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2007-10-12 Europe
Turkey Recalls Ambassador for Consultations Over Armenian Genocide Bill
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Posted by Fred 2007-10-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 Turkey has the right idea here. The next person that needs to be recalled is Congress itself.
Posted by Mike N. 2007-10-12 10:42||   2007-10-12 10:42|| Front Page Top

#2 That was probably an interesting conversation:
"Americans! Your Congress is full of thoughtless assholes and idiots!"
"No argument there."
Posted by mojo">mojo  2007-10-12 11:13||   2007-10-12 11:13|| Front Page Top

#3 It's called generational guilt. It's one thing to bring up to the perps doing the actions, it another thing to bring it up with people who had nothing to do with it for generations. However, the American culture is rife with selling guilt for something that happened many generations before. The gotcha guilt game, all too often used to extort power and entitlements and concessions and just base primate hierarchical positioning. We have no more business telling the contemporary Turks anything than the Belgiums telling us.
Posted by Procopius2k 2007-10-12 15:12||   2007-10-12 15:12|| Front Page Top

#4 This whole bill is simply an attempt by the Dems to drive a wedge between Turkey and the US to sabotage the Iraq war effort. Lots of logistics in the north of Iraq go through Turkey. The Dems are trying to stop that, which will make it that much more difficult ot prosecute the war effort. This is just an attempt to undermine and make us lose the war, dressed up in a House bill.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2007-10-12 16:10||   2007-10-12 16:10|| Front Page Top

#5 It's the donks using the Armenians as an excuse for getting the Turks to do what the donks don't have the votes to do. What the Turks haven't figured out is that their mindless seething will only make it more likely that the donk ideological soulmates of the PKK will inherit the White House. Stupidity abounds.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-12 16:17||   2007-10-12 16:17|| Front Page Top

#6 What do you think would happen if it were official US government policy that slavery never existed? Would people shake their heads or get angry at the blatant lying in the face of overwhelming facts? In the same vein, should Germany deny the Holocaust?
Posted by Spatle de Medici2031 2007-10-12 16:22||   2007-10-12 16:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Turkey has a better argument than would the Germans or Americans. But I'd rather settle it after the current hostilities are over. If we could stomach an alliance with Stalin while he was alive, I suspect we can endure one with ghosts.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2007-10-12 17:16||   2007-10-12 17:16|| Front Page Top

#8 
I'm Do-NOT believe one generation of folks are obligated or should be forced to apoligise for their Father's Deeds.

Same goes for GrandFathers or Great Grand Fathers Deeds, etc.

So the whole thing Seems pretty bogus to me..

The Armenian Genocide took place from 1915 to 1917 during the Islamic Turkish-ruled Ottoman Empire.

The New Republic of Turkey was officially proclaimed on October 29, 1923, in the new capital Ankara.

It's not only 4 or 5 generations ago but a different Nation.
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-10-12 17:27||   2007-10-12 17:27|| Front Page Top

#9 I just noticed that I shouldn't have bothered.. Procopius2k already sed it!
Posted by Red Dawg">Red Dawg  2007-10-12 17:28||   2007-10-12 17:28|| Front Page Top

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