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2009-02-19 Fifth Column

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Posted by 3dc 2009-02-19 10:49|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Well, if you can get the Russians and the Chinese to agree, and stop Iran's nuclear program and the other programs in the Middle East that are popping up because of it, and can keep other nations from wanting nukes, then it should work!

Obama... dangerously naive.

Posted by DarthVader 2009-02-19 11:02|| 2009-02-19 11:02|| Front Page Top

#2 Rogue nation or terrorists threaten nuclear blackmail. Now what are you going to do, Genius? The Big O and his ideologues have a suicide wish.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2009-02-19 11:03|| 2009-02-19 11:03|| Front Page Top

#3 From reading this, it ought to be headlined "Gareth Evans plans big push to end nukes". Which, of course, means absolutely nothing.

Posted by tu3031 2009-02-19 11:06|| 2009-02-19 11:06|| Front Page Top

#4 Ahh, the optimism of ignorance.

Posted by gorb 2009-02-19 11:21|| 2009-02-19 11:21|| Front Page Top

#5 Prisoner's Dilemma, anyone?

Posted by mojo 2009-02-19 11:23|| 2009-02-19 11:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Although the article doesn't mention it, the O administration has been discussing an 80%+ reduction in the US arsenal to avoid the costs of maintenance and modernization of the warheads.

Posted by rwv 2009-02-19 11:25|| 2009-02-19 11:25|| Front Page Top

#7 A modest reduction in our arsenal won't hurt us: many of the weapons are aging and the maintenance cost is high. We'd need new ones down the road but I'm guessing Bambi won't go for that.

So if one can use said modest reduction as a chip to get the Russians and Chinese to limit their own stockpile, fine and dandy, but that is as good as you're going to get.

Iran won't stop its drive to get nukes. Neither will the Norks. You might persuade nations such as Egypt and Brazil to hold off for now. But the game otherwise isn't going to change.

This is all deck-chair arrangement unless Bambi gives away the store.

Posted by Steve White 2009-02-19 11:52|| 2009-02-19 11:52|| Front Page Top

#8 This moron's gonna get us all killed.

Posted by Parabellum 2009-02-19 12:09|| 2009-02-19 12:09|| Front Page Top

#9 Obama... dangerously naive

No, "Fucking Moron is a lot closer.

Posted by Rednek Jim 2009-02-19 12:18|| 2009-02-19 12:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Captain Dipshit strikes again.

Posted by Ho Chi Glusoque7625 2009-02-19 12:20|| 2009-02-19 12:20|| Front Page Top

#11 Obama's good friend and office mate Bill Ayers wanted to kill off 10% of Americans. Looks like the Manchurian President may far exceed that.

Alternatively, why not fold the American nuclear umbrella in 5 years and let those nations decide whether they want to go naked or go nuke, including Mr. Gareth Evans own country?

Posted by ed 2009-02-19 12:31|| 2009-02-19 12:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Nukes, use 'em or lose 'em?

Posted by Glenmore 2009-02-19 12:34|| 2009-02-19 12:34|| Front Page Top

#13 The Russians are in the lose 'em situation. They don't have the money to support their current nuke force. Unfortunately Obambi is gonna ride to Putie's rescue w/o any net benefit for America or the west.

Posted by ed 2009-02-19 12:42|| 2009-02-19 12:42|| Front Page Top

#14 the International Commission on Nuclear Non-proliferation and Disarmament -- an international body established by the Australian and Japanese governments to lead a global debate on cutting nuclear arsenals and to work to ensure the success of the next round of talks on the nuclear non-proliferation treaty in 2010.

met with U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden, national security adviser Gen. James Jones, Deputy Secretary of State James Steinberg and the chairmen of several key congressional committees, including Massachusetts Democrat John Kerry of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

"I got a very, very positive impression

tu3031 nailed it. An international committee, responsible to no one, made up of retired politicians from non-nuclear nations (what our British cousins call a "quango", I believe), met with members of two branches of the U.S. government without direct responsibility for the matter at hand, leaving the quango members with a strong impression of something or other, which the office actually kinda sorta responsible for refused to officially comment on. If nothing else, giving a strong impression of agreement with everyone's favourite issues is what President Obama does best.

I shouldn't worry too much about this. President Obama is going to have to figure out how to safely dispose of his discarded nukes before he can actually do so, or the issue will become seriously toxic for him.

/yes, I did mean to say that. So there.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2009-02-19 12:50|| 2009-02-19 12:50|| Front Page Top

#15 You go Barry! Absolutely impressive. The bloody wonk is an expert on phueching EVERYTHING!

Posted by Besoeker 2009-02-19 13:05|| 2009-02-19 13:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Per trailing wife's comment, I have to wonder if this is all just a bunch of window dressing.

I mean to be fair to The 0ne, window dressing seems to be the only thing he's any good at thus far.

Posted by eltoroverde 2009-02-19 13:18|| 2009-02-19 13:18|| Front Page Top

#17 unless Bambi gives away the store.

It's credible to think that's his intent.

Posted by lotp 2009-02-19 13:32|| 2009-02-19 13:32|| Front Page Top

#18 I think the Russians would welcome nuclear disarmament.

They started putting biological warheads on ICBMs in the 1980s.

Posted by Plastic Snoopy 2009-02-19 13:33|| 2009-02-19 13:33|| Front Page Top

#19 A bunch of peacenik socialist tranzis BS'ing with each other.

Posted by Cynicism Inc 2009-02-19 16:27|| 2009-02-19 16:27|| Front Page Top

#20 Its also good to remember who Gareth Evans is. He was and Australian academic who entered politics in the Labor [read socialist] party and became Attorney General. He got the nickname "Biggles" for sending the Australian airforce over Tasmania when the Tasmanians were building a dam the then newly elected Australian government didn't like. He was always incredibly arrogant but finally got hounded out of Australian politics when it was found that he was rogering the leader of a fringe left wing party in the Senate humorously called the Australian Democrats. He never achieved much as a politician because he thinks he is smarter than everyone else [and certainly is as a legal academic] but has no clue about the real world. He is trying to find a place in history. But he has already got it, just like Bill Clinton.

Posted by Omoter Speaking for Boskone7794 2009-02-19 20:45|| 2009-02-19 20:45|| Front Page Top

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