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2009-06-17 China-Japan-Koreas
U.S. to Confront, Not Board, North Korean Ships
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Posted by Steve White 2009-06-17 00:00|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6487 views ]  Top

#1 The resolution authorizes nations to seek to stop suspect North Korean shipments on the high seas, but they do not authorize forcible boarding or inspections.

Nice little nuanced wording there. Seek out the enemy and request that he cooperates. Gum them to death. Brilliant. Just brilliant. We're becoming EUniks, thanks to the Big O.
Posted by Alaska Paul in Thorne Bay, AK 2009-06-17 01:52||   2009-06-17 01:52|| Front Page Top

#2 In discussing President Obama's strategy on Monday, administration officials said that the United States would report any ship that refused inspection to the Security Council.

Some "strategy". Why even waste the time or the resources?
Posted by tu3031 2009-06-17 11:35||   2009-06-17 11:35|| Front Page Top

#3 Mr. Capone, may we inspect your warehouse for contraband?

No. Now go away or I shall be forced to taunt you.
Posted by ed 2009-06-17 12:00||   2009-06-17 12:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Go ahead, talk 'em to death! Every day in port costs the Nork shipping companies tens of thousands of dollars. Hold 'em up a couple of weeks, and whatever cargo they're carrying now becomes a liability, whether it's missile-related or not. Do this to every ship that leaves North Korea, and you'll bleed them to death.

Even a BAD policy can be turned to the good if you can find a way to turn it to your advantage.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2009-06-17 12:02||]">[]  2009-06-17 12:02|| Front Page Top

#5 Anybody got a couple of attack subs they're not really using?
Posted by mojo 2009-06-17 12:37||   2009-06-17 12:37|| Front Page Top

#6 Folks, I don't think you see the subtle play here.

A Nork ship can't sail to Syria without stopping. They have fuel up somewhere, perhaps two or three times. Each time they do it's an opportunity for us to get the authorities at that port to do an inspection.

Now the port authorities don't have to listen to us. But perhaps we could, you know, 'persuade' them. And then it's India, or Yemen, or Bangladesh, or whoever, who's doing the inspecting.

It's subtle. It gives us options and introduces more uncertainty for the Norks -- will a given country let them fuel their ship without asking questions, or will they start opening packing crates?

I personally would prefer a Nork ship loaded with missile parts to disappear quietly at sea. Sorry Kimmie, but that was one hell of a cyclone, didn't you get the weather report? Too bad what happened to your ship.

But I don't see that happening just yet, so this is an interesting play, IF our State Department, CIA and National Security team will play the game hard.
Posted by Steve White 2009-06-17 13:05||   2009-06-17 13:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Mk48 "cyclone" can be pretty rough weather for any ship, especially a piece of junk Nork MS.
Posted by OldSpook 2009-06-17 13:10||   2009-06-17 13:10|| Front Page Top

#8 Steve W., suppose the fueling port says to the NORKS: "No boardee, no fuelee." I wonder what the range on the Nork ships is before they require fueling. I wonder what the UN Security Council resolution says. I don't see the UN having the cajones to deny fuel.
Posted by JohnQC 2009-06-17 13:31||   2009-06-17 13:31|| Front Page Top

#9 theoretically, the Norks could send along a tanker, couldnt they, and refuel at sea. Thats pretty costly for ordinary commerce though. It would pretty much mark a shipment as high priority.
Posted by liberal hawk 2009-06-17 14:44||   2009-06-17 14:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Lotsa room in cargo ships for extra fuel tanks.
Posted by ed 2009-06-17 14:48||   2009-06-17 14:48|| Front Page Top

#11 China, once a close cold war ally

Seriously, how does the media get away with howlers like this? An ally? A close ally? Detente, certainly - inspired by a common opposition to the Soviets and nothing more.

And as for China implementing the resolution - the journalist might want to look at a map, a North Korean ship won't need to refuel in China because they're RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.
Posted by gromky 2009-06-17 17:11||   2009-06-17 17:11|| Front Page Top

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