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-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Clapper Says He's 'Fantasized' about a 'National Fact-Checker' for Social Media
[PJ] WASHINGTON -- Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper suggested the creation of a "national fact checker" who would monitor social media for false information.

"I've often fantasized about some sort of national fact-checker -- unassociated with the government, perhaps," said Clapper, who served in the Obama administration as the director of National Intelligence from 2010-2017, during the Washington Post's Cybersecurity Summit on Wednesday. "I don't know quite how you would constitute this that the fact-checker would be seen as uniformly, universally credible, but somebody like that, that could verify or refute what's being said out there particularly on social media."
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/03/2019 12:50 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336069 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How.... "Ministry of Truth" like.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/03/2019 12:51 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sure Snopes thinks it's up to the task.
Posted by: Raj || 10/03/2019 13:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Jim Clapper 'fantasizing about facts.' Somehow I find that entirely believable.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2019 15:27 Comments || Top||

#4  He's describing the kind of anomaly detection algorithms that China's now using in its "social credit" scheme.

Typical of our idiot political class to think that Truth is something that elites can devise a system to produce.

What a shitty generation we have leading us. The Shittiest Generation.
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 16:21 Comments || Top||

Court to Rule if Boris Can Be Jailed for Refusing to Delay Brexit
Jailed? Their bewigged mightinesses are getting a tad over-enthusiastic, methinks.
[BREITBART] A Scottish judge could force Prime Minister Boris Johnson
...pro-Brexit British prime minister, succeeding no-Brexit Theresa May. BoJo is noted as much for his sparkling personality and his hair as for his Conservative policies....
to request a Brexit extension or face a fine or imprisonment.

The legal bid has been launched by anti-Brexit campaigner Jolyon Maugham QC and member of the leftist Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP) Joanna Cherry. Both were involved in the successful Supreme Court challenge against the government over the suspension of parliament last week. The case is being funded by millionaire green energy
... the attempt to produce energy without using fossil fuel. The preferred methods are solar, wind, geothermal, phlogiston, philosophers' stones, and rattling bears' teeth. The approach with the most promise involves attaching generators to perpetual motion machines, but using Words of Power to summon energy-rich demons may also work. The green in the term refers to the vast number of dollars that have been thrown at the problem since 1973 with indifferent results...
industrialist Dale Vince.

Lord Pentland, an Outer House judge, will hear the case at the Court of Session in Edinburgh on Friday. He will rule whether it should be moved to the senior part of the court, the Inner House, on Monday according to The Scotsman.

Last month, the British parliament passed a law, the Benn Act, which forces the prime minister to seek an extension of Article 50 to the end of January 2020 if he fails to pass a deal in the Commons by October 19th. The law also prevents Boris Johnson from taking the UK out of the EU without an agreement on October 31st.

death is not the end. There remains the litigation over the estate...
Remain activists fear that Johnson’s team will exploit loopholes in the law and deliver Brexit on October 31st, as the prime minister has pledged "without or without a deal". Last week, a Downing Street front man said that the government "will comply with the law, but we are leaving on 31 October".
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336071 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Brexit will be the Stalingrad of the EU!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2019 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Both Donald and Boris seem to have the power to drive their enemies batshit crazy. Must be the hair or something.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/03/2019 0:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Both were involved in the successful Supreme Court challenge against the government over the suspension of parliament last week.

I.e. - the courts are firmly on their side.
Posted by: Raj || 10/03/2019 8:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Brits haven't had a civil war in about 350 years or so. Maybe they're due.
Posted by: PBMcL || 10/03/2019 19:06 Comments || Top||

Fifth Column
Iowa Hawk notice Yang skateboards Beto doesn't.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/03/2019 10:58 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336072 views] Top|| File under: Commies

Home Front: Politix
From the memory hole - Other Biden family dysfunctions and dodgy legal fixes
[NYP June 9, 2017] The wild-child niece of former Veep Joe Biden stole more than $100,000 in a credit card scam ‐ and quietly cut a plea deal in Manhattan court that spares her any jail time, The Post has learned.

Using a borrowed credit card, the blonde Caroline Biden
...she has her very own tag at the New York Post...
set up an unauthorized customer account at Bigelow Pharmacy on Sixth Avenue in Greenwich Village, and racked up the six-figure bill over the course of a year, according to a criminal complaint that does not name the victim card owner.

As part of a plea deal before Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Kevin McGrath, Biden, 29, pleaded guilty to one charge of grand larceny and another of petit larceny and agreed to make restitution of $110,810.04.

If she pays everything back and keeps her nose clean, she can return to court and enter a substitute plea to a lower, misdemeanor charge of petit larceny and be sentenced to two years probation.
clever reference to Hunter "the vacuum"
But she’ll stay out of jail even if she fails to live up to the plea deal, instead getting sentenced on the felony larceny to five years probation.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2019 08:52 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336069 views] Top|| File under:

Hillary is upset Trump is using a SECURE server! Seriously!
It seems that Hillary believes everybody should used UNSECURE servers like she did!

Posted by: 3dc || 10/03/2019 00:34 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336067 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not Bee?

Whiskey Tango... ?

Shitshow, Part 111.
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:38 Comments || Top||

#2  You mean Trump is using a secure government server unlike The Hildabeest? [IMHO power hungry and corrupted Hillary is trying for a 3rd run.]
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 8:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Yup - I had The Bee as well. To this day it still nearly amazes me that this bitter battleax gets zero pushback from her fellow Democrats the mainstream press.
Posted by: Raj || 10/03/2019 8:22 Comments || Top||

#4  [IMHO power hungry and corrupted Hillary is trying for a 3rd run.]

With Sanders getting a heart attack and Biden flailing in the polls, now would be as good as time as any. Plus - I hear she and Warren really don't like each other - let them fight.
Posted by: Raj || 10/03/2019 8:26 Comments || Top||

#5  If they cancel each other out the Dems can fall back on Avenatti.
Posted by: Daniel || 10/03/2019 12:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Bee or The Onion
Posted by: Clem || 10/03/2019 18:43 Comments || Top||

Biden's Done: Warren's Overtaken Him
[RealClearPolitics] 2020 Democratic Presidential Nomination Polls (9/19-10/1)
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336064 views] Top|| File under:

#1  With Sanders and Harris dropping off, the only two Dems who are showing any strength or vitality now are Spouting Bull and ButtBoy.

That's the ticket as it were
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  I doubt Joe will have the stomach to run as Warren's VP, and neither will Sanders. So the Dems might have a Warren/Harris or Warren/Butt ticket to compete against Trump?

That's genius.
Posted by: Beau || 10/03/2019 3:19 Comments || Top||

Stephen Miller: ‘The Deep State is Terrified of Being Exposed’
[THECONSERVATIVETREEHOUSE] White House Senior Policy Adviser, Stephan Miller, appears on Fox Business with Lou Dobbs to explain the apoplexy coming from DC’s administrative state. Miller outlines the deep fear held by many in the professional political class in/around DC toward ongoing investigations by U.S. AG Bill Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham.

In framing the opposition to the Trump administration, Mr. Miller identifies the Marxist roots that bind governmental ideologues in united resistance. Impeachment is their best hope of defense.
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336073 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sunlight will do wonders to drain The Swamp.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 8:10 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a big - little town, they (Washington establishment) all know whats's going on, but strangely, they assume everyone outside the beltway are witless morons. I do hope their fears are fully justified.

I don't suppose there is any connection btwn the recent announcements of large number of D.C. pols leaving or retiring. Coincidental no doubt.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2019 8:20 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd really like to go after their pensions, if there was a legal way to do so.
Posted by: ruprecht || 10/03/2019 10:21 Comments || Top||

#4  An executive order declaring that employees of the executive branch or former employees who plead the fifth about their government service lose their pensions, might do the job.
This is in the interest of transparency of federal behavior.
Posted by: Daniel || 10/03/2019 12:09 Comments || Top||

#5  They've been exposed over and over again.

Hell, they brag about what they're doing.

They aren't afraid at all.
Posted by: charger || 10/03/2019 20:16 Comments || Top||

Barr Went to Rome to Hear a Secret Tape From Joseph Mifsud
[THEDAILYBEAST] When Attorney General William Barr showed up at the U.S. embassy’s Palazzo Margherita here on tony Via Veneto last week, he had two primary requests. He needed a conference room to meet high-level Italian security agents where he could be sure no one was listening in. And he needed an extra chair for U.S. Attorney John Durham of Connecticut, who would be sitting in as his right-hand man.

Barr was in Rome on an under-the-radar mission that was only planned a few days in advance. An official with the embassy confirmed to The Daily Beast that they had to scramble to accommodate Barr’s sudden arrival. He had been in Italia before, but not with such a clear motive. Barr and Durham are looking into the events that led to Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation, and suddenly all roads were leading to Rome.

The Daily Beast has learned that Barr and Durham were especially interested in what the Italian secret service knew about Joseph Mifsud, the erstwhile professor from Malta who had allegedly promised then-candidate Donald Trump
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336074 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More on Link University, Mifsud's stomping grounds.

Tightly connected to CIA.
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 2:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Globalist Euro think tank and high per-diem agent recruitment farm.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2019 2:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Some enterprising individual ought create an entire line of Link University T shirts, hoodies, whatever it takes for every sport, bogus or not known to man. "Varsity Ferret Legging ' for starters. A 'Deep State, Deep Swamp Cajun Holiday' themed cookbook.
Posted by: Cesare || 10/03/2019 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  As Insty would say "Faster Please!!"

I'm really getting tired of this farting around that never seems to come to a conclusion.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/03/2019 10:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Who's the PM in Italy these days? Did he ever talk on the phone with Trump?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/03/2019 11:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Schifferbrains wants the transcript.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/03/2019 12:19 Comments || Top||

#7  #3 Some enterprising individual ought create an entire line of Link University T shirts, hoodies,

Link U., Home of the Whistleblowers

Maybe a mascot that looks like a cross between a Boilermaker and the Fighting Irishman, but with a CIA lanyard around his neck and an angry/determined Dilbert face + a short-sleeved white shirt & tie.

Or maybe a Brennanite scowl...
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 14:01 Comments || Top||

#8  The Popdopolus connection from the Mifsud meeting and his US Customs luggage inspection for the 10k gave me a clear understanding of how deep the corruption has gone. The need to ramp up the impeachment noise to crazytown levels reflects how seriously outed this conspiracy is becoming. There are some very frightened people in high places playing hardball to cover crimes.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/03/2019 19:16 Comments || Top||

Americans Have Every Reason To Be Suspicious Of The Whistleblower Complaint
[THEFEDERALIST] For two years, our political and media elites assured us that a wide-ranging independent counsel investigation of Russia’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 election would reveal that the Trump campaign, and indeed Trump himself, colluded with Moscow to steal the election. The Robert Mueller probe, we were told, would prove it.

Not only did that turn out to be false, but as the investigation dragged on it became clear that the origins of the probe were highly suspicious, implicating senior intelligence officials in the B.O. regime and raising questions about whether the whole thing was a political hit job from the start.

Now those same political and media elites are assuring us that Trump has broken the law and must be removed from office‐not for colluding with Russia, but for pressuring Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to dig up dirt on Joe Foreign Policy Whiz Kid Biden
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336066 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In fact, everything about the Ukraine affair thus far has the same stink as the origins of the Russia probe‐the suspicious actions of unelected intelligence community babus bureaucrats, the hysterical proclamations of congressional Democrats, the uniform efforts of the media to distort every aspect of the story in the service of an impeachment narrative. Sound familiar?

EC, are you listening?
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:36 Comments || Top||

#2  1. This whistleblower needs to file his complaint in a court of law instead of hiding behind whistleblower rules designed to be abused by nefarious coup-intended shady operators.
2. The complaint is all based on hearsay that would never make it into a court.
3. Shifty rule changes prior to th BS complaint being filed.
4. Brennan's fingers are over this.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 8:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Ok, so I'll throw it out there and see if it sticks:

Hunter was a morally corrupt cock up and family embarrassment who couldn't hold a regular job so Joe helped him land a Klingon stringer gig.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/03/2019 8:27 Comments || Top||

#4  How do we know there actually is a "whistle blower"? What if this is another operation like the dossier and Schiff made it all up with some accomplices?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/03/2019 9:31 Comments || Top||

#5  As far as I can tell the rules requiring "whistleblowers" to have first hand knowledge of misdeeds by intelligence officers are imbedded in the law that created the status and procedures for whistleblowers, That law cannot be changed without a new law passed by congress and signed by the president. That has not happened. Changing forms does not change the law,
Posted by: Daniel || 10/03/2019 12:17 Comments || Top||

Democrat Thugs in Congress: They Violated Rules -- Told State Dept. Officials ‘Not to Contact’ Legal Counsel before Testimony
[THEGATEWAYPUNDIT] Secretary of State Pompeo told news hounds he was on the July 25th Ukrainian call which would be expected. He also said the policy with Ukraine is consistent. Of course, this is what the liberal media latched onto.

But then Pompeo dropped these bombs on the street thugs and goons running the US House committees.

Pompeo told news hounds how Democrats in the House violated fundamental principles, contacted State Department officials directly and told them NOT to contact legal counsel.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: Back to first principles. The predicate of your final question about objecting to what the folks on Capitol Hill have asked. It’s fundamentally not true. What we objected to was the demands that were put that deeply violate the fundamental principle of separation of powers. They contacted State Department employees directly. They told them NOT to contact legal counsel at the State Department. That’s been reported to us. They said the the State Department wouldn’t be able to be present. There are important constitutional prerogatives that the executive branch has to be present so that we can protect the important information so our partners, countries like Italia, can have confidence that the information they provide can have with the State Department will continue to be protected. So the response that I provided them was one that could acknowledge that we will of course do our constitutional duty to cooperate with this co-equal branch but we are going to do so in a way that is consistent with the fundamental values of the American system. And we won’t tolerate folks on Capital Hill bullying, intimidating State Department employees.
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336069 views] Top|| File under:

#1  But what's going to happen? NOTHING What ramifications will there be for these Democrap thugs? NONE
Posted by: Clem || 10/03/2019 18:47 Comments || Top||

Schiff Show: That Time This Top Democrat Said He Never Spoke With Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower...It Was A Lie
[TOWNHALL] Rep. Adam Schiff
...Showboating U.S. Representative for California's 28th congressional district since 2013. A member of the Democratic Party, Schiff has served in Congress since 2001. He currently serves as the chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. In a manner reminiscent of Joe McCarthy, on March 22, 2017, in a interview with Chuck Todd on MSNBC Schiff claimed there was “more than circumstantial evidence now” that Donald Trump
...Perhaps no man has ever had as much fun being president of the US...
's campaign colluded with Russia." Todd followed up by asking if he had seen direct evidence of collusion and Schiff responded that there was "evidence that is not circumstantial and is very much worthy of investigation...
(D-CA) is a snake. Period. There’s no way around it. He’s part of the cabal of anti-Trump Democrats who pushed the Russian collusion myth for two years. Actually, he and the rest of his clown crew haven’t but we have a new front in this war against Trump. The Trump-Ukraine phone call that the Left thought would be their ticket to impeachment.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336066 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heard that Shit wrote the complaint for the blower.
Posted by: Phaick Uneretle6310 || 10/03/2019 0:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Shitshow, Part 108.

This guy reminds you of Mary McCarthy's comment about Lillian Hellman: "Every word she writes is a lie, including 'a' and 'the.'"
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Also: Can someone please explain WTF an intelligence agent is ensconced inside the White House?

Does our Constitution even mean anything to these people?
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:03 Comments || Top||

#4  I think it was Mark Twain who said that 1000 true statements did not make you a truth-teller, but one lie made you a liar.
Posted by: SR-71 || 10/03/2019 2:45 Comments || Top||

#5  That's what judges tell juries in this country. A witness who lies in one matter is not to be believed in any other matter.
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 2:48 Comments || Top||

#6  1. Why does Schiff have any currency with anyone?
2. The guy is corrupt and a proven liar.
3. Why is he still in Congress?
4. It is time for the voters to do something for the country and dump this jackass in the coming election.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 7:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Impeach Schiff!!!!!
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/03/2019 8:35 Comments || Top||

#8  4. It is time for the voters to do something for the country and dump this jackass in the coming election.

See - my crook is better than your crook.

Personally, I can blame the Newt. Term limits were part of the deal he dropped. How many of these clowns (in both parties) would be here today if term limits were passed in the early 90s?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/03/2019 10:21 Comments || Top||

#9  We tried term limits for the California state legislature. It didn't work. Today our state legislators are as leftist and crooked as you can possibly imagine. It is apparently easy for the villains who sponsor them to find stooges to take their places.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/03/2019 13:09 Comments || Top||

#10  notice that it is the NYTimes that is breaking this

they may be playing it straight or maybe decided it would be better to get this out of the way before the impeachment witnesses are shown on TV
Posted by: lord garth || 10/03/2019 13:17 Comments || Top||

Trump must be impeached, jailed in solitary confinement: Waters
[PRESSTV] US President Donald Trump
...dictatorial for repealing some (but not all) of the diktats of his predecessor, misogynistic because he likes pretty girls, homophobic because he doesn't think gender bending should be mandatory, truly a man for all seasons......
should not only be impeached but tossed in the calaboose
I ain't sayin' nuttin' widdout me mout'piece!
and that in a solitary confinement says, Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, Representative Mugshots/maxine-waters.jpg
U.S. Representative for California's 43rd congressional district, serving since 1991, a total of 27.83767513651228 years. A member of the Democratic Party, she is the most senior of the 12 black women currently serving in the United States Congress, is a member and former chair of the Congressional Black Caucus. Before becoming a member of Congress she served in the California Assembly, to which she was first elected back when Disco was in flower, in 1976, which would make it 42.835621748421936 years. She has been a politician for virtually all her adult life. If she was brighter she'd be a Communist...
Comrade Maxine Waters
Right. And he oughta be whipped with snakes every hour on the hour!
One of the first Democrats to call for the president’s impeachment, Waters made the comment in Tuesday.
She first called for impeachment about the time he was being inaugurated, if not before.
The politician’s tweet came in response to Trump’s attacks on the intelligence community whistleblower complaint that has sparked a formal impeachment inquiry by House Democrats.

"I'm calling on the GOP to stop Trump's filthy talk of whistleblowers being spies & using mob language implying they should be killed. Impeachment is not good enough for Trump. He needs to be imprisoned & placed in solitary confinement. But for now, impeachment is the imperative," she said.

Trump has apparently pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe Foreign Policy Whiz Kid Biden
...When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'...
, his potential opponent for the 2020 presidential election, and his son, Hunter, before Kiev can receive the US military aid.

The president is trying to find the whistleblower, whose revelations lie at the heart of the impeachment proceedings.

Posted by: Fred || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336071 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Would be interesting to see the people who keep electing her.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2019 0:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Shitshow, Part 110.

This specimen is not merely stupid; she's one of the most corrupt clowns in the entire Congressional shitshow.

Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 1:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Sub-freezing IQ.
Posted by: SR-71 || 10/03/2019 2:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Look at her bank accounts before you make such determinations SR-71. Selling out fellow African-Americans may not be as lucrative a business as selling out USA to China/Saudia/EU, but it's lucrative enough.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2019 3:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Non Neanderthal
Posted by: Uleck Spererong9442 || 10/03/2019 5:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Look at her bank accounts before you make such determinations SR-71.

There is always money to be make fleecing the rubes. Some congress-critters and race hustlers have turned selling snake oil into an art form.
Posted by: SteveS || 10/03/2019 6:31 Comments || Top||

#7  drive through Compton for an insight into her constituents. more than happy to pull the lever for her if it means a comfortable life of sitting in the front yard smoking blunts for life.
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 10/03/2019 7:05 Comments || Top||

#8  Another loudmouthed gem of the Dem part who has enriched herself in corrupted politics and held office for far too long.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 7:48 Comments || Top||

#9  No iron mask?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/03/2019 9:08 Comments || Top||

#10  LOCK HIM UP!!!
Posted by: Thomose B. Hayes3476 || 10/03/2019 10:03 Comments || Top||

#11  Good idea, wrong target.
Posted by: ruprecht || 10/03/2019 10:13 Comments || Top||

#12  I can't even read or listen to anything this woman says anymore. She's too far gone over the rainbow.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/03/2019 13:11 Comments || Top||

#13  Jessie Waters from Fox News should move to her district and get on the ballot and hope that ballot confusion on the names gets him elected.
Posted by: ruprecht || 10/03/2019 14:40 Comments || Top||

Impeachment is regime suicide
[SPECTATOR.US] Impeachment is a regime counter-attack against a man elected to bring about change. ​And while impeachment is certainly constitutional, it is an elite procedure not a democratic one. The prestige media has passed the first judgment on whether it’s warranted in this case. (It is, they say.)

The Democratic House will investigate and then ‐ inevitably, if they’re not to lose the faith of their own voters ‐ bring articles of impeachment. Ultimately, the Senate will hold the trial (if Mitch McConnell can’t delay it until the election), and Trump will almost certainly be acquitted on a partisan vote. Instead of showing, as the Nixon and Clinton impeachments did, that party isn’t quite everything and some establishment cohesion remains, the failure of the Trump impeachment will deepen the divisions of 2016 and sharpen the question of regime legitimacy. A mistaken premise ‐ overestimation of support for the ruling class and their rules ‐ will lead to the regime losing rather than gaining credibility. This will be most obvious among the activist wing of the Republican party, but the effects won’t stop there.

​The old saying is that if you strike at a king, be sure to kill him. In this case, the regime is striking not a king but at the very idea that an elected official can challenge the establishment. This risks revealing just how weak the country’s ruling class really is: if 40 percent of the country remains with Trump through the ordeal of impeachment, that will show that 40 percent is anti-regime ‐ revolutions are made with less. And that 40 percent would be a floor, not a ceiling; a starting point for a future anti-regime movement.

The moderate path here is the one that eschews impeachment and instead shows that the elite still has faith in elections. Let the voters decide whether they want to defend the ’norms’ of the regime, and even if they decide not to ‐ by re-electing Trump ‐ the regime will have lost less credibility than it stands to through a failed attempt
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at impeachment. Legitimacy is bleeding away from American politics and society, and Trump is a symptom not the cause. The cause is the folly of America’s leadership class as a whole. Electing Trump was the public’s way of impeaching that class.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/03/2019 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [336076 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The fall of the Roman Republic was marked by vast corrupt bribes to buy government positions, more corruption to pay for the bribes once in office, and finally attacks on those losing (or being forced out) of those positions. The US has had a good run of peaceful transitions and it would be a shame if 2020 marked the inexorable slide from Republic to Oligarchy...
Posted by: magpie || 10/03/2019 2:43 Comments || Top||

#2  It's definitely higher than 40%.

Probably 60 million Americans work as white-collar, educated employees inside state or federal government, other nonprofits, or large "woke" corporations outside of the oil/gas/chemicals, agribusiness and construction sectors.

These are deep-blue environments where anything that could be construed as even remotely pro-Trump is verboten.

Of those 60m white-collar employees, at least a third are moderate, or moderate-to-conservative or conservative: 20 million potential college-educated Trump supporters surrounded by "woke," virulently anti-Trump colleagues, HR departments, and virtue-signalling senior execs.

Of the 20 million, maybe a quarter are openly pro-Trump, maybe another quarter are genuinely NeverTrumpers, and the remaining 10 million are either on the fence or underground.

How many of the 10 million are secretly pro-Trump-- secretly because to reveal their inclinations would be to risk retaliation, denunciation, ostracism-- perhaps even professional suicide or bankruptcy? 7 million?

7 million underground pro-Trump voters would amount to 11 percent of Trump's 2016 vote total, or about 5.5% of the electorate.

Are these voters, who face ruin if they let anyone around them know they support this president, really going to voluntarily open up to anonymous polling companies who call them?

Isn't it obvious that the polling numbers are seriously undercounting Trump's actual support - by at least 5 or 6 points?

How many others are there who don't fall into this white-collar group but nonetheless are underground Trump supporters?

We'll know next November. Don't be surprised if Trump wins easily.
Posted by: Lex || 10/03/2019 2:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Voting is always better than killing.. The Marines take an oath to support the President and defend the Constitution.. Who does the Army support? The Military stays out of politics for a reason.

The Praetorians could be bought. And the Legions fought for their Generals who paid them. And the Legions could always march on Rome...Brutus died at the battle of Philippi? And Octavian was the adopted heir of Julius....he executed Anthony in Egypt. or forced his suicide and saw Cleopatra handed the Asp.

Posted by: Angilet Cheash8665 || 10/03/2019 4:42 Comments || Top||

#4  Legions fought for their Generals who paid them could get them land as a unit bonus.

p.s. In USA, generals don't pay. And can't get land or any other bonus.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/03/2019 6:01 Comments || Top||

#5  ..but in Rome, most of the upper class didn't have the money either to personally pay the troops. They raised the money via looting of the losers, to include the 'profits' from selling the losers into slavery. Tangential note - Revolutionary France invaded and occupied the Swiss cantons....for the banks!
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/03/2019 7:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Time for declassification of documents. Time for sunlight. Call it assisted-suicide; the opposite of the DS tactic of Arkanside.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 8:27 Comments || Top||

#7  Truth will set us free.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/03/2019 8:29 Comments || Top||

#8  When I was a kid and I watched the Boomer class fight each other on the college campuses and it became clear that our way of life would be at risk when they came to power in DC. I am technically a Boomer, born early 1960. But it was clear when the generation that was so incredibly divided at 20, by 60 the divide would be institutionalized, and now it is. It does not matter who wins in this, it does not matter who loses. What will happen here is more and more bullshit hate from a generation that hates itself will destroy us from within. The left will live off the hate until Pelosi goes to rehab, and McConnel will deride the left until he has a stroke. These boomers were diametrically opposed since high school, and will be until death. What we the rational have to do is try to preserve the constitution until this threat to our existence has passed. Socialism/communist ideal have soaked into our schools poisoning our next generations, all the while the boomers point at each other and bicker over hurt feelings and colors of the rainbow. The boomers are no more or less corrupt than the generations before, they are human after all, and they will not be any more or less corrupt that the Gen X, Y, Z or what ever they call them selves that follow. What the boomers have lost- or never had, was basic respect for their fellow American. They/we are willing to believe the lies and believe the ends do justify the means. The Clintons are a prime example. Our constitution is in crisis, and my sad best guess is it will fail, not from an enemy attack, buy from a generation of self absorbed fools that are willing to toss the greatest thing on the planet to prove their side is right.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 10/03/2019 13:09 Comments || Top||

#9  A vote for impeachment to be recommended by the House of Representatives requires plausible charges which in the past were subject to debate. What seems to be lacking here are plausible charges that can be written down and that can stand up against scrutiny. What are those charges supposed to be?
Trump tweets?
Trump uses secure systems for his communications with other heads of state?
Trump finds Biden's brag that he forced firing of a Ukrainian chief prosecutor horrible?
Trump saying he would like to find out what really happened with that to the Head of State of Ukraine?
Trump getting two scoops of ice cream at certain meals?
Where is the meat?
Posted by: Daniel || 10/03/2019 13:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Daniel, I think "Orange man bad" will be the primary impeachment charge.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/03/2019 13:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Nah, it's just an "inquiry" to play out in front of the media until it burns itself out - like the Mueller "inquiry".
Posted by: Bobby || 10/03/2019 14:48 Comments || Top||

#12  The "inquiry for the media" (a.k.a. Circus) has one drawback: Trump is a counter-puncher and will not hunker down and be endlessly pummeled like the milquetoast "gentlemanly loser" Republicans the GOPe prefers.
Posted by: magpie || 10/03/2019 16:28 Comments || Top||

#13  When will the starting shots be fired?

I don't say the first shot cause Steve Scalise gets that "honor".
Posted by: AlanC || 10/03/2019 17:54 Comments || Top||

#14  The dems know they can't win with any of their clowns in an honest election. I think it doesn't matter to them if they have a credible charge for impeachment. They just want to continue making noise using the media to create a huge distraction and to try to chip away at all the success Trump has had. There are too many people than can be taken in by this nonsense. On the other hand people who may have been on the fence about Trump are disgusted with this dem $hit show. I don't know what the answer is other than Trump keeping up the good fight and those of us who are with him doing whatever is in our own small milieu to do to support him.
Posted by: warthogswife || 10/03/2019 18:59 Comments || Top||

#15  During the French " Reign of Terror " Robespierre was the most vicious leader/killer. As it came around for his turn to get the chop, he didn't get the then current practice of having a bag placed over his head and being placed face down on the block. He was placed face up so he could see the blade dropping.
Posted by: Clyde Dribble8052 || 10/03/2019 21:44 Comments || Top||

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