Halloween Takeover of Mall of America's Victoria's Secret
author: Catalogs Without Clearcuts
Protesters stormed the Victoria Secret in Minneapolis's Mall of America around 1 pm October 31st. The activists upon entering the store stripped down to lingerie and night gowns announcing their presence with a cheers with the intention of informing the shoppers of VS's tremendous contribution to forest destuction. Within minutes they were kicked out of the store by employees, but continued the cheers and guerilla theater outside of the store. Activists with cardboard chainsaws pretended to cut down other activists who represented trees. Soon after, mall security arrived and escorted the activists out of the mall.
Not only are VS's catalogs non-recycled, they are primarily sourced from Northern Canada's boreal wilderness, the largest intact wildlands in North America. Amongst grizzly bears and herds of caribou, hundreds of rare migratory birds make the Boreal their home. With over 395 million catalogs published annually, VS is one of the leading contributors to forest destruction in the world. To voice your complaints and ask to be taken off the VS mailing list, call 1-800-888-8200.
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Who pays the activists? They sound like my olde Berkeley hippie buddies of yore that lived off their parents until Mom and Dad got pissed off, then they found a job because altruism and poverty sucked.
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"Activists" and "Lingerie" in the same sentence?
Reboot that mental image...
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Activists with cardboard chainsaws pretended to cut down other activists who represented trees.
C'mon, assholes. If you're gonna take a stand, have the balls to take a stand! None of this fake chainsaw bullshit! Break out the Huskies and go to town on each other!
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Didn't they leave out the part where the VS catalog models staged a counter-attack, charging into the mass of activist-trees with credit cards at the ready?
No? Sorry, it the imagination, y'know, sometimes it goes...well, a little funny in the head.
There is great news for fugitive Naif Lafi Al-Mutairi wanted by police for numerous assaults against family, friends and others. The news is: For as long as you remain inside your house with a gun, the police won't come after you. Your police complaint file is sitting in a box, under a bed in an unused room at the Al-Safa District police station gathering dust. For all intents and purposes you have been forgotten by the police. In the unlikely event that they come knocking on your door, just stay inside, don't answer the door, and soon enough the police will be gone. You can continue to abuse your family and do all the drugs you want, and no one but those you are harming will ever care.
Arab News yesterday highlighted the ordeal of a Jeddah family terrorized by their drug-addicted relative. For the past two years, Al-Mutairi has threatened to shoot other relatives and has stabbed his nephew and another man in separate incidents.
Yesterday, relatives of the wanted man were told by police that because there was no male guardian in the house other than the suspect, they were powerless to apprehend him. Members of the Al-Mutairi family then contacted Arab News which in turn contacted several top police officials in Riyadh and Jeddah to get to the bottom of this. The matter appeared to be relatively simple in that the man is an armed, drug addicted fugitive threatening his family with physical harm living in a house that belongs to their dying mother. For all intents and purposes, and in most other countries in the world, when a man is wanted by the authorities and his location is known, the police would knock on the door, go inside and get their man.
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Rania Al-Baz's husband is refusing to divorce her except through the court, which could take years. "He has completely refused to settle the case out of court and insists that he wants her back for the sake of the children," said Dr. Omar Al-Khouli, lawyer of Rania, the former television broadcaster. The first hearing of the divorce case took place last week, but because the judge did not show up and neither did her husband Muhammad Al-Fallata, the hearing was rescheduled for December. "A case might be delayed for years because of the judge. In the case of Rania, a divorce sentence might be reached after two to five years because of the judge being absent and him trying to conciliate between the disputing parties," Al-Khouli told Arab News.
After the no-show of the judge, Al-Khouli and Al-Fallata's lawyer agreed to meet with Al-Fallata to try and settle the case, but they were not successful. Rania has the option of divorcing her husband, called khula in Islam, which requires her to return to him the dowry he gave her (SR15,000), but that is also done through the court. Although when Arab News asked her before whether she was willing to divorce him and return his dowry, she said yes, but at the court she said that she would not compromise on any of her rights.
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Women have been denied the vote in Saudi Arabia's coming elections, Ed O'Loughlin reports from Jeddah.
WHEN Saudi Arabia holds its first nationwide elections, scheduled to begin on February 10 around the capital, Riyadh, most of its university graduates will not take part. Last month the Saudi Government announced that, contrary to earlier indications, women would not be allowed to vote or stand for election to municipal councils that are being touted as the absolute monarchy's first steps towards representative government. The decision comes as a blow to women who - despite holding more university degrees than their male counterparts - remain in effect little more than the property of their husbands or nearest male relative. For Saudi women, voting is not just about reform but about basic human freedom. Legally they cannot work, travel or even get an ID card or passport without the consent of their male guardian - a category that could even include a younger brother or son. Strict dress codes and gender segregation weigh on them far more than men, and most professions and industries are officially forbidden to them - they are not even allowed to drive. Even within the family, their rights as wives and mothers are eroded by Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Muslim law, which restricts their inheritance rights and makes it easy for men to divorce them or - often much worse in practice - take up to three more wives.
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Edited for brevity.
A former British Army Gurkha is living in Britain on a pension five times less than his UK counterparts, a tribunal heard today. Lal Budha, 44, served with the Gurkhas for more than 23 years in Hong Kong, Brunei, South Korea and the Falklands. He was discharged in 2002 on medical grounds, having been airlifted to the UK for a liver transplant. The father-of-two now lives in High Wycombe and gets £95 [$175 US] a month pension, a tribunal at Croydon, south London, heard today. Mr Budha is claiming that the Ministry of Defence discriminated against him on the grounds of race or ethnic origin. He is claiming that his pay and pension were less than British soldiers and he was unable to see his wife as much as his British counterparts during his service as a Gurkha. His lawyer Henrietta Hill told the tribunal that Mr Budha was recruited from a village in western Nepal in 1979. In 1992 he suffered jaundice and hepatitis and in 2002 was discharged on medical grounds and given indefinite leave to remain in the UK. His recruitment in Nepal had been based on an historical arrangement between the British and Indian armies, and the Gurkhas have served alongside British soldiers and have an exemplary record, Ms Hill said. The tribunal heard that Mr Budha was paid about £38,000 [$69,600 US] less than a comparable British soldier. He receives about £95 a month in pension, compared to the £515 [$944 US] a British soldier could expect. Of course, there may be a lot of mitigating circumstances--percentage of disability, years of active service vs. reserve service, etc. In the US, I believe 20 years of active service warrants a full pension, correct?
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I'd wager the original pension was based on the idea that Gurkhas would retire back in Nepal.
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After a short period of cutting US pension ratings in the late 80s early 90s, care of Dem's who controlled Congress, the credit is back again to 2.5 percent per year served upon reaching 20 years, or 50 percent of one's base pay. The 2.5 per year is added for each additional year served up to 30 years or 75%. At 18 years of service the member is given protection from separation except in cases involving cause - court martial or less than acceptable behavior defined in the separation regulations. Portion of the retirement can be covered for service sustained disabilities, but they subtract any VA compensation for the disability from the retirement pay, so basically the tax on that portion of the pay is exempted. Along with the pension comes access to medical care [but not dental], the post exchange and commissary systems, and low-priority space available travel on military transports.
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11/01/2004 15:21 Comments ||
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Jeeze Louise! They gave more to Hookboy and his brood and threw in a flat, before Hookboy got too rabid.
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BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) -- A Brazilian legislator wants to make it illegal to give pets names that are common among people. So, I presume "Hitler" is still up for grabs?
Federal congressman Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their first name with someone's pet, said Damarias Alves, a spokeswoman for Silva. Of course, no one has seen fit to investigate just how depressed all the animals named "Reinaldo" are at sharing their name with this moron.
"Names have importance," said Alves. The congressman "wants to challenge people's assumptions that it's acceptable to give animals human names," she said. No mention was made of how ludicrous it is to legislate what names we call our pets by. Oops, I just remembered, we're all "animal guardians" now, because it is gauche to think that one "owns" a pet. Silly me.
If the law is passed, pet stores and veterinary clinics would be required to display a sign noting the prohibition of human first names for pets. Brazilians who break the law would be subject to crating, fines or community service. Alves admitted the law's chances of passage were slim but said Silva hoped the bill would call attention to his other efforts to protect animals. I'd wager that it is far more important to protect the civilian population from lunatic politicians like Silva.
"He's proposed many laws to protect wildlife in Brazil, but this is the only one that has ever gotten any attention," Alves said. Every anvilhead has its Silva lining.
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I always thought Shithead would be a good name for some pets. Renaming my two pet rats, Rizzo and Sanchez, is out of the question.
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"Shithead" would be a good name for some legislators, too.
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Federal congressman Reinaldo Santos e Silva proposed the law after psychologists suggested that some children may get depressed when they learn they share their first name with someoneâs pet
Or maybe he met an ass named Reinaldo Santos e Silva.
The reporter is full of shit, as you'll see reading the article, but hey - what news report isn't shit on a stick these days?
BEIJING (Reuters) - On the eve of the U.S. election, China laid into what it called the "Bush doctrine," said the Iraq war has destroyed the global anti-terror coalition and blamed arrogance for the problems dogging the United States worldwide. The searing article was as close to a position on the U.S. presidential election as China has come, but it made no mention of Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, the Democratic Party's challenger to President Bush in Tuesday's presidential contest.
The United States was dreaming if it thought the 21st century was the American century, wrote Qian Qichen, one of the main architects of China's foreign policy, in a commentary in the English-language China Daily newspaper. "The current U.S. predicament in Iraq serves as another example that when a country's superiority psychology inflates beyond its real capability, a lot of trouble can be caused," Qian wrote. "But the troubles and disasters the United States has met do not stem from the threats by others, but from its own cocksureness and arrogance."
Qian is a former foreign minister credited with breaking China out of diplomatic isolation after the crackdown on the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests. The invasion of Iraq "has made the United States even more unpopular in the international community than its war in Vietnam," he said. "The Iraq war has also destroyed the hard-won global anti-terror coalition," Qian added, saying it had caused a rise in terrorist activity around the globe and widened a rift between the United States and Europe.
"END OF EMPIRE"
The U.S. strategy of pre-emptive strikes would bring insecurity and ultimately the demise of the "American empire," Qian said. Analysts have said China has a slight preference for the incumbent in the U.S. election, realising that U.S. policy toward China has changed little from administration to administration. But China, growing in economic and political influence on the world stage, has expressed its aversion to Bush's unilateralist tendencies and sided with France and Germany in opposition to the Iraq war. "It is now time to give up the illusion that Europeans and Americans are living in the same world, as some Europeans would like to believe," Qian said. The United States had not changed its Cold War mentality, Qian said. "The 21st century is not the 'American century'. That does not mean that the United States does not want the dream. Rather it is incapable of realizing the goal," he said.
PRIME Minister John Howard's support of US President George W. Bush's re-election bid has been criticised by an adviser to Democratic challenger John Kerry. Mr Howard said last week he hoped Mr Bush wins this week's election. His comment has sparked criticism from a senior official in the Democratic stable, Kurt Campbell, who labelled it "inappropriate". Dr Campbell told a newspaper he remembered Australians being critical when the Bush administration commented about Australian politics. He reminded Australians that the same applied at home and such comments about US politics were "a little inappropriate". I thought Kerry was the choice of world leaders?
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With allies like these, who needs allies? Perhaps I need to start listening to L'il Eddie more when he starts screaming about f'ing job-thieving foreigners. Howard's an asshole, like all Austrians. Take Schwarenegger...
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Kerry is the choice of Arafat, Kim Jong Il, Fidel Castro and Bin Laden
http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SA1404
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Grunter's on the mark: Diana Kerry has been spreading their appeasement treachery among ex-pats, most notably in Australia. A real "world leader" doesn't support Mama T's boytoy and they squeal like pigs
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Tells you something about the deep hole that Germany's in today. Unification has been an economic, social and political disaster for them. They've saddled themselves with an unproductive dysfunctional welfare class some 20 million strong, a group of resenters whose political understanding is so backward that they long for totalitarian overlords.
The ossies are shaping up as a permanent drag on Germany's economic performance. To the extent the EU depends on the German economic engine, the EU is screwed.
A Pakistani's naturalisation as a German has been revoked after it emerged that he had a wife in each country, court officials said in the northern city of Lueneburg Monday. Judges said that at the time he gained his citizenship in 1998, he was approaching his 20th wedding anniversary in both nations. Officials in the city of Braunschweig who later told him to give back his passport said he had failed to meet the legal requirement at the time that he fit in with the German way of life. They said having both a Pakistani wife and a German wife had disqualified him. Judges rejected his claim that having more than one wife was a German custom. They noted that bigamy was against German law.
Knowing a few German women myself, one is quite enough, thank you. They require a lot of care and handling, similar to nitro.
On appeal last month, the superior administrative tribunal also rejected his complaint that he would end up stateless if he lost his German papers. He had been obliged to renounce Pakistani citizenship when he applied to become a German.
Now where did I put that nanoviolin?
My, these bananas are tough...
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Heh. Serves him right.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Good move. Why'd he renounce his Pakistani citizenship when he wasn't prepared to play by German rules? Nobber.
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For a guy who loves to bash Republicans and conservatives as purveyors of selfishness and greed, filmmaker Michael Moore seems determined to emulate that kind of behavior. The vitriolic anti-Bush propagandist is making one last pre-election offer of his schlockumentary "Fahrenheit 9/11," in which he blames the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on President Bush, for viewing online. Apparently Moore's left-wing activism against this president knows no bounds. He has made it clear he will stop at nothing to ensure his defeat. Election Day is mere hours away, and still Moore is working steadfastly to bring his defeatist message to as many potential voters as he can. But there's a catch: It'll cost you.
The Associated Press is reporting that CinemaNow, an Internet movie provider, will show the film Monday night to viewers who log on to the company's Web site and fork over $9.95. In case you miss that showing and you either want to gloat over Bush's defeat or share your angst at his victory, CinemaNow's boss, Curt Mavis, told AP "9/11" will be shown again in December. The film earned more than $100 million during its theatrical release - a record for a "documentary." And it hit store video shelves earlier this month
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I've always maintained that Moore realized that there was a big market for moronic and extremely badly written left-wing crap and he is just servicing the market. JP Barnum would be proud of him.
Many pollsters believe, based on previous election results, that the president's share of the actual vote does not exceed his vote share in the final pre-election polls. The following table averages Bush's vote share in the most recent polls in states where he is below 50. Theoretically, the further you go down the table, the harder it is for Bush to win the state, given his current vote share. The question is whether he can raise his overall standing enough to win at least 17 electoral votes' worth of states in which he is presently at 47.5 or below. We've calculated how his electoral count will advance tomorrow night if the states fall to him in the order suggested by their vote share averages. Sure enough--though we didn't plan it that way--the dividing line falls between Ohio and Florida. The linked article includes a table and map.
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In the closing hours of campaign 2004, John Forbes Kerry today charged the Bush-Cheney campaign with efforts to suppress the election day turnout of yet another minority group--America's trial lawyers.
Mr. Kerry said he's heard rumors that Bush-Cheney operatives plan to stage a series of minor automobile accidents in battleground states hoping to draw lawyers away from the polls.
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I don't know if it says more about me, this year's campaign, or John Kerry that I wasn't at all certain that he hadn't actually said that when I clicked on this thread.
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I think they are onto something with the staging of accidents. Maybe have some ambulances run through the swing states with the siren on. That would clear a lot of them out.
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We have ballot question number 2 in Alaska that proposes to outlaw bear baiting. Maybe this is similar. Check the laws of your state before doing this activity. Heh heh.
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AP, do you use lawyers to bait bears in Alaska?
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No CF, we do not use lawyers. We use wealthy, looney folks from Malabu, CA for that task. They are self-transporting and self-setting. Bears eat 'em up like candy!
Bears have been known to eat lawyers when they are starving. However, they eat alot of grass during the feeding to aid digestion. Constipation, ya know.
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NEW YORK (AP) _ Independent presidential candidate Ralph Nader denounced the Democratic and Republican parties at a rally near Wall Street on Monday and assured the crowd that a vote for him was not a wasted vote.
"The only vote you ever waste is a vote for someone you don't believe in," he said.
Nader spoke a block from Wall Street, across from the New York Stock Exchange, and used the location to highlight what he called the excessive influence of corporations over both major political parties.
Nader is on the ballot in 35 states, including swing states like Florida. Liberals, please for Nader
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In other news, water is wet.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Ralph who?
Posted by: Old Grouch ||
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"The only vote you ever waste is a vote for someone you donât believe in," he said.
>true enough. Always vote your consience, even if your stupid.
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You tell 'em Ralph!
I urge all progressives, Greens, and those showing solidarity with the Palestinian people to vote their consciences and principles, and not to follow the path of despair and expediency by voting for the capitalist war-monger John Kerry.
Kohn and his wife, Ida Lowe, who was born Jewish in Budapest, changed their name to Kerry, were baptized as Catholics in 1902, and immigrated to the United States in 1905.
For several years the Kerrys prospered, with Frederick working as a business consultant in Chicago and then moving the family to Massachusetts. In 1915, Richard, the father of future Senator Kerry, was born. By 1921, the Kerrys were wealthy enough to park a Cadillac outside their home at 10 Downing Road in Brookline. At the time, Frederick Kerry was described in the Globe as ``a prominent man in the shoe business.''
But on Nov. 23rd, 1921, Frederick Kerry walked into the washroom of Boston's Copley Plaza Hotel, pulled out a handgun, and shot himself in the head. Just days earlier he had filed a will revealing that his debts nearly equaled his assets. Six-year-old Richard Kerry was left without a father, though enough family money was available to send Richard to Yale University and Harvard Law School.
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Frederick Kerry's suicide note mentioned his utter regret he failed to marry a financially well off woman.
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Notice that we've never made that mistake again...at least I haven't.
Osama bin Laden warned in his October Surprise video that he will be closely monitoring the state-by-state election returns in tomorrow's presidential race — and will spare any state that votes against President Bush from being attacked, according to a new analysis of his statement... MEMRI said radical Islamist commentators monitored over the Internet this past weekend also interpreted the key passage of bin Laden's diatribe to mean that any U.S. state that votes to elect Bush on Tuesday will be considered an "enemy" and any state that votes for Kerry has "chosen to make peace with us."
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And before the collapse of the Soviet Union and the downsizing of the American military, the US public was the fourth largest armed body in the world.
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Kingsbay and Mayport are safely Red, as is Charleston and Pensacola....
Just a snippet We immediately fell for each other. I loved how John's normally grim visage-furrowed deep from grappling with the vexing issue of bike-path tolls: pro or con, or both? — lit up like a Pittsburgh dawn when I bought him the Tahoe house for our special one-month going-out anniversary! "By the Sacred Skull of Mithra!, as we used to say in Bones, you're just the kind of woman I've been looking for," he cried. Reader, I melted. Being a woman of experience whose veins pump with spicy Mozambican-Portuguese blood, I can tell you candidly that his kisses became ever more enflamed with passion as we jetted to Fox Chapel aboard Ketchup 57, my second-largest Gulfstream. "By the Knight of Euloga, this would make a great campaign plane," he murmured, enigmatically. I even adored his nickname for me-"honey-bunny"-though Andre says he once overheard John tell Ted I was his "money-honey," whatever that is.
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Gawd, she looks like the Drunken Houseweek of the Week on Lifetime.
'I don't think I can stay if Bush wins': Some Californians vow move to Canada if Kerry loses Screen door, etc.
LOS ANGELES - Some left-leaning Californians say they would rather leave the United States -- and go to Canada or elsewhere -- than stay with George W. Bush as president. ''I certainly don't love the climate of Vancouver, but I love the sanity,'' said Steve Crawford, 54, a singer and actor working as a volunteer at the Democratic Party offices in Santa Monica. A singer and actor is the arbiter of sanity? He works for the Dems and plans to leave if they lose, but don't dare question his patriotism.
He and his wife, Karen, have been investigating selling their home in Pacific Palisades, an upmarket area close to the coast, and moving to Canada. Global elites of every stripe hate and fear Bush. Why?
''For someone like me, if this happens, I can't in good conscience allow myself to support another Bush government, even benignly. And a lot of other people are saying the same.
''I have a good friend who is adamant he will leave if Bush is re-elected. He's picked two countries and will definitely go to one should this happen.'' Syria and North Korea?
In the heavily Democratic state, famous for its Hollywood- and San Francisco-inspired latte liberal politics, such talk has become increasingly common at Starbucks and at dinner parties. Another bullseye for the Telegraph, the center of anti-idiotarian resistance in the British media.
At first, the threat was little more than a joke. Now, on the eve of one of the most polarized elections in recent history, some say they really do intend to leave should ''the worst'' occur. There seems little doubt Californians will deliver the state's valuable 55 electoral votes to the Democratic candidate. In a poll on Friday, Mr. Kerry had a seven-point lead statewide, with a 24-point lead in Los Angeles county and a 35-point lead in the San Francisco Bay area.
But fear at what may happen in the key swing states of Ohio, Florida and Pennsylvania has led to an escalation in coffee-shop chatter about emigration to Canada, Britain and elsewhere. ''Do you think Great Britain would give us political asylum?'' a woman in Starbucks asked. ''It's just ... I don't think I can stay if Bush wins again.'' Only if you toe the Guardian line, but that should be easy enough.
Mr. Crawford said it would be a difficult decision to move his nine-year-old son from his elementary school. ''But if I feel he's going to be living in an environment that's not safe for him, then I will do it. First and foremost I'm a dad.'' His son is in danger because lib fruitbats like him have turned California into a terror-loving crime-infested lunatic asylum.
Gretchen Witte, 35, from Alhambra, east of Los Angeles, who runs her own Internet business, is making plans to move to London, where she previously lived for eight years, should Mr. Bush win. ''As a woman, the current climate is becoming intolerable. Bush has just appointed a man to the FDA reproductive health panel who believes that women with medical trouble should pray to Jesus for relief. If this is what America is becoming, I cannot live here. The only reason I can sleep at night is the thought that I can leave the country if he wins.'' She prefers to pray to Allah?
Robert Boleyn, a 35-year-old independent consultant from Los Angeles, says he hears people ''all the time' 'saying they will emigrate if Mr. Bush wins. ''But I think it's often more a measure of frustration with the last four years than a real intention to leave,'' he added.
Voluntary exile as a political statement is nothing new. Democrat-supporting celebrities have a habit of making (usually empty) threats to leave should the election not go their way. Robert Redford, a vocal critic of Mr. Bush's policies, was reported this month to have vowed to move to Ireland, where he owns homes near Dublin, if Mr. Bush is re-elected. Ah, Ireland, where every media-dhimmi is an infallible authority on American shortcomings. The smart ones left in the 1840s, so Redford should feel right at home.
Remember something when you read this: Those of us who might be annoyed at a Kerry victory have nowhere to go. I, for one, will not desert the ship even if it sinks. America is the last best hope for free people.
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The sad part is these folks will not leave. And, even if they do (Redford) they will not give up their citizenship or their US wealth. These are only posseur exiles. They want to seem like real exiles in their own eyes but with out the cost. And have you noticed they all want to go to places that speak Engish and have coffee shops. So, 'nuf said'.
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That putz Alec Baldwin is still in the US after making the same claim before the 2000 election. What makes anyone think these moonbats are any more trustworthy?
Although, on the face of it, it's just another reason to vote Bush and hope some of these freaks are serious. Bonus!
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AC, this is music to my ears! I only hope there is a MASS migration of the LLL from California to all far flung corners of the globe. I donât care where they go, only that they go and leave soon after the election as possible. Sorry Canada and UK but I fear you will bear the brunt of the LLL exodus from our country. In return I think we should offer to allow a number of center-right citizens to immigrate to this country. If they are not enough applications from UK/CAN then open it to anyone. I bet we could fill all those âemptyâ spots with people who actually love this country and want to be here. Goodbye my LLL brethren! I wish I could say that I will miss you but I wonât!
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It's likely that these whiners will Baldwin out of their promise, but we should be concerned about the possibility that they will go through with it - after all, this will only serve to make the countries to which they move hate us more.
I wish these overpaid moonbats would shut up and just leave.
In fact, I hope the lot of them move to England. I think they'd be a tad surprised when the burglars broke in, they protected their children with a baseball bat, and they ended up going to jail while the burglar not only went free but sued them. Serve them right.
[No offense, UK Rantburgers. Just the way it is until you take back your country from the leftist nutjobs running it.]
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Ramp this up, expand it by a couple of orders of magnitude. Sign a transatlantic free trade deal in which every US idiotarian who wishes to go into exile shall be given automatic EU citizenship in proportion to every EU scientist, technologist or entrepreneur who desires US citizenship. One for one. No returns, and no tears.
Deal?
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I don't see this happening. What foreign states would want these unproductive POS's? State-grant art/film productions aren't big in foreign lands....
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I have France in mind. The French seem to have a thing for nice-looking American airheads of the Hollywood persuasion. And the French have a very large number fo well-educated scientists and technologists who are greatly frustrated by that country's lack of academic freedom and venture funding.
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I think Oz and Mooseland will let you come if you have a skill. Most of the female LLL started working on their back so maybe that can be called a skill? I doubt the guys are skilled at anything other than repeating words off a page and probably won't find a home in either. Maybe they need a lot of Starbucks servers? They should know how to make a latte.
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The prospect of swapping these jokers for hardworking EU strivers and brainiacs is exciting.
Makes one want to advertise as an "Political Asylum Expert" offering help with emigration and exile issues in Variety or the Village Voice. This could be really fun.
#18
Offer Castro a 3-for-1 trade: we'll give him three LLLs for every dissident.
Oh, okay Fidel, 4 to 1, but only 'cause we feel sorry for you.
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Californians going to Canada, thats funny! Liquer stores are closed more often than open, you can buy booze in the Golden State 24/7 by god. Thats a big deal too. And as for the SoCal types, please it would take like one week of gray skies and histeria would set in. Nope, all bluster.
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Implied that it would be a terrible loss if they left. YA right pack your bags fuckwits and get OUT!
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A lot of this "Bush hating" is a red herring. For some of these people, their hatred has nothing to do with Bush. THEY HATE AMERICA!!! End of story.
These people cannot come out and say they hate America because they are gutless. I disagree with a lot of things that Bush is doing. But, I don't hate him. I can't stand the site of these anti-American pigs. It makes my blood boil. I love this country and Israel. The right to disagree with anyone is a right and a privelege, thats why freedom loving countries must be preserved at all/any cost.
When you have ideological bomb throwers like Chris Heinz calling Bush a "coke head" and that the Israeli Lobby is too strong, they are being disenginous to the GREATEST country in the world. So what if Bush did cocaine and drank heavy, instead of bashing him people should commend him for turning his life around. The last thing I need is a unforgiving closet druggie (i.e. designer drugs) calling someone a "coke head"
Chris Heinz sez, "the U.S. treats Israel like the 51st state and its wrong". Damn straight Israel is our 51st state and India could be our 52nd state. If you got a problem with that, LEAVE NOW!!! If the stupid morons like Chris don't like it, go and live with Arafarrrt in sissy France.
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I got a Romanian and a Vietnamese guy working with me. I let them read this and they laughed and wanted to know how these idiots would deal with 4 years of Caucesceau or 4 years of Ho Chi Mihn? No Starbucks either...
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I give high marks to the following turnof the phrase:
Don't let the door hit ya,
where the good Lord split ya!
Even gets a 5 yard penalty for the religious reference.
And one other note... Alec Baldwin claims to have never said such a thing... that it was his nutcase wife who did in the midst of their ugly divorce. He is still a twit, but I have corrected his account.
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I say small farking loss of these parasites move out. Hope not to the UK - they (the UK) are our ally and I would not wish these elitist on anyone.
But they wont. When they find that they cannot enslave hire an illegal alien for next to nothing to keep their yards, watch their spoiled spawn and do their cooking and dishes they will change their minds.
And they sure won't go to the workers paradise of N. Korea or Vietnam either.
#28
Fine if they leave. The country will slowly get California back from the aliens. These LLL must realize that if they give up their California residency that they forever become inelligable for any benefits from the proposed $3 BILLION state stem cell research initiative, if it passes. Bwahahaha!
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"Damn straight Israel is our 51st state and India could be our 52nd state."
Israel is NOT our 51st State and never will be. Also, as an American married to an Indian National, I can assure you that the Indians have absolutely no interest in being an American state.
Some Indians migrate here and are usually very productive, but they tend to keep to themselves until about the 3rd generation American born.
The vast majority of Indians views vis-a-vis America and Americans is one of casual disinterest.
-AR
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Don't come back!
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AR,
Too late, Israel is already our 51st state. The Orthodox Jews and true (those who haven't fallen for the Replacement Theory trick)Christians will make sure it stays that way.
But anyway, I was talking about a metaphorical 51st and 52nd state in the realm of economic, democratic, and military cooperation.
I strongly disagree your assessment of India. The only reason India and the U.S does not have a better relationship is because the U.S. in the past(Nixon-Kissinger), chose to be better friends with Paki's. So India had built a relationship with Russia. India cannot afford a unstoppable China and Russia is in bed with the Mullas. So, India has no choice but to be friends with Israel and the U.S. Hence, 51st and 52nd state.
>>>>>Moving to the present and future, India has built a powerful relationship with Israel. The U.S has seen the error of their ways and now has built a economic and military alliance with India.
As the saying goes, Out with the old and in with the new.
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#23 Jersey Mike: "Don't let the door hit ya in the ass."
No, no, no, Mike. How many time do I have to tell you?
It's "Don't let the door hit ya in the ass - brain damage is a recordable injury."
It's a safety thing. ;-p
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I hear France is real nice this time of year. :-)
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...Canada and Oz don't take such a hospitable view regarding Americans trying to settle in their countries. Anybody know?
There are about 112,000 Americans living in Ontario. Don't know about the other provinces, and no stats on the Ozzies.
Yeah I'm sure they'll love it in Canada. Two months of summer and 50% of your income goes to pay for...well, it's just gets taken away.
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I would have to question the psychological health of someone who can't sleep at night over the re-election of Bush, an event that would probably not have the slightest effect on her personal life; in contrast to the people of Iraq, who might well have good reason to lose sleep over the possible election of Kerry.
I may be encroaching on conspiracy theory territory here, but I think the whole Bush-hatred thing is mostly drummed up by left-wing operatives as a way of motivating and expanding the base, in much the same way that Soviet operatives drummed up the nuclear disarmament movement back in the cold war.
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Arnold is pretty well off. Maybe we can get him to charter a barge to Canada?
Oh, wait - wrong fictional species of sophonts. Oh well.
Seems some tenditious jerks in Portland think it's important to let you know that the "Klingons" are voting for John Kerry.
Right. Gotcha. Don't call us, we'll call you, ok?
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Damn, Karl Rove really has his A-game going on. Hey Kerry supporters! It's you and these dorks!
Curt Schilling wasn't supposed to pitch again this year, but he made a surprise appearance with President Bush Monday morning in Ohio and was also expected to accompany the president to Pennsylvania later in the day. The Red Sox pitcher, who canceled a scheduled campaign stop with Bush in New Hampshire last week, saying he was unable to travel because of his ankle injury, is also endorsing the incumbent on automated phone calls in three battleground states.
Schilling introduced Bush in an airplane hangar in Wilmington, Ohio, telling thousands of supporters that they should elect a president who supports the troops "every step of the way." America needs "a leader who makes sure they have everything they need to get the job done, a leader who believes in their mission and honors their service, a leader who has the courage and the character to stay on the offense against terrorism until the war is won." "That leader is our commander in chief, George W. Bush," Schilling said. Bush campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel said Schilling would also appear with the president in Pennsylvania. After his sore ankle prevented him from attending Bush campaign rallies Friday, Schilling recorded endorsements that are being used through Election Day in New Hampshire, Maine and Pennsylvania. Bush spokeswoman Nicolle Devenish said the pitcher "must have been feeling better. He reached out to our campaign and offered to help."
Meanwhile, Democrat and Red Sox fan John Kerry countered the Schilling effect by recruiting the team's principal owner, John Henry, part-owner Tom Werner and general manager Theo Epstein to appear with him Sunday at a campaign stop in Manchester, N.H.
Who the average fan would not know or care about.
"Anyone who works for the Red Sox is free always to speak up, campaign as they so choose," team spokesman Charles Steinberg said Sunday. "We're big supporters of freedom of speech."
Translation: "What are we gonna do if he doesn't listen to us, cut him? Are you insane?"
Schilling endorsed Bush in a TV interview Thursday, a day after the Red Sox won the franchise's first World Series in 86 years. He agreed to appear with Bush on Friday but later canceled.
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I say this is a good analogy for this race: The rich execs who greedily charge the everyman $5 for a hamburger, v/s the guy who actually throws the strikes over the plate.
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The average fan would know there's a HUGE difference between the owners and GM as opposed to a player. In baseball, owners are scum who drive up ticket prices, charge too much for beer and hot dogs, and do everything in their power to make more money.
For the Kerry team to go, "Hey, he's got Schilling, so we should get some Sox" and be able only to come up with those bluebloods speaks worlds about the differences in the two candidates.
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Theo's a rich kid from Brookline, a serious beautiful people suburb of Boston. Werner was Katie Coric's boytoy for awhile and made his money as a TV producer. I think Henry's an alien, as in extraterrestrial. I'd rather have them spend their time trying to sign Pedro, Varitek, and Cabrera.
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Werner was Katie Coric's boytoy for awhile and made his money as a TV producer.
Werner was also one of the Padre owners back in '92. The same schmuck who had the brilliant idea of inviting Roseanne Barr to sing the national anthem. He dismantled the team while it still had a shot at the playoffs.
If you don't know exactly where you need to go to vote tomorrow, this is the link to use to find out! You'll need your street address and your zip code--note that if you've moved and haven't updated your voter registration, you may need to enter your previous address.
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About 60 mainly European election observers have taken up their posts in six states, including Florida and Ohio, saying they hope their presence will serve as a "preventative to the shenanigans" during voting tomorrow. "We will tell the people of Ohio whether their election is free and fair," said one of the observers, Hugo Coveliers, a Belgian senator who plans to monitor voting in Cleveland. I'd like to see this mother go to Cincinnati and say that. Even in Cleveland, I think there's a good chance he'll learn the difference between a laceration and a contusion
    But many of the parliamentary observers sponsored by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) are here to learn about the American electoral experience as much as to monitor it. That's a much safer story
    Several sat up straight during a lecture late last week by former Republican National Committee Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf when he talked about wedge issues and how to concentrate resources where they will produce the most ballots. "That's not a bad idea," whispered one Eastern European observer to a colleague. "This may be useful next year." Wait till he gets to the part about hanging Chad.
    The observers all are legislators who have volunteered to observe the U.S. elections at the request of the OSCE, a 55-member alliance founded in 1975 to foster East-West cooperation and monitor compliance with the Helsinki Accords. The Bush administration issued the invitation only reluctantly, and the presence of the Europeans has angered many Americans, who see it as an infringement of U.S. sovereignty. I didn't know Bush invited them. Dumb.
       The OSCE rules do not allow observers to do much more than make sure that local rules are followed. If they see someone burning ballots in the alley, they are not permitted to interfere. Nor are they supposed to criticize the army of lawyers, negative advertising or simplistic campaign speeches that many of them seem to find jarring. Nevertheless, the observers hope their presence will serve as a "preventative to the shenanigans," said Mr. Coveliers, the Belgian senator. "What [the voters] can be sure about is, if there are obvious shortcomings, an international organization of 55 countries will declare there are shortcomings."
"And may do so even if there aren't. I'm Belgian, y'know..."
The program has not been easy to coordinate: The Greek delegation, which won the coveted Fort Lauderdale, Fla., slot, confounded the OSCE by refusing to stay in nonsmoking hotel rooms. Aris may be en route as we sleep!
    The Russians and Kazakhs must monitor elections within driving distance of Washington because their governments cannot afford to fly them around the United States, according to Vitaly Evseyev, a Russian official with the OSCE. Someone should tell them about JetBlue
    There are few concerns about voting plans in North Carolina and Virginia, he added, "but they really want to experience a U.S. election. They're not here to look for trouble." That's good, cause they wouldn't have much trouble finding it in those places.
    "It would be impossible to spend that much money in Switzerland," They must not have television
marveled Cleveland observer Barbara Haering, a full-time environmental lawyer and member of Switzerland's part-time parliament, "probably because we are not allowed to advertise on television. Yup "
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"'We will tell the people of Ohio whether their election is free and fair,' said one of the observers, Hugo Coveliers, a Belgian senator who plans to monitor voting in Cleveland"
This is European authoritarianism, bigotry, and condescension in their purest form.
I tell M. Coveliers and his fellow commissars to shove their presumed authority where the sun doesn't shine; the caves and swamps of darkest Eurabia, that is.
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Unfortunately it looks like they won't be in Massachusetts. Of course, since it will go to Kerry, there will be no voting improprieties here.
I wish they were coming. I'd like to see if my shoe could fit up their ass.
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Unbelievable. Rove truly is a genius. Could anyone have scripted a better way to piss off ordinary Americans and drive them into the President's camp?
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The Euro-swine and their American collaborators need to understand something, and I am as serious as I can be: Any attempt on their part to actually enforce their authority will be resisted by force.
This statement by the pig-authoritarian Covelier comes only two days after The Lancet, formerly the UK's most respected medical journal, sold its soul to the Muslim terrorists with the breathtakingly dishonest claim that upwards of 100,000 Iraqis had been killed by US air attacks.
Make no mistake, the Swine intend to destroy us, literally, and the Islamo-fascists are merely their proxies.
The Euro-elites are the spiritual heirs of Goebbels and Streicher and should be dealt with accordingly.
Europe needs a revolution, but I am afraid that is people are too smug, too deluded by their own chauvinistic propaganda of superiority, to understand their own danger, and the nature of the enemy in their midst.
John Kerry's stepson, Chris Heinz, complained at a recent campaign stop that Jews have too much influence on the U.S. presidential election. Sooner or later today's limo-leftists always lower their guard.
"One of the things I've noticed is the Israel lobby," the ketchup heir said, in quotes picked up Sunday by the New York Post. Heinz complained that Israel was being treated as "the 51st state, sort of a swing state."
In more overheated rhetoric first reported by Philadelphia magazine, Heinz called Bush supporters "our enemies" and said that if he ran his stepfather's campaign, the attacks on President Bush would get even uglier. Indeed?
"We didn't start out with negative ads calling George Bush a cokehead," Heinz reportedly explained before adding, "I'll do it now." Asked later about the comment, Heinz turned sarcastic, saying: "I have no evidence. He never sold me anything."
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Usually kids don't fall to far from the tree. So this guy's antisemitism should be illustrative.
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The sad part is, among Dem activists, he was probably just saying out loud what they all think in private.
I have a dear friend who is a liberal Jew, and a straight-ticket Democrat voter. I do not know if she realizes that there are an awful lot of people in her party that wouldn't mind seeing her dead. I pity her for what it will be like on the day she finally gets it.
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This incident seemed like a deliberate GOTV action to me, picking up on the anti-Israel stance of many in Ivy league schools like U Penn (home to the B-school where Heinz made these remarks).
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I have to agree with Mike. Many of the people I know are liberal ABB people. To a person, they echo these sentiments - but only in hushed tones and sarcastic comments. What I find most shocking, is realization is that their snide comments are feelers looking for is a sympathetic ear - to validate and expand on the Zionist cabal theme.
If Kerry wins, I expect they will be free to become more open and vicious about their beliefs.
It's shocking and frigtening that history would be willing to repeat itself on such a bloody and discredited lie.
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rkb is correct as usual. What is astounding and what I would love to hear Liberalhawk explain, is the reticence of Jewish Americans to leave the Democrat party. It was clear in the Clinton Administration that the Ds were anti-Israel. Yet Gore got the preponderance of their support. I don't think they should be single issue voters, but neither should they be blue dog voters. And now the anti-Israelism is turning into Anti-Semitism. What gives?
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Mrs. D...the jewish people that I know identify more with the Democratic party than they do with Israeli politics.
Likewise, most of my friends who are Jewish pshaw and are disbelieving of the level of anti-Semitism that exists among the left. I'm not even sure if they are aware of just how venomous the left has become since it is a sensitive subject to discuss - and like most racist comments, they are made in cowardly whispers to welcoming ears.
I have heard shocking anti-Semitic comments from people who are very friendly with the Jews they know personally; individuals whom they truly like as individuals and harbor no ill will. Rather, it's as if, when talking about "the Jews", they are referring to that big anonymous group of "they" - the rich Zionist Cabal - that's the problem. They don't seem to be specifically referring to David, who lives next door..."even though he's Jewish, he's a great guy". But that doesn't make the overall trend any less troubling or dangerous.
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What is astounding and what I would love to hear Liberalhawk explain, is the reticence of Jewish Americans to leave the Democrat party
What Young Ketchup Scion has done is to amplify the fears of those liberal Democratic jewish voters who suspect, rightly, that Kerry's pro-French posture will lead to strong pressure on him to sell out Sharon and Israel.
Can't speak for LH but my own view, as a nat'l security Dem, is that Bush stands to pick up perhaps 40% of the jewish vote this year, instead of the usual 20% that the Repub candidate gets. The only times in recent history that such a shift has happened have been when the Dem candidate was so completely dovish vs the Soviets, and soft on supporting Israel as well (these positions tend to go together) were in 1972 and 1980. Guess whose foreign policy platform Kerry's most resembles? Can you say, McGovern? Marty Peretz, editor of the New Republic and a close buddy of Al Gore, has made this case very forcefully recently, as have Ed Koch and others.
Here's how the numbers work: Bush will win all of the Orthodox jews (10% of total jewish vote) + all of the Republican jews who are Reform or Conservative (~10% of total) + ~25% of the 80% or so of jewish voters who are liberal Democrats. Since the jewish vote is at least 6% of the Florida vote, and 5-6% of the Pennsylvania vote, this shift-- of 0.20 x 0.06 = 1.2% will likely make the difference in FL and PA, and hand the election to Bush. So best to give Ketchup Boy a bigger platform, and a miocrophone, and a spot on Katie Couric.
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I hope you are right, Lex. But of the Jewish people that I know - a fair number - ALL are avidly supporting Kerry - except one who was recently in Israel.
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2b and others with Kerry-voting Jewish friends:
It's not too late to point out this clown's latest pronouncement to them.
Maybe some of them might start to think.
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Barbara - I wish I could say that I would - but even asking probing questions results in being shot as the messenger - shotgun blasts right to the face. They won't change their minds - and the only result is that I would have created resentment. Even among those I am very close with, this subject is 100% taboo - that's why I'm interested in doing it through the facelessness of the internet.
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I've forwarded it to Roger L. Simon, the liberal, pro-Bush, pro-Iraq War blogger and Oscar-winning Hollywood screenwriter/novelist: www.rogerlsimon.com
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I think Glenn already had it this morning. Oh...and make sure you put the "L" in rogerlsimon.com!
rogersimon.com is a chief correspondent for US News and a loon. Roger Simon v/s Roger L. Simon is the perfect analogy to highlight the fall of the Major media and the rise of the blogs.
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From Marty Peretz's editorial in his magazine (he's one of three owners, also has been the chief editor for 30 years) the New Republic:
http://tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=peretz110804
Excerpt: "since [Kerry] has so much esteem for the United Nations and the "world community," who can be sure that Kerry would employ the "permanent member" veto power on Israel's behalf?)
The European Union also has great cachet with Kerry, and its mischievous views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are shared by Kerry advisers like Martin Indyk and Rand Beers. The European Union disapproves of Sharon's plan to vacate all of the Gaza settlements and four in northern Samaria, claiming this is a cover for Israel retaining the rest of the West Bank. As Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has made clear, the present Israeli government intends to withdraw tens of thousands of settlers from their homes. But it will not return to the precarious cease-fire lines of 1949. Yet, for France and Spain and, for that matter, Indyk, Israel's withdrawal must be complete--that is, to the old frontiers, as if these will suddenly bring it peace. These are not Bush's borders. And, since Kerry has not disavowed his advisers, it is more than reasonable to suspect that they are his.
Now, another Kerry eminence, Zbigniew Brzezinski, habitually cavalier about Israel's perils, has put out a hash of tattered ideas that include bringing European and Muslim troops to Iraq--and perhaps even persuading Iran to foreclose its nuclear option and ending U.S. isolation in the struggle against Islamist terrorism. All that, and just by leaving Israel in the lurch.
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I don't understand why many Jewish Americans don't vote conservative as I've found that the Jews who've tried to go out on a limb for social justice for instance in the case of blacks have only beed despised for it by that same group. I also couldn't understand as one of our most industrious sectors of society Jews as a whole don't vote conservative.
As for the blacks, they've been on the dimmi plantation so long they just lock step to the polls for the dimmis. I find it comical that niether Sharpton nor Jackson have whined that Kerry has not picked one minority for a cabinet position. F*cking race baiter charlatans is all they are.
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"It was clear in the Clinton Administration that the Ds were anti-Israel. Yet Gore got the preponderance of their support."
Doesn't anybody remember Joe Lieberman? That's the main reason why Gore received most of the Jewish vote in 2000.
I'm a former straight-ticket Jewish Dem voter (watch those cat-calls now.) that's now voting for Bush with no remorse whatsoever.
A friend of my daughter's grandmother just got back from Israel and said that the majority of eligible voters is voting for Bush. I also know that there is a large Ultra-Orthodox push to vote in this election as well whereas in the past the Ult. Ortho's didn't bother to vote.
Traditionally, Israeli voters mirror the split of Jewish voters in the US.
Not this year, IMO. I think that Bush will receive greater than 30% of the Jewish vote.
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Thanks LH. I look forward to reading it.
Danking70. You're right. My early onset senility. But still...
2b I have had the same experience as you with my Jewish friends. It's like voting D is one of the ten commandments.
Mark Espinola. Occasionally the animations are funny. Constantly, annoying.
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I forget how to access the sink trap. LH..maybe you'd like to rethink it and clean it up so your thoughts aren't worthy of being there. It's not easy to get thrown with out the garbage here at rantburg!
A person marries into a religion that he/she knows will result in their own mistreatment; they ask you later for help because they are being mistreated. You help. They divorce and marry the same way (make the same mistake) again; you help again.
How many times can this person expect help from you before you demand some level of responsible decision making, some inkling of self preservation on their part?
For any Jews who will vote for the Dems in this election, when they know that the Dem platform bends over backwards with concern over suicide bombers and the plight of the Palestinians, while promoting international engagement with Islamic factions that seek the extermination of Jews-Palestinian jihadis would be one example-should we simply smile and tolerate your own urge for self destruction, when we know darn well the outcome of your choice will mean America has to save the day again, with our blood, sweat, money, and international reputation as a fair power?
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LH...shipman's probably right about it being automatic. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts...though I'm a strong believer that one person never can represent a group - but it's just beyond me why Jews are sticking with the left. The far left is all about blame and shame these days, and the "too powerful jews" are becoming their scapegoat chic.
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I taught in the university for many years until I got pissed off about education being supplanted by PC and retired early. Not all faculty in universities believe the PC party line but a large percentage do. The radicals of the 60s took over the universities of the new millenium. Moreover, faculty makeup looks like the UN. I think faculties tend to vote Democratic for the most part. Anti-semitism seems active in today's universities.
My in-laws and other relatives on my wife's side (all Jewish) all vote Democratic. When asked why, they say we always have. We get chided about being Republicans. I don't get it. Reagan supported Israel. Bush supports Israel. I don't believe the Democrats care anything about Israel. I'm glad to see Bush picking up more Jewish support. There is a hypocracy and phoniness inherent in today's Democratic Party. The party went way over to the left with the Clintons and never came back. The Democrats masquerade as moderates and centrists to win elections. I have heard many Democrats say they would vote for Clinton again if they could. You just feel like shaking them to get the sawdust out of their brains.
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The reason most non-Orthodox jews are reluctant to declare a preference for Bush is the deep antipathy to the Christian Right.
Y'all can call this irrational if you like, but most jewish Americans find it difficult to get in bed with the likes of Pat Robertson. This is the only possible reason that Kerry might get anything more than two-thirds of the jewish vote this year.
Nonetheless, the polling booths remain private, and I therefore stand by my prediction that Closet Bush Backers will constitute 20% or more of the jewish vote (+ another 20% from Orthodox and Republican jewish voters). How the hell do you think Schwarzenegger got 60% of the California Democratic vote? If an Austrian nazi's son could get a few hundred thousand liberal jewish votes, then certainly Israel's strongest ally will get a million liberal jewish votes nationwide tomorrow. Don't confuse what people publicly say with how they actually behave in the privacy of the voting booth.
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I agree with you Lex. I think the reason that the Jewish voters are unwilling to acknowledge the very real and ominous threat from the left - is that it leaves them facing a demon that they have spent their lives believing to be a source of all that is wrong with America - the Christian right.
The irony is that it is only the Christian's have never harmed them and have provided the only sanctuaries in the world where they can live in peace. But because for so many years they could not find acceptance within it's majority - they joined with the socialists and communists and well meaning people on the left who sought to undue the Christian influence in Western societies.
I don't think they can get past it to realize just how serious this "powerful jew" rhetoric has become on the left. It only took 6 weeks after Hitler was elected for the pogroms to begin. SIX WEEKS! Now, obviously we aren't near that yet, but that just goes to show you how quickly this blame game can spin out of control when promoted from the top.
I really think Jewish voters need to take a long look in the mirror before they pull that lever for Kerry. Pat Robertson to date hasn't harmed anything but their patience. That Kerry's son would spew this ugly talk bodes very poorly as does Kerry's obvious willingness to sacrifice Israel to win "global" approval.
Looks like none of the rumored bigs (Lehmann, Warner) were willing to talk about this on the record. But it's interesting that this clears up the why-he-didn't-get-into-Harvard-Law question.
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The really bad ending is that if Kerry wins, the MSM will turn on him like a shark, which is what they are. I would bet that this story would get big play by the end of 2005 were Kerry in the hot seat. Recall they didn't do Clinton any favors.
This is the problem with the MSM. They all see the base for a career being to destroy somone in public life. It started with Watergate and hasn't ended since. The blogosphere is slowly changing that by eroding their power. Faster, please.
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I dont think the MSM would 'turn on' Kerry. After all they outright lied to support Clinton when he lied under oath. They outright lied when they said the 'conservative' social security increase was a slash-cut which would leave millions of seniors starving or dying because they would not be able to afford medicine.
They might turn on Kerry when '08 rolls around in favor of Billary.
I agree that the blogsphere is slowly eroding their powerbase (faster please). Their reaction to what happened with CBS is a good indicator.
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I also don't think that the MSM would turn on Kerry. They would, perhaps, give him just a bit more scrutiny but I believe that should Bush lose their next targets will be the Republican controlled House and Sentate.
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No way is the MSM going to turn on Kerry like a shark: he is "their" candidate and they will spin like tops throughout his entire term to present his screwups as triumphs. The only reason they went after Clinton-- even to the very limited extent they did-- was that sex scandals are just too damned juicy to ignore because they are so good for Nielson ratings.
As for Kerry's less-than-honorable discharge, watch what happens to military recruitment and re-enlistment levels if the sonofabitch wins tomorrow: serving a draft-dodger like Clinton was one thing; serving someone who's a traitor, a glory-grabber and a buddyfucker is something else entirely.
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I take it you won't be throwing your support to John "Did I tell you I was in Vietnam" Kerry right Dave?
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Let's put it this way: I'm not one of the "undecideds".
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Dave D. A lot of my friends in the military are very concerned over the election. They hate Kerry with a passion and don't want to serve under him but they love the US and don't want to abandon the military either. They are really torn about what to do, much like a lot of officers at the start of the Civil War.
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Like I said in another thread, I think there's going to be a massive exodus from the military if Kerry wins; short of electing "Hanoi Jane" Fonda herself, there couldn't possibly be a worse insult to our troops than a Kerry presidency. It would be like spitting in their faces and telling them all their dedication, skill, bravery and sacrifice aren't worth a bucket of warm shit.
If Kerry wins, I expect recruitment and re-enlistment rates to plummet as knowledge of what kind of "Vietnam war hero" he really was spreads, and as the disastrous reality of his foreign policy begins to sink in. Kerry will have a difficult choice to make: either scale back our foreign deployments drastically, or re-instate the draft.
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I'll repeat what I said in a similar thread Friday; in terms of the election:
I doubt that last-minute revalations on Kerry's DD-214 will do much one way or the other. Those who've decided not to vote for him on the basis of his antiwar activities have already figured he got a less than honorable discharge. The moonbats would probably consider a less-than-honorable discharge a badge of honor.
Put it another way: how many of you can imagine an Angry Left liberal saying to himself, "I really hate Bush, I suport Planned Parenthood and gay marriage, and I agree with Michael Moore that this is a war for oil, but I'll be damned if I'll vote for a guy who betrayed us to the North Vietnamese!"
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Mike,
For the third of the population that's hardcore D and the third that's hardcore R, you're correct. For the third in the middle, but for the third in the middle, raised D, thinking R, it would be devastating and give Bush a huge victory.
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Mrs. D: Don't mean to sound dismissive, as I think you're right to an extent, but I still doubt it will have much effect. (If this story had broken in June or July, well, that's another story.) Most of that middle group has already made up its mind, and I'm fairly confident that the probability that Kerry's discharge was a little hinky (sp?) was already factored in to the decision. That's why I think there'll be no big effect now.
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The students who read Weekly Reader's magazines have made their preference for President known: they want to send President Bush back to the White House. The results of this year's Weekly Reader poll have just been announced, and the winner is President Bush. Hundreds of thousands of students participated, giving the Republican President more than 60% of the votes cast and making him a decisive choice over Democratic Senator John Kerry. Since 1956, Weekly Reader students have correctly picked the president 11 out of 12 times, making the Weekly Reader poll one of the most accurate predictors of presidential outcomes in history. President Bush was a strong winner in the student poll; the only state Senator Kerry won was Maryland. Senator Kerry was also in a statistical dead heat with President Bush in New York, Massachusetts, Washington, D.C. and Vermont. President Bush won most grades, although Senator Kerry did win among tenth-graders. ...more... including link to results...
Kids. Cool. Except the boneheaded HS Sophs - ah, those last days on the Mom & Dad dole... Part-time jobs and responsibility are the cure.
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Obviously, I hope adults are as smart. BTW only about 2,100 out of 327,000 voters were 10th graders.
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Kerry won for 10th graders. That would be the sophomores.
Definition of sophomore: foolishly wise
Coincidence? I think not.
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HS sophs are at that difficult age where parents aren't that cool. Voting for Skerry is a way of rebelling. The PC crowd in public education (?) tries to fill HS students' heads with mush. In fact, I think a lot of the Demos are adolescents in their thinking. They practice the 3 Rs--rowdiness, rebellion, and rancor.
The Weekly reader kids most likely reflect parent views--they have not been corrupted yet. It seems to me that in the past the Weekly Reader voting has accurately reflected the outcome of many elections. We can hope!!!!
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"who has injected religion into public affairs more than any president has in modern times." Have these people ever read that document that states: "We are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rightsâ¦â Or wondered why people are âSworn (to god) into Office, court, etc. A group of men 210 years ago âinjected religion into public affairsâ when they framed the document that were the basis for our country. Itâs only the LLL that continually try to distance the country from religion.
No, not that kind. This is another kind of dead voter, heh.
GHOST VOTERS: An untold number of absentee and early ballots cast before Election Day by people who later die will be counted. States differ on whether they count such votes and what they do to weed them out.
GETTING WORSE: New in-person early voting used by millions in at least 30 states makes it harder to retrieve ballots after a voter's death.
SO WHAT? An average of 455 voting-age people die in Florida every day — nearly as many as the 537 who decided the presidential election in Florida in 2000.
RATTLING CHAINS: Thousands of lawyers from both parties could find the phenomenon of dead voters more than just an Election Day curiosity and challenge the ballots.
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Florida is God's grazing ground. People tend to die more frequently. They mysteriously get resurrected to vote. Or if you believe in reincarnation, they get reincarnated to vote in Ohio. The Clinton appointed judges have great powers--they can raise the dead and make it legal.
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He needs 50% in the first election or it goes to a runoff.
And the problem is in the Runoffin Luisiana, all those dead voter show up to pul the lever for the Dem, whoever it is. The Dems seem to pull it off every time: Happened in 2002.
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The guy's name is David Vitter, and his chances are very good.
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I heard about this on TV - They have a weird system in LA where rather than running against parties - it goes to the guys with the most votes. All parties expect the GOP candidate to win the greatest number of votes, and the race is as to who is going to compete for second place.
US President George W. Bush vowed Sunday to "keep the pressure on" to rid Cuba of Fidel Castro, an appeal to the hard-line Cuban-Americans Bush was counting on to win Florida and the White House.
If only he means this.
"I strongly believe the people of Cuba should be free from the tyrant," Bush told a boisterous crowd of supporters here two days before the election, winning the rally's loudest cheers and chants of "Viva Bush"—long live Bush. "Over the next four years, we will continue to press hard and ensure that the gift of freedom finally reaches the men and women of Cuba," he said. "We will not rest, we will keep the pressure on, until the Cuban people enjoy the same freedoms in Havana they received here in America." The crowd packed into the Coconut Grove Convention Center cheered, screamed and applauded, waving pro-Bush signs in English and Spanish and shouting: "Four more years!"
Like most Republican candidates in Florida, the state that decided the disputed 2000 election, Bush's hopes of victory here rest in large part on the support of the state's sizeable anti-Castro Cuban exile community. That reality underpinned the latest horseplay from Bush's top political strategist, Karl Rove, whose only words to reporters travelling to Miami with the president were a shouted "Cuba Libre" -- free Cuba. But Bush dropped the Cuba comments at campaign stops in Tampa, where the Cuban population is tiny, and Gainesville, where it is nonexistent. He was to travel to Ohio, without which no modern Republican has won the White House. Instead, he focused on attacking Kerry as certain to raise taxes and fickle on national security issues, and leavened his speech with an upbeat appeal to Americans to "come stand with me" come Tuesday. "If you believe America should fight the war on terror with all our might and lead with unwavering confidence in our ideals, I ask you to come stand with me," he said in Tampa.
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"I mean just look at the filthy old reprobate. Still smokin' those stogies, too. How long could he last?"
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On the issue of Castro, each Presidential election GOP candidates inform the Cubano community that that if elected their administration will work for the downfall of the repressive communist dictatorship. Since 1962 Castro still remains in command in Havana.
Unless Moscow & Washington remain glued to the outdated, post-1962, back room US-Soviet gentlemen's 'agreement',, which mandated a policy of 'you guys lay off of Cuba and we shall not act against Turkey' then during President Bush' 2nd term Cuba should be set free of Castro & his ruthless company of comrades. Cuba is only 90 miles from Key West. Its time!
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Actually its all been a Karl Rove plan - first discredit the UN so Americans won't give a crap what they screed, then get the French to promise to support Fidel, and then release the materials which have been underwraps for 40 years that the Russian never did remove the nukes. Can't have those falling into the hands of terrorist! Muhawahahahahah.
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Time to repudiate Kennedy's agreement. If the Ruskies want Turkey they can have it. No loss as far as I can see.
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Cuba is one of the global poles of fascism, though by far the smallest of the four I count (China, Russia/CIS and obviously Islamofascism are ofcourse the other three poles).
But right now, it'd be better if you focused on Islamofascism instead. You can't take out all the dictators of the world at the same time. No matter how much their continuing existence irks.
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Any deals Washington made with Nikita Kruschev are the same as those reached with Stalin during WWII =Void, void, void. In terms of Turkey, they were a lot help with Saddam....nuff said.
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No, unlike the Soviets and now the Russians, we like to keep our promises. Castro gets a free pass, as long as he lives. After he's dead, that's another story.
What was the promise? I don't recall it being ratified by the Senate.
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The fact that it wasn't public, but instead was a backroom deal, doesn't mean it wasn't made. The Sovs kept IRBM's out of El Paradisio del Trajabadores, we cleared ours out of Turkey, the deal was made.
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It means there's no deal the American people are obliged to adhere to.
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like Kyoto
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Well, I would argue thet's it's even more important to keep your backroom deals than it is to keep your public commitments. If you don't, you lose that capability to wheel and deal out of the limelight.
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It is important if you want to run a secret foreign policy. I doubt that's what the founders had in mind.
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It also got Europe WWI
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You CAN'T run an effective government totally out in the open, no matter what you think - and even if you could, you'd never get anywhere with most of the thugs, criminals and borderline psychotics running the majority of UN-recognized countries. They want a quid for their pro quo, baby, and if you can't deliver one, you're SOL.
The ONLY way to run an effective government, is in the open. This government belongs to the U.S. citizens not the bureaucrats and I will not give it up. We cannot allow our government to make back door deals.
I will give you an GOOD example. When the U.S. Senate was on Christmas vacation, Clinton tried to give the U.S. over to the ICC (Internationl Criminal Court). Clinton tried to sell the U.S down the river in a dangerous "back door" deal that would assure him the Nobel Peace prize. Clinton knew the U.S Senate would NOT ratify the handing of our freedoms to the chocolate making countries so, Clinton tried to bypass the Senate.
HAVANA, Nov 01, 2004 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- Cuba on Monday signed contracts to buy $10 million of U.S. wheat and meat products, and $300 million of American dairy cattle, launching a new round of deals for U.S. farm products projected to reach $150 million. The only deal with Castro is he can depart Cuba once he turns over power to the people of Cuba.
"We're all committed to cooperation," said rancher John Parke Wright, of J.P. Wright & Co. "What we represent are good relations, fellowship and free and open trade." (It should not surpirse anyone why Castro remains in power, with comments like this.)
Wright's Naples, Fla. company will ship the cattle to Cuba from Vermont. The $10 million deal was with Louis Dreyfus of Georgia for wheat, chicken and pork.
The deals were announced at the weeklong International Fair of Havana, also attended by companies including Archer Daniels Midland of Illinois, Tyson Foods of Arkansas, and Cargill Inc. of Minnesota. Dealing with the devil
Those agribusiness giants together have made a large percentage of the American farm sales since Cuba in 2001 began taking advantage of an exception to the U.S. trade embargo that allows the transactions on a cash basis.
Over the past three years, Cuba has contracted to buy more than $900 million in American farm goods, including shipping and hefty bank fees to send payments through third nations. Half of funds could have been used to overthrown the commies.
As of Sept. 1, American food producers had received $704.3 million from Cuba for the cumulative deals, minus the extra costs, according to the U.S.-Cuba Trade and Economic Council, which tracks business between the two countries.
For the first eight months of this year, Cuba was placed at No. 22 of 225 foreign agricultural markets for the United States, according to the council. Last year, Cuba was No. 35.
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Farming is a brutal business, particularly when farmers are faced with $50/bbl oil on already razor-thin margins. If we stop selling food to Cuba we'll just cede the business to Europe and South America, the only losers in that scenario are US farmers who are among those least able to withstand the hit.
Oil futures prices sank to their lowest level in nearly a month Monday on a continuation of the selloff sparked last week by rising U.S. supplies of crude and easing fears about the refining industry's ability to satisfy heating oil demand.
The downward momentum appeared to overshadow concerns traders had about a possible strike in oil-rich Nigeria and a new setback to Russian oil giant Yukos, which was reportedly hit with $10 billion in new tax claims on Monday.
December crude futures declined by $1.63 to settle at $50.13 per barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange — the lowest closing price since Oct. 4, when futures settled at $49.91 per barrel. Prices had fallen as low as $49.30 a barrel in intraday trade. In London, December Brent crude futures fell $1.92 to $47.06 per barrel.
"We could move a couple of bucks more on the downside," said BNP Paribas Futures trader Tom Bentz.
Bentz added that worldwide oil supplies remain tight and that, therefore, "I'd be a little cautious" about declaring the beginning of the end of high prices. "The reality is that not a lot has changed fundamentally," he said.
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We are now have RantBurg's Mark where we want him! Bear trapper for you buddi! Don't touch me railroads.
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Is there a tip jar for Espinosa? He's feeling a bit light these days.
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How about that. Wonder how far they'll fall Wednesday if Bush is the uncontested winner. Kinda makes you wonder why they rose. Chicoms, Soros or both.
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Someone has been playing the futures market since the beginning of the year.
Watch as oil prices crash through the floor shortly after Soros loses his bet against Bush.
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ya know, I got this great book from Barnes and Nobles on how to increase the likely hood of the sex of your child, worked for my wife & me. He didn't have to stab his girls, I'd of loaned it to him.
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Congrats, Lex! The reader's digest version of this book is basically it's a combination of diet (high in proteins like salmon, roast beef, peanuts, but no soy), period between ejaculations and coitus, and ahem, sexual position during the woman's ovulation in order to increase the likelihood of a boy or girl baby. We had a boy in July 2003 as that was my intended target.
That said, this question about gender selection is important. Are we or are we not crawling around on our knuckles? Should baby's genitalia determine how happy we are about a birth? Leave that to the societies caught up in bride sales (dowries), livestock exchange, and burkas. IMO, parents should accept the blessing gratefully, not sully it with concerns about gender.
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Jules, the book claimed to increase the chances by a certain percentage through natural means, not be a full proof medical procedure. (Which I disagree with.) Maybe it was more old wive's tale then anything else, who know. Of course I'd of been ecstatic no matter what the sex of the baby was. Give me a break, every Marine has to ensure his own replacement so that the Corps lives forever! ;)
It is not in the Koran but Shariah tells the right of vengeance for the murder of children (or is it only for daughters?) belong to the father. Something like a year ago an Iranian accused his seven years old daughter of sexual relations with her uncle. He decapitated her, and the judge was forced to let himm off the hook because of that provision in chariah.
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He should have killed himself. Scientific studies shows that the male chromosomes determines the sex of the child. Maybe an education above 5th grade for these cave dwellers would have helped.
But again, there is no such thing as a "gutless Muslim". (snicker>LOL>ROFLMAO)
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Only congrats go to you from me, Jarhead. No grudgy grinchiness when I hear about a family's happiness.
However, I do think it's important to consider, from a detached point of view, not as a personal critique, how far down an ugly road gender bias can take humanity. Selling kids of the "wrong" sex into prostitution (Thailand), selling brides because they are viewed as burdens rather than blessings (India), killing baby girls so that a male can carry on the family name (China, as least as I've heard), this case in Egypt above...all should make us reflect on the costs of valuing one sex of human beings over another.
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Congrats to all parents! I did nothing and ended up with two normal ones and two boys. Wanted a boy first but when daughter came out she stole my heart away. ;-)
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I don't mean to be a spoiler but, how in the hell did we go from a pig killing is daughters to Dr. Ruth Westheimer's method of maximizing sex, determination-semination/determination-semination/determination-semination/determination-semination?
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Just another facet of the "mainstream European/American culture is evil" multi-culti leftist rot. For an excellent antidote see Charles Murray's exemplary book Human Accomplishment
...Three months ago, officials in three districts of Uttar Pradesh, India's largest and most populous state, announced that to obtain a single-barrel shotgun, two people would need to be sterilised; for a revolver licence, the price would be five. What happened to the quintet of farm workers perspiring in the fields around the village of Shashitanda appears to be the unhappy result of the radical policy. In late July, a rich farmer seeking a gun licence is said to have had all five forcibly sterilised at a nearby clinic...
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I hate to say it but this sounds like a two-fer to me. Guns for sterilization to curb population.
Liberia 10-30-04 (pm)
Dear Friends of Liberia -
The past 48 hours in Liberia have again brought news of violence and conflict. Please be in prayer for our friends there and for the protection of the Christian witness in that country.
From what I have learned, on Thursday afternoon or evening, a group of Liberians from the Mandingo ethnic group started a disturbance in an area on the edge of Monrovia, known as the Red Light junction. The conflict initially was between two ethnic groups, but has now become a Muslim - Christian conflict. Friday several Christian churches and Muslim mosques were burned - I have heard reports of several persons being killed by gunfire into crowds.
On Saturday morning ( about 11a.m. our time) I spoke to Emile Sam-Peal, Lincoln Brownell and Napoleon Brathwaite. Each of them told me that they were OK, and that things were somewhat calmer. The government had imposed a curfew, and after some delay, the UN Peacekeepers had become involved and that about 100 persons had been arrested.
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While the news I was able to get this morning gave some indication that this could be a small incident and would be easily controlled... this evening at about 7 pm, (11 pm in Liberia) I received a call from Napoleon Brathwaite. He said that things had deteriorated again - that the Muslim groups were threatening to burn Christian churches "because we couldn't worship on Friday at our Mosques - you will not be able to worship in your churches". Napoleon said that the area near Peaceful Baptist church (the church he pastors) was affected and that several homes had been burned - He did not believe that the church had been damaged. Tonight he said they were targeting the area where he and his family live. Napoleon told me that the men of the community were gathering, with what ever they had (knives, sticks etc) to defend their area. They had made calls to ask for UN Peace keeper help but at the time he called, there had been no response.
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10-31-04 a.m.
Good morning
I spoke to Rev. Napoleon Brathwaite at 5:10 a.m this morning (10:10 a.m. their time). He said that the night had been quiet. Shortly after he called me last evening, the UN people - or some police persons, had come to the area where he lives and told the people that they would keep things quiet. Napoleon said the neighborhood was still not feeling secure, so most of them stayed up all night.
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I do know of one children's home (the John Mark Carpenter Children's Rescue and School) who lost all of their supply of rice for the children during the early stages of this current uprising.
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
There is great news for fugitive Naif Lafi Al-Mutairi wanted by police for numerous assaults against family, friends and others. The news is: For as long as you remain inside your house with a gun, the police won't come after you. Your police complaint file is sitting in a box, under a bed in an unused room at the Al-Safa District police station gathering dust. For all intents and purposes you have been forgotten by the police. In the unlikely event that they come knocking on your door, just stay inside, don't answer the door, and soon enough the police will be gone. You can continue to abuse your family and do all the drugs you want, and no one but those you are harming will ever care.
Rania Al-Baz's husband is refusing to divorce her except through the court, which could take years. "He has completely refused to settle the case out of court and insists that he wants her back for the sake of the children," said Dr. Omar Al-Khouli, lawyer of Rania, the former television broadcaster. The first hearing of the divorce case took place last week, but because the judge did not show up and neither did her husband Muhammad Al-Fallata, the hearing was rescheduled for December. "A case might be delayed for years because of the judge. In the case of Rania, a divorce sentence might be reached after two to five years because of the judge being absent and him trying to conciliate between the disputing parties," Al-Khouli told Arab News.
We immediately fell for each other. I loved how John's normally grim visage-furrowed deep from grappling with the vexing issue of bike-path tolls: pro or con, or both? — lit up like a Pittsburgh dawn when I bought him the Tahoe house for our special one-month going-out anniversary! "By the Sacred Skull of Mithra!, as we used to say in Bones, you're just the kind of woman I've been looking for," he cried. Reader, I melted. Being a woman of experience whose veins pump with spicy Mozambican-Portuguese blood, I can tell you candidly that his kisses became ever more enflamed with passion as we jetted to Fox Chapel aboard Ketchup 57, my second-largest Gulfstream. "By the Knight of Euloga, this would make a great campaign plane," he murmured, enigmatically. I even adored his nickname for me-"honey-bunny"-though Andre says he once overheard John tell Ted I was his "money-honey," whatever that is.
