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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Helen Thomas - 85 Years Young Today
U.S. journalist.
That's what you'd call it...
Born to Lebanese immigrant parents, she grew up in Detroit and joined the UPI news agency in Washington, D.C., in 1943. A pioneer in overcoming the limitations on women in the news media, she became known for her bold and tireless pursuit of Republican Presidents information. Assigned to the White House in 1961, she became UPI bureau chief there in 1974. She is best known as the reporter traditionally first recognized at presidential press conferences.
Until Ari Fleischer dissed her...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 15:01 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  She doesn't look a day over 120.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||

#2  I like the juxtapositioning of this article above one entitled "Not the New Viagra." She's an older, nastier looking version of Madeline Albright.
Posted by: Tibor || 08/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Secretly, Helen is Ari's special love interest.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#4  She is best known as the reporter traditionally first recognized at presidential press conferences.

Yeah, how could you miss that face. Best to get it over with quick.
Yeeeeeesh!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 15:49 Comments || Top||

#5  At least at evening press confrences she provies ambient lighting...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 17:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Another Camelot corpse that refuses to decompose in peace.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 08/04/2005 17:03 Comments || Top||

#7  What another? What other Camelot relics are left?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 18:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Say no to clonning humans.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 19:55 Comments || Top||

#9  What another? What other Camelot relics are left?

Hello?! Ted Kennedy?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 19:57 Comments || Top||

#10  Ageless. Simply ageless.
Posted by: Pappy || 08/04/2005 21:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Re: Camelot relics

The 1996 Politicards, three of hearts, show Teddy as a potbellied knight, leaning on his elbow in the grass and holding a mug of beer, staring gloomily at a farway Camelot, a sword firmly stuck in the stone.
Posted by: mom || 08/04/2005 22:03 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
New nuclear submarine to equip Russian fleet in Far East
Hat tip to the Interested Participant, which also offers one-stop shopping for all your woman-teacher-caught-perverting-teen-boys stories.
MOSCOW, July 28 (Xinhuanet) -- Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov said Thursday that Russia is to equip its Pacific fleet with a new generation of multi-functional missile nuclear submarine.

During his visit to the Kamchatka peninsula in Russia's Far East, Ivanov said that the nuclear submarine base of the Pacific fleet will be set in the Viliuchinsk city of the peninsula. The government will invest heavily for the completion the infrastructure of the base and it will be built into one of the most modernized in one and a half year.

Ivanov also revealed that Russia's new-generation strategic nuclear submarine Iuri Dolgorygiy, which is still under construction, will be launched in 2006. The submarine will be equipped with the new-generation "Bulava" missile which can carry 10 nuclear warheads. Another missile nuclear submarine Alexander Nevsky will be launched in 2007. After that, Russia will continue to construct other nuclear submarines, said the defense minister.

Ivanov added that Russia is ready to equip its forces in the Far East with modern weapons.
Interesting. Everything I read about the Russian Navy is that it's falling apart. Clearly some folks are working on changing that.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 01:18 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Probably want to ensure that they don't look to weak to the Chinese.

Lots of resources the Chinese might want in Siberia.
Posted by: Leigh || 08/04/2005 1:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I suggest putting wheels on the sub and keeping it in shallow water. That way when it inevitably sinks they can drive it on to land.
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:42 Comments || Top||

#3  lol, Spot! Of course, I think their true motives are what Leigh says. Gotta protect the motherland against the Chinese.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 9:42 Comments || Top||

#4  One missile with 10 nuke warheads. Wow! how practical. Why don't they ever learn? They cant keep the fleet they have from self destructing.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Just a desprerate move to try to keep things "afloat". The russians are another rapidly destructing society that longs for their glory days. Sorry chaps. Shrinking population and birthrates, high drug use, high unemployment, large social benifits and lack of national will translate into failed state.
Cya on the flipside...
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:11 Comments || Top||

#6  Shrinking population and birthrates, high drug use, high unemployment, large social benifits and lack of national will translate into failed state.

I don't understand, mmurray. I thought this was about Russia. Why did you bring France and Belgium into it?
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 13:36 Comments || Top||

#7  They have the formula for failure perfected too.
I think it is a socialist thing....
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 18:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Bigjim-KY, I'm missing your point.

We built MIRVs with 3-12 warheads too. In theory, at least, they make anti-missile defense much harder. Why is that a dumb thing to do?
Posted by: curious .... || 08/04/2005 18:19 Comments || Top||

#9  This is the navalized version of the Topol-M, the most advanced ICBM on the planet (maneuverable, decoys, NMP shielded) and similar in performance to the Trident D-5. Nothin to dismiss. Bring back the MX.
Posted by: ed || 08/04/2005 19:38 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't loose too much sleep Ed.... the MX lives

1986-H16
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:02 Comments || Top||


Europe
When Boobies Are Outlawed...
THE EU has declared a crackpot war on busty barmaids — by trying to ban them from wearing low-cut tops. Po-faced penpushers have deemed it a HEALTH HAZARD for bar girls to show too much cleavage. And in a daft directive that will have drinkers choking on their pints, Brussels bureaucrats have ordered a cover-up. They say barmaids run a skin cancer risk if they expose themselves to the sun when they go outside to collect glasses.

Last night the move was blasted as an affront. Annie Powell, of real ale group Camra, raged: “"It’s just another blatant example of Europe gone mad..." The ruling is part of the new Optical Radiation Directive — expected to be rubber-stamped by the EU parliament next month. Germans are already frothing over the new law — because bars in Bavaria have been forced to comply in advance.

Drinkers are threatening to boycott Munich's famous Oktoberfest beer festival. The city’s mayor Christian Ude fumed: "This is European law-making at its most pedantic. A waitress is no longer allowed to wander round a beer garden with a plunging neckline. I would not want to enter a beer garden under these conditions."
Another glimpse of life in the Holy Roman Empire. Or Wackyland. Remember, there is still a $1 Quadrillion bounty on the last surviving Do-Do bird.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 11:43 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Look: principles are nice and all, but there's no way I'm boycotting a beer festival. Even for something as tragic as this.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 12:04 Comments || Top||

#2  This...means...WAR!!!
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||

#3  I think the whole initiative will turn out to be a bust.
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 12:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Let me get this right. Lets see...
Brothels == Good
White Slavery of Eastern European Women == Good
Love Parades with sex in the street == Good
Nude or topless beaches == Good
Nude museums == Good

Low cut barmaid's outfits == Bad

What is it that I don't understand here.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#5  maybe they should wear the hijab.
Although it was always the strong muscular guys carrying the 8 pitchers of beer that intrigued me at ocktoberfest
No we shouldn't protest, I can see a Rantburg reunion here to discuss the matter though
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#6  That does it. I'm with tu.

I declare Jihad on the EU.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 12:45 Comments || Top||

#7  Nothing like a nice pair of melons...

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#8  The ruling is part of the new Optical Radiation Directive

With a title like that, you know it has to be chocked full of nutty goodness.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#9  Hmmm. A little too perfect, YS. Those must be fake. Did you thump 'em? ;-)
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#10  Does the EU ministry of prevention of vice and promotion of virtue have need for undercover investigative agents?
Posted by: MunkarKat || 08/04/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#11  hey YS, is that a nipple ring?
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:06 Comments || Top||

#12  Skin cancer on their faces, arms and legs is apparently not a worry. Just tits.
Posted by: mojo || 08/04/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||

#13  .com & Jan - LMAO!!!
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#14  What are those two bald heads doing in the photo?
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#15  Oh man, that photo is priceless. I just shot coffee out my nose....
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#16  "When Boobies Are Outlawed..."

Only Outlaws will have Boobies?
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:09 Comments || Top||

#17  You can have those boobies when you pry my hot wet... um, nevermind.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 16:10 Comments || Top||

#18  try again
This Festival has EU contestants.
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 17:03 Comments || Top||

#19  This is a work safety rule, right?

So instead of outlawing the lowcut tops they should mandate regular applications of SPF-40 sunblock.

To be applied by the customers, if necessary ....
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 17:48 Comments || Top||

#20  Switzerland, not a member of the EU, but who celebrates Octoberfest, should use this as a tourist marketing program...

"Our barmaids are not endorsed by European Union bureaucrats.
Come to Octoberfest Switzerland 2005!"
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 19:17 Comments || Top||

#21  Great idea, Ed! They can sell them as "Banned in Brussels"!
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 19:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Leftists renege on promise to move to Canada
Short enough to post in full
Canadians can put away those extra welcome mats -- it seems Americans unhappy about the result of last November's presidential election have decided to stay at home after all. In the days after President Bush won a second term, the number of U.S. citizens visiting Canada's main immigration Web site shot up sixfold, prompting speculation that unhappy Democrats would flock north. But official statistics show the number of Americans actually applying to live permanently in Canada fell in the six months after the election. On the face of it this is not good news -- Canada is one of the few major nations seeking to attract immigrants -- but Immigration Minister Joe Volpe was philosophical. "We'll take talent from wherever it is resident in the world. I was absolutely elated to see the number of hits and then my staff said 'You know what? A hit on the Internet is after all just a hit'," he told Reuters on Thursday. "I guess I'm happy Republicans and Democrats have found a way to live together in peace and in harmony," he said.
More like a mutual exchange of blunt instruments.
Canada, like North Korea, generally tilts more to the social and political left than the United States. Data from the main Canadian processing center in Buffalo, NY shows that in the six months up to the U.S. election there were 16,266 applications from people seeking to live in Canada, a figure that fell to 14,666 for the half year after the vote. A spokeswoman for Canada's federal immigration ministry declined to speculate on the reasons for the drop. Toby Condliffe, who heads the Canadian chapter of Democrats Abroad, did have an explanation of sorts. "I can only assume the Americans who checked out the Web site subsequently checked out our winter temperatures and further took note that the National Hockey League was being locked out and had second thoughts," he told Reuters.
I figured that it was that Leftists are very long on talk, but very short on accomplishing anything.
Leftists would be hockey fans?
Last year, Canada, which has a population of about 32 million, accepted 235,808 immigrants from all over the world.
Posted by: Jackal || 08/04/2005 21:11 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unless TV is lying to me, as Homer Simpson would say, a'some of dem dar Radical Islamists and supporters have d **** nice-looking middle/upper-class homes in Canada, as many also have in the USA and Britannia, ergo they must destroy same for Support-your-local-Mud/Sod House and Camel dealership. Gotta wonder whether the Muslim babes and grandmas are truly willing to leave their nice comfortable two-story for simpler dirt houses in the name of God. GOOD CLINTONIAN SPETZLAMISTS OF THE USSA = USR AND NORAM DEMAND TO BE GIVEN THE WORST OF EVERYTHING, AND TO STAY THAT WAY! The old guy/geezer Mullahs and Generals, like Bill Clinton or NK's Kimmie, get the best of everything, including NOT blowing themselves up in suicide missions.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/05/2005 0:09 Comments || Top||


Liberal press hits bottom investigate adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two kids
The NEW YORK TIMES is looking into the adoption records of the children of Supreme Court Nominee John G. Roberts, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The TIMES has investigative reporter Glen Justice hot on the case to investigate adoption records of Judge Roberts’ two young children, Josie age 5 and Jack age 4, a top source reveals.

Judge Roberts and his wife Jane adopted the children when they each were infants.

Both children were adopted from Latin America.

A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoptions records are part of the paper's "standard background check."

When reached by phone Thursday morning, Glen Justice had no offical comment.

Roberts’ young son Jack delighted millions of Americans during his father’s Supreme Court nomination announcement ceremony when he wouldn’t stop dancing while the President and his father spoke to a national television audience.

Previously the WASHINGTON POST Style section had published a story criticizing the outfits Mrs. Roberts had them wear at the announcement ceremony.

One top Washington official with knowledge of the NEW YORK TIMES’ plans declared: “Trying to pry into the lives of the Roberts’ family like this is despicable. Children’s lives should be off limits. The TIMES is putting politics over fundamental decency.”

One top Republican official when told of the situation was incredulous. “This can’t possibly be true?”
The press is despicable as well as the liberals. Family should be off limits, unless they are suicide bombers or something. And looking and printing stuff about an adoption? Someone nuke the NY Times, Please...
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 11:51 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What do they expect to find? Seriously?
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 12:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I dunno. They looked kinda "shifty" to me...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  If the WaPo "Style" section can mock the outfits of the kids, I'm sure the NYT can beat that! For dispicability, I mean.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/04/2005 12:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, if they weren't planning on telling them they were adopted, then they will have to at some point now. The kids will undoubtable be interested in how their father ended up on the USSC and look stuff up sometime.
Posted by: Laurence of the Rats || 08/04/2005 13:02 Comments || Top||

#5  it was already public knowledge that they were adopted. What would you find adoption records? Hmm..good question. But the NYT is such scum that you wonder if they aren't going to go locate the biological parents and see if they can make a circus show out of them.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#6  They were fishing for evidence of wrong-doing.

The NYT is slime.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  In most places, adoption records are confidential by statute. (F'instance, I, the adoptee, and the only person legally entitled to access my adoption case file.) So, is the NYT planning to violate the law to get in there?
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Both children were adopted from Latin America.

Lil' Jack. An al-Qaeda operative if I ever saw one... They are finding new and subversive ways to get into the country... Imagine, pose as an infant, get adopted, and you are in... Imagine your luck to be adopted by a prominent attorney who ends up a judge... Wow! Then your adoptive father gets on the Supreme Court...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:18 Comments || Top||

#9  Yeah. "Manchurian Candidate". I'm thinking that too...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#10  Well, we can't all be born into the Sulzberger family.
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 13:22 Comments || Top||

#11  So, is the NYT planning to violate the law to get in there?

I believe the NYT has repeatedly stated that laws do not apply to reporters.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#12  I wonder if they plan on trying to find the birth mothers and then spin the story that the children are being denied thier cultural inheritance. They can then spin Jodge Roberts as a racist and/or cultural imperialist.
Posted by: canaveraldan || 08/04/2005 13:33 Comments || Top||

#13  white children from South America. Boys from Brazil?
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 13:35 Comments || Top||

#14  Looking to see if Roberts bought the children off the black market after their parents were killed by right wing death squads backed by Regean with guns supplied by Ollie North. Or he had to buy his wife children because he's really gay and needed cover. Or he bought them for his Federalist pedofile club meetings, etc.
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#15  So I assume this means the NYSlimes will continue to print (front page) that Kenyan's offer of goats and cows for Chelsea's hand in marriage? Nah, I didn't think so.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#16  They looked kinda "shifty" to me...

Like Paul Krugman....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:43 Comments || Top||

#17  A TIMES insider claims the look into the adoptions records are part of the paper's "standard background check."

I call Bullshit! This isn't 'standard' just digging for dirt (a NYSlimes Specialty!) Did the NYT investigate Chelsea's birth? Did they require a paternaty test to determine if Hillary is really the mother?

The NYT is simply digging for slime because they hate Bush so much they can't stand the thought of him appointing someone (anyone) to the Supreme Court.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#18  The depth of their depravity never cease to amaze me. Knowing that they can't leagally "look into" any adoption records, I fail to see what they will review. Sounds like the Neoliberals have fishing partners in the NYT. I am betting the children are the result of a laison betwen Karl Rove and Lucy Rameriz. Because Karl refused to support his love children, Lucy was forced to put them up for adoption. She only did this because Roberts offered her mucho deniro and didn't want to get messed up in any laws (Lawyers are famous for this). I hear Dan Rather will run a segment in 60 minutes this Sunday and provide the docmuents. These documents came from an un-impeachable source.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 13:51 Comments || Top||

#19  "...they hate Bush so much they can't stand the thought of [insert anything, anything at all here]..."

Yes. Isn't it great? The great Sulzberger Scion, a pluperfect fool who had his entire privileged world handed to him on a silver platter, working desperately to squander the lot, is apoplectic. Works for me. Pop a vein or three, there, Arty.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 13:56 Comments || Top||

#20  I believe the NYT has repeatedly stated that laws do not apply to reporters.

Yeah, call Judy Miller in prison. See what she thinks of that policy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 13:58 Comments || Top||

#21  My, my! Such mean spirited hate speech!
Manolo, have the limo brought around. I think I'll head for the Hamptons early this weekend as I feel a vainglorious case of the vapors coming on...
Posted by: Pinchy || 08/04/2005 14:02 Comments || Top||

#22  By the way: (1) If this is true it amounts to a concession that the only way to attack Roberts is by going personal. Looking at Judge Roberts' resume, that's no surprise. (2) Like any other group of people, federal judges tend to close ranks when one of them is attacked. If this story is true, look for the NYT (Motto: "Our stories are inspired by actual events") to slip on a few legal banana peels in the near future. ("And so the Court in its discretion orders this defamation case by Lt. Smith against Mr. Sulzberger to be transferred to Fort Bragg for trial on the merits.")
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 14:09 Comments || Top||

#23  I really think it's time that reporters get investigated and treated as they treat other people. I'm sure there's all sorts of dirt to dig up on them and when they whine, we'll just say it's part of the standard background check for traitors...err..reporters.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 08/04/2005 14:27 Comments || Top||

#24  So the difference is Roberts adopted a latin American or two while Ruth Bader Ginsberg hired them for maids (w/o paying social security). I can see why the Times is so concerned about Roberts obvious pedophilia.....
Posted by: Slineper Unaving2613 || 08/04/2005 14:32 Comments || Top||

#25  Silentbrick, that's actually a good idea about investigating reporters. I do like that. Maybe that would curb some of the awful spin or fabrication of stories that are out there.
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 14:35 Comments || Top||

#26  I hear MoDo has a drinking problem...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#27  What do expect from people who thinks that a close win is actually a win.
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 08/04/2005 15:34 Comments || Top||

#28  MoDo has a drinking problem...
yeah, Raj, but anyone who actually reads her columns has already figured that out.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 15:35 Comments || Top||

#29  This is going to make me very angry.

Full disclosure: my wife and I adopted our daughter.

Adoption records are not public. There's a movement in the US, which I support in various ways, to allow adult adoptees to have access to their state records. But that does NOT extend to a news organization in any way, shape or form.

Family adoption records are PRIVATE. Once an adoption has been finalized by a court it is OVER, FINAL and DONE. I don't even know how the NYT can get the records unless they do something illegal. The court clerk sure as hell knows not to hand them to anyone.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 18:56 Comments || Top||

#30  Dr. White, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but that's not the way things work at the court house with reporters. Some compromising pictures, some bribes, some desire to get even, and nothing is private.

Oh, somebody did something illegal? Happens every day. Can't prove it was the Times reporter. Look how hard the Plame Game is.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 19:04 Comments || Top||

#31  I have faith in the Liberal Press, they will find a way to go lower than this. I just can't imagine how yet but they will. Stinking incestual necrophiliacs is what they are!
Posted by: Unegum Whaimp3886 || 08/04/2005 20:03 Comments || Top||

#32  According to Brit Hume tonight, a lawyer he talked with, said the NYTimes was trying to get from him, HOW to get into those closed records.

This lawyer said, "This is despicable."

The NYT wasn't on a "fishing expedition," they were trying to find the lake.

Wonder if the next step for the NYTimes will be to find the DNA of all the Clintons.... no, I'm not even gonna go there. But that is the path this is leading down.
Posted by: Sherry || 08/04/2005 22:01 Comments || Top||


Feds raid homes of New Orleans democrat congressman
The Washington and New Orleans homes and the vehicle of U.S. Rep. William Jefferson were raided by federal agents on Wednesday.

Bryan Sierra, a Department of Justice spokesman, would not comment on what federal agents were looking for. "There were searches executed today in connection with an ongoing criminal investigation," Sierra said. "As it is a criminal investigation we will not be able to comment any further."

In a statement, the congressman said he did "not know the extent or precise nature of this investigation." Jefferson, D-New Orleans, added: "I am cooperating fully with the authorities." His office said Jefferson was in New Orleans and was not available for further comment.

There was no sign he was at his home as FBI worked inside for several hours through the afternoon.

Shortly after 5 p.m., at least 15 agents emerged from the home, 12 of them carrying bags and boxes. Dozens of neighbors stood along the upscale street watching the raid and talked about it. Although neither Jefferson nor Sierra gave the point of the raid, Jefferson's brother-in-law, a former state judge, recently was convicted of mail fraud in a wide-ranging investigation of bail bond corruption in suburban New Orleans. The brother-in-law, Alan Green, was the 14th defendant convicted in the investigation called "Operation Wrinkled Robe." The others, including a former judge, Ronald Bodenheimer, pleaded guilty.

According to federal court documents, in a recorded conversation, Jefferson asked Green to raise money for Jefferson's daughter's successful 2003 campaign for the Legislature. The records show that Green agreed to help. The Louisiana Code of Judicial Conduct bars judges from asking for campaign donations on behalf of political candidates.

Previously, Jefferson said that he recalled the conversaton with Green, but the request for help was familial — and not political in nature.
To borrow from Da Mayor, if you can't help your family, who can you help?
"To my knowledge, nothing resulted from the conversation — the campaign did not receive any money from Judge Green or anyone who may have been prompted by him to contribute — and there were no further conversations on the matter," Jefferson said.

Rep. Jalila Jefferson-Bullock, D-New Orleans, said in May that she had no knowledge of the matter and did not receive contributions from Green or anyone he might have asked to support her. Jalila Jefferson-Bullock said late Wednesday that she knew nothing about the raid.
"Now go away. And take those #%$@&^!!@# cameras with you!"
Jefferson, 58, represents a district comprised mostly of the heart of New Orleans. He served in the Louisiana Senate from 1979 until his election to Congress in 1990 as the first black House member in the state since Reconstruction. Since his initial election, he has faced virtually no serious opposition in six re-election campaigns. He serves on the influential House Ways and Means Committee. Jefferson filed to run for governor in 1991 and 1995, but withdrew both times, before running unsuccessfuly in 1999 against then-incumbent Gov. Mike Foster.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 10:29 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  oh goodie!
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#2  They got a law against being a corrupt politian in Louisiana? Who knew?
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:55 Comments || Top||

#3  He's totally innocent, this is that vast right wing conspiracy they are always talking about. We're trying to make them look like dumbasses, er, wait. They are making themselves look like dumbasses.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Investigating corrupt Louisiana pols looks like one of the few jobs still around where you could spend your entire career in one place.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, Steve, it's a federal rap. If only we hadn't lost that damn war none of this would be happening.
Posted by: Matt || 08/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Investigating corrupt Louisiana pols looks like one of the few jobs still around where you could spend your entire career in one place.

And that's just with one defendant.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 13:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Cong Jefferson
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:46 Comments || Top||

#8  Move along.... nothing to see here....

Oh Look! Someone forgot to dot an i on one of Judge Roberts children's adoptions papers! We must demand a full investigation! Call out the ACLU!!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||

#9  They got a law against being a corrupt politian in Louisiana? Who knew?

That law is actually against Stupid Corrupt Politicians.... damn this is gonna be weird. Don't be messing to close with the judges.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 14:08 Comments || Top||

#10  wait there's Rove... over there!! Nope - no corruption here...
Posted by: MACOFROMOC || 08/04/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#11  And its not like someone was running a gay call-boy service out of his apartment. Or taking underaged Congressional pages on field trips.
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Woman arrested: tried to open door of plane in flight
Probably just a drunk or taking too many of those pills, but here just in case

A woman was arrested Wednesday for attempting to open an airplane exit door while the plane was still in the air, police said.

The 52-year-old woman from Dania Beach, Fla., left her seat and tried to open the door as the United Airlines flight was descending into Seattle to land, police said. The plane was at an altitude of about 4,000 feet at the time.

She failed but "did manage to turn the handle far enough that a warning light went on in the cockpit," Seattle-Tacoma International Airport spokesman Bob Parker told KING-TV.

A flight attendant persuaded the woman to sit back down, but nobody physically restrained her. Parker said the other passengers stayed belted in their seats in case she did manage to open the door.

The woman was arrested for investigation of malicious mischief when the plane landed. Police were investigating whether alcohol and prescription medication were involved.

A United spokesman did not immediately return a call for comment late Wednesday.
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 10:26 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Why is the door to the latrine so hard to open?"
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/04/2005 10:38 Comments || Top||

#2  She was late for her Darwin Award sign-in ......
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 08/04/2005 10:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Police were investigating whether alcohol and prescription medication were involved.

Magic Eight Ball sez, "Entirely Possible".
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 11:06 Comments || Top||

#4  And as usual everyone on the plane sat there with a terrified look on their face while a maniac proceeded to try to kill all of them.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 11:22 Comments || Top||

#5  She obviously mistook it for the subway.
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 11:43 Comments || Top||

#6  And as usual everyone on the plane sat there with a terrified look on their face while a maniac proceeded to try to kill all of them.

Not so sure. In this case, I suspect it is better to remain belted in your seat while Ms. Moron gets sucked out the door. IIRC, an airliner in Hawaii landed safely a number of years ago after the entire roof peeled off.

Dollars to donuts, an attempt to open the cockpit door would have gotten an entirely different response.
Posted by: SteveS || 08/04/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#7  You can get off here if you like, but watch out for that first step . . . it's a doozy!
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 13:19 Comments || Top||

#8  Getting sucked out of a plane by the pressure is a semi-myth. The real hazard is if you are blown out/off of the airplane by wind from the travel of the plane through the air. The plane that lost it's roof did so through metal fatigue,with a large loss of roof material peeled back and with the 450 kt wind blowing people out of their chairs and ripping the chairs off the deck. With only one door open, and below 10k feet (which imposes a 250 knot indicated airspeed limit by FAA regs) it would have been reasonably safe to try and restrain her. Through unconciousness. Via a beating.

Pressure differences in the cabin aren't enough to do anything really-- Even if the pressure outside were zero, there would only be a difference of zero to the pressure of 8k feet in the air (roughly). What it does mean is a lack of O2 to anyone in the unpressurized cabin without a mask and if the plane is above 12k feet. At 36k feet, you have literally seconds before passing out.
Posted by: Mark E. || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#9  "but nobody physically restrained her" I am flying next week and I will give all STUPID people and Jihadist fair warning. I have not had a REAL vacation in seven years and GOD help you if you try this shit on my flight. I wont ask questions and I wont care about you political or mental state. I WILL KILL YOU WITH MY BARE HANDS. I will then take my chances with a jury of my peers.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 08/04/2005 13:39 Comments || Top||

#10  I have not had a REAL vacation in seven years and GOD help you if you try this shit on my flight...

Sarge - Wait 'till the plane gets about 1000 feet off the ground (re: pressure) then toss his ass out the exit.

Of course then you will have...

"Hey mom, a dead arab guy just fell onto the neighbor's roof..."

"Yes, dear. What did I tell you about watching those Mel Gibson movies just before bedtime?"
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:55 Comments || Top||

#11  should have pushed the bitch out
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#12  Have a really good time, Cyber Sarge. I can't imagine anyone stupid enough to cause trouble on a flight you are on. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 08/04/2005 23:54 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
U.S. and China Unite to Block G4 Plan
UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The United States and China have agreed to work together to block a plan to expand the powerful U.N. Security Council, China's U.N. ambassador said Wednesday.

Ambassador Wang Guangya said he reached the agreement with John Bolton during a meeting Tuesday, which was the new U.S. ambassador's first full day in his new post, because both believe the proposal by Brazil, Germany, India and Japan would divide the U.N.'s 191 member states.
Wouldn't want to disrupt the peace and unity that exists now ...
Washington and Beijing are already on record as opposing the so-called Group of Four resolution for different reasons, but the agreement would mark a new joint effort to prevent its approval by the U.N. General Assembly, which requires a two-thirds ``yes'' vote.

Wang and Bolton, who have known each other for about 15 years, met again Wednesday outside the office of General Assembly President Jean Ping, part of a round of courtesy calls the U.S. envoy is making to Security Council members and senior U.N. officials. ``There's a lot of important work,'' Bolton said. ``It's a very busy schedule in the first couple of days, and I think it's been productive and I'm certainly enjoying myself.''
He said with a Darth Vader laugh ...
Wang said the ultimate objective of China and the United States is to expand the Security Council with a formula that is not divisive. ``But at this stage, I think our objective will be to oppose the G-4, to make sure they do not have sufficient votes to take the risk to divide the house,'' he said.

``We agreed to work together to make sure that our interests are being maintained - which means that we have to work in parallel ways to see that the unity of the U.N. members, the unity of every regional group, will not be spoiled because of this maneuver and process,'' Wang said. But he said Washington and Beijing will be working in parallel in the coming weeks to block the resolution - not together - because ``we have different friends in different parts of the world.''
True 'nuff, our friends are the democracies, and theirs ...
The U.S.-China effort to defeat the Group of Four comes on the eve of Thursday's emergency summit called by the African Union to consider whether to approve a compromise agreement which some of its ministers reached with Brazil, Germany, India and Japan in London on July 25.

Brazil, Germany, India and Japan have introduced a resolution calling for a 25-member council that would add six permanent seats without a veto and four nonpermanent seats. They are hoping to win four of the permanent seats with the other two earmarked for Africa. South Africa, Nigeria and Egypt are the leading African contenders. The African Union has proposed expanding the council to 26 members - adding six permanent seats with veto power and five non-permanent seats. A third resolution by a group called Uniting for Consensus would add 10 non-permanent seats.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Most odd, the US and China both agreeing on this matter; where we all know, when the eventual 'Tag' starts between the US and The Chinese...everyone else will be forced to decide which "side" to join! This is nothing but subdefuge which will work itself out when the shooting starts!!
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  A compromise move would be to make the rotating seats limited to these countries and not the vast number of other kleptocracies who suck resources rather than provide them [that is beyond corrupt UN bureaucrats].
Posted by: Omiger Snaviting1691 || 08/04/2005 2:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Pigs will fly before anyplace in Africa deserves a seat on the Security Council. There isn't one decently run country on the whole damned continent. Even South Africa is in a slow-motion collapse. Africans should be grateful the UN even lets their hellholes have membership in the General Assembly.
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 4:21 Comments || Top||

#4  You said it mac!! I agree.
Posted by: smn || 08/04/2005 5:21 Comments || Top||

#5  smn, when you upgrade your foil chapeau, be sure the aluminum meets all EU standards for anti-alien-mind-control beam reflection.

(also be sure you use enough !!!s - otherwise the CIA might tap into this with their telepathic clones of Karl Rove and Dick Cheney)
Posted by: leader of the pack || 08/04/2005 7:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Refer to above-mentioned post on premature female ejaculation
Posted by: Captain America || 08/04/2005 15:24 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Not the next Viagra
Coming soon: the drug company that brought us Viagra has set its sights on solving a rather less notorious sexual problem - the premature female orgasm.
"Well, Bob, I think we've solved all the medical problems in the world. Cancer is cured. AIDS is a thing of the past. The common cold is now uncommon..."
"Yeah. That was a tough one!"
"The way I see it, there are only two medical problems left in the entire world: a rare type of spavins that's contracted from a nearly extinct Outer Mongolian yak, and female premature orgasm. Which do you want to tackle first?"
"Ummm... Where can we get one of those yaks?"
The pharmaceutical giant Pfizer has patented drugs to make it harder for women to climax during sex.
Yeppers. Gonna sell like hotcakes. I'm gonna buy some Pfizer stock right now...
The patent says: "Whilst anorgasmia and difficulties with orgasm are well-represented in the female sexual dysfunction literature, rapid orgasm - a female problem sharing components with premature ejaculation in men - is notable by its absence."
This could possibly be because nobody regards it as a problem? Think real hard now. Use your imagination...
Pfizer believes couples do not complain about the condition "partly because male partners often choose to take rapid orgasm as positive feedback on their skill as a lover".
Bingo! And...?
Douglas Savage, director of the Leger Clinic in Doncaster, said: "It sounds very strange. We spend most of our time trying to give ladies orgasms."
He's almost got it, I think...
The Sexual Dysfunction Association said it had never heard of premature female orgasm, which is different from persistent sexual arousal syndrome, in which women suffer near-constant arousal. A Pfizer spokesman said the patent was not related to an active research programme and no clinical trials were planned.
"We... ahhh... couldn't find any volunteers. Not even the monkeys would sign up... The white rats laughed at us... Laughed!
Next they plan a drug that can make your golf scores higher. A guaranteed 20 strokes per hole minimum.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 08/04/2005 14:10 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strangely, I see this being a huge hit in the ME.
Posted by: BH || 08/04/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#2  This sets the bar for truly stupid research.

If I was in the position (doggie?) to do so, I would have to ask the Pfizer folks a few questions...

What is the point of sex?

When, pray-tell, have they ever had a femalian complain of this condition?
Can I meet her? Pretty please?

Why, I pray further, do the Pfizer "researchers" believe that femalians can't keep on truckin' and have 5 or 10 more? Been living under a rock for the last 40 or 50 yrs? Hell, does "Kinsey" ring a bell? Google "multiple orgasms" - you'll find hundreds of links trying to convince malians they can catch-up to femalians in this regard. Fat chance, boyz.

Boggles.
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#3  rapid orgasm - a female problem sharing components with premature ejaculation in men - is notable by its absence.

Tell 'em you're rich; works every time...
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||

#4  For the fake ones...
Posted by: .com || 08/04/2005 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Douglas Savage, director of the Leger Clinic in Doncaster, said: "It sounds very strange. We spend most of our time trying to give ladies orgasms."

I suspect the Leger Clinic is going to be very, very busy once this story gets out.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#6  For the fake ones...

Like, who cares?
Posted by: Raj || 08/04/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Horse Hocks! The money needs to be spent on Spavins. The Bedu have desert tricks that keep their otherwise Spavin prone colts happY AND HEAlthey.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 20:12 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa reveals plan to seize white farmers' land
The great success story of post-apartheid SA goes on.
By Basildon Peta in Johannesburg

South Africa's 50,000 white farmers are threatened with forced land expropriation after a government land summit called for a "fast-track" programme of redistribution.

The weekend summit was convened by the government to review the slow pace of land reform in South Africa. Significantly, it rejected the market-based willing buyer/willing seller policy as the basis on which redistribution must proceed.

The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

But President Thabo Mbeki's government is worried the target will not be met, at the very slow rate at which white farmers are offering land for sale. It also claims farmers are asking for unjustifiably high prices.

Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka told the summit the willing buyer/willing seller scheme, through which farmers voluntarily offer their properties to government at market prices, was a major drawback to land reform and said South Africa would embark on a "fast-track" programme to meet targets.

She was backed by Agriculture and Land Affairs Minister Angela Thoko Didiza who said the government should strongly intervene to ensure expeditious redistribution.

Details of the suggested "fast-track" are yet to be spelt out but the decision has been welcomed by campaigners for the landless poor. "We want this process to begin immediately," said Mangaliso Kubheka, national organiser for the Landless People's Movement. "We're waiting to see if the pledge will be implemented. The people have spoken. We need to see if the government will listen."

But white farmers and the mainly white official opposition Democratic Alliance are angry over the spectre of forced expropriations, which have echoes of President Robert Mugabe's land reforms.

They have dismissed the government's complaints as an "election strategy," ahead of local government elections later this year.

The farmers and the opposition have instead blamed the slow pace of land reform on "gross inefficiency" in the Agriculture and Land Affairs Ministry.

Prominent farmer Kraai Van Niekerk, a member of Agri SA, one of the biggest white agricultural unions, said he knew of many farmers who had approached the Ministry of Agriculture and Land Affairs with proposals to sell their properties for land reform but have not had an answer two or three years later.

"Each time they seek clarification, they are shuffled from one bureaucrat to another ... Changing the rules is not the answer. It's the government's method of operation that is the biggest drawback," he said.

Mr Van Niekerk warned that changing the rules would threaten South Africa's position as one of six countries in the world who are net exporters of food.

The Democratic Alliance spokesman on agriculture Maans Nel said the government should stop covering its mistakes by trying to play the "helpless victim".

If the government matched its commitment to land reform with the required budget and if it started implementing the legal measures at its disposal, the current situation would have looked dramatically different, he said. Ninety-nine per cent of blacks resettled were struggling because of lack of resources.

Mr Nel said there was enough evidence to prove that the incompetence of many officials in Ms Didiza's department was the cause of delays to land reform.

When apartheid ended and Nelson Mandela took over in 1994, 87 per cent of South Africa's agricultural land was owned by whites.

About 3.1 million hectares of land have been transferred to poor blacks, less than 2 per cent of available agricultural land.

Land reform is an emotive issue across southern Africa where the example of Zimbabwe looms large.

South Africa's 50,000 white farmers are threatened with forced land expropriation after a government land summit called for a "fast-track" programme of redistribution.

The weekend summit was convened by the government to review the slow pace of land reform in South Africa. Significantly, it rejected the market-based willing buyer/willing seller policy as the basis on which redistribution must proceed.

The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

But President Thabo Mbeki's government is worried the target will not be met, at the very slow rate at which white farmers are offering land for sale. It also claims farmers are asking for unjustifiably high prices.

Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka told the summit the willing buyer/willing seller scheme, through which farmers voluntarily offer their properties to government at market prices, was a major drawback to land reform and said South Africa would embark on a "fast-track" programme to meet targets.

She was backed by Agriculture and Land Affairs Minister Angela Thoko Didiza who said the government should strongly intervene to ensure expeditious redistribution.

Details of the suggested "fast-track" are yet to be spelt out but the decision has been welcomed by campaigners for the landless poor. "We want this process to begin immediately," said Mangaliso Kubheka, national organiser for the Landless People's Movement. "We're waiting to see if the pledge will be implemented. The people have spoken. We need to see if the government will listen."

But white farmers and the mainly white official opposition Democratic Alliance are angry over the spectre of forced expropriations, which have echoes of President Robert Mugabe's land reforms.

They have dismissed the government's complaints as an "election strategy," ahead of local government elections later this year.
The farmers and the opposition have instead blamed the slow pace of land reform on "gross inefficiency" in the Agriculture and Land Affairs Ministry.

Prominent farmer Kraai Van Niekerk, a member of Agri SA, one of the biggest white agricultural unions, said he knew of many farmers who had approached the Ministry of Agriculture and Land Affairs with proposals to sell their properties for land reform but have not had an answer two or three years later.

"Each time they seek clarification, they are shuffled from one bureaucrat to another ... Changing the rules is not the answer. It's the government's method of operation that is the biggest drawback," he said.

Mr Van Niekerk warned that changing the rules would threaten South Africa's position as one of six countries in the world who are net exporters of food.

The Democratic Alliance spokesman on agriculture Maans Nel said the government should stop covering its mistakes by trying to play the "helpless victim".

If the government matched its commitment to land reform with the required budget and if it started implementing the legal measures at its disposal, the current situation would have looked dramatically different, he said. Ninety-nine per cent of blacks resettled were struggling because of lack of resources.

Mr Nel said there was enough evidence to prove that the incompetence of many officials in Ms Didiza's department was the cause of delays to land reform.

When apartheid ended and Nelson Mandela took over in 1994, 87 per cent of South Africa's agricultural land was owned by whites.

About 3.1 million hectares of land have been transferred to poor blacks, less than 2 per cent of available agricultural land.

Land reform is an emotive issue across southern Africa where the example of Zimbabwe looms large.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 07:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sell the kruegerands!
Divest the stock!
I ain't gonna play Sun City.
Posted by: eLarson || 08/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#2  WTF is it with these Africans? Next door they have the perfect example of "how not to do it" and yet they consider the same thing? I just don't understand such willful stupidity (Why are you hitting yourself in the head with a hammer? Well, my buddy did it and how he's a bloody pulp, so I thought I'd try it. Sheesh!)
Posted by: Spot || 08/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#3  But we've got to develop AIDS drugs and give them to them for free. Sheesh. Sub-saharan Africa is going back to their glorious 15th century past in a hurry.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 08/04/2005 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  But likes I said, makes sure they toss in a whitey to do all that plantin shit. Bob fuckup when he don't do that down here and my farm don't grow shit.
Posted by: Farmin B. Hard || 08/04/2005 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Looks like it is time for me to advise my cousins in South Africa to emigrate to Mexico...

I'd hate to see them caught up in another Zimbabwe.
Posted by: DanNY || 08/04/2005 9:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Next door they have the perfect example of "how not to do it" and yet they consider the same thing?

It's not about doing it right, or even doing the right thing.

It's about power.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:06 Comments || Top||

#7  IMHO, this is one of those "cut your losses and get out" situations. Any white farmers holding on are only fooling themselves. What little they can get for their land today will be more than they can get tomorrow. Life isn't fair and reality sux. Time to move on.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Saw this coming when Mugabe did the same thing and his African neighbors rallied around him checking the world opinion while their main source of food started becoming an food importer.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 9:43 Comments || Top||

#9  One five thousand acre farm makes more food than 500
ten acre farms. It doesnt take a genius to figure out that this is exactly what happened to Zimbob. Chavez is watching (and drooling) at the thought of doing this in Venez to rally public support for himself. We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 9:43 Comments || Top||

#10  Hope someone has the good sense to hold this againt them when they come up in debt relief discussions.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 08/04/2005 9:44 Comments || Top||

#11  We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.

Hmmm... perhaps it should be against US law to sell or give agricultural products to countries that confiscate land in this way.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:53 Comments || Top||

#12  RC, rjs: Good ideas, all! Would you like to come assist me in NYC?
Posted by: John Bolton || 08/04/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#13  I have heard rumors for a year that the South Africans were thinking about doing this. It is getting to be dangerous to be white in South Africa. Time for them to move out and let that country sink into its own economic strife and civil war. I really think it is near time to write off the entire African continent.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#14  hell let the fuckers starve
Posted by: Thraing Hupoluper1864 || 08/04/2005 10:12 Comments || Top||

#15  Cut off Food and Aid LOL we cant even stomach to do that to the Norks who have the money to feed thier people but Kim Ill thinks it more important to have a Nuke for the invasion coming from the evil people who feed his f*cking country.

We need strong leaders Bush is to weak and the LLL's are just beyond weak.

S. Africa thou I doubt the whites thier will just lay down. They are more in number and have seen what laying down gets you (example just north). They will fight and it will be bloody. If they win or not depends on the US and Europe.
Posted by: C-Low || 08/04/2005 10:28 Comments || Top||

#16  C-Low:

Repeat of the Boer wars, huh?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 08/04/2005 10:37 Comments || Top||

#17  Reality testing:

1) South African whites, particularly those of Afrikanner heritage, have nowhere to go. No other country will issue them a passport.

2) South African whites have a heritage in the land that goes back to the 1600's.

3) When CNN starts broadcasting images of starving South African children (99.9% of whom will be black), we'll donate food aid. Just try not to.

4) There are not enough white South Africans to set up a separate country in a portion of the land. That was considered a while back at the end of the apartheid era by some of the hardliners, as I understand, but was never a viable option. There will be no Neu Boer War.

5) As you may have noticed over the decades, white South Africans of Afrikanner heritage aren't exactly popular on the world scene.

6) And land reform IS needed. It doesn't go over well to say, "well the old rules gave us all the land, and it would be unfair to have new rules that take land away from us." That isn't going to sell to the 75% of South Africans who aren't white. I believe confiscation on the Zimbabwe model will lead to mass starvation. But the current system will lead to revolution and massacre. And I don't see anyone in South Africa wise enough to solve this without bloodshed.

So basically, South Africa is screwed.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 11:11 Comments || Top||

#18  Time for an "Organization of Food Exporting Countries".

Cut off our oil? We'll cut off your food. See who lasts longer.
Posted by: Dishman || 08/04/2005 12:36 Comments || Top||

#19  The South African government has set a target of voluntarily transferring 30 per cent of productive farmland from whites to previously disadvantaged blacks by 2014.

The question is, would those "disadvantaged blacks" be any better at farming the soil than the previous owners?

We cant feed the entire world by ourselves, they better rethink this.

We should not be expected to, especially if the receipients' plight comes as a result of their own governmental stupidity.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 08/04/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#20  Call me a racist, but the more I see from Africa, the more I agree with Kim du Toit.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 08/04/2005 15:15 Comments || Top||

#21  Xbalanke, you've cited the best assessment of what to do with Africa that I've ever seen. I was just in SA last Christmas. It's a scary place, particularly after dark. And yes, there is a lot of white flight because countries like New Zealand and Australia (and even the US) WILL give white South Africans passports. JC Smuts said that the future of black South Africans was, for him, lost in a dark mist. That mist will actually be the blood of intertribal warfare as the whites leave and the Zulus and Xhosas fight it out to see who gets to rule over the ruins of what was once a First World society. I wonder if anyone in the West will take note when the black victor, whoever it is, exterminates the coloreds and the Indians?
Posted by: mac || 08/04/2005 21:06 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Cloned Puppy


HT Drudge

South Korean researchers are reporting today that they have cloned what scientists deem the most difficult animal, the dog.

The group worked for nearly three years, seven days a week, 365 days a year and used 1,095 eggs from 122 dogs before finally succeeding with the birth of a cloned male Afghan hound. The surrogate mother was a yellow Labrador retriever.

Dogs have such an unusual reproductive biology, far more so than humans, scientists say, that the methods that allowed cloning of sheep, mice, cows, goats, pigs, rabbits, cats, a mule, a horse and three rats, and creation of cloned human embryos for stem cells, simply do not work with them.

Woo Suk Hwang, the principal author of the dog cloning paper, being published in the journal Nature, wrote that the puppy, an identical twin of the adult Afghan but born years later, was delivered by Caesarean section on April 24. The pregnancy lasted a normal 60 days and the newborn pup weighed 1 pound 3.4 ounces and was named Snuppy.

Not Snoopy. The scientists named him for Seoul National University puppy.

Cloning researchers were awed at the achievement, but not everyone shared their admiration.

Nigel Cameron, a bioethicist at Chicago-Kent College of Law and director of its Institute on Biotechnology and the Human Future, noted some people see dogs as members of the family. "There's sort of a dry run here for the human cloning debate," he said. "What we do with dogs we may well end up doing with our kids."

Dr. Cameron said he objected to cloning dogs, but not farm animals or laboratory rodents. He said he did, however, oppose all human cloning, including cloning human embryos for stem cells.

The reason that other researchers are so impressed, said Mark E. Westhusin, a cloning researcher at Texas A&M University, is that with dogs, "their reproductive biology makes them a nightmare." Cats, in what might seem a turnabout, are biologically much less finicky.

Dr. Westhusin cloned the first cat, in 2002, on his second try. But, he said, after trying for a few years to clone a dog, "I quit."

His work with cats and dogs was sponsored by a private company, Genetic Savings & Clone of Sausalito, Calif. Its chief executive, Lou Hawthorne, said the company had spent seven years and more than $19 million in its attempts to clone a dog. It just opened a lab in Madison, Wis., with 50 employees. But, so far, no dogs have been cloned.

Other researchers say dog cloning is so hard, they will not try it. George E. Seidel Jr. of Colorado State said Genetic Savings & Clone approached him and "I refused." As for the South Koreans, who succeeded in what is the Mount Everest of cloning, it was "simply a heroic effort, a brute force heroic effort," Dr. Seidel said.

Snuppy is the second coup this year for the Seoul researchers. In May, Dr. Hwang's lab announced that it had created cloned human embryos and extracted stem cells from them. The dog project is separate, and its goal, Dr. Hwang explained in an e-mail message, is to use dogs to study the causes and treatment of human diseases.

Dogs have long been used to study human diseases. Rabies, in fact, was first discovered in dogs, insulin was discovered in dogs, and the first open heart surgery was in dogs. Eventually, the team hopes to make dog embryonic stem cells and test them in the animals as treatments.

Dogs presented a number of challenges to the researchers. Ovulation is once or twice a year, but not predictable, and no one has found a way to induce ovulation by giving dogs hormones.

Eventually, the South Koreans discovered, through trial and error, a signature spike in the hormone progesterone that signaled ovulation.

With other animals, scientists collect mature eggs from ovaries, but the eggs dogs ovulate are immature. They mature in the oviduct and so far it has proved impossible to extract eggs from a dog's ovary and mature them in the laboratory.

So the researchers had to pinpoint when to pluck a mature egg from the oviduct, and needed surgery to retrieve it, instead of the kind of needle suctioning used in other animals.

The next step in cloning of any other animal is to replace the egg's genes with those of an adult and let the cloned embryo grow in the lab for several days.

But no one has been able to grow dog embryos in the lab. So the South Koreans quickly started the cloning. They removed the genetic material from the eggs and replaced it with skin cells from the ears of Afghan hounds. When the altered eggs were starting to develop into embryos, the researchers anesthetized a female dog, slipped the eggs into the animal's oviduct, and hoped the eggs would grow into early embryos, drift into the uterus, and survive. They found they had less than four hours after starting the process to get the eggs into the female dogs.

Ordinarily, researchers give hormones to female animals that are to serve as surrogate mothers, preparing them to become pregnant with a cloned embryo. Not so with dogs. No one knows how to prepare a dog for pregnancy, so the researchers used the same dogs for egg donors and for surrogate mothers, 123 dogs in all.

In the end, three pregnancies resulted. One ended in a miscarriage, one was carried to term but the puppy died a few weeks later of respiratory failure, and one resulted in Snuppy.

Until dog cloning becomes a lot more efficient, few people will be able to afford to clone their pets. Mr. Hawthorne estimated that it would cost more than $1 million to repeat what the South Koreans have done.

The market among dog owners might not be much, in any case. Apart from ethical issues, Dr. Cameron said, dogs are like family members. "My dog is now deceased," he said. "But I wouldn't want to clone Charlie. It would be disrespectful to Charlie and to Charlie II."

Tina Vogel, an Afghan breeder in Norwalk, Ohio, agreed that cloning a dog "would be like cloning a person." And she is opposed to that. "If it was meant to be, God would have done it," she said.

She said Afghans have a reputation as the dumbest dogs around, but that is just because they are "very aloof," more like a cat than a dog. "They are sweet and affectionate. If you have one you can never go back."

Song to Follow
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 01:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I EMailed BigEd to post this...
I was ready


What? Are they nuts?
Are we a pair?
Me nice Labrador Girl,
An Afghan my heir.
Send in the clones.

Isn't it bliss?
Will they approve?
One who keeps chewing up stuff,
One who cleans up.
Where is the clone?
You are the clone.

Just when I'd started
Thinking that,
I would chase balls
They took me to that dingy old lab,
They put something strange in me
Then you came to me my pup,
I did not mate,
No one was there.

Don't you love farce?
I think this is.
I thought that you'd look like me -
Sorry, my dear.
But where are the clones?
There ought to be clones.
I guess you’re my clone.

What a surprise.
Who could forsee
I'd come have one like you
Not a bit alike me?
Why only now when I see
That you're a part of me
What a surprise.
Who would believe.

Isn't it nuts?
Isn't it odd?
Having a puppy right now
Snuppy its clear?
And where are the clones?
Quick, send in the clones.
Just like you my dear.
Posted by: Ogeretla 2005 || 08/04/2005 1:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Above sung to "Send In The Clowns"
Stephen Sondheim
Posted by: Ogeretla 2005 || 08/04/2005 1:49 Comments || Top||

#3  Tina Vogel, an Afghan breeder in Norwalk, Ohio, agreed that cloning a dog "would be like cloning a person." And she is opposed to that. "If it was meant to be, God would have done it," she said.

Ever hear of twins?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 7:26 Comments || Top||

#4  This (successful cloning) is probably the biggest event in our lifetime. For all the excitement, the potential ethical problems are downright frightening. Dictators will want to clone their faithful drones, people will steal DNA from celebrities and sell it on e-bay. We better set standards now, because looks like cloning is here to stay and it's not going away.
Posted by: 2b || 08/04/2005 8:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Not in dogs, RC. Each fetus is a separate egg and has its own amniotic sac inside the womb.

Dog reproduction is unusual among mammals in a number of ways, from the relationship of hormonal cycles to ovulation all the way through fetal development, delivery and post-whelping maturation (puppies are born well before full development of major organs such as the eyes).
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Um, breeder, the quoted bit specifically mentioned people.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 8:20 Comments || Top||

#7  My comment #5 was in response to RC #3 about twins, in case that wasn't obvious.

Afghan hounds have several fairly 'primitive' sets of alleles (values at various gene sites on the the chromosomes). Probably why they were chosen for this experiment. Other 'primitive' breeds such as Basenjis also have a tiny gene pool outside of jungle tribe dogs, with a concentration of some recessive alleles which can cause health problems.

Serious and responsible breeders know about this stuff - we pay hundreds of dollars for genetic testing before breeding and donate a lot of money for research to produce new tests. The recessives exist in nature, but there animals who inherit the allele from both parents may well not get a chance to reproduce and pass it along, so there's a natural leveling off of the amount of the allele in the gene pool. Breeders seek not to concentrate it further.

Humans have been allowing more and more people with the same sorts of problems to reproduce.

Cloning might just tip the balance if we're not careful.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#8  RC, I think she really is focused on the dog cloning thing too. This has been discussed for several years on the show dog breeders lists ... Vogel is a well-known and very successful Afghan breeder.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 8:25 Comments || Top||

#9  people will steal DNA from celebrities and sell it on e-bay

F. Paul Wilson, "Dydeetown World". Hard-boiled detective stories in an SF setting. The dame in trouble is a clone of Jean Harlow.

Appropriately, the UN building had been turned into a house of ill-repute.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Damn this comment thread shows expertise comes in many flavors in RB... bravo, show dog breeder!

Btw, I fully support reproductive human cloning available to all: this may well be the only way I'll ever produce offsprings (not easy finding wimmen with my physique and personnality, not to mention my social achievements), plus I may well be tempted to get a copy of myself without all the design flaws. Wow, a successful me, what a swell idea!

Oh, and keep the lack of baby-making in developped countries, especially Europe, in mind too. What about factories of clones (cue "Star wars" theme)?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 08/04/2005 9:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Who let the clones out?
(Woof, woof, woof-woof!)
Posted by: Mike || 08/04/2005 9:19 Comments || Top||

#12  Koreans cloning dogs?
Nah, too easy...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||

#13  Ima thinka muckyfordu hava sombtin too say vrey sun.
Posted by: DragonFly || 08/04/2005 9:33 Comments || Top||

#14  Tu3031: Larry Niven wrote a story about a guy who goes to a planet populated by carnivores, gets his blood taken, and later finds out that his clones were being sold as dinner for the carnivore aliens. Once again, life imitates science fiction.

So, what happens to society when some people can afford to have a clone of themselves made so they can have a ready supply of body parts that won't be rejected? The Two Americas of the future: The clone-holders and everybody else. Scary.
Posted by: Jonathan || 08/04/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#15  tu...you beat me to the punch. Thinkin' the exact same thing.
Posted by: BA || 08/04/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#16  So, what happens to society when some people can afford to have a clone of themselves made so they can have a ready supply of body parts that won't be rejected?

See also, "Clonus: The Parts Horror" and its current remake, "The Island".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 08/04/2005 9:51 Comments || Top||

#17  Ok, if no one else dares, I'll do it.

"Puppies, the other white meat"
Posted by: Steve || 08/04/2005 10:58 Comments || Top||

#18  Okay (sigh).

Just keep this in mind: the dogs and wolves have a more complex and sophisticated set of social behaviors and social verbal and body language signals than any other species except humans and some gorillas.

More complex, subtle and sophisticated than that of most other primates, in fact.

It's why they and we have partnered for at least 15,000 years and probably longer.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 11:46 Comments || Top||

#19  And that's why cloning dogs and cloning humans are similar issues, as opposed to cloning (say) sheep.
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 11:47 Comments || Top||

#20  Cloned dog? Tastes just like regular dog!

-- Researcher
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/04/2005 12:34 Comments || Top||

#21  Sic 'em, Fang.

Schutzhund spoke here
Posted by: abu Guarddog || 08/04/2005 12:50 Comments || Top||

#22  I'm not so much interested in the issues as I am in that littel Puppy. It's the damn image (don't laugh) of Cookie Dawg. An Afghan hound that hung out for years with me.... Dawg could bounce on his hind legs for 2 minutes at a time. Stone cold crazy tho and way too fast for the south.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 14:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Cloning is no good without genetic engineering to make it interesting. Why doens't this dog glow in the dark when he is mad?

Why doesn't this dog have photosynthetic skin so we can do away with feeding him and cleaning up after him? Then the mouth can be adapted for better catching of frisbies without drool.

If they are going to clone him... be bold and imaginative...

Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||

#24  3dc-

Scientists are working on your requests...

Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 16:08 Comments || Top||

#25  Because dogs are perfection itself ust as they are ... at least mine are. ;-)
Posted by: show dog breeder || 08/04/2005 17:56 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Bhopal announces cash reward for catching cows
NEW DELHI - Cowed down by a cattle menace, Bhopal’s city government is hoping to turn city residents into cowherds, by announcing cash awards for catching stray cattle, local media reported on Wednesday.
Like coals to Newcastle ...
The municipal corporation of central Madhya Pradesh state capital Bhopal, plans to give a cash award of 50 rupees (1.15 dollars) for every stray cow a person catches, the IANS news agency reported. The understaffed corporation was at its wits end on how to catch the 1,000 cows on the roads of Bhopal. It already has to deal with 1,000 cows already captured in its sheds.
I could make a suggestion but I suppose I'd be considered insensitive ...
”We have stray animal-catching squads but they are proving inadequate. So we have decided to take the help of people,” a senior corporation official told the newsagency, adding that the plan has been forwarded to the mayor for approval. He said the personnel of other departments are reluctant to catch the animals because it is dangerous and they do not get any extra money for the job.
Ohfergawdsake! They're cows! Even I have successfully roped a cow. I mean, it can't be hard. Criminy.
Cows, a revered animal for the country’s Hindus, are an urban nuisance in several Indian cities because of the large number of unlicensed dairies and illegal cow sheds. The cattle impede traffic flow and cause many accidents on the city’s roads.
Hokay, you guys, you get this big semi-truck, see, and you put a 'cowcatcher' on the front, see, and ...
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


#2  Eet mor chikin
Posted by: Chris W. || 08/04/2005 11:27 Comments || Top||

#3  remember the happy cows come from California
Posted by: Jan || 08/04/2005 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Bhopal? Call Union Carbide and have them open a valve at the plant. You'll get all the cows at once and there'll be no one around to have to pay.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 11:49 Comments || Top||

#5  50 rupees is a too small a payment.

If you figure 50 to 70 dollars/hundred weight on the board of Trade the run it a bit lower for grass-fed.

Its still a few hundred dollars ....
Posted by: 3dc || 08/04/2005 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  Cows, a revered animal for the country’s Hindus, are an urban nuisance in several Indian cities because of the large number of unlicensed dairies and illegal cow sheds. The cattle impede traffic flow and cause many accidents on the city’s roads.

Some Hindus believe that a person can reincarnate as a cow... You can milk Uncle Raj, but you can't eat him...

This is a dielemma...
Posted by: BigEd || 08/04/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||

#7  The owners of these gals (and they do have owners) are gonna be pissed off. Thisn a variation of the open range, the gals produce shit for everybody and a little milk for the owner. It's a weird system, and outdated, but it works in rural India.
Posted by: Alabama || 08/04/2005 13:33 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
South Africa to bail out Zimbabwe
South Africa's cabinet has agreed in principle to provide financial assistance to neighbouring Zimbabwe. A government spokesman said on Wednesday a loan would allow Zimbabwe to resume IMF payments and prevent their expulsion from the body. But he dismissed reports the credit could be $1 billion, saying it "could even be as low as one-tenth of that".

Last week, Mr Mugabe visited China seeking financial assistance but he did not obtain the help he had hoped for. South African newspapers reported that Mr Mugabe was only granted $6m for grain imports by Beijing.
Chinese figured out he was a loser.
Posted by: Steve White || 08/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm sure that loan will have a Double A rating.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 08/04/2005 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  This is kinda like two drunks on a Friday night trying to help each other to stagger home because they can't afford a cab.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/04/2005 9:09 Comments || Top||

#3  :> Tu
Posted by: Shipman || 08/04/2005 13:37 Comments || Top||

#4  And after SA implements the Zim style land reforms just who the fuck is gonna bail them out.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 08/04/2005 14:19 Comments || Top||



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