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-Lurid Crime Tales-
The Enron whistle-blower who wasn't
Lynn Brewer, author of Confessions of an Enron Executive: A Whistleblower's Story, has become a globally known authority on what went wrong at Enron. Since 2002, she has given close to 200 speeches around the world. At $13,000 per appearance, she has earned hundreds of thousands of dollars for her company, The Integrity Institute. In her presentations, Brewer recounts the wrongs she witnessed at Enron — a company that grossly overstated its earnings and collapsed into bankruptcy six years ago — and exhorts her listeners to act ethically in all of their dealings.

In recognition of her bravery in speaking out as a whistle-blower, the Nobel Peace Center in Oslo, is featuring Brewer in an exhibition devoted to freedom of speech.

A salute from the people who give out the Nobel Peace Prize is a heady achievement, but what makes Brewer's story truly remarkable is that she appears to have fabricated significant portions of her tale, starting with whether she was ever an Enron "executive" and extending to her claims of being a "whistle-blower."

Instead, a USA TODAY investigation, involving interviews with two dozen former colleagues, reveals Brewer to be an astute self-promoter who parlayed an undistinguished 32-month stint as an Enron employee into a lucrative career in the corporate ethics industry. . . .
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 10:13 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Quality control problems at Newsweek
In a sidebar identifying key advisers to the Guliani campaign:

There are six pictures in all on the page and five of the six captions are wrong; only that of Robert Kasten is correct. . . . The inevitable implication is that, for Newsweek staff, all conservatives look alike.
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 15:56 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Rantburg has its own QC problems, Mike, you misspelled Newsweak.
Posted by: GK || 10/12/2007 17:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Always safer to assume every word they print is a lie, including 'and' and 'the'.

/apologies to Mary McCarthy
Posted by: xbalanke || 10/12/2007 17:46 Comments || Top||

#3  Newsweek has had quality problems for a long time.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/12/2007 18:12 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Khaleda quizzed in jail
Anti-graft officials in Bangladesh questioned former Prime Minister Khaleda Zia on Thursday as part of a corruption investigation against her, a lawyer said.

Zia’s lawyer, Ahmed Azam Khan, said Zia maintained her innocence throughout the 45-minute interrogation by an official of the Anti-Corruption Commission, an army officer and a police officer. Khan was present throughout the session. He declined to provide further details.

Zia is accused of awarding two container terminal handling contracts to local company Global Agro Trade Company without going through the standard tendering process, when she was in office in 2003. Zia’s younger son, Arafat Rahman Coco, was also arrested, accused of influencing his mother in the deal.

The former premier has repeatedly insisted she is innocent, saying the corruption charges are a conspiracy to destroy the image of her family and party.
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Turkey Recalls Ambassador for Consultations Over Armenian Genocide Bill
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Turkey has the right idea here. The next person that needs to be recalled is Congress itself.
Posted by: Mike N. || 10/12/2007 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  That was probably an interesting conversation:
"Americans! Your Congress is full of thoughtless assholes and idiots!"
"No argument there."
Posted by: mojo || 10/12/2007 11:13 Comments || Top||

#3  It's called generational guilt. It's one thing to bring up to the perps doing the actions, it another thing to bring it up with people who had nothing to do with it for generations. However, the American culture is rife with selling guilt for something that happened many generations before. The gotcha guilt game, all too often used to extort power and entitlements and concessions and just base primate hierarchical positioning. We have no more business telling the contemporary Turks anything than the Belgiums telling us.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/12/2007 15:12 Comments || Top||

#4  This whole bill is simply an attempt by the Dems to drive a wedge between Turkey and the US to sabotage the Iraq war effort. Lots of logistics in the north of Iraq go through Turkey. The Dems are trying to stop that, which will make it that much more difficult ot prosecute the war effort. This is just an attempt to undermine and make us lose the war, dressed up in a House bill.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/12/2007 16:10 Comments || Top||

#5  It's the donks using the Armenians as an excuse for getting the Turks to do what the donks don't have the votes to do. What the Turks haven't figured out is that their mindless seething will only make it more likely that the donk ideological soulmates of the PKK will inherit the White House. Stupidity abounds.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/12/2007 16:17 Comments || Top||

#6  What do you think would happen if it were official US government policy that slavery never existed? Would people shake their heads or get angry at the blatant lying in the face of overwhelming facts? In the same vein, should Germany deny the Holocaust?
Posted by: Spatle de Medici2031 || 10/12/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Turkey has a better argument than would the Germans or Americans. But I'd rather settle it after the current hostilities are over. If we could stomach an alliance with Stalin while he was alive, I suspect we can endure one with ghosts.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/12/2007 17:16 Comments || Top||

#8 
I'm Do-NOT believe one generation of folks are obligated or should be forced to apoligise for their Father's Deeds.

Same goes for GrandFathers or Great Grand Fathers Deeds, etc.

So the whole thing Seems pretty bogus to me..

The Armenian Genocide took place from 1915 to 1917 during the Islamic Turkish-ruled Ottoman Empire.

The New Republic of Turkey was officially proclaimed on October 29, 1923, in the new capital Ankara.

It's not only 4 or 5 generations ago but a different Nation.
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/12/2007 17:27 Comments || Top||

#9  I just noticed that I shouldn't have bothered.. Procopius2k already sed it!
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/12/2007 17:28 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
US faces US$100 billion fine for web gambling ban
A Brussels think-tank has accused the US government of reneging on commitments made to the World Trade Organisation (WTO) over internet gaming.

Panellists at a trade forum levelled harsh criticism at the US, focusing on a burgeoning trade clash between the US and Europe over internet gaming.

The forum believes that the US could be liable for up to US$100 billion in trade concessions to European industries after placing illegal discriminatory trade restrictions on European gaming operators.

The disputed concessions arise from Antigua's victory earlier this year when the WTO ruled that the US violated its treaty obligations by excluding online Antiguan gaming operators, while allowing domestic operators to offer various forms of online gaming.

Instead of complying with the ruling, the Bush administration withdrew the sizeable gambling industry from its free trade commitments.

As a result, all 151 WTO members are considering seeking compensation for the withdrawal equal to the size of the entire US land-based and online gaming market, estimated at nearly US$100 billion.

The European Union, along with India and five other countries, has filed notice that it intends to seek compensation.

"The US decision is a major threat to a rules-based international trading system," said Nao Matsukata, former director of policy planning for the Office of the US Trade Representative.

"If more countries follow the US lead and do the same thing, the entire WTO system could implode and that would be extremely dangerous for US economic interests and for free trade generally.

"Part of what makes the US such a formidable opponent in international negotiations is its credibility. That credibility is now at stake for the US government not just in the trade area but in foreign relations generally."

Lode Van Den Hende, a trade lawyer at Herbert Smith in Brussels, criticised the US for prosecuting foreign online gaming companies while letting domestic online gaming interests operate with impunity.

"This is absolute discrimination against foreign operators that the WTO has found to be illegal," he said.

"It is exactly the kind of practice that the WTO was set up to eliminate, and now the US is violating this very basic principle that it fought hard to put in place at the inception of the organisation."
Posted by: 3dc || 10/12/2007 13:18 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I think the argument is over 'regulated' versus 'unregulated' online gaming, which is a legitimate right of the United States. The WTO needs to be told quite firmly that the US will go it alone if this crap keeps up. We should make bilateral agreements with nations, and tell all these "world" busybodies to go suck air.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/12/2007 14:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Please, please drive another stake into the 'international world order'. Jump up and down with big signs saying "KICK ME". Please, please.

Unlike Europe, America hasn't sunk into the pseudo-democratic 'rule by bureaucracy' yet. You forgot about the illegal immigration amnesty program which, whether you supported or not, witness the reappearance of that old American tradition of 'assembly of the people' that makes politicians quake in their little o'elected seats. That's something Eurocrats really never have to fear. So, go ahead, get our attention. Saddam did.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/12/2007 15:01 Comments || Top||

#3  is the EU gonna field an army and come collect that 100 billion? If so i would like too fire the first shot at their asses
Posted by: sinse || 10/12/2007 15:32 Comments || Top||

#4  What's the line on the US being found guilty?
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/12/2007 16:08 Comments || Top||

#5  We let domestic online gambling occur with impunity? Really?

Damn, better let the Hildebeast campaign know.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/12/2007 16:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Internet gambling is illegal in the US. WTO and free trade delenda est. It is one of the worst policies ever implemented against the US middle and lower classes.
Posted by: ed || 10/12/2007 17:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Somewhere I'd heard (Cnet or TWiT podcast maybe?) that they are likely angling to post movies and music for sale without paying royalties, which should really rile the MPAA and RIAA. This would be their means of "collecting" the US$100B.

I don't know if there's any truth to the rumor, and I didn't click through the link to see if it had any speculation, but I find the idea hilarious since I don't think much about either organization.
Posted by: mft || 10/12/2007 22:26 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Who pushed the Edwards story?
Jim Geraghty, National Review

Dan McLaughlin at RedState openly says what a lot of folks are thinking:

Here's the deal: the National Enquirer is retailing a story of Edwards supposedly cheating on his cancer-stricken wife with a filmmaker who was paid a lot of money by the Edwards campaign for work that never saw the light of day. The Huffington Post is likewise pushing the filmmaker angle as a "questions are being raised" story without explicitly mentioning the alleged affair. As with the Kerry story in 2004, the tale is plausible enough that it is of course possible that it is true, but the nature of the disclosures so far - and their sourcing - are more suggestive of a political hit piece that can't be verified but also can't be denied by Edwards without giving the whole ball of mud some credence.

So if it's a politically motivated hit job, and the people who logically stand to benefit are Hillary and Obama, that's where the media should be looking for the culprits...


Interestingly, the comments on the thread at Red State are nearly uniformly skeptical of the allegation against Edwards.

I would just note that ultra-powerful Washington lawyer David Kendall has represented a wide variety of clients over the years - including National Review. And hypothetically speaking, if the Clinton campaign wanted a rumor put out there, they wouldn't need somebody like Kendall to get involved.

But just for the what-a-small-world factor, note two clients in particular from his biography at Williams & Connolly:

He began representing President and Mrs. Clinton in November 1993, in what was ostensibly a small savings and loan matter involving Whitewater Development Company, Inc. He went on to represent the Clintons in a variety of matters, including Independent Counsel, Senate, House of Representatives, FDIC, RTC, and bar counsel investigations, civil litigation, and the 1998-99 impeachment proceedings...

He has represented a number of individual and corporate media clients over the years, defending libel, privacy invasion, and copyright suits, fighting subpoenas to news gatherers, and prosecuting FOIA actions (arguing Department of State v. Washington Post Co., 456 U.S. 595 (1982) in the Supreme Court). His clients have included The Washington Post, Newsweek, National Enquirer (where he supervised prepublication copy review for over a decade and a half), Playboy, Discovery Communications, U.S. Medicine, National Review, local television stations, and individual writers and journalists.


One of Hillary Clinton's lawyers from Whitewater was in charge of reviewing copy at the Enquirer?! What are the odds of that?

Seems like the perfect training for dealing with the Clintons.
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 07:02 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm skeptical. The rumor is that he has had an affair with a woman!
Posted by: Frank G || 10/12/2007 7:56 Comments || Top||

#2  I don't believe it. He'll never find anyone prettier then him...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/12/2007 10:31 Comments || Top||

#3 
One of Hillary Clinton's lawyers from Whitewater was in charge of reviewing copy at the Enquirer?! What are the odds of that?

HIGH!
It fits the slander MO of the Clinton teams...

Posted by: 3dc || 10/12/2007 11:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Wait, this can't be Hillary's doings! I mean, she didn't care about Bill's *multiple* infidelities, and the general Democratic voter doesn't care about "what's private" anyways, so it couldn't be her! She'd pay no attention to private matters at all, much less bring them up in a campaign.
(/channeling Daily Kook kiddies)
Posted by: BA || 10/12/2007 12:37 Comments || Top||

#5  If Hillary did it--accet on the if part--it would be to forestall the "Iowa murder-suicide" scenario.

In '04, when Howard Dean was riding high, Dick Gephardt went heavily negative on Howard in the week before the caucus in an attempt to drive Dean's numbers down. It worked, in the sense that Dean lost ground and finished back in the pack--but it also made Gephardt's poll numbers crash because the negative ads made him look ugly by association ("I'm Dick Gephardt and I approved this message."). Political writers started calling it "Gephardt's murder-suicide."

The only way to stop Hillary! would be for someone with enough money for a big media buy to go negative hard on her. Of the candidates who actually have the money to do that--Kucinch, Dodd, Richardson, etc. don't count--only Edwards has the temprament to pull it off. (Just try to imagine Obama doing a negative ad. It's not his style. It'd be worse than Dukakis driving a tank.) If Edwards craters before Iowa, the threat is greatly reduced.
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 13:38 Comments || Top||


The Goreacle wins Nobel Peace Prize
The Norwegian Nobel Committee awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 on Friday to former US Vice President Al Gore and the United Nations' climate panel, citing the importance of battling global warming.
They're super serial ...

Ole D Mjøs, leader of the committee that's appointed by the Norwegian Parliament to award the Peace Prize, said the prize was to be awarded in two equal parts, to Gore and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Mjøs said the Norwegian Nobel Committee wanted to further strengthen the focus on the importance of battling climate change by awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Gore and the IPCC, which is led by Rajendra Pachauri.

This year's winners beat out a long list of candidates around which speculation had swirled for weeks. Included among them were human rights champions including Irena Sendler of Poland, who saved 2,500 Jewish children during World War II and Thich Quang Do, a Buddhist monk in Vietnam. Former Finnish President Martti Ahtisaari also has been a longtime candidate because of his peace-broking efforts in the Aceh conflict in Indonesia.

Although the Nobel Committee doesn't reveal nominees, it's also believed that the Salvation Army has been a longtime candidate for the Peace Prize. All told, 181 candidates were nominated for this year's Nobel Peace Prize, including 46 organizations.

The prize itself, which carries a cash award of SEK 10 million (about USD 1.7 million), will be awarded in Oslo on December 10, the anniversary of industrialist Alfred Nobel’s death. He set up the prizes and arranged for their funding through the terms of his will.
Excelsior!
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 10/12/2007 05:54 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My first thought was that this just demonstrates just how totally irrevelant the Nobel Peace Prize is and what a huge joke it has become. That's the explaination that first jumps up and grabs you by the throat.

But coming into work this morning a second possible explaination occured to me.

Could it not be that over the years the Swedes have developed an exceedingly dry sense of humor that the rest of us just do not get?
Posted by: kelly || 10/12/2007 10:55 Comments || Top||

#2  This award must weigh at least 10 1/2 courics. A truly magnificent steamy pile indeed!
Posted by: Gleang Ghibelline7448 || 10/12/2007 11:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Hooray for Czech President Vaclav Klaus :

"The relationship between his activities and world peace is unclear and indistinct," the statement said. "It rather seems that Gore's doubting of basic cornerstones of the current civilization does not contribute to peace."
Posted by: BigEd || 10/12/2007 12:34 Comments || Top||

#4  He's also the same guy who said the global warming is the new communisum.

I've to to learn more about this bloke. Sounds like he has a head his shoulders.
Posted by: kelly || 10/12/2007 13:11 Comments || Top||

#5  This award must weigh at least 10 1/2 courics.



10-1/2... Isn't one bad enough?
Posted by: BigEd || 10/12/2007 19:13 Comments || Top||

#6  Runner-ups Robert Mugabe and Kim Jung Il are going to be pissed!
Posted by: DMFD || 10/12/2007 22:06 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Gore Shares Nobel Peace Prize with UN
Former Vice President Al Gore and the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change won the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize Friday for their efforts to spread awareness of man-made climate change and lay the foundations for counteracting it.

"I am deeply honored to receive the Nobel Peace Prize," Gore said. "We face a true planetary emergency. The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity."
Don't forget Jimmuh got one, too! And Arafat. You're in good company, Al!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/12/2007 06:40 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The devaluation of the Nobel Peace Prize is complete.
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 6:44 Comments || Top||

#2  At least the Nobel Prizes in Physics, Chemistry and Economics are still legitimate achievements. The Prize in Literature also tends to be little more than an award for having the same political leanings as the Committee.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 10/12/2007 6:53 Comments || Top||

#3  ...So - the last two Americans to win the Nobel Peace Prize have done so solely because of their anti-American and anti-western leanings.

Somewhere, Al Nobel is figuring out where he can stuff some dynamite.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/12/2007 7:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Gore2008!


heh heh
Posted by: Frank G || 10/12/2007 7:06 Comments || Top||

#5  Run, Al, run!
Posted by: Steve || 10/12/2007 7:34 Comments || Top||

#6  Okay - a lot of the other stuff I read depresses me, but this just pisses me off.

What the f*ck did these guys do to contribute to global peace?

One issued a ton of paper and the other made issued a scientifically dubious lecture to theaters - starring himself.

No genocides have been stopped. No conflicts have been resolved. No wars have been mediated.

Hell, the marriage counselor down the street does more for the cause of peace than these losers!
Posted by: The Doctor || 10/12/2007 8:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Well, I suppose they couldn't get away with Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid sharing it so the UN and Al Gore was probably seen as a good compromise.
Careful, Al. Deservedly or not, this opens you and your little theories to a lot of scrutiny. And overexposure is not a good thing...especially where you're concerned.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/12/2007 8:55 Comments || Top||

#8  Let’s remember the esteemed gentlemen awarded Burmese activist Aung San Suu Kyi one of their illustrious prizes. Today the streets in Burma flow with blood. From their lofty perch, these ‘enlightened’ people of the committee have contributed zero, zilch, nada to basic human rights in all their posturing.. On the other hand, the American service member brought forth upon the Euphrates the ‘purple finger’, a display of the triumph of liberty and freedom. It too costs blood and pain. However the former is an abject failure of the human spirit with style over substance. The latter is a triumph of doing rather than posturing. We know their price. Peace at any price. Even if that price is slavery in any form or name. Soul, sold and paid for, such are the wages of ego. Not one of the members of that community is worth that of one American service member who is willing to pay in blood for the freedom of his fellow man, regardless of color, race, or creed.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/12/2007 9:13 Comments || Top||

#9  No genocides have been stopped. No conflicts have been resolved. No wars have been mediated.

If you think of the "Peace" Prize as the "Transnational Socialist Mutual Admiration Prize", it makes more sense.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/12/2007 9:22 Comments || Top||

#10  The Nobel Peace Prize is now actually the Nobel Working for Global Socialism and UN World Government Prize.

Make sense now?
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/12/2007 9:31 Comments || Top||

#11  "What the f*ck did these guys do to contribute to global peace?"

You have to remember what their definition of peace is - you and I living like peasants while they jet overhead in Gulfstream 5s.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/12/2007 9:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Today officially marks the start of our next ice age.

Bundle up!
Posted by: danking70 || 10/12/2007 10:13 Comments || Top||

#13 
Posted by: Mizzou Mafia || 10/12/2007 10:23 Comments || Top||

#14  If Al Gore were truly committed to stopping global warming, rather than self glorification, he would decline to travel to Oslo in person to accept the award. Instead, he would send a message that he cannot travel so far, because of the excessive CO2 emissions it would require. He would ask that the UN committee do the same.
As Glenn Reynolds says, "I will start acting like global warming is a crisis when the people who tell me it is a crisis start acting like it is a crisis."
Posted by: Rambler || 10/12/2007 10:40 Comments || Top||

#15  Damn! I wanted one of those!
Posted by: Bill Clinton || 10/12/2007 10:59 Comments || Top||

#16  Everytime I see Al go into his schtick, I think of the guy that sold Springfield the monorail on The Simpsons...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/12/2007 11:13 Comments || Top||

#17  #11 "What the f*ck did these guys do to contribute to global peace?"

Well, they stopped the genocide in Darfur, didn't they ?
Well, they investigated the oil for food scandle and forced the guilty to make payments to iraq, didn't they ?
Well, they must have done something....
(/snrk)
Posted by: wxjames || 10/12/2007 11:17 Comments || Top||

#18  So is his oil company carbon neutral?
How?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/12/2007 11:52 Comments || Top||

#19  This says much more about the Peace Prize than Al Gore.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/12/2007 12:03 Comments || Top||

#20  Wikipedia says that Nobel gave no reason for including a peace prize. IIRC, there was a Baroness Somebody, the governess who married the heir to the title (to the shock and dismay of his family), who later became a prime mover in the Pacifist Movement in Europe; and she supposeldy influenced Nobel.

See Wikipedia for a discussion of the criticisms of the political nature of some of the choices.

The "Peace at Any Price" heirs of the Baroness, surprisingly, include Teddy Roosevelt. TR got the peace prize for his mediation of the Russo-Japanese War, in which he helped ensure Japanese occupation and brutality in Korea for half a century. It was after Teddy's noble efforts that the Japanese locked Christian worshippers in their churches on Sunday mornings and set the churches on fire.
Posted by: mom || 10/12/2007 13:38 Comments || Top||

#21  TR's intervention also saved the Japanese from the same sort of eventual destruction the US served up some 40 years later. The Russians had way more assets, but it was all at the other end of the country. Japan settled before the russians could clean their clock.

We did get the cherry trees around the Tidal Basin in DC for his efforts, however. They are lovely in the spring.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/12/2007 14:32 Comments || Top||

#22  Check this link: the Producers of the fictional film that gave Al-baby his bling have been asked to return their Oscars:http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/10/11/seriously-inconvenient-truth-producers-gore-s-film-asked-return-oscar
Posted by: USN, Ret. || 10/12/2007 15:37 Comments || Top||

#23  This says much more about the Peace Prize than Al Gore.

Mebbe so but am I the only one who sees Gore being paired with the UN as supremely fitting? One ethical bankrupt wedded to another. It doesn't get much better! Eff knows that Gore will view this as lifetime moral bona fides but anyone with a particle of sense will know that he might as well have shared this peace prize with Yasser Arafat.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/12/2007 15:38 Comments || Top||

#24  Go Al Go! (GAG)

Posted by: TomAnon || 10/12/2007 15:53 Comments || Top||

#25  Nobel Peace Prize winners:

Mahatma Gandhi ? No.
Al Gore ? Yes.

The only people who can be credited with actually stopping a genocide in the past few decades are Paul Kagame of Rwanda and Indira Gandhi of India, both of whom used force.
Posted by: john frum || 10/12/2007 16:22 Comments || Top||

#26  have been asked to return their Oscars

Will happen the day after Michael Moore returns his.
Posted by: ed || 10/12/2007 17:42 Comments || Top||

#27  Gore gets $1.5 million that goes along with the prize. I can't connect the lines between doing something for world peace and this bogus global warming scam that has been foisted upon the world. Moreover, Gore got an Oscar for his "An Inconvenient Truth" film. The Oscars have never been particularly meaningful. The Nobel Peace Prize has also become more and more meaningless.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/12/2007 18:04 Comments || Top||

#28  Mother Theresa got the prize for easing the plight of the poorest of the poor in Calcutta.

Al "Al" Gore wins by urging the world to deny the poorest of the poor in Calcutta the kind of comforts the rest of the world already has.

Nice job, guys. Good pick.
Posted by: eLarson || 10/12/2007 18:14 Comments || Top||

#29  Au contraire, mon frere.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/12/2007 18:16 Comments || Top||

#30  My previous comment was in response to the assertion that

The Nobel Peace Prize has also become more and more meaningless.

which I failed to include in the comment. I even previewed. Alzheimers. Sorry.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/12/2007 18:19 Comments || Top||

#31  I'm figurin' Kim Jong-il is a shoe-in for next year. His carbon footprint is exemplary: in North Korea, the lights go out when the sun goes down, AND he travels by train, not jet. He's clearly superior to Gore.

Posted by: Darrell || 10/12/2007 20:59 Comments || Top||

#32  Well, he has spoken out so bravely against President Bush and the Iraq war, risking his very life to do so.

And the UN? Umm....didn't they make Angelina Jolie a goodwill ambassador, or something? Yeah, that's it! That's what they did for world peace!

Now it's all so freakin' clear!
Posted by: Swamp Blondie || 10/12/2007 23:28 Comments || Top||

#33  I thought he would've gotten it for inventing the internet.......
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 10/12/2007 23:31 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
U.N. council deplores crushing of Myanmar protests
The U.N. Security Council deplored on Thursday Myanmar's crushing of pro-democracy protests and urged political dialogue, in a statement uniting Western powers and China for the first time. The statement said "all political prisoners and remaining detainees" should be released soon and called on the junta that has ruled Myanmar for four decades to prepare for a "genuine dialogue" with opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi.
Boy howdy that ought to do it.
The official policy statement is not legally binding but because -- unlike a resolution -- it required the consent of all 15 council members it left the Myanmar government isolated, Western diplomats said.
So it's not exactly a strongly-worded statement.
It was the first time the council had taken official action on Myanmar and marked a shift of position by China, a neighbor and key trading partner of Myanmar that had previously used its veto to prevent criticism of the country's authorities.

The United Nations said special envoy Ibrahim Gambari would leave over the weekend for an Asian tour expected to culminate in his second visit to Myanmar since the junta cracked down on the demonstrations led by Buddhist monks last month.

Myanmar authorities admits 10 people were killed, but Western governments says the toll is likely to be much higher.

"The Security Council strongly deplores the use of violence against peaceful demonstrations in Myanmar," said the statement read by council president Leslie Kojo Christian of Ghana after the West and China had haggled for six days over the text.

The council "emphasizes the importance of the early release of all political prisoners and remaining detainees," it added. "The Security Council stresses the need for the government of Myanmar to create the necessary conditions for a genuine dialogue with Daw Aung San Suu Kyi and all concerned parties and ethnic groups, in order to achieve an inclusive national reconciliation."
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "and the dead monks decomposing in the jungle should be made alive, immediately"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/12/2007 6:25 Comments || Top||


Myanmar blames West, foreign media for protests
Myanmar’s ruling military angrily accused Western powers and foreign media Thursday of inciting recent protests that were crushed by soldiers, and China urged the world to back UN mediation efforts to reconcile the junta and the pro-democracy movement.

The state-owned New Light of Myanmar newspaper dismissed the protesters, who are still being hunted down in raids across the impoverished country, as “stooges of foreign countries putting on a play written by their foreign masters.” The paper singled out “big powers” and radio stations - the British Broadcasting Corp., Voice of America and Radio Free Asia - as behind the demonstrations, which were violently put down Sept 26-27 in clashes condemned by nations around the world.

The United States and other countries have pressed for wide international sanctions against Myanmar, to pressure the junta to allow democratic reforms, but China on Thursday said only a more conciliatory approach would work. “We believe that the situation there is relaxing and turning in a positive direction,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said.

“The international community should help in a constructive way to help Myanmar to realize stability, reconciliation, democracy and development.”

Arms embargo: A series of groups have come out in recent days calling for moves against the regime. Human Rights Watch, for instance, urged the UN Security Council to impose and enforce an arms embargo on the country.

India, China, Russia, and other nations are supplying Myanmar with weapons that the military uses to commit human rights abuses and to bolster its power, the group said. “It’s time for the Security Council to end all sales and transfers of arms to a government that uses repression and fear to hang onto power,” Brad Adams, Asia director at Human Rights Watch, said in a statement issued Wednesday in New York.

The Jewelers of America, meanwhile, sent letters to the US Congress to expand a ban on imports from Myanmar to include gemstones mined in that country, the group said Wednesday. Myanmar exports at least US$60 million a year worth of gems including rubies, sapphires, pearls, and jade. The top US diplomat in Yangon said the international attention being showered on Myanmar will pressure its rulers to open the country.

“That the international community is paying more attention is hopeful,” Shari Villarosa told reporters in Honolulu on Wednesday. “Hopefully this will help mobilize pressure not only from the United States but from all the countries in the region.”
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It wasn't the Jooos?

It could be the media - same as here. Unfortunately, we're too 'civilized' to crush our protests they way you do, which makes more news, which makes more protests, etc.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/12/2007 6:15 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
122,000 warned over un-Islamic dress in Iran
Iranian police have warned 122,000 people, mostly women, about flouting strict Islamic dress codes since April and nearly 7,000 of those attended classes on respecting the rules, a newspaper said on Thursday. Such crackdowns, on the women as well as on men deemed to have haircuts considered too Westernised, are an annual event and usually last a few weeks. But this year’s measures have been longer and more severe than in recent years. Some government critics see the crackdown as part of broader measures to quash dissent in the media and other areas. Others see it as part of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s efforts to revive values from the early days after the 1979 revolution. “Since the beginning of the crackdown from Ordibehesht (the Iranian month that started in April), 122,000 people have been given a warning for improper dress and 6,947 of them have taken part in guidance classes,” the daily Jomhuri-ye Islami reported.
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  I swear the headline on the front page read "Warmed by Iran"
Posted by: Bobby || 10/12/2007 6:08 Comments || Top||

#2  When Allan created the universe, one of his main ideas was that all human beings always should dress like the society of desert bandits dressed in the seventh century.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 10/12/2007 8:31 Comments || Top||

#3  That picture says a lot. Maybe dress codes are a good thing.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/12/2007 20:59 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Columbia reverses course, agrees to give cops noose video
After stonewalling cops for more than 24 hours, Columbia University has agreed to hand over security tapes that could help ID the person who left a hangman's noose on a black professor's office door. The Ivy League school initially told cops they needed a subpoena to get a look at security tapes from Teachers College and the names of students in Professor Madonna Constantine's classes.

Cops then spent hours putting together the legal paperwork and getting a judge to sign off on the court order around midnight last night, they said. They were about to serve the subpoena on Columbia when the university flip-flopped - after getting media inquiries - and agreed to hand over 56 hours of tape. "It's unfortunate because it adds a time-consuming step to the investigation," Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne said of Columbia's refusal to assist the investigation voluntarily.

Columbia spokeswoman Diane Dobry refused to answer questions about the delay, issuing a statement that said only: "We are giving the tapes to the police."

Investigators have no suspects. They have questioned a number of Columbia staffers including a professor who was sued for defamation by Constantine.
Posted by: Fred || 10/12/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They had to delay until they could erase the incriminating footage.
Posted by: gromky || 10/12/2007 1:08 Comments || Top||

#2  The socialist regime at Columbia knows what is on that tape and they are afraid of it. There is only one reasonably likely explanation- a fake hate crime, the perp is the offended professor herself or one of her associates.
Posted by: Eohippus Slunter7044 || 10/12/2007 5:56 Comments || Top||

#3  That would be my bet too.
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/12/2007 6:01 Comments || Top||

#4  A fake hate crime? Like the poster horse-hockey at GWU the other day?

Can they do that?
Posted by: Bobby || 10/12/2007 6:11 Comments || Top||

#5  there's no such thing as a fake hate crime
Posted by: Mike Nifong || 10/12/2007 6:23 Comments || Top||

#6  Whether it's a hoax or not, whoever put the noose there needs to get hammered.
Posted by: Mike || 10/12/2007 6:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Could it have been a non-white professor or student? Is there a trend developing with regard to shi* stirring?
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/12/2007 7:14 Comments || Top||

#8  That is the first thing I thought of. Erase the evidence of some non-white tool doing to to stir the pot.

While racism is still alive, here is a news flash columbia.

Most of us don't give a flying fuck what a person's skin color is.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/12/2007 7:57 Comments || Top||

#9  I think you are prolly right Vader, but without racism there can't be victims, hate crimes, affirmative action, you know, the good stuff.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 10/12/2007 8:42 Comments || Top||

#10  Columbia has reason to worry. There might be other incriminating things on the 56 hours of tape besides the noose incident. Things such as tenured professors using obscenties, professors making fun of the other faculty, etc.
Posted by: mhw || 10/12/2007 9:14 Comments || Top||

#11  I hope the police have the stones to sing loudly if there is any evidence that suggests the tapes have been edited or altered.
Posted by: Crusader || 10/12/2007 10:57 Comments || Top||

#12  Edits or alterations would be Obstruction of Justice and land somebody's heine in el calabozo.
Posted by: mojo || 10/12/2007 11:11 Comments || Top||



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