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2005-05-23 Iraq-Jordan
A Division of Iraqi Troops Trap Terrorists
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Posted by Steve 2005-05-23 8:32:01 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [382 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Ah-ha! This is a Division training exercise. To explain: Division operations are really unique, difficult, and something that cannot be learned in a book. Undoubtedly, we are bringing in one or more experienced Divisional staffs to fine-tooth-comb train the C&C of the 1st effective Iraqi Division. This training is literally worth millions or even billions of dollars to the Iraqis, because a competant and trained Divisional staff can take on a win against a half dozen comparably armed Divisions that do not have such competency, or whose training is inferior (read Soviet-style). Man, what a gift.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-05-23 13:54||   2005-05-23 13:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Hope you're right Mooseman. Sounds like an large scale ad-hoc raid to me. Unless an Iraqi division is going to use 3 batallions of MPs. :)
Posted by Shipman 2005-05-23 16:09||   2005-05-23 16:09|| Front Page Top

#3 Modern US Army doctrine is actually very stratified. There is a recognition that at each command level, the means, method and mode change dramatically. Companies and Battalions have a singleness of purpose, attached to a Brigade they are like fingers to a hand. But there the analogy ends, because at Division level, the Division is like a complete body. It thinks, communicates, eats, runs, jumps, kicks and punches. In earlier days it would have been called an Army, being the largest tactical unit in the field. Corps are in the realm of strategy, otherwise they are just the structure that keeps Divisions operating in concert. As seen in Iraq, the war is won with Divisions. And if Iraq has its first functioning Division, led by those who understand how a Division works, then it really has its first field Army. It will be the future model on which all subsequent Divisions are based.
Posted by Anonymoose 2005-05-23 21:58||   2005-05-23 21:58|| Front Page Top

#4 Aactually, the brigade is regarded by nearly every military in the world as a unit that is organized to fight and resupply on its own, a pocket division, if you will, due to the number of the staff in the headquarters and the more senior rank of the officers on the staff.

What is decsribed here is more like a reinforced brigade rather than a division, possibly component elements of a divison to be sure.

Under Saddam an Iraqi division was composed of three manuever brigades, similar to the size of a US divison**, but frankly with the firepower and combat correlation of a single US maneuver battalion.
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