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2006-07-23 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Oztralian 2006-07-23 19:23|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "On Monday, the United Nations will launch a $100 million fundraising campaign to help the Lebanese people, he said. "

This is about 1/8th of what UN officials scammed in Oil for food.

Instead of Fund raising; why dont these noble hacks give back what they took?

Dont hold your breath, members of the Socialist international are not folks who retire from SOP.

Posted by Angairong Hupoluger1043 2006-07-23 19:45|| 2006-07-23 19:45|| Front Page Top

#2 On Monday, the United Nations will launch a $100 million fundraising campaign to help ~~the Lebanese people~~ pay for the luncheons, conferences, and hookers for U.N. officials, he said.

There - fixed that for ya. No need to thank me.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-07-23 20:04|| 2006-07-23 20:04|| Front Page Top

#3 If Israel doesn't do something major within the next 48 hours, I don't believe they are going to. If the situation on the border on Wednesday morning is the same as it is now, then it will be pretty clear that Israel is going into a fairly static mode of going in, attacking positions, and withdrawal to prevent Hezbollah from any protracted engagements. In other words, the IDF engaging in small unit hit/run tactics and intending to keep it that way until a negotiated end.

Posted by crosspatch">crosspatch 2006-07-23 20:23|| http://crufty.blogspot.com]">[http://crufty.blogspot.com] 2006-07-23 20:23|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't think this is simply small unit hit/run tactics. If Israel did something major in the next 48 hours, I'll bet the results would look like the Somme and Israel knows it. That's what Hezb'Allah was set up for and that is why Israel is throwing something different at them. There is no reason why this level of combat cannot go on for weeks or months as long as the Israeli people will support it and the American people will support them. I'm very optomistic on both counts.

No one is going to speak out against Israel in the US before the end of the year. Very bad timing on Hezb'Allah's part. And the rockets have cemented Israeli support for quite some time as long as casualties are kept down. And that is what these tactics are designed to do, keep casualties low.

Israel is now putting boots on the ground. The vipers' nests are being cleared out. It's slow work, but Israel has time. It's a creative response to the situation they found.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-23 20:35|| 2006-07-23 20:35|| Front Page Top

#5 12 days? 20000+ days would be more precise!

Posted by Snise Grogum7151 2006-07-23 20:53|| 2006-07-23 20:53|| Front Page Top

#6 Snise - Depends on the munitions employed - unless you're including the decay to safe levels.

Posted by Glager Flomp7348 2006-07-23 21:01|| 2006-07-23 21:01|| Front Page Top

#7 "No one is going to speak out against Israel in the US before the end of the year."

I disagree. At least not without some changes. Israel will probably start to get some serious pushback after one or two more weeks depending on how Hezbollah acts. If they continue their terrorist rhetoric, yeah, nobody will care.

What it boils down to at a human nature level is value. As long as Hezbollah behaves like criminals, the world will place little value on thei lives or those of their supporters.

Posted by crosspatch">crosspatch 2006-07-23 21:57|| http://crufty.blogspot.com]">[http://crufty.blogspot.com] 2006-07-23 21:57|| Front Page Top

#8 True, crosspatch. The press reports, especially such as SkyNews (which is shown on Fox), are unbelievably biased fluffy-bunny bullshit. The domestic opposition will find plenty of angles, "disproportionate" being the first generation meme, soon enough.

Posted by Theatle Crise9958 2006-07-23 22:03|| 2006-07-23 22:03|| Front Page Top

#9 crosspatch, let me correct that for you: "As long as Hezbollah ~~behaves~~ talks like criminals, the non-extremist muslim world will place little value on their lives or those of their supporters."

Posted by gorb 2006-07-23 22:31|| 2006-07-23 22:31|| Front Page Top

#10 That is simply a corollary, not a correction, Gorb. The way it looks at this moment, and that can change at any time, mind you, is that Israel might have found a way to play Hezbollah's game against it.

It is very important to Hezbollah to keep sending the missiles into Israel. If Israel can go in, take out a launching cell or cache of missiles and pull out, it causes Hezbollah to have to replace it. Israel will blast anyone going near an already cleared town. Rinse, lather, repeat at a dozen or so points and you have a situation where Hezbollah is having trouble launching missiles AND there are no Israelis to hit back at.

If Hezbollah attempts to go back in and set up, they are nailed from the air before then can get the first rocket on the launcher. If they attempt to set up in a new location, the ground forces go in, break all their toys and leave.

If Hezbollah gets to a point where they can no longer launch missiles into Israel, no matter how that comes about, they have lost much. If Israel can do that without an occupation, Hezbollah has lost even more.

Posted by crosspatch">crosspatch 2006-07-23 22:39|| http://crufty.blogspot.com]">[http://crufty.blogspot.com] 2006-07-23 22:39|| Front Page Top

#11 So how much is the UN going to raise to help the people of Haifa?

Posted by DMFD 2006-07-23 22:52|| 2006-07-23 22:52|| Front Page Top

#12 As opposed to the amount skimmed?

Posted by Fliper Phaimble2565 2006-07-23 23:19|| 2006-07-23 23:19|| Front Page Top

#13 "DF Military Intelligence (MI) believes the army has 10 days left before diplomatic pressure puts an end to operation Change of Direction against Hizbullah, The Jerusalem Post learned on Sunday."

From this article.

Also of note:

"Hizbullah is organized along military lines, with regional commands in southern, northern and central Lebanon. The unit in the south, called the "Katyusha Unit" by the IDF, consists of some 1,000 fighters who have been responsible for most of the rocket attacks on communities north of Acre and Amiad.

The unit has been able to recruit reserves, but MI has noticed that it has run into difficulty convincing members of the terror group who reside in northern Lebanon to travel south to participate in the fighting. "

Posted by crosspatch 2006-07-23 23:40|| http://crosspatch.townhall.com]">[http://crosspatch.townhall.com] 2006-07-23 23:40|| Front Page Top

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