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Posted by Oldspook 2006-11-08 00:52|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And start learning Spanish. Your politicians will be speaking it after Pelosi and the left give amnesty and citizenship to 15-20 million illegal Mexicans so they can get the votes.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-11-08 01:21|| 2006-11-08 01:21|| Front Page Top

#2 I look at it a bit more pragmatically. If they screw up, it guarantees a landslide in 2008 including the presidency...and they only have a 2 year window. If per chance they actually do something right, the country wins.

As a very long time conservative, we have no one to blame but ourselves. Those we elected lost focus and forgot "who, and what brung 'em to the dance."

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2006-11-08 01:59|| 2006-11-08 01:59|| Front Page Top

#3 My computer crashed when I was finishing my rant so this is going to be much shorter and darker. Sorry.

This is 9/13 not 9/10. The copperheads know the difference between 9/10 and 9/12, when we went to war against the Taliban and Iraqi Baathists.

Unfortunately the Republicans thought they could wage a World War without putting the whole country on war footing, and without executing traitors. And leaving Iran, Syria, Pakistan, as well as Saudi Arabia free to wage war against the West.

Tomorrow Kerry and his friends will enact their goals, to enable Islamofascists in the Middle East and destroy America. So 9/14 will be when the country reels from Islamofascist WMD attacks.

God help us all. The ultimate result will be massive WMD campaigns with tens of millions of dead. I despair for Western civilization, and for mankind.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-08 02:00|| 2006-11-08 02:00|| Front Page Top

#4 we have no one to blame but ourselves. Those we elected lost focus and forgot "who, and what brung 'em to the dance."

Lets get that tatooed across Haster's fat forehead and engraved on Bush's bathroom shaving mirror.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-11-08 02:05|| 2006-11-08 02:05|| Front Page Top

#5 I never thought we'd vote to surender. Surely most Americans have no idea that's just what happened, but he jihadis know the score. Gird yoursleves for what's to come.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-11-08 02:06|| 2006-11-08 02:06|| Front Page Top

#6 9/14 won't claim only 3,000 lives. It breaks my heart.

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-08 02:08|| 2006-11-08 02:08|| Front Page Top

#7 Spook...I agree with your comments on another thread. Conservative leadership is just piss-poor.

However, I honestly don't think the donks are capable of governing. Their entire platform from the Kool-aid drinking moonbats to kerrypelosikennedymurthareid is "I hate Bush". Now it's time to produce. I hope that as the opposition party they spend this time wisely to consolidate the base, change leadership, kick out the corrupt and hold the donks accountable for what will likely be a litany of errors.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2006-11-08 02:10|| 2006-11-08 02:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Dang...I meant to say "I hope that as the opposition party WE spend this time wisely to consolidate the base, change leadership, kick out the corrupt and hold the donks accountable for what will likely be a litany of errors.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2006-11-08 02:12|| 2006-11-08 02:12|| Front Page Top

#9 Relax just a little bit everyone. I know it's bitter - and I know it's dangerous - but it's not the end of the world, of America, nor western civilization.

Yes, we very likely will get hit again - we're overdue, in fact - but this will go a long way towards showing just what traitors many of the Dhimmi's are.

The jihadi's cannot destroy the heart of America and they cannot destroy the soul of this nation. Take heart! Look to the future. Stand up against the wave to come and tell folks like Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and all the others that they cannot and will not make us bend to their will.

Take heart and take wisdom from the words of Ronald Reagan and look towards making America that "light on a hill". Without the will of the people the Democrats have no power, the government has no power, the jihadi's have no power.

No one can break the soul of America. It is too much a part of what and who we are.

Take heart, take wisdom, and take courage. There are still lots of good people in this country and we are still strong and shall remain strong no matter what is done to us or inflicted upon us.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2006-11-08 02:19|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2006-11-08 02:19|| Front Page Top

#10 Pulling out of Iraq is not an option. I can't see less than 95% of ANY Congress being prepared to leave the Persian Gulf in the hands of al-Qaeda in Iraq or the al-Sadrites, cum Iran.

War strategy needs revamping - even the President admitted that - and it will be. I am not as pessimistic as most, re. impeachment scuffles and lack of consensus on Iraq. Americans have little use for divisiveness for its own sake.

Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-08 02:21|| 2006-11-08 02:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Sneaze and FOTS...I agree. The American voter has spoken. No sour grapes, crying, threatening rebellion or blood in the streets like the idioic donks of 2000-2004.

The donks won...largely because of poor conservative leadership.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2006-11-08 02:37|| 2006-11-08 02:37|| Front Page Top

#12 DO NOT underestimate the degree of viscerable hatred that the LLL holds for this (now moribund0 administration. Conservative Dems may have held the day, but the moonbats hold the reigns. We are about to witness our version of the Night of the Longknives. I've no idea if they'll succeed but it is coming. BANK ON IT.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-11-08 02:41|| 2006-11-08 02:41|| Front Page Top

#13 On the bright side, a lot of their pickups are in "Red" areas, as demonstrated by the ballot initiative votes in those areas. Two years of Pelosi, gun grabs, taxes, and liberal abortion laws will make those easy to retake - especially when we can actually get the candidate's name on the ballot (Foley, DeLay's seats). There are plenty of reasons to be angry at the Repub lparty since its leaderhsip failed: no real fence, weasling on Mexico, dicking around with judges, half-steps in Iraq. But once Red State voters realize they've just slashed their own throats in their efforts to punish the Republican leadership for trashign the base, they'll whack these new liberals with a vengance.

Other than that, this was simply a historically normal 6th year - the worst for Republicans since 86, another 6th year.

One things is for sure - if Hastert is Minority Leader for the next Congress, they can kiss 2008 goodbye.

More of the same is not going to cut it.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 02:44|| 2006-11-08 02:44|| Front Page Top

#14 To be a bit more concise:

The D candidate won, and so did the Anti-Gay Marriage initiative.

Whats that tell ya?

Voting the issues, peopel are conservative.

So voting thier emotions and party, they wanted to give the Republicans a beating for letting them down by failing to lead, failing to act like hte majority they were, failing to govern, and failing to hold to the principles that got them elected originally:

HERE is the report card that cost the Republicans the election, especially in Red areas where Dem candidates got in.

Smaller government: F
-- Prescrioption Program. DHS. Etc. Miserable failure.

Stronger Defense: F
-- Failed due to a complete lack of border security, and the inability tio articualte and publicise the WIN we have in the War in Iraq. The only place we lost it is in the press - and unfortunately that makes it look like the Dems will lose it for us int he real world.

Control Spending: F
-- were out of control with earmarks, porlk and all kinds of crap. Miserable, and hardly distinguishable from the Dems back in 92.

Non-Activist Judges: D
-- Failed to approve them in a timely manner (now opportunity completely gone - thanks Spector you asshole). Only saving grace here was Alito and Roberts.

Low Taxes : D
-- didnt make the cuts permanent while they had the chance, didnt fix capital gains or death tax.

Corruption: F
-- Hastert packed the ethics comittee whenit looked like they were going to smack around some of his cronies. Turns out that dishonesty and wheeling-dealing is what set the image of Republicans everywhere, even ones who hadn't been in Congress and were running for an open seat.

Now looking back, its damned obvious how they failed.

The question now is: Will the Republicans wake up and get Coburn in the Senate tapped for his leadership of reform, and Shadegg for his principled leadership in the house? Or are we simply going to see more of the same stupid shit that got them to this point?

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 02:56|| 2006-11-08 02:56|| Front Page Top

#15 OS: I'll start:

Welcome to the 9/10 world.

God help us when "9/11" arrives a second time.

a given: 90% of the Dems fall into 3 categories: delusional flakes, pork swilling pols, or out and out traitors. The D combo is not anything new but still remains nonetheless a dangerous threat to OUR Republic.

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Given the fact that we have now lost at least the House of Reps, lets begin to take inventory of the last 6 years.

Did the Trunks make a serious effort to conduct themselves in the last 6 years as if OUR Republic was both threatened by dangerous enemies from within and without our Nation's borders?

In the post 9/11 years the Repubs didn't even lay as much as a glove on the traitorous crew called DemoCraps, or inspire the Base by even taking the time for a few symbolic demonstrations at our Nation's borders.

While the Trunks had Power, command and control of the House of Reps, the Senate and the Presidency Did the Trunk leadership even try to run counter-ops on our internal enemies? Did the Repubs use their power wisely and finally trap, get the goods on America's perminate enemy class; Ted Kennendy, Turban Durban, Murtha, Boxer, Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, etc etc etc? ..so we might finally be rid of, once and for all, the likes of these traitorous Bastards?

Media:
This current war in Iraq even surpasses Vietnam for Tidal Waves of Poison and Lies produced by the foreign and domestic media.

I don't think our President, his able political staff or even our Pentagon were able to counter effectively all the Liars and Lies who willfully sought and succeeded to erode the the National will to win and the administration's policies by relentlessly attacking it every day for the last 6 years.

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IMO, Rantburgers with their excellent resources did a more effective job of Fisking and staying focused on our enemies than the entire Republican establishment did for the last 6 years.

next witness...

Posted by RD 2006-11-08 03:02|| 2006-11-08 03:02|| Front Page Top

#16 Will all due respect, OldSpook, I think a more fundamental question is: does the West have the luxury of surviving under Democrats?

Posted by Kalle (kafir forever) 2006-11-08 03:08|| 2006-11-08 03:08|| Front Page Top

#17 Thats one of the things that continues to anger me about President Bush. He doesnt fight back. Dammit man grow a pair and take some swings on your opponents. Defend those ideals and principles - and the people that got you there! He is is father's son iin this repect. After his response to 9.11 I was giving him credit for more than he had. I was wrong - unless he manages to show up now against a Dem congress full of loonies.

What good is the Bully Pulpit if you get up there and mumble?

What good is the majority if jsut about all you use it to do is parcle out the pork via earmarked omnibus highway bills?

what good is it to have a majority in the senate whne you cannot even get your judges a straight up and down vote? (Shame Santorum is gone and that asshole Spector is still here).

Why the hell can you not find a good senate candidate opposite a vulnerable Dem in Florida? Katherine Harris? KATHERINE HARRIS?? WTF kind of crap is that? Thats a seat that could have saved the Senate and they were so damn lazy they didnt get out there and put any number of solid candidates up for it, leaving it to fall.

The questions go on and on. I refrained from askign them earlier becasue I thought the powers that be inth Trunk leadership might actually have a clue. But after looking at this mess, one thats threating the ultimate historical survivalk of the naiton - and of the only antidote for Ismaic Fascism in the Middle east, FREEDOM - I'm thinking they are damned fools to do the things they did.

Quiet no longer - me an a lot of others inside the party are going to go kicking people in the nuts (figuratively) unless they start answering questions - and DOING the right things, not just talking the game.

Gipper, where are ya? We need another one like you.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 03:23|| 2006-11-08 03:23|| Front Page Top

#18 "We shall have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who work your wicked will. You do your worst, and we will do our best....We do not expect to hit without being hit back, and we intend with every week that passes to hit harder. Prepare yourselves then, my friends and comrades, for this renewal of your exertions. We shall never turn from our purpose, however sombre the road, however grievous the cost, because we know that out of this time of trial and tribulation will be born a new freedom and glory for all mankind." - Winston Churchill, 1941

"Hero and statesman for the ages"

I actually met Sir Winston when I was 6 years old. He came to our school at Lakenheath and shook my hand, along with many others. He remarked on my red hair, and mentioned that his had been the same color when he was younger.

When I get discouraged about this current struggle, I think of what it was like for him after Dunkerque. The Battle of France had been a debacle of unimagined proportions. Pessimism, shock, and dread were endemic. Churchill's response is legendary: He roared defiance and rallied his people against the Nazis.

Compared to that, or to the fall of Singapore, our troubles are minor. We still have many untapped reserves of strength. We don't have a leader in the mold of Churchill or FDR but there could well be one waiting in the wings.

The media-industrial complex is not invincible. Little Green Footballs, with a budget that would not pay an alphabet network's wine bill, brought down the mighty Dan Rather and humbled the global propaganda engine of Reuters.

This is a setback but it is not a disaster. The Democrats do not have a large enough majority in the Senate to convict Bush even if their thin House majority can impeach him. He will finish his term.

I do not believe they will have the votes to shut down the Iraq war. Enough loyalist Democrats will vote with the Republicans to keep that from happening. This thwarts the left's cherished dream of repeating their 1975 triumph, when they cut off aid to South Vietnam and gave that country to the communists.
We can fight it out against a hostile Congress.
On the positive side, the GOP has received a resounding rebuke for its immigration non-policy. This could well lead to some much-needed change in the party's leadership and general orientation in 2008.

History is on our side and every passing day will see the enemy weakened. When we have the proper leadership, we will consign the forces of barbarism and their sycophants to the dustbin of history, we will smash them flat.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2006-11-08 03:46|| 2006-11-08 03:46|| Front Page Top

#19 Heh, AC - that rocks, bro. And rings true. Thx. ;-)

Posted by .com 2006-11-08 03:52|| 2006-11-08 03:52|| Front Page Top

#20 I see little to nothing to indic that the RINO CINO BlameLess Demoleft is going = willing to change their spots back towards LEFTISM-ALTERNATISM. While the Dems as a Party may be in charge for the next two years, as per DIALECTICISM = WAFFLE-ISM = UNIVERSAL BLAME-LESSNES FOREVER many of their number may prove to be individ unwilling to be held responsible for any US defeat in the WOT - as said or implied times before, while GOP pols may lose elex, the reality remains is that mainstream America = majority of Amerians favor/prefer the GOP-RIGHT-CONSERVATIVE AGENDA, NOT THE ALTERNATIST OR LEFIST-SOCIALIST ONE. IOW, TO KEEP THEIR JOBS OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS THE DEMS HAVE TO DE FACTO PROVE THEY DE FACTO SUPPOR THE GOP-RIGHTIST-CONSERVATIVE, ETAL RIGHTIST AGENDAS, TO INCLUDE DUBYA'S POLICY OF PRE-EMPTION i.e. FIGHTING AMER'S ENEMIES "OVER THERE" NOT AT HOME, PC = NATIONAL POTEMKINISM NOTWITHTANDING. POL
"CENTRISM" IS NOT GOING TO BE ENUFF. Traditional DemoLefty supporters from ANYSTREET, ANYTOWN,
ANYSTATE USA whom believe that the "good old days" are back have got another thing coming.
The WOT > besides being a WAR FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD etal., is also a WAR FOR FORM/TYPE/KIND OF NATIONAL-GLOBAL [ULTRA]CONSERVATIVISM + CONSERVATIVE OWG, EVEN FOR ALLEGED ALTERNATISM-CENTRIC LEFTIES + FASCIST-FOR-COMMUNISM CLINTONIANS. As HILLARY herself said [paraphrased], the Govt will give it to you before it is taken away in the name of the common /public good - remember, the Cold War ultra-Left Commie Bloc liked to talk about women's rights = "choice", + libertarianism, BUT IN REALITY DENIED THE SAME. At best, the Ultra-Left Commie Bloc govts. ignored or gave "lip service". minimum of Minimum suppor to Alternatist agendas, at worst were silently or publicly suppressed = Gulagged. EVENTUALLY THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT - I still says/hold that the Left is looking for a PC, feel-good, warm-and-fuzzy gradualist way to become a full-fledged SOCIALIST/GOVERNMENTIST + CENTRALIST + TOTALITARIAN PARTY AND MOVEMENT. The contempor Left no longer stands for social improvement, fairness or justice, but GOVT + HYPER-GOVT, POLITIX + HYPER-POLISCHTICK, PC + MORE PC, come asteroid or Jesus Christ or Super-Nova, etc.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-11-08 03:53|| 2006-11-08 03:53|| Front Page Top

#21 Many thanks .com.
I like to believe that I am at my best when I think of Churchill. He had his flaws; he was ruthless, arrogant, manipulative, and stubborn at times; but there has never been a better example of the right man at the right time.

He saved the world in his own time, and his example could save it again in ours.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2006-11-08 04:11|| 2006-11-08 04:11|| Front Page Top

#22 I think, in retrospect, that the greatest driver of this election defeat will turn out to have been the bursting of the housing bubble, just as the greatest driver of GWB's victory in 2000 was the bursting of the dot com bubble. Iraq was probably a contributing factor, thanks to the MSM's relentlessly negative focus. Immigration is kind of iffy - I don't really know if it trumps pocketbook issues and the relentlessly negative drumbeat of news. Interestingly enough - some of the GOP'ers ejected were also among the most vehement proponents and opponents of amnesty. So on balance, I think immigration was a wash.

In the next few years, I think we can expect to see two things - impeachment proceedings against GWB and more congressional hearings over Iraq. The Democrats will probably try to imprison some Bush administration officials. We should also expect to see more spending and tax hike proposals from the Democrats. If GWB is truly serious about being a conservative, I expect him to have his veto pen out. If not, it'll become clear that he is a national security and social conservative, but only partly an economic conservative.

Is this a nightmare? No. The republic will endure. With any luck, we'll get through the next couple of years without a major terrorist strike at home, no major increases in spending or taxes, and no impeachment proceedings. If fortune deserts us, then there's always the next election. That's the miracle of our political system.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-11-08 04:43|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2006-11-08 04:43|| Front Page Top

#23 The Republicans tried to act just like Demos on domestic issues. I have NO sympathy for the Repubs only for our military.

I imagine the first "constructive" act on the Democrats list will be to start impeachment proceedings against Bush. That is the wet dream of a couple of the socialists here at work.

I predict 2 years of infighting, no progress either domestically or international and because of this the war against Islam will ebb.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-11-08 04:51|| 2006-11-08 04:51|| Front Page Top

#24 B: I predict 2 years of infighting, no progress either domestically or international and because of this the war against Islam will ebb.

I don't think a withdrawal from Iraq is a given. Bush is no Jerry Ford, who rolled over for the Dems over Vietnam. And the Democratic majority will be nowhere near what it was during the Vietnam War. My feeling is that the Dems will overreach initially, but bow to the reality that their reach exceeds their grasp - slender majorities cobbled together with the help of conservative Democratic candidates do not make for successful ultra-liberal legislation.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-11-08 05:02|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2006-11-08 05:02|| Front Page Top

#25 Well, I guess I called it wrong. The silver lining that is see is that the Dems will have to take responsibility for governing, instead of acting like spoiled adolescents. Sadly, they will just continue to act like the Palestinians and blame the ~~Jews~~ neo-conservative cabal for everything that goes wrong from the weather to the terror - because their game is not action but blame. But just like the Palestinians, at some point the people get a clue that maybe they want more action from their leaders than just the hollow rhetoric of blaming a group of others. In the mean time, they will ratchet up the hate against conservatives, white males, Jews, Christians (especially evangelical)and anything and everything that once made us strong. Let's hope our population will figure it out sooner rather than later.

But I'm resigned to it. This is like 1938. They control the media and many of the institutions and our attempts to stop the danger is now on hold.

The way I feel about it is this. I've done my part, and will continue to do my part to fight the war against Islamofacism. If the democrats are weak for four years and continue to allow the Keith Ellisons and Georgetown Universities types to accept the Saudi cash and mosques etc - then it will be the now 17-30 year olds who will have to fight this war and they will probably have to fight it on our own turf. The war won't go away. The Islamic fanatics are united in their purpose. They are funded, organized and willing to die for their cause. We are a nation divided and a house divided can not stand. Like Chamberlain, we missed the opportunity to stop the the nightmare before it got out of control. What we don't fight today will be left for that age group to deal with for a very long and difficult time. Yes, it will touch all of us. But this election was a mandate from a soft and spoiled generation to pass on the trials of today to youth of tomorrow.

Posted by anon 2006-11-08 05:03|| 2006-11-08 05:03|| Front Page Top

#26 As did we all, anon. I'm not sure many among those who voted for them will notice whether they accomplish anything, or not. "Spoiled adolescents" describes both sides of that equation rather well, IMO.

Posted by .com 2006-11-08 05:24|| 2006-11-08 05:24|| Front Page Top

#27 AC wrote: We don't have a leader in the mold of Churchill or FDR but there could well be one waiting in the wings.

Yes we do.

We just don't know who that person is yet.

In times of adversity it is up to good people, people with belief in the concept of right and wrong, good and evil, darkness and light, to step forward and act on that belief.

As Edmund Burke said "In order for evil to triumph good men have to do nothing." (paraphrased, certainly)

Good men (and women) often have to be stubborn, obstinate, arrogant, and almost pathologically sure of themselves and the rightness of their beliefs and causes. But all too often those people are unsure of themselves and need to be coaxed out of hiding.

It is up to us to find those people, and if necessary, force them to accept their destiny.

I know of one such person - and it's time he stepped out of the shadows and started acting. Do you know somebody like this?

Probably.

"Light the fires and kick the tires!"

It's time for action (and past time), not crying in our beer.

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2006-11-08 05:34|| www.fire-on-the-suns.com]">[www.fire-on-the-suns.com] 2006-11-08 05:34|| Front Page Top

#28 Let's be honest. The absolute horrible handling of Katrina set the stage for it all to crumble.

Posted by 3dc 2006-11-08 05:51|| 2006-11-08 05:51|| Front Page Top

#29 a given: 90% of the Dems fall into 3 categories: delusional flakes, pork swilling pols, or out and out traitors.

That should be "and/or", not just "or". Remember Kerry and Kennedy -- they're delusional flakes, pork swillers, *AND* traitors.

Let's be honest. The absolute horrible handling of Katrina set the stage for it all to crumble.

BS. The press *lies* about Katrina "set the stage". The conditions and response in Mississippi and Alabama were ignored while the failures of the local and state officials in Louisiana were papered over. The speed of the Coast Guard and DHS response was ignored and the bureaucratic idiocy overplayed and blamed on *everything but* bureaucracy.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-11-08 07:13|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-11-08 07:13|| Front Page Top

#30 We don't have a leader in the mold of Churchill or FDR but there could well be one waiting in the wings.

Yes we do.

We just don't know who that person is yet.

My nominee is a guy who impressed me very little at the start of the election but did so more and more as it went on. Rick Santorum gets it. He should get into the administration and run for Governor of PA in '10. Then for Pres in '12 or '16.

And there's more Reagan trunks out there ready to grow. The leadership had gotten too entrenched to be displaced and too comfortable to change things. Let's make some lemonade.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-08 07:40|| 2006-11-08 07:40|| Front Page Top

#31 I put the republican loss down to a few things.

First and foremost is the utter lack of discipline by the republican congressional leadership. They were totally unwilling to enforce controls over their people in any way. This made them as obnoxious as parents who let their children run wild in restaurants.

No legislative discipline, no personal discipline, no internal punishments when they were involved in wrongdoing--before it got out of hand. For every member of the House whose seat was lost, there was an equal and opposite scandal.

The "kids in a candy store" approach to pork and fiscal discipline, the "we can be as perverted as we want, we're in power" morality, and the "we have to back them up, they're on our side" attitude.

It all played into a universal constant for groups: People judge you not by your best and brightest, but by your worst and stupidest; and unless you punish your own miscreants, your group will be punished as a whole for their misdeeds.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-11-08 07:58|| 2006-11-08 07:58|| Front Page Top

#32 Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhrrrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!

Posted by Darrell 2006-11-08 08:46|| 2006-11-08 08:46|| Front Page Top

#33 The kids who were in elementary school and junior high on 9/11/01 will be voting in the next election in droves. The school was in full lockdown that day. They know what the key issue is, and they think the Democrats are dangerously, blindly reactionary. Oh, and lots of them are currently in delayed entry or ROTC programs, headed for the military as soon as they get that college degree.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-08 08:59|| 2006-11-08 08:59|| Front Page Top

#34 I'm sorry. That second sentence should read, The trailing daughters' elementary school was in full lockdown...

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-08 09:03|| 2006-11-08 09:03|| Front Page Top

#35 Via DailyPundit:

McCain is on Fox right now saying that the reason the GOP got waxed was pork/earmarks and a "failure to reform immigration." If he means what I think he does - and he's on record as backing Bush's amnesty plans - then he's saying that the GOP lost because they didn't throw open the borders and give amnesty to 12 million illegals.

But

Via Lucianne:

McCain is on Fox right now saying that the reason the GOP got waxed was pork/earmarks and a "failure to reform immigration." If he means what I think he does - and he's on record as backing Bush's amnesty plans - then he's saying that the GOP lost because they didn't throw open the borders and give amnesty to 12 million illegals.

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Trunks are happy in the minority and there they'll stay.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-11-08 09:11|| 2006-11-08 09:11|| Front Page Top

#36 http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/07/election.measures.ap/index.html

English only-yes
Ban on abortions except for mother's life-No
Parental notification-No
Same-sex marriage-No
Legalize marijuana-No
Using race and gender for college entrance-No
Increase minimum wage-Yes

The Republicans didn't lose because they weren't conservative enough. Moderation should be the word in their new homework. It is what Americans are when they are their best.

I dread what Dems will do to foreign policy, immigration and security. OTOH, I wish them well and hope that what they do domestically is good for America.

Posted by Jules 2006-11-08 09:17|| 2006-11-08 09:17|| Front Page Top

#37 My greatest fear is they will de-fund the Iraq war. Remember they did this twice before - not just Vietnam but also Nicaragua. They have never been held to account for their betrayal of Southeast Asia, where millions were consigned to death. The country has suffered for that betrayal for 30 years now, and the Jihadis still use that event as their predictor of American behavior in war.

Posted by fmr mil contractor 2006-11-08 09:27|| 2006-11-08 09:27|| Front Page Top

#38 The only hope we have with respect to defunding the war is that they don't have the numbers to override a veto. If W will just grow a pair and veto any budget that doesn't include sufficient funds for operations, we can keep going.

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2006-11-08 09:52|| 2006-11-08 09:52|| Front Page Top

#39 I have opined during the recent races that most (if not all) of the freshman Dems ran a mostly conservative campaign. They dont seem to be the Kool Aid drinking type (but I could be wrong). Also they have the thinnest of majorities, just like the Republicans did for the past six years. If they want to accomplish anything it will have to be with some Republican support. Also if they pass something really stupid, Bush will veto it or the Senate will let it die. Yes the fever swamp will rant about how we need to investigate, indict, and impeach but I bet some of the adults in the Democratic party are thinking that maybe they need tone that talk down unless they really have something (which they dont). I will lose some sleep with Pelosi in charge but I have lots of Alchohol and pills to help me.
P.S. I would add that NOW is the time to start staking out the ground for the next battle. Either way the next two years turn out to be we need to elect a President in 2008. Start thinking about who you want to support and VOLUNTEER.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-11-08 09:55|| 2006-11-08 09:55|| Front Page Top

#40 Cyber Sarge, the choices aren't good. Giuliani? The Republican base won't nominate him because of his stance on abortion. McCain? He stabbed W in the back constantly, and the only reason he is front and center is because he had Strange New Respect. Allen? He shot himself in the foot with this campaign. Maybe Romney, but I'm not sure we're ready for a Mormon president. We need to see how things shake out.

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2006-11-08 10:02|| 2006-11-08 10:02|| Front Page Top

#41 Expect the US House to display an end zone dance in the form of social sure bets like a minimum wage hike, Right to Work legislation, and immigration reform/amnesty. There will also be those in the Senate who are unable to resist flexing their new found muscle and try to distinguish their parties with things like blocking the nomination of Bolten to the UN, etcetera. Some will be more bellicose and call for hearings on Iraq pre-war intelligence manipulation and the like but as per usual it will be nothing more the political posturing knowing that 2008 is but two short years away. Real issues of importance such as the war, energy independence, and budget discipline will not change because, in reality, the differences between the two parties on matters of substance are more rhetorical then ideological.

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-11-08 10:11|| 2006-11-08 10:11|| Front Page Top

#42 I found it interesting that even in Boulder, maryjane wasn't an overwhelming for.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-11-08 10:16|| 2006-11-08 10:16|| Front Page Top

#43 The ones who would have voted for it were too high to get out to the polls.

Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan 2006-11-08 10:17|| 2006-11-08 10:17|| Front Page Top

#44 You know they're going to send us to Darfur.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-11-08 10:22|| 2006-11-08 10:22|| Front Page Top

#45 OH NOES!!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!

Get a grip people. This isn't the end of the world. The Dems have the thinnest of majorities. What we are looking at is 2 years of deadlock at worst. Nothing will get done. They won't have the votes to start impeachment hearings and even if they scrounge up the votes to start the hearings, they certainly couldn't get the votes to actually impeach Bush. There is no way in hell they can defund Iraq for two reasons: Bush can still VETO and the American people would see that as an insult to our troops. Ditto on raising taxes, Bush has the veto and the dems don't have the votes to overturn a veto. Hell, raising taxes would probably be good for the Right come '08. No, we'll have 2 years of Dhimmocratic blustering with nothing coming of it. Now, what happens in '08 is another story. Will there be another terrorist attack between now and then? That depends on how much the terrorists understand us and our government, even with a democratic government, Bush will still be the one who responds to any attack. It's that freaking simple.

Posted by AllahHateMe 2006-11-08 10:33|| 2006-11-08 10:33|| Front Page Top

#46 Americans voted to get the troops out of Iraq.

It will be defunded.

IMHO, there won't be as much gridlock as everyone thinks, the voters have spoken, they want Congress to get along, and the pubbies, to keep what they have, will get along.

They should fight on national health care, but medicare?

No.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-11-08 10:50|| 2006-11-08 10:50|| Front Page Top

#47 The bright side is that the donks will go into a feeding frenzy. The new House leadership has already said they are going to hold hearings on Haliburton, pre-war intel (maybe they should open the archives on FDR), corruption, big tobacco, blah, blah, blah...and eventually they will go after GW. They will become so intoxicated with power they will never get off the dime.

The real onus is on we conservatives: we have to kick out the old worthless cronies like Hastert, etc and bring in new, fearless, bold leadership...and get ordnance on target for 2008.

Posted by anymouse">anymouse 2006-11-08 10:53|| 2006-11-08 10:53|| Front Page Top

#48 I agree with anymouse.

The American people need to be reminded every couple of years why the Dems can't be trusted with any responsibility.

This could actually turn out to be good. The Dems will either grow up and become their Mother, or they will act like teenagers away from home for the first time.

Either way the adults will be back in charge by 2008.

Posted by frozen Al 2006-11-08 11:12|| 2006-11-08 11:12|| Front Page Top

#49 "I actually met Sir Winston" There is a man I would liked to have met.

Hey Betty, did we lay in a two year supply of Goody's Headache Powder? We are going to need it.

The Republic will survive. It has survived worse. I see the electorate getting tired quickly of Dhemmi shennanigans. I don't see the Dhemmis doing much in the next two years. Most of them are well (at least the leadership), too moonbat. The Republicans squandered opportunity with the help of the MSM. I worry that the WOT will be on hold in the West but not with the jihadists. We need a leader such as a Ronald Reagan but I don't see any on the horizon.

Murtha is going to have control of purse strings for the military. That is scary. Bush while not ducking will have to exercise his veto power.

The Republicans are going to have to get back on track. The voters slapped them to wake them up. They got away from their principles. The Republicans are going to have to get focused such as they were in the 1994 revolution let by Gingrich.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-11-08 11:15|| 2006-11-08 11:15|| Front Page Top

#50 Well, I'm right disgusted.

Pretty glum, too. Not entirely able to put my thoughts in order.

No amount of rationalizing or blame will help what happened, and the knowledge that the American people will get the incompetent sophists they asked for is cold comfort at best. There is no question that this will do damage to the country in the long run - the only question is how badly our ability to react to threats, our freedoms, and our autonomy will be damaged before sensible adults manage to recover the wheel from the kids.

Still, we are adults here, and we must act like them. No whining, no crying, no stamping our feet. We'll need to take a deep breath, narrow our eyes, roll up our sleeves, participate in about ten more cliches, and then start looking for genuinely good people.

Oh, and we should probably do what we can in the meantime to find those without honor in both parties and do what we can to call them to account for their misdeeds. I think the first and best thing we could do right now is make it clear that, Republican or Democrat, if you have betrayed this country or acted dishonorably in any way, shape, or form without coming clean, repenting, and acting differently, you don't deserve to hold public office. Everyone has their gray areas, and almost everyone deserves a second chance, but corruption and dishonesty should not be tolerated. (/Idealism!)

Oh, and we may want to clean our guns. With the Democrats in charge, self-defense - indeed, self-reliance in general - is going to become that much more important. The men who hijacked the planes on 9/11 were nothing but evil, but their evil was eclipsed by America's heroes - and the qualities of those heroes don't go away because the House is blue.

Posted by The Doctor 2006-11-08 11:29|| 2006-11-08 11:29|| Front Page Top

#51 Amen if we can survive Carter and Clinton then we will survive this. Imagine the fun we will have over the next two years just quoting Pelosi verbatim!

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-11-08 11:31|| 2006-11-08 11:31|| Front Page Top

#52 John Fn Kerry is all too ready to provide quotes for the grist mill also.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-11-08 11:35|| 2006-11-08 11:35|| Front Page Top

#53 What we are looking at is 2 years of deadlock at worst.

We don't have two years to allow the terrorists inroads in areas of security. None of this would matter if we weren't in a war for our own survival and I would think it was a good thing that the Republicans were ousted if we were not. The problem was that the media downplayed the serious nature of the war. I too hope that logic will prevail and they won't defund Iraq. That would be a good thing. But don't count on it. This election result stems from the baby boomers belief that they can just wish and make the war go away. The war won't go away.

Radical Islam won't be taking a two year vacation. If the younger generation wants the freedoms we've enjoyed, they will have to fight hard for it or lose them.

Posted by anon 2006-11-08 11:35|| 2006-11-08 11:35|| Front Page Top

#54 The War on Terror will not change. The Dems don't see Iraq as a theater in the war but part of that is because Bush did not frame the conflict very well.

The Dems have used the war in Iraq as a campaign issue but when push comes to shove they know withdrawal will make things worse and they'll get the blame (Even if you don't think they love the US or the troops you have to admit they love themselves). Withdrawal to bases is in the cards already and the time-frame with Iraqi government taking over will coincide close enough for them to declare victory.

The Iranian issue is a mystery though. It'll probably be a campaign issue in 2008 across the board. Until then Iran will go as fast as they can hoping to beat the deadline, Europe will push for everything short of war hoping to avoid the inevitable, Russia and China will profit by selling nasty stuff to nasty people. IN other words business as usual.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-08 11:40|| 2006-11-08 11:40|| Front Page Top

#55 The radical jihadists will not be taking a two year vacation. They will reload and continue to relentlessly try to figure out ways to push radical islam across the world. Although the jihadists prefer the Dhemmis, they don't care who is in power. Their agenda is world domination. The Dhemmis may have to figure this out also although I'm not optimistic judging from their crap-for-brains rhetoric.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-11-08 11:43|| 2006-11-08 11:43|| Front Page Top

#56 rjschwartz: The War on Terror will not change. The Dems don't see Iraq as a theater in the war but part of that is because Bush did not frame the conflict very well.

You can't sell out a set of allies and then tell your other allies (and the enemies waiting to eat _their_ families) that it was really because that theater wasn't important.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-11-08 11:58|| 2006-11-08 11:58|| Front Page Top

#57 Dhemmis

7:00 P.M. Opening flag burning.
7:15 P.M. Pledge of allegiance to U.N.
7:30 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
7:30 till 8:00 P.M. Non religious prayer and worship. Jessie Jackson
and Al Sharpton.
8:00 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
8:05 P.M. Ceremonial tree hugging.
8:15- 8:30 P.M. Gay Wedding-- Barney Frank Presiding.
8:30 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
8:35 P.M. Free Saddam Rally. Cindy Sheehan-- Susan Sarandon.
9:00 P.M. Keynote speech. The proper etiquette for surrender-- French
President Jacques Chirac
9:15 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast.
9:20 P.M. Collection to benefit Osama Bin Laden kidney transplant fund
9:30 P.M. Unveiling of plan to free freedom fighters from Guantanamo
Bay. Sean Penn
9:40 P.M. Why I hate the Military, A short talk by William Jefferson
Clinton
9:45 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
9:50 P.M. Dan Rather presented Truth in Broadcasting award, presented
by Michael Moore
9:55 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
10:00 P.M. How George Bush and Donald Rumsfeld brought down the World
Trade Center Towers-- Howard Dean
10:30 P.M. Nomination of Hillary Rodham Clinton by Mahmud Ahnadinejad
11:00 P.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
11:05 P.M. Al Gore reinvents Internet
11:15 P.M. Our Troops are War criminals-- John Kerry
11:30 P.M. Coronation Of Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton
12:00 A.M. Ted Kennedy proposes a toast
12:05 A.M. Bill asks Ted to drive Hillary home!!!!

Posted by JohnQC 2006-11-08 12:01|| 2006-11-08 12:01|| Front Page Top

#58 Proposed Rantburg Tm

Nancy Pelosi - "The Madam of the House"

It works on so many levels.....

Posted by Omeasing Groth4897 2006-11-08 12:30|| 2006-11-08 12:30|| Front Page Top

#59 As the "Greatest Generation" quickly leaves us to slip the surly bonds we usher in leadership form a new era, their replacement: "The Worst Generation". The people that once sacrificed EVERYTHING for us have given way to the most selfish crowd in history. It's so similar to many other boom-bust cycles in life. The new crew is good at nearly nothing. Their biggest accomplishments are destroying the things that make America great. As kids they found power in protesting the Vietnam war. Dividing the country and undermining our efforts started early for this bunch. Not much has changed with them. "Divide and Undermine" should be their motto. As adults they've expanded their horizons to undermine our basic freedoms, sovereignty, culture and the family.

A day of reckoning will come tho. As the children of the "Worst Generation" will have to step up and pay homage to their Grandparents, fixing the destruction caused by the "Worsts".

My fear is like most of yours. It will probably take 9/11 #2 to unite the nation in such a way that forces the "Worsts" to retreat to their rat holes for the final time.

Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2006-11-08 12:37|| 2006-11-08 12:37|| Front Page Top

#60 Nope, it'll be W's fault because they didn't get everything up and running faster.

Bye, Rummy.

I've thought for a long time it's going to take at least 1 million dead to get our attention.

W's repeating himself.

There will not be deadlock.

W doesn't do deadlock. And the pubbies that remain want to get re-elected.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-11-08 13:05|| 2006-11-08 13:05|| Front Page Top

#61 TO ALL NEOCONS CONS AND GEORGE SHITTKICKERS ALIKE ,TO ALL JESUS FANATICAL PSICOS BIBLE BELT RESIDENTS,
TO AL REPUBLICAN IN THE CLOSET FAGS, I REPEAT FAGS, AFTER TONIGTH I HAVE JUST TWO WORDS. UP YOURS!
PS. FUCK YOU RUMMMMMMY!!!

Posted by FUCKYOUASSOLES 2006-11-08 13:40|| 2006-11-08 13:40|| Front Page Top

#62 Aint that a cute troll. Yes your side won, but there is another election in about 24 months.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-11-08 13:45|| 2006-11-08 13:45|| Front Page Top

#63 Fags huh? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-11-08 13:52|| 2006-11-08 13:52|| Front Page Top

#64
And to our lefty idiot trolls - try looking at the policies endorsed by your newest part of your new majority. For Example Sen Casey of PA - PRO LIFE and PRO GUN and ANTI_GAY_MARRIAGE and in favor of Justices who judge law, not make it.

You got Dems in, but to win, you had to find moderates and conservatives. Your lefty stuff is either coign to get shitcanned, or else wil cause you to lose all your gains in '08

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 13:57|| 2006-11-08 13:57|| Front Page Top

#65 "fags"? Such language! Although, yes, some of us are. But not in the closet -- they're out here in the conversation with the rest of us, where they belong.

Posted by trailing wife 2006-11-08 13:57|| 2006-11-08 13:57|| Front Page Top

#66 Abdominal Snowman, if you cannot be troubled to spell my name correctly why should I pay any attention to what you have to say?

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-08 13:57|| 2006-11-08 13:57|| Front Page Top

#67 That would be grace in victory, I suppose. Where does one get a liberal education that teaches that "Caps Lock" is articulate? Probably a place full of "PSICOS". Priceless.

Posted by Darrell 2006-11-08 13:59|| 2006-11-08 13:59|| Front Page Top

#68 On the silver lining side:

I'm glad to not have to defend that pork barrel lobby infested immoral idiots that dominated the feckless leadership of the Republican Congress. the alternative is far worse, but at least they are now out there for all to see.

Now I get to go after leftists that would tax and spend, grow government, and abandon our defense, in their witch hunts and political payback that is harmful to the nation. All while pushing for Reagan style republicans that we can run with in 2008 and "Clean House". It will be fun to be on the Offensive instead of Defensive, the hunter not the hunted (but only for the next 2 years, maybe we can finally get the kill shot in on liberalism now that it flushed itself out int the open)

Yo Liberals, look out. Reagan Republicans are on the Hunt, and this time you can't hide your vacuous lack of integrity and common sense any more!

Hand that microphone to Charlie "son of a bitch" Rangel, Waxman the Weasel, Pelosi (highest negatives of any nationally known politicians - higher negatives than Bush!), and over in the senate Teddy K rolls his fat arse back in from of the camera to stutter and slur his way thru a diatribe between drinks. And of course we get a GIANT megaphone for ...

John Kerry! THe gift that never stops Giving!

HALP US JON CARRY!

LMAO!

Oh this is going to be too much FUN!

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 14:01|| 2006-11-08 14:01|| Front Page Top

#69 "if you cannot be troubled to spell my name correctly why should I pay any attention to what you have to say?"

because you argue the point and not the person fuckwit.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-11-08 14:03|| 2006-11-08 14:03|| Front Page Top

#70 TO AL REPUBLICAN IN THE CLOSET FAGS, I REPEAT FAGS, AFTER TONIGTH I HAVE JUST TWO WORDS. UP YOURS!
PS. FUCK YOU RUMMMMMMY!!!
Posted by FUCKYOUASSOLES

That just reeks of latent homosexuality there, Fuckyouassoles.
No, I will not tell you what it means. Go ask your mother.

Posted by tu3031 2006-11-08 14:27|| 2006-11-08 14:27|| Front Page Top

#71 Some good news...Hastert won't seek Minority Speaker position. Hopefully some serious house cleaning underway....a little late there.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-11-08 14:37|| 2006-11-08 14:37|| Front Page Top

#72 Abdominal Snowman, if you cannot be troubled to spell my name correctly why should I pay any attention to what you have to say?

Sorry, in my misspent youth I attempted to learn Cherman and sometimes misspell stuff that's close to Cherman words.

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-11-08 14:45|| 2006-11-08 14:45|| Front Page Top

#73 heh, I guess our visiting hate-filled gloater didn't grasp that the margins meant that most of his beloved democrats called him a fag.

Posted by anon 2006-11-08 14:47|| 2006-11-08 14:47|| Front Page Top

#74 Somewhat OT:

Could we here at RB please, please make a concerted effort to stop referring to the war as the "War on Terror"?

Could we call it the "War on Jihad"?

We know words have meaning. Part of the election defeat we suffered yesterday has so much to do with an inability to communicate with the man on the street.

I understand why the CIC can't call it a War on Islam or a War Against Islam. I don't understand why we can't call it a War on Jihad.

Yes, I know what is being referred to when we speak of the WOT, but I want our leaders to be more articulate.

Does anyone here recall a time when Churchill referred to the "War on Blitzkrieg"? No, I didn't think so.

Posted by Mark Z 2006-11-08 15:52|| 2006-11-08 15:52|| Front Page Top

#75 Schwarz is a German word. You would think you'd get it right. It means black. As in black forest. Schwarzkopf (Black head), Schwarzenegger (Black plowman).

copy paste if you have trouble with names.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-08 16:00|| 2006-11-08 16:00|| Front Page Top

#76 I thought black was schwartz?

huh.

Well, anyway, sorry.

(Or is the schwartz the force?)

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-11-08 16:46|| 2006-11-08 16:46|| Front Page Top

#77 Schwartz is the Yiddish word for Black.
Schwarz is the German word for black.
Copy/paste is the way to avoid screwing up peoples names.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-08 17:19|| 2006-11-08 17:19|| Front Page Top

#78 "FUCKYOUASSOLES" = our perennial troll, "nukeizrael".

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2006-11-08 17:39|| 2006-11-08 17:39|| Front Page Top

#79 rjschwartz, let it be and concentrate on more important issues

JEEZ

Posted by anon 2006-11-08 17:59|| 2006-11-08 17:59|| Front Page Top

#80 Anone are you trying to bait me?

Yeah Dems in charge sucks. Yeah Republicans had it coming. That doesn't mean we should start converting to Islam just yet. It doesn't even mean the bad guys get a breather. It means gridlock and Bush may learn to use his veto for a change.

A difficult Democratic Congress will be an asset to the Repubs in 2008. Pelosi knows 2008 is the prize so I'm guessing she'll reign in the psychos in her party so it'll probably be a quiet gridlock as far as these things go.

Might be a nice change of pace assuming the Republicans learned their lesson and are preparing for 2008.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-11-08 18:16|| 2006-11-08 18:16|| Front Page Top

#81 Anon, please, he said he wants it spelled "rjschwarz," so please do so. I did it by mistake, and may again, but that's no reason to do it on purpose.

(What can I say. I'm only nonhuman).

Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-11-08 18:44|| 2006-11-08 18:44|| Front Page Top

#82 I just can't get my mind around the moonbat from berkey leading the house! This will be the most disturbing two years of our lives. I just thank god they do not have the 2/3rds required to overthrow a veto.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-11-08 18:53|| 2006-11-08 18:53|| Front Page Top

#83 RJ - just for the record, I didn't post #79. Was another anon.

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