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-Lurid Crime Tales-
3 Marines Tackle, Subdue Threatening Passenger on Long-Haul Flight
[Mil.com] Three Marines who sprang into action to restrain a hostile and disruptive fellow passenger are now being recognized by their unit commanding officer for their bravery and quick thinking.

The incident happened Monday on a flight from Tokyo to Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport in Texas. The three North Carolina-based Marines, all assigned to 1st Battalion, 6th Marine Regiment, were Capt. Daniel Kult, Sgt. John Dietrick and Pfc. Alexander Meinhardt. They had been traveling back to the U.S. for various reasons, about halfway through a six-month Unit Deployment Program pump in Okinawa.

During the flight, according to a Marine Corps news release, a passenger barricaded himself inside one of the plane's bathrooms and loudly began to make what officials described as threatening comments.

"While watching a movie during my flight from Japan to Texas, I started to hear screaming coming from the restroom on board," Dietrick, an infantry assault section leader from Mechanicsville, Virginia, said in a statement. "When I took off my headphones, I heard a man sounding very distraught and screaming from the bathroom."

The Marines then moved quickly, according to the release. While a flight attendant got the door unlocked, the three men grabbed the passenger and used flex ties to bind him. They took him back to a seat and stayed with him to make sure he remained restrained for the rest of the flight.

"I knew I had to step in when he became a danger to others and himself," said Meinhardt, a mortarman from Sparta, Wisconsin. "I didn't think twice about helping restrain him through the rest of the flight."
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 06:53 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  1/6 - Grunts - all of them. When you care to send the very best. Dude picked the wrong time to get froggy.
Posted by: Bangkok Billy || 05/06/2020 7:57 Comments || Top||

#2  One could have handled this POS, but there would have been no team effort.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 7:59 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm just relieved they're not being dismissed and charged with 'restoring the peace'.
Posted by: Dron66046 || 05/06/2020 9:23 Comments || Top||

#4  passenger locked himself in the restroom and began making "threatening comments."

Like what? Allan fuknar?

via Gfycat

>

While there's no video footage, here's how we imagine the incident played out:
Posted by: Woodrow || 05/06/2020 10:17 Comments || Top||

#5  ^ LOL

By the way, where did they get the flex ties? Did they happen to have the flex ties with them, or did the airline charge them $75 per tie?
Posted by: Matt || 05/06/2020 12:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Dude is lucky he's not in intensive care with multiple broken limbs, etc.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 05/06/2020 13:19 Comments || Top||

#7 
By the way, where did they get the flex ties?


The airlines keeps these onboard most flights, but especially international flights.
Posted by: Phineter Turkeyneck6202 || 05/06/2020 13:27 Comments || Top||


Florida homeowner shoots and kills 17-year-old who was 'attempting to break into his car' in possible stand your ground case
[MAIL] A Florida man shot and killed a 17-year-old burglary suspect in what authorities say will likely be investigated under the state's 'stand your ground' statute.

Adrein Green was found collapsed in the street with a gunshot wound at around 1.15am on Tuesday, minutes after a man called 911 and said he'd shot someone outside his home in Sanford.

Investigators said Green was burglarizing cars parked outside the gated home when the owner, who has not been identified, opened fire from his front door.

In audio from the 911 call, the homeowner is heard explaining how his wife woke him up when she heard noises outside while she was up feeding their baby.

He said that he believed someone was trying to break in to the home, so he grabbed his firearm and went to investigate.

'Are there any weapons,' the dispatcher asked.

'Yes. I just fired a shot, he came by. Help me out, please help,' the caller said.

Asked whether the teen was armed, the caller said he wasn't sure.

'I don't know he just ran, he just ran, he faced me and I got super scared and my wife was behind me with the baby cause we kept hearing like a big bump, we kept hearing something,' he said, later adding he wanted to scare the unknown person off.
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 02:44 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ....he said, he wanted to scare the unknown person off.

"Off the planet"... mission accomplished.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 4:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't know he just ran, he just ran, he faced me and I got super scared and my wife was behind me with the baby

If a bit of theater can keep the liberal werewolves away, it's good.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 4:18 Comments || Top||

#3  "He was turning his life around. Wanted to go to college and be a rapper"
Posted by: Frank G || 05/06/2020 6:44 Comments || Top||

#4  ^Not an epidemiologist?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 6:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Feral Yout as expected
Posted by: Warthog || 05/06/2020 9:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Adrein Green

Isn't that an enzyme?
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 9:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Wichita KS social distancing:
Robberies, break ins down - drive bys up.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 11:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Not an epidemiologist?

It depends... will there be any math?
Posted by: SteveS || 05/06/2020 12:04 Comments || Top||

#9  (Eazy E) - (50 Cent) = Tek 9, solve for E
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 12:14 Comments || Top||

#10  "Dese be mah kids, Adrein, Collard and Soylent Green..."
Posted by: M. Murcek || 05/06/2020 12:21 Comments || Top||

#11  ^ Heh
Posted by: Frank G || 05/06/2020 12:29 Comments || Top||

#12  ... my wife and baby behind me. Words that will make all the difference to a grand jury.
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 05/06/2020 12:45 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Thousands of homeless people are ejected from New York subway
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] ...as it closes for the first time in 115 years so workers can perform a deep clean after vagrants flooded network during lockdown
  • Cleaners in hazmat suits were seen completing mass disinfections along the subway's labyrinth of train lines

  • The network's 472 stations are being closed between 1am and 5am every morning for the foreseeable future

  • The subway system has seen a surge in the homeless seeking refuge in trains overnight, instead of shelters

  • They will now be removed by police come 1am to allow workers to complete deep cleaning on the subway

  • Nearly 100 subway workers have been killed by the outbreak and thousands more sickened

  • Housing experts warned the new rules could push vulnerable homeless people 'further into the shadows'

  • The New York Police Department has deployed more than 1,000 officers to ensure rules are being followed

  • Alternative travel is being provided for essential workers commuting early in the morning
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 12:56:17 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You'd think it was their home where they lived for 40 years.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 16:16 Comments || Top||


SCOTUS Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Hospitalized with Infection
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/06/2020 09:14 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doctors seeking cause of liberal virus!
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 9:53 Comments || Top||

#2  She should have her own parking spot at this point.
Posted by: Iblis || 05/06/2020 10:07 Comments || Top||

#3  I hope they give her hydroxltchloroquine, and it hope it saves her life.
Posted by: Iblis || 05/06/2020 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Why do the rest of us have to wait for urgent care?
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 10:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Strange...where'd my last post go?
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 10:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Perhaps at the duplicate story?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/06/2020 11:18 Comments || Top||

#7  Moved to Short Attention Span, next to the other article on the subject.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 15:12 Comments || Top||

#8  Sorry TW, what were we talking about?

:p
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/06/2020 15:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Silly. I’ve done it, too — seeing something that I know our readers will want to know, and posting without checking the entire site, even though I know not everyone files things the way I do.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 21:55 Comments || Top||


Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg ‘Hospitalized With Infection,’ Supreme Court Says
[DailyWire] Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg was hospitalized on Tuesday with an infection that she reportedly sustained as the result of a gallbladder condition.
and a software update
"Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg underwent non-surgical treatment for acute cholecystitis, a benign gallbladder condition, this afternoon at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland," the Supreme Court said in a statement. "Following oral arguments on Monday, the Justice underwent outpatient tests at Sibley Memorial Hospital in Washington, D.C., that confirmed she was suffering for a gallstone that had migrated to her cystic duct, blocking it and causing an infection."

The statement continued by stating that Ginsburg would remain in the hospital for "a day or two" and that further updates "will be provided as they become available."
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Get well soon, Ruthie, but please get the hell off of the Supreme Court!
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 0:24 Comments || Top||

#2  The pain and suffering that she has inflicted upon herself in the last years of her life comes with the lust of power that should have been set aside years ago. Let your 'living Constitution' go. The textual Constitution is your white whale.

From hell's heart, I stab at thee. For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.

Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/06/2020 7:19 Comments || Top||

#3  i can see the wires holding her head up in that photo
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 05/06/2020 8:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Technology has produced great strides in taxidermy over the past 25 years or so. That wandering right eye, so lifelike.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 8:15 Comments || Top||

#5  ^ Trigger alert
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 8:18 Comments || Top||

#6  My money is still on July, 2020 for her kicking the bucket.
Posted by: DarthVader || 05/06/2020 9:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Wait... aren't all non-coronavirus related medical procedures cancelled.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/06/2020 9:43 Comments || Top||

#8  ^ hokd thy tongue, peasant rogue!
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 9:50 Comments || Top||

#9  The infection is "LIBTURDISM". Afraid it cant be cured
Posted by: ranture || 05/06/2020 10:14 Comments || Top||

#10  Conspiracy theory of the day. This is the perfect time for her to expire/retire. Senate Dems will do everything in their power to delay a replacement. Meanwhile, it becomes an election issue and mobilizes the Democrat base. Worst case the R's keep the Senate and she is replaced, which would happen anyway. And anything can happen between now and then. Trump might lose. Dems might pick up a Senate seat or two. It's a Hail Mary, but it's what they've got.
Posted by: Iblis || 05/06/2020 12:20 Comments || Top||

#11  ...do something real stupid and instigate the next civil war? If they haven't paid much attention to their urban base these last few weeks, it's not a good action when you can only count on them for stuffing the ballot box not manning the line.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/06/2020 13:04 Comments || Top||

#12  Senate Dems will do everything in their power to delay a replacement.

They don’t have the power — it’s a Senate-only responsibility. President Trump has a list of replacements ready, and Senator Mitch McConnell runs the judge approval process like a well-oiled machine. There will be a great deal of screaming before, during, and after the fact, though, which should impact voter turnout in the blue states.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 14:12 Comments || Top||

#13  Do everything possible to keep this issue out of the mix before Nov. 3. Help the lady hang on another year.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 14:14 Comments || Top||

#14  TW - Under normal circumstances, sure. If you are willing to lie, cheat and steal - who knows? They managed to delay the Kavenaugh confirmation several weeks.
Posted by: Iblis || 05/06/2020 14:28 Comments || Top||

#15  Sounds painful. Hope she's better.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 20:32 Comments || Top||


South Carolina suicide by alligator
[FOXNEWS] A woman killed by an alligator at a South Carolina pond told a friend she wanted to get close to the animal and didn’t scream as it attacked her and dragged her into the water, according to a police report.

Cynthia Covert, 58, died in the attack Friday afternoon on Kiawah Island, Charleston County deputies said.

A deputy had to shoot and kill the alligator to get Covert away from the animal, according to the police report released Monday.

The woman Covert was staying with said she didn’t seem herself Friday and walked toward the alligator, which lunged and grabbed her in its mouth when she was about 4 feet away, deputies said.

Covert, of Johns Island, made no sound as the alligator pulled her under, the woman told police.

The woman’s husband and another man tried beating the alligator with shovels, but the animal swam deeper, the police report said.

When deputies arrived, the alligator kept surfacing with Covert and going under. One officer was able to shoot the animal as it surfaced again, police said.

Firefighters used poles to get Covert out of the pond but she died at the hospital, authorities said.
Posted by: Fred || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Very weird story.
Posted by: Alistaire Tingle9882 || 05/06/2020 6:53 Comments || Top||

#2  #1 Very weird story.
Posted by: Alistaire Tingle9882 2020-05-06 06:53


...You can say that again. We've actually heard a couple different stories down here in SC, and nobody is really talking about it yet.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 05/06/2020 15:03 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Mail on Line update: Odessa, TX lads 'take their guns to town'...get arrested
[MAIL] Texas police have arrested a bar owner and six armed men who were protesting lockdown orders issued amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Cops were called to Big Daddy Zane's Bar in West Odessa Monday evening after owner Gabrielle Ellison, 47, re-opened the establishment, violating laws put into place by Gov. Greg Abbott.

Upon arrival, cops were met by a group of men who said they were there to support and defend Ellison as she opened the premises back up. Six of the men were wearing armor and were armed with guns.

According to OA Online, the men belong to a group named Open Texas. Members travels around the state 'with weapons' and try to help businesses reopen their doors'.

Outside Ellison's bar on Monday, police became involved in a standoff with the armed protesters.

Dramatic photos taken outside the venue show local sheriff's pointing their weapons at the armed protesters as they order them to put their hands into the air.

Ellison was arrested and charged with Violations of Emergency Management Plan Class B. She was released on a $500 bond.

The six armed men were all taken into custody and charged with Places Weapons Prohibited. It is unlawful to carry any firearm in a bar in Texas, either openly or concealed. They are each being held on a $5,000 bond.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 03:43 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Classic example, 'wrong time -wrong place.'
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 4:08 Comments || Top||

#2  Odessa, TX lads 'take their guns to town'...get arrested

LOL
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 4:11 Comments || Top||


Texas cops in tense standoff with six heavily armed men who were protecting a bar owner as she reopened her business in defiance of the state's stay-at-home orders
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] Cops were called to Big Daddy Zane's Bar in West Odessa Monday evening after owner Gabrielle Ellison, 47, re-opened the establishment, violating laws put into place by Gov. Greg Abbott.

Upon arrival, cops were met by a group of men who said they were there to support and defend Ellison as she opened the premises back up. Six of the men were wearing armor and were armed with guns.

According to OA Online, the men belong to a group named Open Texas. Members travels around the state 'with weapons' and try to help businesses reopen their doors'.

Outside Ellison's bar on Monday, police became involved in a standoff with the armed protesters.
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 02:39 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As I mentioned to some friends a few weeks ago some people are going to get killed before this illegal shutdown is ended
Posted by: Alistaire Tingle9882 || 05/06/2020 6:51 Comments || Top||

#2  It's starting.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 8:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Unhappily the Mail omitted the action photos of the highly trained, flint eyed local SWAT team. That and the Gofundme page set up to get them a treadmill.
Posted by: Cesare || 05/06/2020 10:40 Comments || Top||

#4  Way to make things worse, guys.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 05/06/2020 12:17 Comments || Top||

#5  The cops need to smell the coffee. This crap is not going to be tolerated much longer. Next time it could be 20 heavily armed men properly deployed to do an enveloping maneuver. The cops are way outmanned and outgunned in this state. Best for them to stick investigating traffic accidents.
Posted by: Phineter Turkeyneck6202 || 05/06/2020 13:36 Comments || Top||

#6  Tinderbox. Our little dictator-gubernators really need to back off now.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 14:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Texas, local decision like in Blue Arm of Dallas vs. Hair Salon.

DM does a good job with ridiculous pics of the arrested, wait until you see The Burger King's Guard. I think that is a lift gate on their MRAP.

Stupid prizes all around.

Argument seems to be whether the protestors were on private property, silly but legal, or on bar property, where firearms are not allowed at all.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 15:31 Comments || Top||

#8  This is going to get out of hand, and bloody, very fast.

The governors need to back off before this becomes a replay of Bleeding Kansas
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 20:28 Comments || Top||

#9  These scum bag "Roland Freisler" judges in Texas and across the land are not helping.
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 21:04 Comments || Top||


Coronaplague round-up: UK passes Italy with highest virus death toll in Europe, White House to wind down task force
[PUBLISH.TWITTER]







Dining out post-lockdown: Restaurant staff will now be required to change gloves between each table, wash their face masks nightly, temperature check customers and ask diners to serve themselves when food arrives

EU emerges from lockdown as global virus cases top 3.6m
[The News (Pak)] Millions of Europeans emerged with relief from coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague)
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...
confinement on Monday, with hard-hit Italia leading the way out of the world´s longest lockdown.

At least 3.6 million people are now known to have been infected, but US President Donald Trump
...The tack in the backside of the Democratic Party...
offered hope for an end to the pandemic, saying he believed there would be a vaccine by year´s end. Around 251,000 people have died since the coronavirus emerged in China late last year and swept across the globe, given wings by the network of air routes that in normal times keep the modern world ticking. On Monday at least 3,000 perished due to the disease.

Lockdowns imposed on half of the planet have derailed economies, and politicians are now grappling with how to get the wheels turning again without sparking a second wave of infections. Italia second only to the United States in its Covid-19 corpse count and the first to impose a national lockdown was gingerly emerging into the spring sunshine on Monday, with construction sites and factories resuming work. Restaurants reopened for takeaway orders, but bars and ice cream parlours will remain shut. The use of public transport is being discouraged and everyone will have to wear masks in indoor public spaces.

The novel coronavirus has killed at least 247,503 people since the outbreak first emerged in China last December, according to a tally from official sources compiled by AFP at 1100 GMT on Monday. More than 3,521,600 cases were registered in 195 countries and territories. Of these, at least 1,073,568 are now considered recovered.

The tallies, using data collected by AFP from national authorities and information from the World Health Organization (WHO), probably reflect only a fraction of the actual number of infections. Many countries are testing only the most serious cases.

The United States has the highest number of total deaths with 67,682 out of 1,158,041 cases. At least 180,152 have been declared recovered. Italia has the second highest toll with 28,884 deaths out of 210,717 cases, followed by Britannia with 28,446 deaths from 186,599 cases, Spain 25,428 deaths and 218,011 cases and La Belle France with 24,895 deaths and 168,693 cases.

White House plans to wind down coronavirus task force in coming weeks: New York Times
[AlAhram] The White House plans to wind down its coronavirus task force in coming weeks, the New York Times reported on Tuesday, adding it is not clear whether another group might replace the task force headed by Vice President Mike Pence and made up of health and logistics officials.

Officials in President Donald Trump's administration are telling task force members and their staff to expect the group to wind down within weeks, according to the Times. Reuters did not immediately confirm the report.

The task force will finish up as the White House moves toward the first phase of Trump's plan to reopen the country after many states ordered people to stay at home in order to slow the spread of the potentially deadly coronavirus, the Times said, citing an anonymous official. The focus will now be on therapeutics, vaccines and other treatments.

Formed in March, the task force met frequently to address the rapidly spreading pandemic and then explained its work in nightly news briefings with Trump that often spanned more than an hour. The group's infectious disease expert, Anthony Fauci, became a household name across the country. While the briefings have stopped, Pence hosted a task-force meeting on Tuesday morning, according to the White House.

South Korea Returns Largely to Normal as Outbreak Controlled
[AnNahar] South Korea returned largely to normal Wednesday as workers went back to offices, and museums and libraries reopened under eased social distancing rules after new coronavirus cases dropped to a trickle.

The South endured one of the worst early outbreaks of the disease outside China and while it never imposed a compulsory lockdown, strict social distancing had been widely observed since March. But the South appears to have brought its outbreak under control thanks to an extensive "trace, test and treat" programme that has drawn widespread praise.

In a population of 51 million, its death toll is little more than 250, and new cases have slowed to just a handful -- 13 in the past three days, all of them arriving international passengers. More than 90 of the South's imported cases are returning citizens.

The South reported two new infections on Wednesday, taking the total to 10,806, the Korea Centers for Disease Control said.
Posted by: Fred || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  NHS is Shite.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 05/06/2020 5:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Neil Ferguson's available for hire.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 6:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Ferguson is a slimy louse of the nth degree.
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 7:10 Comments || Top||




#7  Virologist sleeps with woman in an "open marriage." Doing some field testing?
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 11:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Sure puts some chips on the "I'll take it seriously when they take it seriously" Venn Circle.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 16:19 Comments || Top||

#9  I'll buy the argument that it's one household. Not that it's a great idea for the kids. Sort of like parallel divorce, how 21st century.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 20:44 Comments || Top||


Economy
Harvard Faces $1.2 Billion Shortfall Due To COVID-19
[TaxProf]
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 08:53 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Harvard faces shortfall, will offer courses in plumbing, carpentry, electrical wiring and sheetmetal working."
Posted by: Matt || 05/06/2020 9:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe if we title it "Industrial Arts", it will be more palatable to the college glitterati and their snowflake spawn.
Posted by: Warthog || 05/06/2020 9:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Too many sources of the problem - reduced research grants, reimbursements to students, lower returns on the endowment - for Harvard not to make permanent structural changes to its revenue streams. This means Harvard College will likely become either
- same size as at present, with primarily in-person instruction as before -- but probably twice as expensive as now i.e. a 4-year undergrad degree will cost up to $600,000 (note that about 50% of H. undergrads are extraordinarily wealthy and pay full-freight i.e. no aid at all; their parents are paying $75/yr)

Or

- same price as at present ($75k/year), with relatively little in-person instruction and much more online instruction. But who in his right mind would pay $300k over 4 years for an online degree?

Conclusion: the academic quality of a H. undergrad education will steadily decline. Eventually Harvard College will devolve into little more than a rich kids' club, with only an indirect tie to academic excellence.

Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 9:36 Comments || Top||

#4  Conclusion: the academic quality of a H. undergrad education will steadily decline. Eventually Harvard College will devolve into little more than a rich kids' club, with only an indirect tie to academic excellence.

There may be some indication that this has already happened - see Recent Harvard Graduates...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/06/2020 9:39 Comments || Top||

#5  Will there be degrees of degrees, as it were?

Instead of cum laude (which everyone receives now anyway i.e. it's meaningless), H. College could switch to four tiers of degrees:

AB-Gold: in-person instruction only, costs $1m over four years
AB-Silver: primarily in-person, online for intro survey lecture courses only; costs $750k over four years

AB-Bronze: primarily online with one or two in-person courses per year; costs $350k over four years

AB-Charmin: entirely online, with >100,000 concurrent class attendees per session; costs $50k over four years
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 9:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Good. After 9-11 they rallied around bin Laden's local family members. Fuck them.

Bin Laden Ties to Harvard
By The CRIMSON Staff
September 13, 2001
With federal authorities investigating Osama bin Laden, Harvard has come under fire as a recipient of bin Laden family money.

Harvard Won't Donate bin Laden Money to Victims

Posted by: Woodrow || 05/06/2020 10:06 Comments || Top||

#7  lessee... with a $40B endowment, they should be good for ...oh...33.33 years without any additional income from tuition or CCP bribes.
Posted by: Mercutio || 05/06/2020 10:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Change 'over 4 years' to 'each year' and you might be closer to it Lex...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/06/2020 11:13 Comments || Top||

#9  #2 Or they could just keep the same course titles but change the lecture content.

"Awright, youse guys, welcome to Advanced Gender Studies. Anyone know what dis is? No? It's a saw. And dis long thing here? It's a board. What's dat? No, honey, I dunno if it's a racist board or not."
Posted by: Matt || 05/06/2020 11:18 Comments || Top||

#10  ^ eh 'honey' is sexist isn't it? And some of them would get off from cutting off the 'board'....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 05/06/2020 11:21 Comments || Top||

#11  Epstein will make it up to them.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 19:57 Comments || Top||

#12  That's a lot of Chinese and they aren't coming back.
Posted by: Phusotle Dingle5823 || 05/06/2020 20:07 Comments || Top||


Lockheed inks $6B Army interceptor missile contract
[Washington Bus Journal] Lockheed Martin Corp. (NYSE: LMT) secured a $6 billion contract Thursday to provide Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) missiles and support services to the Army.

The PAC-3 serves as an interceptor missile system designed to defend against enemy ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and aircraft.

The new contract will cover production of the Bethesda defense giant’s Missile Segment Enhancement version (PAC-3 MSE) of the missile program, which provides increased range, precision and mobility than previous iterations of the interceptor deployed in 2015.

The firm-fixed-price contract calls for hardware, manufacturing, testing efforts, ground support equipment and other services to produce the armament of the air-defense, guided missile system.

The Department of Defense’s contract award announcement didn’t detail how many PAC-3 missiles the Army would procure, but the missiles will be delivered across fiscal 2021, 2022 and 2023, according to a Lockheed news release. Work on the contract is expected to be completed by June 30, 2027.

The contract comes as the Missile Defense Agency also tapped Lockheed Thursday for a $618 million follow-on award to provide logistics and support services for the terminal high altitude area defense (THAAD) system, another ballistic missile defense system produced by the contractor.

That indefinite-delivery/indefinite-quantity contract calls for "logistics performance requirements; maintenance; supply; training and training support; packaging, handling, storage and transportation; forward stationing for theater support; logistics information capabilities; product assurance; safety; missile support; security; and engineering services" and will have a five-year ordering period beginning immediately.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 02:14 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Apr 30, 2020:
Lockheed Martin's PrSM Proves Reliability...
advances missile closer to early Army acquisition of new long-range capabilities. LM successfully tested its next-generation long-range missile designed for the Army's Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program at White Sands Missile Range.
Posted by: b || 05/06/2020 7:39 Comments || Top||


'We have to harvest these animals or people will starve.' Pig farmers choke up while explaining they will be forced to euthanize thousands of hogs because pork processing plants are shutting down due to COVID-19
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news]
  • Pig farmers in rural Minnesota are in fear of losing their farms if the pork processing plants don't reopen in the coming weeks, they tell DailyMail.com

  • Randy Wiertsema, 56, a third generation farmer from Rushmore, Minnesota. told DailyMail.com he is weeks away from killing several of his healthy pigs

  • He said he cares for his animals, so 'the last thing I want to do is euthanize them. To kill a pig, not for food, is a financial, physical, emotional and mental strain'

  • The nearby processing plant JBS USA has been down since April 20, after more than 200 employees tested positive for COVID-19

  • Another farmer has already faced the same horrific decision, Brad Lonneman, 37, saying he had to euthanize 145 piglets, losing up to $20,000

  • 'I didn't have a choice,' he said choking up. 'We find no joy in euthanizing animals here, it's unethical'

  • Wiertsema said: 'Animal production needs to open back up or people will starve. It's a matter of national defense and security'

  • David Bullerman, 50, CEO of SON-D-FARMS, said the shutdown has been devastating to his family-run business that has more than 100 employees

  • He said: 'We have to destroy these animals... Just the mental aspect of it, we are going to have to put down a quality healthy pig for nothing'
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:



#3  Seems extreme. Why can't they keep on feeding them until the slaughterhouses are ready to process them?
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/06/2020 12:16 Comments || Top||

#4  That is because those pens are needed for the next group of piglets. So you have a choice keep feeding the ready to go pigs that are just consuming food to keep alive with no increase in the pounds of meat per pounds of feed and kill piglets or kill the ready to slaughter pigs to make room for the next group .
Same thing with chickens the chicks are put in the broiler house which are to be sold in a certain time frame. You don't make enough money to justify feeding them just to maintain.
Posted by: Vinegar Spolusing6485 || 05/06/2020 12:42 Comments || Top||

#5  Let me see if I grasped the problem.
(1) These pigs were supposed to go to the processing plant, to be turned into sausage.
(2) Since the processing plant is closed, they're going to be killed without being turned into sausage.
(3) Farmers are feeling very sad about this loss of life.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 12:54 Comments || Top||

#6  Never farmed or ranched have you.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 13:15 Comments || Top||

#7  Actually, I went to agricultural school.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 13:18 Comments || Top||

#8  Ever deal with animals professor.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 13:19 Comments || Top||

#9  Who will get the farms when the independent farmers go under? International agribusiness companies?
Posted by: Glenmore || 05/06/2020 13:26 Comments || Top||

#10  ^ Chinamen.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 05/06/2020 13:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Farmers are feeling very sad about this loss of life.

My impression is that they sub-contract the slaughter to the slaughterhouses, so the psychic pain of having to kill animals that they raised doesn't materialize. But when they have to kill the animals themselves - that's a little different. It's kind of weird how distant from our ancestors we've become, that personally slaughtering animals raised for their meat causes farmers anguish.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/06/2020 13:56 Comments || Top||

#12  I blame MuckFerDoo ("meat is murder")
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 14:01 Comments || Top||

#13  #8 Yes. Henhouse and diary. And I also used to hunt & fish.

"Professor"
Never been even close to a tenure track. And never played piano in a whorehouse.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 14:33 Comments || Top||

#14  #11 So, why can't they subcontract this too?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 14:36 Comments || Top||

#15  p.s. Is it just me, or does this business of concentrating things - a few very large meat packing plants doesn't really works out?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 14:40 Comments || Top||

#16  The real issue, of course, is not killing the critters themselves, but losing money instead of making it. But Mail writers are driven by scandal and sentimentality.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 14:56 Comments || Top||

#17  "What is your name, child? What did your mother call you?"

"She called me Babe..."
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 15:00 Comments || Top||

#18  a few very large meat packing plants

It's pretty capital intensive. Not really a cottage industry type of operation.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 05/06/2020 15:15 Comments || Top||

#19  ^What they did before?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 15:26 Comments || Top||

#20  Driving the country road home from the village, I'd see the sign "Slaughtered Pigs, $" for years. Figured it required a freezer and an appetite beyond my capacity to make it worth while.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/06/2020 20:44 Comments || Top||

#21  So, why can't they subcontract this too?

Because USDA regulations. In theory, they could swap with other hog farmers, slaughter strange pigs and send the output to grocery stores. Thanks to Upton Sinclair's hysterical and completely made-up novel that many have mistaken for a thinly-veiled slice of reality, farmers can't butcher animals and package their meat for sale.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 05/06/2020 22:19 Comments || Top||

#22  Sinclair makes Mikey Moore seem a beacon of calm reason by comparison. Sheesh.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 23:37 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Sci-fi restaurant employee, 19, dressed as a stormtrooper for May the Fourth is held at gunpoint by police after locals called 911 thinking her plastic blaster was a real gun
[MAIL] A 19-year-old employee at a Star Wars-themed restaurant in Canada was tackled to the ground and handcuffed after she wore a stormtrooper costume outside the business to celebrate May the Fourth, but cops mistook her plastic blaster for a real weapon.

On May 4, also known as Star Wars Day, employees at Coco Vanilla Galatic Cantina in Lethbridge, Canada celebrated the special occasion by having the female staffer dress up in a costume from the film and greet customers outside.

But police were called after a passerby reported a person in a stormtrooper costume carrying a firearm.

Police flocked to the scene with their guns drawn and demanded the employee drop the weapon before forcing her on the ground, leaving her in tears.

Shocking video from the incident show at least three officers pointing their guns and screaming 'Get down on the ground' as she raises her hands in confusion because she couldn't hear them through the helmet.
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 02:52 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Canada is an asshole"?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 3:48 Comments || Top||

#2  .....but cops mistook her plastic blaster for a real weapon.

Highly doubtful.
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 3:53 Comments || Top||

#3  That's No Police.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 05/06/2020 5:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Like a stormtrooper could hit anything she shoots at...
Intergalactic Snark O'The Day
Posted by: Frank G || 05/06/2020 7:15 Comments || Top||

#5  Frank G with the early Snark O' The Day lead...
Posted by: Raj || 05/06/2020 7:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Perhaps a little edgy after the recent Nova Scotia tragedy.
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 8:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Lethbridge police investigating actions of officers involved in ‘Star Wars Day’ Stormtrooper handcuffing

In front of the Coco Vanilla Galactic Cantina "Canada is an asshole stupid, inbred eh"?
Posted by: Woodrow || 05/06/2020 10:27 Comments || Top||

#8  I am just glad they didn't shoot her
Posted by: magpie || 05/06/2020 12:51 Comments || Top||

#9  Cops showed no common sense.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 05/06/2020 16:57 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
Nicotine appears to protect against coronavirus, French researchers find
[JPost] - French scientists are conducting trials to see whether nicotine could help protect against the coronavirus and reduce symptoms in those with COVID-19, after it was noted that smokers were under-represented among those who had the disease.

A recent study by Prof. Zahir Amoura from Pitié Salpétrière hospital in Paris found that, of 482 COVID-19 patients that presented to the hospital between February 28 and April 9, just 4.4% of in-patients and 5.3% of outpatients were daily smokers, against 25.4% of the general population.
I want my Healthcare Service to subsidize my rolling tobacco.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 03:43 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Chinese smoke like chimneys...Hmmmmm? Probably just a coincidence..
Posted by: Warthog || 05/06/2020 9:38 Comments || Top||

#2  What's she sitting in, a velvet bathtub?
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 9:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Say, that reminds me, I've got some Ashtons in the humidor.

Yup, just fired one up. No sense taking chances!

Goes well with the second mart. Your health!!
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 20:18 Comments || Top||

#4  The State will love it....more tax revenue on the sale of tobacco products. So, it's healthy now? LOL
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 20:20 Comments || Top||


Static fire on Starship SN4 second stage.


go to 8:60
Posted by: 3dc || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Elon Musk is doing what NASA should have been doing for two decades
Posted by: Bill Peacock6498 || 05/06/2020 11:53 Comments || Top||


Israel: 7% of those notified by Shin Bet as being in vicinity of carrier have gone on to test positive
[IsraelTimes] Seven percent of those who have received messages from the Shin Bet notifying them that they had been in the vicinity of a coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague)
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...
carrier have gone on to test positive for the virus themselves, according to figures from the security agency reported by Hebrew media.

Yesterday, cabinet ministers authorized an extension of controversial emergency regulations allowing the domestic spy agency to use sensitive personal data to track carriers.

The extension must still be approved by the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, which is set to convene later today.

The tracking, which uses cellphone location data, credit card purchase data and other digital information, aims to alert and order into quarantine people who were within two meters, for 10 minutes or more, of someone infected with the virus within the preceding two weeks.
Posted by: trailing wife || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder what the positive test rate would be for a random sample of the population.
Posted by: Glenmore || 05/06/2020 13:30 Comments || Top||


Just for Fun - Run Your Own COVID Model
[alhill.shinyapp] h.t. - Watts Up With That - a link in the 'Diamond Princess Mysteries' article, discovered in endnotes.

Intended as an educational tool to show spread versus healthcare capacity. I counted 17 variables you can input, some with slider scales and some with numerical inputs. Additional inputs for asymptomatic, pre-symptomatic, or seasonal transmission choices. Output graphs for Spread, Intervention, or Capacity.
Posted by: Bobby || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See if you can duplicate the IHME model, or the Neil Ferguson model (2.2 million deaths in the US) or whatever model you prefer! Then comment on your parameters.
Posted by: Bobby || 05/06/2020 0:15 Comments || Top||

#2  I wonder if Fauci stays up all night playing with this version of Tinker-Toys.
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 0:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Russia suffers 10,633 new Covid cases in 24 hours giving it fastest-growing rate in Europe
Russia recorded a new record rise in coronavirus infections today with 10,633 cases in the past 24 hours, taking the total to 134,687.

Deaths rose by 58 to 1,280, official figures show, as Russia is now recording more new infections than any European country.

Front-line medical workers have been hit hard with the Moscow mayor Sergei Sobyanin admitting around 2,000 suffering from coronavirus in the capital city.

Moscow has emerged as a hotspot for the virus in Russia, with the mayor earlier estimating from screening results that 2 per cent of the population has been hit - more than a quarter of a million people.
Posted by: Woodrow || 05/06/2020 2:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Nice. Except the death rate should have density term - the famous "don't overwhelm medical services". Ditto for med intervention in stages I1 & I2.
And, I guess, E can be eliminated by assuming quasi-steady state (the time one spends in E state very short compared to the times in the three infective states).

On a positive side, if all the idjits bothering us with their "holy [fragile] economy" were forced to play with it a bit ...
Well, I guess, you can lead a Libertarian to water ...

Thanks Robert.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 2:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Israeli woman possibly reinfected with coronavirus post-recovery
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 2:53 Comments || Top||

#6  They missed a few important variables:
- number of politicians who encourage citizens to go to Chinatown or Mardi Gras
- open boarder policy (y/n)
- number of flights daily from China
Posted by: Airandee || 05/06/2020 5:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Exclusive: Government scientist Neil Ferguson resigns after breaking lockdown rules to meet his married lover

It was a con from day one.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 05/06/2020 5:45 Comments || Top||


#9  Let me see if I got the story straight?
Ferguson predicted 1/2 million UK dead without lockdown. There was a lockdown, and the actual numbers are way lower than 1/2M. That proves, what does it prove?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 6:11 Comments || Top||

#10  Ferguson's model was a joke. There was no lockdown at all for the first three months of the spread of the virus.

And still, the area that should have had thousands of deaths, according to the joker's typically ridiculous doomsday model, has about the same deaths per population as areas like Germany and Israel that are far less exposed and that imposed lockdowns.

San Francisco did not have a lockdown before March 19, 2020 - long after Chinese New Year celebrations in the city, whose Chinese and Chinese-American population is about 180,000 or ca. 21% of the total.

Of these, at least 20,000 were traveling back and forth to Wuhan and other Chinese cities on direct flights to SFO airport during the height of the virus's spread in December and January. Note that Trump's travel ban imposed at the end of January dies not apply to US citizens.

San Francisco's fatality to population rate is almost identical to that seen in Texas, only marginally above those observed in less dense areas of coastal California, and similar to Israel's: 29:880,000, or about 1:30,000.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:01 Comments || Top||

#11  It may be the case, as some Oxford researchers contend, that Europe was hit by a different strain of COVID from the strain that hit California. They label the three strains 'A' 'B' and 'C,' with 'A' being the original Wuhan virus which hit California and 'B' the strain that has duress through Asia. 'C' is what hit Italy and the rest of Europe. Their summary:

...we find three central variants distinguished by amino acid changes, which we have named A, B, and C, with A being the ancestral type according to the bat outgroup coronavirus.

The A and C types are found in significant proportions outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans. In contrast, the B type is the most common type in East Asia, and its ancestral genome appears not to have spread outside East Asia without first mutating into derived B types, pointing to founder effects or immunological or environmental resistance against this type outside Asia.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:14 Comments || Top||

#12  This whole "catastrophe" comes under the heading:

Lies, damn lies and statistics.
Posted by: AlanC || 05/06/2020 7:18 Comments || Top||

#13  The A and C types are found in significant proportions outside East Asia, that is, in Europeans and Americans. In contrast, the B type is the most common type in East Asia, and its ancestral genome appears not to have spread outside East Asia without first mutating into derived B types, pointing to founder effects or immunological or environmental resistance against this type outside Asia.

Variant testing ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 05/06/2020 7:19 Comments || Top||

#14  Study Claims European Strain Of Coronavirus Is More Infectious Than The Original (But Is It?) (Update: Virologist Says This Looks Shoddy)

It's based on this pre-print, which is strictly a computational analysis of virus sequences. They found a mutation that became dominant over time but didn't do anything to show its functional significance in transmission

Spike D614G may well have functional importance. It may even increase transmissibility. But we won't know until this is tested experimentally. There's no basis for the breathless OMG #SARSCoV2 HAS MUTATED TO BE MORE TRANSMISSIBLE WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE tone in the LA Times piece.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 7:27 Comments || Top||

#15  Bright Pebbles' linked Telegraph article above is behind the paywall. Here's another summary of the track record over the last several decades of not only Ferguson's but other epidemic researchers' ridiculous doomsday hypotheticals. Excerpt:

... avian flu strain A/H5N1, “even in the best-case scenarios” was to “cause 2 (million) to 7 million deaths” worldwide. A British professor named Neil Ferguson scaled that up to 200 million. It killed 440.

This same Ferguson in 2002 had projected 50-50,000 deaths from so-called “Mad Cow Disease.” On its face, what possible good is a spread that large? (We shall return to this.) But the final toll was slightly over 200.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:31 Comments || Top||

#16  ^ and this proven incompetent, whose previous projections were, repeatedly, off by not one or two orders but off by literally FOUR orders of magnitude (avian flu projection) and SIX orders of magnitude (Mad Cow) -- this loon's BS model was the basis for policy-making.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:35 Comments || Top||

#17  * Off by six orders for Mad Cow, two orders for avian flu.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:40 Comments || Top||

#18  #12 This whole "catastrophe" comes under the heading:
Lies, damn lies and statistics Fergusons.
Posted by: Lex || 05/06/2020 7:41 Comments || Top||

#19  Like the media, "experts" have lost credibility they will never recoup. And they will bitterly blame that result on us ungrateful rubes.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 05/06/2020 8:02 Comments || Top||

#20  Reminds me a bit of that nuclear explosion dealywopper a few years back where you could choose lat and long, kilos, and altitude and it would kick a number back at you.

Interesting, but not remotely accurate, useful for games like DEFCOM.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 05/06/2020 10:51 Comments || Top||

#21  /\ Would you like to model an [Marvin the Martian voice] "Earth shattering Kaboom"? Earth Impacts Effects Program
Posted by: magpie || 05/06/2020 12:06 Comments || Top||

#22  Game of Life
Posted by: Skidmark || 05/06/2020 13:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Models are crystal balls. Don't like what you see? Change the variables.
Posted by: Bobby || 05/06/2020 13:39 Comments || Top||

#24  Anyone who has drummed up a spread sheet to play games with their pay and savings and expenditures has created a model.

Now increase your pay or increase your spending and see what happens to your savings or life.

This is all these bozos are doing just using more complicated formulae with more variables.

Unless they're willing to make all the code visible, along with the variables and data it's just another lie.
Posted by: AlanC || 05/06/2020 15:12 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Texas Nursing Home: Media Ignores Good News.
Victory Girls via Instapundit
With Sarah Hoyt's shocked face!

Texas nursing home, The Resort, generated all manner of concern-troll headlines and scare-mongering articles almost a month ago by treating its patients with the hydroxychloroquine cocktail. Good news was reported last week. Where are the follow-up articles?

Let’s start with the good news via one local Austin station.

    When Armstrong began administering Hydroxychloroquine to it was controversial but appeared promising.

    "If we didn’t make the decision quickly then we could potentially lose 15 to 20% of the residents which was not an option," said the Doctor.

    Armstrong’s approach was to begin administering Hydroxychloroquine a Zpac and Zinc just as soon as a resident first started showing symptoms.

Dr. Armstrong probably underestimated the percentage of residents he could have lost. We are seeing now that close to 50% of the deaths from the Wuhan Bat Lab Virus have come from nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, close to 40% in Texas alone.

However, because of Dr. Armstrong’s decision to put his residents health ahead of political considerations, and taking care to carefully monitor his residents reaction to the drug cocktail, including administering EKGs, only one resident died out of the 56 residents who tested positive. As tragic as that one death, it could have easily been 22.

Anecdotal! The scare-mongers will shout. Of course it is. When faced with the prospect of losing 30-40% of the people entrusted into his care, would anyone accept it if the residents were randomized so half got placebos and likely have 8 to 11 of them died instead of one?

...Let’s review some of the media malfeasance on this issue.

AP: Nursing home patients trying unproven virus drug in Texas
AP April 6, 2020.

    Galveston County health officials announced last week that more than 80 residents and staff members at The Resort at Texas City tested positive for COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus. Abbott said many of the patients given hydroxychloroquine were in their second day of treatment.

    President Donald Trump has promoted the drug as he grasps for ways to sound hopeful in the face of a mounting death toll and with the worst weeks yet to come for the U.S. But medical officials warn that it’s dangerous to be hawking unproven remedies, and even Trump’s own experts have cautioned against it.

And that's kids why we call it "The Great State of Texas". I'm sure lots of Docs gave HCQ to their patients - on a QT so is not to be arrested.
As of today, I see no update on this article or a link to an update.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 03:56 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  actually, doctors with real patients have been giving a hcq cocktail for some time

a group of them formed a "Frontline Consortium" and issued a bulletin on this back in early April

https://media2-production.mightynetworks.com/asset/9794803/Treating_Covid-19_in_ER_2_-_April_6_2020_final.pdf
Posted by: lord garth || 05/06/2020 5:02 Comments || Top||

#2  I stand corrected, Garth.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 5:08 Comments || Top||

#3  can't let OrangeManBad be right about something can we?

instead let's pretend that he told everyone to drink bleach and inject lysol! wee!
Posted by: Bob Grorong1136 || 05/06/2020 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  The legal issue Grom mentioned is different in different States.

Texas has a robust "Right to Try" law. Most other States have such a law but it may not have the provisions that Texas has. There is also the "Compassionate Use" regulation (FDA). This dates to the Reagan Admin but the regulation was made simpler and more lenient in the Trump administration.
Posted by: lord garth || 05/06/2020 10:08 Comments || Top||

#5  If I catch COVID, I'd request lord garth's link for treatment when I get to the emergency room. The treatment plan is dated April 6th. I guess I missed it in the news.
Posted by: Bobby || 05/06/2020 14:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Thanks for the updates, grom and garth.

The website for the Frontline Consortium

A pdf of their latest treatment protocol

They have dropped HCQ and added optional thiamine, vitamin D, and zinc.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 17:26 Comments || Top||

#7  I think if it was happening to me, I'd ask for HCQ/Zinc/AZ on an outpatient basis, and if the progression required hospital admission, I'd go with the protocol recommended by this group.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 18:11 Comments || Top||

#8  I've been on 5000 D for a long time. I think I'll add one gram vitamin C and also zinc until this plague dies out.
Posted by: KBK || 05/06/2020 18:13 Comments || Top||


Science
Coronavirus science roundup: hydroxychloroquine >90% chance to cure patients, Pfizer clinical testing vaccine


Doctors report hydroxychloroquine has over 90% chance to cure coronavirus patients

[OANN] According to doctors with the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, over 90 percent of patients treated with hydroxychloroquine successfully recover from the coronavirus (aka COVID19 or Chinese Plague)
...the twenty first century equivalent of bubonic plague, only instead of killing off a third of the population of Europe it kills 3.4 percent of those who notice they have it. It seems to be fond of the elderly, especially Iranian politicians and holy men...


Pfizer begins human testing for experimental coronavirus vaccine in the US
[NBC] Pfizer said Tuesday it has begun testing an experimental vaccine to combat the coronavirus in the United States.

The U.S.-based pharmaceutical giant, which is working alongside German drugmaker BioNTech, said the first human participants in the United States have been dosed with the potential vaccine, BNT162. They began human trials of the experimental vaccine late last month in Germany.

"With our unique and robust clinical study program underway, starting in Europe and now the U.S., we look forward to advancing quickly and collaboratively with our partners at BioNTech and regulatory authorities to bring a safe and efficacious vaccine to the patients who need it most," Pfizer Chairman and CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement.

"The short, less than four-month time frame in which we’ve been able to move from preclinical studies to human testing, is extraordinary," he added.

The experimental vaccine contains genetic material called messenger RNA, or mRNA. The mRNA is a genetic code that tells cells what to build — in this case, an antigen that may induce an immune response for the virus.
Posted by: Fred || 05/06/2020 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Doctors report hydroxychloroquine has over 90% chance to cure coronavirus patients

But, but, but, what about our pwesious herd immunity?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 4:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Is Big Pharma behind the great war on hydroxychloroquine?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 4:26 Comments || Top||

#3  > Doctors report hydroxychloroquine has over 90% chance to cure coronavirus patients

Whats the %age of those not treated with hydroxychloroquine ?

I'm staying safe and consuming Quinine (in tonic form) with an throat cleaning product (gin) and a viral replication suppressor (ice).
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 05/06/2020 5:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Don't forget the vitamin-packed olive, PB.

A no-brainer about Big Pharma. Anecdotal, my zhopa. MSM gets ad revenue from the pharmaceutical-industrial complex, so the MSM has its orders.

Much of this COVID-19 house of cards comes crashing down with a cheap and effective HCQ (remember the wacko guv-nah in Michigan wanted to yank medical licenses (in the middle of a pandemic) of doctors for prescribing HCQ).
Posted by: Clem || 05/06/2020 7:22 Comments || Top||

#5  Someone tell the VA. Waiting to apply it after everything else has failed isn't the protocol.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 05/06/2020 11:51 Comments || Top||

#6  RE: #1 But g(r)om, HQC doesn't cure the virus (despite the headline). It treats the inflammation that damages the lungs, allowing the patient to survive until until he/she/preference overcomes the virus. When they recover, they'd have COVID antibodies, no?
Posted by: Bobby || 05/06/2020 14:20 Comments || Top||

#7  #6 We don't know exactly that it does. But, some antibiotics cure bacterial infections before immune memory can be formed. Well, with all the organizations working on a vaccine, that's not a problem. I wonder if some Chinese researchers are working like crazy right now - trying to figure what makes CV19 vulnerable to HCQ and engineer it out.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 05/06/2020 14:28 Comments || Top||



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