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2010-02-01 Home Front: Politix
Democrats brace for another Senate blow
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Posted by Fred 2010-02-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views ]  Top

#1 my two sons are registered democrats. Their are voting in the primary but then voting for the pubs in the general. Obama and the Illinois Dems have just freaked them out too much.
Posted by 3dc 2010-02-01 00:23||   2010-02-01 00:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Fear not. Illinois Dems have a deep and experienced bench ... of dead people.
Posted by ed 2010-02-01 01:29||   2010-02-01 01:29|| Front Page Top

#3 What makes it tricky is that the dead are generally not called for polling purposes, so when they vote, it skews the polls.
Posted by Bobby 2010-02-01 05:53||   2010-02-01 05:53|| Front Page Top

#4 The voting dead have historically been a low-cost mulitiplier in Cook County. Voting dead absentee ballots slightly more due to postage and handling.
Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-01 07:51||   2010-02-01 07:51|| Front Page Top

#5 I met Kirk once. He seemed like a decent sort and he gets the WoT. However, he voted for cap-n-trade (I presume because his district is pretty liberal), so I'm conflicted. There's no way I would vote for any Dem, but sadly the Pubs in Illinois aren't much better.
Posted by Spot  2010-02-01 08:41||   2010-02-01 08:41|| Front Page Top

#6 The Pubs in Illinois have been pretty awful this last decade. They're part of the 'combine' in Springfield that divides the spoils with the Dems. As long as the Pub power brokers get theirs, they don't complain.

Kirk is in a divided, center-left district, and he's a master at staying alive as a moderate Pub. He won in 2008 when Pubs on both sides of his district went down. He voted for cap-and-trade because his district favored it, but now says he regrets the vote.

I do know that a LOT of downstaters dislike him intensely. They may sit on their hands in November.

His major challenger, Patrick Hughes, is a Hinsdale real estate guy who has appealing convictions and positions, and no electoral experience whatsoever. He'd get eaten alive in the fall.

I just may have to hold my nose and vote for Kirk.
Posted by Steve White 2010-02-01 09:23||   2010-02-01 09:23|| Front Page Top

#7 Kirk may not be a fait accompli:

Adam Andrzejewski Surges to Within 2 Points in Latest Polling

Andrzejewski is a conservative. Kirk supported Bammo in 2008.
Posted by Iblis 2010-02-01 11:02||   2010-02-01 11:02|| Front Page Top

#8 I live in the Kirk district and have no problem voting for him or supporting him. A couple of points.

1 - As even Rush noticed, his cap and trade vote is not because he's a liberal, or a RINO, but because of the "trade". This is the north shore, home of MERC and CBOE "traders". Yes, it's a comparatively liberal district, but there's plenty of money from the traders. For the state race, he's backed off. He's also probably the only vote (aye or nay) to vote on the trading aspect of this, rather than the capping aspect.

2 - N G F ski (that's how Andrzejewski is pronounced) is running for governor, not against Kirk.

3 - Downstaters will easily vote for Kirk. Aside from not having a choice, he's one of the few elected GOPer's left in the non-machine wing of the party. Many of his fellow congressmen have since retired or been defeated or LaHooded.

4 - His strengths far more than offset his RINO tendencies, which are just that, tendencies - not committed principles. I expect he'd be much more conservative a Senator than Scott Brown will be - more akin to Lugar or McConnell. A long long way from the Mainers, or even Graham and McCain..
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-02-01 11:14||   2010-02-01 11:14|| Front Page Top

#9 N G F ski ... is running for governor, not against Kirk.

Correct. My bad.
Posted by Iblis 2010-02-01 13:15||   2010-02-01 13:15|| Front Page Top

#10 And he just picked up Rush and Becks' endorsements, to go with Lech's. It is very unlikely, but with a massively split vote, he could win with a 20-25% plurality. It would make the Brown victory look puny, and would make for a fascinating November race, particularly if Hynes (i.e. - machine) wins the Dem primary.
Posted by Halliburton - Mysterious Conspiracy Division 2010-02-01 16:40||   2010-02-01 16:40|| Front Page Top

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