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2007-11-28 Home Front: Culture Wars

The Death of the Grown-up: A Dangerous Truth (NB : I should know)

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Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-28 07:43|| || Front Page|| [10 views ] Top

#1 Ahhh, should be Opinion; chalk that to my own lack of maturity.

Posted by anonymous5089 2007-11-28 07:56|| 2007-11-28 07:56|| Front Page Top

#2 In some aspects, she is right. Oh I'll admit to still playing video games and D&D, but when there is a chore to do, or work to be done they are put aside and the responsible thing is done. That is the problem with most liberals. They only see the adult responsible things as things needing to be done to satisfy their eternal lust for child. Others, like me see them as a nice break from the adult world, but only that. A break. I enjoy being an adult and going to work everyday and feeling like I'm not only contributing things, but providing for my family. It has a nice sense of purpose.
She is right that it is very childish to say that no one is better than anyone else. We are one of the best countries in the world because we have drive, freedom and the ability to live our own lives at our own will. We are better than Russia, better than China, MUCH better than crackpot Iran. I am not ashamed of this. I am proud and am willing to work hard to keep it this way. The liberal won't. The liberal, guilty of their own success or hateful of others for their failure, will try to crush it and steal (see wealth redistribution) other's gains.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-11-28 08:09|| 2007-11-28 08:09|| Front Page Top

#3 But for liberals, there is a curious inversion. They believe actual children should be denied childhood. They believe it's OK for the tykes to be pressed into service as soldiers or sex workers in Africa, and let's not even get started on NAMBLA. Yes, endless childhood for adults and a hellish adulthood for children, that's the lib formula...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-11-28 08:40|| 2007-11-28 08:40|| Front Page Top

#4 I just had an image of Darth Vader (the character) sittig down at the kitchen table playing Dungeons and Dragons. Thanks Darth Vader (the commenter) :)

The liberals are ashamed of how America is much better then Russia, China, Iran, and (dare I say it) Europe. So they always have to pull America down to their level (see MSM, Hollywood, etc...).

That is why you see moonbats like Sheehan, Clooney, and the rest of the gang snuggle up to dictators and terrorists. But Shithan won't actualy move to Venezuela nor Clooney to the Muslim middle east.

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-11-28 09:09|| 2007-11-28 09:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Now I'm seeing Darth Vader roll a die and casually wave his hand so that it lands on a higher number . . .

Posted by The Doctor 2007-11-28 09:21|| 2007-11-28 09:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Crazy Fool, I wonder how long the US will continue to be better than Europe if our electorate doesn't grow up and our culture isn't cleaned up and focused on serious issues.

The 60s brought external freedom from cultural restrictions. Which is not in and of itself bad -- but it places the responsibility for maturity and discipline firmly inside each of us, our families and our responses to the culture and to the society around us. For far too many Americans over the last 40 years, no such internal discipline was sought, valued or achieved.

Grownups take responsibility for their lives and for the outcome of their choices. Our culture encourages people to feel like victims -- and to believe that *feelings* are what counts most.

Grownups realize that the world is a complicated place. They reject simplistic explanations of difficult issues - especially the simplistic explanations that lay responsibility for difficulties on some other "Them". They do what needs doing. They are proactive. They roll with the punches. When they hit a setback, they pick themselves up, shake themselves off and find a different way to move forward.

They are prudent. They work. They save. They live a little under their means when they can, knowing that good times are often interrupted by harder times. They try, where possible, to make families and marriages work. They sacrifice for their kids. They *have* kids. They give to those around them who have less. They contribute to their neighborhoods, congregations, schools or community.

We've been 'eating the seed corn' of an earlier culture for several decades now and the bin is getting pretty empty. It's more than time that we all take responsibility for filling it up again IMO.

Posted by lotp 2007-11-28 11:06|| 2007-11-28 11:06|| Front Page Top

#7 I belive that at this point american goverment is no better then any European ones, they have democracy at least or (dare i say it) more then America

Posted by evan">evan 2007-11-28 12:52|| 2007-11-28 12:52|| Front Page Top

#8 Of course you do, evan dear. Which shows your ignorance, a repairable fault. No doubt you believe what you read in the newspapers. What do your mother's cousins say, the ones who moved to the States some years ago?

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-11-28 13:16|| 2007-11-28 13:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Believe what you will, Evan, but that does not represent the reality on the ground.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-11-28 13:18|| 2007-11-28 13:18|| Front Page Top

#10 We are better than Russia, better than China, MUCH better than crackpot Iran.

Oh dear. I thought our NJ commenter, Evan, wouldn't like that...

Posted by Pappy 2007-11-28 13:21|| 2007-11-28 13:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Pappy, you'll notice that evan (who in his humility now eschews a capital E) only compares America to the European countries vis a vis democracy, not China or Iran. This shows a nice discrimination on his part. On the other hand, if he's posting from New Jersey, perhaps he ought to be conceded the point for his own part of the world -- doesn't New Jersey pretty much belong to the Mafia and their wholly owned politicians? ;-)

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-11-28 13:32|| 2007-11-28 13:32|| Front Page Top

#12 I belive that at this point american goverment is no better then any European ones, they have democracy at least or (dare i say it) more then America

Prove it. In doing so, do the following:

State your standards by which you judge the amount of democracy as "more" or "less".

State facts. Your opinion is not a fact: YOU ARE NOT GOD, AND YOU ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

Apply the standards Equally and consistently: a bad thing in America should also be bad in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America. In fact, the whole world over. None of this "one rule for thee and another for another": Just because your hypocrisy is on behalf of another, not yourself, doesn't make you less of a hypocrite, nor any less wrong. Again, YOU ARE NOT GOD, AND YOU ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

Ignoring a counterargument or a fact is not a refutation. YOU ARE NOT GOD, AND YOU ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

Posted by Ptah">Ptah 2007-11-28 13:39|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2007-11-28 13:39|| Front Page Top

#13 Ptah the Beat-Down King. Well said, well said...

Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek 2007-11-28 13:58|| 2007-11-28 13:58|| Front Page Top

#14 YOU ARE NOT GOD, AND YOU ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.

Awww, Ptah, I think you just crushed Evan, evan, Ivan....whatever the hell his name is. ;)

Posted by Swamp Blondie 2007-11-28 16:55|| 2007-11-28 16:55|| Front Page Top

#15 I had thought that people really don't start to mature till around 40. Your kids and job and bills are important, but the culture around you means nothing. But as you realize that the old rely upon the young to help, protect and defend them. That's when you start to wonder what the moral values of the youngster on the street is based upon. When you mention the Civil War, and your kids tell you that everybody was a member of the underground railroad, you say what ? You dig deeper, and you find that they know nothing about the massive sacrifices or life and limb. They are taught only the PC bullshit so they can be molded into girlymen ready to apologise for the deeds of long dead Southern Gentlemen. And this without a word for the rows of dead yanks and rebs fallen all over Virginia, Tennessee, Maryland, and Pennsylvania. They equally have no clue about Pelelu and Iwo Jima. What holds them together ? Those in Iraq, yes, but what keeps the other American youth American, and not prime future jihadis ready to please Allan ?
Our culture is hurting...hurting. We miss the simple humanness of helping our neighbor. Depending on each other, being together, sharing.

Posted by wxjames 2007-11-28 18:24|| 2007-11-28 18:24|| Front Page Top

#16 I had thought that people really don't start to mature till around 40.

In some Native American cultures, you're not considered to be a full adult until you reach 50.

Posted by Pholuse de Medici9370 2007-11-28 21:59|| 2007-11-28 21:59|| Front Page Top

#17 I'm 48 - there are some (OK... family, acquaintances, and work contacts) who would contend I still have a decade or two to go. They lie!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2007-11-28 22:18|| 2007-11-28 22:18|| Front Page Top

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