the guy Janes once described as the 'Philosopher Prince' of militant Islam - get a goblet pleeze!
Posted by: Dave || 02/15/2004 18:08 Comments || Top||

#13  Dr (A Q) Khan is our hero. Nobody can dare touch him.

Wrong about that too- poor fella.
Posted by: B || 02/16/2004 8:09 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Ansar al-Islam v. 2.0
A terrorist group with ties to Al Qaeda that escaped a U.S.-led attack last March has regrouped and is involved in the wave of car bombings and other recent suicide attacks that have killed and wounded hundreds in Iraq, U.S. and Iraqi officials said. Some members of Ansar al-Islam fled into Iran from their enclave in Kurdish-controlled northern Iraq last March as U.S. and Kurdish troops closed in. Now they’re returning to become a terrorist threat in postwar Iraq.

U.S. and Kurdish officials say they believe Ansar has regrouped in small Iranian towns near the border. Members have been returning to Iraq to train Iraqis in building bombs and advocating their extremist view of Islam that sanctions suicide bombings. The Kurdish officials said their assessment is based on intercepted phone calls, interrogations of captured Ansar members and documents confiscated from detainees. A high-ranking U.S. Army official in Baghdad confirmed that the U.S. military suspects Ansar has been involved in bombings across Iraq, including one last August that killed more than 80 in the southern city of Najaf, and most of the recent suicide bombings in and around Baghdad. "We’ve seen elements of what we think are Ansar Islam throughout Iraq," the Army official said. He requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of intelligence in Iraq, and possible conflicts with official statements from U.S.-led coalition officials in Baghdad.

Intelligence officials in Washington are skeptical that Ansar is playing a leading role in the attacks on coalition forces and Iraqis who cooperate with the U.S.-led occupation. The officials said that though the Bush administration is quick to highlight alleged links between Al Qaeda and Iraq and to blame the violence on foreigners, the attacks are largely the work of Sunni Muslim Iraqis. The Army official in Baghdad said, however, that military intelligence has detected some cooperation between the two. The official cautioned that "it’s very, very hard to penetrate" the groups, however, and U.S. officials previously blamed the August Najaf bombing on a dissident Shi’ite cleric, Moqtada al Sadr.

Kurdish officials suggest Iran might be playing a role in the flow of Ansar fighters across its border. Kosrat Rasul, who commanded the Kurdish troops in the fighting against Ansar last spring, said Iran not only kept its borders open, but also sat back while Ansar sympathizers helped the fighters escape. "We saw with our own eyes" that the Iranians "brought their vehicles and transported them into Iran," said Rasul, who wouldn’t say whether he thought those who helped Ansar members were acting alone or in concert with Iranian officials. A spokesman at the Iranian Embassy in Baghdad, who refused to give his name, denied that any Ansar fighters entered Iran.

Dan Senor, a top U.S. spokesman in Baghdad, said American officials in Iraq are very worried about Iran. "We have serious concerns about Iranian intentions in Iraq," he said. "We have had concerns for some time about the influx of terrorists over the borders. We would hope that the Iranian government was more cooperative in protecting against the influx of unhelpful elements." The Ansar fighters who last year scampered over the mountains with AK47 rifles on their shoulders have returned shaven and wearing Western-style clothes, said Hikmat Mohammad Karim, a top Kurdish politician. After crossing into Iraq, said Karim, Ansar members spread out to recruit members in local mosques.

The Ansar fighters also have formed alliances of convenience with local Saddam Hussein loyalists, providing them with training and expertise in making improvised bombs and conducting guerrilla warfare, Karim said. In return, the Hussein loyalists provide safe houses, weapons and money. While it’s not clear how widespread Ansar’s influence is, the group clearly is active. Ansar has been accused of playing a part in several bombings -- including explosions at a United Nations building and the Jordanian Embassy in Baghdad last August -- but the group had not until recently taken responsibility for the blasts.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 02/15/2004 12:05:08 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Hello, Khatami, this is Paul Bremer."
"You Zionist dog! How dare you call me on my telephone!"
"Lissen, I don't have much time to converse with you. But a small tip -- "
"I don't listen to anything you American dogs say!"
"-- yeah, yeah, sure-- those Ansar boys on your border? You ought to control them, or we will. Violently. Soon."
"What was it you just said?"
"Bye." [click]
Posted by: Steve White || 02/15/2004 0:26 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Gambia in 1998 al-Qaeda terrorist plot
Details that might partially vindicate deep-seated misgivings about al-Qaeda’s fledgling interest in The Gambia have thrown intriguing insights into the terror network’s least known abortive attempt to bomb the American embassy in Banjul in the summer of 1998. Holy War INC a non-hysterical, 300-page book published in the United States last year by CNN terrorism analyst Peter Bergen graphically outlined how in the weeks that followed the American embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, Bin Laden zealots scattered in every part of Africa targeted the American embassy in Banjul as part of a wider terrorist plot to sabotage American interests wherever they might be across the continent. Special directives were given by members of al-Qaeda’s high echelon to bomb the embassy located along Kairaba Avenue, the main glitzy artery of the Greater Banjul Area, whose outer entrance was sealed off with steel railings as the United States gathered intelligence reports putting the terror network in the spotlight as the mastermind of possible attacks that were supposed to come after the American foreign missions in east Africa were bombed.

The supposed attack on America’s Banjul embassy was delayed and subsequently put off partially because there was no "willing hands" ready to execute the plan, a situation blamed on the fact that there were no Gambians initiated either as members of al-Qaeda or associates of the terror network, which was blamed for the Nairobi and Dar es Salam bombings months before and the more spectacular attacks on New York and Washington three years later. This also coincided with increasing awareness on the part of American intelligence that Bin Laden followers were on the verge of striking American targets in Africa, and that eight African countries were at potential risks from al-Qaeda terror outrage namely The Gambia, Senegal, Togo, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Liberia, Uganda and Mozambique. According to Holy War INC, American diplomatic facilities around the world received 650 "credible threats" from Bin Laden’s network in the six months following the 1998 embassy bombings.

Since September 2001, there has been haphazard attempts to link The Gambia to al-Qaeda members and their activities although none came so close in terms of credibility until two years ago when some men of middle eastern extraction were arrested in The Gambia for alleged links to the terror network and subsequently taken to the US air force base in Bagram, Afghanistan where terror suspects are still being held.
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