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2021-06-22 Science & Technology
mRNA vaccines appear to be damaging red blood cells
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Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-22 06:13|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [377 views ]  Top

#1 Spain and Russia are reportedly advising citizens to avoid air travel if they have been vaccinated for COVID-19.

The recovery in air flight bookings has stalled — and business travel is to blame
Posted by Skidmark 2021-06-22 06:54||   2021-06-22 06:54|| Front Page Top

#2 vaccinated hurt the unvaxed

If true (big if given the source), free riders are vermin.
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2021-06-22 06:59||   2021-06-22 06:59|| Front Page Top

#3 Even people who have autoimmune disorders, or who have had the disease and recovered?

We still have to accept the vaccine from the people who _lied to us_ about prophylactic treatments for the disease?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 07:17||   2021-06-22 07:17|| Front Page Top

#4 ^Don't want to eat spinach?
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2021-06-22 07:20||   2021-06-22 07:20|| Front Page Top

#5 /\ Have a sudden craving for bananas ?
Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-22 07:26||   2021-06-22 07:26|| Front Page Top

#6 You can look at Hatfill's letter to America (linked here, look at Daszak's video again, and ask yourself, if the authorities like Fauci and Daszak are lying about the origin of the virus and lying about treatments, but we should trust them to be telling the truth about the vaccines?
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 07:31||   2021-06-22 07:31|| Front Page Top

#7 /\ Thank you Snowy for re-posting the Hatfill letter. Nothing can say 'police state' or FBI rush to judgment better than what this fellow experienced some 20 years ago.

Steven Jay Hatfill is an American physician, pathologist and biological weapons expert. He became the subject of extensive media coverage beginning in mid-2002, when he was a suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks. Wikipedia
Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-22 07:39||   2021-06-22 07:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Well I just echoed the link that tw put up in another post today. (At least I think she's the one who does the massive cross-reference links at the end of posts).
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 07:45||   2021-06-22 07:45|| Front Page Top

#9 In USA everything is bound with one's ideological identity? You can't be a true conservative if you look at Brazil - where they gobbled HCQ like candy?
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2021-06-22 08:06||   2021-06-22 08:06|| Front Page Top

#10 Here's two more links that I'd like you to read carefully.

* WHO Removes Remdesivir From List of COVID-19 Medicines (original link ... free republic thread.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 08:57||   2021-06-22 08:57|| Front Page Top

#11 
(Continued due to editor glitch)

* '90% COVID patients who were given fake Remdesivir survived': India's Gujarat Police busted the inter-state racket' (original link, freep thread.

I want you to consider that the people who made this virus, who aren't all in China, (even though China is currently rich and powerful) didn't make it and release it so they could stop there and tell the truth about how to treat it.

It would take very little to dump "fake" hcq into the Brazilian market, especially if they don't have local manufacturers. And if they're doing that with remdesivir, they're probably doing it with hcq and ivermectin as well.

Then look at Israel's 689 deaths per million from the disease and compare it to Vietnam's ~ 20 deaths per million. That's pretty much raw data there, they're using _something_.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 08:58||   2021-06-22 08:58|| Front Page Top

#12 (And just checking: Are you saying I should accept the advice from Daszak and Fauci who helped fund the fucking virus because that's a minor political dispute and I should be open minded?)
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 08:59||   2021-06-22 08:59|| Front Page Top

#13 And if you missed it:

Google and USAID were funding the Wuhan Lab for over a decade. And we're stuck in what's essentially google's internet to find information about the disease and how to treat it. And they helped make the virus.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 09:12||   2021-06-22 09:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Ref #13: I believe most everyone here is aware of USAID and their sources of funding and Deep State affiliations. Perhaps the DIA Chinese defector could shed some additional light on the subject.

Off to the Atlanta wet mkts. Got to pick some monkey brains for dinner.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-22 09:30||   2021-06-22 09:30|| Front Page Top

#15 Too bad there are no, and never will be any, long term safety studies of these vaccines.
Posted by Angstrom 2021-06-22 09:37||   2021-06-22 09:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Nuremberg 2.0?
Posted by Joluling Gleque7445 2021-06-22 09:55||   2021-06-22 09:55|| Front Page Top

#17 Ref #15: Too bad there are no, and never will be any, long term safety studies of these vaccines.

But there are. If you took the jab, you are an active participant of the safety test population.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-06-22 10:19||   2021-06-22 10:19|| Front Page Top

#18 If you haven't, you are a passive participant, the control group.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 11:32||   2021-06-22 11:32|| Front Page Top

#19 #12 Should look at the rest of the world: patriotism =/= parochialism.

p.s. 300 million of your countrymen did.
Posted by g(r)omgoru PB 2021-06-22 12:33||   2021-06-22 12:33|| Front Page Top

#20 Peer pressure because the regular American's decision making process?

I don't think that dog is going to hunt.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 17:57||   2021-06-22 17:57|| Front Page Top

#21 Why, maven of marvels mathematical,
Wax suddenly so autocratical?
Why namecall and curse
At us dull vax-averse?
Wake me up when you're back from sabbatical!

Profoundly sympathetic to both points if view, me, but if wary skepticism is good enough for God, it's good enough for (these) vaccines. For now. God help us. ;-)

Posted by Menhadden Shomomp7752 2021-06-22 19:26||   2021-06-22 19:26|| Front Page Top

#22 In the meantime, I suspect whatever vaccines are single dose are probably safer than the multiple-dose versions. I suspect, but can't prove, that the multiple-dose thing is a statistical hack to ensure everyone's gotten a working dose even though storage and transport of the vaccines are problamatic.

And that the multiple dose thing is what's causing the problem with people with diagnosed or undiagnosed autoimmune issues.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 19:38||   2021-06-22 19:38|| Front Page Top

#23 #21 Because I'm tired of the "scientific" arguments of covid-sceptics.

#22 Thing, we know empirically that second dose improves performance (duration of immune memory, magnitude of secondary response, etc...). And it's used not just in covid - cf. Why do we need multiple doses of a vaccine?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-06-22 20:17||   2021-06-22 20:17|| Front Page Top

#24 How does vaccinated hurt the unvaccs'd, if in the unvaccs'd is a choice?
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 21:30||   2021-06-22 21:30|| Front Page Top

#25 The unvacc'd hurting the vaccc'd seems to fit an argument made, but that does not fit either, as a vacc'd should be immune.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 21:32||   2021-06-22 21:32|| Front Page Top

#26 ^^^^
In short, "virus shedding", the lengthy video gives this as the answer you just asked....

People who got "vaxxed" infected non-vaxxed with covid
Posted by Chesney B. Hayes2826 2021-06-22 21:35||   2021-06-22 21:35|| Front Page Top

#27 and "or else!"

Is something I grew out of in 12 years old.

"Science" blasted credentials about 12 months ago.

I have pointed out the lack of credibility quite a few times before.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 21:40||   2021-06-22 21:40|| Front Page Top

#28 grom: I think the double-dose thing in this case was to compensate for the unreliability of the two mRNA vaccines from their storage or transport issues. And that it's causing problems with people _with immune issues_ with two effective doses because *that's what the original virus was designed to do.*
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-06-22 21:49||   2021-06-22 21:49|| Front Page Top

#29 Binary choices piss me off.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 21:52||   2021-06-22 21:52|| Front Page Top

#30 *I don't trust the numbers, but that is a different topic
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 21:58||   2021-06-22 21:58|| Front Page Top

#31 ^^^

Why don't you all get with it,

The Chinese Bioweapon was made
to kill and incapacitate,
short, middle or long term.

1 week, one month one year - three years.

Lab animals, which got the "spike based vaxx" all died within 3-4 years. Do some research, it is out there...I wrote about this a year ago, and this venue pushed me off...well, now you know...

Why do you think the powers that be are trying to take the information off the net... ?

You find out ... what are you going to do ?

Good Luck --- enjoy your life until THE END.
Posted by Bugs Snuter9434 2021-06-22 22:10||   2021-06-22 22:10|| Front Page Top

#32 Lab animals, which got the "spike based vaxx" all died within 3-4 years. Do some research

How long have the COVID vaccines been in existence?
Posted by Lemuel Black3983 2021-06-22 22:28||   2021-06-22 22:28|| Front Page Top

#33 Nah, that's bullshit too.
Posted by swksvolFF 2021-06-22 22:59||   2021-06-22 22:59|| Front Page Top

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22:25 Knuckles Slererong5344
22:19 Lemuel Black3983
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