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2009-05-29 Economy

$56,000 a year entry level, no education needed jobs "Gone with the Wind"

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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2009-05-29 09:37|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 $14 an hour, eh? I thought Toyota was paying their guys $20.

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2009-05-29 10:26|| 2009-05-29 10:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Pay is commensurate to skill. If your job can be replaced by a robot, you deserve less then $14 an hour.

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2009-05-29 10:32|| 2009-05-29 10:32|| Front Page Top

#3 This has actually been going on for some time. I do know that Chrysler was bringing in temps at greatly reduced wages and NO bennies to cover the shortfalls in vacation schedules. They could keep them for up to 60 days then they were required to hire (the standard probationary period was 60 days but health care did not kick in for one year). Amazingly they all got let go at around 56 days. And then got brought back in.

Posted by Cheaderhead 2009-05-29 11:18|| 2009-05-29 11:18|| Front Page Top

#4 Amazingly they all got let go at around 56 days. And then got brought back in.

Sorta like ACORN ~~serfs~~ workers.

Posted by Procopius2k 2009-05-29 11:35|| 2009-05-29 11:35|| Front Page Top

#5 The base rate for an experienced Toyota USA production worker is about $26 an hour, as I recall. Health care and other benefits push that into the low 40s. For the UAW it was about $28 and low 70s by the time you figured in their better benefits.

$14 is for an entry level worker; if they stick they get moved up.

If the UAW had been smart they would have, a couple years back, offered the Big 3 a deal: we keep our base pay and most of our benefits, our retirees keep most of theirs, and in turn we eliminate all the work rules not directly related to safety, and we give up the 'job bank'.

That just might have saved the situation then.

Posted by Steve White 2009-05-29 11:49|| 2009-05-29 11:49|| Front Page Top

#6 I've just thought up this thing I call "E Koh Nom Icks"

It reckons that price controls create shortages and artificially upping wages creates unemployment.

Do you think it will catch on?

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2009-05-29 11:52|| 2009-05-29 11:52|| Front Page Top

#7 I'm searching for my nanoviolin - really, I am.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2009-05-29 12:24|| 2009-05-29 12:24|| Front Page Top

#8 Wow! For once I agree with the Zero administration, make the big three competitive. Of course the UAW will blame the cuts on big brother government. This will get interseting, workers pay cut by the Dems. Oportunity knocks for the GOP, lets see if they can play this one.

Posted by 49 Pan 2009-05-29 12:31|| 2009-05-29 12:31|| Front Page Top

#9 A big problem I see is that Ford is competing with 2 federally backed entities. Support your Non-Federally funded auto maker.

Posted by tipover 2009-05-29 12:55|| 2009-05-29 12:55|| Front Page Top

#10 Among liberals, there is this idea that jobs create themselves, and that good things can be simply brought into existence with the wave of a legislative wand. This particular illusion has been exceptionally long-lived.

Of course, there is one part of me that says if a megacorp is making megabucks, then the workers who create that value should receive benefits. If the market will pay $14/hour for your job, and yet you're creating something worth $100/hour, I don't agree that all that money should go towards the executives. And don't give me any B.S. about stockholder dividends, everyone knows those are a waste of the company's money.

Posted by gromky 2009-05-29 13:11|| 2009-05-29 13:11|| Front Page Top

#11 About EFFING time!

Posted by Angeatle Sproing9224 2009-05-29 13:20|| 2009-05-29 13:20|| Front Page Top

#12 Pay is commensurate to skill. If your job can be replaced by a robot, you deserve less then ~~$14 an hour~~ .18 per kilowatt hour.

Posted by bigjim-ca 2009-05-29 13:29|| 2009-05-29 13:29|| Front Page Top

#13 WHAT? I thought the UAW now owned 65% of GM.

They trying to make sure that NO "Young upstarts", get on "THEIR' Gravy train

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-05-29 13:33|| 2009-05-29 13:33|| Front Page Top

#14 #7: I'm searching for my nanoviolin - really, I am. Posted by: Barbara Skolaut|

I found mine, Barbara, but the F-string is broken. I plan to replace it when I win the lottery. Nanoviolin strings are EXPENSIVE!

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2009-05-29 14:43|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2009-05-29 14:43|| Front Page Top

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