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Rebels Capture Gadhafi's Bab al-Aziziya Compound, House
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Africa North
NATO's Narrow Escape
With word of Muammar Qadhafi's imminent demise--both politically and literally--there was a collective sigh of relief at NATO Headquarters and throughout the alliance. The Libyan rebels who are about to depose the long-time dictator may not realize it, but their push into Tripoli may have saved NATO from a major military embarrassment.
Posted by: || 08/23/2011 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well surprise surprise surprise...

The withdrawal of the alliance’s only aircraft carrier, the French navy’s Charles de Gaulle, which has limped back to its base at Toulon with a faulty engine, means that the alliance is increasingly having to rely on the RAF’s ageing fleet of Tornado bombers.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/23/2011 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Isn't that the one that the Propellor fell off?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/23/2011 0:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Yup. Apparently it stayed on this time (or is the faulty engine just a cover story?)
Posted by: gromky || 08/23/2011 4:44 Comments || Top||

#4  And these are the same fellas that were going to help us kick the soviet's butts if the shooting ever started during the cold war.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/23/2011 8:17 Comments || Top||

#5  Their "help" consisting of the French firing off their nukes as soon as the Soviets crossed the French border.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165 || 08/23/2011 8:48 Comments || Top||

#6  Followed by the death of Europe Phater. The death of Europe and possibly us as well. The boomers would not have remained silent.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/23/2011 8:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Their "help" consisting of the French firing off their nukes as soon as the Soviets crossed the French border

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Followed by the death of Europe Phater. The death of Europe and possibly us as well. The boomers would not have remained silent

Let's remind that when the French developed thir nukes American doctrine (that means Kennedy's and Johnson's) was: Warsaw Pact invades Western Europe, if not stopped by conventional forces then nuke Poland and Czechoslowakia but not Soviet Union unless it launches an attack on US soil. Sorry, but solutions where America and USSR fight one another to the last European and then agree to a draw are not that palatable to me.
Posted by: JFM || 08/23/2011 9:33 Comments || Top||

#8  Alos French doctrine past 1960 was: "we can't prevent you from invading or destroying France but we can make you regret it".
Posted by: JFM || 08/23/2011 9:35 Comments || Top||

#9  JFM, France could have committed it's sizable army to fight on the side of NATO to stop the Soviets on the German border. Instead, French policy was to wait and see if the Soviets broke though. That greatly increased the chances of Soviet conventional victory and nuclear war in Europe. I'm sure Germany and the rest of NATO were thrilled by the possibility of France nuking Soviet forces in Germany as well as the NATO forces who were engaged in battle with the Soviets.
Posted by: Eohippus Phater7165 || 08/23/2011 9:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Eohippus

I know but that came (I think) four years later. May De Gaulle roast in hell. I was speaking of the period when France was stll a full NATO member but decided to get nukes. BTW because France could not afford both, nukes and an army teh French Army, except for e few elite units became a mess where on average a private fired less ammo at the firing range in a whole year than a Bush-era US Marine in two days during his training.

BTW the more I learn about de Gaulle the more I think he made a devil pact with Stalin during WWII.
Posted by: JFM || 08/23/2011 12:18 Comments || Top||


Economy
IBD Editorial: As Failures Grow, Obama Blames Others
Politics: In his weekly radio address and elsewhere over the weekend, President Obama blamed Republicans for "holding back" the recovery by blocking his still-MIA jobs plan. This wins the prize for Oval Office hubris.

He's even questioning the "patriotism" of GOP leaders on the Hill, claiming they're putting politics above country. "They're more interested in the politics of it than they are in solving the problem," he complained .

"The worst part is when you are talking to a family member of a fallen soldier and you are hugging them," he added. "And then you see sometimes our politics not living up to that level of commitment and patriotism that we see from our troops."

The most ideologically rigid president in history then accused Republicans -- who control just a third of the Pennsylvania Avenue power corridor -- of "rigidity" in refusing to raise taxes in a recession.

"When I saw our Republican presidential primary candidates suggesting that they would not be willing to close a single tax break, even if they were going to get $10 of savings for every $1 of revenue that raised, that is no longer thinking in a common-sense way," Obama said. " At that point, what you're seeing is ideological rigidity that is preventing us from solving problems."

You can't appreciate the heights of this cynicism without looking at Obama's 2006 memoir, "The Audacity of Hope," where he blamed Bush and Republicans for "anemic job growth," "flatlining wages" and not making "tough choices to control spending." All the horrible things he said came from GOP policies back then are umpteen times worse now under his own policies.

Obama can't have it both ways. He can't blame Republicans when they're in power, and then keep blaming Republicans when he's in power. At some point, he's got to take responsibility for the jobless recovery -- the first since WWII with no gain in wages and salaries in the first eight quarters after a recession's end. He's got to take ownership for the failure of his own ideas and leadership.
The only problem, if he takes ownership he is handing out a gold plated invitation for a primary challenger, and he knows it.
Posted by: DarthVader || 08/23/2011 10:10 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "He can't blame Republicans when they're in power, and then keep blaming Republicans when he's in power."

Sure he can. And will. Even after he's kicked out next year.
Posted by: Barbara || 08/23/2011 19:37 Comments || Top||

#2  "He's even questioning the "patriotism" of GOP leaders on the Hill, claiming they're putting politics above country."

I think a lot of Americans are thinking that...as in most of them...
Posted by: Trembling B4 G*d || 08/23/2011 19:41 Comments || Top||

#3  and you would know...how?
Posted by: Frank G || 08/23/2011 20:53 Comments || Top||

#4  The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 19% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-five percent (45%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -26.

You don't have a clue about Americans, Trembly.
You remember that.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/23/2011 21:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Yes, how could I forget. But we all know Americans are experts when in pertains to the other 254 countries on the planet...I will be subservient to you, as you wish Sir...
Posted by: Trembling B4 G*d || 08/23/2011 21:09 Comments || Top||

#6  join a ZimBobwe blog and see how "expert" they are. We already know you don't know shit. You prove it with every comment. Wanna play here? Show some insight or stay away from topics you obviously know nothing about. I don't comment on Canuck politics for the same reason
Posted by: Frank G || 08/23/2011 21:14 Comments || Top||

#7  of course, abject public humiliation may have passed from "lifestyle" to "justifies my existence". If so, let's play?
Posted by: Frank G || 08/23/2011 21:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Thanks for proving my point, Trembly.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/23/2011 21:28 Comments || Top||

#9  Idiot savant much, Trembling B4 G*d? Because a comparison of the data with what you think in this thread shows non-intersection.

If you are as smart as you fancy yourself, you'll start asking questions to elicit information from those who can teach you, instead of demonstrating bigotry based on ignorance.
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/23/2011 22:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Howard Dean: Obama has been a great Commander-in-Chief
". . . He's getting our troops out of Iraq. They'll be almost all gone by the end of this year, if not all of them. The Afghan war is being drawn down. Osama bin Laden is dead and Muammar Gaddafi is on his way out. Nobody's had a foreign policy record like that since -- I don't know how far back you'd have to go. Not Ronald Reagan, not George W. Bush. Nobody. I don't know, you'd have to go back to Harry Truman before -- or Franklin Roosevelt before you get a record like that."
Posted by: ryuge || 08/23/2011 11:21 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn. Obama! Obama! Ai! Ai!"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/23/2011 12:00 Comments || Top||

#2  So, if he's been so successful when will the TSA begin withdrawing from our airports? /rhet question
Posted by: Procopius2k || 08/23/2011 12:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Not great, but not bad, and that's a big surprise. He's been better at that than anything else he's done....
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/23/2011 12:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Let's see here. Our allies don't trust us, our adversaries don't respect us, and our enemies don't fear us. And all that in three years....yeah quite a foreign policy record alright.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 08/23/2011 13:09 Comments || Top||

#5  DepotGuy - that's as Head of State, not as C-in-C.
Posted by: Glenmore || 08/23/2011 14:31 Comments || Top||

#6  ... for his zombie army.
Posted by: newc || 08/23/2011 14:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Of course Howard Dean thought he would make a great CIC. Osama bin Laden is dead and Muammar Gaddafi is on his way out. Did Howard or any of the other donks ever think of the possibility that GWBush got the ball rolling?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/23/2011 17:26 Comments || Top||

#8  "Did Howard or any of the other donks ever think of the possibility that GWBush got the ball rolling?"

Shhhhh, John. They don't want you to mention that....
Posted by: Barbara || 08/23/2011 19:14 Comments || Top||



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Two weeks of WOT
Tue 2011-08-23
  Rebels Capture Gadhafi's Bab al-Aziziya Compound, House
Mon 2011-08-22
  Libyans Celebrate Takeover of Capital
Sun 2011-08-21
  Blasts, heavy gunfire rattle Tripoli
Sat 2011-08-20
  Pakistan mosque bombing kills at least 50
Fri 2011-08-19
  Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi wants to leave Power
Thu 2011-08-18
  Dozens reported hurt in 3-stage terror attack near Eilat
Wed 2011-08-17
  Libya rebels see victory by end of month
Tue 2011-08-16
  Libyan rebels push to isolate Tripoli
Mon 2011-08-15
  Medvedev signs order backing Libyan rebels
Sun 2011-08-14
  Tripoli Denies Rebel Capture of Western Port Town
Sat 2011-08-13
  'Cholera epidemic spreading in Somalia'
Fri 2011-08-12
  Two Hariri Murder Suspects Linked to Murr, Hamadeh, Chidiac, Hawi Cases
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  US drone strike kills 21 in north Wazoo
Wed 2011-08-10
  Yemeni president 'to return home'
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