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2019-10-03 China-Japan-Koreas
How China 'Woke' America
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2019-10-03 01:27|| || Front Page|| [10 views ]  Top

#1 The only possible explanation - the one that future historians will almost certainly agree upon - for such an unbelievably self-destructive policy as prostrating ourselves before China and enabling them to go from near-subsistence to our only global rival is corruption.

Kissinger has made a killing in China, as have hundreds of lobbyists.

Investment banks have made a killing advising Chinese firms.

Hedge funds have scarfed up a total of trillions in
Chinese assets under management, pocketing many billions in management fees.

CEOs have shaved costs and increased their profits by outsourcing most of our manufacturing supply chain
to China.

Where does our shitty political class head when they're done with Washington?

To lobbying/PR and consulting firms such as Kissinger's.

To Goldman and other Wall Street trading houses.

To the big banks, the hedge funds and private equity funds.

To the boards of publicly-traded Fortune 500 companies.

All of them have lined their pockets with golden crumbs from China's table.

None of these bastards is suffering what over 100 million Americans have had to contend with for the last 30+ years: shit wages, zero job security, sideways home equity if they even have any, shitty schools for the kids.

And all of it surrounded by the constant drumbeat of an insane mantra of globalism, global citizens with global virtues creating a new "flat" global order that will reward the supposedly "superior" and more "productive" Chinese and other third worlders instead of supposedly lazy, drug-addled, above all, racist Americans.

Screw these morons. What they have done with their insane China policy is criminal.

It reads like something out of the history books about the follies and madness of the German Foreign Office that led to WWI, or the foolish miscalculations that led to the Peloponnesian War.

And they call Trump mad.

Damn these fools.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-03 01:52||   2019-10-03 01:52|| Front Page Top

#2 Well said Lex. Very well said.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-03 01:55||   2019-10-03 01:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Ditto for open borders and mass illegal immigration from Mexico and Central America.

Madness. Impossible to explain other than with simple corruption.

Does anyone remember when then-VP AL Gore tried to shut down Ross Perot's critique of NAFTA by promising the nation that the trade deal would REDUCE illegal immigration?

How on earth did our political class go from defending American workers - or at least trying to mount a defense of US workers - to this unbelievable stage where literally everyone in DC (except maybe a few oddballs such as Trump, Sanders, and Sherrod Brown) believes that native-born US workers are despicable lowlifes who deserve not only to be made poor but also to be castigated as inferior to supposedly hardworking, upright "God's people" in the form of illiterate peasant indios from abroad?

What the hell happened to this country?

How did we get saddled with such a shitty, stupid, thoroughly corrupt political class?

And No, I don't agree that "we get the political class we deserve." No one in his right mind would vote for these greedy, cynical, incompetent fools.

How did this happen to our nation?
Posted by Lex 2019-10-03 02:02||   2019-10-03 02:02|| Front Page Top

#4 Here's a typical bio of one of the sleek fools who've botched so much of our foreign policy for over two decades and then landed in fields of gold post-Langley.

After helping Tenet botch the Iraq intel, this one landed nicely in a series of exec roles at Lehman (!) and Kissinger Associates, and is now raking in the $$$$ while sitting on the boards of Morgan Stanley, GM, EMC and other globalist entities that have helped China become a deadly global rival to us.
Posted by Lex 2019-10-03 02:27||   2019-10-03 02:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Ref #4: With the victory of Barack Obama in the November 2008 presidential election, Miscik returned to Washington for a short stint, working on the intelligence transition.[8][9] In January, 2009, she was named Vice-Chairman of Kissinger Associates, Inc.[10]

She never left the klingon circuit. Very few of them do. They embed themselves and follow the money.
Posted by Besoeker 2019-10-03 02:39||   2019-10-03 02:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Yet sometime in 2019, almost all of America finally got "woke" on China.

As a smelly, deplorable Wal-Mart shopper, one started noticing Chinese crap @WM long before 2019. It just wasn't until Trump came along that we thought we could do anything.
Posted by JohnQC 2019-10-03 08:46||   2019-10-03 08:46|| Front Page Top

#7 I think folks believed to strongly in the J curve, that once wealthy enough nations become democracies. There examples of this happening are numerous.

So we let China get away with murder to avoid war, and with the hope we would win in the end with a massive democratic Chinese market ready for American goods.

They assumed the J-curve was some kind of law when the fact is all of the examples were in the Western Sphere already and Communist China isn't. then we continued the same game plan long after it was a failure because we had no better plan and because of massive inertia of corrupt-o-crats making money off the whole thing..
Posted by ruprecht 2019-10-03 10:18||   2019-10-03 10:18|| Front Page Top

#8 Ruprecht, great analysis. Also, it was just the neocon con that the Chinese will stop being Chinese if they are rich. China has always been hegemonic, with or without money. Why did they call themselves the Middle Kingdom?
Posted by SR-71 2019-10-03 22:23||   2019-10-03 22:23|| Front Page Top

#9 When Loral gave the Chinese MIRV technology in 1998 I realized we were being screwed by our own
Posted by TzSenator 2019-10-03 22:48||   2019-10-03 22:48|| Front Page Top

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