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Bloomberg: Libya’s PM Al-Sarraj will Resign
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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Domino's pizza delivery man is 'shot dead by girl, 17, after he kills her boyfriend in self-defense with his right-to-carry gun when they lured him to empty house with fake order in botched robbery attempt'
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Jaelynn Billups, 17, allegedly shot Joshua Ungersma, 37, in Layafette, Indiana

  • She and her boyfriend Alberto Vanmeter, 19, called for a pizza delivery to an abandoned home, court documents said

  • Mr Ungersma is believed to have shot Vanmeter dead in self-defense before asking a neighbor to call the police

  • Billups is then alleged to have shot Ungersma at point blank range, killing him

  • When cops arrived and ordered Billups to show her hands, they say she threw a 9mm handgun onto the sidewalk

  • Police said the delivery driver was found with 'a .38 S&W revolver in his pocket with the rounds fired'. He had a permit to carry the weapon

  • Billups was charged in Tippecanoe Superior Court with murdering Mr Ungersma and causing the killing of Vanmeter, as well as armed robbery charges
Posted by: Punky Poodle9392 || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6471 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The female of the species
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/16/2020 6:01 Comments || Top||

Three brothers accused of raping 10-year-old girl in Louisiana
[NYPOST] Three brothers are charged with raping a 10-year-old Louisiana girl who locked herself in a bedroom when they offered her money for sex, police said.

Two of the suspects, identified as Raul Paz-Perez and Wilmer Paz-Perez, both 35, were arrested Saturday on a charge of first-degree rape involving a juvenile under the age of 13, Kenner police said.

A third brother, 31-year-old Elder Paz-Perez, is still being sought as of early Tuesday on the same charge, Lt. Michael Cunningham told The Post.

"We don’t know where he is," Cunningham said. "He may be out of state."

Elder Paz-Perez is the boyfriend of the 10-year-old girl’s mother. He and his brothers had been living with the girl and her family, including her 15-year-old sister and two stepsiblings, at the time of the alleged attack, Cunningham said.

The three brothers were alone with the 10-year-old girl at a home in Kenner on Wednesday when they made sexual advances toward her, offering her money for sex acts, Cunningham said.

The maiden of tender years locked herself in a bedroom, but one of the brothers managed to bust inside, Cunningham said.

"After defeating the lock, the three entered the room, undressed the victim, held her down and sexually assaulted her," Kenner police said in a statement.

Days later, the girl told a relative, who then reported the alleged attack to authorities on Saturday. Raul and Wilmer Paz-Perez were arrested later that day, police said.

Detectives are also looking into whether Elder Paz-Perez sexually assaulted the 15-year-old sister of the 10-year-old girl after she "made a disclosure" to Sherlocks about an incident a few years earlier, Cunningham said.

Two stepsiblings of the 10-year-old girl are also being interviewed by detectives to see if they were victimized as well, Cunningham said.

Raul and Wilmer Paz-Perez were being held without bail Tuesday at the Jefferson Gay Pareeh Correctional Center, online records show.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement detainers have also been placed on Raul and Wilmer Paz-Perez, who are originally from Honduras and were in the US illegally. The immigration status for Elder Paz-Perez was unclear early Tuesday, Cunningham said.
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Louisiana may not have been the best place to do that. I remember what Gary Plauche did to Jeff Doucet at the Baton Rouge airport, and the jury let him off with time-served.
Posted by: Glenmore || 09/16/2020 1:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Try Newsom's California. Maybe the Guv and the Assembly can be persuaded to create a rider that allows illegals to rape the children of their girlfriends or sisters... think of it as a two-fer for the Party of Vurtue
Posted by: Chaling Bucket1283 || 09/16/2020 9:40 Comments || Top||

#3  The party of Ed Buck
Posted by: Frank G || 09/16/2020 10:22 Comments || Top||

#4  It's in Kenner, which is Greater New Orleans area. Which has changed a lot to resemble New Orleans Proper over the last twenty years.

It's Louisiana's Florida, basically.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 09/16/2020 11:06 Comments || Top||

#5  "We don’t know where he is," Cunningham said. "He may be out of state."

Or he may be in a swamp somewhere, his soggy corpse being gnawed by crawfish and gators.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/16/2020 11:21 Comments || Top||

#6  They used to have a special unit at Angola State Penitentiary called the Red Hat House, just for guys like this...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/16/2020 13:43 Comments || Top||

#7  This should carry the death penalty, the slow kind. The kind that takes weeks on end.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/16/2020 18:24 Comments || Top||

-Short Attention Span Theater-
Rick Beato On YouTube: I Just Listened To The Top 10 On Spotify...WTF?
[YouTube: Rick Beato] Spoiler alert -- today's pop music sucks, but has some high production values.

Beato is being very nice with his commentary.

The track by The Weeknd is the tallest midget.

Posted by: charger || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6470 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Check out some of Rick Beato's other stuff on YouTube, like this one.
Posted by: Raj || 09/16/2020 9:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Does that Wakandan in the photo even know what a chord is?
Posted by: Augustus Teavee || 09/16/2020 10:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Does that Wakandan in the photo even know what a chord is?

A chord is a kind of a noose, right?

Beato is an interesting guy if you are in to contemporary music and how it gets made.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/16/2020 11:35 Comments || Top||

#4  "this one actually has some guitar in it" - LOL
Posted by: Maggie Darling of the Leprechauns2771 || 09/16/2020 11:41 Comments || Top||

-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Michael Jarrod Bakkela, 41, was charged with arson in connection to a raging wildfire that has destroyed hundreds of homes in southern Oregon
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6484 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Surely they will investigate any ties to BLMAntifa.
Posted by: gorb || 09/16/2020 0:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Oregon Bystander Films Alleged Arsonists
Posted by: Punky Poodle9392 || 09/16/2020 2:42 Comments || Top||

Posted by: Punky Poodle9392 || 09/16/2020 2:56 Comments || Top||

#4  That face, those eyes are the rationale behind Elizabethan 5 hour public executions.
Posted by: Cesare || 09/16/2020 7:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Methed-up firebug or Antifa/BLM anarchists and communists?
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/16/2020 8:14 Comments || Top||

#6  ^ 'and'
Posted by: Galactic Coordinator McCoy6557 || 09/16/2020 11:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Did he leave a manifesto?
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2020 11:20 Comments || Top||

#8  death sentance
Posted by: 746 || 09/16/2020 13:55 Comments || Top||

Data base of 100+ HCQ studies
[C19Study] at the source link

this is a crowd produced site

and lots of meta data studies also

what is depressing to me is that many of the studies I looked at had fairly obvious design flaws that could have been avoided

I would have supposed that there was enough money to do more rigorous studies but, well, either money isn't the problem or I'm just wrong.
Posted by: lord garth || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Money is almost never the problem.
Posted by: Thorong Grundy1520 || 09/16/2020 6:51 Comments || Top||

#2  It was reported this a.m. that "India surpasses 5 million coronavirus cases, 82,066 deaths." ~ about a 1.6% case death rate. If one could factor in the asymptomatic cases into this which Dr. Fauci says is around 40%-45%, case death rate would be even lower.

LSU coach Ed Orgeron says: 'Most' of team has already contracted coronavirus and that hopefully they will not contract it again. The panic pandemic continues.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/16/2020 8:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Nice map, shows mostly third-world 'widespread use'. Limited use in the Americas and other places and follow the US media.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/16/2020 11:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Not much money for Big Pharma with HCQ.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/16/2020 12:21 Comments || Top||

#5  Breaking: B1G fall football season is back on.
Good news.
Posted by: Squinty Snosh6456 || 09/16/2020 12:26 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah. You can watch them kneel for the national anthem if the come out of the locker room in time. Then stand at attention for the BLM flag.
Posted by: gorb || 09/16/2020 15:13 Comments || Top||

Badda lynching: 5 accused granted bail
[Dhaka Tribune] The High Court has granted bail to five individuals accused in the lynching of a woman in Badda, Dhaka last year.

The bench of Justice Jahangir Hossain Selim and Justice Md Badruzzaman granted the bail to one of the accused, Mohammad Raju, on Monday.

The other four accused — Riya Begum Moyna, Bachchu Mia, Mohammad Shahin and Murad Mia — were granted bail by the bench of Justice Obaidul Hasan and Justice Jahangir Hossain Selim in the last few weeks.

MMG Sarwar, state counsel in the case, confirmed the matter to Dhaka Tribune on Tuesday, saying that they had taken steps to file an appeal against all of the bail orders.

On July 20, 2019, Taslima Begum Renu, 40, a single mother of two, was beaten to death by a mob on unfounded suspicions of being a kidnapper, in front of North Badda Government Primary School.

Later, Syed Nasir Uddin Titu, the victim’s nephew, filed a murder case against 400 to 500 unidentified persons with Badda cop shoppe.

On September 10 this year, police submitted a charge sheet before A Dhaka against 15 people accused in this case.

Of them 14 are in jail, while one is one the run.

There was a sudden spike in mob lynching across Bangladesh in 2019, after a rumour spread that the ongoing Padma Bridge project needed human heads as tribute, causing panic nationwide.

According to media reports, there were 26 incidents of mob beatings across the country, in which nine people were killed and 44 people injured.

Police detained 103 individuals connected with those mob beatings, and 31 cases were filed.

Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6472 views] Top|| File under:

Tortured by husband, woman dies after 15-day fight for life
[Dhaka Tribune] A young housewife who was allegedly tortured by husband and in-laws for dowry died at a hospital in the capital on Tuesday after fighting for life for 15 days.The dear departed was identified as Tasnim Mim, wife of Ezaz Ahmed Alam of Taragunia area in Daulatpur upazila.

Mim died while undergoing treatment at the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) of Dhaka Medical College and Hospital (DMCH).

Victim's father Mohibul Alam said Mim was severely injured after her husband and his family brutally tortured her for giving him a cycle of violence as dowry.

She was admitted to Kushtia General Hospital on September 1 and was shifted to DMCH the next day as her condition worsened, he said.

"Firstly, the officer-in-charge of Daulatpur cop shoppe rejected to record the complaint but later recorded the complaint after being instructed by top police officials", Alam said.

Speaking on the issue, Daulatpur cop shoppe Officer-in-Charge (OC) Jahurul Islam said he joined the office on Monday and asked the victim's family to lodge a fresh complaint.

Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Some marriages last longer than 15 days.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/16/2020 6:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Father: Son, you'll remember tonight as the happiest time of your life.
Son: But the wedding isn't until tomorrow.
Father: I know.
Posted by: jpal || 09/16/2020 10:16 Comments || Top||

U.S. pushes arms sales surge to 'Fortress Taiwan,' needling China
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States plans to sell as many as seven major weapons systems, including mines, cruise missiles and drones to Taiwan, four people familiar with the discussions said, as the Trump administration ramps up pressure on China.

Pursuing seven sales at once is a rare departure from years of precedent in which U.S. military sales to the island were spaced out and carefully calibrated to minimize tensions with Beijing.

But the Trump administration has become more aggressive with China in 2020 and the sales would land as relations between Beijing and Washington are at their lowest point in decades over accusations of spying, a lingering trade war and disputes about the spread of the novel coronavirus.

At the same time Taiwan's desire to buy weapons increased after President Tsai Ing-wen was re-elected here in January and has made strengthening Taiwan's defenses a top priority.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2020 07:36 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6466 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  Attention on deck: China, be advised, actions have consequences.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/16/2020 7:42 Comments || Top||

#2  No-one leader wants to be forced into a Chamberlain Moment.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/16/2020 7:58 Comments || Top||

#3  It is a message to China. Stop being dicks. We will arm those you are trying to bully.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/16/2020 9:11 Comments || Top||

Chinese software firm that 'provides intelligence to the government and military' collects data from 50,000 Americans - including prominent public figures and military leaders
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Shenzhen Zhenhua Data Technology has collected online data and social media on more than two million people including 50,000 Americans since 2017

  • The database - called the Overseas Key Information Database or OKIDB - was accessed and analyzed by Australian cybersecurity consultancy Internet 2.0.

  • It was accessed after it was found left unsecured online

  • The trove of data reportedly includes service records of US Navy captains, foreign leader profiles and online activity from overseas US military installations

  • Zhenhua allegedly provides intelligence to Chinese military, government and commercial clients and calls itself a 'patriotic' firm

  • Zhenhua also counts tech firms TRS and Huarong as well as state-owned company Global Tone Communication Technology among its partners

  • There is no evidence data is currently being used by the Chinese government

  • A company representative has denied all ties to the military and government
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2020 08:28 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6474 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  again, time to cut ALL ties to China
Posted by: 746 || 09/16/2020 13:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Not at all sure why it's a problem that China does this, but not a problem that Facebook et al do it. Is it even intellectually conceivable that all this data would be available for targeted advertising and never be used for any other purpose?
Posted by: Iblis || 09/16/2020 14:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Nothing compared to TicTok.
Posted by: gorb || 09/16/2020 15:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Put the Anons on it just to see who the PRC is most interested in.

99% of the time, it will be an obvious name, but every now and then, there may be a surprising nugget.
Posted by: charger || 09/16/2020 18:33 Comments || Top||

ATC approves physical remand of Lahore motorway gang rape suspect
[DAILYTIMES.PK] A sessions court in the bustling provincial capital on Tuesday approved a six-day physical remand of the motorway gang-rape suspect, Shafqat Ali, when he presented today after his arrest a day prior.

Shafqat — who was arrested from Dibalpur and confessed to committing the crime alongside key suspect, Abdi Ali, who is still on the lam — was booked in a case registered on behalf of the gang-rape survivor’s relative, police said.

Police also added that apart from Sections 376 and 392, a terrorism clause was also included in the first information report (FIR) filed at a Lahore cop shoppe.

On Monday, Punjab
1.) Little Orphan Annie's bodyguard
2.) A province of Pakistain ruled by one of the Sharif brothers
3.) A province of India. It is majority (60 percent) Sikh and Hindoo (37 percent), which means it has relatively few Moslem riots....

Chief Minister Usman Buzdar had confirmed the arrest of one of the two suspects in the gang-rape case, stating on Twitter that "his DNA has matched, and he has confessed to the crime".
Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6464 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

Israel again breaks record for daily virus cases with 5,523 diagnoses
[JPost] - The Health Ministry said 5,523 coronavirus diagnoses were reported on Tuesday, breaking yet again the record of new daily cases.

...The ministry reported on Wednesday morning that with 57,165 tests conducted, the contagion rate remains at a disturbing 10%.
positive result = (p - r)*x + r
where 0 < x < 1 fraction of infected in the population, 0 < p < 1 probability of true positive (approx 0.8) & 0 < r < 1 is probability of false positive (approx 0.05).
So, x = 0.07 (approx).

At least 1,153 COVID-19 patients are being treated in hospitals, a record-breaking figure, with 535 remaining in a serious condition and 138 requiring ventilator support.

...Jerusalem over the past seven days reported the highest number of new diagnoses with 3,034 cases, followed by Bnei Brak with 1,549, Ashdod with 886, Petah Tikva with 636 and Modi'in Illit with 622.
Guess what these cities have in common?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/16/2020 02:42 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6477 views] Top|| File under:

#2  Guess that these cities have in common?

Many Israelis?
Posted by: Clem || 09/16/2020 7:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Glib.
Likely heavy transient Palestinian traffic.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/16/2020 7:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Ultra orthodox colonies
Posted by: g(r)omgoru PB || 09/16/2020 8:24 Comments || Top||

#5  Irrelevant. What matters is hospitalizations and excess deaths.
Posted by: Thorong Grundy1520 || 09/16/2020 16:47 Comments || Top||

#6  ^It what matters to you. To us, other things matter more.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/16/2020 17:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually, g(r)rom, silly response of mine aside, I would have guessed it was the ultra-orthodox group.
Posted by: Clem || 09/16/2020 17:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Irrelevant. What matters is hospitalizations and excess deaths.

It what matters to you. To us, other things matter more.

I'm going to have to disagree with both theories.

Yes, lifestyle does make a difference; the more people in close proximity most definitely creates an environment for diseases to spread especially air communicable disease, second venereal disease.

On the difference, the disease itself and its infection, mortality rate is also in judgement.

Cholera, vs. West Nile, vs. chicken pox, vs. polio, etc. makes a difference.

We are seeing a rounding error of not ten, but factor of one hundred, of what was predicted.

Cross reference what you know with what was predicted.

If off by simple factor of 10, then there would be no hiding the bodies. The wails and lamentations would be deafening.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/16/2020 23:22 Comments || Top||

-PC Follies
Chicago Uni English Dpt. Says It Will Only Allow ‘Black Studies' Students
More proof America is a fundamentally racist country.
[SummitNews] The English Department at the University of Chicago has said that it will only enroll students who want to undertake ‘Black studies' this college year, reasoning that it is a move in solidarity with the ‘Black Lives Matter' movement.
So in a time of Covid, the Black students are those they want to die? That’s rayciss!
Campus Reform points to the University's admissions webpage, which contains the disturbing announcement.

"For the 2020-2021 graduate admissions cycle, the University of Chicago English Department is accepting only applicants interested in working in and with Black Studies," the post reads.

The justification for the decision is, according to the University "that Black Lives Matter, and that the lives of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Tony McDade, and Rayshard Brooks matter, as do thousands of others named and unnamed who have been subject to police violence."
Posted by: Punky Poodle9392 || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6471 views] Top|| File under: Antifa/BLM

#1  after you perform Othello for the 50th time where do you go from there
Posted by: lord garth || 09/16/2020 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  So no federal subsidy for these worthless courses?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/16/2020 4:52 Comments || Top||

Vox calls Beethoven's Fifth Symphony 'a symbol of exclusion and elitism'
[WASHINGTONEXAMINER] Has the 19th-century German composer Ludwig van Beethoven become a modern symbol of "exclusion and elitism" for rich, white men?
How do you describe something that's dumber than stupid?
In an article published by Vox on Tuesday that quoted New York Philharmonic clarinetist Anthony McGill, writers Nate Sloan and Charlie Harding argued that the work has been propped up by white, wealthy men, whose embrace of the musical composition stood as a symbol of "their superiority and importance."
It couldn't possibly be that it's just a great piece of music...
"For others — women, LGBTQ+ people, people of color — Beethoven’s symphony is predominantly a reminder of classical music’s history of exclusion and elitism," Sloan and Harding wrote.
Last time I went to the symphony, there were both men and women there. I didn't ask anyone's sexual orientation, figuring it was none of my business. There were Asians present in the audience, and even a few blacks. I guess they weren't colorful enough.
The writers suggested that because Beethoven was white and most other classical musicians are white, classical music has become a form of "exclusion, elitism, and gatekeeping" for black and brown people.
As far as I know, anyone is free to study for years and write music. Some don't even have to study that long or hard -- Mozart was a child prodigy. Beethoven and most other classical musicians were white because they were Germans, Italians, French, Russians, even a few Norwegians and Brits, that sort of pallorous people. Africans of the time were pounding on drums and singing. North Africans were composing their own kind of music, as were the Indians, Chinese and Japanese. Somehow each of them has come to enjoy Beethoven and his peers, which Vox writers haven't.
"As you perpetuate the idea that the giants of the music all look the same, it conveys to the other that there’s not a stake in that music for them," classical music critic James Bennett II told Vox.
No one's perpetuating such an idea. The skin color is coincidental to the fact that orchestral music (and opera and ballet) are works of art that have expressed the culture in which they grew, and iin many cases transcended it..
McGill struck a more measured tone, suggesting that an overemphasis on Beethoven's work keeps new musicians and ideas from being fully appreciated in real time.
I've seen similar opinions before. Anyone's free to compose. I think most contemporary composition goes into movie themes. I was thinking of Prokof'ev's Aleksandr Nevsky music the other night and ended up watching the movie. The fact that most of what's written today doesn't rise to the level of Beethoven just means that Beethoven was a genius. So were Mozart, Haydn, Schumann, Dvorak, Moussorgsky, and a bunch of others.
McGill said, "If you pretend like there’s no other music out there, that Beethoven is the greatest music that ever will matter," then new listeners will not feel welcome in the genre.
I think Beethoven was a genius, who wrote more than just Symphony No 5. Symphony No 3's also a work of genius, and so was No 6. The fact that he wrote in the context of German culture contributed to his music, just as Dvorak and Smetana wrote in the context of theirs, and Tschaikovsky wrote in his.
Vox is not the only left-leaning outlet pushing to examine the racial makeup of classical music composers. In July, the New York Times

...which still proudly displays Walter Duranty's Pulitzer prize...

published a lengthy article that accused the world of classical music of failing to address racism.
The world of classical music can't really go back and change the racial background of the world's greatest composers. I'd also add that for every piece of great music played there were probably two or three that were played once and never exhumed again. For every one of those, there were probably a couple dozen that never even got played.
"With their major institutions founded on white European models and obstinately focused on the distant past, classical music and opera have been even slower than American society at large to confront racial inequity," read the New York Times's article.
Could be that's because you can't hand out genius. But Red Guards can't understand that.

Posted by: Fred || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6481 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yet another noble pursuit befouled by racist BLM hissyfits.

Everything is political. Every great western achievement is just Evil Whitey keeping down the noble Black Man. Even Beethoven's Fifth.

Even the New York Phil, incurable and wickedly ray is - even when it rewards merit and promotes a black man to be principal clarinetist...

Posted by: Ebboque Bumble9036 || 09/16/2020 1:30 Comments || Top||

#2  What do they call the quadratic equation?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/16/2020 2:34 Comments || Top||

#3  ^ genocide
Posted by: Solomon Sforza1780 || 09/16/2020 2:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Has the 19th-century German composer Ludwig van Beethoven become a modern symbol of "exclusion and elitism" for rich, white men?

No, it just excludes low-lifes.
Posted by: gorb || 09/16/2020 4:40 Comments || Top||

#5  Leftist politics is an Ode to Hate.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/16/2020 4:54 Comments || Top||

#6  Ain't that the truth BP.

How did they miss hating on the 9th symphony?

That's IMHO the greatest symphony of all time.

This is disgusting and vile as so much of anything having to do with BLM is.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/16/2020 8:38 Comments || Top||

#7  I call Vox a racist, sexist and bigoted organization.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/16/2020 8:45 Comments || Top||

#8  From his personal website:

Clarinetist Anthony McGill is one of classical music’s most recognizable and brilliantly multifaceted figures. He serves as the principal clarinet of the New York Philharmonic — that orchestra’s first African-American principal player. player — and maintains a dynamic international solo and chamber music career. ...McGill also serves as an ardent advocate for helping music education reach underserved communities and for addressing issues of diversity, equity, and inclusion in classical music.

One sees immediately that this gentleman of colour, as they say nowadays, is being kept down by The Man.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/16/2020 9:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Funny that classical music has been saved & is still being preserved through the tireless efforts of millions of Asians.

All while the Wakandans, Blammers and white self-flagellists promote and reward their hip hop culture of shit. Keep these idiots away from Beethoven and Bach. Let them watch Cardi B
Posted by: Chaling Bucket1283 || 09/16/2020 9:33 Comments || Top||

#10  Pretty soon they'll achieve the leftist singularity and finally run out of things to bitch, whine and moan about.
Posted by: Raj || 09/16/2020 10:02 Comments || Top||

#11  In the 1950s, the average Western citizen started to enjoy -- and embrace -- the highest of Western culture. In reaction, the Soviet's agents started a campaign against them, to replace it with ugliness and, frankly, garbage.

This is the useful idiots continuing their idiocy. The underlying ideology is the same -- the crap they're pushing has just gotten uglier. See the story about the Top 10; that's what they prefer over Beethoven's Fifth.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/16/2020 10:30 Comments || Top||

#12  ^ I do occasionally wonder who really won the Cold War. Why nuke New York if you can get New Yorkers to destroy it for you?

Posted by: Matt || 09/16/2020 10:52 Comments || Top||

#13  I'm sure growing up Tony got ribbed a lot (all good natured of course) for putting that black stick in his mouf...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/16/2020 13:22 Comments || Top||

#14  So we're supposed to listen to P Diddy?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/16/2020 13:36 Comments || Top||

#15  I once was accused of racism (in 1990es) for saying that my favorite jazz musician is Stéphane Grappelli.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/16/2020 15:15 Comments || Top||

#16  I have a rendition of Jay-Z's 'Rap Game Crack Game' I play on my femto violin.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/16/2020 15:54 Comments || Top||

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 09/16/2020 17:37 Comments || Top||

#18  It's only exclusionary and elitist because hip hop hasn't figured out how to steal sample it yet.
Posted by: Punky Poodle9392 || 09/16/2020 20:17 Comments || Top||

Breonna Taylor's Family Wins Death Lotto
[Yahoo News] Lawyers for Taylor’s family applauded the settlement, with civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump saying he believes it’s the largest amount ever paid out for a Black woman in a police-involved wrongful death case. But attorneys also said more must be done to achieve justice for Taylor, specifically criminal charges for at least the three officers who were involved in the shooting. Crump said second-degree manslaughter charges, at minimum, should be filed.

"We want full justice," he said. "Not partial justice."
"We want money AND blood!"
Posted by: charger || 09/16/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [6476 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When will people ask for charges against the pols and bureaucrats that set all this stuff up?

I'm sure the cops didn't decide on their own to have a swat meet at the wrong address.
Posted by: AlanC || 09/16/2020 17:32 Comments || Top||

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