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2010-02-01 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by Besoeker 2010-02-01 03:44|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 This rings true to me. I was in Honduras for Hurricane Mitch in 1998. My guys had spent a couple of days pulling people, dead and alive, out of the mud, distributing food and rescuing flood victims before USAID and some church sponsored lib do-gooders showed up. The latter were especially useless and obnoxious. They spent 3 days sitting on their pampered asses and sneering at "the military" while my people continued to work 18 hour days. Worthless arrogant bastards, all of them.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2010-02-01 11:32|| 2010-02-01 11:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Who what when where.

Who: He and REDACTED
What: Aid incompetance
When: 1/31/10 (Maybe)
Where: Haiti.

The details are interesting.

"exemplar their parochialism "
"The bloody UN"

Sounds like a european wrote this.

Falls below the validity test for me.

Posted by flash91 2010-02-01 11:42|| 2010-02-01 11:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Interesting you should say that, Flash. During the aforementioned episode in Honduras, one of the do-gooders became very suspicious of my British accent, watered down and Texanized though it was by that time. He asked what the British army was doing there (my GI uniform not withstanding) and went on to suggest, in all seriousness, that there was some kind of neo-colonialist plot going on. Since it is a given among these people that the US military are incompetent as well as venal, he apparently thought I was some sort of James Bond type sent there to help the Americans in their mission of oppressing the poor and undermining their legitimate leaders (ie communists and media based elitists.) I informed him that I was a legitimate and long serving officer of the United States Army. I added that, like certain other Americans, I had come from elsewhere; but had been a US citizen for 24 years. I also suggested that he expand his reading beyond Howard Zinn, Ramsey Clark, and Ian Fleming.

(I missed the mark a little there. The fool had no idea who Clark was.)

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2010-02-01 11:59|| 2010-02-01 11:59|| Front Page Top

#4 I think I'll wait for the secret audio & video recordings that back up these allegations. Remember the 'piles of corpses used by Haitians in protest' meme? Whatever became of that?

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-02-01 13:09|| 2010-02-01 13:09|| Front Page Top

#5 What became of it is that, having no other place to deal with corpses, the locals stacked them by the roadside and those working to rescue the trapped, feed the starving and prevent massive outbreaks of cholera etc. dealt with those corpses as/when they could.

Posted by lotp 2010-02-01 13:24|| 2010-02-01 13:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't forget those 25 YO USAIDsters will also be similar in political thought as the failed "Rec and Park majors" on your "Mortality Counciling team" when they have the authority to "wisely" determine if you get an artifical hip procedure or a pill to ease your pain instead....since you had enjoyed more success in life, and all, and it is time to share with the less fortunate.

Posted by Capsu78 2010-02-01 13:36|| 2010-02-01 13:36|| Front Page Top

#7 I've been looking at the Google Earth imagery and doing some private analysis, posted on my weblog. I don't doubt much of this at all. I've worked with US "civilian" agencies off and on for 30+ years, and find them arrogant and highly opinionated, especially against the military. There ARE exceptions, but they're few and far between. Obumble needs to send Gen. Odierno (sp?) down there with orders to take over ALL US efforts, and tell the UN to go pound sand when they object. I have a friend that has been a missionary to the Dominican Republic for 22 years now, and he won't cross into Haiti for ANYTHING. The country needs 50-60 years of "occupation" to sort themselves out and learn to work. It'll never happen - neither Congress nor the UN will allow it.

The UN needs to be moved to Geneva, and the US needs to remove itself from it. It's a useless bureaucracy that hasn't a clue how to do anything but "order" the United States to do its job. It needs to die a rapid and unmourned death.

Posted by Old Patriot 2010-02-01 14:00|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/ 2010-02-01 14:00|| Front Page Top

#8 The country needs 50-60 years of "occupation" to sort themselves out and learn to work. It'll never happen - neither Congress nor the UN will allow it. Good candidates for that kind of occupation are Haiti, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and probably some others I haven't thought of yet. Congress and the UN may be the immediate scapegoats, but there is no way the American people would tolerate it, even if they could pay for it, which they can't. Charity only goes so far.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-02-01 14:05|| 2010-02-01 14:05|| Front Page Top

#9 If any of you are thinking of giving money to the Haitian relief, or to the UN don't waste your money. It will only go to further the goals of the French and the Liberal left.

Bummer. I already shelled out a hundred bucks at my church. I can only hope they're not as bad as the Sgt Major says. I'm not usually a charitable kind of guy but sometimes it gets to me and this was one of those times.

My own opinion, FWIW, is the US military should stay there and the US should just annex the place. Kick the UN and the French out, screw 'em. Haiti is always gonna be a basket case and the US is always gonna get suckered into paying for it so, if we got a grip on the situation, we might not have to pay as much.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-02-01 15:07|| 2010-02-01 15:07|| Front Page Top

#10 "I also suggested that he expand his reading beyond Howard Zinn, Ramsey Clark, and Ian Fleming."

You're a patient man, AC - I'd have suggested something completely different (and anatomically impossible) to him, just based on his behaviour. ;-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2010-02-01 15:09|| 2010-02-01 15:09|| Front Page Top

#11 The UN needs to be moved to Geneva...

Geneva? How about Mogadishu?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-02-01 15:10|| 2010-02-01 15:10|| Front Page Top

#12 Mogadishu? I might say Port-a-Prince would be a perfect place to the Useless Nitwits - except that the Haitians have already suffered enough.

We *should* take the price all all the aid we are going to Haiti out of our U.N. Contribution.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-02-01 15:35|| 2010-02-01 15:35|| Front Page Top

#13 There's plenty of office space available in Dubai to move the UN into . . . I'm just saying . . .

Posted by Spanky Wheack7175 2010-02-01 17:52|| 2010-02-01 17:52|| Front Page Top

#14 You may as well give it to France.

This same stuff happened on every deployment I was on.

Red Cross was agitating and ruining our counts my moving people around to other camps without even giving us a heads up. Many "Aid" people just did not think there was any structure to camps (like Food and water and headcount for the same) so they just moved people around to their families. A horrible

Logistics problem and a waste of time and Lives.

Fakers run dog and pony, true grit is the Soldier.

Lock press outside the gate. Do-gooders need to see what is happening anyways. In matters of Life and Death, they are second tier. Lock all flights for essentials only, The press hires it's own security and transport/lodging.

Boy I miss telling a few off myself.

Posted by newc 2010-02-01 18:00|| 2010-02-01 18:00|| Front Page Top

#15 Haiti, that is. You may as well give it to France.
I ignore the UN.

Posted by newc 2010-02-01 18:02|| 2010-02-01 18:02|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Shomp Oppressor of the Antelope3652 2010-02-01 21:05|| 2010-02-01 21:05|| Front Page Top

#17 Mods, cleanup on 16. Shomp just made a technicolor yawn.

Posted by mom 2010-02-01 23:31|| 2010-02-01 23:31|| Front Page Top

#18 The UN needs to be moved to Geneva...

Nah. I don't have the Swiss that much.

Posted by Secret Master 2010-02-01 23:55|| 2010-02-01 23:55|| Front Page Top

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