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Arabia
Muslim-Christian meet ends with dispute over inviting Jews
A Vatican-led conference on dialogue with Muslims ended in the Arab state of Qatar on Sunday after bickering over whether to allow Jews to participate in future meetings because of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The Emir of the Gulf state had opened the seminar by telling senior Muslim and Christian religious leaders that Jews should also take part. "Perhaps it would be worthwhile widening next year’s seminar to an Islamic-Christian-Jewish dialogue," Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani said in a speech delivered on his behalf on Thursday. "That is the way to build a decent human life where love, tolerance and equality prevail for the good of mankind."

But Arab clerics told a public forum late on Saturday, that Israel must end its occupation of Palestinian land first. "Can there be a dialogue with Jews while they still occupy Palestinian land? Would that not consecrate the occupation?" asked Sheikh Abdel-Karim al-Kahlout, the Mufti of Gaza. A Syrian representative of the Greek Orthodox Church agreed. "We at the Patriarchy of Antioch reject the principle of dialogue with Jews before all the inhabitants of Palestine regain their rights," Bishop Basilious Nassour said.

The head of Vatican’s Pontifical Council for Inter-religious Dialogue, organizing the meeting which is held in Qatar every year, said the decision would be in Qatar’s hands. "It is better to try to talk together than not to talk at all, but I would agree that there are certain conditions for a dialogue to take place," Archbishop Michael Fitzgerald said, adding that the Vatican sponsors a separate dialogue with Jews.

Though Qatar has no diplomatic relations with Israel, it has angered Arab countries by maintaining contacts with the Jewish state throughout the Palestinian uprising against Israel’s 37-year occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The interfaith meeting in Qatar - mostly held behind closed doors and which did not issue a public statement - focused on the rights of religious minorities in predominantly Muslim and Christian countries, Fitzgerald said.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 05/30/2004 11:05:13 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Emir sounds like a rational guy. The clerics, unsurprisingly, haven't finished flogging the "Occupation of Paleostine" dead horse
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  focused on the rights of religious minorities in predominantly Muslim and Christian countries So the rights of religious minorities in predominantly Jewish countries is not an issue. Interesting!
Posted by: Phil B || 05/30/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
First Brazilian Troops Arrive in Haiti
PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (AP) - Forty-two Brazilian soldiers flew into Haiti on Saturday, the vanguard of a force to command a new U.N. peacekeeping mission taking over from the U.S.-led multinational force. "Our first mission here is providing security and then we will add to that political, economic and social stability," Lt. Col. Antonio Carlos Faillace said after arriving Saturday.

A ceremonial handover is planned June 1, though the transition will continue through the month. Some 1,500 U.S. Marines and 400 U.S. soldiers and sailors are to leave by the end of June. The U.S. troops are bringing aid to thousands of people left homeless by floods and landslides in the last week, but their main mission is disarming militias after the Feb. 29 resignation of President Jean-Bertrand Aristide.

Arriving Tuesday will be Brazilian generals Augusto Heleno, who will command the U.N. force, and Americo Salvador de Oliveira, who will be in charge of the Brazilian contingent, Faillace said. Brazil's 850 soldiers will provide the core of the U.N.-mandated force of 6,700 troops and 1,622 police. Chile has already committed 650 troops and Argentina plans to send up to 600. Another 10 countries are sending troops and 22 countries are sending civilian police. The U.N. mission is expected to last six months, but Brazilian defense ministry officials acknowledge troops may need to remain longer.
Posted by: Steve White || 05/30/2004 12:00:00 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  1,500 Marines and 400 Soldiers? We need to send these guys over to Iraq to help shore up their 'buddies', in a more valiant stand. Screw haiti; let the Spaniards handle the small fry!!
Posted by: smn || 05/30/2004 1:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Spaniards?
Posted by: Shipman || 05/30/2004 14:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Methinks the South American nations involved, especially the Brazilians, would be quite perturbed being referred to as "Spaniards".

Posted by: Pappy || 05/30/2004 22:49 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Drunken police raid US students
A group of drunken off-duty police officers forced American students to kneel on the ground at their Fremantle dormitory while taunting and humiliating them about the United States involvement in Iraq. The incident is one of several being investigated by police internal affairs after a wild night in two of the port city’s popular night spots involving seven WA police and two NSW officers. Some of the worst behaviour was inflicted on patrons at the Orient Hotel, where one of the officers vomited across the bar after the drunken group was refused service. Witnesses said a German barman was abused and insulted with nazi salutes. Earlier, the men told drinkers they were "above the law" because they were police.

The West Australian was told some drinkers at the Orient Hotel last Tuesday were Notre Dame University students but the abuse of the US students erupted after a fight at the Zanzibar nightclub. During that incident, one of the seven WA officers, who are all from the Fremantle district, was allegedly assaulted by one of the American Notre Dame students and had a tooth knocked out. Enraged, some of the drunken officers tracked the American down to the university’s student accommodation. It was there that several American students, including some who had nothing to do with the clash at the Zanzibar, were made to kneel on the ground and were humiliated. It is understood the taunting included comments such as "Yankies go home", "What are you doing in our country" and "What are you doing in Iraq". Frightened students called the police...

Police Minister Michelle Roberts said she was appalled by what she had been told about the incident. "I wouldn't have thought that any police officers would engage in this kind of behaviour, on duty or off duty," she said. "The fact of the matter is that police officers . . . need to set an example to the community." Assistant Commissioner Tim Atherton said the public had high expectations of police and he had instructed a superintendent and an inspector to investigate the matter. Mr Atherton pledged to get to the bottom of any misconduct by police. "The Commissioner and I share a great deal of frustration about this incident," he said.
Posted by: tipper || 05/30/2004 4:53:42 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Much less to this story than Drudge implied. The Iraq comment seems about the worst the sodden bugger could come up with. I was more impressed with vomiting across the bar after being refused service. Shame on the Notre Dame guy. No points for punching out a fellow drunk.
Posted by: RWV || 05/30/2004 8:44 Comments || Top||

#2  I agree! If the olympics had an 'abusive drunk' gold medal then the Brits and Australians would have it sown up.
Posted by: Phil B || 05/30/2004 9:29 Comments || Top||

#3  As an American, the students got what they deserved. Had they been in China, a cane acroos the mouth would have been appropriate. I am ashamed to be an American in light of this behavior. I apologize to everyone who has been disrespected by American citizens in thewir own homeland. Truly a disgrace.
Posted by: Anonymous5053 || 05/30/2004 9:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Dhimmi5053,

Dumbass Aussi cop lost a barfight. Instead of gracefully accepting it, a group of Australia's lowest decided to track down this student and show the world there this nothing more courageous than a pack of drunken Aussi cops against a abusing, under the color of law, a visitor their fair land. Doesn't say much for their manhood or intelligence. Proper Aussis are appalled by their behavior.

In the old days, if Chinese did something like this, a gun boat would have stopped by to put a boot up their ass. So sod off you shameful, politicall correct, gonad challenged, sperm recepticle.
Posted by: ed || 05/30/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Anon5053 - I'm ashamed you're an american too.
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 10:46 Comments || Top||

#6  That's:
Instead of gracefully accepting it, a group of Australia's lowest decided to track down this student and show the world there this nothing more courageous than a pack of drunken Aussi cops against a lone student, abusing, under the color of law, a visitor their fair land.
Posted by: ed || 05/30/2004 10:56 Comments || Top||

#7  Just to be consistent, I expect the SMH to call for John Howard to apologize to Tony Blair for this behavior, and publish endless articles bemoaning the fact that Australian police are every bit as corrupt as the Laotian police.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 05/30/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#8  unbelievable...can you imagine if police in America did this to Middle Eastern college students?!
We would be called Nazi's for sure.
Secret police and all that jazz.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 05/30/2004 18:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Anonymous5053 -

What in the hell are you talking about...
Your pathetic, go put your crayons away and let the adults talk here and quit eating those stupid pills. What a dolt.
Posted by: Long Hair Republican || 05/31/2004 0:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Well, I am good friends with one of the guys who was involved in the incident and yes the Iraq comment did happen, and my buddy said it was the scariest thing in his life. He was forced on his knees with a gun to his head and was told that if he moved he would get his brains blown out, and my buddy had nothing to do with the fight other than he was an American who knew the kid who got into the fight. One kid got into a drunken fight with an off duty cop and 6 or 7 others who had nothing to do with the fight got their lives threatened. You say they got what they deserved? I strongly disagree.
Posted by: Anonymous5485 || 06/30/2004 23:47 Comments || Top||


Europe
News Flash - Hans Blix Endorses JFK For President
Surprise meter’s still busted...
Hans Blix has never made a secret of his opposition to the war in Iraq, but recently the former chief U.N. weapons inspector and Swedish diplomat has dropped all pretense of, well, diplomacy. His frequent public statements are confirming that the Bush Administration was right to suspect that he was so opposed to the war that he’d have given Saddam Hussein the benefit of every doubt and more in order to prevent it. Mr. Blix told a Danish newspaper last month that Iraqis have suffered more from the war than they did under the reign of Saddam Hussein. In a recent interview with a French newspaper, he said President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair "may have been sincerely convinced there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq like some were convinced of the existence of witches in the 18th century." In a speech in Chicago in March, he said the war in Iraq has only made the threat of terrorism worse. And he recently dismissed as no big deal the explosion in Iraq of a roadside bomb containing sarin gas.
No big deal, because there are no stockpiles, right?
Then on Tuesday a friend sent us the following excerpt from an interview published Monday in the Italian newspaper La Stampa:
Q: "Are you tracking the U.S. Presidential campaign?"
Mr. Blix: "Obviously." "I place my trust in the multilateralism of Democratic candidate John Kerry. And in any event, I think that the whole world should vote on 2 November because so much depends on the outcome of that vote."
Can I vote on how much duct tape should be wrapped around your mouth?
Mr. Kerry remarked in March that foreign leaders were privately supporting his candidacy. Mr. Blix has now revealed the kind of foreigners he was referring to.
The ignorant, terrorist enabling type.
Posted by: Raj || 05/30/2004 1:30:55 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mr. Blix told a Danish newspaper last month that Iraqis have suffered more from the war than they did under the reign of Saddam Hussein.
wtf?
And he recently dismissed as no big deal the explosion in Iraq of a roadside bomb containing sarin gas.
WTF?!!
in any event, I think that the whole world should vote on 2 November because so much depends on the outcome of that vote.
WTF?!!!!

Mr. Blix: "I place my trust in the multilateralism of Democratic candidate John Kerry.
I'm laughing out loud at the sudden visual of that quote as a endorsement and a slogan on millions of Democratic convention campaign buttons. Someone please ask the good mr. Blix what he thought of how President Kennedy faced off against the soviets during the missile crisis.

But I guess we have to give mr. blix the benefit of the doubt. After all, he does come from a country with one of the higher suicide rates in the world. This is just another creative way for the West to commit suicide.

Please , please please! If there's a debate of some sort between Kerry and President Bush. Please let Kerry bring up the name of John Kennedy. I am dying to see someone, anyone say to him in a public forum, "Mr. Kerry, you are no Jack Kennedy".
Posted by: Dripping Sarcasm || 05/30/2004 14:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Hans Blix, a man who will go down in history as a euphamism, as in "You Blixed that one up!", "Man, you really stepped on your Blix!", or "What a Blix-head!"
Posted by: Anonymoose || 05/30/2004 14:26 Comments || Top||

#3  And in any event, I think that the whole world should vote on 2 November because so much depends on the outcome of that vote."

I thought this was an America election not one for the whole world! Better start having poll watchers out there for votes from noncitizens. Even more so than before. Blix has just announced that the whole world can vote for US president!
Posted by: AF Lady || 05/30/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Hans Blix: The only liberal idiot political moron ignoramus weapons inspector to bring his own dark glasses and cane to Iraq.
Posted by: The Doctor || 05/30/2004 18:14 Comments || Top||

#5  Guess what, fat boy? You don't get a vote.
Posted by: Mercutio || 05/30/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#6  And in any event, I think that the whole world should vote on 2 November because so much depends on the outcome of that vote.


A bit rich coming from an employee of an unelected and unaccountable organization (the UN).
Posted by: Phil B || 05/30/2004 19:39 Comments || Top||

#7  Hans, would probably want Saddam on the ballot, too.
Posted by: Matt || 05/30/2004 20:31 Comments || Top||

#8  It's time for someone to accidently kill that son-of-a-bitch.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 05/30/2004 22:26 Comments || Top||

#9  Notice that no one in the press every cites John FORBES Kerry's middle name? It's not like he comes from some special Northeastern power elite or whatever you want to call it.
Posted by: MrGrumpyDrawers || 05/31/2004 1:41 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Stephen den Beste on News Bias (Analysis)
Posted by: .com || 05/30/2004 06:56 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Money quote:
All of us just have to get used to it, and to remember that much of what we're being told is either false or is distorted. ... We citizens have to start thinking of news reporting as being about as reliable as advertising.
I'd say less reliable; it's possible to sue - or for the government to file charges - for false advertising.

The days of Murrow and Cronkite are gone.
One quibble: The "days of" Cronkite were themselves a lie, if his present behavior and verbal spewings are any indication. He put on a good show back then, though. I remember a little of Murrow, too, and I think he was genuine.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/30/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#2  All of us just have to get used to it, and to remember that much of what we're being told is either false or is distorted

Pretty damn cynical, if you ask me. Den beste can get used to it, but I never will.

And Den Beste's military analysis in the past has been about on target as a one-eyed Sadr militia sniper shooting a rusted BB gun. I suspect this media analysis is about as cogent as his military analyses.

I think media should strive for a higher standard or get the hell out of journalism, and I think the internet is one vehicle to force them to change their ways.

I just can't allow folks who carry around a mantle of truth and societal leadership to abdicate everything becuase of their own political agenda.
Posted by: badanov || 05/30/2004 11:15 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
P.J. O'Rourke: the world's mad at us? Maybe we should just say goodbye
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 19:59 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  alternate title: America, Recuse Thyself!
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 20:00 Comments || Top||

#2  It really would be fun to see the response if President Bush appeared before the UN and announced unilateral American military disarmament. He could take it back thirty minutes later ("Just kidding-- we're actually adding 8 divisions"), but in the meantime the increased demand for smelling salts, defibrillators, and other supplies would have jump-started the world economy.
Posted by: Matt || 05/30/2004 20:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Not PJ's best work, and it is already happening. The states that work will separate themselves from the ones that don't despite the whining of the Tranzis. And we will get over $200 a barrel oil.
Posted by: Phil B || 05/30/2004 20:29 Comments || Top||

#4  What if we planned it out better..
Suspend all regulations regarding the environment so we can drill for oil off the coast of Cali and in Alaska. Suspend all those stupid environmental Laws concerning refinery's. We have enough oil here in the USA to last us 20 years at our current rate of consumption. Confiscate the Mexican oil supply's on the general purposes of supporting 1/3 of their nation population. Bingo!! Plenty of crude...
Posted by: Long Hair Republican || 05/31/2004 0:05 Comments || Top||

#5  That's a hoax. It's Pat Buchannan's platform from 2000.
Posted by: Mr. Davis || 05/31/2004 1:10 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
'Smart bullet' reports back wirelessly
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 17:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cool.

I'm surprised the Arabs didn't invent this. (NOT)
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/30/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#2  I should hat tip to Drudge for this
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 17:30 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
Update: Woman Punished for Lack of Headscarf
This is an update to an earlier post: Sudan Punishes Christian Woman For Not Wearing Headscarf. I received this article via an email newsletter, so I don’t have a link to the actual article.

An April 28th news release from Compass Direct reports that a young Christian woman in Khartoum was beaten and fined for not wearing appropriate head covering. Cecilia John Holland was traveling on a bus on the evening of April 13th, when 10 policemen stopped the bus and arrested her. The next day she was taken to an Islamic court where she was not allowed to speak in her defense. She was sentenced to 40 lashes and fined the equivalent of $75 US.
Posted by: Kathy L || 05/30/2004 10:58:48 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These poor women, how brave they are to show they are Christians where they live.
If you want to see real love, just look at Christian women in Muslim lands who hold to Christ. That's love.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 05/30/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Septuagenarian Lothario nabbed
HYDERABAD - A court in Hyderabad yesterday remanded a Gulf citizen, 72-year-old Mohammed Jaffar Yakhub Al Jourani, to judicial custody for two weeks. The city police arrested him earlier this week on the charges of committing a fraud by marrying three women in three weeks by concealing facts.
Posted by: Fred || 05/30/2004 11:43:20 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  this old man should be properly punished the way muslims punish females for adultry
Posted by: Anonymous5061 || 05/30/2004 12:29 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi Intellectuals Outline a New Cultural Policy for Iraq
The respect of cultural diversity, promotion of creativity and participation of all in the cultural life, the protection of cultural heritage are the three pillars of an Appeal launched Friday by the participants in the First Cultural Forum for Iraq, organised by UNESCO. The Forum, held in presence of the Iraqi Minister for Culture, Moufid Al Jazairi, was attended by intellectuals and artists from Iraq and the Iraqi diaspora, and was convened to lay the ground for a new cultural policy in the country.

Their appeal identifies a series of priority actions. On respect for cultural diversity, it recommends that "religious, linguistic and cultural rights" of all of the constituent groups of Iraqi society, along with freedom of expression and academic freedom, be guaranteed by the Constitution. It also proposes diverse measures to promote creativity and the participation of all in the cultural life.

On the issue of safeguarding cultural heritage, it recommends the establishment of an inventory of architectural and urban heritage, opening the way for a debate on the future of monuments built by the former regime, and the implementation of the objectives proposed earlier this week at the first session of the International Co-ordination Committee for the Safeguarding of Iraq’s Cultural Heritage (ICC). The Appeal, it is hoped, will form the basis of discussions at a more comprehensive meeting of Iraqi intellectuals, which could take place in Baghdad later this year, security conditions permitting.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 05/30/2004 11:51:17 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls TROLL || 05/30/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Mike S. suppresses another on-topic comment. Frum, Perle, Farah, Cal Thomas, and others have said it: Bush can't win this election. Move ahead and support the hard-line.
Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls || 05/30/2004 19:15 Comments || Top||

#3  persistent lil guy troll, aren't you?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 19:45 Comments || Top||

#4  I guess positive news coming from Iraq makes DBTroll really upset.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 05/30/2004 22:47 Comments || Top||

#5 
Mike S. suppresses another on-topic comment.

DBT, I'm an ordinary Rantburger just like you. I have no more power to delete someone's comments than you do.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 05/30/2004 23:42 Comments || Top||

#6  They do not have a hope in hell of achieving cultural freedom. When Bush forced armistice surrenders, stealing victory from the Northern Alliance, he legitimated the remnants of Taliban/al-Qaeda. Shariah was restored to the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan, 2 months after the enemy was defeated.

George Slave Bush will not make alliances with Seculars in Islamania, because his Saudi owners wouldn't like it. He is not exactly happy about Secularism anywhere. Ask Howard Stern, and the rest of the American media personalities that he is oppressing. You people need to get out of the snake-oil consumption market, and pressure the dead duck Prez to liquidate Iraqi Islamofascists. He danced with the devil in Fallujah and Najaf. Future generations will not treat his "faith based" capitulations kindly.

Posted by: Dog Bites Trolls || 05/30/2004 12:59 Comments || Top||


Steyn: This is one armchair warmonger still fighting
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 11:12 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Classic Steyn:

Okay, a freaky West Virginia tramp leading a naked Iraqi round on a dog leash with a pair of Victoria's Secret panties on his head and a banana up his butt, maybe that wasn't so inevitable. But, that innovation aside, the aberrations of war have nothing to do with the only question that matters: despite what will happen along the way, is it worth doing

Priceless!
Posted by: badanov || 05/30/2004 11:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
WWII vets going to DC for memorial dedication show some things never change
A caravan of five buses loaded with 270 World War II veterans were set to leave Turtle Creek Casino on M-72 about 5 a.m. today [5/28/2004] and head for Washington. The group is believed to be the largest contingent of veterans attending from one location... Veteran Paul Mills, 82, of Traverse City “The people we were fighting against were trying to control the world,”...William Turner, 84, of Traverse City...said he feels sorry for American soldiers serving now in Iraq, learning first-hand of the horrors of war he experienced so long ago. “I wake up on a really hot night and I can still smell the flesh and hair burning,” he said...Frank Tosiello, 85, an Elmwood Township veteran said he hopes the memorial stands as a legacy to “the devastation that war can produce - to remember that war is not the best solution to problems.”
Steely determination or mush, take your pick.

Posted by: Tresho || 05/30/2004 3:14:03 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
war is not the best solution to problems
I'll cut him a lot of slack because he's 85 years old and presumably a WWII veteran, but that's a bunch of bullshit.

If the choice is between war and the destruction of our way of life and the murder of thousands of our citizens, guess which is the best solution.

YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/30/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#2  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Antiwar TROLL || 05/30/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#3  nice - the pig shows for Memorial Day weekend - the least you could do is avoid spewing your inane drivel on a Holiday weekend dedicated to the sacrifices others have made so you could be as stupid as you want. Shut the fuck up pacifist pig and thank your betters for the losses they incurred. As an Islam-loving bitch one would think you'd remember your place - get in a burqa and back in the corner
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 12:25 Comments || Top||

#4  excuse my language, Master Fred, but I'm in no mood for Antibrain or Gentle today
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 12:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Be careful there, annie whore, moral equivalence has been shown to cause supperstition in a sampling of useful idiots in survey over the last 70 years. It can also lead to other equally bad maladies; such as leprosy, incontinence, dry rot, dry mouth, syphllis, halitosis, verbaria. So just stay you and your filthy adled brain on your side of the Atlantic.

there is a war on. We will bring this war to our enemies, because it is they who brought this war. And
Posted by: War is what they got || 05/30/2004 12:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Frank, there is nothing you can say to Antile. She thrives on the attention and today probably isn't an appropriate day for a thread war.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 05/30/2004 13:30 Comments || Top||

#7  ... the least you could do is avoid spewing your inane drivel on a Holiday weekend dedicated to the sacrifices others have made so you could be as stupid as you want.

We may disagree elsewhere, Frank G, but not this time. Antiwar, the only reason you're not speaking German or Japanese is because almost HALF A MILLION American troops died to protect your freedom. If you are inable to couple your exercising of free speech with even a shred of gratitude or respect for those who sacrificed their all in your name, then the sum total that you represent is a walking slap-in-the-face to every living (and dead) WWII veteran. For shame.
Posted by: Zenster || 05/30/2004 14:59 Comments || Top||

#8  "Anti"-war: Go screw a goat. It's what you're best at.

The adults will take care of the real business in the real world.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 05/30/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#9  Antiwar: As a good friend of mine would say, "Go blow a dead bear".
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 05/30/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm not one for insulting other posters, but if there was 1/10th the civility of Gentle and 1/100th the intelligence of Aris, Antiwar might be tolerable as an 'opposing view'. In the months Antiwar has posted here, 'she' has proved to be neither.

Fred, maybe it might learn something during a 30 day imposed-hiatus?
Posted by: Pappy || 05/30/2004 23:10 Comments || Top||

#11  Yes Barbara you cannot negotiate with GWB(a terrorist)
Posted by: Antiwar || 05/30/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||


Attack Puppy Brock Lies about Conservative Media
Now, Brock has written a letter to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld asking that the Pentagon remove Limbaugh’s program from the American Forces Radio and Television Service, formerly known as Armed Forces Radio. Arguing that Limbaugh has condoned the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, Brock wrote, "It is abhorrent that the American taxpayer is paying to broadcast what is in effect pro-torture propaganda to American troops." Brock asked Rumsfeld to consider removing the Limbaugh program to "protect" American troops from Limbaugh’s "reckless and dangerous messages." Brock also expressed concern that Limbaugh "continually uses prejudiced rhetoric that divides rather than unites Americans."
Unlike messages of ’quagmire’, ’exit strategy’ and other defeatist concepts the left is so good at.
Brock based his letter in large part on a story that appeared Wednesday in the anti-Bush online magazine Salon. That article, "Rush’s Forced Conscripts," in turn relied on Brock and other critics, like Limbaugh competitor Al Franken of the new liberal talk-radio network Air America, to accuse American Forces Radio of a "rightward tilt" and of airing a generous portion of Limbaugh while not allowing liberal voices to be heard. Limbaugh, according to Franken, provides "a bad message for troops to be hearing."
Brock’s got it in for Limbaugh, no question. To my mind, that affects his group’s whole basis. Conservative media watchdog my ass. They are an anti-Rush outfit. Just admit it, will ya?
Salon editor David Talbot followed up, in "Turn Off Rush, Turn On Salon," by denouncing military broadcasters who, he said, give soldiers "a daily dose of poison from Rush Limbaugh." Talbot wrote that American Forces Radio "bombard[s]" military men and women with "Limbaugh’s incendiary tirades, to the exclusion of all other voices."
Incredible. Does Talbot think that anyone will buy into this concept that the mere appearance of Limbaugh on the radio constitutes ’exclusion of all other voices.’ To me, that remark alone is basic intellectual dishonesty on Talbot’s part.
"Rush’s Forced Conscripts" discounted the argument of American Forces Radio chief Melvin Russell, who told Salon that his service included Limbaugh on the basis of Limbaugh’s popularity, and that American Forces also provides programming from National Public Radio. That’s not the same thing, Franken explained: "Rush’s message is that liberals hate America, while NPR is straight-ahead reporting and journalism."
Liberals do hate America. They have allowed their hatred of Bush to manuever themselves into political positions that any bad news for America is good news for them. NPR leans so heavily to the left, it is surprising they don’t capsize from it.
But American Forces Radio provides not only NPR programs like Morning Edition and All Things Considered but NPR commentary, as well. American military men and women abroad have access, for example, to the talk show of liberal host Diane Rehm. Indeed, Rehm’s biographical sketch on the NPR website says her program is "heard on U.S. military instillations around the world via Armed Forces Radio." (For a schedule of NPR programs provided to American Forces Radio, click here.)

Military listeners can also hear NPR’s Tavis Smiley Show, Talk of the Nation, and Fresh Air programs. Beyond NPR, listeners can also hear brief commentaries by former talk-show host Jim Hightower and CBS News anchorman Dan Rather. Viewed as a whole, the list of names suggests that military listeners, if they want to hear a variety of views, can do so on American Forces Radio.
Posted by: badanov || 05/30/2004 7:47:20 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When Rush made AFRTS overseas, he was like a breath of fresh air.
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 05/30/2004 10:24 Comments || Top||

#2  well Brock's gay - he shouldn't ask and they won't tell. He is indeed doing his new master's bidding, isn't he?
Posted by: Frank G || 05/30/2004 11:00 Comments || Top||

#3  The bottom line is they want Air Amerika on AFRTS. That's NOT going to happen under Rumsfield.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 05/30/2004 11:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Does anyone remember the Tom Joyner "I Hate Whitey Show" back in the pre-Rush days? Now that was truly disturbing.

Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 05/30/2004 13:11 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Long Article in "New Yorker" About Ahmad Chalabi's Political Career
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 05/30/2004 03:22 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sure you did Yassir .....please give the world a break.

The only truth Yassir will understand is when the Israelis wack him off the face of the earth.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 05/30/2004 22:42 Comments || Top||



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