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2007-06-08 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Feds to Suspend Border Passport Rule
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Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-06-08 01:10|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [1251 views ]  Top

#1 Why do people think they can enter the country without proof of citizenship during time of war? These bozos deserve to be put through the ICE mill if they come back with only a driver's license.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-06-08 08:17||   2007-06-08 08:17|| Front Page Top

#2 I saw this coming a mile away, back when it was first decided. Years ago, before 9-11, getting a passport, a service with a fixed, known demand, took 2-3 months, due to a perpetual bureaucratic backlog.

Suddenly, the same bureaucracy was told that 4-5 million extra people were going to need passports, and all at the same time, but giving no extra assets to the bureaucracy to generate them.

Surprise, it can't be done.

I suspect that it will be "temporarily suspended" until Bush leaves office, then it will be quietly dropped. Mostly because it horribly clogs the major Canadian and Mexican crossings. A bunch of people cross there four or five times a day, living on one side and working on the other.

On top of everything else, a passport now costs $100 for an adult and $85 for a child, including the pictures. Not a whole lot of people are happy about having to shell out $400 for their family to do something that was not only previously free, but almost as secure, if you had other ID, like your driver's license.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-06-08 08:33||   2007-06-08 08:33|| Front Page Top

#3 Suddenly, the same bureaucracy was told that 4-5 million extra people were going to need passports, and all at the same time, but giving no extra assets to the bureaucracy to generate them.

Surprise, it can't be done.


Just like the same idgets who tried to sell us they could process 12 million illegals in two years and do 'real' background checks.

More and more the beltway is becoming NeverNeverland with phantom bureaucrats to the process paper, phantom investigators to do background checks, phantom border guards to man the border, phantom walls to reduce the flow of humanity over our frontiers, phantom funding to pay for it all, etc, etc, etc.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-06-08 08:52||   2007-06-08 08:52|| Front Page Top

#4 Procopius2k: And as the result, we have "phantom security" at the border. The politicians don't get it. Voters are screaming for border security and immigration enforcement. The beltway is just playing a bunch of phantom games that have no connection with reality. They live in some kind of unreal vacuum. It is about cheap labor and cheap votes. If Kennedy's immigration bill had been passed, the Republican Party would have been destroyed. We would have had a one party system as the immigrant vote would have gone to the dhimmicrats. I don't know what the trunks were thinking or if they were. Maybe Bush traded Iraq funding for immigration bill support.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-06-08 10:24||   2007-06-08 10:24|| Front Page Top

#5 They need to change from all or nothing release 0.02 laws and switch to a release/engineered/process oriented law process.

Then you would have border law 0.7 move up eventually to 1.0 followed by point releases until you decide to do a partial rewrite of the engine (leaving the features essentially the same) for 2.0 followed by 2.1 etc...
Odd point releases can be test releases even actual.

Or is true process beyond the brain power of the idiots in congress and the senate?
Posted by Bob Ulinens6935 2007-06-08 10:52||   2007-06-08 10:52|| Front Page Top

#6 Years ago, before 9-11, getting a passport, a service with a fixed, known demand, took 2-3 months, due to a perpetual bureaucratic backlog.

I don't know what you're talking about, but I got my passport in 10 days. Went to the passport office at the DFW Airport USPS Facility, paid my money, had my picture taken, provided proof of citizenship (birth certificate) and viola! Passport, 10 days.

It can be done. Get rid of the dipsh*ts that infest our government agencies, from management to the lowest seat warmers and hire good people.
Posted by Natural Law 2007-06-08 11:13||   2007-06-08 11:13|| Front Page Top

#7 Bob Ima worried about you.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-06-08 11:15||   2007-06-08 11:15|| Front Page Top

#8 :) Bob may be a stand-in for Joseph M. who WRITES LIKE = THIS IN HIS COMMENTS.
Posted by JohnQC 2007-06-08 11:34||   2007-06-08 11:34|| Front Page Top

#9 Bob, is Joe's macro script writer. I'm pretty sure he wrote Muck's transliteration compiler too.

I don't know what you're talking about, but I got my passport in 10 days. Went to the passport office at the DFW Airport USPS Facility, paid my money, had my picture taken, provided proof of citizenship (birth certificate) and viola! Passport, 10 days.

It can be done. Get rid of the dipsh*ts that infest our government agencies, from management to the lowest seat warmers and hire good people.


End of story, Natural Law. Did the same thing years ago, got mine in about a week. Any smart American always has a valid passport at the ready. Too many people are untraveled and sufficiently unworldly to where they do not understand the importance of having a valid passport at hand. This is an example of poor planning all the way around. It's just that the people in government are paid to foresee this sort of crap.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2007-06-08 12:34||   2007-06-08 12:34|| Front Page Top

#10 Heh, My caps-lock brother is know that god doesn't listen to lower case.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-06-08 12:53||   2007-06-08 12:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Hee hee ummm... maybe thisn outabounds...

but Muck4Doo is Bossman running the AlGoreOilCompany it's a damn hoot.
Posted by Shipman">Shipman  2007-06-08 12:59||   2007-06-08 12:59|| Front Page Top

#12 Back on topic: WA state has a plan that has been endorsed by the Feds for crossing into Canade. it is an 'enhanced driver's license' and while i haven't read all the details, it allows us mossbacks to go North without the $100 passport fiasco. and there is something similiar in the works with the Canadian gov't.
The cynic in me tells me that about the time this is going to kick off, there will be a major bureaucratic train wreck and we will have to start all over.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2007-06-08 13:06||   2007-06-08 13:06|| Front Page Top

#13 Back in the day I got my Passport in 1 day. At the Thomas P. O'Neill building in Boston. Unfortunately it expired. I have been waiting for my new passport for over 3 months.
Posted by Black Charlie Theper8518 2007-06-08 13:11||   2007-06-08 13:11|| Front Page Top

#14 
Rep. Wilson (R-NM) said she had been calling on State and Homeland Security to implement a suspension for two weeks.

"I said, 'You need to take action. This is completely screwed up'," she said. "To say people must have a passport to travel and not give people a passport is right up there in the stupid column."
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2007-06-08 13:24||   2007-06-08 13:24|| Front Page Top

#15 Oh, and forget the "enhanced security" of a passport. Not only are the RFID chips in it low security, but they can be detected by anyone with a hand scanner within 15(?) feet, and replicated.

On top of everything else, even if your RFID chip doesn't work, it does not invalidate the passport!

I've seen a website on how to safely destroy your RFID without damaging the rest of the passport.
Posted by Anonymoose 2007-06-08 14:15||   2007-06-08 14:15|| Front Page Top

#16 My first reaction to reading Bob U's comment was, "Is this .com?" He makes sense to me.
Posted by Classical_Liberal 2007-06-08 15:51||   2007-06-08 15:51|| Front Page Top

#17 "Allah's Snackbar!"
-- Any member of Hezbollah who can now cross the border with confidence.

Posted by eLarson 2007-06-08 16:32|| http://larsonian.blogspot.com]">[http://larsonian.blogspot.com]  2007-06-08 16:32|| Front Page Top

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