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US Rejects UN Resolutions on Gaza Violence as One-Sided
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Afghanistan
Would-be suicide bomber promised $17,000
Afghan police presented to reporters on Thursday a man they said had confessed to agreeing to carry out a suicide attack outside Kabul’s busiest mosque in return for nearly $17,000 for his family. The man, an Afghan who grew up in Pakistan, was arrested with a suicide vest strapped to his body at a police checkpost in the eastern province of Nangarhar near the Pakistani border early this week, a police spokesman said. The 24-year-old, identified as Chando Gul, was caught while he was on his way to Kabul, said Zemarai Bashary, a spokesman for the Interior Ministry that handles police matters. “He has confessed his family was to receive 1,000,000 rupees (16,600 dollars) after he carried out suicide attack at Puli-Khishti mosque in Kabul,” Bashary said.

The mosque, one of the oldest in the war-scarred capital, is popular among worshippers and adjacent to the crowded main Kabul market in the city centre. Gul told reporters that when he was recruited he had been working as a driver for a Pakistani national who was a Taliban and was named Mullah Gul Wali. “We were four people. We got an invitation from Mullah Gul Wali to carry out suicide attacks and he said doing that will take us to paradise in the next life and success in this life,” said Gul in broken language. “We were told our family will receive 1,000,000 rupees after we carried out the attack. I was told to detonate in Pul-e-Khisti mosque,” he said.

Gul said a suicide bomber who killed around a dozen people outside the Interior Ministry on September 30 was a friend of his and from the same group. The blast was among about six in the capital that month that badly rattled the heavily secured city, which has seen relatively little of the Taliban violence that has raged in the south this year. Gul said two of his other friends were tasked to carry out attacks at the Kabul police command and in Nangarhar.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  a man they said had confessed to agreeing to carry out a suicide attack outside Kabul’s busiest mosque in return for nearly $17,000 for his family


Bwahahahaha! But wait there's more! You'll also get a special plastic key to open the gates of heaven where you'll find waiting for you 72 virgins on each of 72 enormous beds inside each of 72 enormous mansions! And not only that, they're yours to do what you want with for eternity! And if that's not enough, all your friends, family members, and your favorite goat will be members for eternity at the same resort! Hurry, this is a limited time offer! (Small print: Limited to the time it takes you to figure out that it's a load of horse$hit, that is!)
Posted by: gorb || 11/10/2006 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  “We were told our family will receive 1,000,000 rupees after we carried out the attack. I was told to detonate in Pul-e-Khisti mosque,”

What is the odds the family would not have seen any of this money after he exploded/not got caught???!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/10/2006 5:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Shoot, that's pocket change compared with Saddam Hussein's payout of $25,000 per kaboom. Whoa, wait a minute, Saddam actually paid terrorists to murder Jews by kabooming themselves? I thought he didn't sponsor terrorism. At least that's what the victorious Democrats say.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Seeing as how he didn't push the button, it sounds like mommy thought it was a nice idea but he didn't agree.
Posted by: anon || 11/10/2006 8:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Lancasters - they didn't have WMD's either, unless you want to refer to the NYT's article that verified that Saddam was very near an atomic bomb. But you are only allowed to acknowledge that for the purposes of pointing out that the Bush administration should not have posted that information before the NYT could leak it themselves.
Posted by: anon || 11/10/2006 9:02 Comments || Top||

#6  Sucker, Paleos get > 25000$
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/10/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Like allan wouldn't suddenly command that the cash go to a higher purpose, like the care and overfeeding of mullahs.
Posted by: ed || 11/10/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#8  From the Firesign Theater radio show: Ebis Knebis had a parachute on. He was being interviewed by a news reporter on the edge of a hole to the center of the earth, caused by a comet hitting Hellmouth, Arizona. Ebis was going to jump into the hole and parachute for a stunt. The reporter asked him:

"Aren't you afraid of dying?"
Ebis sez, "Hell, no. Live or die, I'll make a million."
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/10/2006 15:28 Comments || Top||

#9  If my family was paid $17,000.00 for me blowing myself up in a crowd, the lawyers would see to it that my family would never see the money. But would owe more. They just need more lawyers over there, not soldiers.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/10/2006 18:53 Comments || Top||

#10  lawyers don't work well in places where when they (and their families) can be put into paper shredders if they don't give the "proper" verdict.
Posted by: anon || 11/10/2006 21:38 Comments || Top||


NATO raid kills up to 22 34 Taleban in Afghan south
KANDAHAR, Afghanistan - NATO forces killed up to 22 Taleban fighters in an air strike in Afghanistan’s southern province of Kandahar, Afghan and alliance officials said on Thursday. Residents said at least one woman was also killed in the raid on Wednesday evening in Zari district, southwest of the provincial capital, Kandahar city. They said cluster bombs were dropped in the attack on the district, scene of a major NATO offensive in September in which hundreds of Taleban were killed.
Cluster bombs have been in the news lately, haven't they?
A NATO official in Kabul said 20 insurgents were killed in Wednesday’s raid, but had no further details. District police chief Ghulam Rasool said 22 rebels died.

The Taleban said only two guerrillas were killed in the air strike, which they said followed an ambush of NATO vehicles in the province.
"Lies! All lies!"

And from Pak Daily Times...
Clashes between insurgents and NATO-led and Afghan troops left 34 Taliban and three policemen dead in the latest violence in Afghanistan, officials said on Thursday. Eight policemen, eight Taliban and three civilians were also wounded during the fighting in volatile southern provinces of Kandahar, Zabul and southeastern Khost which erupted overnight and continued early Thursday, police said. Twenty-two Taliban were killed during a joint operation by Afghan army, police and NATO forces late Wednesday in the Pashmole area of Zahri district in Kandahar province, district police chief Ghulam Rasoul Aka said.

Fighting erupted again early Thursday in Pashmole when insurgents attacked a police vehicle, prompting a gunbattle which left six Taliban dead, Aka said. In Zabul, Taliban fighters ambushed a police patrol killing two policemen and wounding another five. In Khost, rebels attacked a highway police patrol late Wednesday, killing a policeman and wounding three others.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I guess there is an endless supply of blood sacrifice to allan. Apparently almost 100 confirmed killed...and we know the taliwhackers drag all of the dead bodies and wounded they can out.
Posted by: anymouse || 11/10/2006 1:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Who is funding the Talibunnies?

I suspect our old friends the Saudis with the help of Paki ISI.

When will Bush confront Saudi re their use of funding terrorist whether in Iraq or Afghanistan????
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/10/2006 5:53 Comments || Top||

#3  President Bush was never going to confront Saudi Arabia until the oil supply from Iraq was certain. Europe and the rest of the world are much more dependent on Saudi oil than is the US, which gets the majority of it's supply from Canada, Mexico and Venezuela.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 7:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Reflections on two quotes:

"Clashes between insurgents and NATO-led and Afghan troops left 34 Taliban and three policemen dead in the latest violence in Afghanistan, officials said on Thursday."

Correction: "Clashes between insurgents and NATO-led and Afghan troops left 34 Taliban village idiot dimwits from Pakistan, who have nothing better to do with their dickless, sexless lives but to follow their Saudi-funded, Madrassa instructor's admonitions to go wage Jihad in the name of Allan."

"Who is funding the Talibunnies?

I suspect our old friends the Saudis with the help of Paki ISI.

When will Bush confront Saudi re their use of funding terrorist whether in Iraq or Afghanistan????"
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867

Good guess. Answer to your question about when Wally Cleaver ... err, I mean Bush will go after the shitcan of radical Islam, that is the Saudi Magic Kingdom ... Never! And that perhaps explains why his party took a thumping. Americans want a victory, not a useless slog. When confronted by that option, they'll opt out, even if the long term consequences are dire. Remember, we're a divided peopl that yearn to a return of BS. On Election Day, we got it and will have it for the next tow years.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Time to upgrade cluster bombs with depleted uranium for maximum BETTY CROCKERCRAT annoyance value. Build the things in a sweat shop of a smokey factory in the middle of a clear cut olde growth forrest in Oregon.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/10/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Correction to a correction:

Correction: "Clashes between insurgents and NATO-led and Afghan troops left 34 Taliban village idiot dimwits from Pakistan, who have nothing better to do with their dickless, sexless lives but to follow their Saudi-funded, Madrassa instructor's admonitions to go wage Jihad in the name of Allan, *very dead*."
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#7  Ugh!

Remember, we're a divided people that yearn to a return to BS. On Election Day, we got it and will have it for the next two years.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:53 Comments || Top||

#8  LOD

This statement doesn't quite make sense,

"When confronted by that option, ..".

Do you mean instaed,

"When confronted by that AS THE ONLY option THAT THEY WILL GET,.."

or something like it???
Posted by: Uliling Wheatch6879 || 11/10/2006 13:58 Comments || Top||

#9  Yep. That's it. We didn't really have much of an option, did we? Much as I hate to day it, but there are some times when Michael Savage is right.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 21:47 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Eleven nations feed Somali war build-up - experts
NAIROBI, Nov 10 (Rooters) - Militant groups and 11 countries are funnelling the military aid needed for a full-scale war into Somalia, widening the threat of conflict into the Horn of Africa and beyond, sources said a United Nations report will say.

Several security experts familiar with the content of an arms embargo violations report to the U.N. Security Council, due out next week, said the build-up of military supplies and personnel was aggressive even by Somali standards.

Rooters has not seen the report, which covers the period from June when Islamists took control of Mogadishu from U.S.-backed warlords, but interviewed several experts who have seen the final version. They say the report says Somalia's powerful Islamist movement has in its ranks about 1,000 battle-hardened foreign jihadists and volunteer trainers expert in assassination, suicide bombing and sniping from militant groups including Lebanon's Hezbollah.

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Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 09:53 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The Eritreans are bringing in aircraft in pieces, flying them into Mogadishu,"

Those are hella good pilots.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#2  But boy, are their arms tired.
Posted by: ed || 11/10/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Syria, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Egypt, Eritrea, Djibouti and Saudi Arabia have all provided weapons or supplies -- including food, uniforms, fuel and doctors -- to the Islamists.

All the usual suspects apart from Pakistan????

Iran and Saudi are hoping to make Africa Muslim i presume???!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/10/2006 10:50 Comments || Top||

#4 
All the usual suspects apart from Pakistan????


The Pakis have their hands full; they have "opposition movements" to support on both their eastern and western fronts. Probably some to the north and south, too.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 13:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Article: Syria, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Egypt, Eritrea, Djibouti and Saudi Arabia have all provided weapons or supplies -- including food, uniforms, fuel and doctors -- to the Islamists.

If this is true, the Ethiopians will lose. Badly. Heck, Ethiopia might even be overrun.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/10/2006 13:11 Comments || Top||

#6  let them kill eac other off, hell thats less aid we have too send them.
Posted by: Glomoger Angavitle2117 || 11/10/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm sure the comic book advertising on the right hand of the page will all talk about this is really one of Rumsfeld's lies undermining our democracy but now with the dems in power this'll stop in short order...
Posted by: Abdominal Snowman || 11/10/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#8  So I guess we will hear from the EU how this isn't about Islam pretty soon.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/10/2006 13:51 Comments || Top||

#9  This would be called filling the swamp...
Posted by: Hyper || 11/10/2006 14:53 Comments || Top||

#10  Lol, Hyper!
Posted by: .com || 11/10/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||


Chad: 220 killed in Eastern Ethnic attacks
(SomaliNet) The United Nations refugee agency UNHCR said on Thursday that Gunmen on horseback have killed up to 220 villagers in eastern Chad in the past week in growing ethnic violence near Sudan's war torn Darfur region, Reuters.

According to UNHCR statement, the raiders have struck at least seven villages since Nov. 4, adding that, “...initial reports indicate that as many as 220 people have been killed in this week's string of attacks, with dozens wounded".

Chadian humanitarian workers said the attacks were carried out by gun-toting Arab tribesmen against African villagers often armed with nothing more than bows, arrows and swords. "Around 200 men on horseback attacked, accompanied by two Toyota pick-ups," a humanitarian worker in touch with colleagues in the area told Reuters about one of the attacks, which took place around Dar Sila in Chad's eastern province of Ouaddai.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Special session of UNSC in 5..4..
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/10/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemen probes reports on shipment of explosives seized in Indonesia
Yemen said Thursday it was investigating reports about a shipment of explosive materials seized in an Indonesian port and reportedly bound for Yemen. Yemeni Foreign Minister Abu-Bakr al-Qerbi told reporters that his government received an alert from Indonesian authorities after Indonesian police had found the 63-ton shipment on a Chinese vessel bound for Yemen. "Our ministry is still inspecting the incident, and we have yet to get solid information about the shipment and its destination," the Yemeni minister said.

Reports from Indonesia quoted police officials in the Indonesian port of Cita Tubindo in the Batam island as saying that documents found on the ship indicated it was on its way to Yemen. According to the reports, the ship was carrying one container filled with detonators and five others packed with 63 tons of explosive powder. It was not clear when the cache was seized.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  China needs to be watched very closely in this story. It would be fascinating to see the cargo manifest and what the tracking intel says about where this vessel went between China and the point of seizure.
Posted by: JustAboutEnough || 11/10/2006 13:37 Comments || Top||


Nexen denies Yemen facility damaged by bombing
Nexen Inc. said an oil tanker loading facility it owns and operates in the Republic of Yemen was not damaged in a September suicide bombing. A Web site statement this week from a group — believed to be Al Qaeda's wing in Yemen — claimed responsibility for launching the attack, adding it inflicted "massive destruction" by blowing up an oil tanker at Nexen’s Ash Shihr oil export terminal on the morning of Sept. 15.
"There was a Yemeni guard who was killed and two employees with the security firm suffered mild concussions. If there was extensive damage, you would have seen it in our production rates. But production was not shut in or impacted in any way, shape or form."
"There was no damage to any of our facilities with the exception of the guard house and the front gate," said Nexen spokesman Kevin Finn. "There was a Yemeni guard who was killed and two employees with the security firm suffered mild concussions. If there was extensive damage, you would have seen it in our production rates. But production was not shut in or impacted in any way, shape or form."

Calgary-based Nexen issued a similar statement on the day of the attack. Mr. Finn said one of the terrorists died in an explosion at the compound’s gate while the other was shot in his vehicle by Yemeni army security. The Internet statement said a pair of acts that day targeting Western oil facilities in Yemen — a Hunt Oil Co. refinery was also attacked and both terrorists died —were carried out on orders from Osama bin Laden.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Britain
Woman charged under British terrorism act
British police on Thursday charged a 22-year-old woman with a series of offenses after they said they found terrorist handbooks and weapons manuals on a computer hard drive. Samina Malik, who police said is unemployed and lives in south London, was charged with four offenses under the Terrorism Act 2000, including possessing information likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
CIA Flights: Muslim Cleric Says He Was Kidnapped, Tortured By Italians
A Muslim cleric allegedly abducted by CIA agents in Milan in 2003 says in a document presented to Italian prosecutors that Italian agents participated in the operation and tortured him. In the document, which was obtained by Italy's largest circulation paper Corriere della Sera and published on Thursday, Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, says two of the kidnappers were "very Italian." He thus contradicts claims by Italian military intelligence chief Nicolo Pollari that Italy knew nothing of the plan and that the operation was possibly the fake abduction of an informer.

In his diary of the abduction, Abu Omar recollects how he was seized by agents as he was walking in a street in Italy's financial capital and forced to get inside a van, where he claims two Italian agents had to carry out a chest massage after he was so badly beaten. "I heard the two Italians discuss and one of the two was screaming," Abu Omar writes. "They tore away my clothes and performed a chest massage."

The cleric then claims that he was taken to an airport and transported to Egypt where he was questioned and repeatedly tortured. "The first time that (Egyptian officials) tortured me, they swore against me and Italy, saying that it had given me political asylum. They told me: Italy handed you over to Egypt and no one has come from Italy to free you from these tortures."
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Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey pal, we read the Al-Qaeda Manual section on faking torture, to engage Western human rights' advocates.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/10/2006 5:54 Comments || Top||

#2  Osama Moustafa Hassan Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, says two of the kidnappers were "very Italian."

THey were named "Vinnie" and "Guido;" they said they were from New Jersey and had relatives in Youngstown; they talked of kneecaps and cement shoes and something called "pastaboarding."
Posted by: Mike || 11/10/2006 7:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah, but did he at least get a chance to try the rigatoni?
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 11/10/2006 7:43 Comments || Top||

#4  they talked of kneecaps and cement shoes and something called "pastaboarding."

If that's something like "smorgasborging", I'm interested.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 8:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Now I know Europe is lost. Using gay Italian agents to molest Islamists into talking is no way to win.

Then again publishing photos of a greased up cleric enjoying a "chest massage" may indeed undermine their street creds.
Posted by: Lanny Ddub || 11/10/2006 8:12 Comments || Top||

#6  Tortured By Italians

"..ay, Osam' - you see this spaghetti carbonara? NO FOR YOU!!"

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 11/10/2006 8:42 Comments || Top||

#7  "I was savagely whipped with overcooked spaghetti! It was horrible! Horrible!"
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 8:50 Comments || Top||

#8  "They fed me cold pizza, with Canadian bacon!"
Posted by: ed || 11/10/2006 8:52 Comments || Top||

#9  Shouldn't this be a huge ebarrassment to the Italians? Weren't they on their high horse about us snatching this guy without their knowledge?
Posted by: anon || 11/10/2006 9:07 Comments || Top||

#10 
Posted by: doc || 11/10/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||

#11  If that's something like "smorgasborging", I'm interested.

In Soviet Russia, smorgasborg assimilates you!
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 11:09 Comments || Top||

#12  PS: You are sick, twisted and perverted, doc. And I respect that in a man.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 11:13 Comments || Top||

#13 

Chest massage? Can't be one of my boys... Ya'd probably not be here to talk about that...
Posted by: BigEd || 11/10/2006 15:38 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
7 rockets hit Kohlu camp
Suspected tribal militants fired seven rockets at a security camp in Kohlu on Thursday, injuring one soldier. The assailants fled when security forces retaliated. No arrests have yet been made, and no group has claimed responsibility for the attack.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


Blast suspects allege torture
Thirteen men being held for suspected involvement in the deadly July 11 Mumbai train bombings alleged on Thursday that police officers beat them in custody and offered them bribes to testify against other suspects. Police denied their claims, made to a special sessions court judge in Mumbai. The 13 men were arrested on charges of exploding seven bombs on commuter trains in Mumbai on July 11, killing more than 200 people. The men named top police investigator KP Raghuvanshi and Mumbai police chief AN Roy and alleged that they told the suspects that they were under pressure to extract confessions. “Raghuvanshi and Roy came to see me and said they were under political pressure to torture us and to implicate me,” said Ethesham Siddiqui, among the accused men who complained to the judge. Another suspect, Sohail Shaikh, alleged that Raghuvanshi and other officers “beat us up”. Naved Hussain said an officer from the Anti-Terrorism Squad “tried to give me money to turn approver” or state witness.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:


Dogs, helicopters fail to find bomber's accomplice
The law enforcement agencies have so far failed to locate the suspected accomplice of the suicide bomber who killed 42 army recruits at a training centre in Dargai, Malakand Agency. “The army and security agencies used sniffer dogs and helicopters to pick the trail of the suspect who was seen disappearing in the sugarcane fields of the Khatko Sha village, but in vain,” said local journalist Abidullah Abid. Abid said that on Wednesday, the villagers fired shots at the suspect, but he pulled out a hand grenade from his clothes and threatened to hurl it at them before disappearing in the fields. “The suspect is medium built, in his mid twenties and has a short beard,” Abid said, quoting witnesses who saw the suspect running away from the parade ground after the explosion.

A joint investigation team headed by a brigadier and consisting of officers of the MI, ISI and IB has started recording the statements of witnesses and the injured soldiers. Meanwhile, a collective funeral for the martyred soldiers was held at the Punjab Regiment Centre in Mardan. Senior army officials and thousands of mourners were present on the occasion. Their bodies were handed over to their families for burial in their native villages after the namaaz-e-jinaza.
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Bomber wasn't Pakistani: injured recruit
Four army recruits injured in Wednesday’s suicide attack at Dargai, Malakand Agency, told Daily Times on Thursday that the man who carried out the attack did not appear to be a Pakistani.
My guess is, he was a Scotchman. It's usually them, isn't it?
The injured recruits – Akram Khan, Asif, Kalim Sultan and Rajab Ali – were admitted to the Combined Military Hospital in Peshawar following the suicide attack that killed 42 military personnel at the Punjab Regiment Recruitment Centre at Dargai.

The recruits said that the suicide bomber had a black beard and wore a Taliban-style jacket and a Sindhi cap, but did not seem to be a Pakistani. “We (a group of 90 recruits) were asked by hawaldar Ijaz to straighten up our lines for physical training when the suicide bomber, aged between 37 and 40, walked towards the parade ground and gradually started running towards us. As soon as he (the bomber) came closer to our group, he blew himself up,” said the recruits. They said that the suicide bomber did not shout Allah-o-Akbar before detonating the bomb. Akram Khan, a resident of Jhara tehsil, Takht Bhai district in Mardan, said the group had been training in the PRC Fort ground since August. Akram, who lost his right hand in the blast, said that two guards had been deployed for the recruits’ security following the Bajaur madrassa airstrike.

Kalim Sultan, who received injuries on his head and legs, and Asif, who lost his left hand in the blast, said that they had been cautioned against moving freely in Dargai Bazaar and authorities had also stopped issuing them night passes to go home following the Bajaur incident.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hooray for Fred! I'm forever calling them that, and equally forever people say, "No, no, the drink is Scotch, the people are Scots." I blame it on being reared bilingually in British and American Englishes.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 7:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Fred, you've got the right first letter in your guess of the boomer's origin. I suspect however that Scotland is blameless. Let's do a DNA smell test, shan't we? Hmmm, I smell the porkish aroma of a .... Saudi.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Even when injured pakis lie!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 11/10/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||


Badr man Fahad set up sleeper cells
Al-Badr terrorist Mohammad Fahad, arrested in Mysore for planning a headline-grabbing terror attack on Vidhana Soudha, has revealed links leading to a terror sleeper cell he helped set up in the Capital. Sources said the arrested terrorist told his interrogators that he had visited Delhi four times since April to distribute huge cash amounts to different members of the Badr module. This cell may now well be at the top of Delhi police’s anti-terror operations.

The Badr man’s disclosures are seen as confirmation that the outfit, smaller in comparison to more notorious ones like Jaish-e-Mohammad and Lashkar-e-Taiba, are now trying to widen the scope of their so-called jehad outside Jammu and Kashmir. Intelligence agencies are looking into Fahad’s Delhi connections and probing leads he provided about locations where he met members of the Badr cell in the Capital.

Sources said Fahad had come to Delhi in April and had given Rs 50,000 to a person he had met in the Jama Masjid area. In his next trip a month later, again from Mysore, he stayed in the Walled City area, and was to deliver around Rs 4-5 lakh to an agent who never turned up. Fahad’s third trip to Delhi was in July this year when he had stopped on his way back from Srinagar to Mysore. The contact’s name and the meeting place were conveyed to him from Pakistan. This time he had delivered Rs 3 lakh to an agent. In his fourth trip to Delhi in August, Fahad had delivered Rs 3.5 lakh to a contact. Sources said in each of these cases, Fahad has told his investigators that he did not know the identity of the person whom he delivered the cash. The names and meeting points were only conveyed to him.

A senior official in the Delhi Police said they are working on neutralising some sleeper cells information for which had come from the Mumbai police.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
At least 17 killed in Iraq violence
At least 17 people were killed in Iraq on Thursday, seven of them in a suicide car bomb attack in Baghdad, security and medical sources said on the second day of violence since the curfew in the capital was lifted. Seven civilians were killed and 27 wounded when a suicide car bomber blew himself up near Mishin trade complex in the Riyadh area of southeast Baghdad, a medic at Baghdad’s Ibn Nafis hospital said. A security source said that first a mortar fell on the complex, and when people gathered near the site a car bomber then approached and detonated his vehicle. In another attack a bomb exploded in the Suq Haraj market in central Baghdad’s Bab al-Sharqi area, killing three and wounding 19, Al-Kindi hospital said.

Another car bomb in the Faraj market at Baghdad’s northeastern Qahira neighbourhood killed three more and wounded 12. The nearby College of Fine Arts was also targeted with a car bomb that killed two civilians and wounded three others.

A roadside bomb targeting an Iraqi army patrol killed a soldier and wounded four civilian pedestrians on Baghdad’s Palestine Street. A civilian was killed and another three wounded when a bomb exploded near their car northeast of the southern city of Amara, a source with the city’s Civil Defence authority said. Police also recovered four bodies, three of them in police uniforms, from the Tigris River near the town of Suweira, south of Baghdad.

Meanwhile, a dozen mortars slammed into Baghdad’s northern Sunni district of Adhamiyah overnight. The rain of mortars, which went on into the early hours, filled the night air with the sound of explosions, but according to authorities they did not cause any casualties. “Twelve mortars fell on Adhamiyah but did not result in any human loss, although they caused heavy damage to houses,” said an official in the security services.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Those mortars are damn heavy. No wonder they caused damage. Imagine if the shells had been included.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/10/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel official: Strike on Iran possible
JERUSALEM - The deputy defense minister suggested Friday that Israel might be forced to launch a military strike against Iran's disputed nuclear program — the clearest statement yet of such a possibility from a high-ranking official.

"I am not advocating an Israeli pre-emptive military action against Iran and I am aware of its possible repercussions," Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim Sneh, a former general, said in comments published Friday in The Jerusalem Post. "I consider it a last resort. But even the last resort is sometimes the only resort."

Sneh's comments did not necessarily reflect the view of Israel's government or of Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, said government spokeswoman Miri Eisin.

Olmert, who was arriving in Washington on Sunday, said he was confident in the U.S. handling of the international standoff over Iran's nuclear program. The Bush administration and other nations say is a cover for developing atomic weapons, but Tehran says the program is peaceful.

"I have enormous respect for President Bush. He is absolutely committed," Olmert said in an interview on NBC's "Today" show. "I know that America will not allow Iran to possess nuclear weapons because this is a danger to the whole Western world."

The United States and its European allies have proposed a raft of sanctions to try to curb the country's nuclear development.

Israel sees Iran as the greatest threat to its survival. Hard-line Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel's destruction, and Israelis do not believe his claims that Iran's nuclear program is meant to develop energy, not arms.

Israel crippled Iraq's atomic program 25 years ago with an airstrike on its unfinished nuclear reactor. Experts say Iran has learned from Iraq's mistakes, scattering its nuclear facilities and building some underground.

Sneh's tough talk is the boldest to date by a high-ranking Israeli official. Olmert and other Israeli leaders frequently discuss the Iranian threat in grave terms, but stop short of threatening military action.

Years of diplomacy have failed to persuade Iran to modify its nuclear program so it can't develop weapons.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/10/2006 14:10 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  George isn't going to make the first strike, but he would provide backup. Israel is just going to have to wait until they have a PM with the testosterone. Given the current U.S. Navy deployment in the region, now may be the best time to strike with U.S. backup.
Posted by: Darrell || 11/10/2006 15:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Why are they talking about it. Say nothing. Plan it. Execute it. Cut out the political BS. Talk is cheap. We do not believe much of what we hear anymore.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/10/2006 15:33 Comments || Top||

#3  USS Boxer Strike Group, entered the Persian Gulf Thursday, Nov. 9, the largest US landing force to reach this water in a decade.

The Boxer Expeditionary Strike Group (BOXESG) now in the US Fifth Fleet area headquartered in Bahrain, consists of Boxer (picture), Amphibious Squadron 5, the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit (Seals), the Coast Guard cutter Midgett and

Canadian frigate HMCS Ottawa, as well as the USS Dubuque, USS Comstock, the largest landing craft in the US Navy, USS Bunker Hill and the guided missile destroyers USS Benfold and USS Howard.

The Boxer Group has just come from joint maneuvers with the Indian navy in the Arabian Sea opposite the coast of Goa, including large-scale landing practices. The group’s commander, Capt. David Angood said that if “anything important happens in the real-world environment, the task force will deal with it in the most efficient manner.”

www.debka.com
Posted by: doc || 11/10/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#4 

Do ya feel lucky, punk?
Posted by: BigEd || 11/10/2006 15:52 Comments || Top||

#5  The number of international obstacles that would be removed if we could just get the bastards to attack us, ineffectively, first, makes it a prime consideration.

So the big question is what can we do, or how can we stimulate them to throw a missile right at our anti-missile defenses?

Ideally, if we could get them to throw a missile at Europe, maybe Berlin. In that case it would be best if it "broke up in flight". Of course, if they threw a salvo of Shahab-5s, well, sorry, Berlin. That's what you get for being so pussy.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/10/2006 16:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Boxer Carrier Group is a rapid attack force. Ergo: there will be war. I can't see use of conventional weapons - smart missiles - against Iran's missiles. They have too many and possess the capacity of doing serious damage to Bahrain, and nearby US forces. The pretext for escalation? Ahmadinejad has made repeated genocide threats against Americans and Israelis. GWB will not permit development of an ICBM threat to the US Homeland.

The President needs to rely on the fait accompli. In the cases of Granada and Panama, intervention was NOT disclosed until the attack was well under way. In the SE Asia intervention, President Nixon telegraphed most US actions, by making solemn declarations about enemy depravity. Bush1 and 2 have followed in kind, giving opponents ample opportunity to sandbag public support. A fait accompli means: do it first, talk about it later.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/10/2006 19:17 Comments || Top||

#7  The President needs to rely on the fait accompli. In the cases of Granada and Panama, intervention was NOT disclosed until the attack was well under way. In the SE Asia intervention, President Nixon telegraphed most US actions, by making solemn declarations about enemy depravity. Bush1 and 2 have followed in kind, giving opponents ample opportunity to sandbag public support. A fait accompli means: do it first, talk about it later.
Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-11-10 19:17


Freaking Excellent Point, as Napoleon Dynamite might say!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 21:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Sneaze

I agree Iran is not Iraq or Afghanistan. Iran has a large missile force, limited air force/navy, and a conventional force that if allowed to get first strike could do some substantial damage to our forces in region and of course our allies populations. Iran has said many times they will not sit by as we prepare to strike they will hit first.

Some odd ball history the Iraq war started in Febuary 03' and Irans Buesher Nuclear reactor is set to get fuel and start warming up in March 07'. At that point to destroy it would mean Chernobyl. The Isreali's hit Saddams reactor right before it went online and the option of blowing it up was taken off the table.
Posted by: C-Low || 11/10/2006 23:35 Comments || Top||


Palestinians Bury 19 Victims of Israeli Shelling in Beit Hanoun
Btw, from one of my ML : Fox News just reports that palestinian sources now admit that the house explosion that killed 18 was from explosives stored in the house, not Israeli artillery.

Previous photo reports of the house didnot support an artillery or tank round explosion, something that NO news media mentioned. Once again, plo forces stored explosives in a building with many children within. The children died and Israel is again blamed.

(Shades of Jenin,Lebanon and AL Durah. )

Shabat Shalom.


Any Fox Viewer can confirm that? So far, nothing on their website.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 09:48 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  On the other hand, anonymous5089, suppose IDF were to arrange 19 Paleo dead after each kassam?
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/10/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#2  They aren't "victims" of anything except their own hatred, religion and general stupidity. Oh, and their explosives, of course.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#3  On the other hand, anonymous5089, suppose IDF were to arrange 19 Paleo dead after each kassam?

Now you're talking!
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 10:02 Comments || Top||

#4  On the third hand, I'd like to pour a few litters of castor oil (or California zinfandel) down the throat of each and every Israeli Lefty that mouthed off yesterday.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/10/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  I vaguely remember making a "what about the secondary explosions" joke about this.

Looks like it wasn't a joke.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 10:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Who fucking cares if there was secondary explosion? It doesn’t matter if their beds were made out of Cemtex. It was the artillery shells that caused the civilian deaths! Bite the bullet apologists…Israel is to blame for this tradgedy.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/10/2006 11:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Israel is to blame for this tradgedy.


If only it were a tragedy.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 11:21 Comments || Top||

#8  "If only it were a tragedy."

So innocent children getting snuffed isn't tradgedy as long as their Paleo children huh?
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/10/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#9  I agree we shouldn't be callous regarding civilian losses, at least as long as we wish to remain what we are, and even regarding mostly hostile populations.

WWII allies certainly didn't care at all about ennemy civil losses, and even aimed at it through cities oblitering, but we're not yet in that total industrial war phase, and we'll probably never be.

Point is, can any FNC viewer confirm this blur? If the cause of the explosion was not an israeli shell, then this point is moot anyway.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#10  DepotGuy,

How about a primary explosion--that seems to be the case. Would you still blame Israel?

As for children, it sucks. The fact is they are indoctrinated in hatred from an early age and would likely to grow up as splodeys. That is what Paleos see them as--potential splodeys. Especially if they have house stuffed with C4.

And that is a tragedy.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/10/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#11  innocent children dead because they were in an accident. How many would've died if the Paleos hadn't stored explosives in their house? Dickwad
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 12:00 Comments || Top||

#12  more martyrs for the Paleo death cult. Nobody would be firing shells if the Paleos could behave in a civil way. They can't, so they reap the consequences. Paleo rockets are DESIGNED to kill civilians, including children. Do you condemn the Paleos on their daily rocket attacks? I thought not
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 12:02 Comments || Top||

#13  So innocent children getting snuffed isn't tradgedy as long as their Paleo children huh?

This wasn't an accident. The parents intentionally endangered their own children and they paid for it with their kids' lives. Tragedies are usually unintended or criminal in nature. These Palestinian assholes intended to kill lots of people in a criminal fashion. Their slovenly handling of dangerous materials wound up getting them killed instead. Yeah, the kids were semi-innocent bystanders, but only Palestinian infants are not indoctrinated with Jew hatred.

Watch the "Obsession" video sometime. You'll see Palestinian kindergarteners, KINDERGARTENERS fer fuck's sake screaming about how they want to strap on a bomb vest and gloriously go out and kill some Jews. Every Palestinian man, woman and child represent exactly what's wrong with this world and the sooner they're all dead, the sooner there will be some hope for peace in that region. They could give a shit about peace and, therefore, I could give a shit about them.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 12:24 Comments || Top||

#14  DepotGuy, what kind of people store explosives where children live, knowing that they could, ummmm, explode, should someone strike a match in the wrong place? Even if it were a Israeli artillery that set it off, we must hold the family culpable for setting up so very dangerous a situation, and the leaders of whichever "military arm of..." group that decided to store the stuff there.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 12:24 Comments || Top||

#15  Question: is this the real DepotGuy, or is someone nym-stealing again?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#16  He has a point though, we shouldn't gloat on children deaths, even ones who will be/are being turned into hate-machines by a dysfunctional society.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 12:29 Comments || Top||

#17  Who's gloating? I merely refuse to have even a shred of sympathy for dead Palestinians, They have begged on hands and knees for every single disaster that has befallen them. These scum have prolonged this festering global wound for so long that I no longer feel the least mercy for them.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#18  "Do you condemn the Paleos on their daily rocket attacks?"

Frank, was there rockets fired from that particular location? Sorry didn’t catch that one. Did Olmert admit a technical error resulted in civilian deaths? Oh wait…now it was hidden explosives or was it spontaneous combustion. Couldn’t have been that barrage of errant artillery fire into a populated neighborhood that had anything to do with it. Look, I’m under no illusions that I can change your mind. Especially someone as articulate as you…that clever Dickwad comment and all. So I’ll leave you with this. Next time you get the vapors over one of your Uncle Leo anti-Semitism stories your so fond of, remember how easy it is for even you to de-humanize others, including children, to justify innocent slaughter. (Or should I say collateral damage of future Death-cult members?)
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/10/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||

#19  you're right. You didn't change my mind
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 12:56 Comments || Top||

#20  Keep up with the story, DepotGuy. The explosion was a work accident, not the result of Israeli action.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 13:04 Comments || Top||

#21  Couldn’t have been that barrage of errant artillery fire into a populated neighborhood that had anything to do with it.

Where the hell do you get off? The Palestinians are firing dozens of their damned rockets into Israeli civilian areas every single day and you're trying to whinge about a stray artillery shell that hits a residence being used as a covert munitions bunker?

Get a clue! The Palestinians routinely use illegitimate targets (women, children, mosques, ambulances) for military operations. Then they have the nerve to claim that every Israeli citizen, due to mandatory conscription, is a valid military target. Yet they somehow feel free to squawk with indignation when their own highly militarized population gets hit? As usual, the Palestinians want things both ways and have the gall to whine when they don't get it. Your own pathetic attempt at moral equivalence doesn't cut any ice with me.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 13:14 Comments || Top||

#22  Here's a question for you, DepotGuy. How do you feel about the casualties resulting from those Palestinian women who volunteered as human shields so those terrorists could escape from the mosque that they had holed up in? Are you going to get all weepy about that too?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 13:19 Comments || Top||

#23  Im remember them dancing in the strrets and handing out candy on 9/11.
I could care less how many of them die.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/10/2006 13:19 Comments || Top||

#24  I echo TWs question re: DepotGuy....didn't sound like him.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/10/2006 13:43 Comments || Top||

#25  Human shields and the willful hazarding of innocents are the basis of all terrorist and leftist media strategy worldwide.

Propaganda like what we have seen since this incident, and the line taken by Depot Guy, are an attempt to reverse the age-old principle that those who attempt to hide behind innocents are responsible if those innocents come to harm.
Leftists don't give a rat's ass about innocents being killed, their wailing and moaning is cynical calculated manipulation. How many times have you heard some smug leftist pig declare that "this is revolution andinnocent people get hurt in a revolution" when their side commits one its barbaric and quite deliberate murders of innocent people?

Fuck them and fuck their depraved pretense of morality. They are all liars and killers.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/10/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||

#26  Ohfercrisesakes. First things first, I’ve picked a horse in this race and sure as hell isn’t HAMAS or any of the other Paleo thugs. Second, if civilians (even if they’re babies in the womb) get kakked in the proximity of any attack (rocket launch, bombs, or whatever) the fault lies squarely on themselves and those that put them in harms way. I was referring to this particular incident, I repeat this particular incident. Not the whole fucking history of the Middle-East conflict. Nor was I making any moral judgments. So don’t give me the “moral equivalence” shtick. This appears to be mistake…not just logistically but as a result of the Israelis exuberance it is a strategic and political blunder as well. Maybe it’s just me but I’m thinking those errant shells prolly kilt a few. And really doesn’t matter much if there were explosives around or not…dead civilians were the result. All I’m saying is; admit the mistake, apologize if necessary, take corrective actions and blow the shit outta the real bad guys. But this excuse shit gets tiresome.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/10/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#27  The only way to guarantee that incidents like this won't happen, DG, is to surrender completely to the human shields strategy. This is especially true in view of the evidence that the terrorists and their media allies deliberately instigate events like this by placing innocents in danger.
This will result in a disaster incomparably worse than it already has, and that is obvious.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 11/10/2006 14:43 Comments || Top||

#28  Ok...that's better. Israel has apologized quite enough already...it's gotten monotenous and quite frankly, noones listening anyway.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/10/2006 14:47 Comments || Top||

#29  I was referring to this particular incident, I repeat this particular incident.

Which was a work accident. Which you tried to blame on the Israelis.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 14:48 Comments || Top||

#30  Incidents like this would not be a problem if the Israelis had the balls to do the equivalant of an ARCLIGHT mission set on GAZA.

That would end the terror or end Gaza residents and there would be nobody left to notice or complain.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/10/2006 16:17 Comments || Top||

#31  blow the shit outta the real bad guys

You just don't get it, do you? The Palestinian bad guys;

HIDE AMONGST THE CIVILIANS.
LIVE IN CIVILIAN QUARTERS.
DRIVE CIVILIAN VEHICLES.
DRESS LIKE CIVILIANS.

How are you going to go after them? I'd really love to hear your explanation. How are you going to take out the "real bad guys" without nailing any civilians in the process? Especially when the civilians willfully intervene to shield, abet, conceal and obstruct. Are the Israelis supposed to go through each settlement, house-to-house, and take all the casualties just to spare a complicit population?

The population actively supports the rocket launchers. They know full well that the rockets are launched against Israeli civilian targets, INCLUDING SMALL CHILDREN AND INFANTS. By dint of this, the Palestinians militarize their entire population and municipalities. You ARE playing a moral equivalency game here, whether you admit it or not.

How would you fight this sort of enemy while not killing any fluffy baby ducklings, bunny rabbits or puppies children?
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#32  How would you fight this sort of enemy while not killing any fluffy baby ducklings, bunny rabbits or puppies children?
Posted by: Zenster 2006-11-10 16:39

At the extreme risk of being flamed here, I have to ask:
How are we doing it in Iraq? It appears anyone who died in a civilian attack was involved with the known enemy. I can only imagine the outcry had this been our "mistake". I think similar things have happened in Iraq but, 500 yards is a long way off. Is it the way it gets reported? The secondary explosions makes for many more questions than answers.

(snip from article)
"All of us are feeling sad, and worried, too," said Abu Shabat, tears streaming down her face. "We are going to bury this family and ask ourselves, 'Who's next? Me? My grandchildren? My neighbor?"'

UUUMMM. Don't store things that go boom in your house.
I understand DG's thoughts on the "innocents". The children are innocent even though their teachings teach hate. If I happenend to teach my child to hate (black, yellow, red, purple) people, it is me who is full of hate not them. They are just following my teachings until they can think for themselves. Unfortunately, Slopey jrs. will never have access to other information until there is freedom and peace. Maybe never in our lifetime.
Maybe it’s just me but I’m thinking those errant shells prolly kilt a few.
Posted by: DepotGuy 2006-11-10 14:35

/snip
"I will avenge, I will avenge!" screamed one of the victims' relatives as he fired his weapon, voicing a common sentiment among the mourners.

IMA thinking those 7.62x39 rounds coulda kilt a few as well.

Sorry, people died. It a war zone. Both the U.S. and Israel need to stop worrying about "feelings" and take care of business. And before you flame, I realize that we are "nation building" in Iraq and Israel is, well trying to keep her ass from being attacked everyday. Two completely different fronts of the conflict but oh so similar.
Posted by: kilowattkid || 11/10/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#33  [crickets]

Question: is this the real DepotGuy, or is someone nym-stealing again?

I'm beginning to think that you're right, trailing wife.

How are we doing it in Iraq?

Answer; At extreme loss of life to our own soldiers. Thanks to our superbly trained military and splendid technology, our casualties are incredibly low, all things considered. The bad news is that keeping our fatalities this low has required a "hands-off" approach to some of the more significant players like Moqtada Sadr.

Just like the Israelis, we need to risk a few more lives and really take the gloves off in order to snuff our worst foes. I know that this easy for me to say type from the safety and comfort of my own home keyboard, but I'd wager a pretty penny that many of our soldiers would like to get on with things even if it ups our losses a tiny bit.

Both the U.S. and Israel need to stop worrying about "feelings" and take care of business.

Bingo! All this touchy-feely nonsense must end. Faint heart never won fair lady, as the famous kniggit knight said.

kilowattkid, I hope you'll feel free to post more often. I've seen your monicker around here for many years and enjoy your thoughtful contributions.

The gloves need to come off, both for Israel and the United States. Until we show that willpower, the death of a thousand cuts is all that awaits us. We are dealing with an enemy that has no compunctions about violating every single tenet of honorable warfare that has evolved over the last several centuries. As .com would say, enough of this "Order of the Garter" bullshit. We must begin to attrit our enemy in a way that strikes unmistakable dread into their withered hearts.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 20:10 Comments || Top||

#34  Apologies for an extended rant but I watched another sickening “martyrs parade” in Gaza the other night. Complete with seething savages yelling incoherently, teaming to touch the shroud of the tiny grey-blue cadavers. To them they were no longer humans they were only symbols of their rage. And as sappy as it may sound, I got physically ill from the disgusting spectacle. Then this morning I read comments from those that indicated they too didn’t see them as humans but collateral damage or simply future security threats. Clearly, I don’t have the answers but I pray they don’t include behavior that condones wanton waste of innocent life.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 11/10/2006 20:11 Comments || Top||

#35  I got physically ill from the disgusting spectacle.

You're not the only one.

To them they were no longer humans they were only symbols of their rage.

Not to rub any salt in but; Guess what? Living or dead, Palestinian children are only "symbols of their rage". Permit me to quote Golda Meir:

"Peace will come when the Arabs love their children more than they hate us."

DepotGuy, do you have any solutions as to how the Israelis are supposed to delicately sort out those terrorists who are enthusiastically hidden amongst the Palestinian civilian population? I really want to hear your answer.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 20:34 Comments || Top||

#36  I would feel for them but the Pally's made themselves that way and I am sorry I cannot feel for people who worship death.
Posted by: djohn66 || 11/10/2006 20:43 Comments || Top||

#37  I understand your feelings, DepotGuy, truly. My father was there at the beginning of all that, in the 1930s and 1940s. But so long as the Palestinians themselves are eager to position their own children for sacrifice in order to gain the sympathies of that portion of the world which chooses to feel rather than think, Israel can do only so much to prevent those sacrifices. The whole of the Palestinian Territories are one house after another of these set-ups, one mosque after the next packed full of weapons and IEDs, school children running out in the streets to surround the members of "armed wings" aiming Kassem rockets at Israeli schools. You've seen the same uncropped photos as the rest of us, and you know this is so. It isn't the Israelis who are treating Palestinian infants as cannon fodder; it's their own parents and their own society. Get mad at the people who set up things so they can bury 19 victims of their families' deliberate choice to put them in the line of fire.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#38  Simply superb commentary, trailing wife. Permit me to say that you are a credit to the entire human race.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 21:13 Comments || Top||

#39  I stand by my comments. Your stomach is turned, but you refuse to acknowledge the fault. I refuse to apologize for supporting the only democracy in the ME (I'm holding my opinion on Iraq), and a self-defense action that may or may not have made mistakes. You can't use women and children as human shields and storekeepers of terrorist arms caches and then act outraged when they die. The fault lies on ONE side - the death cult Paleos, who continue to target civilians. If they'd stop, the Israelis would have to, as well. Note that the minute the Israelis withdraw, the rockts restart. I'm sorry, but mass destruction is what they are wishing upon themselves, and if you can't see that, I don't see why I should respect your opinion on anything else
Frank
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 22:23 Comments || Top||

#40  One last thing:
Next time you get the vapors over one of your Uncle Leo anti-Semitism stories your so fond of, remember how easy it is for even you to de-humanize others, including children, to justify innocent slaughter

WTF are you talking about???? Uncle Leo? That was some wierd shit and says more about you than me, I'd conjecture....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 22:27 Comments || Top||

#41  Zenster dear, you hold entirely too high an opinion of me. Frank G, razor sharp as usual.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 23:58 Comments || Top||


Three-Front Top-Level Security Alert
by Hillel Fendel and Yechiel Spira

With Israel Police on its highest alert status nationwide in preparation for possible violence on at least three fronts, no major incidents have been recorded as of 1:30 PM.

Police were on the highest alert status Friday, in anticipation of expected protests by Muslim worshipers after Temple Mount prayers against this week’s Beit Hanoun artillery mishap. Police also feared possible violent protests in opposition to the gay pride event held in the Givat Ram Stadium in the capital.

On a third front, the gravest and most wide-ranging, police around the country were on high alert following open threats of a resumption of suicide attacks by Fatah and Hamas terrorist leaders.

Police Chief Moshe Karadi placed his entire department on the emergency status, with an emphasis on Green Line perimeter areas, the Jerusalem envelope area and the capital. Intelligence community officials report over 80 general terror warnings, including 20 specific warnings of planned attacks.

Some 3,000 policemen were assigned to the Givat Ram homosexual event, but were left mostly idle. The event's organizers agreed yesterday to cancel their march and replace it with a closed stadium event - and the religious protestors agreed to tone down their protests to next-to-nothing.

Isolated clashes between members of the opposing camps, including one in which several homosexuals insisted on marching in public, were easily dealt with by police. Several anti-march protestors were arrested, allegedly with weapons in their possession.

Close to 3,500 buses had been reserved to bring hundreds of thousands of religious protestors to the capital. The protest leaders asked for the release of those arrested in this week's anti-march violence, as well as a promise for no homosexual event next year. Jerusalem Police Chief Ilan Franco said that no deal had been made, and that "nothing of significance" had been promised the religious leaders.

The police were also focusing on expected Arab protests against this week's attack in northern Gaza in which 19 Gazans were killed when Israeli anti-Kassam artillery fire went awry.

The Arab High Monitoring Committee met on Thursday in Be’er Sheva, and the Israeli-Arab leadership announced a protest rally against the Beit Hanoun incident to be held Friday afternoon in Nazareth. Simultaneous protests were expected around the country, as well as over the weekend.

Police imposed restrictions on today's Temple Mount Moslem prayers, based on intelligence received of planned disturbances. Only males with Israeli identity cards and who are over age 45 were permitted to attend the services, and no Palestinian Authority females were allowed in. The move excluded all PA residents and younger males, in an effort to ward off violence and incitement. In the event, no violence was recorded.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 08:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The queers need to cut it and wait till there is peace. Now's not the time for civil disobedience and moral confrontation.
Posted by: Penguin || 11/10/2006 16:50 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
More details in latest jihadi rampage in southern Thailand
Near-simultaneous bomb attacks on eight car showrooms and motorcycle dealerships in downtown Yala at noon yesterday wounded 13 people and damaging 22 vehicles. Bomb disposal police cordoned off the areas, which were littered with pieces of metal and electronic devices, and disrupted mobile phone signals.

Police said the bombs were planted under car seats by assailants posing as customers inspecting the interior of vehicles. At the motorcycle shops, bombs were hidden in motorbikes parked outside. The showrooms hit were those of Honda, Isuzu and Nissan on Phetkasem Road, Mazda on Ruammitr road, and Ford, Chevrolet and two motorcycle dealers' shops on Siroros road.

The bombs were set by a digital wristwatch to detonate almost simultaneously, police said. Twelve cars and 10 motorcycles were damaged. Wounded victims were taken to Yala Central Hospital for treatment. A sales person at the Honda showroom said a mysterious caller telephoned a few minutes beforehand to warn of the attack and tell people to leave the building.

The attacks are believed to be the work of rebels led by Isma-ae Paju, a suspected mastermind behind the coordinated bomb attacks on 22 banks in Yala on August 31.

Meanwhile, in Narathiwat's Rangae district, a Molotov cocktail was discovered at a car repair garage yesterday morning.

In Pattani's Nong Chik district, a construction businessman identified as Pairote Pornprasit, 49, was shot dead by a motorcycle pillion rider.

In Pattani's Yarang district, Pirom Pinnok, 39, an employee of the Pattani District Highway Office, was gunned down by two assailants while cutting grass on the side of the Pattani-Yala road.

In Kapho district, six gunmen opened fire on a group of security volunteers, who were helping villagers build a house. One volunteer died instantly, while a village headman was seriously wounded. They also took away two M-16 rifles and a pistol from the volunteers before setting fire to the volunteers' car.

Teachers in Pattani called on education institutions to provide for more systematic security measures, and urged local community leaders to be more pro-active in escorting them home. They also asked to be warned of any plan to arrest suspected rebels or move security forces out of their areas, so that they could prepare for possible insurgent attacks.

Interior Minister Aree Wongarya said Islamic teachers could be liable for prosecution if there was firm evidence against them. He said that Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont's vow to stop blacklisting teachers applied to cases lacking in substantiation.
Posted by: ryuge || 11/10/2006 01:52 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Appeasement works said Surayud... or does it?
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/10/2006 2:38 Comments || Top||

#2  only if you hold a white object in your left hand and wave it around frantically twobyfour
Posted by: MacNails || 11/10/2006 5:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Yeah, that coup worked. Leaving them alone in the south has allowed them to do something that we don't do, but get blamed for, genocide.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/10/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Lebanese Troops Deployed In Last Israeli Position In South
The Lebanese army on Thursday began deploying troops in one of the last positions that Israel still occupied in the south of the country after the July war with militant Lebanese Shiite group Hezbollah, the United Nations peacekeeping mission reported. Lebanese troops moved in after the UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNFIL) confirmed that Israel had withdrawn its forces from most of the surrounding area of Ghajar village as agreed upon earlier this week.

Israeli soldiers still remain in the northern part of Ghajar inside Lebanese territory, and in the immediate vicinity of the village, the UN said. The village straddles the line separating the two sides, the only post Israel still holds following its withdrawal from all other positions on 1 October.

The latest Israeli withdrawal and Lebanese deployment followed a meeting on Tuesday between UNIFIL force Commander Major-General Alain Pellegrini with senior officers from both sides.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...while Hezbollah submerges Lebanese sovereignty in the East, with Ayatollah money.
Posted by: Sneaze Shaiting3550 || 11/10/2006 5:55 Comments || Top||


Syria: Former Intelligence Chief's Brother Found Dead
(AKI) - Ali Kanaan, the brother of Syria's former powerful interior minister Ghazi Kanaan, has been found dead near his farm in the coastal city of Jalba. Ghazi Kanaan died last year in an apparent suicide in his office.
The news was announced by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which underlined that Ali's dismembered corpse had been found on the railway lines in the Bustan Bacha area and his car left abandoned nearby.
The news was announced by the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which underlined that Ali's dismembered corpse had been found on the railway lines in the Bustan Bacha area and his car left abandoned nearby.

Based on comments from Kanaan's relative, the Observatory revealed that Ali had been suffering from depression and recently did nothing else but sleep in his house in the country.
Ghazi Kanaan, who was also Syria's intelligence chief, shot himself in the neck in October 2005.
Ghazi Kanaan, who was also Syria's intelligence chief, shot himself in the neck in October 2005 just five months after the US treasury had announced the freezing of his bank accounts, in a bid to financially isolate elements believed to be seeking to destabilise neighbouring countries, in particular Lebanon. His death came in the wake of the February 2005 carbomb murder of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri, for which a UN probe implicated leading Syrian government officials. Kanaan had been questioned by UN investigators shortly before his death.

Syrian president Bashar al-Assad had hinted during a press interview that his minister of the interior was involved in a plot against the regime, in cahoots with forces outside Syria. The former vice president Abd al-Halim Khaddam, who founded the Syrian Salvation Front, had cast doubts on Kanaan's suicide, accusing the secret services of having killed him because "he knew the truth about the murder of former Lebanese premier Rafik Hariri," and other unresolved questions.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  who shoots themselves in the neck? well, maybe Assad, but nobody else....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 6:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Fredo, don't go fishing! Don't go fishing!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/10/2006 10:37 Comments || Top||

#3  the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights

Looking for human rights violations across the universe. Maybe they should hookup with that Ministry of Defence guy?
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/10/2006 10:46 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: BigEd || 11/10/2006 15:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Colonel Mustard, in the Library, with a dagger!
Posted by: Threger Angegum9602 || 11/10/2006 23:29 Comments || Top||


Happy Birthday, USMC
The Jarines dedicate a bright shiny new museum today down at Quantico.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/10/2006 08:42 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Stay off the table Jarhead.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/10/2006 8:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Happy B-Day! Semper Fi!
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:54 Comments || Top||

#3  No better friend, no worse enemy, than a United States Marine.
Posted by: Mike || 11/10/2006 9:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Oo-rah! Happy Birthday, Marines.
Posted by: Rambler || 11/10/2006 9:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Happy birthday, USMC!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 9:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Happy 231st, Marines!
USMC '60-'64
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger1073 || 11/10/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||

#7  Oh yes, going to the Ball tonight. Will definitely eat some cake then tie one on! 231 years young.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 11/10/2006 10:22 Comments || Top||

#8  I believe modest consumption of alcoholic beverages is called for.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/10/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#9  I'm sure wherever my father and father in law are, they are knocking down a few. Semper Fi, Bud and Charlie...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/10/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#10  Semper Fi, dudes. Party on today if ya can.
Posted by: wxjames || 11/10/2006 11:02 Comments || Top||

#11  Not as lean, not as mean, but always a Marine! '58-'69

SEMPER FI!!!!
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/10/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#12  A huge HAPPY BIRTHDAY and heartfelt gratitude to those who are "First in harm's way." To all US Marines, past and present, you have my deepest thanks for defending our precious freedom. Bless every single one of you.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 11:19 Comments || Top||

#13  May I offer you each a cup of tea and a scone in appreciation? ;-) Happy Birthday!
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/10/2006 11:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Happy birthday, USMC!

May God bless and protect our brave Marines.
Posted by: mrp || 11/10/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#15  Happy Birthday, Marines!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 12:04 Comments || Top||

#16  Happy Birthday, Jarines!

The pic captures Chesty's spirit - but it looks more like Halsey... ;-)
Posted by: .com || 11/10/2006 12:18 Comments || Top||

#17  Semper Fi and Happy Birthday
68-75
Posted by: JustAboutEnough || 11/10/2006 13:03 Comments || Top||

#18  After 9/11 I found out I was too old to join. God Bless all of you who thought of it earlier!
Posted by: Unique Battle || 11/10/2006 13:21 Comments || Top||

#19  Smedley Butler -The greatest Marine ever.

Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye," was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history. Butler was awarded the Medal of Honor twice during his career, one of only 19 people to be awarded the medal twice.

Good night Chesty Puller, where ever you are.

Quotes from Chesty:

"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time."
"We’re surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them" [2]
"Remember, you are the 1st Marines! Not all the Communists in Hell can overrun you!"
"Take me to the Brig. I want to see the real Marines."
"Alright you bastards, try and shoot me!" (to Korean forces)
"Where do you put the bayonet?" (upon seeing a flamethrower for the first time)

You got to believe a guy with 5 Navy Crosses.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 11/10/2006 14:48 Comments || Top||

#20  Happy birthday, USMC. With regard to drinking yeast piss alcohol: all things in moderation, including moderation, heh.

My dad served with Chesty on Guadalcanal, Cape Gloucester, and Peleliu. He always looked up to him. Another Marine I always admired was Gen. Archie Vandegrift, who got a Medal of Honor for superb leadership above and beyond the call of duty, during those dark days at Guadalcanal and Henderson Field.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/10/2006 15:22 Comments || Top||

#21  Happy B-Day Marines...u-rah!
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 11/10/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#22  I just gave some money to Soldier's Angels, for Project Valour IT. They need to raise the money by tomorrow, for voice-activated laptops for our wounded men & women. I hope some other Rantburgers will join me!
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/10/2006 16:15 Comments || Top||

#23  Let me add my voice and appreciation, Happy Birthay Marines.
Posted by: USN,Ret || 11/10/2006 17:57 Comments || Top||

#24  Happy 231st Marines! Semper Fi! And may there be at least 231 more!

With you to keep us safe I can certainly hope.

I believe modest consumption of alcoholic beverages is called for.

Modest being a relative term when it comes to Marines and the consumption of alcohol (I know, I've drank with them before - much to my regret the next day).

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 11/10/2006 19:18 Comments || Top||

#25  Semper Fidleis, from the Halls to ths Shores, on the land, in the air and on the sea. Happy 231st Birthday!

USMC 87-95
Posted by: djh_usmc || 11/10/2006 19:56 Comments || Top||

#26  Working with the USMC is the best part of my job. I can't express the admiration that I have for these fine men. I am in awe of them on a routine basis. I wish I had been smart enough to make the right decision and joined after college.

Happy birthday USMC. My thanks for all that you do.
Posted by: Remoteman || 11/10/2006 21:58 Comments || Top||

#27  Seafarious, good on you: I hit IT-Valour for $100 for the Army
Posted by: Frank G || 11/10/2006 22:11 Comments || Top||

#28  Good catch, Seafarious, on Project Valor IT. I gave some moolah to 'em and also some to Fred.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/10/2006 22:22 Comments || Top||


Good morning...
Dumped by text? Britney's ex joins growing clubSyria: Former Intelligence Chief's Brother Found DeadUS Rejects UN Resolutions on Gaza Violence as One-SidedDogs, helicopters fail to find bomber's accompliceNexen denies Yemen facility damaged by bombingNATO raid kills up to 22 34 Taleban in Afghan south150,000 Iraqis Killed by InsurgentsIslam: Athens To Have Its First Mosque
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Moo!
Posted by: Mike || 11/10/2006 8:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmm... I was kinda hoping for a more interesting picture today.

Yesterday I hit 95 pounds lost. Chances are I won't hit 100 before the end of the year, but you can't tell...
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 11/10/2006 8:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Celebrate diversity! And then surrender to your local imam.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||

#4  BTW: That's in reference to the Athenian Mosque, not the babe with Bessy.
Posted by: Lancasters Over Dresden || 11/10/2006 8:29 Comments || Top||

#5  95? Hellacious Rob.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/10/2006 8:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Yesterday I hit 95 pounds lost. Chances are I won't hit 100 before the end of the year, but you can't tell...

Good for you! In comparison, I've put on about 35 lbs of extra fat in one summer and one winter, over the last couple years. But then again, I'm a depressed slug.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/10/2006 8:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Keep up the good work, Rob. Congrats!
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#8  Congrats, Rob.
Posted by: Fred || 11/10/2006 14:07 Comments || Top||

#9  I'll take 'em both. I haven't milked a cow in more than 40 years, but it's like riding a bicycle - you never forget. The other one will be much simpler...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/10/2006 16:04 Comments || Top||

#10  The other one will be much simpler...

Although I might take exception as to which one is more like "riding a bicycle", I'll still opt to include you as one of the last few red-blooded males, Old Patriot.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/10/2006 22:13 Comments || Top||



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