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Britain
IRA Said to Threaten Slain Man's Family
Members of the outlawed Irish Republican Army are threatening to attack a Belfast family that has been focusing international attention on the IRA's killing of a Catholic man, sisters of the victim said Friday. The five sisters and fiancee of Robert McCartney, who was fatally stabbed and clubbed by IRA members outside a Belfast pub Jan. 30, have spent the past four months campaigning to bring his killers to justice.

While the McCartney family's efforts have won praise and support from the European Parliament and White House, back home in their hard-line neighborhood, witnesses to the attack have either been afraid or unwilling to give evidence to police. One of the sisters, Catherine McCartney, said Friday detectives had told the family of a threat from the IRA. "This threat implies that (Irish) republican elements are going to take action against the McCartney family if they continue to discredit the (Sinn Fein-IRA) republican movement," Catherine McCartney said.
Way too late for that, I'd say.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [262 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ahhh, yes. The Lions of Eire are at it again. Such heros.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 2:54 Comments || Top||

#2  What's up with the Nazi memorabilia? The IRA is plenty despicable on its own terms. Invoking the Nazis doesn't make them any more so. Even if it's done ironically.

Posted by: Classical_Liberal || 05/22/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#3  I use it only when they do Nazi-type stuff. Other stuff, other graphix...
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 18:38 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Belarus dumps Chechen killer
Belarus extradited to Russia Nurmagomed Khatuyev suspected of perpetrating terrorist acts in Budyonnovsk and Moscow, the Belarussian Prosecutor General's Office told RIA Novosti. "On Friday the Belarussian side extradited to Russia Nurmagomed Khatuyev who had been detained in Belarus and is suspected of being a member of Chechen bandit units and perpetrating terrorist acts in Budyonnovsk and the Dubrovka theater center in Moscow," a spokesman for the Belarussian Prosecutor General's Office said.

According to him, the operation was carried out in compliance with the Russian-Belarussian convention on legal assistance on civil, family and criminal cases. Khatuyev was detained at Minsk-2 airport in February 2005 when he was crossing the Belarussian border. The Belarussian law enforcement bodies found out that Khatuyev was wanted by Russian special services and was suspected of involvement in terrorist acts in Budyonnovsk and Moscow. Before the extradition Khatuyev was staying in a pre-trial detention center of the Belarussian state security committee. According to Belarussian law enforcers, this is not the first extradition to Russia in 2005. At the beginning of the year the Belarussian side already extradited Russians suspected of killing American journalist Paul Khlebnikov.
This article starring:
NURMAGOMED KHATUYEVChechnya
Posted by: Dan Darling || 05/22/2005 00:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under:

#1  buh-bye Nurmagomed. I diagnose a heart attack and severe bruising in your immediate future
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Travel does take its toll.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 9:57 Comments || Top||


Caucasus Corpse Count
FOUR Russian soldiers have been killed in fighting with separatists in Chechnya, a member of the pro-Russian Chechen administration has said.
The bullet riddled body of a Chechen policeman was also found near the capital Grozny, and a fifth Russian soldier was killed accidentally by a colleague at the Khankala military base.

The four soldiers were killed during 16 attacks by rebels since yesterday, the official said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 05/22/2005 00:17 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [270 views] Top|| File under:


Down Under
Q.C Okays Torture For Criminals & Terrorists
A FORMER chairman of the Australian National Crime Authority has spoken out in favour of torture, saying it should be used against terrorists and in domestic criminal situations.

Peter Faris, QC, today welcomed the debate sparked last week by the head of Deakin University's law school, Mirko Bagaric, who said torture was acceptable in some circumstances.
Mr Faris, who chaired the national crime body from 1989-1990, has acted as a senior prosecutor and has represented high-profile clients such as alleged underworld figure Carl Williams.

Mr Faris said it would be acceptable to use torture in criminal investigations.

"A psychopathic murderer has buried a teenage girl alive and he is captured by the police," an example on Mr Faris's blog website says.

"He refuses to say where she is. He taunts the police with his knowledge. Torture is acceptable to find the girl and to save her life."

Mr Faris said his example was taken from the film Dirty Harry.

In the case of terrorism, Mr Faris suggests: "A militant Islamic group in Iraq is holding a hostage in an unknown location and is threatening to kill the hostage.

"A member of that group is captured, but refuses to disclose the whereabouts of the hostage and the rest of the group. Torture is acceptable."

He said there were no guarantees that torture would work - "if you don't get the information, you don't get the information".

However, "to pull out a fingernail of a terrorist in order to save a couple of million lives" was morally right, he said.

"I'm not saying 'let's legislate immediately'," Mr Faris said.

"What I'm trying to establish is that this is a legitimate issue to be on the table for debate ... but people start saying you're a Nazi because you want to debate it."

Mr Faris said legislating for torture was not an ideal situation.

"It's certainly not a society we want, the problem is these problems are thrust upon us by war ... they may be thrust upon us by a psychotic individual."

On his website, Mr Faris says: "We are at war with terror and militant Islam in the Middle East. We are at war with Islamic terror in our homeland.

"From time to time, circumstances will occur where it is necessary to use physical force on a captured person to obtain critical information."

Mr Faris said standards of acceptable torture would have to be set if it were to be used.

"Some sort of standard would have to be developed for the reasonable application of pain," he said.

The National Crime Authority was replaced by the Australian Crime Commission in 2003.

Professor Bagaric last week attracted an avalanche of criticism after revelations of his support for torture.

Torture survivor groups, civil libertarians and some of Professor Bagaric's university colleagues reacted with dismay at news of a paper co-authored by him, which would soon be published in the United States.

The paper, also written by Deakin law lecturer Julie Clarke, argues the case for the torture of suspects - even to the point of death - in a bid to obtain information.
Posted by: Spavirt Pheng6042 || 05/22/2005 02:23 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  it is a legitimate issue for debate. Better to discuss it and come up with realistic guidelines than to pretend that there is never any reason ..ever...to use torture. He gave good examples.

The danger of acknowledging the necessity of evil is always abuse in the name of a higher cause.
Posted by: 2b || 05/22/2005 14:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Some techniques work, some not, but it is better to have the torture options available, than to take them off the table ahead of time.
Posted by: Abuqaqa || 05/22/2005 20:10 Comments || Top||

#3  Lol! Abu Qaqa? Shit, that rocks, lol!
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 20:48 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Philippine Troops Told to Rescue Indonesian Hostages in Jolo
Amid criticisms of government inaction, the military commander for the southern Philippines yesterday ordered troops to rescue three kidnapped Indonesian seamen held by suspected Abu Sayyaf extremists. Lt. Gen. Alberto Braganza flew to Jolo Island and personally gave the order for troops to do their best to rescue the Indonesian seamen, who were taken hostage on March 30 by gunmen off Mataking Island near the Sabah border.

The hostages were crew members of the tugboat Bongagaya 91, owned by the Malaysian boat firm, Syarikat Pengangkutan Bonggaya. The vessels were returning to Sandakan in Sabah from East Kalimantan when the bandits attacked them. "We are continuing our rescue operation to track down and rescue the three Indonesian nationals. We have intensified our search for the hostages and their captors," General Braganza told reporters in the troubled island of Jolo yesterday.

Jakarta has asked the Philippine government to act swiftly on the safe recovery of the victims, Ahmad Resmiyadi, 32; Yamin Labaso, 26; and Erikson Hutagaol, 23. The kidnappers have demanded three million ringgits ($789,600) in exchange for the safe release of the hostages. The gang said it would kill one of the hostage if ransom is not paid. The demand was sent Thursday to the Indonesian Consulate in Sabah.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Syrian and Saudi Pro Democracy Reformers meet Sharansky
This is a Rantburg Exclusive since I was a witness.

There is a fellow in my synagogue who is a big linguist and pro democracy (and pro Bush) fan and he has a lot of friends in the mid east. He was sponsoring a light meal Saturday pm (Seudah Shalishit) in memory of the anniversary of the death of his mother (yarzeit) and invited some his friends.

Natan Sharansky came (and sat near me for the morning (Shaharit) service. In the afternoon (we eat a light meal after the afternoon prayer- Mincha, and before the evening prayer - Maariv), Sharansky and members (including Farid Ghadry) of the reform party of Syria (see: http://reformsyria.org/) and members of a reform party of Saudi Arabia (they call themselves Arabians not Saudis because they detest the ruling tribe) had something of a love in. They finished each others sentences - they spoke English sometimes and Arabic at other times.

Posted by: mhw || 05/22/2005 09:35 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [266 views] Top|| File under:

#1  mhw: do these reform-minded arabs have any real clout?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 05/22/2005 9:58 Comments || Top||

#2  PlantDan

Right now they have not real clout. The one in Syrian is reasonably well organized and the well educated part of the population is favorably inclined. Also, the regime is not as vicious to dissent as, for example Saddam. My own impression of Mr. Ghadry was that he didn't seem 'tough' enough to compete in the Syrian arena.

The Arabians are probably even more marginalized. Among the issues they have on their side is resentment by the Western tribes (the ones in Mecca and Medina) against the regime because the regime is so corrupt and the issue that the regime is sponsoring various mosque and military building activities that are destroying cultural resources in their area. There is a lot of resentment against this but its just grumbling.
Posted by: mhw || 05/22/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||


New Flare-Up on Lebanon, Israel Border
Lebanese militiamen fired rockets on the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms yesterday, causing no casualties, in response to Israeli warning fire at shepherds who had entered prohibited territory, officials on both sides said. "In response to Israeli fire targeting the Lebanese village of Shebaa, Hezbollah fired around a dozen rockets on the sector," a Lebanese policeman said.
"See? See? You guys can't disarm us! You need us to protect against Zionist aggression!"
That was confirmed by a military source in Jerusalem, who said fighters from Lebanon "fired at least eight missiles or rockets toward the Har Dov area." The shooting came shortly after a group of shepherds and their flocks crossed into the Shebaa Farms, but were scared off when Israeli troops fired warning shots into the air. The Lebanese police said heavy Israeli machine-gun fire damaged five houses. "About half an hour later, the cross-border shelling started with high-trajectory firing at the Har Dov area," the Israeli source said. "This is another example of cross-border escalation which is completely unacceptable." Hezbollah said "our fighters responded to the Israeli fire, which hit houses in the village of Shebaa, by bombarding the position at Rweissat Al-Alam."
"See? See?"
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [284 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Syrian & Iranian terrorist trains, arms and funds the Islamic fanatics of Hezbollah.



If the Iranian-Syrian proxies provoke Israel via shelling northern Israeli towns & IDF outposts, they should not be shocked when Israel reaches its limit and swiftly responds with a heavy air strikes and or tank/land toops, depending on the situation.



For a true workable government in Lebanon and a secure northern Israel border, Hezbollah must be dismantled. The best way whould be to alter the 'leadership' in Tehran & Damascus. In doing so funding & a large portion of weapons shipments for the likes of Hezbollah, Hamas & Islamic Jihad, will dry up very quickly.

Only direct weapons shipments being sneaked over the southern Gaza border, from Egypt, would remain a problem.

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/22/2005 6:10 Comments || Top||

#2  1400 year ago a big mistake happened. The more correction is postponed, the costlier it's going to be.
Posted by: gromgoru || 05/22/2005 13:53 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
'Executed hostage' was Iraqi businessman not U.S Pilot
THE US military has denied any of its servicemen are missing after the claimed execution of a US pilot in Iraq.

It now appears the victim of an apparent hostage-taking and killing was an Iraqi-American businessman.
Militants led by al-Qaeda's frontman in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, claimed today to have executed the man four days after he was seized in Baghdad.

"Your brothers in Al-Qaeda in the Land of Two Rivers got their hands on a US pilot who turned out to have bombarded several mosques and the Sheraton hotel in Baghdad during the invasion of Iraq, as well as several civilian homes," the group said in an internet statement.

The statement was accompanied by pictures of an Illinois driving licence identifying the purported victim as Neenus Y. Khoshaba, a US national born on November 27 1948.

The statement said that "after questioning this infidel, the divine verdict was applied to him".

Although the statement identified the hostage as a pilot, the US military has now denied that any of its servicemen had gone missing.

A high-ranking official with Iraq's Assyrian Democratic party identified Mr Khoshaba as a US-Iraqi businessman from an Assyrian family who was kidnapped last week.

"I can't confirm his death, but I can identify the hostage," the official said.

"Mr Khoshaba was a US-Iraqi businessman based in Chicago who moved back to Iraq after the war in 2003.

"He was apparently tricked by a group of people posing as representatives from the oil ministry, who told him that they were looking for someone with a dual nationality and had business opportunities to offer him.

"There had been no word from him since," he said.

Mr Khoshaba lived near Baghdad Jadida, in eastern Baghdad.

The group led by Zarqawi, Iraq's most wanted man, has claimed a string of devastating attacks as well as kidnappings since the fall of Saddam Hussein.
Posted by: Spavirt Pheng6042 || 05/22/2005 19:04 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [274 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Infidels,

My apologies for the confusion. I obtained my information from Newsweek. That says enough, does it not?

Got to hop.

Posted by: Abu Musab al-Zarqawi || 05/22/2005 20:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Goodness, we are clever here at Rantburg, aren't we! Please join me in a moment of self-congratulation before we mourn the death of this gentleman at the impious hands of Allah's Rejects. May his murderers soon be captured, and convicted in the Iraqi Courts they refuse to accept as the will of the people they claim to act for.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 20:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Goddamnit. That's truly sad. We certainly don't need any more reasons to hunt down anyone associated with these psychopaths, but they keep providing them. Upscale the arms of the Wolf Brigade. Farm out some of their people to "seed" other Iraqi units with the spirit and gumption for this shitty job. Turn'em loose. No hard ROE, no quarter. Fire with fire.

Apologies to Mr Khoshaba's family and friends, I'm very sorry it turned out to be true they had him.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 21:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Condolences.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 21:34 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
IRAQI & U.S FORCES PUT THE SQUEEZE ON BAGHDAD
US and Iraqi forces have launched a massive operation involving more than 2,000 troops to crack down on insurgents on the western outskirts of Baghdad.

Four Iraqi Army battalions and three special police commando battalions, backed by US troops, have launched the vast sweep, dubbed "Operation Squeeze Play".

It is one of the largest post-war military operations in the capital to date.

Battalions generally comprise 300 to 400 troops.

The ongoing operation is focused on the Abu Ghraib neighbourhood in the capital, from which many of the deadly attacks carried out daily on the perilous airport road are thought to originate.

The US military says the forces involved in the ongoing raid "detained a substantial number of suspected terrorists" but did not provide specific numbers.

There are no immediate reports of any resistance by insurgents.

The month of May has been one of the bloodiest since the March 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, with relentless car bombs and other attacks killing more than 500 people.

Convoys carrying US troops, private security guards, foreign contractors and journalists are frequently hit on the airport road, a 12-kilometre stretch nicknamed the "Death Strip".
Posted by: Spavirt Pheng6042 || 05/22/2005 19:08 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [299 views] Top|| File under:

#1  bout time? West baghdad? Why that would be Sunniland, no?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 21:22 Comments || Top||


Zarqawi group says US pilot executed
MILITANTS in Iraq today claimed to have executed an American hostage in a statement on the internet, which was accompanied by pictures of the man's driving licence. The group, headed by al-Qaeda's frontman in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said the victim was a US pilot. "Your brothers in Al-Qaeda in the Land of Two Rivers got their hands on a US pilot who turned out to have bombarded several mosques and the Sheraton hotel in Baghdad during the invasion of Iraq, as well as several civilian homes," the statement said.
Um. No hostage video, no execution video, just pics of a driver's license? Color me skeptical.
"After questioning this infidel, the divine verdict was applied to him." The statement's authenticity could not be verified.
I'll say.
It did not specify the date of the man's kidnapping, but was accompanied by pictures of an Illinois driving licence in the name of Neenus Y. Khoshaba, born on November 27 1948.
A moment of silence for Mr. Khoshaba's ID, please.
There was no immediate comment from the US military.
"We'll get back to you on that. Later. Much later."
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 16:18 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [293 views] Top|| File under:

#1  56 years old?
Posted by: NUMA NUMA || 05/22/2005 17:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Neenus? Jeebus
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 17:18 Comments || Top||

#3  The plot thickens:
http://www.baghdadbazar.com/info.aspx?theID=2629
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 17:25 Comments || Top||

#4  Having just had their asses handed to them again in AL Qaim etc, and with nothing else to show recently other than piles of dead Iraqi civilians, Zarqawi's Top Notch Propaganda Corps(tm) reaches into the same bag of lame tricks that produced the "Cody" incident last February.
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 05/22/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||

#5  http://blogs.it/0100206/categories/magazzino/baghdad.pdf

Baghdad Bazar: many other links including Deutsche Bank report and several Friends of the Earth moonbat reports.
Posted by: NN || 05/22/2005 17:51 Comments || Top||

#6  http://www.chicagobusiness.com/downloads/Real12_03.txt
DocNum Zone Address City Township Amount RecordDate buyers sellers
0313920258 03 3834 W Jerome Skokie Niles $495,000 5/19/2003 Pierre Natacha,Matellus Audin Khoshaba Neenus Y
Posted by: Spomolet Chick1592 || 05/22/2005 17:53 Comments || Top||

#7  ROFL, Tom!!!

He shoots! He scores!

Lol, man - are they fuckwits or what? Lol! Too funny... They make up shit to peddle to their gullible Arab brothers. We couldn't make shit up that lame if we had to. Our built-in BS Detectors would peg and we'd try to be more clever. I'd say it's pretty clear that this little jewel is missing in some of humanity's nether branches. Like tongue-rollers or ear-wigglers or something. Missing the Bullshit Detector. Wow. I just knew that watching all those TV commercials (and Hollyweird movies, lol) would turn out to be a good thing, someday, lol! Brings new meaning to mea culpa, no?

Kudos, Tom. That just freakin' blows it out of the water, lol!
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 17:59 Comments || Top||

#8  I don't follow, NN. Your PDF file link contains no reference to Khoshaba.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 18:00 Comments || Top||

#9  Hmmm. It looks like Neenus is one of those refugee Iraqis who went back home to set up a furniture manufacturing business. This looks a lot more like a kidnapping for extortion, which so many of the locals have experienced post-invasion. Good research, guys!
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 18:04 Comments || Top||

#10  So, SC - he's a furniture dealer in Baghdad and speculates in real estate with his partners Pierre and Matellus? Domicile? Baghdad, lol!

They Google! They shoot! They miss!

Lessee, where is that bin laden California DL image... oh yeah -- here.

Amateurs at everything except Murder and setting the standard for Asstards, lol!
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 18:07 Comments || Top||

#11  {bowing] Thank you, .com! I'd just like to add that this fine article was brought to the world by our good friends at AFP.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 18:08 Comments || Top||

#12  Tom... use the "find" tool to search download doc from 2003. It just basically shows a record of a person by the same name in a real estate transaction in the Chicago, Ill area. The doc number can also lead you to this 2003 record... doesn't mean its the same person, but who knows.
Posted by: Spomolet Chick1592 || 05/22/2005 18:09 Comments || Top||

#13  I was addressing NN, Spomolet Chick1592. I found your info just fine.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 18:13 Comments || Top||

#14  Tom, I briefly searched the history/links for the company at the link in your post.


>IF, IF Neenus Y. Khoshaba is a real person, and by extention the co. is too....then Is it a cover for an agency?

Or just total disinformation by Muslim Murder Inc?

As you can see in my first post, I was skeptical and remain so.

Posted by: NUMA NUMA || 05/22/2005 18:33 Comments || Top||

#15  If and many ifs this person is real, there is no doubt that on this planet there are people by many names ne'r heard before. His name is unique and almost sounds Kurdish... not Arabic. Regardless.. Many people have been taking on contractor jobs over there and for some its a risk worth taking to achieve one financial goal or another. Its the chance of a lifetime for others and many people do go over for just those kind of simple goals... they care less about the nobler reasons we like to endear and propagate. Some are noble in their reasons and God bless them. I think this person is real and perhaps was picked up or nabbed or got stupid and blundered into the wrong place at the wrong time. He might not even be dead. He may have lost his wallet somewhere in the Green Zone and the contents are being exploited... time will tell though and we could all look goofy. I also don't believe that any of our fine agencies are hiding who they are anymore for over two years now... they stand out too much and wear clothes out of sync with everyone else, arm themselves with different firearms and drive nicer SUVs over there.
Posted by: Spomolet Chick1592 || 05/22/2005 18:45 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
New Delhi Cinemas Hit By Blasts
Did the Sikhs dunnit?
Bomb explosions have rocked two cinemas in the Indian capital New Delhi. One person has been killed and 49 others have been injured, local news stations reported. A loud explosion shook the Liberty Cinema Hall in the crowded shopping district of Karol Bagh in the capital during a film screening and was followed by a bomb blast in the Satyam cineplex in neighbouring Patel Nagar. "The bomb was strapped to a seat in the fifth row of the Liberty Cinema hall. A second bomb concealed in a bathroom of the Satyam cineplex went off fifteen minutes later," Delhi Police chief K.K Paul said.
Twin booms close together. Somebody wanted to make a point.
"We have sealed both the cinema halls. At least 18 people have been rushed to Lady Harding Hospital in a serious condition. There are others who have suffered minor injuries and have been given first aid," he added. At the time of the explosions, both theatres were showing a controversial Hindi-language film that has been condemned by Sikh religious leaders for denigrating their faith. Police declined to comment on whether any Sikh group was suspected of involvement in the blasts.
"We will say no more!"
Days after its release more than a week ago, the film, Jo Bole So Nihal, was pulled from most theatres in northern India after Sikh groups demanded a ban on it. They were angered by its title and scenes depicting a Sikh character being chased by scantily clad women.
Never that! Surely not...the scantily-clad wimmin...
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 16:06 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [283 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Movie Critics. Bomb-throwers. Merged.

I normally have sincere respect for Sikhs, but...

I was in Goa in '92 during the Festival of Colours, a celebration of something or other where the Hindus throw water-based paint on each other. I was sitting on the wall, looking out over the beach to the ocean, in the back of the Holiday Inn - watching the festivities. A huge beach packed with revelers. A few gunshots rung out, but I couldn't see anything. A couple of days later, while dining out with a couple of stock brokers I had met at the hotel, they explained it was a Sikh and he had killed one of the Hindus for inadvertently splashing some paint on him during the happy mêlée on the beach.

This is The Global Age of Organized Touchiness. And it's armed to the teeth.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 16:43 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Terrs Insurgents Sentenced to Death.
Kut - An Iraqi court on Sunday sentenced three members of the Ansar al-Sunna extremist group to death for rape, murder and kidnapping, an AFP correspondent reported. This was the first time the death penalty was handed in Iraq since the government of Prime Minister Ibrahim Jaafari was sworn in earlier this month.

The three men - aged 25, 30 and 44 - were found guilty of involvement in 20 different operations during which they killed and captured Iraqi police and raped Iraqi women. The special criminal court in Kut said the sentence would be carried out "in the coming 10 days". Members of the public attending the trial applauded the sentence and shouted "Long live justice". It was not immediately clear how the three insurgents would be executed. Ansar al-Sunna is a network of extremist Islamist organisations in Iraq which has carried out some of the bloodiest attacks and killings since the March 2003 US-led invasion.
Posted by: Jinert Slang5897 || 05/22/2005 13:54 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [372 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A good thing. Now they must carry out sentence.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 05/22/2005 15:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Right, SPoD. IIRC Jaafari is on record as being against the death penalty. Wondering if this has any implications for Sadaam.
Posted by: xbalanke || 05/22/2005 20:16 Comments || Top||

#3  I think he said he was personally against the death penalty, but would allow others to make that decision wrt Saddam Hussein, for the good of the entire country.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 20:45 Comments || Top||

#4  He was gonna go have a nice lie-down, somewhere in the UK, IIRC.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 20:49 Comments || Top||

#5  "What are the bugles blowin' for?" said Files-on-Parade./
"To turn you out, to turn you out," the Color-Sergeant said./
"What makes you look so white, so white?" said Files-on-Parade./
"I'm dreadin' what I've got to watch," the Color-Sergeant said./
For they're hangin' Danny Deever, you can hear the Dead March play,/
The regiment's in 'ollow square--they're hangin' him today;/
They've taken of his buttons an' cut his stripes away,/
An' they're hangin' Danny Deever in the mornin'.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/22/2005 22:09 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Egyptian Police Arrest 11 Muslim Brotherhood Leaders
The article's title:
Egypt police arrest opposition leaders
The subtitle:
Egyptian security authorities have arrested 11 Muslim Brotherhood leaders, including the group's Secretary-General Mahmud Izzat.
And it goes on from there:
Aljazeera's correspondent in Cairo said on Sunday that 11 further members of the group were also arrested, including six from the al-Jiza governorate, three from Cairo, and one each from Alexandria and al-Gharbiya...
They also reference an AP article with a different number of arrests.
Izzat, who is head of the Cairo operations of the banned but tolerated opposition movement, is the highest-profile member arrested since 1996, a police official said. Mohammed Mahdi Akif, the supreme guide of the group, told Aljazeera on Sunday that the arrests were in response to the group's determination to continue demanding freedom of citizens and respect of the constitution and the law. Akif vowed the arrests would not prevent the group from abiding by its demands. "The arrests, practised by the government to terrify us, would not change the Muslim Brotherhood group's determination to continue demanding people's right to freedom," he said.
We certainly are backing ourselves into a corner with our support of "Horseman Without A Horse" Mubarak. He runs a virtual dictatorship and allows as his only opposition the virtual parent organization of Al Qaeda, which then gets to pretend they're all about freedom and democracy.
This article starring:
MAHMUD IZZATMuslim Brotherhood
MOHAMED MAHDI AKIFMuslim Brotherhood
Muslim Brotherhood
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 05/22/2005 13:51 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I thought I'd posted this to P. 2... well, thanks anyway for the improved formatting. One of these days we need to come up with a "style guide" for these sort of things.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 05/22/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Unseen pictures, untold stories
A review of six prominent U.S. newspapers and the nation's two most popular newsmagazines during a recent six-month period found almost no pictures from the war zone of Americans killed in action. During that time, 559 Americans and Western allies died. The same publications ran 44 photos from Iraq to represent the thousands of Westerners wounded during that same time. Many photographers and editors believe they are delivering Americans an incomplete portrait of the violence that has killed 1,797 U.S. service members and their Western allies and wounded 12,516 Americans.

Journalists attribute the relatively bloodless portrayal of the war to a variety of causes — some in their control, others in the hands of the U.S. military, and the most important related to the far-flung nature of the conflict and the way American news outlets perceive their role. "We in the news business are not doing a very good job of showing our readers what has really happened over there," said Pim Van Hemmen, assistant managing editor for photography at the Star-Ledger of Newark, N.J. "Writing in a headline that 1,500 Americans have died doesn't give you nearly the impact of showing one serviceman who is dead," Van Hemmen said. "It's the power of visuals."

Publishing such photos grabs readers' attention, but not always in ways that news executives like. When the Star-Ledger and several other papers ran the Babbitt photo in November, their editors were lashed by some readers — who called them cruel, insensitive, even unpatriotic. Deirdre Sargent, whose husband was deployed to Iraq, e-mailed editors of the News Tribune of Tacoma, Wash., that the photo left her "shaking and in tears for hours." She added: "It was tacky, unprofessional and completely unnecessary."
Much more at the link...
Posted by: Cog || 05/22/2005 05:55 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [294 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder how the press would feel if we started publishing photos of dead reporters.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 05/22/2005 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  "Writing in a headline that 1,500 Americans have died doesn't give you nearly the impact of showing one serviceman who is dead," Van Hemmen said. "It's the power of visuals."

If you want to have an impact-- a much more appropriate impact, at that-- why not show more of the pictures of the planes smashing into the WTC towers? And show pictures of the people jumping-- the people on the top floors who were forced to make one final, agonizing choice: jump, and die quickly on the pavement far below, or burn to death in the fires.

And to really drive the point home, show those pictures you have somewhere of the bodies of those jumpers, where they landed *SPLAT* on the pavement.

Because THAT is why we're fighting, Pim Van Hemmen: so it won't happen again someday, to you or perhaps even to one of your children.

You DO want us to prevent that, don't you???
Posted by: Dave D. || 05/22/2005 10:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Go read Mudville Gazette. Greyhawk nails it.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 10:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeah, remember reading about this exact same debate 60 years ago: "Roosevelt lied, people died", "Germany never attacked us", "Let's show more pictures of US casualties from the Battle of the Bulge".

Oh wait, that didn't happen ...
Posted by: DMFD || 05/22/2005 10:41 Comments || Top||

#5  So, to update a very bitter jest about photographers....
"If you have a choice between adminstering first aid to a mortally wounded soldier, and getting a Pulitzer-prize winning picture of that soldier... what kind of film would you use?"
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 05/22/2005 10:41 Comments || Top||

#6  There's lots of thing that could be published and aren't. For example, videotapes of the meetings at which the editors of the LA Times decide what stories are going to be printed and which ones aren't.

"One of our stringers says an army engineer battalion has built five schools in Iraq over the last year. Let's go with it."

"You're kidding, aren't you?"
Posted by: Matt || 05/22/2005 10:49 Comments || Top||

#7  "Oh wait, that didn't happen..."

I'm beginning to wonder: were the press gung-ho during WWII because they were genuinely patriotic? Or because, unlike wars since then, we were fighting on the same side as their beloved "Uncle Joe" Stalin?

I really, REALLY wonder...
Posted by: Dave D. || 05/22/2005 10:50 Comments || Top||

#8  There is *no* way to show photographs of dead people, friendly *or* enemy, that reflects well on the US military. This is because the photograph in no way shows the events leading up to that "still life"--no context, intellectual, emotional, or physical. As such, photographs just demoralize the viewer. They have a morbid fascination only for those attracted to images of autopsies and fatal accidents--and those who seek to exploit them. How much sympathy would the public have for police officers if, when they killed someone, the dead body was displayed in the newspaper? It would not matter that the dead man was a heavily armed drug-crazed killer randomly shooting into a crowd. All the public would see is a gruesome mass of torn flesh. What other response could they have then revulsion, directed at the police? Couldn't the police have done something other than kill the poor man?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/22/2005 11:42 Comments || Top||

#9 

Never forget.
Posted by: gromky || 05/22/2005 11:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Just incredible.

There folks are actually sad they are not showing dead Americans.

This story says to me the media want to show dead Americans because that is their favorite thing. It makes them feel humanitarian and make them feel like our betters.

"Now see this, children?> This is what happens when you go to war..."

F*ck 'em. The end.
Posted by: badanov || 05/22/2005 12:44 Comments || Top||

#11  Strangely enough, the press was squeamish about publishing the pictures of WTC victims in gory detail. I guess the press really isn't interested in the truth - just what suits its particular agenda of the moment.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/22/2005 12:55 Comments || Top||

#12  In citing politics, a "truer picture", as a reason to increase the publication of disturbing pictures from Iraq, these MSM leaders are as much as admitting that political considerations, and not the feelings of survivors and relatives, are the real reason for suppressing so many of the World Trade Center Images.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/22/2005 12:57 Comments || Top||

#13  Ah, yes, the impact of visuals. Pictures are a powerful way to enhance the truth, if the selection and presentation is consistent with the facts, but they can also lie for the same reason. When the BBC covered the "Thunder Run" into Baghdad, they portrayed it as a catastrophic American defeat simply with the right selection of pictures. Only burning American vehicles were shown, with multiple images of the same M-1 tank (the one and only US tank lost in the operation). The images of the M-1 were prominently labelled as destroyed American "armor," which coincidentally avoids the singular noun, obscuring the fact that the pictures were all of the same tank. Pictures of blown-up Iraqi tanks were shown immediately after the images of the destroyed M-1 and with their nationality not indicated.
This combination of order and captioning invited the obvious but mistaken conclusion that the destroyed Iraqi tanks were American vehicles as well. Indeed, no other conclusion would have been reasonable if one were not fairly familiar with armored vehicles.

American soldiers were shown only when they were wounded, running for cover, or fighting desperately, while the insurgents were shown only in heroic or triumphant poses. The accompanying text was straightforward and factual, the Iraqi forces had been slaughtered, but the selection of photos, supposedly to augment the facts, was worth a thousand lies.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/22/2005 13:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Since the LA Times gets to have reporters embedded with the military, why doesn't the miltary get reciprocal courtesy, like a Marine gunnery sergeant embedded with the LA Times editorial board.

"Sir, if you publish that photo I will rip your arm off and beat you to death with it, I kid you not. With all due respect, sir."
Posted by: Matt || 05/22/2005 13:27 Comments || Top||

#15  The obvious way to circumvent this is to educate the public in the once-commonplace methodology of critical thinking and rational skepticism.
Anyone who draws factual conclusions from a selection of photographs is a sheep, a victim, and a fool. If people could properly evaluate these kinds of non-rational appeals, they would be immune to most forms of media distortions. Unfortunately, they would also be immune to many advertising appeals, which is probably the real reason the media culture and its leftist shills do everything possible to suppress genuine education in critical thinking.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/22/2005 13:28 Comments || Top||

#16  Matt, you make a good point.

A lot of these folks will return from Iraq/Afghanistan and they will go to college and they will start to get into the upper reaches of media and will make things right.

That's the plan, anyway.
Posted by: badanov || 05/22/2005 13:38 Comments || Top||

#17  Indeed, Badanov. This is already happening in academia. The traitorous Vietnam generation of professors, the draft-dodgers and left shills, are getting old. They and the two generations of conformists they have indoctrinated continue to dominate the academic world, but there are many signs that the fascade is cracking. A new and radical generation of historians has appeared for example, typified by the veterans and young people who run the Center for the Study of the Vietnam War at Texas Tech. They have access to original source material and their conclusions are often damning to those in higher positions of tenure and status.
One grad assistant at the Center told me recently, "Doc, since I've been here, I've learned that nearly everything I was taught about Vietnam is a lie. The bastards lied to us, all of them from Kindergarten to undergrad, and I am going to set it straight."
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 05/22/2005 14:05 Comments || Top||

#18  One grad assistant at the Center told me recently, "Doc, since I've been here, I've learned that nearly everything I was taught about Vietnam is a lie. The bastards lied to us, all of them from Kindergarten to undergrad, and I am going to set it straight."

Proof, positive, there is a God.
Posted by: badanov || 05/22/2005 14:09 Comments || Top||

#19  Ouch, Sgt. Mom!

Truer words were never spoken.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/22/2005 14:42 Comments || Top||

#20  Once again, having negotiated the labyrinthine spin, seeming couter-spin, and ill-wrought, falsely premised conclusion, the BM expects us to feel sorrow for their inability to, as they would have it, *sniff*, depict "what has really happened over there,"

No mention, again of the prodigeous body of visual evidence, provided by "the al Jazeera Terrorist Network" (I'm not making this up, those are the actual words of News weak's editor Mark Whitaker in a minor audio faux pas) of the video taped beheadings, abuse and mutilation of "what happened over there". All such images self censored by the Lame Stream Media.
And why the use of the past tense? Aern't citizens still held captive on threat of more beheading, and the follow-up beheading video that will be attributed, this next time, to newsweaks' slanders.

Where were you, Wim Bim Lim Pim van Hemmmen, when hundreds of years old Christian Churches were burnt to the ground, by "ehtnic Albanians" (trans - Muslims in Kosovo? Alotta unanswered, much less even asked, questions, you flthy narcicissist, and don't try and tell me you ran out of film. Its always *sniff* about you, isn't it Mr. Van Lemming?

We don't share your self absortion about your shortcomings, and your un-accomplished agenda, now do we? People hate your guts for what you've done, and will continue to do.

Look at any BM follow-up defence of Newsweep by the Washboard, the slimes, thelefty blogs ,etc. --Quotation after quotation from Scott McClellan Scott McClellan, Condi rice, Donald Rumsfeld, Gen. Richard Myers, and quotations from some "holy men" in Pakistan, who started (back) up the whole shitstorm, with Newsweeks help, and not so much as a answer, much less a qestion from or directed to newsweek as to the reponsibility of the BM as to the lives and the deaths, and murders caused directly from the seditious actions of the Media.

I want those responsible fog-marched to prison over this. Care to comment on that News week? Wim Bim Lame Tim Pim Hemmen my skirt? You freak.
Posted by: an dalusian dog || 05/22/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||

#21  a bunch of sad pathetic losers who hung their hat with tyrants who raped, pillaged and massacred millions - if not billions. But hey, it made them feel important to proclaim they were better, smarter and more enlightened than the established wise men of the ages.

same ol' same ol'. The pendulum (sp?) swings back and forth.

The only reason that these self-righteous, wanna-be brats were able to pull off, for so long, their superiority charade, is because they sucked the air out of a brief opportunity in time when technology allowed them to control the press under the guisse of "freedom of the press". These carpet baggers and snake-oil salesmen profited wisely. They learned well how to manipulate the system for their own gain, some to profit financially, some just to soothe their feelings of inferiorty. It was a unique time in the world when they simply allowed to abused a privilige that was granted to them by good men who bequeathed them the privilege in blood. Good people were at a loss as to how to maintain the higher goal of a free press, while shutting down these bottom-feeding scum.

well..times have changed. we are all older and wiser. They are what they are... The emperors have no clothes.
Posted by: 2b || 05/22/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#22  "I wonder how the press would feel if we started publishing photos of dead reporters."

I would say there isn't enough of them and demand more Robert. I see the MSM as an extention of the groups attacking western civilization. The press regulary give aid and comfort to terrorists. This lamentation of not enough pictures to sell their propagana is just proof of that.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 05/22/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#23  Never speaks to the mission, the bravery, courage, and honor of our fallen heros--only considers the "cost" of war. Pretty damn jaded, which is precisely why there is so little access, etc.

So, keep whining from the comforts of the Baghdad hotel.
Posted by: Captain America || 05/22/2005 15:15 Comments || Top||

#24  rereading the comments here and elsewhere, you have to wonder just how deluded the press is not to understand just how unpopular, unfashionable and how unliked they have become.

No changes on the part of news weak or rather. Still riding high off their own fumes.

like a bunch of old whores hawking their wares - they still strut their stuff...even if not many are buying these days.
Posted by: 2b || 05/22/2005 15:52 Comments || Top||

#25  Matt---I like your suggestion. It is tongue in cheek, but it hits the mark. A simple quid pro quo or a STFU and get out of the imbed business. MSM take your choice. Make the suggestion and stand back and watch 'em howl. Heh heh. Innocent source of merriment.

Dad witnessed an incident with a very rotund AP reporter on Okinawa in WW2. This guy was arrogant to the max. Standing up and being a very large target, he drew Japanese machine gun fire. So this guy starts to run, and the Japanese MG never lead him, so they were just a little behind the target. Dad said that he never knew that such mass could go so fast. Marines in their foxholes were cheering him on like in a horse race. Hooting and hollering. Everyone had a good time except the AP reporter.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 05/22/2005 16:01 Comments || Top||

#26  AP, great story.
Posted by: Matt || 05/22/2005 16:04 Comments || Top||

#27  Just one note. I did not support this article, I just wanted to put this up here so everyone could read it.
Posted by: Cog || 05/22/2005 16:33 Comments || Top||

#28  Thank you, Cog.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#29  Oh and Sgt Mom; I help the soldier. F the Pulitzer committee.
Posted by: Cog || 05/22/2005 16:35 Comments || Top||

#30  Good for you, Cog. You may be one of the few who really has a grasp of how offensive to the military this whole thing is... like our lives, and the lives... and deaths of our people are some sort of bizarre reality show? And they get miffed because they can't get that one, million-dollar, Pulitzer-prize winning shot? There are primitive people who belive that being photographed steals your soul. I am beginning to wonder if being the photographer steals your soul instead.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 05/22/2005 17:57 Comments || Top||

#31  Amen, Sgt Mom! You nailed it dead solid perfect.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 18:13 Comments || Top||

#32  The kids of this generation are much cleverer than the reactionary "progressive" profs realize, in part due to the education establishment itself. Throughout the primary grades the trailing daughters have been required to summarize newspaper articles for social studies. In parallel, they've been taught about propaganda techniques, so as to arm them against evil tobacco and sugary cereals advertising. But TD1 has taken to pointing out, with a great deal of glee, propaganda techniques used in news articles... and I'm sure that plenty of other young people have learnt their lessons at least as well as she. Popcorn, anyone?
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 18:32 Comments || Top||

#33  Trailing Wife: Allow me to amplify.

Your daughter and my 19 year old are but two of a whole generation of young girls coming of age who were raised right, and who see and understand that whatever our nation does wrong is always made right, and that the lies and distortions by the MSM academia, et al, are something to rectify, even if it means simply raising their children to believe what we know this nation has come to mean to billions of non Muslims worldwide.

Posted by: badanov || 05/22/2005 19:23 Comments || Top||

#34  *smile*
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 19:28 Comments || Top||


Wolf Brigade the most loved and feared of Iraqi security forces
File under "good news"...
Abul Waleed rifled through a pile of papers, considering the latest accusations against the elite brigade of Iraqi police commandos he leads from a dusty fortress. The complaints against the Wolf Brigade were the usual: excessive force, renegade patrols, kidnapping, murder. The charges came from Iraq's most powerful Sunni Muslim leaders, and Abul Waleed clearly relished reading them. It's precisely this take-no-prisoners reputation that's made his Wolf Brigade the most feared and revered of all of Iraq's nascent security forces. "The Muslim Scholars Association? They're infidels," Abul Waleed said, tossing his detractors' complaints into the wastebasket. "The Islamic Party? Humph. More like the Fascist Party."
Oh, I like this guy!
No matter how many complaints about heavy-handedness pile up on Abul Waleed's desk, there's no changing the fact that the Wolf Brigade rules public opinion in a country desperate for Iraqi heroes. With their televised humiliation of terror suspects and their dapper uniforms, the Wolf Brigade restores some of the national pride stripped away by war and foreign occupation. While the nation's fledgling police and armed forces are derided as corrupt or incompetent, the Wolf Brigade is the exception. Their logo is a snarling wolf, and their TV show, "Terrorists in the Grip of Justice," is the most watched program in the country. Harassed parents silence noisy children with threats to call the Wolves. Housewives swoon over their "broad shoulders" and "toughness."
Iraq needs to think of itself as heroic, and given the piss poor performance of Sammy's army it sure as hell wasn't going to be them.
"Every time I see them in the street, I feel safe," said Ahmed Kanan, 25, who works at a menswear shop in Baghdad. "I feel that we have a country with a government."
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [338 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good luck and good hunting, Wolf Brigade.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "Human rights (workers) used to come and complain about how we treat the prisoners, but they never ask about how the terrorists treated the people they killed," added Yasser al-Qureishi, a Sunni who serves as Abul Waleed's personal assistant. "If it was your sister who was raped and killed, how would you deal with it?"

Typical hypocracy of the LLL. If it was my sister, the person responsible would be hung by their sack with piano wire.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 05/22/2005 0:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Moderate Muslim Watch.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 0:40 Comments || Top||

#4  12 commandos killed in Iraq:

Twelve troops from the Iraqi interior ministry's elite commando force were killed in a string of attacks in restive Sunni towns north of Baghdad yesterday. Four commandos from the Wolf Brigade and a civilian were killed in a bomb attack in Samarra, 125km north of the capital, police said. "Two more commandos were killed in a rocket attack on a police station in the city centre moments later," the source said. In Baiji further north, six other members of the brigade were shot dead in intense fighting that broke out in the key oil refinery town's industrial zone, police said.
Posted by: Seafarious || 05/22/2005 1:09 Comments || Top||

#5  How does that quote go? "Extremism in the cause of liberty....something something" The Wolf Brigade is cleaning up the mess Saddam built over a generation. So long as they submit to the civilian government and remain honest, they really are heroes, the kind of real heroes Iraqis need. It won't be long before the kiddies are collecting Wolf Brigade comic books, like American kids collect Superman and Batman comics. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 3:06 Comments || Top||

#6  .com, an important point. If only Saudi Arabia had a Wolf Brigade to take on the morals police. Shoot, if the Palestinians had a Wolf Brigade, Israel could contemplate a real possibility of peace.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 3:10 Comments || Top||

#7  I really like how they send liberals and islamo-fascists packing: "Human rights (workers) used to come and complain about how we treat the prisoners, but they never ask about how the terrorists treated the people they killed,"

We should ask a couple of them to come to USA/Europe and give speeches here in the western Tvs.
Posted by: JFM || 05/22/2005 3:47 Comments || Top||

#8  Careful, tw, lol! You're treading on thin ice with our own morality cops.

You're right - it's the same everywhere. Someone has to stand up to the evil, and there's just no better word for it. In Islam, what we know to be obvious evil is characterized as honorable and romantic. It's sick. And it's the damned imams. That Saudi and the PA encourage or tolerate them makes both "govts" as guilty as the asshat who pulls the trigger, IMHO. Until the Hate Machine of Islam is turned off or destroyed, it has no end. Remove funding and support to drastically reduce the numbers entranced by the Friday Moskkk bullshit - or kill them all. If we can't get the "govts" to cooperate in the former, we will be forced to do the latter.

I definitely agree that those who're doing the heavy lifting here for the Iraqis, while most refuse to get involved, should be Iraqis - and they should be honored and revered for their sacrifice and bravery. The idolatry bit is pretty funny, but I guess they're pretty hungry for something, someone, to take pride in. They've chosen well, heh. I'm hoping for the next phase to be emulation by those who've failed to do the job. I'm sure they watch TV, too.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 3:47 Comments || Top||

#9  spot on ..com
Posted by: Shistos Shistadogloo || 05/22/2005 7:09 Comments || Top||

#10  Iraq needs to think of itself as heroic, and given the piss poor performance of Sammy's army it sure as hell wasn't going to be them.

I strongly suspect that if any individual or group even appeared as 'heroic' other than Sammy himself in Sammy's Iraq, they'd be before the firing squad before sunset. There can only be one.
Posted by: Anonymous7489 || 05/22/2005 8:55 Comments || Top||

#11  love the robot on the desk - is this their version of an unmanned weapon?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#12  Orwell: "We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us."

Posted by: Matt || 05/22/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#13  But wait, there's more!

With their televised humiliation of terror suspects and their dapper uniforms,

Journalist Rule # 37: Humiliation of Arabs is only a concern when the perpetrators are Americans. Or Da Jooooooz.
Posted by: Raj || 05/22/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#14  "...their trademark blue-and-white pickups."

If its not deep blue its Israel colors. Someday I'd like to see a picture.
Posted by: mhw || 05/22/2005 10:16 Comments || Top||

#15  I would argue that the only way that we will have an exit strategy is by the care and feeding of the wolves.

The wolves know one hell of alot more than our men and women about the cracks and crevices that the Saddam and foreign terrorists hide in. They obviously get the man-on-the-street HUMIT.

Coupled with the increase in the regular Iraqi army, police and security, the wolves are a force multiplier.
Posted by: Captain America || 05/22/2005 14:48 Comments || Top||

#16  Wonder if we can send over a wolf-pack for the brigade? They would be great mascots, and even be useful in interagations.
Posted by: Charles || 05/22/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||

#17  The Grey Wolf is native to Iraq and populations probably still exist in the northern mountains. Conservation wasn't a Saddam era priority.
Posted by: phil_b || 05/22/2005 15:15 Comments || Top||

#18  What if we have to face their spawn one day face-to-face... you know... like the Eagle meets the Wolf Cubs in some obscure desert show-down? Some of these folks may be working both sides of the fence... just like many are surely waiting the time to step up and show their true colors with an Iranian smiling behind them.
Posted by: Spomolet Chick1592 || 05/22/2005 18:25 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Hamas Recruits For Chechnya
Hamas has been recruiting Palestinians for the war in Chechnya. Documents seized from Hamas strongholds in the West Bank and Gaza Strip have cited the Chechen revolt as one of the leading Islamic struggles. The documents, include propaganda posters, that tout the Islamic war against Russia in Chechnya as well as the Al Qaida-aligned leader Shamil Basayev. The other causes are Afghanistan, Balkans, Kashmir, Lebanon and Palestine.

Israel's military also seized videos distributed by Hamas to schools and youth clubs that lauded the Chechnya revolt. Military sources said the videos were used to recruit new members to Hamas and the global Islamic insurgency. The videos were found at the American University in Jenin and Hebron University and the Hamas-financed Orphans Home in Hebron. Hamas has been in contact with Chechen rebels as part of the Palestinian movement's effort to expand relations and cooperation with other Islamic groups. Hamas was said to have modeled itself after the Iranian-sponsored Hizbullah and Chechen insurgents, who have formed a virtual state in Chechnya.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [285 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Looking to get involved in a war they might possibly be able to win? Or at least not lose so embarrassingly? Or frustrated that Israel's security fence is preventing them from reaching Paradise?
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 3:14 Comments || Top||

#2  They are welcome to go on their way, when they get there they can die tired. The Russians will be glad to kill them.
Posted by: Sock Puppet 0’ Doom || 05/22/2005 3:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Paleostine finds something to export...
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 9:06 Comments || Top||

#4  "...Chechen insurgents, who have formed a virtual state..."
Rantburg is a better "virtual state" -- benevolent rulers, freedom of speech and religion, no taxation, and free drinks at the club.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 10:07 Comments || Top||

#5  Just trying to thank Puti for his support of the Paleo cause.
Posted by: gromgoru || 05/22/2005 13:27 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Cairo Blast Suspect Dies in Custody
Egyptian suspect held in connection with a bombing in Cairo last month has died in police custody, Egypt's general prosecutor Maher Abdel Wahed said. Asharf Saied Youssef, identified by the Egyptian Interior Ministry as one of the people who recruited the bomber who killed two French men, an American and himself in Al-Azhar bazaar in Cairo on April 7, died in custody on Thursday in hospital. "Youssef was in a very abnormal condition and all of a sudden he hit his head in the wall and died immediately after reaching hospital," said Abdel Wahed. "The body has been transferred to the forensic department to get more information about the cause of his death or the hysterical condition he went through before hitting his dead," he told Arab News in a phone interview.
"He did that just after he fell down the stairs. It was tragic. Just tragic."
The police sources, who asked to remain anonymous, said police refused to give the man's body to his family in his village north of Cairo for burial until the forensic report is released. On April 29, Youssef's 40-year-old cousin Muhammad Suleiman Youssef, 40, died also in police custody and the circumstances of his death were unclear.
"We think it was heart failure... Yeah. That should cover it. Heart failure."
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [266 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "he repeatedly fell down the stairs in the one-story police station....tragic"
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 9:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Very dangerous, those "hysterical conditions". You really want to try to avoid those if you are detained.
Posted by: Tom || 05/22/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||


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Iraq: Tater Tots, guards clash
Supporters of Shia cleric Moqtada al-Sadr have clashed with guards of a provincial governor's office in Nasiriyah, witnesses said. More than 10 people were reported injured in the attacks on Friday. The fighting occurred during an organised parade of about 2000 members of al-Sadr's Jaish al-Mahdi (al-Mahdi Army) in Nasiriyah, about 320km southeast of Baghdad.

An Associated Press reporter on the scene said the al-Sadr supporters, many holding the Quran above their heads, were marching towards the anti-US cleric's office, which is near the headquarters of the Dhi Qar provincial governor, Aziz Abed Alwan. Armed men guarding the headquarters opened fire towards the crowd in an apparent bid to disperse it, prompting retaliatory shooting from al-Sadr supporters. An official from Nasiriyah General Hospital said four police officers and four civilians were wounded in the firefight and are being treated. Another six al-Sadr supporters were wounded in the fighting, said Sheikh al-Khafaji, an official at al-Sadr's Nasiriyah office. The parade was attended by Fatah al-Sheikh, a member of Iraq's National Assembly.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [281 views] Top|| File under:

#1  His time should've been up long ago. The asstard Fatah al-Sheikh provided cover - he should be gone, too, as an accomplice and co-conspirator in this violence.

The Iraqis in charge have to get it through their thick Arab skulls that you cannot allow criminals and foreign agents with private militias and no qualms about instigating violence to exist. There will be no peace as long as they keep trying to appease and buy off and negotiate with Tater or the Sunnis supporting the violence.

The endgame for the current chaos cometh soon. It can play out only a few ways - mostly bad. They'd better take a step back and reassess - while we're still willing to let them play it their way and back them up. Rule of Law, boys. No exceptions. Enforce it mercilessly.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 2:54 Comments || Top||

#2  I never understood by the overstuffed Shi'ite butcher, Moqtada al-Sadr was allowed to continue with his gang of killers of American troops.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/22/2005 5:57 Comments || Top||

#3  his time should have been up

I had the exact same exasperated thought reading this. I'm torn between thinking if you just get rid of him his followers will go get a real job - and - fearing that will just make him a martyr. Look at the Chechen butchers - they were turned into martyrs even after Beslan.

maybe it's best to give this guy just enough rope to hang himself.
Posted by: 2b || 05/22/2005 7:33 Comments || Top||

#4  He's riding the fact that his father was a revered scholar. My guess is that's the only reason he hasn't been sent to the boneyard yet.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 9:13 Comments || Top||

#5  It will look a lot stronger when THEY execute him,not us. I think it will happen ,too.
Posted by: Palladin || 05/22/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||

#6  he keeps showing where the laser dot should be - love the pic
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  I thought he was doing an indepth study of a bugger.
Posted by: raptor || 05/22/2005 11:35 Comments || Top||

#8  Time for Mucky to have a tragically fatal goat-breeding accident...
Posted by: mojo || 05/22/2005 12:01 Comments || Top||

#9  it would be cooler if Tater died of a heart attack after a pork barbeque lunch
Posted by: mhw || 05/22/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#10  MWH: Better yet, it would be better if he didn't know it was pork until someone told he right before he died.
Posted by: Charles || 05/22/2005 14:58 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Female Afghan TV Host Shot Dead in Kabul
A ground-breaking Afghan television host whose Western style drew praise from youthful fans and condemnation from Muslim clerics may have been slain with involvement from her own brothers, police said Friday. Shaima Rezayee, 24, who tossed aside her burqa for Western dress and became a host on an MTV-style music show, knew her life was in danger, according to a radio interview she gave not long before she was shot in the head at her Kabul home Wednesday.

Her slaying highlights the struggle between urban young people and their conservative elders for the future of Afghanistan and its Islamic values. Television and radio stations like the one that featured Rezayee — often importing music and styles from other countries — have been leaders in probing the boundaries of acceptability. Rezayee, like other young Afghan women, was denied schooling and forced to wear the burqa in public until the Taliban regime was ousted by the U.S. invasion in late 2001. The Taliban also banned music — even humming on the street. In the years since, several private television and radio stations have started broadcasting. Many operate under tight security, well aware of criticism from religious leaders who oppose women in Western dress, women working, or women singing publicly.

The station that featured Rezayee, Tolo TV, has in particular drawn fire. In March, the country's council of Islamic scholars criticized Tolo and other stations for transmitting "programs opposed to Islam and national values." Tolo TV executives dismissed Rezayee that same month under pressure from conservative clerics. Her hour-long show, "Hop," showed videos of Western singers such as Madonna, as well as Turkish and Iranian pop stars. The casual chat between male and female announcers on Rezayee's show also drew reproach. Marriages are still mostly arranged in Afghanistan and some regard as suspect even conversation between men and women who are not related. Soon after she was dismissed, Rezayee said in a radio interview that she had heard rumors someone wanted to kill her, possibly because of the show.

Jamil Khan, head of the criminal investigation department for Kabul police, declined to comment on a possible motive for the killing, but said police would question Rezayee's two brothers after mourning ceremonies conclude early next week. "We suspect family members may be involved in the murder," he said. He didn't elaborate and relatives could not be immediately reached for comment.
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [291 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "For she on honeydew is fed
And drinks the milk of Paradise."
(with apologies to Coleridge)

What a very brave soul was stolen from her people by this murder. But if, indeed, this is part of a war of the old against the young, it is lost already. The young always win in the end. And if it was her brothers as an honour killing, what will they do when their own children seek out the same kind of freedom to be fully human?
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/22/2005 2:35 Comments || Top||

#2  "what will they do when their own children seek out the same kind of freedom to be fully human?"

Um.... we know what they'll do.
Posted by: Mark E. || 05/22/2005 9:58 Comments || Top||

#3  the mooks have humiliated the family in western eyes. We demand they be killed.....
Posted by: Frank G || 05/22/2005 10:20 Comments || Top||


5 including 2 Algerians arrested
LAHORE: Five people including two foreigners were arrested in two separate operations by security forces and the political administration in the tribal areas on Saturday, Geo news channel reported. Security forces raided a smuggled goods market in Khyber Agency on a tip-off and arrested two Algerians and took them to an unidentified location, the report said. Officials confirmed the Algerians' arrests, it reported. The Bajaur political administration arrested three people from the agency on Saturday for being behind several bomb blasts, Aaj news channel reported. The men were accused of blowing up three vehicles of a Mamona tribal lashkar (army) while it was on its way to torch a house owned by Maulvi Faqir in Bajaur Agency last Friday, the channel added.
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Blast kills US soldier in Afghanistan
Posted by: Fred || 05/22/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [283 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "loyalists to the ousted Taliban government and other fighters"

Al Jizz. "loyalists" and "fighters". Of course.

badanov - I suggest we insitute a "glee factor" on stories reporting US Military deaths.

I give this one, given the asinine innocuous terms applied to the terrs where they are a'spinnin' instead of quoting, a 7.0. Pretty lame for the Jizzboyz.
Posted by: .com || 05/22/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||



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