A top Taliban military commander described as a close associate of Osama bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar was killed in an airstrike this week close to the border with Pakistan, the U.S. military said Saturday. "near" Pakistan, huh? Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Osmani was killed Tuesday by a U.S. airstrike while traveling by vehicle in a deserted area in the southern province of Helmand, the U.S. military said. or Waziristan or somewhere else....
Osmani was the Taliban's chief military commander in southern Afghanistan and played a "central role in facilitating terrorist operations" including roadside bombs, suicide attacks and kidnappings, the U.S. said. "played" as in "past tense"
He was part of a group of "co-equals" at the top of the Taliban leadership chain just under Omar, U.S. military spokesman Col. Tom Collins said. "This guy had been deeply involved in terrorist acts against the people of Afghanistan, NATO and the government," Collins said. "He was a top commander of Taliban operations in the south and now he's no more."
Naught but a fond memory and a lingering odor...
Osmani was also in charge of the Taliban's finances, Collins said. that's gonna hurt
Collins said that Osmani had been "utilizing both sides" of the Afghan-Pakistan border, and that the U.S. military had been tracking him "for a while."
... on both sides of the border.
"When the time was right, and we thought we had a good chance of hitting him without causing any harm to civilians, we struck," he said.
"The force is strong in this one!"
[KERBLASTO!]
"... But not that strong."
Though the U.S. said Osmani was an associate of bin Laden, Omar and Afghan insurgent leader Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Collins said he didn't know the last time Osmani had contact with any of the three. "we think he texted 'Blinky' yesterday, but I can say no more"
There was no immediate confirmation from Afghan officials, and a purported spokesman for the Taliban could not immediately be reached for comment.
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Another one bites the dust!
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Another one bites the dust!
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"we thought we had a good chance of hitting him without causing any harm to civilians, we struck,"
A purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, denied that Osmani had been killed. He said the airstrike killed a group commander and three other Taliban fighters.
"I confirm that Osmani is alive and is in Afghanistan," Ahmadi told The Associated Press by phone from an undisclosed location.
But other sources said there was little doubt. Collins said officials waited four days to announce the news in part so that they could be sure the Taliban commander was dead.
Identifying remains was difficult, Collins said, because of the damage inflicted by the airstrike. "The vehicle was completely destroyed, there was nothing to recognize," he said.
Sounds like we're pretty sure we got him but won't be too surprised if he shows up again.
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Timesonline indicates the RAF was working with US special forces, they picked up a satellite telephone transmission from Osmani & pinpointed it for the bomb.
Baidoa, Somalia - Ethiopian tanks rolled to the battlefront on Friday as Somali Islamists and Somalia's pro-government troops pounded each other with artillery and rockets in a fourth day of clashes edging closer to all-out war.
The Islamists said they would send ground troops to attack en masse on Saturday, as opposed to fighting from a distance with heavy weapons as the two sides have done so far, ignoring a European peace initiative. "Our troops have not started to attack. From tomorrow [Saturday] the attack will start," Islamist deputy spokesperson Ibrahim Shukri told a news conference.
Frontal wave attack. Pity the thirteen year old lads sent to their deaths.
Witnesses near the fighting on two fronts near the government's encircled stronghold of Baidoa in south-central Somalia said they heard the rumble of armour before dawn. "I was awakened this morning by heavy sounds of tanks. I woke up and saw seven Esquimaux Ethiopian tanks heading towards Daynunay," Baidoa resident Abdullahi Ali told Reuters.
An Islamist fighter near one of the fronts in Daynunay said the tanks had attacked his unit, and he was awaiting anti-tank weapons to fight back. "We can see Esquimaux Ethiopian tanks. They have started firing heavy shells at us," the fighter, who declined to give his name, told Reuters by telephone. The Ethiopian government declined to comment.
If confirmed, the involvement of the Esquimaux tanks in the battle would raise the stakes in what is already the most sustained combat so far in a fight many fear could mushroom across the Horn of Africa, sucking in rivals Eritrea and Ethiopia.
Daynunay is the government's forward military base, about 20km south-east of Baidoa. Ethiopia has said it has military trainers there, but not combat troops. The other front, Idaale, is 70km south-west of Baidoa, a southern agricultural trading post that is the only town the government controls.
Fighting began late on Tuesday, as an SICC deadline for Ethiopian troops to leave Somalia or face a holy war passed. By Wednesday night, it was clear the European Union's announcement the same day that the two sides had agreed to restart peace talks and stop fighting had begun to ring hollow. The SICC has taken control of most of southern Somalia by dint of its military might and imposition of strict sharia law.
Washington and what it considers to be its top counter-terrorism ally in the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia, say the SICC is led by an al-Qaeda cell, which the military-religious movement denies. The SICC says it has the popular support the government lacks, bringing law and order to a nation convulsed with anarchy since dictator Mohamed Siad Barre was ousted in 1991.
The SICC said Ethiopian troops were moving by air and ground toward Galkaayo, a strategic central Somali town held as a forward defence base by government-allied Puntland fighters. "We hope fighting will simultaneously start there too. We call upon the Somalis to rise up and join in the jihad," SICC Secretary Ibrahim Suley told reporters. Ethiopia and Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf, a Puntland native, are keen to keep the relatively stable, semi-autonomous Puntland region and its strategic ports out of SICC hands.
A Puntland fighter said by telephone from near Galkaayo: "There is a lot of troop movement. From the way things are going, fighting can start any time."
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Ethiopia and Somali President Abdullahi Yusuf, a Puntland native, are keen to keep the relatively stable, semi-autonomous Puntland region and its strategic ports out of SICC SICK hands.
(SomaliNet) SomaliNet received gruesome images of dozens of dead Islamic Courts fighters lying on the ground somewhere between the town of Buurhakaba and Baidao.
The pictures show young as well as fully bearded grown men all succumbed to injuries sustained during todays fierce fight between the interim government and the Islamic Courts. The area is now controlled by the government.
The pictures show young as well as fully bearded grown men all succumbed to injuries sustained during todays fierce fight between the interim government and the Islamic Courts. The area is now controlled by the government.
Todays official word from the Islamists was twenty martyred in the past two days and sixty wounded from all three fronts. Either information on this group of dead Islamic Courts fighters did not reach Mogadishu yet or they downplayed it on purpose for propaganda reasons. It is the first time the courts met with stiff and damaging resistance since the start of their conquest to conquer all Somalia. Although the interim government is denying the popular belief is that professional members of Ethiopian army are fighting along government forces. The images we have came from a neutral third party that has no affiliation with either side of the conflict.
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Ethiopians gave the Italians more than they could handle 70 years ago - and Mussolini's fascists were probably more formidable than Somali militias. We'll see how well those fighting abilities have carried down the generations. Of course if they whip some serious Islamic Court butt using combined air & artillery support I'm going to be suspicious they are getting some proficient 'advice' from somewhere.
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The last time the Ethiopians and Somalis went at it, they were both equipped by the Soviet Union. The Ethiopians did badly at first but finished very strongly. And that was when Somalia had an actual trained army. This time, the Ethiopian Army is up against human wave style assaults, and will inflict the requisite causalties on the fundies.
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Daveed Gartenstein-Ross (Counterterrorismblog.org) says:
"military intelligence source with whom I spoke believes that the ICU's early attacks on Baidoa -- which got beaten back -- were not intended to take the city, but instead were feint operations designed to make the transitional government and its Ethiopian allies overconfident, and perhaps cause them to advance from their fortified positions. If he is correct that these were feint operations (and this source has been extremely reliable in the past), then the ICU succeeded in driving up the the TFG's confidence."
Time will tell.
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I'm going to be suspicious they are getting some proficient 'advice' from somewhere.
It'd be about time; the ICU has had 'advisors' for a while.
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross: ...feint operations designed to make the transitional government and its Ethiopian allies overconfident, and perhaps cause them to advance from their fortified positions.
If that is the case, then whatever "proficient advice" is there will likely act as a damper.
(SomaliNet) Rebels in Sudan's western Darfur region said on Friday they had downed two helicopters and killed 13 Sudanese officers, and denied that 200 members of their movement had died in a government attack. The group said that in fact
"Government forces and Janjaweed militiamen suffered heavy losses and fled towards the town of Kutum, leaving several dead behind them, including 13 officers of different ranks".
"government forces and Janjaweed militiamen suffered heavy losses and fled towards the town of Kutum, leaving several dead behind them, including 13 officers of different ranks".
On Thursday the Sudanese army said it had killed 200 rebels in repulsing a massive attack by rebels on Kutum in northern Darfur a day earlier, and said four of its soldiers had been killed and 20 wounded in the action. Friday's rebel statement also said the SLM/A had "shot down two military helicopters, destroyed seven military vehicles and seized 13 cars containing military equipment".
The group said that in making its claims, Khartoum wanted to "disguise the series of defeats suffered recently by government forces and the Janjaweed" proxy militia. The SLM/A said that six of its members had been killed in the Kutum operation and 17 were wounded.
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A friend of mine's brother is in "East Africa" working with a local military group as an "advisor". John was SF for 22 years before he retired. Apparently he's with a group of about 30, working as a contractor. I wonder if he's involved in this mess, or working with the Kenyans. I'll bet we never know...
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Please thank him for us for continuing to do the invisible things that mean so much in this war, Old Patriot. So long as we occasionally get to ululate, I'm happy knowing there is so much of which I will forever remain ignorant. In fact, the more there is for me not to know, the happier I'll be! ;-)
(SomaliNet) Somalia interim government insider told SomaliNet that the federal government has signed a conditional protection contract with Ethiopia after the Islamic Courts consolidated power in most southern and central Somalia. Under this protection agreement,
Ethiopia will be involved in all aspects of Somalia governments day to day business as long as its services are needed. Semi-autonomous Puntland is part of the protection agreement and is partially financing the war.
Ethiopia will be involved in all aspects of Somalia governments day to day business as long as its services are needed. Semi-autonomous Puntland is part of the protection agreement and is partially financing the war.
A delegation led by Puntland president visited Baidao earlier this week and met with government officials for talks on many issues including the current situation of the country.
Now, the war with the courts has started and Ethiopian soldiers are dying on the frontline, the stakes are much higher than when the initial deal was reached. Prime Minister Meles Zenawi of Ethiopia is now running the weak Somalia government thats confined in Baidao.
This close ties with Ethiopia gives the Islamic Courts a way to recruit young men since Somalia and Ethiopia have unresolved border issues and fought many wars in the past. The Islamist motto is Ethiopia wants to dominate Somalia so that we never question the vast land and people it annexed after Second World War. However many blame the Islamists for Ethiopias indirect Somalia invasion.
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(SomaliNet) Residents of small towns near Ethiopia-Somalia border have seen columns of Ethiopian tanks and armored vehicles crossing into Somalia to re-enforce troops defending the Islamic Courts bid to overrun Baidao, the interim headquarters of the federal government.
Unusual troop movement is being reported in central Somalia close to Puntlands Galkao main city. The Islamic Courts are saying members of the Ethiopian army with heavy armored vehicles moved very close to one of their outposts. The two sides can see each other with less than 2KM in between and the fight can start any minute. Residents of Galkao confirmed unusual military activates in the area but said no Ethiopian men could be seen in the city.
He said they captured many prisoners most of whom are school children drafted by the courts. He sent condolences to the parents of all under-age boys who were killed while fighting for the islamists.
Interim government spokesman in Baidao said, they surrounded remnants of the defeated Islamic Courts fighters near Safar Noles village, close to Dinsor town. He said they captured many prisoners most of whom are school children drafted by the courts. He sent condolences to the parents of all under-age boys who were killed while fighting for the islamists.
Contrary to Baidao claim, the
Islamic Courts spokesman in Mogadishu said they have the upper hand and are holding tight their ground while inching toward Biadao. He said they killed over 200 Ethiopian soldiers and will allow the media to see their bodies soon.
Islamic Courts spokesman in Mogadishu said they have the upper hand and are holding tight their ground while inching toward Biadao. He said they killed over 200 Ethiopian soldiers and will allow the media to see their bodies soon. SomaliNet spoke with a woman in Dinsor who said the town is under Islamic Courts hand and many dead and wounded are arriving. She said three bodies have already been buried today.
Thousands of people are fleeing their homes in all parts of Bay province. Nobody knows where the next front will be and many are not taking chances. The Islamic Courts called the world today to stop the war and convince Ethiopia to leave Somalia and said the consequence will be catastrophic and wider conflict. They threatened to attack inside Ethiopia.
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He said they killed over 200 Ethiopian soldiers and will allow the media to see their bodies soon
...it's gonna take time to get Islamic Court bodies into those Ethiopian uniforms.
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Transitional Federal Government of Somali Republic
Ministry of Information
PRESS RELEASE
Friday 22 Dec, 2006
Baidoa
Today, Friday 22 Dec, 2006 at about 11:45a.m , Militia forces consisting of Al-shabab Units of the UIC, Eritrean forces , Oromo and Jihadists from Pakistan, Sudan and other foreign countries launched attacks on the forces of the Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) based at Dinsor areas , 120km south of Baidoa . After fierce fighting between the two sides in which all types of weapons were exchanged, the government forces defeated the attackers.
The fighting of today at the Dinsor front came after the government forces inflicted heavy casualties on the ICU militias in the last two days. According to the Ministry of Defense, more than 60% of their armored vehicles were either burnt or destroyed.
At Bur-Hakabo zone, the ICU forces were heavily defeated in their seven attacks against the TFG forces.
An ICU militia member taken prisoner this morning at the Dinsor front, named Aden Abdullahi Mohamed, gave detailed information with regards to their capture.
He said that all the top officials of their unit were killed in the fighting. He said No officials remained to command the battle and we therefore surrendered. He added that six foreigners have committed suicide fearing being taken prisoner.
He said that all the top officials of their unit were killed in the fighting. He said No officials remained to command the battle and we therefore surrendered. He added that six foreigners have committed suicide fearing being taken prisoner.
The latest information received from the National Military intelligence at Bur-Hakabo Area stated that 500 strong Eritrean unit equipped with artillery and other heavy weapons were reinforced to the arc of Bur-Hakabo zone.
The TFG expresses its profound sorrow of the continuing conflict and bloodshed caused by the extremist leadership of the ICU. The TFG, therefore, calls on all Somalis to prevent their youngsters and children in joining this unjust war and any acts of terror. In this regard the Somali Government is sending its deep condolence to the bereaved families of the youth and children who lost their lives during the fighting.
The Transitional Federal Government appeals to the international community to stop the influx of foreign terrorists into Somalia who are threatening the stability of both Somalia and the region.
Ministry of Information
Transitional Federal Government
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I like hearing the Pak, Yemeni, Saoodi, etc jihadi prisoners are committing suicide. Don't take any alive, and put their tiny little heads on pikes as a warning
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The reason that the foreigners would commit suicide is that in this war, the pliers and blowtorches really are broken out for prisoner interrogation. This is North African tribal fighting at its best, and God help those who get captured if their captors think that they have any valuable information.
A court handed death sentences to two Moroccans arrested last year on suspicion of helping organise suicide attacks in 2003 that killed 45 people in Casablanca, lawyers said on Friday. Youssef Addad and Abdelmalek Bouizakarne were found guilty of threatening lives, possession of explosives and forming a criminal band with the aim of preparing terrorist acts.
Thirteen others were handed prison sentences ranging from five to 30 years. Relatives wept when the verdicts were read out at the court in Sale near the capital Rabat.
The defendants cried "God is greatest" and "I place my fate in God's hands", according to eyewitnesses.
The defendants cried "God is greatest" and "I place my fate in God's hands", according to eyewitnesses.
The government said the Casablanca suicide bombings were carried out by disaffected youths from grindingly poor neighbourhoods on the fringes of the city who had been brainwashed by Islamic extremists. More than 3,000 people have been arrested since the attacks on suspicion of terrorist activity. Many were released but hundreds were jailed after trials.
According to the authorities, Addad was the head of a radical Islamist group named As-sirat Almoustakim (The Straight Path). But his defence lawyer, Mohamed Ben Sahraoui, said the sentences handed out on Friday were unfair. "There is no proof from the courts of their guilt," Sahraoui said. "If they have explosives they must be produced ... The court didn't even ask for witnesses." He said the defendants' statements had been extracted from them by force.
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(Xinhua) -- Mounir al-Motassadeq, who was to be convicted for involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, has filed an appeal to Germany's highest court against his upcoming sentencing hearing, court officials said on Friday.
The lawyer for Motassadeq, who is in a remand jail in the northern city of Hamburg, sent the appeal to the German Constitutional Court in Karlsruhe, according to a report by the German news agency DPA.
Last month, a court in Hamburg convicted Motassadeq of being a member of a terrorist cell and added a conviction of being an accessory to murder and a hearing has been scheduled for next month to consider increasing Motassadeq's current seven-year jail sentence.
Motassadeq, who first came to Germany in 1993 and moved to Hamburg in 1995, where he studied electrical engineering in college, was convicted in Germany of over 3,000 counts of accessory to murder and of direct relation to the September 11 attacks, but the conviction was rejected on appeal.
On February 7, 2006, Germany's Federal Constitutional Court ordered an early release of Motassadeq. The highest court of Germany ruled there was an absence of proof that Motassadeq was informed about the September 11 terrorist plot.
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9/11 done by Jews
Writing in daily Khabrain, Dr Israr Ahamd stated that we are facing discord and hypocrisy at the personal and national level. We lie, dont keep our words and we are involved in corruption. At the national level, we are victims of hypocrisy and for this we had to face the wrath of God in 1971 in the form of defeat by Hindus who were ruled by Muslims for one thousand years. At the international level, Jews with the help of neocons want to break our nuclear arm and throw us in front of India as a slave. September 11 was the work of Jews. They used the powerful media under their control to turn it against Al Qaeda, which the world didnt know about before. I heard the name of Al Qaeda from the mouth of GW Bush, otherwise I was completely ignorant of this organisation.
Police investigation, Pakistani style
As reported in daily Express, recently released British resident Mirza Tahir said he was beaten and harassed in Pakistani jail. Talking to a British newspaper, 36 year old Tahir said that the taxi driver Jamshed Khan tried to sexually assault him and he fired a gun to defend himself. Instead of escaping, he went to a police station and reported the incident. Police started beating him mercilessly and kept asking him about the other members of his gang.
Dacoits snatch policemans car near station
According to Daily Pakistan, unknown dacoits snatched the car of the SHO of Model Town police, Omar Rashid Butt, at gunpoint, just a few yards from his own police station. The SHO registered his case against car snatching at his own police station against the unknown dacoits.
Father of Pakistani journalism
As reported in daily Pakistan, the father of journalism, Maulana Zafar Ali Khan, was a staunch Muslim who served the Muslim cause by printing Zamindar for 50 years from Lahore. During the welcome of King George V in the Red Fort in Delhi, a majority of the ulema were standing in long lines. When the time for prayer came close, Maulana announced the unity and greatness of God and said azan for prayers, and then spread his coat on the lawns of the Red Fort and offered his prayers.
Hyenas of establishment
Quoted in daily Express, allegedly from the BBC website, wildlife films show a tiger or hyenas stalking thousands of bulls. The hunters separate a weak and young bull to attack him. The mother resists for some time and then joins the herd watching from a distance. The BBC said the hyena of the Pakistani establishment is constantly taking its prey from the Pakistani herd. People were arrested before but now they are disappearing with regularity. The hyenas of the establishment know that thousand of civil society members are only united like the bulls of a herd. Whenever a journalist disappears, only the relevant organisation or newspaper makes noise for some days and then it keeps quite.
Ulema to decide about WPA
As reported in daily Nawa-i-Waqt, the leader of Jamiat Ulema Islam, Maulana Ghafoor Haideri, said that Chaudhry Shujaat shall answer whether the Islamic verdict about Women Bill would be decided by the likes of Mehnaz Rafi, Kashmala Tariq, Sumera Malik or ulema karam (clerical scholars). He said the statements of Qazi Hussain Ahmad are printed as challenges but we talk about facts. The leaders of Jamaat Islami issue their statements from their party level instead of from the platform of Mutahidda Majlis-e-Amal.
No entertainment in province of the pious
As reported in daily Khabrain, Peshawar High court justice Dost Mohammad Khan said that a circus shall be installed in Punjab instead of the NWFP. A writ petition was filed in Peshawar High Court for permission to put a circus in Pakistan International Park in Pabbi. The learned judge said after the passing of Hasbah Bill, now the hasbah force will have sticks (danday) and the MMA government is against these activities. So this circus shall be organised in Punjab, as the situation has changed in NWFP after the Dargai suicide bomb attack. There is danger of another attack at such crowded places.
Maulanas not qualified
Writing in daily Express, Asar Chauhan stated that Allama Iqbal accepted the ijtehad (to find religious solution to a problem) of parliament by the votes of common man. Maulanas of every sect consider the right of ijtehad exclusively for themselves. In the parliament there were individuals who were more learned than the maulanas in Sharia and in legislations. They knew about the religions of the world and other issues of humanity. On this basis, the claim of MMA of sole authority on religious issues cant be accepted. Maulana Maudoodi first claimed the existing electoral system was un-Islamic. They did ijtehad and then participated in 1971 elections and got only four seats. Again, Maulana Maudoodi said Islam cant be imposed in Pakistan through elections.
Rameses II locks on sale on internet!
Sarerahe wrote in daily Nawa-i-Waqt that a French national was arrested when he tried to sell the locks of hair of a Pharaoh (Rameses II) on internet. The father of the French citizen was a doctor who did surgery on the mummified body of Rameses II. He pulled out a lock of Rameses hair. That is how the west has developed their heritage. The Pharoah was unlucky as when he was alive Moses pulled his beard and when he died, the French stole locks of his head. It is the favourate hobby of western countries. They do it in a different style. Today the pharaohs should take lesson from the ill treatment of Rameses II. The Pharaoh killed the sons of Egypt but the modern pharaohs are killing the sons of Muslims.
Internet love in Waziristan
According to daily Khabrain, in Bannu district near Waziristan agency, a young man, Aman ullah, started friendship with a Canadian woman, Sharon, on internet, which soon blossomed into true love. She came to Pakistan and accepted Islam because of her love and was named Fatima. The internet love reached its logical conclusion of marriage. She spent two weeks in Waziristan and then left for Canada with her old mother. Her husband would soon follow her to live in Canada. She was impressed with local customs and said the inhabitants of Waziristan are peace loving, contrary to the assertions of western world.
Holy war on internet
According to daily Nawa-i-Waqt, the Al Qaeda group in Iraq, in a statement on the internet has said that Pope Benedicts tour of Turkey is part of a crusade. The statement said that the crusaders are now preaching in Turkey after their defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan and the visit of Pope is part of that policy.
Rulers divided, opposition united
As reported in Daily Pakistan, the Pakistan Peoples Party leaders on the 39th anniversary of the party, claimed that the ruling government is divided and wont last longer than 10 days. When secretary general Ghulam Abbas came on stage to deliver his speech, the jiyalas (party workers) started fighting each other and pandemonium spread thoughout the crowd gathered in a ground. At the end of the convention the stage collapsed and all the leaders fell on each other. They included Shah Mahmood Qureshi, Qasim Zia and others.
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She spent two weeks in Waziristan and then left for Canada with her old mother. Her husband would soon follow her to live in Canada. She was impressed with local customs and said the inhabitants of Waziristan are peace loving, contrary to the assertions of western world.
Awwwwwwwwwwww...isn't that romantic.
Hope Aman isn't disappointed when he finds out that acid isn't as readily available over here as it is over there.
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"ltlejew", I'd imagine those Israeli weapons may be open to close inspection for a few nanoseconds upon their arrival in Tehran, Mecca, Medina, Damascus
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Is there a nation more focused on hatred and bigotry than Pakistan?
OK, maybe the Saudis.
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"ltlejew" is posting from El Lay (IP: 67.100.252.52) and has posted under the following nyms in the past, going back to May, 2004:
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BRING THEM HOME
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I'd say this fucktard deserves to be permanently banned.
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and such excellent spelling. Looks like dickhead was bonking his head memorizing the koran in a Madrassah when he should've taken spelling/grammar..totally embarrassing
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Quite likely, Shipman. The Indians from the Indian subcontinent tend to be much better educated. Rather embarassing, actually, for the Lions of Islam from that part of the world.
Two civilians were killed and four soldiers wounded Friday in a gunbattle between Islamic militants and security forces in the Indian-controlled part of Kashmir, police said. The clash started when the militants fired on an army convoy driving through the town of Sopore, 50 kilometers north of the area's capital, Srinagar, said police officer Imtyaz Hussain. Two civilians were caught in the crossfire and killed, he said, adding that four soldiers and another three civilians were wounded.
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BAGHDAD, Dec. 22 As the United States debates what to do in Iraq, this countrys Shiite majority has been moving toward its own solution: making the capital its own.
Large portions of Baghdad have become Shiite in recent months, as militias press their fight against Sunni militants deeper into the heart of the capital, displacing thousands of Sunni residents. At least 10 neighborhoods that a year ago were mixed Sunni and Shiite are now almost entirely Shiite, according to residents, American and Iraqi military commanders and local officials.
For the first years of the war, Sunni militants were dominant, forcing Shiites out of neighborhoods and systematically killing bakers, barbers and trash collectors, who were often Shiites. But starting in February, after the bombing of a shrine in the city of Samarra, Shiite militias began to strike back, pushing west from their strongholds and redrawing the sectarian map of the capital, home to a quarter of Iraqs population.
The Shiite-dominated government publicly condemns violence against Sunnis and says it is trying to stop the militias that carry it out. But the attacks have continued unabated, and Sunnis have grown suspicious.
Plans for a new bridge that would bypass a violent Sunni area in the east, and a proposal for land handouts in towns around Baghdad that would bring Shiites into what are now Sunni strongholds underscored these concerns.
Sunni political control in Baghdad is all but nonexistent: Of the 51 members of the Baghdad Provincial Council, which runs the citys services, just one is Sunni.
In many ways, the changes are a natural development. Shiites, a majority of Iraqs population, were locked out of the ruling elite under Saddam Hussein and now have power that matches their numbers.
The danger, voiced by Sunni Arabs, is that an emboldened militant fringe will conduct broader killings without being stopped by the government, or, some fear, with its help. That could, in turn, draw Sunni countries into the fight and lead to a protracted regional war, precisely the outcome that Americans most fear. They say theyre against this, but on the ground they do nothing, said Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, the speaker of Parliament, a Sunni. He moved his family to the better-protected Green Zone in October.
The debate reaches to the heart of the American enterprise here. While President Bush is considering more troops, some in the Shiite-dominated government say the Americans should stay out of the sectarian fight in Baghdad and let the battle run its course. Getting involved would simply prolong the fight, they say.
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a protracted regional war, precisely the outcome that Americans most fear.
Fear is a strong word here. Perhaps "would feel bad about" or "would be disappointed to see" would be more like it. We'd like the Iraqis to live in peace with their brothers and semi-coreligionists, and Lord knows we've given them every opportunity to demonstrate the grandeur of Arab civilization, and while peace would surely be in America's interest, it's not quite right to say Americans fear a regional war. The protracted regional war in the Balkins was grotesque and appalling but I don't recall feeling afraid. I was much more worried about Saddam putting an exotic bomb in a shipping container or anthrax in a diplomatic pouch than I am about whether Shiites and Sunnis achieve the harmony of Allah.
So where does the NYT get its declaration that Americans fear "precisely" this outcome? They made it up. The reporter is alarmed, so Americans must be alarmed. Eventually, after considerable bloodshed and American intervention, the Balkans sorted out the business of becoming independent states with more or less palatable political cultures. Maybe a real war in which armed groups confront each other instead of blowing up kids and grannies as ethnic proxies would lead to a reorganization of a dysfunctional nation system in the Arab world. I'm not advocaing violence, just saying that I'm less afraid of Arabs killing each other to establish a political order acceptable to more of them than I am of Arabs sublimating their problems onto the Western world and trying to kill us for publishing cartoons and not hating Jews as much as they do. All of which is just my way of saying I think the NYT is wrong.
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Awww, the poor Sunis, payback's a bitch isn't it?
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How much of the Shiite advance is due to Sunnis relocating to unmixed commuminities or going into exile en masse?
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Baba Tutu -- I think the NYT is referring to State Dept "fears" -- which of course speaks for all of us. Me, I kinda like the idea of ethnic cleansing, but how can you clean crap w/ vomit?
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And the Kurds are pushing the Sunni out of Kirkuk too. Payback's a b*tch.
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Bah. my heart bleeds not a drop, no, not a corpuscle, for these people. Redneck Jim's remark is pertinent: there is nothing in the Koran forbidding revenge. There is not a verse counseling any kind consideration of their enemies. Jesus said to love your enemies. The Mosaic law required that you help the overburdened pack animal of your enemy, and return lost livestock to him. Anything like that in the Koran? In the hadiths?
This is the way they settle things between themselves in Islam, and we should be PC enough in this case to let them go to it.
The NYT represents a minority that claws its way to power by hook or by crook. To them, the whold world is a morality play in which they are the stars, the script writer, and the director. A power-hungry minority getting their just desserts from those they terrorized, suppressed, and oppressed is not in THEIR script! They rightly fear a play of that script here, when the suppressed majority in our country may just well decide to rise up and put these elitists where they belong.
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This goes to the "worst case scenario", which is basically, "Sunnis lose. Sunnis leave." Not what I would call a major dilemma for the West.
In fact, it would be a major boon to Jordan, in which the native bedouin Jordanians are far outnumbered by the Palestinians. The Iraqi Sunnis would help balance out Jordan and support the government.
Even Iraqi Sunnis heading to Saudi is not necessarily a bad thing. The Iraqis are "urbane and sophisticated" compared to the Saudi goat herders in the rural areas, and would do a lot to liberalize the politics of the country.
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This goes to the "worst case scenario", which is basically, "Sunnis lose. Sunnis leave." Not what I would call a major dilemma for the West.
The cleansing of Silesia and the Sudetenland of Germans in 1945-7 wasn't a dilemma for the West either. They lost. They left. So why care now except to play petty games of power?
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And a quick question. If the sunnis are forced to leave Iraq by force of arms will they go to the merry kingdom and setup refugee camps and commence to seethe for the next 50 years or so? And who pays?
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If Baghdad goes Shiite, then Ayatollah puppets will have no Sunni opposition to the control of the Delta and border oil patch. Further, the huge Kurd oil pocket will be held in Shiite - If not Iranian - captivity.
I would expect that Shiites would leave most of the Sunni Triangle in tact, having secured control of Iraq's national wealth. Resource leverage would force Sunnis to sue for peace. Rich Shiites - and Shiites breed like flies - would join Iran in putting pressure on the Saud oil patch, most of which is in Shiite majority lands.
If President Bush resists - and I do not believe he will - Israeli pressure to destroy Shiite power, then Americans are being set up for a future ICBM threat to the US Homeland.
I do not believe reports that the President is going to "stay the course" and support the sham Shiite "democracy" in Iraq, in order to save face. The President didn't face an Iranian threat to US interests when he declared "pre-emption" to be US security doctrine, in his May 2002 speech at West Point. Fact: the US has had mutually beneficial relations with fundamentalist Sunni regimes in the Middle East; the US has never has good relations with a Shiite cleric based regime.
One ethnic group in Iraq must dominate. As the map attachment reveals, unless Shiite aggression is halted in Baghdad, the US will suffer a catastrophic foreign policy defeat. Salt in the wounds of said catastrophe, will be the fact that: it was preventable.
Either you want Islamofascists to vote, or you want them to die. The Middle East Democratic Initiative did not work because it is a projection of Western values onto a savage people. Let's try something else.
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Excellent comments here, stealing most of what would have been my thunder (except for the de rigeur worries about Shi'ite domination, Iranian control, blah blah blah - which are not in touch with Iranian or Iraqi reality, in the least).
One telling point that no one's commented on, but which is critical and which I've emphasized to some college classes I've spoken to - with sometimes dramatic results - is the article's framing of the Shi'a offensive as a response, after years of Sunni attacks. This is of course exactly what's been going on. The US (when it was opening its mouth at all, which has been scandalously rare) and the media have never to my knowledge described things this way - that is, accurately in a way that explains what Iraqis are thinking and going through - until this oblique reference.
Literally years of barbarous terrorism against Shi'a, either committed, tolerate, or abetted by Sunnis in Iraq along with their foreign guests, was the story. It is the key failing of MNF-I and CENTCOM, Casey and Abizaid. They and much (though not all) of their commands somehow believed that ponderously working through a slow transition/training process, while securing a few landmark electoral events, was an adequate response to the relelentless terror war launched against Shi'a (and "the American enterprise in Iraq"). Astounding. And this isn't hindsight. Exactly these sentiments were expressed, sometimes directly to MNF-I staff officers, over the past two years. Response: usually some flustered and arrogant dismissal, with comments about not understanding counter-insurgency.
Like the other RB'ers here, I'm not that afraid of an intensified sectarian conflict (though I even doubt the chances of regionalization - beyond what is already going on - are that great). But I'm sick about what seems an utter lack of realism among key military officers (and of course their civilian overlords, who've been lapping up this obviously bad soup for years now) about what's been needed in Iraq.
What keen insight into Iraqi society, or "counter-insurgency" (I use sneer quotes because I think the whole concept and field of study are 90% b.s.) did it take to realize that a relentless war of barbarous terrorism against one side (which had already been long-suffering in the previous historical era) would, EVENTUALLY, lead to a reaction? The Shi'a, with Sistani's help, showed near-Herculean forebearance for the longest time. The oxygen that Tater's boys and kindred groups survive on - aside from the usual mix of local gangster dynamics, illicit businesses, and young male bravado - is precisely the need for protection from the Sunni rampage that MNF-I never stooped to shut down.
Let's see - travel restrictions, moving populations, harsh offensive actions - yep, exactly the sort of thing that's worked in, oh, every single war ever fought by humans on Earth. But WE had a better idea. You know, integrated actions, creating employment, sipping tea with sheikhs. MNF-I has placed the horse firmly behind the cart on this stuff - while thinking that they were placing them alongside one another (another arrangement that wouldn't work!).
Funny, the old nostrums seem to apply to Iraq as well - wars have consequences, and they only end with someone loses.
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This is not worst case. Worst case would be a night of the long knives, a Rwanda massacre, in which all the Sunnis to the smallest babe in arms would be murdered by those they'd helped Saddam Hussein oppress for two generations. I'm not crying over this, either.
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Verlaine,
That's a great post. And explains things accurately. Everytime Rice opens her stupid trap about all people wanting to live happily in a free democratic society makes me want to upchuck. It demonstates the abject stupidity and lack of grasp of the historical perspective of this area and its"peoples". I use peoples advisedly, because this group really doesn't function like any other group of logical humans. Everything in their life existence is geared to revenge, no matter that it means their own death. Our typical understanding simply does not fathom this. I also believe, however, that some in DC did comprehend this, but blew it aside in the very desperate bid to get Iraq oil production ratcheted up so that other players in the region could be properly dealt with. And, they were/are perfectly happy to spend the blood and treasure of fellow Americans to accomplish this.
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In part, the problem here is that people are working from a deep ignorance of history or an invented Marxist inspired history.
Ethnic cleansing was instrumental in creating large parts of the modern world. In particular, it was instrumental in creating nation states out of the Ottoman empire. In Greece and Bulgaria (and too a large extent Turkey itself) it happened in the 1910/20s when several million people were moved including a million 'Greeks' from Turkey. In other parts of the Ottoman empire like Kosovo (and parts of the AH empire) it had to wait till the 1990s. In Iraq it's happening in the 2000s.
Ethnic cleansing is not only inevitable, it's a good thing, because it's the only route to stable succesful (and democratic) nation states.
BTW, the League of Nations and the Liberal establishment at the time indulged in much hand-wringing at the Greece/Turkey ethnic cleansing in the 1920s.
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A power-hungry minority getting their just desserts from those they terrorized, suppressed, and oppressed is not in THEIR script! They rightly fear a play of that script here, when the suppressed majority in our country may just well decide to rise up and put these elitists where they belong.
Which, in an odd way, was what I was trying to explain over in the Bashir thread about why world leaders have such a phobia about offing other figureheads and heads of state, like Mugabe or Bashir.
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While Clinton was mau-mauing about "ethnic cleansing" by Serbs, Bosnian and Kosovan Muslims were prepping for their own cleansing. A couple of days into the Clinton war against Serbs, a Serb neighbor - an electrical engineer - told me: "Clinton talks about ethnic cleansing; if the Muslims take over Kosovo, they will push out Serbs and destroy monasteries that are part of Serb culture." What happened? All the monasteries have been either destroyed, wrecked or turned over to Muslim use. NATO sat by and watched this while standing between the dwindling Serb population and the over-breeding Muslim hordes. Church construction is outlawed in both Kosovo and Bosnia (where several hundred US troops assist nation-building savagery).
If there was a shred of evidence that the Koranimals could be domocratized, then I might support that. Rather, they use democracies to put aggressive warlords into office. Let's kill terrorists first, then think of phase 2.
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - Assailants fired on the car of a senior Palestinian security official Saturday, wounding him, a bodyguard and a girl in intensifying factional fighting in the Gaza Strip.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility for Saturday's drive-by shooting in the southern Gaza town of Rafah. The target, Hassan Jarbouh, is the deputy chief of the Rafah branch of the Preventive Security Service, which is loyal to Abbas.
Jarbouh was in critical condition. His bodyguard and the girl, a bystander, suffered moderate wounds.
Rival Palestinians traded gunfire Friday in the occupied West Bank on Friday, wounding at least nine civilians and underscoring the fragility of a new truce between Hamas and Fatah. In other sign of tension between the two factions, the office of President Mahmoud Abbas blocked five major Hamas appointments to senior government positions.
Witnesses said gunmen opened fire as thousands of Hamas activists and militants attended a rally in the West Bank city of Nablus.
It was the worst violence in the West Bank since Abbas last week threw down the gauntlet to the government by calling for fresh parliamentary and presidential elections. Days of violence earlier this week in the Gaza Strip killed 10 people.
A senior security source said Abbas had deployed Palestinian security forces loyal to him to try to calm tensions in Nablus. A Fatah official said Hamas chose to hold the rally despite what he said was an earlier agreement to delay it. "The friction was already there," the official told Reuters. "Now the two sides are shooting at each other."
The nine people wounded were civilians, witnesses and hospital officials said.
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(SomaliNet) The Jordanian of Palestinian origin who shot dead a British tourist in Amman's Roman amphitheatre in September was sentenced to death by a Jordanian military court Thursday.
Nabeel Ahmed Issa al-Jaourah responded: "I am a holy warrior and I thank God for this verdict."
Nabeel Ahmed Issa al-Jaourah, 38, who killed Christopher Stokes in the pistol attack and wounded five other Westerners and a Jordanian police officer, responded: "I am a holy warrior and I thank God for this verdict."
The judge, who cannot be named under Jordanian regulations, told the defendant: "You deserve to die for your hideous crime." Jaourah had originally pleaded not guilty. But prosecutors said after the verdict that he had since confessed and urged the court "to hand him the harshest punishment".
Prosecutors have said Jaourah was acting alone in the 4 September shooting, and had no terrorist links.
In an earlier hearing, Jaourah said that he received God's "blessing when I killed a British man and hurt others, because they are fighting the Prophet and his soldiers since [the] Balfour declaration", a reference to the 1917 document by the British government promising support for a Jewish homeland.
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Nabeel Ahmed Issa al-Jaourah responded: "I am a holy warrior and I thank God for this verdict."
So do we, you might consider that so far NO muslim has ever been heard from , or caused any trouble whatsoever after "Ascending to Paradise".
Good riddance. (PS, I don't think that word "Paradise" means what you think it means)
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Israel Defense Forces soldiers operating in the West Bank overnight arrested 11 Palestinian fugitives, Army Radio reported. Eight Hamas members were captured in the vicinity of Hebron, according to the report. No soldiers were injured in the course of the counter-terror operations, the army said.
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IDF troops manning the Hawara checkpoint near Nablus found seven improvised hand grenades, an improvised pistol and one kilogram of explosives on a Palestinian who had aroused the soldier's suspicion. Border Police sappers at the scene detonated the explosives, while the Palestinian was transferred to the security services for further questioning.
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(Xinhua) -- At least three people were hurt during clashes between gunmen from Fatah and Hamas in the West Bank city of Nablus Friday morning, Palestinian officials said. Witnesses said that gunmen loyal to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas opened fire on Hamas members, wounding at least three people, and at least one of the wounded was said to be in a very serious condition.
They said about 200 Hamas activists and armed men were preparing for a rally in the downtown of Nablus when Fatah gunmen shot at them. There was no immediate comment from Fatah. Abbas has issued orders to security personnel to be deployed in the streets of Nablus to prevent further confrontations.
Violence between the rival factions has erupted since Abbas called for early elections last Saturday, leaving scores of people dead and wounded. Gunmen from both sides agreed on a cease-fire in Gaza Strip on midnight of Dec. 17 after two days heavy clashes. However, a series of gun battles between the two sides still broke out after the cease-fire, which was brokered by Egyptian mediators and other Palestinian factions. Abbas and Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haneya of Hamas have called for restraint from both sides, ordering armed men to evacuate from Gaza streets.
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Well, as long as the ceasefire is still holding. Or was it the truce?
Two Kassam rockets were fired from northern Gaza Friday evening.
The attacks raised the number of Kassams fired at Israel Friday to four.
One of the rockets landed in a residential neighborhood in Sderot, where one person sustained wounds from shattered glass and damage was caused to a building. The second Kassam landed a short while earlier in a Negev kibbutz. Witnesses at the scene reported that while no one was wounded, windows of some of the homes were blown out as a result of the blast.
The attacks raised the number of Kassams fired at Israel Friday to four. One rocket landed in an open field in the western Negev, causing no damage. In the morning hours a Kassam landed just outside Sderot. No one was wounded and no damage was reported in the incident.
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Seems like a rather assymmetric cease fire to me.
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Olmert MUST go. Israel needs to take 'disproportionate' action against the paleostains. Destroy every building in Gaza, cut off all power and water, and seal the border tight. Every time a Kassam or any other type of attack is launched from Gaza, destroy another neighborhood. Use artillery so no Israeli lives are put in jeopardy. If Jimmah Kahtah, the unacknowledges sheik of Rafah, opens his piehole, the Mossad should shoot him somewhere permanently disabling but not deadly, so he'll have to worry about his health from now on, instead of the "plight" of the paleostains.
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Jihadis likely to step up attacks over the New Year
A female teacher who went into a coma after being shot in the head by suspected Muslim militants in Pattani on Thursday was pronounced dead yesterday, as the government beefed up security amid growing fears of major attacks during the holiday season.
Chutima Rattanasamnieng, teacher of Ban Takae School in Yarang district, was pronounced dead shortly after midnight at Prince Songkhla Hospital in Songkhla province. Chutima and her colleague Rungnapa Kongsuwan were riding a motorcycle to their school on Thursday morning when militants on a motorcycle opened fire at them. Both women were shot in the head.
Chutima had a bullet lodged in her brain that doctors were unable to remove the bullet. She became the 61st teacher to be killed in past three years of violence in the deep South. Chutima's relatives said she had been threatened by the militants who called her on her mobile phone and ordered her to leave the area or they would not be able to "guarantee her safety". Rungnapa remains in a coma. She was shot in the jaw and neck. Doctors have operated to save her life but are not sure she will be able to speak again.
Meanwhile, Thai security agencies went on high alert in the three southernmost provinces amid intelligence reports that militants were planning major attacks during the New Year celebrations. "Plans have been prepared to counter the expected attacks in several areas by the insurgents during or after the festival," Prime Minister Surayud Chulanont said.
Security agencies said January 4 marked the third anniversary of a major raid on an armoury in which militants made off with more than 300 MI6 rifles. The incident was a major humiliation for the government of then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who could no longer deny the political underpinnings of the incident and began to officially acknowledge that a new generation of Malay separatists had surfaced.
"We should not underestimate the opponent. We have to be prepared," Surayud said yesterday. He compared the conflict to boxing, saying the fight is still far from over but that "we are evaluating our fighters as the fight continues." "If I owned a boxing club, of course, I'd want to win," added Surayud.
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The Buddhists ought to return the favor the next muslim flagellation festival.
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If the Buddhists want to survive they need to transition rapidly to the stack and incinerate mode. When they remove around 10,000 of these pests from their midst permanently and publicly they may enjoy another 50 years of peace. Otherwise, they should prepare to submit.
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Gee Scooter, shouldn't we start a dialog with them ? Perhaps they are angry at us for something like breathing or laughing or singing. I'm sure we could fine common ground...../snark]
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I'm beginning to believe the only solution is to castrate all male muslims. No need to kill them, just keep them from breeding any more baby-killers. Once the disease has run its course and the current generation dies, the world can go back to "normal" behavior, where killings are based on something other than religion.
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IIRC earlier comments by local RB commenters, the targeting of teachers is quite deliberate, it's part of a plan to drive out the buddhist thais by allowing only muslim schooling to remain. This is a "kinder, gentler" ethnic cleasing, that's what it is.
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For every teacher killed, torch a mosque. Preferrably during peak prayer hours. The Thai Buddhists will need to reconsider just how useful pacifist doctrine is in the face of extermination.
Iran has executed three men convicted of participating in a string of deadly bombings in the southwestern city of Ahvaz last year, government newspaper Iran reported on Thursday.
Iran has blamed Britain, which has troops close by in Iraq, for fomenting the instability. Britain denies the charge.
Ahvaz is the capital of Khuzestan, the heartland of Irans oil industry, which has been simmering with unrest among the provinces mostly Arab population for more than a year. Iran has blamed Britain, which has troops close by in Iraq, for fomenting the instability. Britain denies the charge.
The three men hanged on Wednesday had been convicted of placing bombs outside the governors office and a bank. They were among a group of 10 convicted of participating in the bomb attacks, Iran said. Iran hanged two men in Ahvaz in March after they were convicted of a bombing that killed six people last October.
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How could you tell, the ink on the bills is more valuable than the bills themselves, why just the ink from the number of zeroes alone must be worth near 1/10 cent US.
Semi-serious comment, is it worth buying toilet paper, or are the bills cheaper to use directly?
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Bread price triples in Zimbabwe
How much is that in pickles?
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Spent more time visiting troops during World War 2 than any other Hollywood star. She nearly died from malaria she contracted while traveling overseas.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
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A top Taliban military commander described as a close associate of Osama bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar was killed in an airstrike this week close to the border with Pakistan, the U.S. military said Saturday.
Baidoa, Somalia - Ethiopian tanks rolled to the battlefront on Friday as Somali Islamists and Somalia's pro-government troops pounded each other with artillery and rockets in a fourth day of clashes edging closer to all-out war.
(SomaliNet) Rebels in Sudan's western Darfur region said on Friday they had downed two helicopters and killed 13 Sudanese officers, and denied that 200 members of their movement had died in a government attack. The group said that in fact 
(SomaliNet) Residents of small towns near Ethiopia-Somalia border have seen columns of Ethiopian tanks and armored vehicles crossing into Somalia to re-enforce troops defending the Islamic Courts bid to overrun Baidao, the interim headquarters of the federal government. 
Today, Friday 22 Dec, 2006 at about 11:45a.m , Militia forces consisting of Al-shabab Units of the UIC, Eritrean forces , Oromo and Jihadists from Pakistan, Sudan and other foreign countries launched attacks on the forces of the Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) based at Dinsor areas , 120km south of Baidoa . After fierce fighting between the two sides in which all types of weapons were exchanged, the government forces defeated the attackers. 
Thirteen others were handed prison sentences ranging from five to 30 years. Relatives wept when the verdicts were read out at the court in Sale near the capital Rabat. 
(Xinhua) -- Mounir al-Motassadeq, who was to be convicted for involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, has filed an appeal to Germany's highest court against his upcoming sentencing hearing, court officials said on Friday. 
9/11 done by Jews
Two civilians were killed and four soldiers wounded Friday in a gunbattle between Islamic militants and security forces in the Indian-controlled part of Kashmir, police said. The clash started when the militants fired on an army convoy driving through the town of Sopore, 50 kilometers north of the area's capital, Srinagar, said police officer Imtyaz Hussain. Two civilians were caught in the crossfire and killed, he said, adding that four soldiers and another three civilians were wounded.
BAGHDAD, Dec. 22 As the United States debates what to do in Iraq, this countrys Shiite majority has been moving toward its own solution: making the capital its own. 
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) - Assailants fired on the car of a senior Palestinian security official Saturday, wounding him, a bodyguard and a girl in intensifying factional fighting in the Gaza Strip.
Rival Palestinians traded gunfire Friday in the occupied West Bank on Friday, wounding at least nine civilians and underscoring the fragility of a new truce between Hamas and Fatah. In other sign of tension between the two factions, the office of President Mahmoud Abbas blocked five major Hamas appointments to senior government positions. 
(SomaliNet) The Jordanian of Palestinian origin who shot dead a British tourist in Amman's Roman amphitheatre in September was sentenced to death by a Jordanian military court Thursday. 
(Xinhua) -- At least three people were hurt during clashes between gunmen from Fatah and Hamas in the West Bank city of Nablus Friday morning, Palestinian officials said. Witnesses said that gunmen loyal to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas opened fire on Hamas members, wounding at least three people, and at least one of the wounded was said to be in a very serious condition. 
Two Kassam rockets were fired from northern Gaza Friday evening. 
