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Afghanistan
Taliban Navy Loses Troop Transport
Boat filled with Taliban sinks; 60 dead

KABUL, Afghanistan - A boat crossing a river in Afghanistan's most dangerous province sank on Saturday, and at least 60 people were killed, including Taliban militants, the Defense Ministry said.
Overloaded? Poorly maintained? Ran into a large piece of descending ordnance? 'Work accident'?
while crossing the Helmand River, which snakes through Helmand province, the world's leading opium poppy region and site of fierce battles the last several months. Hundreds of Taliban insurgents are believed to be in Helmand.

The Afghan army was investigating to see how many Taliban insurgents and how many civilians were on board, the ministry said.
Why would civilians be traveling on the same riverboat with 'insurgents'? Because they are the 'camp followers' - the Taliban equivalent of the logistical 'tail', and as such are not truly civilians. The only other answer is they were human shields.
Holy men needs lots of camp followers. Keeps them holy, and besides, they can wash the turbans.
Elsewhere, suspected Taliban militants attacked a local police commander's home, killing five of his family members and sparking a gunbattle with police that left 10 insurgents dead, an official said. The attack in the southeastern province of Ghazni killed the commander's wife, two sons and two nephews, ...
Different tribes as well as different 'sides'? If so, what are the relative strengths of the tribes?
... said Interior Ministry spokesman Zemeri Bashary. The commander worked for Afghanistan's auxiliary police, a system of backup officers who supplement the country's regular police force.

Taliban militants often target police and government officials. More than 1,900 people have been killed in insurgency-related violence in Afghanistan this year, according to an Associated Press count based on U.S., NATO and Afghan officials.
Maybe only a couple of hundred people, and 1700 Taliban?
At a rally in Pakistan, a man described as the Taliban's new top field commander ...
If he's the 'field' commander, what's he doing in Pakistan?
Getting up to speed ...
... vowed in an audiotaped message to liberate Afghanistan from "American slavery," said Abdul Sattar Chishti, the cleric who organized the event. Chishti said more than 12,000 people listened to the speech by the brother of Mullah Dadullah, the top Taliban commander who was killed in a U.S. operation last month in southern Afghanistan.
Another missed opportunity of a target-rich envronment.
He said Dadullah Mansoor vowed to avenge his brother's death and those of others killed while fighting U.S., NATO and Afghan forces. "The blood of my brother will never go waste. We will never forget his sacrifices, and the role of other martyrs. We will complete Dadullah's mission by expelling Americans and liberating Afghanistan," Chishti quoted Mansoor as saying.

It was not immediately possible to verify Chishti's claims about the rally at Killi Nalai, a village about 45 miles west of Quetta near the Afghan border. Although pro-Taliban elders have held similar rallies in northwestern tribal regions, protests the size of the one organized in Killi Nalai are rare.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/02/2007 08:23 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They sank the TS Insh'Allah, ya say? Good-Oh!! Proving again that Archimedes' principles of bouyancy transcend all religions.

*TS = Taliban Ship
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 06/02/2007 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, if the US didn't sink the boat, there probably weren't any civilians (or puppies or fluffy bunnies).

Next time, have Ted Kennedy drive them across.
Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds || 06/02/2007 11:11 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey, I just had a brilliant idea. Let's teach the Afghan poppy farmers to grow gum arabic! OK, so we'll have to heavily subsidize them for a while, but it'll be cheaper than hunting down the poppy smugglers.

*AND* it'll impoverish the Sudanese.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/02/2007 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I'd guess overload. A boat that can safely transport 60 people with their stuff, and the crew, would be pretty big.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/02/2007 13:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Dang Ima realize this is like the Austrian Navy. I'd insert Von Troop pic here only I can't find it.

/sound of money
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 17:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Sat "chishti" as fast as you can 10 times - by the end you'll be saying "shitty shitty shitty..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/02/2007 18:51 Comments || Top||

#7  60 of the worthless bastards drowned (which is a pretty frightening, not-too-quick death)?

Awwwwwwwww - ain't that just too bad.

It's a start....

[Say, can we provide then some more sabotaged "naval troop transports"? On the QT, of course.... :-D]
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/02/2007 21:35 Comments || Top||

#8  The Taliban has a navy?
Posted by: Raj || 06/02/2007 8:48 Comments || Top||

#9  Abu McHale
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 9:30 Comments || Top||

#10  It used to.
Posted by: Mike || 06/02/2007 9:30 Comments || Top||

#11  Typical Muzzie incompetence.
No life jackets? No instructions?
Oh well "Allah will provide'. (Enough water for all.)
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/02/2007 9:55 Comments || Top||

#12  AirForce is damn good, Army is excellent, but don't never, never, ever, ever, ever fuck around with boats. The USN is like own you from day 1.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 9:55 Comments || Top||

#13  Been there, done that, out now,
seen all the sea I care to see.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/02/2007 9:58 Comments || Top||


27 militants killed in Afghanistan fighting
Clashes involving NATO and Afghan troops against Taliban fighters in Afghanistan killed 27 militants, two civilians, one NATO soldier and one member of Afghan police, officials said on Friday.

A soldier from NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) was killed and three wounded in eastern Afghanistan, ISAF said in a statement, reported the Associated Press.

In the southern fight, NATO troops as well as Afghan police and soldiers, battled Taliban fighters in the Zhari district of Kandahar province for three hours, leaving 20 Taliban dead, said Khairuddin Khan, Zhari district chief. A Taliban commander called Mullah Naqibullah was among those killed, Khan said. Neither NATO nor Afghan forces suffered any casualties, he added. ISAF’s press office said it had no immediate information about the clash.

In the east, Taliban fighters attacked the home of a police official in Zurmat district of Paktia province late on Thursday, said Ghulam Dastagir, deputy provincial police chief. Police reinforcements were called in, sparking a battle that left six Taliban dead and seven injured, he added. Five rockets were fired from the top of a mountain in Kunar province, hitting several civilian homes and killing two women, said provincial police chief Abdul Jalal Jalal. Five more civilians were injured. In Khost province, small bombs exploded before dawn on Friday outside the houses of six government officials and a man working as a translator for the US military, said Wazir Pacha, a police spokesman. No one was hurt.

Violence has increased around Afghanistan the last several weeks. More than 1,800 people have died in insurgency-related violence this year, according an Associated Press count based on US, NATO and Afghan statements.

According to AFP, insurgents also attacked a police post in Nuristan province, sparking a gun battle that killed a policeman and a militant and wounded four police, provincial governor Tamim Nuristani said. The US-led coalition also announced the arrest of a Taliban sub-commander and bomb-maker in the south of the country. It said the man, Haji Salam, had also been involved in suicide attacks in the southern province of Ghazni.

Meanwhile, Reuters reported that despite the loss of a NATO Chinook helicopter this week with seven soldiers on board, a British-led offensive to drive the Taliban from strongholds in Helmand province is yielding success, Western military officers said.

A force of 2,000 troops launched the operation two days ago to trap Taliban militants north of the Sangin Valley and in the Kajaki dam region, officials said. Securing the area around the Kajaki dam, a key hydroelectric project that could bring power to hundreds of thousands of poor Afghans, is a key objective, because officials hope a turbine can be transported to the area this summer for a power project that could improve electricity for almost 2 million Afghans.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Police raid foils bomb attack in Mogadishu
(SomaliNet) The district commissioner in Hamar-Weyne neighborhood, south of Mogadishu, Somalia capital said on Friday that the district’s security forces have carried out wider security operation for the last 24 hours foiling an attempt of bomb attack.

In a news conference held today in Hamar-Weyne, the district commissioner Abdulahi Ibrahim Sahal said the security raid was successful as the soldiers prevented acts to jeopardize stability.

“Yesterday the police in the district have spotted armed suspected men dressed in military uniform who wanted to launch an attack on the police station but failed. The attackers escaped unharmed,” said Ibrahim.

He urged the people in Hamar-Weyne to work with the police to prevent against any acts that might destabilize the situation.

Mr. Ibrahim asked the regional authority in Banadir to help him ensure the security denying the escalation of insecurity in Hamar-Weyne.

The move by the police in Hamar-Weyne came after the Mayor of Mogadishu Mohamed Omar Habeb ‘Mohamed Dhere’ scolded the district commissioners in the capital for negligence towards security the stability.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Weapons intercepted in southern Somalia
(SomaliNet) A lorry carrying ammunitions and weapons to the southern port city of Kismayu in Somalia have reportedly been intercepted by the government forces in Bulo-Gadud village, some miles away to Kismayu, 500km south of Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia.

Security sources say that the forces at the Bulo-gadud check point found illegal weapons on the truck after searching the onboard belongings. They arrested the driver and confiscated the truck.

A local official said the lorry was heading to Kismayu where there is still a conflict between two clans in Darod tribe within the transitional government.

If the weapons confiscation confirmed, it would fuel the conflict in the region between the clans over the control of Kismayu city.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


DC killed in southern Mogadishu
(SomaliNet) The district commissioner of Howl-Wadaag neighborhood in southern Somalia capital Mogadishu has been shot dead on late Friday – as the organized killings against the government officials increased in the capital in the past four weeks.

Witnesses told Somalinet this evening that three unknown men armed with pistols killed Hassan Farey from close rage as he was coming out of a mosque around 6:25 pm local time. Reports say that the attackers have escaped unharmed as the body of the killed district commissioner was taken away by his relatives. Shortly after the shooting, the government security forces reached the area sealing off all roads and started door to door search to find suspects. No one has been arrested for the latest killing so far.

He is the fourth district commissioner killed in Mogadishu since the arrival of the transitional government in Mogadishu early this year. On Wednesday, armed men had similarly killed the commander of the security intelligence in Hamar-Weyne district as he was on his duty.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A Howl[wadaag]ing good time.
Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds || 06/02/2007 11:12 Comments || Top||


US Navy strikes al-Qaeda suspect in Somalia
THE US military launched a strike against a suspected al Qaeda target in northern Somalia on Friday, CNN reported.

A US Navy destroyer targeted the suspect from off the coast of the African nation, the cable news network said, citing unidentified sources. The destroyer's guns appeared to be targeting a single person, perhaps moving in a convoy, according to the report. The target was a suspect in the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, CNN said. There was no information about the results of the attack, it said.

The United States launched air strikes in Somalia in January targeting three top al Qaeda suspects but killing their allies instead, US officials have said. Those suspects also were wanted for the embassy bombings, which killed 240 people.
Posted by: Gromogum Elmereter5708 and Sherry || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  60 caliber is all right, but I prefer 16-inch. Even better would be GMLRS launchers firing off a full salvo, accompanied by a half-dozen Navy jets dropping napalm. We'd need some kind of recce bird in place to verify the secondaries.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/02/2007 12:35 Comments || Top||

#2  More info
Posted by: tipper || 06/02/2007 12:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Wonder if the navy has UAVs to act as foward spotters on destroyers. They used to do that on the big BB's
Posted by: N guard || 06/02/2007 13:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Didn't know you could snipe with five inch guns.

How the hell else are you supposed go after Rosie?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 16:46 Comments || Top||

#5  For affeciandoes.... check the picture for coke-bottle shapery 15 years before the AF figured it out.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 17:50 Comments || Top||

#6  THE US military launched a strike against a suspected al Qaeda target in northern Somalia on Friday...

Why? Because it is the right thing to do. Ninety percent of the articles posted at Rantburg have to do with the evil that mooselims are unleashing on the world. Most of the evil occurring in the world has islam at its root.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/02/2007 18:20 Comments || Top||

#7  They claim to love death, so let Uncle love 'em all to death...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/02/2007 19:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Taking care of the Muzzies, something Clinton and Reagan both refused to do. Go get em boys!
Posted by: Icerigger || 06/02/2007 21:10 Comments || Top||

#9  "The destroyer's guns appeared to be targeting a single person, perhaps moving in a convoy..."

Didn't know you could snipe with five inch guns.
Posted by: Clineth Dingle3899 || 06/02/2007 3:47 Comments || Top||

#10  Sure. 60 calibers of love. And to answer a query from yesterday, yeah it's the biggest left in the inventory.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 6:52 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
18 killed in ''crossfire'' last month
Gitcher scorecards here! Can't tell your Biplobis witout'cher scorecards!
At least 30 people were reported killed by the law enforcing agencies in the month of May this year. Of them, 14 were killed by RAB, 10 by police, one by joint forces, one by Navy, one by jail police and three by joint actions of RAB and police. Out of the 30 people, 18 were killed in ''crossfire'', five were tortured to death and seven were the victims of police firing, according to a press release issued by Odhikar on Friday.

Of those 30 people who were reported killed by law enforcing agencies, 13 were killed in crossfire by RAB. One was reportedly tortured to death by RAB. It has also been reported that two persons were killed by police ''crossfire'' and one died due to police torture, seven were also apparently shot dead by them. One was reportedly tortured to death by Navy, another one by joint forces and one by jail police while three others were tortured to death by RAB and police jointly.

It was also reported that of the 30 people, one from the Awami League, two from Purbo Banglar Communist Party (Jonojuddho), two from Purbo Banglar Communist Party, two from Purbo Banglar Communist Party (Red Flag), one from Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal (JSD), two from Gono Mukti Fouz (GMF) and one was reported as an extremist.
And not a single Islamicist.
Apart from the above, others reported killed including one farmer, a female garments worker and a housewife.

Between 01-31 May, it has also been reported that a total of 10 people died in jail custody. Among them, one died allegedly as a result of torture by jail police, one died due to clash between the prisoners and eight died due to illness. Moreover, eight political activists were reportedly killed and 33 were injured in May.

The report, which covers the human rights situation all over the country, also shows that five journalists were injured and two detained by the law enforcing agencies and 31 along with acting director of Odhikar was threatened during the month of May. In addition, one press office and a press organisation were also threatened during the period.

A total of 43 women were reportedly victims of human rights violations due to dowry or raped or victims of acid violence last month. Among them, a total of 19 women were reported victims of dowry related violence. Of them, 15 were killed and four tortured. A total of 12 women were allegedly victims of rape. Among them, five were killed after being raped and five were the victims of gang rape. However, 12 women were the victims of acid attack in the reported period.

Besides, 96 children were reportedly victims of human rights violations. Of them, 30 children were killed. A total of 33 girl children were raped. Of them one was killed after being raped and five were the victims of gang rape. Moreover, four children were the victims of acid attack. However, nine were injured, two abducted, six committed suicide and 12 went missing during this period.

Members of the Indian Border Security Force (BSF) were reported to have killed 10 Bangladeshi nationals in May this year. Two persons were injured and nine reported abducted by BSF.
A total of 275 persons were reported killed throughout the country in May.

Odhikar has prepared this report on the basis of 11 national dailies and its own fact-finding reports, the press release added.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Trinidad Holds 2 in Alleged Terror Plot
PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad (AP) - Two men allegedly involved in a plot to attack New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport were in custody in Trinidad and Tobago on Saturday and the police commissioner said authorities were scouring the Caribbean country for a third suspect still at large.

Trevor Paul, the top police official in the twin-island nation off Venezuela's coast, identified the arrested suspects as Abdul Kadir, 55, a Guyanese Muslim and former member of the South American nation's Parliament, and Kareem Ibrahim, a 56-year-old from Trinidad. Both were arrested on U.S. warrants and are suspected of involvement in a plan to blow up a fuel line feeding the airport, Paul told a news conference. Abdel Nur of Guyana was still being sought in Trinidad, U.S. officials said.

"The FBI did inform the Trinidad law enforcement authorities of the fact that three men were wanted in the U.S. on warrants in connection with a terrorist plot. We have been working with the FBI for some time, but this last request was made yesterday," Paul said. Paul said the two suspects would likely be extradited to the U.S. after court hearings in Trinidad. He did not say when their first court appearance in Port-of-Spain would be.

U.S authorities said Kadir and Nur were longtime associates of a Trinidadian radical Muslim group, Jamaat al Muslimeen, which launched an unsuccessful rebellion in 1990 that left 24 dead.
More rage from the Religion of Pieces™.
"We understand that Kadir is linked to a major organization in Trinidad," Guyanese President Bharrat Jagdeo, who is in Port-of-Spain at a regional agriculture conference, told reporters. He would not disclose further details.

Kadir's wife, Isha Kadir, told The Associated Press that her husband, a Shiite Muslim, is innocent. She said her husband flew from Guyana to Trinidad on Thursday on his way to Venezuela, where he planned to pick up a travel visa to attend an Islamic religious conference in Iran. Kadir was arrested at Trinidad's international airport on Friday after he had boarded a flight to Venezuela, Paul said. "We have no interest in blowing up anything in the U.S," Kadir's wife said. "We have relatives in the U.S."
"We don't what our relatives blown up. The rest of you are on your own," she added.
Posted by: Steve White || 06/02/2007 23:52 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Spain jails 6 on terror charges, frees 6 others
A Spanish judge ordered six people held in jail on provisional charges of belonging to a terrorist group, while freeing six others, the National Court said on Friday.

The 12 were among 16 people - 14 Moroccans and two Algerians - arrested Monday on suspicion of recruiting volunteers for the insurgency in Iraq and other countries. Four were released Tuesday but are still considered suspects.

Besides the six jailed by Judge Baltasar Garzon, four were released on bail of 3,000 (US$4,036) while two were ordered to appear before a court each week.

Abdelaziz Houari Mellas and Mostafa Aztout, two of the six jailed, were alleged to be the leaders of the recruiting cell.

The court said computer material, jihad propaganda and several mobile phones seized during the pre-dawn raids Monday were being investigated. No arms or explosives were discovered.

Police said the operation was connected to one in January 2006 in which 22 people were arrested in raids against jihad-recruitment cells in Spain.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in New York and Washington, Spanish police have arrested hundreds of Islamic terror suspects, many in connection with the 2004 train bombings in Madrid, which killed 191 people.

In recent years, police have focused on cells suspected of recruiting mujahedeen fighters and suicide bombers or for collecting money to finance Al Qaeda and linked groups abroad.

Twenty-nine suspects, most of them Moroccan, are on trial in the Spanish capital for their alleged roles in the train attacks. The attacks were claimed by Islamic radicals to avenge the presence of the country’s troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Home Front: WoT
Report: Feds arrest 3 in alleged JFK airport plot
Three people were arrested and one other was being sought in connection to a plan to set off explosives in a fuel line that feeds John F. Kennedy International Airport and runs through residential neighborhoods, officials close to the investigation said.

Details were to be given out at a 1 p.m. news conference.

The plot, which never got past the planning stages, did not involve airplanes or passenger terminals, according to the two officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the arrests had not yet been announced.

Instead, it focused on a pipeline that takes fuel from a facility in Linden, N.J., to the airport. Other lines service LaGuardia Airport and Newark Liberty International Airport, according to WNBC-TV NewsChannel4’s Jonathan Dienst, who first reported the story.

A third law enforcement official said the suspects include a Guyanese man who used to work at JFK and who was arrested in New York City on Friday night. Two other suspects were apprehended in Trinidad. Investigators are seeking a fourth suspect in Trinidad.

The official said the plotters had conducted surveillance on giant jet fuel tanks at JFK and the Buckeye pipeline that runs from New Jersey to the airport. They had taken surveillance video of the targets and took it to Trinidad to review the tape, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because the arrests were not yet announced.

The official said investigators first found out about the plot in January 2006. After that, an informant infiltrated the group.

“This was the ultimate hand-and-glove operation between NYPD and FBI,” said Rep. Peter King, a Republican from Long Island.
Posted by: tipper || 06/02/2007 13:11 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder what the Baptists are upset about THIS time?? I know what you're thinking...it COULD have been the Mormons or Shintoists. Still, blowing up innocent civilians sounds like the "Religion of Peace" to me. And wasn't that the Baptists? Gotta go check my facts! :)
Posted by: Justrand || 06/02/2007 14:33 Comments || Top||

#2  This is just another BushCo scam to get us all lathered up so he can get re-elected. I ain't afraid of no ghosts extremists.
Posted by: Bobby || 06/02/2007 16:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Muzzie, including an imam, (not a Baptist imam.)
Posted by: Solomon Thrinemp1792 || 06/02/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||

#4  Just saw the mug-shots of these three Jihadi wannabes.

Now, I'm no expert on profiling...but in the dictionary under: "Terrorist", I'm pretty sure there are pictures of these guys!
Posted by: Justrand || 06/02/2007 17:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Heh heh, getting purdy good Bobby.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 17:48 Comments || Top||

#6  More as of 5 pm:

Several men were charged today with plotting to destroy New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK) by planting explosives to blow up massive jet-fuel supply tanks and a 40-mile pipeline.
The arrests include Russell Defreitas, a Brooklyn resident who was born in Guyana and a former airport cargo worker. Trinidad officials arrested Kareem Ibrahim, a Trinidad citizen, and Abdul Kadir, a former member of the Guyanese parliament. A fourth suspect still at large has been identified as Abdel Nur, a Guyanese national.
Roslynn Mauskopf, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York, called it "one of the most chilling plots imaginable."
In a recorded conversation following one of the surveillance missions to JFK airport, "Mr. Defreitas predicted that the attacks would result in the destruction of 'the whole of Kennedy,' that only a few people would survive the attack, and that because of the location of the targeted fuel pipelines, part of Queens would explode," the criminal complaint said.
The arrests were made Friday night following a five-month investigation by the Joint Terrorist Task Force, and the men were charged today with conspiring to attack JFK airport by planting explosives to blow up the airport's major jet-fuel supply tanks and the Buckeye Pipeline.
The airport handles 1,000 flights per day, nearly half of which are international. Each year, approximately 45 million passengers and more than 1.5 million tons of cargo with an estimated value of $120 billion move through JFK.
The Buckeye Pipeline distributes fuel and other petroleum products to sites in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and the New York boroughs of Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Queens.
U.S. authorities say the men obtained satellite photographs of the airport and surrounding facilities from the Internet and traveled frequently between the United States, Guyana, and Trinidad to discuss their plans and solicit the financial and technical assistance of others.
The plot was presented to radical groups in South America and the Caribbean, including senior leadership of Jamaat Al Muslimeen (JAM), which was responsible for a deadly coup attempt in Trinidad in 1990.
Mr. Kadir and Mr. Nur "were longtime associates of JAM leaders," the complaint said.
"The defendants sought to combine an insider's knowledge of JFK Airport with the assistance of Islamic radicals in the Caribbean to produce an attack that they boasted would be so devastating to the airport that 'even the Twin Towers can't touch it,'" said Kenneth L. Wainstein, assistant attorney general for national security.
An informant working with law enforcement agents began monitoring the plot in its early stages and made numerous recordings. In one discussion, authorities said, Mr. Defreitas said JFK Airport holds symbolic importance for Americans.
"Anytime you hit Kennedy, it is the most hurtful thing to the United States. To hit John F. Kennedy, wow ... They love John F. Kennedy like he's the man ... If you hit that, this whole country will be in mourning. It's like you can kill the man twice," the complaint quoted him as saying, adding that he also bragged last month that the plot "can destroy the economy of America for some time."
The men plotted to disable the airport control tower monitors at the fuel tank locations and ignite two explosions to provide enough oxygen to ignite the inner tank.
"The defendants are charged with conspiring to bomb one of the busiest airports in the United States, located in one of the most densely populated areas in the Northeast. Had the plot been carried out, it could have resulted in unfathomable damage, deaths, and destruction," Miss Mauskopf said.


And from the AP:

Four Muslim men were foiled from carrying out a plot to destroy John F. Kennedy International Airport, kill thousands of people and trigger an economic catastrophe by blowing up a jet fuel artery that runs through populous residential neighborhoods, authorities said Saturday.

Three men were arrested and one was being sought in Trinidad on Saturday. One of the suspects, Russell Defreitas, a U.S. citizen native to Guyana and retired JFK employee, said the airport was a symbol that would put "the whole country in mourning."

"It's like you can kill the man twice," said Defreitas, 63, who first hatched his plan more than a decade ago when he worked as a cargo handler for a service company, according to the indictment.

Authorities said they were motivated by a pattern of hatred toward the U.S., Israel and the West. Defreitas was recorded saying he "wanted to do something to get those bastards." He was in custody in Brooklyn and was expected to be arraigned Saturday afternoon.

Two other men, Abdul Kadir of Guyana and Kareem Ibrahim of Trinidad, were in custody in Trinidad. A fourth man, Abdel Nur of Guyana, was still being sought in Trinidad.

The suspects believed explosives could ignite the pipeline at JFK and destroy the airport and parts of Queens, where the line runs underground, according to the indictment.

Kadir, a former member of Parliament in Guyana, was arrested in Trinidad for attempting to secure money for "terrorist operations," according to a Guyanese police commander who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Kadir left his position in Parliament last year. Muslims make up about 9 percent of the former Dutch and British colony's 770,000 population, mostly from the Sunni sect.

Isha Kadir, the Guyanese suspect's wife, said her husband flew from Guyana to Trinidad on Thursday. She said he was arrested Friday as he was boarding a flight from Trinidad to Venezuela, where he planned to pick up a travel visa to attend an Islamic religious conference in Iran.

"We have no interest in blowing up anything in the U.S.," she said Saturday from the couple's home in Guyana. "We have relatives in the U.S."

Buckeye spokesman Roy Haase said the company, which moves petroleum through pipelines in a number of states, had been informed of the threat from the beginning.

"Given the nature of Buckeye business and the importance of this transportation network, we have an intense and ongoing communications relationship with the Port Authority, the New York City fire and police departments, the federal Department of Homeland Security and the FBI," he said.

The arrests mark the latest in a series of alleged homegrown terrorism plots targeting high-profile American landmarks.

A year ago, seven men were arrested in what officials called the early stages of a plot to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and destroy FBI offices and other buildings.

A month later, authorities broke up a plot to bomb underwater New York City train tunnels to flood lower Manhattan.

And six people were arrested a month ago in an alleged plot to unleash a bloody rampage on Fort Dix in New Jersey.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 17:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Are you sure it wasn't the Baptists? Prebyterians? Methodists? Can't be the Religion of Peace.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/02/2007 18:09 Comments || Top||

#8  No doubt in the next few days everyone at the mosques they attended will explain to us how they never saw this coming.

Then we'll get the endless lectures about Islam meaning peace.

Then there'll be the fears of a "backlash".

Then the explanations that we're really to blame because of Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Spain, the Balkans.

Then the declarations (in Arabic/off the record) from the Muslims that we deserved it, that the accused are innocent men caught up in "Islamophobia".
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/02/2007 18:21 Comments || Top||

#9  TW, Michael Ledeen pointed out an item in the article you posted :

and notice the route: Venezuela to Iran. Did you notice that there are now directly flight from Caracas to Teheran via Damascus? The jihadis' haj.
Posted by: mrp || 06/02/2007 19:18 Comments || Top||

#10  These vile assholes wanted entire neighborhoods traversed by the jet fuel pipeline to be engulfed in an inferno. We're talking tens of thousands of deaths.

We need to draw up branching diagrams of every single person subsequently related to any given terrorist's entry into America and deport all of them. As Trifkovic points out so lucidly:
7. Treat Islamic activism as grounds for the loss of acquired U.S. citizenship and deportation. The citizenship of any naturalized American who preaches jihad, discrimination against “infidels” and women, the establishment of the Shari’a law etc., should be revoked and that person promptly deported to the country of origin.

10. Treat affiliation with Islam as grounds for denial or revoking of any level of security clearance. Affiliation with Islam is incompatible with the requirements of personal commitment, patriotic loyalty and unquestionable reliability that are essential in the military, law enforcement, intelligence services, and other related branches of government. Presence of practicing Muslims in any of these institutions would present an inherent risk to its integrity and would undermine morale.

The elite class has every intention of continuing to “fight” the war on terrorism without naming the enemy, without revealing his beliefs, without unmasking his intentions, without offending his accomplices, without expelling his fifth columnists, and without ever daring to win. Their crime can and must be stopped. The founders of the United States overthrew the colonial government for offenses far lighter than those of which the traitor class is guilty.
So long as the enemy goes unnamed, unrevealed, unoffended and unexpelled, this will be our reward. Our politicians are delivering us into the hands of our very worst enemies. May all of them rot in everlasting hell.

Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 19:24 Comments || Top||

#11  The founders of the United States overthrew the colonial government for offenses far lighter than those of which the traitor class is guilty.

So hop to it rantburg!
Posted by: Glart Dingle7076 || 06/02/2007 19:42 Comments || Top||

#12  This is why the "religion of pieces" will never be at peace with the west.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/02/2007 20:10 Comments || Top||

#13  Yet another Islamic hate crime against civilisation foiled. Well done, NYPD and FBI!
Posted by: Mullah Lodabullah || 06/02/2007 20:36 Comments || Top||

#14  So hop to it rantburg!

Yo, GD7076, got any strategies to suggest or are you just some sort of lameass armchair quarterback? Provide your own measures or go piss up a rope, emkay?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 21:10 Comments || Top||

#15  and notice the route: Venezuela to Iran. Did you notice that there are now directly flight from Caracas to Teheran via Damascus? The jihadis' haj.

Good catch, mrp. I did not notice that bit, and it's very important. Although we've known for a while that both Al Qaeda and Iran have connections and active cells happily growing in the tri-country area down there (even if I'm not sure exactly which countries those are).

Even more:
link: The plot, which the men code-named “Chicken Farm,” never got past the planning stages, authorities said.

Mayor Bloomberg was briefed about the plot, and issued this statement:

"The fact that plotters conspired to plan an attack on John F. Kennedy Airport is another reminder that in today's world we face constant threats from people who want to take away our freedoms and destroy our way of life. Working together, NYPD and other local and federal law enforcement agencies have been on top of this unfolding plot for months, and they deserve our thanks and praise. This plot was only in its planning stages and at no point was anyone in imminent danger. New Yorkers should be comforted that the layers of safety provided by counter terrorism officials stopped these individuals before they could do any harm to our way of life."

Richard Kuprewicz, a pipeline expert and president of Accufacts Inc., an energy consulting firm that focuses on pipelines and tank farms, said the force of any explosion would depend on the amount of fuel under pressure, but it would not travel up and down the line. “That doesn’t mean wackos out there can’t do damage and cause a fire, but those explosions and fires are going to be fairly restricted,” he said.

Since Defreitas has worked at the airport, security has tightened, and his knowledge of the operation was severely outdated. Defreitas first hatched his plan more than a decade ago when he worked as a cargo handler for a service company, according to the indictment. He was recorded boasting that he had been taught to make bombs in Guyana.

JFK and the area’s other airports remained at a heightened state of alert Saturday, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey said.


From USAToday: Abdul Kadir, 55, served in the parliament until last year, when it was disbanded before general elections in the former Dutch and British colony on the north coast of South America. Kadir, who studied civil engineering at the University of Guyana and at the Trinidad campus of the University of the West Indies, also served as mayor in Linden, a small city south of Georgetown, the Guyanese capital. He also worked for years as a civil engineer in the state-owned bauxite company before leaving to set up his own building contractor business.

Kadir's wife, Isha Kadir, told The Associated Press that her husband knew Abdel Nur in Guyana in the 1980s but they were no longer in contact. "We have not seen him for a long time and I would be surprised if my husband has any links with him still," she said in a phone interview from her home in Guyana.

The wife said Kadir, a Shiite Muslim...Muslims, mostly Sunnis, make up about 9% of Guyana's population.

In August 2005, the FBI established a permanent office in Trinidad, which has seen a sharp rise in kidnappings, homicides and drug crime in recent years. In a visit later that year, FBI Director Robert Mueller said he had no reason to believe there were terrorist cells in the twin-island nation but there were "persons of interest" living there.


And ABC, at midday: FBI agents feared but never confirmed the three men accused of plotting to attack John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York were linked to one of the most wanted al Qaeda leaders, Adnan Shukrijumah, known to have operated out of Guyana and Trinidad.

Officials tell the Blotter on ABCNews.com that they heard repeated references to "Adnan" during the extensive wiretaps conducted on the suspects' telephone conversations, including calls to Guyana and Trinidad.

There is a $5 million reward for information on Shukrijumah, who officials consider extremely dangerous because of the years he spent living in the Miami area and his known ties to al Qaeda. Some of the 9/ll hijackers attended a south Florida mosque run by Shukrijumah's now deceased father.

Shukrijumah left the United States just a few months before September 2001.

A FBI spokesperson in Miami said the squad assigned to track Shukrijumah was aware of the case but that "no connection" to the wanted al Qaeda suspect was found in the JFK case.

The spokesperson said the best available information is that Shukrijumah is with top al Qaeda leaders along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

The investigation, which appears to have been ongoing for at least two years, was brought to a conclusion when one suspect was about to leave jurisdictions where U.S. authorities had the ability to monitor his activities.

Sources said the plotters had "indirect" links to overseas terror elements, and the plot had links to Guyana, Trinidad and possibly Germany.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 21:23 Comments || Top||

#16  Sorry for the long posts, but I thought better this way, having all the information in one place. If y'all would rather I post the articles independently on the front page, please say so. I'd rather be effective that have my own way. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 21:26 Comments || Top||

#17  you're doing fine
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 21:27 Comments || Top||

#18 
Mr. Defreitas said JFK Airport holds symbolic importance for Americans.
"Anytime you hit Kennedy, it is the most hurtful thing to the United States. To hit John F. Kennedy, wow ... They love John F. Kennedy like he's the man ... If you hit that, this whole country will be in mourning. It's like you can kill the man twice," the complaint quoted him as saying, adding that he also bragged last month that the plot "can destroy the economy of America for some time."
These clowns are ultra-delusional.

But we knew that....
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/02/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||

#19  So is he the Grassy Knoll guys of 21st century Islam or the Lee Harvey Oswald of the 21st century Islam? Perspiring minds wanna knowe. Heard Kadir's daughter's satement that she was "shocked! shocked! that this accusation came about. He's a simple, peaceful...yadda yadda.." bullshit. His itinerary alone oughta send him to extensive physical interrogation. Asshole
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 22:14 Comments || Top||

#20  Dear Frank,

When you mention an "extensive physical interrogation. Asshole", I trust you mean that as a startinig point.

Seeking Clarification,

Zenster
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 22:41 Comments || Top||

#21  Serge (Srdja) Trifkovic is Foreign Affairs Editor of Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture, published by The Rockford Institute, and Director of the Institute's Center for International Affairs. He has a BA (Hon) in international relations from the University of Sussex (UK), a BA in political science from the University of Zagreb (Croatia), and a PhD in history from the University of Southampton (UK).

a Libertarian magazine that I used to subscribe to 1990 + or -
Posted by: Paleo Division Flyash Liberation Army || 06/02/2007 22:58 Comments || Top||

#22  I have no issue with this martyr receiving his raisins as long as we get his contact info we need to move further up the plotting. His daughter says he's innocent of plotting to kill Merkins. I suppose that'll pose a quandry to the raisin/virgin distributor....my heart bleeds..
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 23:04 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Bannu check-post attacked
Suspected militants fired five rockets on a police check-post early on Friday, but no one was hurt, police said. The attack took place near Mandan police station at 2am on Friday. The duty officer at Mandan police station told Daily Times that the militants left behind three rockets after the policemen returned fire. Separately, a bomb injured a bank manager in Bannu, AP reported. Muhammad Rashid, manager of Agriculture Development Bank of Pakistan in Bannu, was in his car when the homemade bomb exploded, and the device was probably planted inside his vehicle, said local police official Muhammad Rafiq.
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Blast in Landikotal hospital
A blast at the Agency Headquarters Hospital here injured clerk Khaista Muhammad on Friday, officials said. The Khasadar force cordoned off the scene soon after the incident. “The hospital staff had gone to offer Friday prayers when the incident occurred,” a hospital official said, adding that the bomb exploded at around 1pm in the hospital’s second floor –in the middle of the offices of medical superintendent and NGO Save the Children US. The principal officer of the US Consulate in Peshawar inaugurated the Save the Children, US office at the hospital on April 26, the official said. MS Zar Alam Shinwari told Daily Times that the bomb had been planted in the NGO’s office.
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Hafsa students’ attempt to occupy PIMS hostel foiled
The administration of the Pakistan Institute of Medical Sciences (PIMS) has suspended five Christian officials including Staff Nursing College Principal Stella Nazir and instructor Fazeela Piara after Muslim nursing students alleged that Christian students had desecrated verses of the holy Quran inscribed on a water cooler in the college.

The PIMS administration has closed the nurses’ hostel for 15 days and deployed security guards and policemen to prevent any untoward incident. The Margalla police station has registered a case against unidentified persons under Section 295B of the Blasphemy Act on the complaint of PIMS Deputy Executive Director Dr Amjad.

Dr Amjad told Daily Times that a cross was marked on translations of the holy Quran and Hadith written on a water cooler in the college. He said the hostel boarders had been sent to their homes on summer vacation. The PIMS administration has formed a three-member committee under the supervision of Prof Anwarul Haq to investigate the matter and submit a report within 48 hours.

The district administration foiled an attempt by Jamia Hafsa students to occupy the nurses’ hostel after Muslim students of the PIMS nursing college told them about the alleged desecration of Quranic verses.

The Jamia Hafsa administration sent 30 female and 10 male students to PIMS for action against the alleged desecrators and to occupy the nurses’ hostel. The district administration and a heavy police contingent rushed to PIMS and cordoned off the hostel.

Sources told Daily Times that baton-wielding students of Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa had a heated argument with the police, but were not allowed entry into the hostel.

Minister of State For Minorities Mushtaq Victor and former federal minister J Salik reached PIMS and negotiated with the Jamia Hafsa students. They said there were 40 percent Christian nurses in PIMS and they had never hurt the religious sentiments of other communities.

Addressing a press conference at Lal Masjid, Jamia Hafsa students said they visited PIMS on the complaint of Muslim nursing students Amna Nuzhat and Nasreen. They said the PIMS administration misbehaved with them when they tried to see the complainants.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh lordy, these bad eyes thought it read PMS Hostel, I was worried about the bell clerk and the desk staff.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 9:58 Comments || Top||


Kashmir Korpse Kount: 11
Three policemen and eight suspected separatist militants were killed in explosions and gun battles across Indian-held Kashmir, police said on Friday.

Two policemen were killed and six wounded after a grenade attack on a federal police camp in Kulgam district, south of Srinagar, summer capital of Jammu and Kashmir state.

Hours earlier, suspected militants set off a bomb in the heart of Srinagar, wounding at least 16 soldiers in an army bus. Kashmir’s frontline rebel group, Hizbul Mujahideen, claimed responsibility for the attack.

Elsewhere, eight militants and a policeman were killed and six soldiers wounded in separate clashes between militants and troops across the revolt-torn region in the last 24 hours, police said.
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Iraq
837 Terrorist Killed in Surge to Date
The pace of operations has quickened in the city. Since January 15, U.S. servicemembers have conducted 98 battalion-level operations, Odierno said. The troops neutralized six car-bomb factories and dismantled four improvised-explosive-device cells. Coalition and Iraqi forces have killed 837 insurgents and terrorists and wounded 180.

In addition, coalition forces have found 441 arms caches in Baghdad just since January. In all of 2006, coalition troops found 266 caches, the general said.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 06/02/2007 13:49 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  About two battalions of enemy killed and wounded. Puts it in perspective.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/02/2007 16:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Presumably some captured as well.
Posted by: Glenmore || 06/02/2007 17:31 Comments || Top||

#3  I'd guess at least twice as many captured (including the wounded -- how else would we know how many of those there are?) as killed, Glenmore, based on nothing more than gut feel after having read so many posts here.
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 17:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Exactly, TW. Clearly there will be several detainees, on average, for each toe tag.

Sort of amazing what you can do when you, ya know, actually sort of fight a war, instead of relying on magic tricks and b.s. to win. Our operations still probably amount to a pretty feeble effort, historically speaking.

Posted by: Verlaine || 06/02/2007 18:01 Comments || Top||

#5  True, Verlaine.
You know if we fought this like, oh WWII, it would be over by now.
Posted by: DarthVader || 06/02/2007 20:31 Comments || Top||


Iraq: Photos of US Soldiers Beheaded
HT No Pasaran! Pics at link, graphic.
The photos are alleged to show the bodies of U.S. service men in Iraq. It's difficult to confirm that these are the soldiers that were captured some 3 weeks ago.

However, the HAQ News Agency, an Arab language site (with a broken English version), reports in what it calls an "exclusive" that two of the soldiers have been found decapitated.

The English translation is pretty rough:

Finding the bodies of two American soldiers with gotten head cut in al-Mahmoudia
... After six days of continuous search for the three soldiers captured the American occupation forces found today the bodies with gotten head cut related to two of the three soldiers captured in which the third soldier's fate is unknown so far.
... Police sources in the city of Mahmoudia said to our correspondent that the two bodies were found near one of their orchards in the city.

[The bodies] have appeared severe torture signs and with gotten head cut and the American forces that monitored 200 thousand dollar award to whom give them any information that led them to him.

[The American forces] continued searching for the third soldier in which [three] thousand of American soldiers deployed along with government forces.

[They are] accompanied by air cover involving fighter planes, helicopters and unmanned spy planes in different parts of the city areas of Mahmoudia, Latifiyah and Yusufiyah, hoping to find any evidence to lead to them to the third soldier.

Since that report the third soldier has been found:
Iraqi police dragged a body from the Euphrates River on Wednesday and said it was one of three American soldiers abducted in an ambush claimed by al-Qaeda.

Military officials told the family of Private Joseph Anzack that a commanding officer had identified his body, but that DNA tests were still pending.
"They told us, 'We're sorry to inform you the body we found has been identified as Joe,"' Debbie Anzack, the soldier's aunt, told Associated Press. "I'm in disbelief."
About 4,000 US and Iraqi troops have been searching for the missing soldiers.
Captain Muthanna al-Maamouri, a police spokesman in Hilla, near where the body was found, said there were bullet wounds on the victim, who was wearing US army-issue trousers and boots and had a tattoo on his left arm.
"This is one of the missing soldiers," Capt Maamouri said. The police also said there were signs of torture.
The three were taken after an ambush south of Baghdad on May 12.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 06/02/2007 10:59 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So why not do a tit for tat. AQ == beheaded
Posted by: 3dc || 06/02/2007 11:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Michael Savage has been running these and some other pics like this at his web site.

I don't think they are pics of the recent captured 3 soldgiers. I think they are of the 2 soldgiers that were captured then found dead mutilated a while ago. Bottom line they are old pics of past events in my opinion.
Posted by: C-Low || 06/02/2007 12:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Bottom line they are old pics of past events in my opinion.

Doesn't matter how old the pictures are, we need to butcher these fiends the same way they butcher our people. And we need to post the videos of them screaming like little girls on the Arab web sites.

It is past time for some Biblical "eye for an eye..." payback. And that is my opinion.
Posted by: Natural Law || 06/02/2007 14:18 Comments || Top||

#4  If we lay hands on bodies, we will do a thorough check for foreign DNA, which might pinpoint the group or family responsible. Then we pay them a visit.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 06/02/2007 16:19 Comments || Top||

#5  and tiro=rtured before hand you know like put some pantied on there head like i'm al q did
Posted by: Whusoter Lumumba8696 || 06/02/2007 18:17 Comments || Top||

#6  The only way to deal with beheadings is to kill any and all AQ. It has to be unhealthy to be AQ or radical islamists anywhere anytime. Catch and release is a waste of time.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/02/2007 18:24 Comments || Top||

#7  Damn, damn, DAMN! Way past time to get medieval on these bastards - but I know it won't happen.

One of the missing is from about thirty miles from where I live.
Posted by: xbalanke || 06/02/2007 18:36 Comments || Top||


12 dead in Baghdad mortar strike
Mortar rounds crashed down on a market place in a neighbourhood of southwest Baghdad on Friday killing 12 people and wounding 40, a medical source said. First one round struck the Umm al-Maarif neighbourhood, attracting a large crowd of worried onlookers, then three more slammed into them, killing a dozen people, including children, the doctor at the capital’s Yarmuk hospital said. Separately, tribal commander said his fighters had joined nationalist insurgents fighting Al Qaeda in Baghdad street battles. An Iraqi cameraman working for AP was shot and killed in Baghdad on Thursday, the US news organisation said.
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Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Paleos Invent Exploding Concrete: Paleos said Joos Did It
Posted by: phil_b || 06/02/2007 16:04 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Israel has been ruling the Palestinian people for 40 years, and what is happening to Nablus is out-and-out war," said Information Minister Mustafa Barghouti.

These would be the same awful, nasty, icky Zionist Jews that the overwhelming majority of Gazans are begging to come back and occupy the place once again. Right? Just wanted to clear that up.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 16:55 Comments || Top||

#2  no comments from the Black Powder And Flyash Liberation Army?
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 17:08 Comments || Top||

#3 
Fatwa This and Fatwa That
Dem Clever Jooos Are Full Of Trix™
The Concrete Walls Went Splatty Splat
Because There be Jooo Jinns in The Redi Mix

Allen Snackbar!



Allen Snack Bar
Posted by: Paleo Division Flyash Liberation Army || 06/02/2007 22:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Send the Paleos more dynamite -- as long as they can't get it into Israel it's all good.
Posted by: Iblis || 06/02/2007 22:57 Comments || Top||


Debka's take on Fatah versus Hamas; Interesting
Tuesday night, May 29, Israeli forces pinned down and killed the breakaway militia’s Jenin chief Muhammad Marai. A few hours later, Israeli troops fought a Hamas squad hurling explosives and grenades in Tulkarm. The Israeli army has gone into action to decapitate the new group, which calls itself the Martyr Abu Amar (Yasser Arafat) Brigades, before it carries out orders from its Hamas chiefs in Gaza to launch mass-casualty, multiple suicide operations in Israeli cities from the West Bank. Israeli units have fanned out in Ramallah, Jenin, Tulkarm and Nablus.

Tuesday, DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reported:

More than 40 pc of Fatah-al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades on the West Bank have rebelled against Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) and his senior adviser Mohammed Dahlan and established a separate suicide terrorist militia. The Martyr Abu Amar (Yasser Arafat) Brigades now obeys Hamas Gaza chiefs Hussein Hijaz and Abu Hilas (Abu Maher). They also take orders, as well as explosive supplies and funds, from the Lebanese Hizballah.

DEBKAfile quotes Israeli military and intelligence sources as rating this split as extremely dangerous. It affords Hamas a prime strategic asset for escalating its violent campaign against Israel.

Hamas managed in the middle of its factional war with Fatah to infiltrate the opposition’s West Bank strongholds and persuade a large faction to establish a Hamas-controlled militia. Israel did not prevent this happening.

The result, our counter-terror experts report, is a Hamas launching pad on the West Bank, previously controlled by Fatah, for a mass suicide bombing offensive against central Israel, projected by the Iran-backed Hamas as the next stage of its missile campaign from Gaza. The new Martyr Abu Amar Brigades have been given orders to gear up to stage multiple suicide truck bombings, Iraq style, in Israel’s main cities.

Sunday, May 27, they captured Khaled Shawish, who was important enough in the Fatah terrorist hierarchy to hide for years in the Palestinian Authority compound in Ramallah, after engineering numerous terrorist attacks, including the Dec. 31, 2000 murder of Binyamin and Talia Cahane. Recently, he was involved in shooting attacks in the West Bank.

Monday, the brother of Zakariah Zubeidi, the notorious Fatah commander of Jenin, was picked up. He had been acting as intermediary between the al Aqsa Brigades and the rebels; a leading Fatah defector was killed in a village near Jenin. Tuesday, Israel forces detained Jamil Tirawi in Nablus. He is the son of Tawfiq Tirawi, Arafat’s faithful lieutenant, who was a co-founder of the al Aqsa Brigades, Fatah’s suicide strike force.

The revolt against Abu Mazen and Dahlan, instigated by Hamas and backed by Hizballah, is spreading.

The influential Fatah-Tanzim terrorist leader, Marwan Barghouti, has endorsed the defection from his Israel cell, where he is serving six life sentences for murdering Israeli civilians in terrorist attacks.

Another supporter is Jibril Rajoub, former preventive security chief on the West Bank, and rival of Dahlan.

The Fatah mutiny has awarded Hamas strike force and terrorist networks stretching from Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip to Jenin in the northern West Bank. It is described by Israeli security sources as the gravest terrorist threat Israel has faced since its 2002 Defensive Wall operation broke Arafat’s terrorist infrastructure. Abu Mazen’s rule has never been in greater peril.

Israeli prime minister could not have chosen a more unfortunate moment to yield to Washington’s pressure and announce talks next week with Abbas. All the Palestinian leader needs now is a meeting with Ehud Olmert as he battles for authority over his increasingly radicalized and mutinous Fatah.
Posted by: phil_b || 06/02/2007 05:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The PM really needs to resign.
Posted by: 3dc || 06/02/2007 11:17 Comments || Top||

#2  It's interesting that all the usual suspects who say democracy cannot succeed in Iraq want to see this turd (paleostine) polished...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 06/02/2007 18:57 Comments || Top||

#3  The new Martyr Abu Amar Brigades have been given orders to gear up to stage multiple suicide truck bombings, Iraq style, in Israel’s main cities.

Israel desperately needs to go into the West Bank, level a few city blocks and tell them the entire place will look like that five minutes after the first truck bomb goes off. Same thing for Gaza. This farce has gone on for entirely too long. There will never be peace until all the Palestinians are dead and not a minute sooner.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 5:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Ummm, carrots!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 6:55 Comments || Top||

#5  "The Martyr Abu Amar (Yasser Arafat) Brigades"

What’s the gig on the lax martyr qualifications these days anyway? Didn’t the crook Arafat die from AIDS or kidney failure, or something? Oh…that’s right…I forgot the Jooz poisoned him. Never mind.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 06/02/2007 10:29 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Bombings, arson and protests in southern Thailand
In continuing violence in the South, seven people were wounded in the bombing of a Pattani restaurant late Friday, three soldiers were wounded in a roadside bombing in Narathiwat, and two schools were torched late Friday. A remote-controlled bomb, hidden under a sofa, exploded at a restaurant in Pattani's Sai Buri district Friday night. Seven customers were wounded, all local residents, and were rushed to hospital.

In Narathiwat's Cho Ai Rong district, a roadside bomb exploded in front of a school as a patrol of six soldiers were passing by on Friday night. Three men sustained shrapnel wounds and were taken to hospital.

In Yala, Bantalosumae school was burnt on Friday night. Two classrooms were completely destroyed. Police found pieces of tires and sacks in a classroom, evidence of an anson having been done. The fire broke out when no one was guarding the school. The school had been a temporary base for paramilitary rangers but they had vacated the school premises on Thursday. The attackers also are believed to have stolen a computer from the school. Police believe that the arson is linked to the southern unrest.

In Pattani's Panare district, a school was torched on Friday night. One room was only partially damaged as local residents saw the blaze and were able to extinguish it.

Meanwhile:

Hundreds of Muslim women and children have blocked three roads in Pattani province, demanding the lifting of a military curfew and the removal of all paramilitary rangers from everywhere in the South. Some 300 protesters blocked the Pattani-Narathiwat road in Sai Buri district on Saturday. Some 200 others blocked the Pattani-Yala road in Yaring district while another group comprising of 300 people have blocked a road in Nong Chik district.

The mob's centre is a mosque in Pattani, where thousands of Muslims have joined the protest, now in its third day. More than 200 security forces have surrounded the mosque for fear that a third party may take advantage. Mobile phone signals have been cut off, with authorities claiming they are only trying to prevent bombs that might be set off by insurgents. Pattani governor Panu Uthairat arrived at the mosque shortly after noon on Saturday to try to negotiate with the protest leaders.
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#1  Park a Tank across the road
DRIVE a tank down through these protestors a few times and watch how fast the "protests" end. The only thing muzzlimbs understand is the overwhelming use of force. Apply it a few times and watch their attitude change.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/02/2007 19:07 Comments || Top||

#2  OP, yep: my speedbump comment :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 19:11 Comments || Top||

#3  speedbumps, not roadblocks
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 9:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Park a Tank across the road, that's a pretty big 'speedbump' to get around.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/02/2007 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Ask Lebanese army how to deal with them. You know - "when muslims kill muslims it's a weather channel" (UN Israeli envoy, Gillermann)...
Posted by: Matt K. || 06/02/2007 10:30 Comments || Top||

#6  what a shame that such a beautiful country will be destroyed.
Posted by: Angaiger Tojo1904 || 06/02/2007 10:43 Comments || Top||


Sri Lanka
Sri Lanka: 4 killed in northeast
(SomaliNet) At least two government soldiers and two members of a rival Tamil Tiger group were killed Friday in fresh violence in Sri Lanka's Northern and Eastern provinces since Thursday night, officials said.

A soldier and a paramilitary home guard were killed when the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) ambushed them at around 8: 45 a.m. (0315 GMT) Friday. The victims were traveling on a motorcycle when they came under attack in the northern town of Vavuniya, officials said.

In the eastern Ampara district's Akkaraipattu area at least two members of the LTTE rival Karuna faction were gunned down by mainstream LTTE cadres Thursday night, police said.

Meanwhile, more civilians began to flee the Ethavatunuwewa village in the north where LTTE rebels have been firing mortars and artillery in area since Thursday morning.

The state administrative officer Niroshan Karunatilake said that the fleeing villagers have increased to 800. They are housed in a school and the state is providing basic amenities to the displaced people.

Nearly 5,000 people have died in the escalation of the conflict since the end of 2005 when the LTTE rebels stepped up their attacks against government troops.

Claiming discrimination at the hands of the majority ethnic Sinhalese-dominated government, the LTTE has been fighting for an independent homeland for Sri Lanka's 12.5 percent Tamil minority since the 1970s.
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Fatah al-Islam Suicide Bombers Destroy Mosque in Nahr al-Bared
Hat tip Gateway Pundit.
Lebanese troops battled with besieged militants of the Fatah al-Islam terrorist group in north Lebanon's Palestinian refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared Saturday amidst calls for civilians to oust "intruders and criminals." The army lost six "martyrs" in 36 hours of fierce clashes, while Fatah al-Islam lost at least 52 terrorists fighters.
52 to 6? Leb Army is getting better.
The army also rounded up a dozen Fatah al-Islam terrorists militants, three of them wounded, during fierce fighting behind a screen of heavy shelling by howitzers and tank cannons. Army troops also opened up at Fatah al-Islam sniping nests with .50-caliber machine guns mounted on armored personnel carriers to cover advance of commando units that try to storm buildings booby-trapped by the militants.
I'm no expert, but it seems that snipers would be Fatah's best weapon to slow/stop the Leb Army, and artillery would be the Army's best weapon to counter them.
Witnesses said Fatah al-Islam militants have also booby-trapped donkeys and dogs and set them in the direction of army lines, but the animals were shot and detonated before reaching army positions.
"Hey Achmed, see the donkey over there to the left?"
"Yeah, so?"
"Watch this." .. [ka-pwing] .. [BO-O-O-O-O-O-O-MMM!]
"Holy Allan! An exploding donkey!"
"They better not do it to any goats, or it's gonna get personal."
Witnesses said 10 Fatah al-Islam suicide bombers blew themselves up at al-Thawra mosque and an adjacent building in the besieged camp.
Splodydopes being Fatah's worst weapon. Use once, throw away.
They said the militants were using mosques and medical centers as combat outposts in an apparent effort to force the army attack such targets.
To which the army correctly responded ...
The army, however, said in a communiqué that holy sites and medical centers have been pacified.
By which I think they mean, 'reduced to rubble'.
Muslim Clergymen stressed in Friday sermons that mosques should not be used for other purposes than praying.
Apostate!
Meanwhile, Islamist fighters evacuated families and dependents from the Ein al-Hellhole Ein al-Hilweh Palestinian refugee camp near the southern port city of Sidon, witnesses said.
Since that's where the next fight will be.
The move coincided with the army's advance towards Fatah al-Islam's remaining outposts in Nahr al-Bared.

Prime Minister Fouad Saniora's majority government, which says Fatah al-Islam is a mere terrorist network sponsored by Syria, has taken a decision to uproot the militants. The government has made the militants a "surrender or die" offer, but Fatah al-Islam said it would fight to the bitter end.
Hokay, the Leb Army will oblige ...
Palestine Liberation Organization representative in Lebanon Abbas Zaki has said the Nahr al-Bared camp was like a "hijacked plane or ship. Our people have been hijacked by the Fatah al-Islam gang."
I'd feel sorry for them but I know better ...
Uprooting Fatah al-Islam, Zaki added, would guarantee future of the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon, estimated at about 400.000 people.
Guarantee that they won't be moving to Mauritania, he means ...
Posted by: Steve White || 06/02/2007 11:31 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Muslim Clergymen stressed in Friday sermons that mosques should not be used for other purposes than praying.

Isn't pulling the trigger and shouting "Allan's snackbar!" a prayer in Islam?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 06/02/2007 12:23 Comments || Top||

#2  How come nobody shouting Jeningrad?
Posted by: gromgoru || 06/02/2007 12:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Lebanese troops battled with besieged militants of the Fatah al-Islam terrorist group in north Lebanon's Palestinian refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared Saturday amidst calls for civilians to oust "intruders and criminals."

Is anyone else sensing a pattern here? Muslims seem to have some sort of congenital inhibition with respect to interdicting terrorist activities. The ultimate result of continuing this practice should be elimination of the term "collateral Muslim deaths" from our military's handbook.

Muslim Clergymen stressed in Friday sermons that mosques should not be used for other purposes than praying preying.

There, fixed that.

Our people have been hijacked by the Fatah al-Islam gang.

Once again, a scene from Blazing Saddles springs to mind. These scum hold themselves hostage against all civilizing influences or rational thought. Having dropped the reins of self-determination, Darwin shall be the ultimate arbiter of their collective fate.

Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 18:53 Comments || Top||


Siniora tells terrorists in Lebanon: Surrender or Die
The Battle for Nahr al-Bared began this morning. The intense Lebanese army artillery fire on the Palestinian refugee camp appears to be the beginning of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora's plan to eliminate the Islamist Fatal al-Islam faction if negotiations for its surrender failed to produce results.

Now, he says, Lebanese authorities have evidence that Syrian intelligence operatives are behind the ongoing violent clashes in a Palestinian refugee camp near Tripoli as part of an effort to destabilize the country. Siniora also says that Syrian elements, pursuing what he calls "a clear determination to subjugate the country," could be responsible for political killings in Lebanon including the 2005 assassination of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Siniora accused the Syrian regime of trying to intimidate Lebanese from supporting the court and said that the pursuit of justice entailed risks, including "instability in the country... planting bombs here and there." But Siniora says that his government is determined to push forward with the tribunal as well as uproot the Islamist faction with alleged Syrian links at the center of the Tripoli fighting to prove Lebanon's independence. "Otherwise," he said, "everybody can dare to slap us on the face." The message "to all criminals or those who are against the state," he added, would be "that they can continue committing crimes and there is impunity." A major benefit of the tribunal, Siniora says, is that more witnesses may be willing to provide evidence of crimes in Lebanon to U.N. investigators knowing that it will be used in an international court.

Here's the full transcript on the Tripoli crisis from my time.com interview with Siniora Thursday afternoon:

TIME: What is the government’s plan for resolving the Tripoli crisis?

Siniora: This is a group of people who came into Lebanon, assembled in Lebanon, and acquired the name Fatah al-Islam. They are completely innocent of these two names. They have nothing to do with Islam and nothing to do with Palestine. They are a group, actually, of terrorists.

They were the people behind the two bombs that exploded in the two buses [on Feb. 14] and killed a number of civilians. This is not an accusation. This is a confession that was made when we arrested a number of them. They later on made several robberies. The internal security forces were about to storm the apartment they were in, when simultaneously the army was attacked. It started that way. I could have said, “OK, they slapped me in the face, sorry gentlemen, I cannot do anything.” Then why I am I here as the state?

What's your plan for dealing with Fatah al-Islam?

I have plenty of problems, yes. The only thing I can do is stand fast on behalf of all the Lebanese. I would say this is a terrorist attack and we have to fight back. How to fight back? We have to use all means.

That’s why I invoted all the Palestinian [leaders] to come in the second day, in the morning. They came in and I put the matter in front of them. All of them said we condemn what happend, we disassociate and distance ourselves from this and we are ready to help in putting an end to this phenomenon. They are still making negotiations. Yes, I want to find a peaceful splution. A peaceful solution means what? These people have to surrender themslve to the Lebanese state. We can assure them they will have a very fair trial. Those who are part in the crime, they will have to be sentenced.

Our position is that we cannot tolerate the continuation of such terrorist groups in the camp. [Fatah al-islam] has been really attacking the Lebanese army and security. They have to surrender themselves to Lebanese justice.

This is not a fight between Palestinians and Lebanese. This is a fight between Lebanese and Palestinians on one hand, and the terrorists on the other. This group in particular is against the Palestinian cause. Every Palestinian leader is agreeing with me. It is not in their intersst to be associated with terrorists like that. They are agreeable and showing ways and means to cooperate. We are trying to convince these terrorists to surrender themlseves. They may or they may not. But in the meantime, the army has the responsibility.

Civilians are still there. We have to be very careful about them. The total population of the camp is about 32-33,000 people. What is left is slightly above 3,000. The remaining already moved to other camps and other places. We are taking care of them. This is our responsibility to take care of them. That is what we are doing.

The Council of Ministers asked the Lebanese army to look into the matter and see how this can be treated in case we fail to achieve results through political means. Then the army is entitled to make all the surgical arrangements to uproot them from that camp.

It is not in the interests of the camp or the people of the camp. What I'm saying clearly to the people of the camp is that you are moved from your camp into another place, to really make sure you are secure. At same time we are undertaking that you will get back to your place, and we undertake to rebuild that which has been destroyed.

What is your timetable for negotiations?

We are working on this matter in the best manner possible, assessing the matter from all aspects. We are confident that we are within the time that we have allotted to ourselves.

Is there a deadline for the negotiations?

Days. Definitely, I’m not saying months.

Does the army have the capacity to solve this by military means?

The army can put the plan that can guarantee achieving the objective with the least effort and least cost. At the end of the day, there is no solution that doesn’t have a side effect. Tell me about any country that had to face a problem like we are in, made by terrorists, and how did they act? The army cannot afford not to be successful.

Is there a danger of the clashes spreading to other Palestinian camps?

There is this risk. But this is not in the interests of the Palestinians.

What about Lebanese groups joining in?

And not in interests of Lebanese, I don’t think, because this will mean lots of instability that is not in the interests of even the outside parties that have an interest in Lebanon. Because this has major repercussions.

It is said Fatah al-Islam is linked to Syria.

To Syrian intelligence. This is exactly what I have heard from the interrogators [of 20 arrested suspects]. That there are some connections with some Syrian intelligence. Now whether this Syrian intelligence [operatives] are working on their own, or guided by higher superiors, I don’t know. We’ll have to find out.

What was the connection?

In the way they were assembled, the way they came, the way they got their ammunition and arms, in the way they were discussing and developing their plans and so on. I’m not talking about a telephone call. I prefer not to get into more specifics than that.

Why would Syria support such a group?

Why did they choose 13 February to make this first crime? To discourage people from participating in 14 February demonstration [marking the anniversary of Hariri's assassination]. Why make this last attack on Lebanese army? To discourage the Lebanese, and the Lebanese army, from taking any effort towards further consolidation of the country. And at same time, make the country as a whole more vulnerable.
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#1  Would Siniora have shown this type of backbone vis-a-vis Fatah al-Islam if Israel had not responded with such forceful retaliation to Hezbollah's last provocation? I highly doubt it.

Surely you're joking. Or delusional.

Don't mistake 'lack of backone' for prudence. Lebanon's army, thanks to the various factions in the country, is deliberately weak. Lebanon has perhaps one fifth of the forces Israel can call up. Of those, a significant majority can't be counted on to fight in certain situation (like, say, against Hesb'allah) It has equipment that is 40-plus years old. It hasn't been in significant combat, as a fighting force, in decades. No close air support (hence the heavy artillery barrages)

Again, don't confuse backbone with prudence. Fatal al-Islam is a 'safe' target. Small. Stupid. Not openly backed by the Paleostinians, Hesb'allah, Syria, or Iran. Even with all that, the Lebanese army is not having an easy time of it.

G*d save me from the armchair generals...
Posted by: Pappy || 06/02/2007 12:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Zenster, Islam may be incapable of change but I have hope that many muslims are reasonable people.

The overwhelming preponderance of evidence to date indicates otherwise. If "many Muslims were reasonable people", jihad would not be so wide-spread and counter-jihad would already be happening. It's not.

Even if that means they are considered apostates by the hard-core islamists.

Which they are quite obviously not willing to risk. By default, they allow the jihadists to rule the roost. Something that is entirely unacceptable for the West.

If we can promote the idea (the reality really) that these islamists are just nasty, violent gangsters cloaking themselves with islam then the ordinary muslims can throw off the islamist mantle and, hopefully, get on with (ordinary) life.

While I understand what you're trying to say, the simple fact remains that Islam itself is gangsterism personified. There are no Islamists hijacking any religion. This sort of murder, theft and mayhem is exactly what the Koran preaches and Muslims either tacitly or overtly support such filth.

We have to first give them a chance and if that fails then we have no choice but to utterly defeat them.

Islam has had the last half-decade to improve its image. Nothing of the sort has taken place. In fact, Islam's predations upon the West have only increased over time with little or no corresponding protest from the "moderate" Muslims you seek to defend. How much longer and how many more atrocities do you suggest we should endure before finally putting an end to this farce?

Our way of life or theirs - by force if necessary.

Like I was saying ...
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 16:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Muslims who side with us are, by the definition of their own evil scrolls, no longer Muslims.

As for collective punishment: Either our elected representatives and our security services take responsibility for the job or it will come down to vigilantes. I believe it is likely to be the latter. The peacetards will continue to call al-Qaeda and the like "freedom fighters" and the vigilantes will be called "death squads".

Sticks and stones.
Posted by: Excalibur || 06/02/2007 17:06 Comments || Top||

#4  Yes I believe you may be right Zenster. Civilization (and not having to struggle daily for my very existence) has made me soft. The uncomfortable truth is that it will take another terrible atrocity to harden my heart enough to want to take the action that is necessary.
Posted by: Gladys || 06/02/2007 17:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Islam is a fake religion that is dangerous to Western life. Declare it a dangerous, subversive illegal organization in the US and other Western countries.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/02/2007 18:15 Comments || Top||

#6  The uncomfortable truth is that it will take another terrible atrocity to harden my heart enough to want to take the action that is necessary.

I'd say, not so much "soft", Gladys, as less willing than others to abandon the traditional sense of humanity that is becoming necessary to correctly deal with Islam. Post 9-11 I took great pains to segregate Islamists from Muslims. Over the last five or more years, Muslims have taken no such pains. The time has come for them to experience the same degree, or greater, of suffering that they insist on inflicting upon us. Only first-hand knowledge of jihad's ultimate consequences will persuade them of the error of their ways.

By withholding proper punishment from Islam's followers, we are literally killing them with kindness. Better to begin genuine retribution now such that they can begin to gain a sense of the danger that jihad has wrought upon their world. To delay our retaliation until they have, through laxity or hostility, enacted a final monstrous atrocity which brings them nuclear annihilation is actually less fair.

Like Trifkovic says:
The elite class has every intention of continuing to “fight” the war on terrorism without naming the enemy, without revealing his beliefs, without unmasking his intentions, without offending his accomplices, without expelling his fifth columnists, and without ever daring to win.

This is a recipe for disaster. A catastrophe of such dimensions that everybody loses. Muslims, lacking advanced militaries, will suffer worst of all, but this in no way reduces the enormity of how avoidable all of this is, were we to apply comensurate force against Islam right now.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 18:36 Comments || Top||

#7  "Nice" and compassion seem to be taken as a sign of weakness of the West.
Posted by: JohnQC || 06/02/2007 18:45 Comments || Top||

#8  Suggestion to Siniora & the Lebanese army:

Kill 'em all - let Baby Asshole and Ahma-dinha-nutjob sort 'em out.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/02/2007 0:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Skip any surrendering and cut straight to the dieing part.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 0:26 Comments || Top||

#10  Would Siniora have shown this type of backbone vis-a-vis Fatah al-Islam if Israel had not responded with such forceful retaliation to Hezbollah's last provocation?

I highly doubt it.

As the Russians demonstrated with their take-no-prisoners response to Islamist militants in Chechnya, a clear side effect of demonstrating the willingness to use extensive force against radical Islamists is that "moderate" Muslims will only openly oppose the radicals once it becomes ruinous NOT to do so.

In reality, a substantial sector of the populations of many nations in which radical Islamists coexist do not support them. But a tepid response against Islamic militancy will rarely expose these societal divisions.

In essence, the part of the population which could be our greatest ally will only crystallize if we make it clear that we who stand against Islamic insurgents/terrorists are the "strong horse".
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/02/2007 2:34 Comments || Top||

#11  a clear side effect of demonstrating the willingness to use extensive force against radical Islamists is that "moderate" Muslims will only openly oppose the radicals once it becomes ruinous NOT to do so.

Unfortunately, we are so very far from making it ruinous for Muslims in general that there is little hope of any improvement. The West must overcome its squeamishness about collective punishment and begin to return Islam's favorite strategy in full measure. Only when Muslims feel our pain in equal or greater measure will they even begin to consider cleaning their own house. So far, we are trying to do this for them and making absolute fools of ourselves by doing so. Progress will come only when jihadis are being stacked up behind mosques like so much cordwood.

In essence, the part of the population which could be our greatest ally will only crystallize if we make it clear that we who stand against Islamic insurgents/terrorists are the "strong horse".

GP, while I understand the notion you are attempting to convey, you are severely mistaken if you think that Muslims of any sort will ever be our "ally" in any meaningful way.

The West will always be Islam's eternal enemy. Democracy enshrines sovereignty in the people, something that Islam absolutely will not tolerate with its dedication to theocracy. Self-rule flies in the face of religious law and renders Islam permanently imiscible with modern civilization.

Few Western leaders have as yet fully comprehended this concept and continue to deliver us into Islam's withering embrace.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 2:54 Comments || Top||

#12  GP, while I understand the notion you are attempting to convey, you are severely mistaken if you think that Muslims of any sort will ever be our "ally" in any meaningful way.

I respectfully disagree, and I could cite examples ranging from Muslims who act as translators for the U.S. military, the Iraqis who rose up to battle al Qaeda elements in their towns recently, and the citizens of reasonable countries such as Turkey or Jordan.

Yes, the Quran when interpreted literally is a 7th century handbook for subjugation and Islamic expansion. But just as Christians and Jews have advanced beyond the ancient literal roots and practices of their doctrinal tracts (stoning, eye-for-an-eye as justice, etc.) yet can retain their core beliefs in our modern world, there exist a great many nominal Muslims who can also make such distinctions.

For that reason I retain a degree of optimism that the vicious, backward and militant strains of Islamic thought will one day be superceded and made increasingly irrelevant as Muslim populations lean more toward secularism and rationalism.

The difficult task we face today is in containing the harm and diminishing the influence of the dangerous elements so that we can reach that better future.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 06/02/2007 3:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Muslims who act as translators for the U.S. military

We've also seen a fair share of Muslims in our military who commit murder and treason. The practice of taqiyya makes Muslims wholly unrelaible. Islam's overwhelming inertia with respect to cleaning its own house of jihadist filth is a powerful indicator of what we should expect overall.

the Iraqis who rose up to battle al Qaeda elements in their towns recently

While I appreciate your optimism, GP,there are many experts who would deem it to be misplaced. Just because Iraqis have opposed al Qaeda is no assurance that they intend to assist our own military efforts in any meaningful way. My own view is that they are protecting their turf from rival gangsters with no intention of actually taking on America's enemies.

But just as Christians and Jews have advanced beyond the ancient literal roots and practices of their doctrinal tracts (stoning, eye-for-an-eye as justice, etc.) yet can retain their core beliefs in our modern world, there exist a great many nominal Muslims who can also make such distinctions.

Again, I think you overestimate Islam's capacity for change. Ijtihad literally has no place in modern Islam. Al-Ghazali closed the door upon such innovation and reinterpretation some thousand years ago. Islamic doctrine is trapped in amber with apostasy and death the reward for any attempt at modification.
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 4:27 Comments || Top||

#14  Zenster, Islam may be incapable of change but I have hope that many muslims are reasonable people. Even if that means they are considered apostates by the hard-core islamists. If we can promote the idea (the reality really) that these islamists are just nasty, violent gangsters cloaking themselves with islam then the ordinary muslims can throw off the islamist mantle and, hopefully, get on with (ordinary) life.
Well, that's my hope anyway.
We have to first give them a chance and if that fails then we have no choice but to utterly defeat them.
Posted by: Gladys || 06/02/2007 7:08 Comments || Top||

#15  It just occurred to me that I sound like Al Q in the above comment - giving the infidels the chance to convert or die. But I guess that is what it all boils down to in the end. Our way of life or theirs - by force if necessary.
Posted by: Gladys || 06/02/2007 7:39 Comments || Top||

#16  Hear, hear Gladys!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 10:01 Comments || Top||


Lebanon's army crushes Fatah al-Islam in battle
At least 36 militants from Fatah al-Islam were killed in fierce clashes with the Lebanese army in north Lebanon's Nahr al-Bared Palestinian refugee camp Friday. The Lebanese army command, meanwhile, lost "two martyrs," and demanded that the militants surrender, or be eliminated.

According to a communiqué, the Lebanese Army urged "our Palestinian brothers not to provide safe haven to these criminals, and expel them from among the innocent civilians." "Army units have pursued their field operations around Nahr al-Bared camp in order to control buildings and areas that the gunmen are infiltrating to in order to open sniper fire on military and civilian centers," it added.

The army "succeeded in destroying their bases and controlling them with fire power, while further tightening its grip on them and foiling any attempts to infiltration" out of the camp. "There were many casualties among their (the militants) ranks, and some of them have fled while others have hidden among civilians in order to use them as human shields," the communiqué added.

The army, according to reliable sources, launched a three-pronged attack against Fatah al-Islam terrorists from the northern, eastern and southern flanks of the camp, 82 kilometers north of Beirut. Army troops backed by a heavy curtain of artillery fire punched through Fatah al-Islam defenses from the north and east destroying the terrorists' hideouts at the old naval base, the Samed and Khan buildings. One source said a 12-man Fatah al-Islam squad was "wiped out" by army fire as it tried to infiltrate out of the camp along the Nahr al-Bared river runway on the southern edge of the camp.

The army, according to the source, has blocked the terrorists' escape route to the mountains and the mere fact that they are trying to escape means that they their defenses are collapsing. Another Fatah al-Islam squad tried to escape by boat across Mediterranean waters from the northern sector of the camp, in an apparent effort to head to neighboring Syria, 10 kilometers further north, but they were killed by army shelling, the source said.

`The showdown between the Lebanese army and the Fatal al-Islam group began at 7 a.m. Friday morning when the army started shelling the camp very heavily. The soldiers have several 155-mm artillery guns on a hill about five kilometers to the east with a clear view of the Nahr al-Bared Palestinian refugee camp, where the radical Islamist group has been holed up for two weeks after initiating a series of attacks on government forces. Although Fatah al-Islam has past links to al-Qaeda, the Lebanese government says it has evidence that Syrian intelligence operatives are coordinating with it now. From where I am watching, near a frontline army position, there is a loud crack of artillery shells passing overhead every few seconds and an explosion inside the camp a few seconds after that.

Most of the shelling seems concentrated at the northern end of the camp, where the Fatah al-Islam base is located. But there is also shelling elsewhere, and huge plumes of black smoke are rising from the camp. There is a tank near our position that is firing rounds, too. We are close enough to the camp that the soldiers are shooting with M16 rifles as well.

A lot of what sounds like close-quarter fighting is coming from the edges of the camp. What the army has been doing is tightening the perimeter of the camp the last few days. As far as I can tell from my position, the army is softening up the camp with artillery fire before sending in commando units for street-to-street fighting. When I arrived today, there was a long column armored personnel carries and armored fighting vehicles. They were manned by special forces and looked like they were waiting to deploy inside the camp once the artillery shelling lifts up.

There is a lot of heavy machine gun fire, and it is hard to tell how much of that is the army's rounds going in or Fatah al-Islam's rounds coming out. Some local eyewitnesses told me that Fatah al-Islam attacked an army position earlier in the morning, either trying to push the army back or making a break for it. Three mortar rounds apparently fired by Fatah al-Islam landed in the neighboring village of Hamra this morning. There is a lot of sniping going on from inside the camp. Any vantage point where you can get a good view of the camp runs the risk of being fired upon.

Nahr al-Bared is a scruffy place, but you get a sense of the damage to the camp's buildings looking through binoculars from a distance. From outside the camp, there is no sign at all of Palestinian refugees. Many have fled the camp in the past two weeks. But now the entrances to the camp are blocked completely and no vehicles can get through at all. Whoever went to bed in Nahr al-Bared last night is still in there now. Outside the camp, there were Red Cross workers in bright orange uniforms sipping coffee, chilling out, waiting for the moment when the fighting dies down to go into the camp and take out casualties.

Nearby Lebanese townspeople are cheering the army on. Some took up arms when the clashes began last week and the army was caught by surprise by Fatah al-Islam attacks. Today, some armed locals took up positions in the hills and in the nearby villages, on the lookout for Fatah al-Islam supporters who might try to attack the army's rear position. "We want the army to go in and finish them off," says Faisal Obeid, 35, a civilian in Hamra who joined the fighting in support of the army two weeks ago. "We are willing to go into the camps and help."

Men in Hamra are sitting around makeshift coffee shops waiting for news of the fighting. "We are all supporting the Lebanese army here," says Marwan Zaatar, 33. "These people [in Fatah al-Islam] are not true Muslims. They are a gang of terrorists." That sums up the general mood. There is tension on the front lines, but local Lebanese are in good spirits. It's been a very noisy day.
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#1  If it was Isreal or the US, those deaths would be citizens.

Life is inherently unfair. Deal with it.
Posted by: Pappy || 06/02/2007 12:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Funny, no complaints about women, children and baby ducks in this article. Hmmmm. If it was Isreal or the US, those deaths would be citizens.
Posted by: Ol Dirty American || 06/02/2007 4:08 Comments || Top||

#3  "These people [in Fatah al-Islam] are not true Muslims. They are a gang of terrorists."

What's difference? How can anyone tell?
Posted by: Zenster || 06/02/2007 5:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Get some babes!
Have a carrot.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 7:02 Comments || Top||


Good morning...
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 12:53 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The spelling errors will be fixed tommorrow.
Posted by: Gary and the Samoyeds || 06/02/2007 11:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Pakistan, they tell us regularly, is a key ally in the War on Terror.

Yeah, for both sides...

Has it been a year already? My, how time flies when you're having fun! I'll get my subscription renewal out toot sweet.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 06/02/2007 12:17 Comments || Top||

#3  Congratulations and happy first anniversay to the fine folks who bring us the RB Defender-Scimitar and Times-Picayune.

Now about that porch light you broke last month...
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/02/2007 2:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Heh heh Sea. Vol II is arivee. Go, go Vol II!.
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 4:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Today's issue is a collector's item, for those who follow such things. Not only the 1st year anniversary issue (and how many of those is one privileged to see in a lifetime?) but an actual spelling error -- very, very few of those get past the eagle eye of the RDS&TP cipy editor!! ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 7:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Well, Rantburg does presentthe Awful Truth!
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 06/02/2007 8:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Your don spell titzup that way?
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 9:43 Comments || Top||

#8  cipy? ;-)
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 9:48 Comments || Top||


Barrages of spam...
Just so you know, we've been under attack by spambots for the past week or so. This doesn't mean that they haven't been visiting us previously; they've always been there. But now they're at a heavier level than before, seemingly intentionally trying to cripple the sites they infest. That leads me to believe their purpose isn't commercial.

This evening's most recent poor performance was thanks to www.sportjp.com, Shepherd Blalock of Chagrin Falls, Ohio, prop., offering fine web pages like http://www.sportjp.com/sports-betting-lines-las-vegas-odds.html. The overload comes from mulple hits on the front page within a few seconds from Shepherd's bots -- each of them with a cloaked IP -- which drives the number of connections over the max and eats up available memory.

Prior to Shepherd today we had identical appearances by bettingme.com (Daphine Mosher, of Forence, SC, prop., with pages like http://www.bettingme.com/online-sports-betting-line-horseracing.html), homewis.com(Josie Chester, of Fairview Park, OH, with http://www.homewis.com/do-home-insurance-claims-increase-rates.html, for example), pharmaopps.com (Lane Lamere, of St. Augustine, FL), rxonlinecenter.net (RegistrarAds, Inc, of Vancouver, WA), and insurancekon.com (at least Nia Weller of Kissimmee, FL, is honest about it.

Presumably these upstanding citizens sign up with some sort of service which promotes their fine products by getting them positions in other people's logs and somehow gives them better Google rankings. Or something. I remember reading something once upon a time on the subject, but I don't remember the details. I don't care. I'm just busy trying to design a filter to kill them all.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  hmm
16-06-2006 - sportjp.com became a deleted domain.
04-06-2007 - bettingme.com became a deleted domain.
etc...
Posted by: 3dc || 06/02/2007 12:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I'll be working under the hood most of the weekend to try and make us a little less pervious. My apologies in advance when things don't work right...
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 13:01 Comments || Top||

#3  thanks, Fred
Posted by: Frank G || 06/02/2007 13:55 Comments || Top||

#4  "Rantburg...Our Pervious now has 80% more Im!"
Posted by: Seafarious || 06/02/2007 14:18 Comments || Top||

#5  "Upstanding citizens", *snort*

It's a shame active countermeasures are unlawful, ain't it?
Posted by: mojo || 06/02/2007 15:34 Comments || Top||

#6  If they were, I'd be driving to South Carolina, then swinging north and west to Ohio.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 15:37 Comments || Top||

#7  I sees Fred working under the 150 year old Live Oakus in the town square.

Hit 'em with the damn mighty hammer blackmsitherMan!
Posted by: Shipman || 06/02/2007 17:42 Comments || Top||

#8  They've developed disease resistant American Chestnuts, Shipman. Let's plant one near the mighty live oak, and in half a century or so Fred will have something more traditional to hammer under. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 06/02/2007 20:11 Comments || Top||

#9  "My apologies in advance when things don't work right..."

Be like the Romanoffs, Fred: Never apologize, never explain. :-D

(And you certainly don't owe any explanations to us! We know the slowness and crap isn't your fault.)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/02/2007 21:38 Comments || Top||

#10  "these upstanding citizens"

Fred, you misspelled "vermin."

Spammers are lower than whale sh*t. >:-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 06/02/2007 0:15 Comments || Top||

#11  That's what I get for using synonyms. I couldn't remember whether "scum" has one "um" or two.

Never get old. You mind starts going.
Posted by: Fred || 06/02/2007 0:38 Comments || Top||

#12  I have absolutely no clue how all this works, but how about a front page that requires a little manual work before it allows an IP address to eat up much bandwidth without getting blocked for some period of time? Sorta like the guy at the club who peeps out the little window in the door to make sure only respectable clients can enter.

Now if we could just forward all this spam noise to whichever congressmen don't vote to make cruel and unusual punishment mandatory for spammers . . . . ;-)
Posted by: gorb || 06/02/2007 4:23 Comments || Top||

#13  I'm just busy trying to design a filter to kill them all.

I suggest you take a look at the offerings of Glock, Heshler & Koch, Browning, Colt...
Posted by: JFM || 06/02/2007 5:20 Comments || Top||

#14  Smith & Wesson, Etc. I'll operate the filter for you. Did you see they finaly busted the "Spam King" maybe this shit will taper off.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 06/02/2007 9:50 Comments || Top||



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