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Israeli Forces Pull Out of Beit Hanoun
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Africa Horn
Sudan: 200 Cases of Cholera outbreak reported
(SomaliNet) Sudan's Juba area has registered a total of 200 new cases of acute watery diarrhoea since last week, Sudan Tribune reported Tuesday. According to a United Nation's source, another Acute Watery Diarrhea Outbreak is believed to be Cholera in the capital of southern Sudan, Juba. It is believed to have started at Munuki but has rapidly spread to almost all corners of Juba. At least 424 people have been killed and 14,000 others sickened by Cholera out break since January in southern Sudan, and officials are concerned the disease could spread to other countries.

Meanwhile, Cholera has broken out in most states of Sudan, including North and South Darfur, but the toll does not include West Darfur where agencies have little access due to insecurity. Sudan's first suspected cases of Cholera were reported at the end of January in Yei. The disease was then reported in Juba, the capital of southern Sudan, and it has spread quickly. Sudan's Juba city has a population of more than 250,000 people who are known to rely heavily on polluted water from the River Nile.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
Japan, US plan joint air, naval drills from tomorrow
Japan and the United States said on Tuesday they will hold joint air and naval exercises for a week from Thursday in waters and airspace around Japan. The exercises come at a time when the international community is trying to persuade North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Myanmar allows N Korean ship to enter port
Myanmar permitted a North Korean cargo vessel in distress to anchor at a port over the weekend, and conducted an inspection that found no cargo violating UN sanctions, said a government statement sent to embassies and obtained Tuesday. The Myanmar Foreign Ministry statement said authorities received a distress call Saturday from the vessel and allowed it to enter one of Myanmar’s ports on “humanitarian grounds.”

“Myanmar authorities conducted an inspection on board the North Korean cargo vessel and found no suspicious material or military equipment,” said the statement.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fix em up, and head them back to the high seas!
Posted by: smn || 11/08/2006 1:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Probably there to pick up a load of black tar to refine back home.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 2:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Sniff, sniff, and to think it only took 30 years for North Korea to do it.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/08/2006 4:27 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Muslim fears for life over calls for sheik step-down
A prominent Muslim doctor who demanded Australia's mufti quit after his controversial sermon fears for his life after a series of threats. Dr Jamal Rifi says he received calls, emails and letters from Islamic extremists after taking a stand against his former friend Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly. The threats were spurred by an open letter written by the Bankstown GP which condemned the mufti's apparent justification of rape.

Dr Rifi said he has been forced to install a security system at his surgery and take other precautions to protect his family and staff. "I've told my wife to be careful and we now take our kids to school and bring them back every day," he said.

"We're not seeing any new patients either, only people we trust, and I've told my office to take extra care. I have to be cautious because I've had a few nasty emails and a few nasty phones calls and faxes that were not nice at all."

But the threats have not stopped Dr Rifi from further demanding Sheik Hilaly step aside following the inflammatory comments which compared immodestly dressed women with uncovered meat and seemingly blamed them for sexual assault.

He said the cleric's recovery speech last Friday did manage to relieve some tension which had built up "like a pressure cooker about to explode". But his offer to resign if an ethical tribunal found him guilty of condoning rape "just causes more problems", the doctor said.

"He has already been trialled, judged and convicted in the court of public opinion so he must go," said Dr Rifi, who formed the Australian Muslim Doctors Against Violence during the Lebanon-Israel conflict.

"What he said has done a lot of damage. I believe he is the wrong image of Islam and it's really not a good reflection on our community, him staying in this position."
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2006 02:59 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As so sadly appears to be the case, vocal moderate Muslims like Dr. Jamal Rifi are an infintesimally small minority. If the Australian government has any class, they will give the good Doctor police protection. If the Australian people have any brains, they will understand that a significant portion of their Muslim population agrees with al-Hilali and act on that basis from now on.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 3:34 Comments || Top||

#2  The religion of peace at work for you. Can't even stand itself.
Posted by: gorb || 11/08/2006 5:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Zenster

Maybe some moderates dont talk out because of threats from the radicals.I sense the muslims fear the radicals more than their own governments.We need to weed out the bullys with the help of the Muslim community!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/08/2006 6:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, we had a big thread on just that subject a few days ago. I think the moderates need access to an anonymous 'tip line' or something like that.
Posted by: gorb || 11/08/2006 6:03 Comments || Top||

#5  So the "moderate muslim" rate is 2 muslims per billion.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 11/08/2006 8:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Maybe some moderates dont talk out because of threats from the radicals.

This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Not speaking out only further empowers the radicals. Moreover, it is a deadly spiral for radical and moderate alike because, by dint of no opposition, they both aggregate into the enemy. If moderates cannot be distinguished from the enemy, they will become the enemy. Why do you think you see authors like Fjordman posting such articles as, "Why We Cannot Rely Upon Moderate Muslims"?

This is why you see me posting:

After a while silence is not consent. To remain silent is to lie.

Moderate Muslims, like the good Doctor Rifi, will necessarily have to risk their lives if they do not want to be incinerated with the radicals when the tipping point finally has been reached. Again, we ARE NOT obliged to sort these sheep from the wolves. They must begin to take back their faith by force or watch it fully evolve into the political ideology it has become and thence be banned from practice, dismantled and destroyed.

None of this is the West's fault. All of it is Islam's fault. Radicals and moderates alike have willingly put up with Wahabism becoming the de facto global standard for Islam. This has become tacit approval for radical Sunni doctrine and the blowback is just beginning.

I sense the muslims fear the radicals more than their own governments.We need to weed out the bullys with the help of the Muslim community!!!!

You'll note that I support Dr. Rifi getting police protection. In the same measure, I hope all of you will note that a vast majority of Western law enforcement agencies already have anonymous crime reporting mechanisms in place. While it may be that some increased advertising of this in the Muslim communities might be useful, there is no extreme need for establishing an entirely separate wing of this function to deal with radical Islam.

Much more important are stricter laws dealing with religious incitement to violence and harsher penalties, including deportation, for any and all involvement in or financing of terrorist operations.

We cannot save the moderate Muslim. They must save themselves or otherwise their faith really wasn't worth saving now, wasn't it? Is there anyone actually willing to argue that the West must save Islam out of some warped notion of multicultural heritage? We've already tried the equivalent of that in Afghanistan and Iraq with sheer absolute ingratitude as our only repayment.

One of Islam's only hopes is the radical reformist who is willing to take up arms against those who defile their faith. When the jihadis are being stacked up like cordwood behind every mosque, only then can anyone come to me with arguments about Islam being worth saving. My own personal estimation of unreformed Islam is that is is barely worth the powder to blow it up (to use an apt analogy). And blast it to smithereens we must if we want to survive.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 13:41 Comments || Top||

#7  Go Zenster! Well said!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Islam as a whole shouldn't be compared to its extremists. Yes, there are murderous and mysogenistic Muslims, but contrary to many of these comments posted, the majority of them are not. It's like comparing the whole of Christianity to the IRA or the Westborough Baptist Church.
Posted by: Deveran || 11/08/2006 19:39 Comments || Top||

#9  Perhaps, Deveran , but a goodly portion of the Muslim world is either actively at war with the West, or supportive of those who are. We would love those who are against jihad and the jihadis to speak out against the behaviour of their brothers-in-faith, but very few do, and as another article on this site details, they put the lives of themselves and their families at risk by doing so. If Islam as a whole wishes not to be tarred with the brush of terrorism, then Islam as a whole would be wise to punish those whose actions tar the rest... or at least let the world know that Islam as a whole does not support such ideas and behaviour.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 19:48 Comments || Top||

#10  Islam as a whole shouldn't be compared to its extremists.

It's not a matter of comparison, Deveran. Where is it written that the West must delicately pick through all Muslims in order that we do not harm the moderates while we go about eliminating the jihadist threat? We are under no such obligation. The West has only one duty, to preserve itself against all further Islamic terrorism.

If moderate Muslims do not want to be thrown out with the bathwater, they had best begin making a clear and obvious distinction between themselves and radical Islam. To date, these efforts have been minimal where they have even happened at all.

Ask yourself. Where were the large street protests each time there was another atrocity after 9-11? There were essentially ZERO for Bali, Madrid, London and so forth. Neither American nor European Muslims, who live in nations that protect freedom of expression, have gone the least bit out of their way to express any outrage over the incessant stream of Islamic atrocities against the West. The few protests that have happened involve less than a fraction of a percent of the Muslim populations in any of these regions.

Yes, there are murderous and mysogenistic Muslims, but contrary to many of these comments posted, the majority of them are not.

Nice try at the moral relativism, but no dice. You have convolved two separate traits, neither of which are acceptable but ones that do not always manifest simultaneously.

Whether or not Islam is always murderous, it is almost unanimously mysogenistic. Islam essentially represents a policy of instutionalized Abject Gender Apartheid. Disregarding terrorism (if that is even possible), the routine and horrible abuse of women disqualifies Islam as a valid religion.

As I mentioned above, Islam must undergo reformation, just as the Christian church did. Where have you seen the least indication of any groundswell support for such a notion? It simply does not exist in numbers sufficient to make any difference in our policy towards how we are obliged to deal with Islam.

This false religion, in its current unreformed state, is in reality a dangerous totalitarian political ideology which seeks to subvert all host cultures that it infiltrates. Furthermore, it is up to Islam and Islam alone to begin reforming itself. No amount of outside force, save the direct threat of total extinction, will ever be likely to motivate Islam to reform. Again, this is why I place the burden of effort upon moderate Muslims who must now become radical reformists.

Nothing less is acceptable. We cannot tolerate Islam's continued pursuit of Weapons of Mass Destruction in order that they may inflict them upon us. If Islam cannot be dissuaded from this unwholesome pursuit, it must be destroyed. Period.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 20:27 Comments || Top||

#11  PS:
Please go to my post # 6 and click on the link for Fjordman's article about "Why We Cannot Rely Upon Moderate Muslims". Please read it and then see if you feel compelled to return and continue your arguments.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||


Europe
15 years jail demanded
So... the law DID finally catch up with the Piranha brothers!

AMSTERDAM — The public prosecutor demanded in Amsterdam Court on Monday jails terms of up to 15 years against six terrorist suspects in the so-called Piranha case.

Both Samir A. and his co-accused Mohamed C. are facing 15 years in jail on allegations they were planning a terrorist attack in the Netherlands.

The 20-year-old A. has previously been acquitted of terrorism charges.

The public prosecutor said on Monday five of the six suspects formed a terrorist organisation that was planning to attack the headquarters of the security service AIVD.

All five suspects were also accused of illegal weapon possession. Three of them also tried to recruit Jihad fighters, it was alleged.

The prosecution demanded a 12-year sentence for Nouriddin El F. and 10 years for his ex-wife, Soumaya S. A fifth man faces eight years in prison.

The sixth suspect faces 12 months for forging documents and illegal weapon possession. He has already been released.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/08/2006 05:36 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: Politix
Breaking (NBC) -- Bush Announces Rumsfeld's Resignation
Breaking on TV. No web links yet.

Talking head sez Rummy to be replaced by some insider from Bush Sr.'s administration.

Update:
Bush is nominating former spy-guy Robert Gates for Secretary of Defense.

Update:
MSNBC finally put up a link. Bush's press conference is still running live on TV.


Update:
In appreciation for Rumsfeld's service to our country, here's a review of the legendary Rumsfeld Fighting Technique.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 11/08/2006 12:50 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Drat.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/08/2006 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  What the hell?
Posted by: The Doctor || 11/08/2006 13:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Not Baker. Please say it isn't Baker.
Posted by: Jonathan || 11/08/2006 13:02 Comments || Top||

#4  In retrospect, it does seem that Bush, Rummy & Co. were, in 2004, given 2 years to make:

1. significant progress in the security situation
(say a reduction in US combat fatalities to 30 a month and a reduction of Iraqi terrorism fatalities to, say, 'only' 5 or so major suicide bombings a month)

2. the beginnings of a withdrawal (to say under 100k deployed).

I think the political progress in Iraq would have been considered important if #1 and #2 would have occurred.
Posted by: mhw || 11/08/2006 13:05 Comments || Top||

#5  I sure hope he's not actually resigning. He's going to be on the hook for millions in legal bills once the Democrats start hitting him with subpoenas.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/08/2006 13:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Now imagine the confirmation hearings in a Democratic Congress.
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/08/2006 13:05 Comments || Top||

#7  *bleep*.

Replacement is not Baker. Robert Gates, former CIA director.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/08/2006 13:07 Comments || Top||

#8  Excalibur - exactly right. The confirmation hearings will be the opposite of the auto-da-fe the dems wanted to visit on Rummy. Instead, their "we hate Amerikka" show will be wide open for all to see in any confirmation soap opera.

Good jiu jitsu if you ask me...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/08/2006 13:09 Comments || Top||

#9  Replacement is not Baker. Robert Gates, former CIA director.

Oh great. An alumni of the biggest failed institution in the executive branch.

The CIA won the war, folks. Unfortunately, their war was against the elected government of the US.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/08/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#10  Don't get caught being a cool-aid drinker.

MHW has it right - what has changed in the last 2 years in the war? Its time for new blood and a new perspective. Rummy made his mark and refurbished the military, now lets get someone in there that can use it.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/08/2006 13:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Yeah Sam...but is Gates that guy? No doubt there's 'Burgers with more info on him than li'l me but I'm not impressed.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/08/2006 13:27 Comments || Top||

#12  Bush is in meltdown mode. He's projecting a constant course in the WOT (this time, without funding). Please won't you be, my neighbor

Pelosi for President ! Pelosi in 08 !
Long live comrade Pelosi.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/08/2006 13:28 Comments || Top||

#13  Did the U.S. just do a Spanish reflex election?

Seems the constant drumbeat in the last month, death by one's and two's in Iraq and Afganhistan just turned the stomach's of too many american voters. (As opposed to Spain - one big boom and they hide under the bed, Americans need dozens of little stings to make them give up...nice work by the opposition and US Media - or is that redundant?)

I think we'll see more trouble - and more bloodshed - than less with the loss of Rumsfeld and both houses of Congress.
Posted by: Rob06 || 11/08/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#14  Gates guy is a Baker guy.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2006 13:56 Comments || Top||

#15  As we all know, the WOT is an intell war, so in that sense the choice of Gates makes sense.

Questions about the competence of the CIA, esp during the late cold war, will be very important during confirmation.

Most importantly, though, Gates wont be undermining Rice.

Rummy was a drag on the WOT generally these last couple of years, and he wasnt coming up with any new ideas on Iraq. and he seems to have lost the confidence of much of the uniformed military.

Kudos to Bush for having the sense to be flexible.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/08/2006 14:01 Comments || Top||

#16  Dubai - the intellectual elite of teh ME - that's not saying much, a-hole
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 14:16 Comments || Top||

#17  Interesting: Gates had a big meeting with Bush last weekend in Crawford. I suspect Bush had a good long look at the internals and knew what was coming. Sure wish he'd gotten out on the trail more and had articulated his message more clearly the last two years but that's water under the bridge now.

Rummy won't lack for legal representation; that's covered since he's an ex-Secretary (common courtesy extended to them).

As to the Dhimmidonk show, getting Rumsfeld out of the way removes the most obvious lightning rod. Cheney will stay -- can't remove an elected official -- but he can fend for himself in any Congressional hearing. Putting in Gates allows Bush to say that "he's heard the message" and defangs, at least a bit, the Dhimmis.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/08/2006 14:25 Comments || Top||

#18  Hibjobol Abjub, enjoy it while you can.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 14:42 Comments || Top||

#19  While the Iraq war caused some erosion, the real problem lays squarely at the feet of the Congressional leadership: they have let the republican caucus just run wild, without discipline or philosophy of any sort.

Grotesque and abusive pork, ethical failure without correction until just before the elections, obstinance and disloyalty without rebuke. At their best they appeared stampeded by the White House, but for the most part the President just signed whatever bills they sent him without guidance from beginning to end.

When the bill was terribly flawed, he just issued one of his ubiquitous signing statements as notice that he was less than thrilled about enforcing it.

Legislatively, the last six years have just been chaotic. After the spate of 9-11 bills just gushed through Congress without serious consideration, the rest of their time was spent gouging the taxpayers for perversely large government growth.

The was NO conservatism, in any sense of the word, just the mad scramble of kids in a candy store with one minute to stick as much candy in their pockets as they can carry.

The public voted for democrats out of default. If the opposition party had been the Marijuana party, it would have become the new majority--not for any reason of its own, but just to STOP the republicans from continuing to misbehave.

There is no other mandate for the democrats other than stalemate. Unfortunately, only the few good things the republicans would do will be what is stalemated. Otherwise, the democrats will just compound the problem.

Well, hopefully, Bush will spend the next two years vetoing everything that crosses his desk. Otherwise, if he truly does believe that his job is to execute anything Congress wants, our country will be in a sorry state, indeed.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/08/2006 15:08 Comments || Top||

#20  I'm going to miss him bitch-slap the reporters at his press conferences.
Posted by: Charles || 11/08/2006 15:46 Comments || Top||

#21  Not Baker. Please say it isn't Baker.

Gates is Baker's boy.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||

#22  Lieberman(I-CT) just said some pretty glowing things about Robert Gates on Hannity, for what that's worth.
Posted by: eLarson || 11/08/2006 16:15 Comments || Top||

#23  As we all know, the WOT is an intell war, so in that sense the choice of Gates makes sense.

As we all know, the CIA has been running a war against the White House. The choice of Gates is an admission that they've won.

Most importantly, though, Gates wont be undermining Rice.

Who cares if State's undermined? The primary interest at State is not upsetting their post-retirement, Saudi-funded speaking tours.

Sorry, Iraq. Sorry, Afghanistan. We weren't up to the task.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/08/2006 16:22 Comments || Top||

#24  Well, hopefully, Bush will spend the next two years vetoing everything that crosses his desk.

That will pretty much guarantee a Democratic President next term. Bush would be wise to work with Congress, rather than against it. If he is seen as being a barrier to change, then all I can say is hell hath no fury like an electorate scorned.
Posted by: C || 11/08/2006 16:29 Comments || Top||

#25  you talking about whats been going on the last few years? Gates hasnt been in the CIA since 1992. Are you suggesting the CIA is part of one grand liberal conspiracy going back through the 1960s?


I didnt say undermining State, I said undermining Rice. Which Rummy has been doing, and to all accounts shes pissed. I bet that was part of his leaving, as much as polls and election results.

Are you guys so far out that anyone who wants to you know, talk to anyone, is a soft lilly livered coward?

Back when i said Powell and Rummy werent in agreement, i was told here it was good cop, bad cop, the admin was all pulling together. Till Powell left, and it turned out they all did despise each other. Than I told you Rice was pulling in a diff direction from Rummy, and again, that was idiocy spread in the MSM.

De Nile aint just a river in Egypt, and the fruit of that was yesterday. Too bad that didnt just empower patriotic Dems, but its put some really questionable people like Murtha in positions of influence.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/08/2006 16:32 Comments || Top||

#26  "Sorry, Iraq. Sorry, Afghanistan. We weren't up to the task"

Well Rummy sure wasnt. I wouldnt give up on Gates though.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/08/2006 16:35 Comments || Top||

#27  Would active duty Rantburgers give your personal and colleagues reactions to Rumsfled's resignation?
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#28  Ima zippin it on this one.
Posted by: Thoth || 11/08/2006 17:24 Comments || Top||

#29  Ed, why would anyone do that? Why don't you tell us where you work and then tell us how you really feel about your boss? What's his name? Got his phone number? I'm just curious - that's all.
Posted by: kla;je || 11/08/2006 17:39 Comments || Top||

#30  one would have hoped that victory would have allowed the frothing haters to relax and enjoy knowing that the world will suddenly be a peaceful, happy place without homeless or climate change.

But Buzzsaw and others shows they are just getting started with their little stone-throwing hate fests.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#31  Are you suggesting the CIA is part of one grand liberal conspiracy going back through the 1960s?


No. I'm suggesting I don't trust anyone connected with CIA because the institutional ties are suspect. The most successful (though not perfect) part of the executive branch -- the DoD -- is getting shafted while the fuck ups at CIA and State are getting off free.

Rumsfeld was trying to set up a parallel intel operation because DoD couldn't get what it needed from CIA. Wanna bet Gates tosses that out?

Are you guys so far out that anyone who wants to you know, talk to anyone, is a soft lilly livered coward?

WTF is the point of talking to people who have no intention of following any agreement? Why talk to people who consider "compromise" to mean they slit your throat later rather than sooner?

And, Christ, what's the point in talking if the people supposedly doing the talking for you are working against you? State fucked up Turkey, fucked up Iraq, and along with the CIA pulled shit like the whole Plame farce. State's job is to make the case for US policy to other countries, to get those willing to come along to come along. Instead, they've been some of the most consistent critics and backstabbers around.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/08/2006 17:55 Comments || Top||

#32  Why gladly kla;je. My boss's name is ed. You can do that when you set up your own corp and chase your own contracts.

But since the discussion is Rumsfeld's ditching, I am a bit lacking in knowledge. Now why don't you share with us what the folks most effected by this think. You can even pull stuff out of your ass. It's all anonymous here and folks will give your opinion the weight it deserves.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 17:59 Comments || Top||

#33  Lol.

Thanx, Buzzy, I was looking for a laugh today. You served it up.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 18:09 Comments || Top||

#34  Personally, I like Rumsfeld and his style. Clearly it does not work for lots of other people. The results were not happening on the ground and there were several issues that seemingly should have been anticipated that were either ignored or not addressed (I'm thinking choking off the Syrian and Iranian borders as an early priority - this would have required far more troops - also increasing the size of the military after 9/11).
Posted by: remoteman || 11/08/2006 18:25 Comments || Top||

#35  Rummy took down two of the world's worst tyrranies and set ffity million people free. Well done, good and faithful servant.
Posted by: Mike || 11/08/2006 18:34 Comments || Top||

#36  When organizations go through major changes there is always the guy who does all the hard stuff, and who is hated for it. Then the guy who follows on soothes all the troubled souls, continuing exactly in the path laid out by the first guy, and he is loved for it. Mr. Rumsfeld is an old hand at these games, and presumably knew what he was in for when he started down the primrose path. He has indeed done well for the department he served twice in his life, and what he has wrought will not undo itself. Now if only someone would accomplish the same at the CIA, FBI and State.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#37  While technically the Afghans and Iraqis have been liberated, it can be argued that there has been little or no liberation. In both cases we've created relative power vacuums into which Paki Pashtun nuts or Iranian/Syrian nuts are flowing respectively. So what we really did was topple the pre-existing regimes while providing some measure, and I emphasize some, of a chance for these peoples to be truly liberated under stable governments. Unfortunately that stability is hard to come by when external forces are working with internal forces to create chaos.

BTW, there were other ways we could have sealed the borders, but those ways would have involved direct warning attacks via air assets on three other countries (Pakistan, Syria, Iran). Not as sure a thing as having boots on the borders, but with enough steel in the threat it might have worked.
Posted by: remoteman || 11/08/2006 19:18 Comments || Top||

#38  I was right where I always am, Buzzsaw dear, at home playing housewife and mother of pre-licence teenagers. Are you always such an idiot, or did the election bring out your whimsical side?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 19:51 Comments || Top||

#39  he's not whimsical - he's just an asshole.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#40  Posted by Buzzsaw 2006-11-08 20:12|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

Hey, I'm glad Rumsfeld is out. I couldn't stand the guy. But looking at your arguements, I have one thing to ask you...Are you drunk? You're all over the place.
Posted by: Thoth || 11/08/2006 20:25 Comments || Top||

#41  You are quite right, Buzzsaw. You're completely incapable of spelling intriguing; it's got two Gs and no Qs whatsoever.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 20:38 Comments || Top||

#42  once was funny - twice was stretching - you're not making any fans, idjit
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 20:39 Comments || Top||

#43  wisdom from Nigel in Spinal Tap: "It's a fine line between clever and stupid...y'know?"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 20:42 Comments || Top||

#44  Well there's an IP to hang onto, Mods.

Yo, Buzzy, fuck off.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||

#45  Enough of this psycho.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||

#46  Buh-bye....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 21:08 Comments || Top||

#47  Lol. Dave D., Engineer, Bartender Extraordinaire, Asshole Assassin, RB Mental Health Professional, and Armorer, lol. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 21:12 Comments || Top||

#48  Damn, you take good notes... waddaya got, a database or somethin'???

(You forgot "Proud Philadelphian"...)
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:16 Comments || Top||

#49  :-) I've had to upgrade to Oracle-38 to keep up, lol. And I left out cat-herder, lol.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 21:18 Comments || Top||

#50  Proud Dad .... forgot that one...
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 21:21 Comments || Top||

#51  Damned Oracle - keeps dropping rows...

I'm gonna go back to Access - it always worked. ;-)
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 21:25 Comments || Top||

#52  LOL
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:26 Comments || Top||

#53  Speaking of cat-herders, something hit me between the eyes this afternoon on the long, hard slog drive home. THIS is exactly the position that Pelosi is in now....herding cats. They don't have a BIG margin, and many of the seat gained are in deep-red territories where the Donks are more like Zell Miller than Murtha/Pelosi. Could be an interesting 2 years watching her try to herd said cats, and it may very well rip the mask off and make her go berserk when she can't implement her berkley ways, lol. Oh, what interesting and consequential times we live in.
Posted by: BA || 11/08/2006 21:28 Comments || Top||

#54  The only thing I can say about the Rummy situation is that it was two months too late to help any GOP candidates. IMHO - if W really wanted to help those GOP candidates running yesterday he should've sacked Rummy about 6-8 weeks earlier.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 11/08/2006 21:33 Comments || Top||

#55  "...and it may very well rip the mask off and make her go berserk..."

Oh, great. Now I'm gonna have nightmares about what might be underneath that mask...

Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:34 Comments || Top||

#56  I have to say, BA, that I have precisely zero confidence that the people who just placed Marin Country in charge of the House and 2 steps away from Pres will pay any attention whatsoever to anything except that they're getting theirs.

The thought process that found this a good thing to do in a time of war is not just foreign to me, it's incomprehensible. And that's not even going into precisely how looney she and her supporters actually are.

AC was right this morning - since they won, thanks to the self-absorbed assholes in the electorate, the loonies aren't going to take it to the streets...:
"Too bad. Maybe next time."
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 21:36 Comments || Top||

#57  ever see "Dr Phibes" movies?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

#58  that was to DD
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 21:41 Comments || Top||

#59  I hadn't thought of that, .com; what the hell am I gonna do now with 9,700 rounds of ammunition?

Gonna hafta sleep on it. G'nite...

Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:43 Comments || Top||

#60  Never hoid of 'em, Frank...
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 21:44 Comments || Top||

#61  '70's - Vincent Price...
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 21:44 Comments || Top||

#62  I completely agree with you, .com on those who voted to give the pubbies "a lesson." It's so very foreign to me too. However, (call me an optimist), it is a SLIM margin, the seats they won are in deep-red districts, a lot more moderate/conservatives, AND it all has to go through the Prez's office (Please, George, finally use that veto pen!). They do NOT have enough to overturn vetoes, and I still wonder about Lieberman (after hearing him with Hannity this afternoon). He was pretty pissed about those Donks who threw him under the bus.
Posted by: BA || 11/08/2006 21:52 Comments || Top||

#63  .com I think you are absolutely right about the danger that this places our nation in. But if you look at the ballot propositions across the country they were a resounding condemnation of core liberal positions.

Nancy's position is actually pretty tenuous ASSUMING Bush demonstrates some backbone and pushes hard against any moonbattery legislation she and her ilk try to implement. I am highly sceptical that this will be the case as the president has not demonstrated any strength whatsoever with congress outside of WOT issues.

The other difference is that the media is going to give these assholes a huge pass on, well, everything. The sleepy electorate who are watching Reese's divorce proceedings get their ill-informed opinions from these folks so they'll probably think everything is peachy until they wake up to a major attack.

But when I think of the Republicans in Congress and especially the Senate, I'm reminded of the photo we use here on RB of the paki-wakis with holding the signs saying "Kick Our Asses". They really did some incredibely stupid things.
Posted by: Remoteman || 11/08/2006 21:53 Comments || Top||

#64  Rantburg Emasculator™



Damn my bad luck again! I missed another Troll and missed out on all the fun of cutting his mustard seeds OFF!!

Heh MODS, I'll just leave this TROLL TOOL here so we all can cut the Bastards when ever they show up!

»:-)
Posted by: RD || 11/08/2006 21:54 Comments || Top||

#65  Buzzboy is the reason why I try not to post here. Say something meaningful, then try to defend against self absorbed idiots.
Rummies gone. Damn. TW's post #41 is the direction my thought is taking. Make a drastic maneuver and throw them off guard then bring the forces towards them in another direction (them being the Dems and the terrorist). Time will tell if this works.
Yesterdays elections are not the end of the world, but certainly a wake up call. The R's need to lick there wounds and then start listening to what their base is asking for (like my fellow Rantburg citizens) and make the right changes for '08.
More than I've ever said on the 'Burg and I shall STFU now and just read.
Posted by: kilowattkid || 11/08/2006 21:58 Comments || Top||

#66  thanks for the comment kilowattkid, you've been an RBee a long time!
Posted by: RD || 11/08/2006 22:01 Comments || Top||

#67  Sorry, been on the phone.

Sure, the Pubbies are typical politicians - two agendas. One for public show - we'll vote for this stuff cuz it gets us your vote, and the private one which gets them the contributions and goodies. I held my nose and voted because it was unthinkable to me to allow the worst bunch of parasitic freakazoid scumsucking assholes yet bred in this country to take over.

All the marbles. Nothing else even matters, relative to that.

Our greatest threat is internal, by far. That we have a swing segment that is capable of being this selfish and, well, puerile (hate to use a word like that twice in the same day, but...) is as bad as the segment that have become pure Stalinist Tranzi tools.

Since I don't want to invite undue attention and grief, I'll restate that I'll abide by the rule of law.

[mumble mumble mumble]
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 22:41 Comments || Top||

#68  .com,
"swing segment" sums it up. Punishment by staying home or voting for'D' to make a point. The "swing segment" didn't neccesarily vote for 'D' as they voted against 'R' and we all shall pay the price in the next 2 years for their uneducated votes. But, we also have 2 years to educate and help reform the party and "swingers" (no puns please).
In Ohio, I had to hold my nose and vote for Dewine. AAAGGGHHHH. But I did, regardless of his poor stance on the 2nd amendment and weak attempt at border control, etc, etc.
A whole lot of the 'D's that got voted in, based themselves on a conservative platform, if they don't perform in 2 years they're gone. Let's just hope that the wedding ring on their left finger doesn't weigh them down and makes them lean that way on all of their votes.
Now I know I've said to much, and must retire for the evening. Tomorrow is a new day and let's all work towards '08. Not just here on the 'Burg, but in our homes and communities.
That's just my thoughts and all thought is tax exempt, for now.
Posted by: kilowattkid || 11/08/2006 23:08 Comments || Top||

#69  Our greatest threat is internal, by far. That we have a swing segment that is capable of being this selfish and, well, puerile...

And thank God for what you call the internal threat, or what I call the Independents, that is, those that can think rationally. There's nothing more sickening than people who hold on to losers at the expense of the lives of others and the welfare of their country. Thank God for Independents.
Posted by: C || 11/08/2006 23:13 Comments || Top||

#70  Indeed. The Independents will never do anything except play spoilers. A higher calling you can't conceive of, it appears.

You seem to think that here and now is no different from any other time. I disagree. The lethality of weapons, alone, makes your position specious and asinine, but that's cool, cuz you're an Independent, a spoiler, a spoiled self-satisfied smug banal foolish child who will leave it to others to do the heavy lifting, the hard work, and yes - rebuild afterwards.

Have a nice life.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 23:22 Comments || Top||

#71 
Most importantly, though, Gates wont be undermining Rice.
LOL. Considering that Rice is the architect of our do-nothing policy, this is exactly the problem.
Posted by: JSU || 11/08/2006 23:39 Comments || Top||

#72  "Rice is the architect of our do-nothing policy"

Geez, is everybody ignorant about how the fucking govt works?

Unfuckingbelievable.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 23:40 Comments || Top||

#73  The 'Great Decider' fires Rummy on 8 November. If he would have made that move on 6 November he could have saved some of those Republicans from being booted out of office. Everyone knew going into this election that there were a lot of Independents (me) and many Republicans that wanted to see a change at Def Sec. Bet some of those folks that got axed are a bit pissed at the 'Great Decider'. Hey 'W', timing is everything. Enjoy the next two years as all those former loyalists take their whacks at you.
But don't worry, I'm sure ole Rush will still be there to carry your water. That is if he isn't in prison for illegally obtaining prescription drugs or enjoying an extended stay at the Betty Ford Clinic. MFRAS
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 17:36 Comments || Top||

#74  Sorry 'anon', you're right. That was mean. But how do you think I feel. Yesterday I was the Gov of the state of Maryland. And a damn good one at that. I lowered taxes. I brought the budget to a surplus. All I needed was a little lift from the 'Decider'. Something to show that the party is listening to our constituents. But now I'm out of a job because I got rolled by the the slow hand of 'W'. I sure miss ole Dutch Reagan. He wouldn't have let this happen.

Bob Erhlich
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 18:03 Comments || Top||

#75  Thanks Lol. I think you get it. Don't take this setback to seriously. I was a loyal Reagonite. Dutch was 'Da Man'. Dutch had a vision and he could articulate it. I had hoped 'W' would lead us and maintain those values that we Reagonites fought so hard to bring to DC. But 'W' has lost his way. Too much bad stuff happening under his watch and he doesn't ask for accountability. So now I'm an Independent waiting for someone to reinvigorate me to come back to the GOP. And trust me, we are many.

Oh by the way 'Mike'. You say Rummy liberated 50 million people. Are you sure you aren't confusing reality with some Star Trek episode? Always wondered what you guys do when there are no Star Trek Conventions going on. Just kidding about the convention thing. But please do elaborate.
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 19:01 Comments || Top||

#76  Dear 'trailing wife', where were you when I needed you (hmm..the Grass Roots). Perhaps if you had called my boss and extolled my virtues upon him I would still be with job. I especially liked the 'troubled souls' and 'primrose path' comments, although I have absolutely no idea what the hell you meant.
Thanks for suggesting that I do the same thing to the CIA, FBI and State. But why did you stop there. I could do the same thing to NSA, HSA and TSA. Heck lets throw in SSA, I always wanted to fix that place. Glad you appreciated my work. Hey, if you ever get elected President, would you call me ? I'd like to work for you. You can find me at the local Walmart. I'll be the old fella sticking those little smiley faces on other old people.

Don Rumsfeld
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 19:23 Comments || Top||

#77  Hey 'remoteman'. Man am I glad that you are on this frequency. I've got my foil cap on so here goes. The other day I was in Trader Joes. And man they had this great sale on nuts. But I couldn't figure out which ones would be the best bargain. What nuts do you suggest, the 'Paki Pashtun Nuts' or the 'Iranian/Syrian Nuts' ? Oh, and dude, which ones go best with Pabst Blue Ribbon ?

Keeanu Reeves
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 19:33 Comments || Top||

#78  Hello. It's lonely here. The silence is deafening. Perhaps I offended someone. I'm sorry. Dealing with this multiple personality disorder is such a bitch. I, What do you mean I!, I mean we, didn't mean to offend anyone. We were just playing. Please come back. I, ouch that hurts!, we promise to play nice. remoteman, Lol,can we talk ? trailing wife call me.

Robin Williams
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 19:54 Comments || Top||

#79  trailing wife. So glad you responded. I was getting 'whimsical', wasn't I. That 'pre-licence' teenager thing is difficult to deal with. Try scrubbing their head with a mixture of Borox and Pine Tar. That ought to kill those little buggers. Now, about this 'playing housewife' thing. That's in*798..I was try to spell intriqing but I can't. That's curious. Do you dress up like June Cleaver ? She was hot. I don't think Ward ever knew what he had there. If she had come out to Vegas and watched me strut my stuff she would have left the old boy and his sweater back in Mayfield.

Tom Jones
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 20:12 Comments || Top||

#80  trailing wife. I gotta go. But feel free to post your phone number for me so that I can give you a call. Too bad we missed Halloween. We could have been Ozzie and Harriet. But seriously. I just received the following: Donald Rumsfeld's resume/accomplishment text.

Donald Rumsfeld

2000-2006 Secretary of Defense

2000 - Spent the first year of my duty trying to cut the number of active uniformed Marines and Soldiers. Cut the number of military bases. Told the Generals they can 'do more with less'.

2001 - Little hiccup. 9/11 thing happened. Send in grossly undermanned force to track, isolate and kill Osama Bin Laden. Let them escape from the Bora Bora Mountains. My bad.

2002 - Gotta kick some raghead ass. Lets see. The bad guy, OBL, is in Afghanistan. The pricks that hit the WTC are from Saudi Arabia. I got it. Lets f*ck Iraq. Besides that guy threatened W's daddy.

2003 - I did it. I gave those ragheads in Iraq some Shock and Awe. Boy are they going to love us now. Bet they greet our boys with some candies and flowers. Had some difficulty finding those WMD's. Oh well. Freedom and Democracy should make make them like us.

2004 - W told me to keep a low profile. He needed to get re-elected. I'm hibernating.

2005 - I'm staying the course dammit. We are going to win. Hey, those sacrifices by our young men and women are appreciated. I send letters to their families signed by a machine. What, you expect me to sign them by hand. Yeah right. What do you people want. Look at my pal DICK Chaney. He isn't backing off. He was there during the big war in the 'Nam. I don't know what he was doing but it must have been important because he told the Army, five times, he was too busy to fight in that war. Sorry, my resume is messed up. But these are the people I work for.

2006 - I'm standing firm. Stay the course. Hell I don't have any kin in this war. W says I'm doing a great job. Those bad guys are in their last gasp. The insurgency is dead. The Iraqi people love our boys. Ignore those caualties. We will be here for a long, long time. I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

2006 - Walmart. Hi would you like a smiley face ?
Posted by: Buzzsaw || 11/08/2006 20:58 Comments || Top||


'I, for one, welcome our new Democratic overlords.'
My brother's post from his blog (exurbanleague.com)has been picked up by Instapundit and the Corner! He's the first member of our family to have his own instalanche ;-)
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2006 11:26 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Congratulations, ryuge! His site is mentioned in the Wikipedia link on the subject, too. Apparently he was the first to have used the phrase.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||


Minnesota Democrat becomes first Muslim to win seat in Congress
Democrat Keith Ellison was elected as the nation's first Muslim member of Congress on Tuesday, easily winning a Minneapolis-area district Republicans had not carried since 1962. Ellison, who is black, is also Minnesota's first nonwhite representative in Washington. He said those things were only of secondary importance.

"I think the most important thing about this race is we tried to pull people together on things we all share, things that are important to everyone. We all need peace, and this Iraq policy is dangerous to our country," said Ellison, who has called for immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops. Ellison said his campaign united labor, minority communities, peace activists. "We were able to bring in Muslims, Christians, Jews, Buddhists," he said. "We brought in everybody."

Ellison focused on issues that resonate in the urban, liberal-leaning 5th District in Minneapolis. By favoring gay rights and legal abortion, Ellison cut a path away from many Muslims. Hayat Hassan, 30, a single mother and a Muslim, said she voted for Ellison because of his positions on health care and education. "I didn't even know he was a Muslim until one of his campaign workers told me," she said.

The seat was thrown open when longtime Rep. Martin Sabo said he would retire after 28 years. The Minneapolis-centered district is the most Democratic-leaning in the state; in 2004 seven of 10 voters went for John Kerry for president. That meant the real battle was the September primary, and Ellison, the endorsed Democrat, beat several strong candidates in that race, including Sabo's former chief of staff Mike Erlandson.

Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society, compared an Ellison victory to Edward Brooke's election in 1966 as the first black senator since the 1870s. He said Muslims followed the campaign closely, and that they are more excited about seeing a Muslim in Congress than they are concerned about Ellison's strong liberal views. "We are monotheistic, but we are not monolithic. There are things within our own community that we disagree about," he said. Ellison's views "might be a concern but I think the overall factor of having a Muslim voice in Congress overrides those types of concerns."

Ellison's campaign had to deal with reports of overdue parking tickets, late campaign finance reports and unpaid taxes. He also faced questions about anti-Semitism because of past ties with the Nation of Islam, a black Muslim group led by the confrontational Louis Farrakhan. Ellison, a criminal defense attorney who converted to Islam as a college student, denounced Farrakhan, and he won the endorsement of a Minneapolis Jewish newspaper.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2006 02:49 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's see this guy try and call for Congressional prayer breaks five times a day.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 3:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Looking forward to the stuffed shirts getting mooned 5 times a day.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Shit this camel bag was endorsed by the Muslime terrorist over at CAIR and no one in Minnesota said a word! This dirtbag will be funneling intel right to our enemies.

One dark day for the North Star State.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/08/2006 11:27 Comments || Top||

#4  I always viewed Minnesota as the Berkeley of the midwest (or mideast if you prefer) with regard to politics.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 11:31 Comments || Top||

#5  and he won the endorsement of a Minneapolis Jewish newspaper.

Good little Dhimmis. Now die.

Powerline did a very detailed expose of exactly who this man is. The paper blacked out ALL of the information. The people in Michigan are in for some rocky times.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Minneapolis (aka Murderopolis) is in Minnesota. Here in Michigan, we have Dearborn, thanks very much.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/08/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Minneapolis is also known as Minnihopeless. It's no coincidence that I have been spending a lot of my free time in the last couple of months getting my house ready to sell.
Posted by: Mike N. || 11/08/2006 12:20 Comments || Top||

#8  oops - my bad.

Keith Ellison is a terrorist supporter. That any paper would endorse him really baffles me - especially a Jewish one. Nothing good will come of from his new found power and clearly it will embolden the Islamist fanatics both here and abroad.

I have to think that Jewish liberal democrats had to feel somewhat of a ill will blowing on their victory celebration today. The Democrats institutional embrace of the not-so-far left's "Get out of Israel" stance is, in light of the rise of anti-semitism we are seeing in Europe, not a good thing at all.

But don't feel left out. Christians will also be in for the heated bigots blame game. Just as "get out of Israel" is a socially acceptable way of expressing bigotry towards Jews- heaping blame and hatred toward the Evangelicals has become socially acceptable bigotry towards all Christians.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 12:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Nancy Pelosi's gonna look great in a burqua...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/08/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#10  I have to think that Jewish liberal democrats had to feel somewhat of a ill will blowing on their victory celebration today.

One would hope. But their numbers are shrinking steadily.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 13:24 Comments || Top||

#11  One would hope that denial has it's limitations.
But, Olmert is still in power just yards from the front. How long does it take reality to sink in ?
Posted by: wxjames || 11/08/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#12  "There are things within our own community that we disagree about"

That's what jihad and car bombs are for. Takfir and fatwas for everybody!
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 11/08/2006 14:04 Comments || Top||

#13  Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society, compared an Ellison victory to Edward Brooke's election in 1966 as the first black senator since the 1870s.

Uh-huh. Yeah right. Except for that one little detail that Brooke was black (a race) vs. a Muslim (religion). We are not to have ANY tests regarding religion in order to elect someone to office. It does give me some hope that he's split with the fundies (Islamic) on social issues (Abortion and Gay Rights), except that they have NO stance on abortion like Christians do (Gay Rights is another matter to the jihadis though).
Posted by: BA || 11/08/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Muslims excluded from India's spy agency - report
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/08/2006 05:17 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  smart
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/08/2006 13:08 Comments || Top||

#2  And? Common sense isn't a western notion. It goes hand in hand with a survival instinct.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/08/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Probably a mistake - you'd think they'd want to recruit field agents to deploy in certain countries on their northern border.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/08/2006 19:44 Comments || Top||

#4  muslim first, Indian spy second
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 20:19 Comments || Top||


We'll fight militants, but talks can be held: Musharraf
President General Pervez Musharraf said on Tuesday that the government would tackle militancy with force, but would also pursue peace through political means. “We will never close the option of dialogue and political settlement and it will continue despite these actions (against militants). We will undertake action wherever we find such militant activity,” the president said while chairing the day-long 99th Corps Commanders’ Conference here at General Headquarters (GHQ).

Gen Musharraf briefed the conference about the Bajaur madrassa strike and said that it was based on intelligence reports that the seminary was training militants and actively involved in terrorist activities. “Terrorism is a threat to our national security and it will be combated and crushed at all cost,” Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) quoted the president as saying.

However, he said extreme care was being exercised to ensure that there was no loss of innocent lives or collateral damage while combating terrorists. “This was also ensured in the case of the recent Bajaur incident where we had evidence that militants were being trained,” he said. “We must control extremism, sustain economic and democratic reforms and address all issues that are critical to the country’s growth and security in the long term,” he added. The conference was given a detailed presentation on the security situation in FATA and Balochistan. The president explained his strategies to deal with the situation in FATA and Balochistan, and to sustain economic growth and bring the benefits of the growing economy to the poor.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Bajaur survivors shifted to secret location
BAJAUR: Three men who survived the recent military raid on a madrassa in Bajaur have been shifted to an undisclosed location, reported BBC on Tuesday. Abubekar (20), Syed Wali Shah (18) and Noor Rehman (16) were taken to hospital following the strike and the Red Cross was funding their treatment, but journalists were not allowed to meet them. It is not yet known whether the ban on meeting them had been imposed by the federal government or the provincial government. Talking to BBC, the three men rejected the government’s claim of foreign terrorists’ presence in the madrassa at the time of the strike. They said “we never participated in a militant operation, nor did we ever go to Afghanistan”.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  we wuz just praying...with weapons
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 7:47 Comments || Top||

#2  “we never participated in a militant operation, nor did we ever go to Afghanistan”

"None of these cars are stolen. None of my friends stole any of these cars."
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 13:48 Comments || Top||


Pashtuns protest Pakistani 'meddling' in Afghanistan
Interesting switch here, isn't it?
CHAMAN: Several thousand ethnic Pashtuns rallied in a town near the Afghan border on Tuesday, accusing Pakistan of meddling in Afghanistan’s affairs. The protesters, Pakistani Pashtuns and some Afghan Pashtun refugees, accused Pakistan of providing sanctuary to Taliban militants. “We demand the government of Pakistan stops playing its game in Afghanistan,” Hamid Khan Achakzai, a leader of a Pakistani Pashtun nationalist party and a former member of parliament, told the rally in Chaman. “This duplicitous policy poses serious danger to the entire world,” Achakzai said. Protesters at the rally shouted “Down with terrorism in Afghanistan” and “Down with the policy of interference in Afghanistan”.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's a surprise. Pashtuns control most of their own affairs, even under occupation. They should be supporting Karzai (a Pashtun). He should capitalize on this rather than spending most of his time in his security perimeter.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/08/2006 2:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope this makes worldwide news and make people aware of the fact that Pakistan Govt actively supports the Taiban!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/08/2006 6:05 Comments || Top||


Pak minister calls for single Kashmir govt
Tahir Iqbal, Pakistan’s minister of Kashmir Affairs and Frontier Regions, has called for the establishment of a single government for the entire state of Jammu and Kashmir with internal autonomy except for defence, foreign affairs and currency. He was answering a question about “self-governance” which, it was suggested, had created a great deal of confusion in the minds of the people. Iqbal was asked to define what the self governance that Gen Pervez Musharraf first proposed was and what it would entail. Iqbal did not say whose responsibility the three subjects – defence, foreign affairs and currency – would or should be.
Iqbal said there is no “cross-border terrorism” into India from Pakistan and asked India not to point fingers at Pakistan, because, “if you point one finger at us, we will point three fingers at you.”
He also declared that “we should not wait another 60 years” considering that the UN resolutions passed 60 years ago have produced no solution of the dispute.

Thrice during his address at the Kashmiri-American Council on Monday, he called on India to show “some flexibility” and come up with “in-box” solutions, a characterisation that perplexed many among his audience. The consensus was that by “in-box” solutions, the minister meant “out-of-box” solutions that President Musharraf has often called for. Iqbal has been here with two members of the Azad Kashmir Council for nearly two weeks, but it was not clear what they have been doing. In New York, they have met someone who is running for Congress and some local Kashmiris. Till the time of writing, they had not met any US officials.

Iqbal said there is no “cross-border terrorism” into India from Pakistan and asked India not to point fingers at Pakistan, because, “if you point one finger at us, we will point three fingers at you.” He said this more than once. He was hopeful of the outcome of the Foreign Secretary talks between India and Pakistan from November 14-15.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  inbox? Iqbal said there is no “cross-border terrorism” into India from Pakistan and asked India not to point fingers at Pakistan, because, “if you point one finger at us, we will point three fingers at you.” He said this more than once

what a genius
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 7:49 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
World sees vote as start of new foreign policy
'The end of a six-year nightmare for the world,' EU parliamentarians say

MADRID, Spain - The seismic shift that midterm elections brought to Washington’s political landscape was welcomed by many Wednesday in a world sharply opposed to the war in Iraq and outraged over the harsh methods the Bush administration has employed in fighting terrorism.

From Paris to Pakistan, politicians, analysts and ordinary citizens said they hoped the Democratic takeover of the House of Representatives would force President Bush to adopt a more conciliatory approach to global crises, and teach a president many see as a “cowboy” a lesson in humility.

But some also expressed fears that a split in power and a lame-duck president might stall global trade talks and weaken much-needed American influence.

On Iraq, some feared that Democrats will force a too-rapid retreat, leaving that country and the region in chaos. Others said they doubted the turnover in congressional power would have a dramatic impact on Iraq policy any time soon, largely because the Democrats have yet to define the specifics of the course they want to take.

The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, said American policy would not dramatically change, despite the Democratic election success. “The president is the architect of U.S. foreign policy,” the ambassador said in a videotape distributed by the U.S. Embassy. “He is the commander in chief of our armed forces. He understands what is at stake in Iraq.”

'Beginning of the end'
Regardless of the effect on world events, global giddiness that Bush was finally handed a political black-eye was almost palpable.

In an extraordinary joint statement, more than 200 Socialist members of the European Parliament hailed the American election results as “the beginning of the end of a six-year nightmare for the world” and gloated that they left the Bush administration “seriously weakened.”

In London's Guardian newspaper, commentator Martin Kettle wrote: "The cheering can be heard not just in America itself but around the planet."

In Paris, expatriates and French citizens alike packed the city’s main American haunts to watch results, with some standing to cheer or boo as vote tabulations came in. One Frenchman, teacher Jean-Pierre Charpemtrat, 53, said it was about time U.S. voters figured out what much of the rest of the world already knew. “Americans are realizing that you can’t found the politics of a country on patriotic passion and reflexes,” he said. “You can’t fool everybody all the time — and I think that’s what Bush and his administration are learning today.”

Democrats swept to power in the House on Tuesday and were threatening to take control of the Senate amid exit polls that showed widespread American discontent over Iraq, nationwide disgust at corruption in politics, and low approval ratings for Bush.

Bush is deeply unpopular in many countries around the globe, with particularly intense opposition to the U.S.-led war in Iraq, the U.S. terror detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and allegations of Washington sanctioned interrogation methods that some equate with torture.

In Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez said the Democrats won the election thanks to a "reprisal vote."

People across the Mideast also reacted swiftly, saying it appeared the U.S. president had paid the price for what many view as failed policy in Iraq.

Most governments across the region had no official comment, but some opponents of the United States reacted harshly. “President Bush is no longer acceptable worldwide,” said Suleiman Hadad, a lawmaker in Syria, whose autocratic government has been shunned by the U.S.

Iranian state television blamed U.S. strategy in the Middle East for the change. "Experts believe that Bush's wrong strategy in the Middle East, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as financial corruption in the United States, was the main reason for the failure of Republicans in the midterm election."

Even some Iraqis voiced hope for change. “We hope American foreign policy will change and that living conditions in Iraq will improve,” said 48-year-old engineer Suheil Jabar, a Shiite Muslim in Baghdad.

In Copenhagen, Denmark, 35-year-old Jens Langfeldt said he did not know much about the midterm elections but was opposed to Bush’s values. He referred to the president as “that cowboy.”

In Sri Lanka, some said they hoped the rebuke would force Bush to abandon a unilateral approach to global issues. The Democratic win means “there will be more control and restraint” over U.S. foreign policy. said Jehan Perera, a political analyst.

Passions were even higher in Pakistan, where Bush is deeply unpopular despite billions in aid and support for President Gen. Pervez Musharraf. One opposition lawmaker, Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, said he welcomed the election result but hoped for more. Bush “deserves to be removed, put on trial and given a Saddam-like death sentence,” he said.

But while the result clearly produced more jubilation than jitters, there were deep concerns.

Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen told broadcaster TV2 he hoped that the president and the new Congress would find “common ground on questions about Iraq and Afghanistan.” “The world needs a vigorous U.S.A.,” Fogh Rasmussen said.

Worries in China
Some also worried that Democrats, who have a reputation for being more protective of U.S. jobs going overseas, will make it harder to achieve a global free trade accord. The accord, said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso, “is very important for the future of trans-Atlantic relations.”

And in China, some feared the resurgence of the Democrats would increase tension over human rights and trade and labor issues. China’s surging economy has a massive trade surplus with the United States. “The Democratic Party ... will protect the interests of small and medium American enterprises and labor and that could produce an impact on China-U.S. trade relations,” Zhang Guoqing of the state-run Chinese Academy of Social Sciences said in a report on Sina.com, a popular Chinese Internet portal.

The prospect of a sudden change in American foreign policy could be troubling to U.S. allies such as Britain, Japan and Australia, which have thrown their support behind the March 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Democrats campaigned on a platform that demanded a change of direction in Iraq, and the war has lost the support of the majority of American voters.

“The problem for Arabs now is, an American withdrawal (from Iraq) could be a security disaster for the entire region,” said Mustafa Alani, an Iraqi analyst for the Gulf Research Center in Dubai.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 16:07 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Don't count on it.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/08/2006 16:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe this will inspire the Iraqis to quit s_iting around and accelerate their security plans.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/08/2006 16:38 Comments || Top||

#3  One Frenchman, teacher Jean-Pierre Charpemtrat, 53, said it was about time U.S. voters figured out what much of the rest of the world already knew. “Americans are realizing that you can’t found the politics of a country on patriotic passion and reflexes,” he said.

How Phrench of him.
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/08/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#4  The world don't understand demo's are seriously paranoid about national security and if a attack comes here they will probably overreact and there will be no press to tell them to stop. It will be worst for them.
Posted by: djohn66 || 11/08/2006 16:47 Comments || Top||

#5 
Israel is doomed.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 11/08/2006 16:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, said he welcomed the election result but hoped for more. Bush “deserves to be removed, put on trial and given a Saddam-like death sentence,” he said.

That's okay, Hafiz. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. Wanna hear mine? Someday Pakistan should glow in the dark for about a thousand years...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2006 16:54 Comments || Top||

#7  In my darker moments since the elections I feel Osama was right: we Americans simply don't have the stomach to finish the job. Hell, we don't have the stomach to properly start the job, IMO.
Posted by: xbalanke || 11/08/2006 17:00 Comments || Top||

#8  I bet a lot of Europeans are wondering who the Dems will put up as Prime Minister and they'll be in for a shock when they realize Bush has two more years still.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 11/08/2006 17:10 Comments || Top||

#9  When I was in France a few months ago I was asked (twice) if I was going to vote for Bush in the next election.



{8^0
Posted by: Parabellum || 11/08/2006 17:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Peace in our time.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Quick reality check here. Dems win a small majority in the House, and may (or may NOT) take the slimmest of leads in the Senate... and this qualifies as a "seismic shift.... to [the] politcal landscape"?!?!?

Jeebus! It sounds to me like the Dems and their MSM cheering section are simply amazed they didn't screw up yet another election in a major way, and are close to breaking their arms patting themselves on the back.

At least the current situation makes it plain to see that the Dems, MSM, Euroweenies, and Islamists were unified in their goal of dividing America, and now gloat together over their shared "victory".
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 11/08/2006 17:45 Comments || Top||

#12  Fuck Europe. For that matter, fuck the world. Let them all stew in their petty despots and learn to live under sharia.

But some also expressed fears that a split in power and a lame-duck president might stall global trade talks and weaken much-needed American influence.

In other words, they want us so long as we do their bidding. They know Democrats will do that, so now they're happy.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/08/2006 18:03 Comments || Top||

#13  They'll be crushed once they realize that most of the people voting for the Dems did it because of domestic concerns (ie. illegal immigration, Republican arrogance after 12 years in power), than because of a deep seated need to be loved by the rest of the world.

They'll be even more crushed to find out "that cowboy" is still in power.....heh!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 11/08/2006 18:44 Comments || Top||

#14  Yeah, too bad that cowboy gave that groveling, weak kneed speech today.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/08/2006 18:53 Comments || Top||

#15  watch the hands, not the mouth
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||

#16  Ya' know...I tend to agree with RC - screw Europe. It's especially inviting to say screw European socialists.

The Democratic Party has a (to Europeans) distressing habit of trying to spend more money in this country and supplying less to foreign aid as far as I can remember - that's not necessarily a bad thing in this case.

I could even get behind sending less taxpayer money overseas and spending more of it here - provided it was spent on the military, on missile defense, on the space program, and on repairing our electrical and transportation infrastructures.

We've sent way too much money to way too many despots and dictators over the generations.

Not that that's what I really expect to see from this bunch...

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 11/08/2006 19:27 Comments || Top||

#17  One Frenchman, teacher Jean-Pierre Charpemtrat, 53, said it was about time U.S. voters figured out what much of the rest of the world already knew. “Americans are realizing that you can’t found the politics of a country on patriotic passion and reflexes,” he said.

Well heck, if I were French I wouldn't have anything to be patriotic about either.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/08/2006 19:39 Comments || Top||

#18  What people do not realize is that Europe AND the US, despite all the Kool-Aid that is drunk, is still subject to become a big-a$$ed Car-B-Que, if we all continue to be all fuzzy about the Muzzy. Whether the Donks or the Trunks are in power.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2006 21:30 Comments || Top||

#19  AP, I tend to agree with you, but see almost the opposite. If we get hit again, on their watch, I almost expect them to over-react (to prove how macho they are). Like a cornered tiger, you can only push so far, and then the Donks may very well OVER-RESPOND to any future attacks. As many have said here (more eloquently than I), this was NOT a mandate on Iraq....it was a mandate on how off rail the pubbies have gotten (Dubai ports, illegal immigration, judges like Harriet Maier, spending like drunken sailors, etc.). Plus, if we get hit or attacked again on the homefront, we know that only us heat-packers will be left standing to pull the lever the next time. What's ironic (still to me) is that AQ, Hamas, et al want to hit us for GRAND EFFECT, which means the urban centers. Those urban centers will loose a LOT of Donk voters if we get nailed again (except for Chicago, where the dead will vote on, doods).
Posted by: BA || 11/08/2006 21:41 Comments || Top||


Head of Hariri assassination probe meets with UN chief
UN Secretary General Kofi Annan met Tuesday with the head of a UN probe of the murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafiq Hariri, Annan’s press office said. Serge Brammertz, a Belgian prosecutor who is leading the international investigation into the 2005 attack, made no comment to reporters as he left the meeting with Annan.

The United Nations described the meeting as routine, but it came as a proposal for the creation of a special international tribunal to try suspects in the attack, remained mired in controversy. Lebanese media reported last week that the Lebanese government had received the proposal for the international court, which would require approval by the UN Security Council and the Lebanese government and parliament.

The US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, said Tuesday that Washington wanted to see the proposal move forward rapidly. “We’re very concerned to move quickly to set up the tribunal,” Bolton told reporters, expressing hope that the Security Council could consider the proposal “within the next few days, or certainly next week, if possible.”

The UN wants the tribunal to be set up before the conclusion of Brammertz’s investigative panel, which is due to issue its next report in mid-December, a UN official said. The idea for the international tribunal, which would meet outside Lebanon for security reasons, was floated in March by Annan.

Brammertz has pointed to possible links between Hariri’s death and 14 other attacks against anti-Syrian personalities in Lebanon since October 1, 2004. The UN probe has implicated senior officials from Syria, which for decades was the power-broker in its smaller neighbor. Damascus strongly denies any connection with the killing.
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Iraq
Sectarian strife in Iraq forces mixed couples to divorce
When Hiba Sami (38) freely married her husband 18 years ago, she never thought she would one day be forced to divorce him against her own will.

"I love my husband, but my family has forced me to divorce him because we are Shi'ite and he is Sunni. My family say they [the husband's family] are insurgents, and that living with him is an offence to God," Sami said.

"We have four children, and every day they cry because they miss their father. When they ask for an explanation, my family tells them that their father is a betrayer and should be kept away from them," she added.

Hundreds of such mixed couples have been forced to divorce due to pressure from insurgents, militias or families who fear that they could be singled out, according to the Peace for Iraqis Association (PIA), a local NGO devoted to the issue.

"Families living in happiness are now victims of sectarian violence," said Ahmed Farid, a psychologist and spokesperson for the PIA. "Children are being forced to see their parents divorced, not because of personal problems but because someone believes that mixed marriages are unacceptable in the circumstances of Iraq."

Farid said forced divorces could cause serious psychological problems for the children involved and further brainwash them to accept sectarian violence.

"There is a case of a child who tried to kill himself because his parents divorced. He tried to stop them from separating," he said.

Farid said the association has received many threats from insurgents and militias for trying to prevent divorces between mixed couples by trying to persuade relatives against the idea.

Prior to 2003, doctrinal differences were never a problem in Iraq. Mixed marriages between Sunnis and Shi'ites and between Sunni Kurds and Arabs of both sects were common in the days of former president Saddam Hussein.

Following the United States-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, sectarian divides began to emerge as the majority Shi'ite population, which had been heavily discriminated against under Saddam's government, began to reassert itself as the dominant political power.

Sectarian violence escalated considerably after Sunnis bombed a revered Shi'ite shrine in the northern city of Samarra in February this year.

The Iraqi court responsible for carrying out divorces said that over the past four months there had been a significant increase in the number of divorces occurring. Most of them were between mixed couples but the court could not confirm whether they were forced or not.

Religious leaders are divided on this issue. Some are calling on mixed couples to divorce for their own safety. "[Shi'ite] women are in danger [if] they live with Sunni males who could be involved in insurgent activities. For their protection, divorce is best," said Sheikh Ali Mubarak, a religious leader from Sadr City district.

Sheikh Muhammad Rabia'a, a religious leader from Adhamiyah district, says mixed couples should not divorce if they are living in harmony.

The government estimates that two million of Iraq's 6,5-million marriages are unions between Arab Sunnis and Arab Shi'ites.

In April 2006, United Nations news service Irin reported on mixed couples forming an association called Union for Peace in Iraq (UPI) that aimed to protect such marriages from sectarian violence. Members were forced to dissolve the association after three mixed couples, including founding members of UPI, were killed.

"We were the only association in Iraq dealing with this. [Now] there are two choices left, stay in Iraq and divorce your partner or flee to a neighbouring country," said Abu Salah, a former member of the association. -- Irin
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/08/2006 11:15 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My family say(s)... that living with him is an offence to God, Isn't it inspirational that all these Muslims know exactly what God wants? Funny that God's 'wishes' reflect their own desires.
Posted by: GK || 11/08/2006 11:33 Comments || Top||

#2  It's also funny that darling daughter obeys her parents after 18 F****ING YEARS of marriage.

To all RB women, what would your response be if you parents told you to divorce your husband (assuming of course it was a good marriage)?
Posted by: AlanC || 11/08/2006 11:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Need you really ask, AlanC? But if the risk were realistic, as I am quite sure it is, we'd have emigrated together to somewhere civilized some time ago.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 12:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Gee - I thought multi-culturalism was the exact opposite of this. My bad...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 11/08/2006 13:11 Comments || Top||

#5  TW, did I have to ask? No. My wife gave me my opinion already ;^)

It is the matter of fact way that it's put that just floors me.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/08/2006 15:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Given the things you post, AlanC, I like the way your lovely wife thinks. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 20:48 Comments || Top||

#7  I wish I could say this surprises me. However, after having been there, nothing surprises me about them, their culture, or their religion.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 11/08/2006 22:14 Comments || Top||


Beware of motorcycles in Baghdad!

By Ali al-Mawsawi
Azzaman, November 4, 2006

Iraqi gunmen, insurgents, terrorists, or whatever you might call them, have recently introduced new tactics to deter their enemies but their victims are mostly ordinary and innocent Iraqis. The gunmen are supposed to be fighting foreign occupiers or what they term their Iraqi ‘lackeys.’ But the fodder of their carnage is mostly innocent Iraqis.

The nearly six million people of Baghdad live under constant terror in the presence or absence of these gunmen. Iraqis are now afraid to touch or even come close to any item outside their homes be it a barrel for garbage collection or the corpse of a human being. Almost everything unattended in Baghdad can be a booby trap.

Car bombs are the weapon of choice but recently the gunmen are resorting to motorcycles as their speed and size makes it easy for them to bypass checkpoints and sneak into cordoned off areas. The use of motorcycles is not limited to attacks against U.S. or government troops. Criminals and thugs are using them to kill, rob, steal and assassinate rivals.

There is no shortage of motorcycles as is the case with almost anything the gunmen need to execute their dirty plans. In the absence of strict border controls, everything can enter Iraq and there more motorcycle shows in Baghdad than anytime before. Motorcyclists do not have to obtain a driving license or a registration as do most drivers in Iraq. And even if the authorities want to impose such restrictions they lack the means to do so.

The gunmen have resorted to motorcycles following government measures to block certain headquarters with concrete slabs. They find it easy to drive through,” said Marwan Ahmad from Adhamiya. Sameer Amer says motorcyclists have been attacking targets in residential areas “but the police always fail to catch them.”

Iraqi police or U.S. troops do not use motorcycles in their operations and the gunmen’s large-scale use of them has given them an edge in fighting, said Amer.

Amer says motorcycles are widely used in breaking into super markets and shops in the area of Amiriya in Baghdad. Motorcycles are even employed widely in the restive district of Doura, one of the violent areas in Baghdad.

Khatab Ahmad said: “Most of the military operations and assassinations taking place in Doura are carried out by gunmen using motorcycles.”

Ahmad Abbas, a police officer, says there has been “a marked surge” in operations using motorcycles as bombs. “They are easy to get and their impact when booby-trapped can be as lethal as that of a car-bomb,” said Abbas.

You can get a motorcycle for about 25,000 dinars (about 17 U.S. dollars), rendering them within reach of many in Iraq. There are not exact figures on the number of motorcycles in Iraq, but, according to Ihsan Abdullah, a motorcycle dealer, there are more motorcycles than cars in the country.

“Motorcycles have dramatically increased in number in the past three years. We have motorcycles of all sorts and origins. We import them from Japan, China, Thailand, Iran and many other countries,” Abdullah said.

He said traffic jams and closure of streets and districts particularly in Baghdad have made the motorcycle one of the most attractive means of transport. “But I am afraid nearly 30 per cent of all the motorcycles in Iraq have been used in terrorist operations,” says Hassoun Bader, another motorcycle dealer.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/08/2006 01:41 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What size gravel can be spread to make roads slippery for motorcycles?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/08/2006 10:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Time to draft Sonny Barger.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2006 11:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Sonny's out of the slammer and living in Arizona.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/08/2006 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  Beware of motorcycles anywhere in muzzie-world.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||

#5  At $17 each I'll take two.
Posted by: Oming Thaviper5105 || 11/08/2006 12:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Motorcycles, why do they hate us?

I could not resist, I never get to do that! 8-)
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/08/2006 22:39 Comments || Top||


Saddam returns to the dock to face charges over Kurdish genocide
Two days after being sentenced to hang for crimes against humanity, the ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was back in court yesterday to face separate charges of genocide against Kurds in the 1980s. Saddam sat with the other six defendants charged in the Operation Anfal crackdown against Iraqi Kurds in the late 1980s.

The prosecution has one month to present its case to the appellate court, and there is a 30-day time limit after the review is completed before the sentence is carried out.
While an appellate court's review means no execution is likely before next year, Saddam could face the hangman within four or five months, the lead prosecutor in his case said. Jaafar al-Moussawi, who duelled with Saddam during 11 months of courtroom confrontations, estimated the Iraqi High Tribunal's nine-judge appellate court would complete its review in about two months. The prosecution has one month to present its case to the appellate court, and there is a 30-day time limit after the review is completed before the sentence is carried out. Unless the court builds a new execution chamber, Saddam will probably be put to death in the fortress-like Abu Ghraib prison, site of the country's only gallows.
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#1  That'll keep him happily occupied while the first death sentence is confirmed by the higher court.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 13:01 Comments || Top||


Iran lauds death sentence for Saddam Hussein
Iran called Tuesday for the death sentence on former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to be carried out, saying he was a criminal who deserved to die. "We hope the fair, correct and legal verdict against this criminal ... is enforced," government spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham told a news conference. "He is a criminal dictator. No doubt about it," Elham said of Saddam.

The spokesman said Iran hoped Saddam would continue to be tried for other alleged crimes against humanity including waging the 1980-88 war against Iran. "We hope no pressures will be made not to carry out this verdict," Elham said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iran called Tuesday for the death sentence on former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to be carried out, saying he was a criminal who deserved to die.

Damn, I hate it when I agree with them.
Posted by: Glitch Joluns1232 || 11/08/2006 15:54 Comments || Top||

#2  That last comment was me. Sorry, on the road with a loaner 'puter.
Posted by: xbalanke || 11/08/2006 15:55 Comments || Top||


Baath threatens attacks if Saddam executed
Iraq’s disbanded Baath party threatened to attack the heavily-protected “Green Zone” in Baghdad if the death sentence is carried out against its leader Saddam Hussein, in an Internet statement posted on Tuesday. “If president Saddam Hussein is executed ... the party will reinforce its siege against the Green Zone,” which houses Iraqi government offices and the US embassy, said the party’s command on its official site. It vowed to “use all possible means to destroy embassies, as well as the headquarters of intelligence and treacherous organisations”.

America and Iran, its ally, have detonated a bomb whose shrapnel will hit all the plotters and their agents in Iraq and outside.
“America and Iran, its ally, have detonated a bomb whose shrapnel will hit all the plotters and their agents in Iraq and outside,” said the party statement, referring to Sunday’s death sentence against the ousted president.

Ousted dictator Saddam Hussein called on all Iraqis to “forgive, reconcile and shake hands” as he appeared in court Tuesday to face genocide charges after being condemned to death in a separate trial. “I call on all Iraqis, Arabs and Kurds, to forgive, reconcile and shake hands,” Saddam said in the court after he questioned the day’s third witness who testified against him in the genocide trial. Saddam brushed aside a Kurdish villager’s account on Tuesday of an alleged massacre, saying there was no proof.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's the problem with devoting all your energy to trying to kill your enemies; when you want to scare people you have nowhere left to go. What are you gonna do, plant bombs? Hahaha.

And where does the insanity about "America and Iran, its ally" come from? We're about two cups of decaf away from having the President turn Tehran into Dresden, The Sequel, and these clowns see a looming alliance? Quite a trick, issuing a statement with your head firmly clamped in one's backside. Those wacky Baathists.
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 11/08/2006 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Baath threatens attacks if Saddam executed

My question is: And how will this be any different than what has gone on for the past 3+ years?
Posted by: anymouse || 11/08/2006 2:02 Comments || Top||

#3  America and Iran, its ally,

Uh-huh.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/08/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#4  America and Iran, its ally,

Heh. Nancy Pelosi - Speak of the House and Snark-of-the-Day from some murderous Baathist cheesebrain. Strange days, my friends. Strange days.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/08/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Bush: Olmert would be wise not to insist on the visit going ahead on time
Posted by: 3dc || 11/08/2006 19:38 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Dems' Wins in U.S. Races Concern Israel
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/08/2006 14:12 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They should be concerned.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 17:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Israel should have begged US Jews to vote Republican instead of %87 Dem.

Posted by: 3dc || 11/08/2006 19:21 Comments || Top||

#3  So why am I supposed to care about Israel's opinion of our elections any more than I care about France's? They should pay a little more attention to their own elections given recent results.
Posted by: Uneth Ebberese9488 || 11/08/2006 20:07 Comments || Top||

#4  The Israeli govt absolutely failed in their operations against Hizb'Allah. The military had a good plan to wipe out Hizb and neutralize Syria. That would disgrace Iran. That failure of fully implimenting and completing the plan also left us hanging. We have few real allies. Islamists realize this and are moving forward to put pressure on any point that seems weak. The Dems and LLL have no clue, or working with our enemies. Israel is worried about the US. Well, we are profoundly worried about Israel and her very survival.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/08/2006 21:36 Comments || Top||

#5  If Israel had defeated Hizbullah in Lebanon with our support the elections would have turned differently -- instead of stopping the campaign midway while inviting UN troops to protect Hizbullah.

The missed opportunities to decisively crush the enemy -- Sadr and Hizbullah in particular -- remind me of Athens' failures.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2006 21:49 Comments || Top||

#6  This could ultimately result in the release of bottled sunshine by the Israelis. Probably sooner than we realize.
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/08/2006 22:43 Comments || Top||

#7  "Dems wins ... concern Israel" > gee whizzz, gotta wonder WHY!? ANSWER: WND.com/LUCIANNE/
FREEREPUBLIC.com articles [paraphrased]> HAMAS, FATAH urge Muslims to ATTACK US TARGETS AROUND WORLD; SYRIA -RESISTANCE AGZ ISRAELI OCCUPATION ON GOLAN HEIGHTS "VERY SOON". AL JAZEERA > DEM VICTORIES MEANS USA + WEST WILL BE DEFEATED.

The WOT > WAR FOR CONTROL OF WORLD + TYPE/KIND OF OWG + FORM/TYPE OF [ULTRA?] NATIONAL-GLOBAL CONSERVATVISM + " " GLOBAL SOCIALISM [ANTI-DEMOCRACY]+ ANTI-AMERICANISM + ANTI-WESTERNISM, etal. ....................................@ is NOT gonna stop = end just becuz some ALTERNATISM = CONSERVATIVISM, VICTORY = DEFEAT/RETREAT, etc. ... and vice versa Waffling Gummermint-happy Dems prevailed in 2006 after 20 years.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/08/2006 23:52 Comments || Top||


That didn't take long!: Hamas urges attacks on U.S. targets
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Hamas' military wing called Wednesday on Muslims around the world to attack American targets following reports that an Israeli tank strike killed 18 people in the Gaza Strip town of Beit Hanoun.

The Hamas-led Palestinian government distanced itself from the call I'll bet you did, saying its fight was with Israel.

Hamas militants have historically directed their suicide bombings and rocket attacks only against Israeli targets.That's because they just haven't had the infrastructure in place.

"America is offering political, financial and logistic cover for the Zionist occupation crimes, and it is responsible for the Beit Hanoun massacre of our terrorists innocent civilians and their willing human shields. Therefore, the people and the nation all over the globe are required to teach the American enemy tough lessons," Hamas' military wing said in a statement sent to The Associated Press.

But Ghazi Hamad, spokesman for the Hamas-led Palestinian government, said the group had no intention of attacking American targets. Misunderstood again I assume, right? I'll go get the forms. They're already pre-filled out. All you have to do is supply the quote, the innocent English translation and naive context you'd like the world to hear, the original Arabic vitriol, forum, speaker, and date. And as you already know, please check the box indicating whether or not you'd like the MSM to ignore it or not.

Hamas' political wing, led by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, tries to distinguish itself from the military wing. But the two entities both report to the group's exiled leadership, based in Syria, and frequently coordinate with each other. Thanks so much. I couln't have figured that out for myself.

Palestinian witnesses and officials said earlier Wednesday that Israeli tank shells had crashed into a residential neighborhood, killing at least 18 people, including eight children, in their sleep. If I know the Israelis I'll bet they had a good reason. Talk to the buttwipe who I'll bet a dollar to a dog turd fired the RPG from the rooftop. And talk to his bosses, too.

Haniyeh said efforts to form a national unity government with moderate President Mahmoud Abbas were suspended because of the attack. Yeah, right. Israeli Defense Minister Amir Peretz ordered the army to halt artillery attacks in Gaza.

But an Israeli government spokesman said Israel will continue its operations in Gaza aimed at halting Palestinian rocket attacks. Ah, some straight facts for a change.

"Our battle is against the occupation on the Palestinian land. We have no interest to transfer the battle," Hamad said, though he called America indirectly responsible for Wednesday's bloodshed because of its support for Israel. Pick one and let us know.

"We urge the Arab nation and the governments of the Arab countries to protest the world's silence and the American bias," he said. The world is silent for a reason. And don't worry, the MSM here is doing a fine job for you.

The U.S., like Israel, considers Hamas a terrorist group. The rest of the planet to follow one of these years if they figure it out in time.
Posted by: Spereper Ebbang8087 || 11/08/2006 05:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Quid pro quo: US will attack Hamas.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/08/2006 8:23 Comments || Top||

#2  US out of Gaza!
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 8:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Okay, this should be the first question asked of Pelosi....How should the US respond to direct threats of war from Hamas?

Wanna bet that here answer would involve talking directly to the terrorists? (aka giving in to extortion)
Posted by: AlanC || 11/08/2006 9:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Okay, this should be the first question asked of Pelosi....How should the US respond to direct threats of war from Hamas?

"We should immediately move to impeach President Bush for tying up in Iraq the forces we'd have used to invade the West Bank..."
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 11/08/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#5  A sensible government would stop any funds going towards it's swarn enemy.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles in Blairistan || 11/08/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#6  The Dhimmicraps will ignore this. Just like they, and we did with Bin Laden's declaration of war.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/08/2006 11:30 Comments || Top||

#7  Let's see what NANCY PEL BLOW SIE say' bout' this
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/08/2006 12:07 Comments || Top||

#8  I say if Hamas attacks us, we should immetdiately bring our troops home from Irag. Right threw Syria.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/08/2006 12:38 Comments || Top||

#9  The DEMs can be just as viscious and vindicative as the REPs. The question is where are they going to point it?
Posted by: TomAnon || 11/08/2006 12:39 Comments || Top||

#10  The DEMs can be just as viscious and vindicative as the REPs. The question is where are they going to point it?

Erem ... at themselves and fellow Americans?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 14:03 Comments || Top||

#11  I feel we should bring home the troops and today is not too soon
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 15:59 Comments || Top||

#12  The scary thing is the Democrats believe terrorism is (in increasing order of derangement):

a) A law enforcement issue.
b) A policy / foreign aid issue (i.e why do they hate us).
c) Our own fault.
d) A Bush sponsored (false flag) conspiracy.
Posted by: DMFD || 11/08/2006 19:31 Comments || Top||

#13  I feel we should bring home the troops and today is not too soon

If you want the republicans to eat all of the blame for any ensuing chaos in Iraq, go right ahead and do that. Much more intelligent would be to let the democrats yell for withdrawing and then let them take responsibility for the bloodshed that follows. It is critical to let the democrats' cut and run policies come home to roost. Pulling the troops right away will not achieve that effect.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 22:43 Comments || Top||

#14  Just for the record... I didn't post #11.

Jeesh - am I going to have to go through each thread?
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 23:13 Comments || Top||

#15  Just pick a nym, even if it's "original anon", lol.
Posted by: .com || 11/08/2006 23:23 Comments || Top||

#16  it's such a big decision! So many possibilities. I ..just..can't...decide. Maybe tomorrow.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 23:32 Comments || Top||


Hamas urges attacks on U.S. targets
The mask slips.
Hamas' military wing called Wednesday on Muslims around the world to attack American targets following reports that an Israeli tank strike killed 18 people in the Gaza Strip.

The threat signaled a possible change in tactics by Hamas militants, who have historically directed their suicide bombings and rocket attacks only against Israeli targets.

"America is offering political, financial and logistic cover for the Zionist occupation crimes, and it is responsible for the Beit Hanoun massacre. Therefore, the people and the nation all over the globe are required to teach the American enemy tough lessons," Hamas said in a statement sent to The Associated Press.

Hamas' political wing, led by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, tries to distinguish itself from the military wing. But the two entities both report to the group's exiled leadership, based in Syria, and frequently coordinate with each other.

The U.S., like Israel, considers Hamas a terrorist group.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/08/2006 05:08 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think Israel needs a new shipment of tank shells and cluster bombs...free
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 7:04 Comments || Top||

#2  After seeing the results of yesterday's election, the enemy senses the American people's weakness, our lack of resolve. It's starting.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/08/2006 8:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Yup.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 10:09 Comments || Top||


Peres: Even Russia fears nuclear arms in Chechnya
In a meeting with Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Draskovic, Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres said that “the problems of Israel have become the problems of the entire world, most of all the nuclear arms race and its dissemination throughout extremist countries who support terror, global terror and religious fundamentalism.”

In order for the international community to act effectively, it must be united and act decisively and harshly against those rogue states and terror groups who endanger peace, and Iran first and foremost.
Peres added that even Russia understands that the time will come when nuclear arms will get to Chechnya and therefore there is a need to act today, and not to wait a number of years until there is no chance to go back. He said that in order for the international community to act effectively, it must be united and act decisively and harshly against those rogue states and terror groups who endanger peace, and Iran first and foremost.

On the Palestinian issue, Peres said that Israel was ready, and is ready today, to go towards the Palestinian people and to conduct significant and painful steps to advance peace, but there is no way of signing a peace agreement when the street, the leadership, and the army are divided and there is no central factor who takes responsibility and controls the situation. Hamas prefers shooting rockets at the Negev without reason instead of caring for itself, Peres said.

The Serbian Foreign Minister praised the meeting and said that Serbia is very interested in strengthening its relations with Israel. He added that he had fulfilled a dream as the first Serbian Foreign Minister to arrive in Israel since their independence. The Serbian minister also met with Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and signed two agreements regarding mutual consultations between the Foreign Ministries of both countries.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If Russia is so worried, they'd damn well better start doing something about Iran.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  I suddenly had an idea:

I'm thinking Iran is to Russia as Chechnya is to the US. If Iran needs nuclear weapons energy so bad, well then so does Chechnya . . . .
Posted by: gorb || 11/08/2006 1:31 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm thinking Iran is to Russia as Chechnya is to the US. If Iran needs nuclear weapons energy so bad, well then so does Chechnya . . . .


I agree. We need to stop being the nice guys, and practice a little tit-for-tat. The Russians need a BIG dose of their own medicine..

Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/08/2006 9:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Russia is going out of existence anyway, they really don't care what happens to the rest of us.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 11/08/2006 10:47 Comments || Top||

#5  The parts of Russia that the Chinese do no colonize will be majority muslim by 2050.
Posted by: ed || 11/08/2006 11:12 Comments || Top||

#6  The Russians, like the French and the Germans, will go out of existence if they don't start making more babies. I wonder if they all just got so badly beaten up in the two world wars of last century that they won't be able to recover?
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 11/08/2006 16:42 Comments || Top||


Abbas: I won't resign 'unless I die'
What's the over/under on that?
Acknowledging that he has failed to enforce law and order and improve the economy in the Palestinian territories, Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas nevertheless said on Tuesday that he has no intention to resign. "Many things have not been achieved since I was elected two years ago, especially in the field of economic prosperity and security, but I'm not thinking of resigning and I won't leave the job unless I die," Abbas was quoted by the London-based Asharq Al-Awsat newspaper as saying. "I will remain president until the end of my term."
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hamas is proabably willing to oblige.
Posted by: Oldspook || 11/08/2006 0:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Abbas, we don't care.

You're already totally dead inside.
Posted by: Leroidavid || 11/08/2006 2:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Abbas: I won't resign 'unless I die'

IOW, the paleo death wish.
methinks Abbas sealed his fate with that one.
Posted by: RD || 11/08/2006 11:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Your proposal is acceptable.
Posted by: Thavique Uneagum5181 || 11/08/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#5  You know, of all places in the world to lay down the gauntlet "Over my dead body...", the Middle East seems to be the least appropriate.
Posted by: WTF || 11/08/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||


Palestinian leaders fail to agree on joint rule
The Palestinian president and prime minister, who head rival movements, failed again Monday to agree on a joint government that might lead to lifting Western sanctions that have bankrupted their administration, but they planned to keep trying. President Mahmoud Abbas, a moderate, and Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas met in Gaza for more than two hours, but officials said the talks ended with no accord on a national unity government made up of independent experts.

Both sides said talks would continue today; they would not say what issues remain open. Mustafa Barghouti, an independent politician playing a key role in the talks, called the meeting "fruitful." He said, "There was agreement on some issues, but some issues still need to be discussed."
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Abu Mazen: "a moderate" by Paleo standards....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/08/2006 7:43 Comments || Top||

#2  This government thingie is a whole lot harder than jew-killing, ain't it? Especially without all those Western dollars.
Posted by: SteveS || 11/08/2006 14:15 Comments || Top||

#3  sounds like our own current situation.
Posted by: anon || 11/08/2006 15:03 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Thai PM Proposes Muslim Sudetenland Advocates Islamic Law for Far South
Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont, in another significant gesture to Muslim insurgents in the far south, said Tuesday that Islamic law should be given a bigger role there. He also said the only condition his post-coup government would impose for talks with the insurgents was that there should be no discussion of separation.

Mr. Surayud told the Foreign Correspondents Club of Thailand that Shariah, or Islamic law, should be allowed in the area, where 80 percent of the people are ethnic Malay and Muslim. “They should have the Islamic law in practice, Shariah, because the way they are dealing with the normal practice in their society, in their life, is completely different from us,” said the former army chief of predominantly Buddhist Thailand. “So that’s the way we are trying to say, that you can live with your own group, own morals,” he said in reply to a question without giving other details.

Last week Mr. Surayud went south to make a public apology for past hard-line government policies blamed for stoking unrest in a region that was an Islamic sultanate until it was annexed by Thailand a century ago. His apology was followed by the dropping of charges against 92 Muslims involved in a 2004 protest after which 78 protesters were crushed or suffocated in army custody.

The gestures and the statements on Tuesday were a striking contrast with those of his predecessor, Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a coup by the military on Sept. 19 and who opposed any form of talks with insurgents.

Mr. Surayud said he wanted to “establish a constructive dialogue with all concerned parties” as long as they did not demand independence. “No separation: that’s the only condition that we have,” he said. “In the Thai Constitution, we cannot separate our land any more. This is the rule of this land, that we are not going to be divided any more.”

In another show of good will in hopes of ending nearly three years of violence in which more than 1,700 people have been killed, the government agreed Tuesday to pay families of the Muslims who died in army custody, their lawyer said.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2006 01:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This asshole has got to go. Thailand is going to die the death of a thousand cuts. Sharia law is just the camel's nose.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 1:26 Comments || Top||

#2  That is what the king wants.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/08/2006 1:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Bye-bye Thailand. Following in the footsteps of France.

Who is next?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/08/2006 1:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Wrong move. Muslims never give up shariah and when they get it in a federal state - like India - federal power takes a secondary role. Malays will take advantage of this indulgence.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/08/2006 2:30 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
UN peacekeepers: IDF to begin pulling out of Ghajar
IDF troops were to begin withdrawing Tuesday from the Lebanese part of the divided border village of Ghajar, the UN peacekeeping force said. When completed, the IDF withdrawal from Ghajar would put Israeli forces behind the UN-demarcated Blue Line bordering the two countries for the first time since the summer war between the Jewish state and Hizbullah guerrillas. The army withdrew from other areas they occupied during the war in early October but remained in Ghajar, a village that is half in Israel and half in Lebanon.

Maj.-Gen. Alain Pellegrini made the announcement after a meeting with Lebanese and Israeli officers at the UN peacekeeping headquarters in the southern Lebanese town of Naqoura. "It was agreed that the Israeli Defense Forces will withdraw their forces from most of the surrounding area of Ghajar village today," the UN Interim Force in Lebanon, called UNIFIL, said in a statement.

The IDF will continue to be present in the northern part of the Lebanese section of the village for now, but Pellegrini said he hoped "we will reach an agreement very soon for full IDF withdrawal from Lebanese territory ... including the northern part of Ghajar village," the statement said.

It was not immediately clear whether the withdrawal was under way on the ground, and there was no immediate comment from the army. The UN statement said UNIFIL would carry out "intensive patrolling" and set up temporary checkpoints in the area to confirm that the Israeli forces were no longer present there.

Israel took Ghajar when it captured the Golan Heights from Syria in 1967. The village was divided between an Israeli-controlled part and a Lebanese section by the United Nations following the withdrawal of Israeli forces from south Lebanon in 2000.
Posted by: Fred || 11/08/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And Hezbeelzebub will be moving right in, with UN knowledge and permission.
Posted by: Jackal || 11/08/2006 10:19 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
Jihadi Forums Tune into History Channel for Counter-Terrorism Intelligence
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/08/2006 07:49 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They're getting top secret info from "Mail Call"?

Look, I watch a lot of that channel. (Hey, I got a little squeaker, and there's not a lot of interesting content on at 2 am I can watch during his feedings....so sue me.) I really doubt they are getting any other information from them besides the US military has some pretty damn cool toys, and it can kick some serious ass.

Good thing they didn't splurge for the premium package and get the Military Channel! ;)

Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 11/08/2006 23:48 Comments || Top||


Jihad in cyperspace
Posted by: ryuge || 11/08/2006 01:56 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Liberal intellectuals on college campuses - the majority of the faculty in almost all universities - dismiss the now irrefutable evidence of the link between Islamism, radicalization and terrorism.

Scary shit.
Posted by: Icerigger || 11/08/2006 6:54 Comments || Top||

#2  The majority of arts and social science faculty in almost all universities support the jihadis.
Posted by: Excalibur || 11/08/2006 9:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Things are indeed scary. The takeover by the Dhimmis of the House and possibly the Senate are going to set back the WOT. I have no confidence in the Dhimmis to do anything about the WOT. The WOT will be fought on our soil soon.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 10:24 Comments || Top||

#4  That might be the only way we win it.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/08/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Nothing like getting shot at to clear any fuzzy-headedness.
Posted by: JohnQC || 11/08/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||

#6  One more reason to ban Islam in all Western countries.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/08/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#7  The majority of arts and social science faculty in almost all universities support the jihadis.

Yes. And they will go to their deaths completely bewildered about why their darling muzzies are killing them. Even as their final seconds tick by, they'll be denying that their beliefs and perfidy resulted in their deaths.

Karma is a bitch.

We are on the road to perdition.
Posted by: Mick Dundee || 11/08/2006 22:53 Comments || Top||



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