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2011-07-03 Home Front: WoT

This Fourth of July, why I love America, like most Muslim Americans

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Posted by 2011-07-03 00:41|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 I was an Ahmadi ~~Non~~ Muslim

Truth in editing.

Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-07-03 01:24|| 2011-07-03 01:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Orthodox Moslems believe that the Ahmadi Moslems dispute that Mohammed was the last of the Prophets since the Ahmadi claim that their founder in 1889 claimed to be the real Messiah of the "end times" and that Jesus died in Kashmir after waking up from his non death on the Cross and traveling to Kashmir where he died of old age and is buried there under the name Yusuf Asaf.

Ahmadi are about as Moslem as Mormons are Christians.

Ahmadis believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was divinely commissioned as a true reflection of Muhammad's prophethood to establish the unity of God, remind mankind of their duties towards God and God's creation, to emphasize both aspects of religion which Ahmadis believe is the need of the present age. As such Ahmadis hold that Ghulam Ahmad was the representative and spiritual readvent of all previous prophets. From the Ahmadiyya perspective, the Christians have erred with regards to the rights of God in that they have attributed divine status to a mortal human, and it is on this account that in Islamic eschatology the promised reformer has been named the Mahdi (the "Guided One"a title meaning one who is naturally guided and is an heir to all truths and in whom the attribute of "guide" of the Almighty is fully represented). Ahmadis also hold that the Muslims have erred with regard to the rights of creation for they, unjustly raising the sword and calling it Jihad, have misunderstood the concept and purpose of jihad in Islam; it is on this account that he has been called the Isa Messih ("Jesus the Messiah")a term which relates to his function in re-establishing the rights of people by reforming their distorted, violent notion of "Jihad" just as Jesus Christ came principally to reform the hearts and attitudes of the Jewish nation.

Posted by de Medici 2011-07-03 08:25|| 2011-07-03 08:25|| Front Page Top

#3 all [Muslim Americans] would agree on one thing: that the United States provides them with more freedom, more security, more opportunity, and more peace than the country from which they emigrated.

So then why do some Muslim Americans hate us with such vehemence that they want to kill us?

Posted by JohnQC 2011-07-03 09:30|| 2011-07-03 09:30|| Front Page Top

#4 So then why do some Muslim Americans hate us with such vehemence that they want to kill us?

Most Muslims are not Ahmaddis, JohnQC. Why do some Progressives hate us, too?

Posted by trailing wife 2011-07-03 10:51|| 2011-07-03 10:51|| Front Page Top

#5 In all fairness, I think the left can be graded, with their most reasonable members being ignorant or gullible.

Then there are the liberals, who are idealistically stupid: "But I *want* there to be a 1,000/mpg car!"

Next on the scale are the mendacious socialists, who want socialism but have to lie about every aspect and element of achieving it and what it is. They refuse every bit of evidence to the contrary, and have no pattern recognition of its countless failures.

Then there are the haters, who want political power to get even with those they hate, including brutalizing them and killing them.

Only then do you reach the final conglomeration of those that truly want to destroy America, create chaos, destruction and infinite bloodshed, dictatorship of the proletariat, Marat sort of stuff.

Posted by Anonymoose 2011-07-03 13:11|| 2011-07-03 13:11|| Front Page Top

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