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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Super Glue Use #647
A "cunning" 14-year-old girl charged with murdering her father escaped from home confinement by removing an electronic monitoring device from her ankle and gluing it to a cat, authorities said. Police were searching for Kayla Marie LaSala, who fled an uncle's house early Saturday, according to Mercer County Prosecuting Attorney Bill Sadler. Kayla faces trial Sept. 7 as an adult on a first-degree murder charge in connection with the Feb. 23 stabbing of her father, Stephen LaSala.
The motive in the killing was unclear, Mercer County sheriff's Sgt. A. D. Beasley said Wednesday. He said she had confessed. "She's very, very sharp. She's cunning," said sheriff's Detective C. T. Lowe.
A cunning runt.........finish the joke yourself

Kayla apparently managed to cut the monitor from her ankle, said Steven Collins, director of the home confinement program and the Day Report Center in Princeton. "It's not something you can just snatch off or take off," he said.
I guess "cutting off" never occured to you, huh?

Removing the device set off an alarm, but Kayla was gone by the time police arrived. "My officer informed me he thought it (the monitoring device) was super-glued on a cat," Collins said. The cat was not hurt, he said.
Just really, really pissed.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2004 1:29:10 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Murder suspect on an ankle bracelet? Nice.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#2  I remember Mad Max had a solution to the problem of being cuffed to an object, but it sounds like this young lass did something else.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2004 14:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Well, that was a cunning stunt.
Posted by: BH || 07/07/2004 14:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Time for Mercer County to start stocking the "junior miss" ankle bracelet sizes.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#5  I've seen one of those home monitoring device thingys. The method of holding it to the ankle was just a riveted plastic strap.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/07/2004 14:30 Comments || Top||

#6  Muckieeeeeeee!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:36 Comments || Top||

#7  i am have plenty say about this but due her age ima refrain.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/07/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#8  At least she didn't hurt the kitty, Mucky.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#9  Superglue conducts electricity.....
Something to keep in mind if they had a wire running through the band.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/07/2004 21:37 Comments || Top||


Warning! Coffee Alert! Warning!
Bangkok - They have been boiled, fed to ducks, even attached to hot air balloons and cast into the night sky - when it comes to permanently depriving a cheating lover of a recently severed penis, the imagination of the wronged Thai woman knows few bounds. Thailand has become the world centre of penis reattachment surgery, but then it has been forced to be. While not unique to the kingdom, penis severing has been honed here to its most devastating effect through a mixture of infidelity, assertive womanhood and a national cuisine that lends itself to a kitchen full of sharp knives.
Ouch!

The men are now fearful of a rash of Thailand's most notorious crime of passion, according to the surgeon who has stitched back many a male member for grateful patients. Sitting in his office at Bangkok's Paolo Memorial Hospital, surgeon Surasak Muangsombot recalled how he re-attached his first phallus in 1978 and soon discovered that penis hacking was a peculiarly Thai form of sexual violence. Since then Sweden has had three cases, the US two - including the notorious case of John Wayne Bobbitt who returned from surgery to star in porn films - and one in Australia. In the same period, Muangsombot's team alone has operated on 33 cases and many more have been reported.
Doctors and psychologists blame the attacks on a mix of Thailand's tradition of polygamy, which was banned about 100 years ago but still persists, and the fact that the phallus is revered as a symbol of power and fertility. The phenomenon has become so widespread that doctors have had to keep up with increasingly inventive and angry wives and lovers who want to prevent the offending item from being reattached.
The latest case was reported on Tuesday when a 29-year-old farmer in northeastern Thailand was admitted to hospital with a severed penis, claiming that his wife kicked him. The couple had fought, she then denied his requests for sex and kicked him when he complained, according to him. Such was the length of her toe nails, she severed his penis.
Now there is a martial arts movie crying out to be made.

Thai psychologist and media commentator Doctor Wallop Piyamanotham said the practice stemmed primarily from the outlawed, but flourishing, Thai habit of keeping secret wives. "Before a man could have many wives but later we followed the western law of one man one wife, but men still act the same and have many wives so the only revenge open to the wife is to cut off his penis," Piyamanotham said.
How about another western legal tradition, like divorce?

Doctor Muangsombot said despite the damage done to patients, the recovery rate is surprisingly high. He said it was now possible to make replacement penises from arteries and skin taken from other parts of the body that could be inflated with pumps, but warned men who insist on being unfaithful to follow a few golden rules. "If you have a mistress they (wives) will get mad and cut it any time, so make her very happy, always carry a thermos to put it in and keep the name of a good doctor close by," he said.
Words to live by
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2004 1:12:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I am reminded of the story of the 2 cops who showed up in the ER after the Bobbitt chop job and were told where she tossed it and to go get it. So they go and find it and, when they bring it back, a nurse asks "Is that it?" To which the cops reply, "We don't know, but it's the only one we found."
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 13:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Gee thanks...I get married in 10 days! Army of Steve - why do you taunt me so?! Oh and two words of advice to the farmer...nail clippers.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/07/2004 13:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Now that's what I call terrorism.
Posted by: Matt || 07/07/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#4  So, evidently it's not just Thai cuisine that has a fiery character to it.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#5  Pretty good article, I'll bet it read even better if I wasn't plagued by loud humming noises and litter star bursts in me eyes...
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:39 Comments || Top||

#6  The couple had fought, she then denied his requests for sex and kicked him when he complained

Sounds familiar :)
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 16:14 Comments || Top||

#7  In 10 days...
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 16:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Ha ha! Thanks .com...the soon to be Mrs Mundi says "Too late!"
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 07/07/2004 17:19 Comments || Top||

#9  Hey .com, that picture wouldn't be from a wedding in Cleveland in '85 would it? Looks mighty familiar.
Posted by: remote man || 07/07/2004 17:27 Comments || Top||

#10  tu3031 - According to some of the rescue squad guys I talked to from that area, the story is true.

Down at my rescue squad, we fell in the floor laughing about that one. Damn, we never get the good calls! :-p
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/07/2004 20:08 Comments || Top||

#11  I really, really hope my girlfriend doesn't read this . . . though I'd be tempted to send her that perfect woman pic as a joke. (Send it seriously and I'd have my ass kicked next time I see her . . .)
Posted by: The Doctor || 07/07/2004 21:50 Comments || Top||

#12  and all sections of the candy store closed....new owner, new management
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 21:53 Comments || Top||


Beware! Bagel Worm is on the loose again
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 08:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Too late -- I already ate my bagel.
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2004 8:40 Comments || Top||

#2  In your best youn Dalai Lama voice from Seven Years in Tibet
"You hurtin' worms?"
"No, please, no hurting the worms."

Mucky'll be pissed at ya, Mike. He's like the Dalai Lama's US Envoy or somethin'. This could get ugly.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 8:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Dammit! I'm on vacation!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 10:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Isn't this a Seinfeld episode or something?
Posted by: MrO || 07/07/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  I thought this had something to do with tequila.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Ther are no worms in Tequila, only Mescal.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 07/07/2004 14:42 Comments || Top||

#7  That Mescal is some hardcore shit.You do realize that it is made from the pads of the Prickly Pear cactus.
Posted by: Raptor || 07/07/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||


Britain
Iranians want to bury their war dead in London
Posted by: rex || 07/07/2004 04:28 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Iranians across Europe told us that they wanted to commemorate those who defended Iran, and they wanted a place to go on Sundays,"

How about back to fuckin' IRAN!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 8:45 Comments || Top||

#2  WTF?

This is so, um, Monty Python-ish...

Oh, they're Muslims. No matter whether you're gonna cave like a souffle in an earthquake, the usual response to Muslim sensitivities, or (as a sane person would hope) tell 'em to bugger off, you'll have to be extra-polite.

Cuz they're Muslims, and everybody knows Muslims be extra-sensitive. Super-extra-sentitive. Heavily hyphenated, they are. And they might seethe, if you're not careful. And we wouldn't want any seething, now would we? Hmmmm?
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 8:51 Comments || Top||

#3  This really does take the piss. Most expatriate Iranians are here in the UK for fear of persecution at home. HILARIOUS!
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/07/2004 9:41 Comments || Top||

#4  Here in the US Iranians are usually exiles from the mad Mullahs, and have engaged in frequent demonstrations against the Islamofascist regime. They also run middle eastern restaurants where you never see fundamentalist dress, and where you can feel safe even talking about Israel. Last one i went to had a charity box for the Student movement (the antigovt group) Also they got that pomegranate juice, before it was fashionable.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/07/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Cuz they're Muslims, and everybody knows Muslims be extra-sensitive. Super-extra-sentitive. Heavily hyphenated, they are. And they might seethe, if you're not careful.

LOL! RantBurg home of MuckSpeak & LuckSpeak!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Is this story a wind-up? One glaring difference is that UK soldiers buried in the UK diplomatic compound in Tehran died on Iranian soil (presumably Post WW1). How many Iranians died on UK soil in the 1980-88 war? Precisely zip. Britain has one of the largest ex-pat communities in the world - how about digging up some anonymous remains from WW1/WW2 and distributing them to our embassies around the Middle East so expats can do something on a Sunday. Daoud Ghiasirad.. said there was nothing unusual in the request Nothing unusual for these culturally domineering Pigfuckers.
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/07/2004 10:22 Comments || Top||

#7  Howard UK, what's a wind-up? A leg puller?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 10:57 Comments || Top||

#8  Aye, of the first order, in this case.
Posted by: Howard UK || 07/07/2004 11:14 Comments || Top||

#9  1. Reject the plan due to "building codes."
2. Counter propose that the martyrs be reburied in the north sea. 3. Authorize paddle boat tours for the entertainment of the Iranian expats.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/07/2004 11:31 Comments || Top||

#10  Use trebuchets to launch pig carcasses in embassy grounds then declare it an infidel holy site.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2004 11:35 Comments || Top||

#11  Hmmm ... a truckload or two of coffins would be a very opportune way to move a large amount of material. Particularly if said coffins were destined for an embassy which might prevent their being searched. Hmmm ....
Posted by: AzCat || 07/07/2004 12:18 Comments || Top||

#12  when will europe wake up.....
can iran rename a british road? is it located on the emabassy grounds? or just pass through??
Posted by: Dan || 07/07/2004 12:21 Comments || Top||

#13  Maybe the should erect a memorial to the Iranian expats killed in the UK by the Mullahs' assassination squads. Just a thought.
Posted by: RWV || 07/07/2004 12:54 Comments || Top||

#14  I believe its a trojan horse. It would make England part of the holy muslim empire and would be grounds for jihad. Take back the holy land!
Posted by: Anonymous || 07/07/2004 15:24 Comments || Top||

#15  You all make some great (and hilarious) points, but I think Anonymous had definitely nailed it.
Iran is making a full-time job of seeing how far they can push the British--not good.
Posted by: Jen || 07/07/2004 20:57 Comments || Top||


New religious hate laws planned
Inciting religious hatred will become a crime under plans due to be unveiled by Home Secretary David Blunkett. The government tried to get the offence passed by Parliament in the wake of the US terror attacks in 2001 but was forced to drop the plans.

In a speech in London, Mr Blunkett is set to revive the proposals. Appearing on BBC Radio 4’s Today he insisted that the legislation would not curb people’s right to express their view of other people’s religions. "The issue is not whether you have an argument or discussion or whether you are criticising someone’s religion. It’s whether you incite hatred on the basis of it," he said. There is already an offence of inciting racial hatred but this does not offer protection if someone is being targeted because of their religion...The government is worried in particular about discrimination against Muslims...He[Blunkett] is keen to stress that the government does not want to create a single common culture but instead values Britain’s diversity.

...Comedians such as Rowan Atkinson raised fears the law change could have outlawed jokes about religion. The Blackadder star suggested Monty Python’s Life of Brian would not have been made if the law had been in force. At the time, Mr Blunkett said much of the criticism of the plans had been "nonsense", adding that jokes would not fall foul of the proposed measures. Last month, the Commission on British Muslims and Islamophobia think tank warned that persistent and untackled Islamophobia in the UK could lead to "time-bombs" of backlash and bitterness.
Sheesh...coming to our neighborhood soon? I suspect both skerry and GWB would like this "harmless" legislation to protect the religion of peace from "extremists"...Alice through the Looking Glass...



Posted by: rex || 07/07/2004 5:08:16 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Timebombs" is an appropriate word!
Posted by: JackAssFestival || 07/07/2004 8:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Note that no one has defined for us what qualifies as inciting religious hatred. Who determines when expressing your view of another's religion trespasses into inciting hatred? Maybe it's like pornography-you know it when you see it?If courts get too zealous about this, we'll never see Islam be challenged to change into the "moderate" religion we CAN tolerate. How will this not insulate Islam from the legitimate criticism it so badly needs?
Posted by: jules 187 || 07/07/2004 9:28 Comments || Top||

#3  lead to "time-bombs" of backlash and bitterness.

You're right, Jules, very broad definition and ill defined. It'd never pass muster in the States.
What I found amusing is the attitude of the Beeb--the "time-bombs" are only the fault of the Anglos, and it'll only be the Anglo's fault if they get killed by these "time-bombs" they've created by not being nice.
Posted by: therien || 07/07/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#4  This is ridiculous...it will only be used as a way to get people to shut-up about the truth of radical Islam being founded in the Quran and Muhammed's example.
If people feel like they cannot even talk about Islam w/o being thrown in jail or fined, and they feel radical Islam is gaining ground in their country, they will inevitably turn to underground groups.
Groups will form that will be against Islam, underground and radical, and will be against the government too.
This is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: TS(vice girl) || 07/07/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
U.S. Asks Why Marine's Funeral Disrupted
Diplomats do their thing.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2004 12:32:25 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  These stories are hurting the Mexican cause in America more than those short-sighted resentful chauvinists on the poorer side of the border could possibly imagine.
Posted by: someone || 07/07/2004 2:52 Comments || Top||

#2  more than those short-sighted resentful chauvinists on the poorer side of the border
Explanez vous?
Posted by: rex || 07/07/2004 3:41 Comments || Top||

#3  I don't think the fallout will be that severe. Mexico has a law against armed foreign troops on their soil. Yes, it was a funeral for a US Marine, from Mexico, (and who had been returned to be buried in Mexico) and the guns were replicas instead of the real thing. However, I do think Mexico has a point in this.

You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there. Even if that means not carrying fake guns to the funeral of your fallen comrade.
Posted by: Ben || 07/07/2004 4:12 Comments || Top||

#4  You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there
Works for me. What about Mexican nationals respecting our house, our sovereignity, our border, the immigration queue to visit/live in our house?
Posted by: rex || 07/07/2004 4:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Ok. They can quit carrying guns when they come here then. :p
Posted by: Anonymous5430 || 07/07/2004 6:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Here's the story on Mexico's "apology" - quotes for not really being an apology - more an explanation.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 8:05 Comments || Top||

#7  #13 Contact the Mexican embassy here:

Embassy of mexico
1911 Pennsylvania av
Washington DC 20006
USA
Telephone: (202) 7281600

Posted by: Parabellum 2004-07-06 7:02:20 PM

Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 07/07/2004 10:11 Comments || Top||

#8  We will respect their laws when they respect ours, especially the immigration laws and securing the border.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 10:12 Comments || Top||

#9  They should be forced to the the I'm Sorry Song.
Posted by: Calvin || 07/07/2004 10:20 Comments || Top||

#10  How about the Mexican Army supplying an Honor Guard as a courtesey?

Nah...
Posted by: mojo || 07/07/2004 11:01 Comments || Top||

#11  I speculate that the anthem of the USMC probably is controversial south of the border. I think that the marines are hated throughout Latin America most of the time. The exception would be in a situation like Haiti where all of the sudden they become popular.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/07/2004 11:43 Comments || Top||

#12  This is typical of the corrupt, posturing, preening pricks that run Mexico. The Mexican government has always had a double standard. They ferociously guard their southern border to prevent illegals from crossing and will shoot any who try. At the same time, they openly promote illegal immigration across their northern border to the point of providing instructions and survival kits to those preparing to sneak into the US. They worry about ceremonial rifles while Tiajuana is rife with shootouts, mob hits, assassinations, etc. (Only Hollywood puts more bullets through the windshield than Mexican assassins.) Rather than trying to stem the tide of illegals across the border by the "humane" catch and release program, we should kick the Mexican Government in the groin by removing the economic incentive. The US should make it illegal to electronically transfer money from the US to Mexico. Now even the US Post Office offers the secure transfer of dinero back to Mexico. If they can't send money back to Mexico, then the desirability of working at minimum wage in the US starts to pale and maybe a few more will stay in Mexico.
Posted by: RWV || 07/07/2004 12:19 Comments || Top||

#13  Hmmm...The Mexican military isn't too concerned about carrying guns on American soil...there have been numerous incidents of armed incursions by Mexican army patrols into the back country of Imperial and San Diego Counties, California. It hardly ever makes even the local press. It is thought that some of these "Lost Patrols" are actually providing protection for sumgglers. Usually, when they are caught, the soldiers are sent back rather quickly although their weapons are sent back later - after running a serial number check on each one. One pistol taken from an officer proved to have been stolen in a theft in Central California.

Of course, it can go the other way too...I know of one U.S. Border Patrolman who was pulling over cars on a back road only to have each driver ask him why, since they were in Mexico. Sure enough, he somehow had crossed the border and was stopping every Mexican plated car on the Mexican highway. Busy day.
Posted by: Tobacconist || 07/07/2004 13:44 Comments || Top||

#14  More than likely the Mexicans simply coulodn't the difference between a "real" weapon and one used for ceromony. Hey, they can't help it.
Posted by: Anonymous5596 || 07/07/2004 14:15 Comments || Top||

#15  You gotta respect the other's guys house when you go there.

At the expense of denying the honor to the fallen soldier's ultimate sacrifice in service to our nation? I dunno, that just has a bad ring to it. A burial in Arlington would have been much more fitting.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/07/2004 14:45 Comments || Top||

#16  Whatever their explanation it's a farce. The U.S. coordinated the funeral with the Mexican government. There was NO NEED to have Mexican soldiers on hand to check the Marines for weapons. I stick by my comment yesterday that this was a set up by someone there or here to embarrass the Marines. Sad that we had an opportunity to share our grief and honor a son of both countries. I hope Fox doesn’t ask for anything soon (or ever).
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 07/07/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#17  You must understand these people. On one trip a soldier at a barricaded drug inspection roadblock discovered my asthma inhaler in the car. He waived it around at his Captain shouting "mira, mira" (look! look!).
____________________And yes, it is true! Federale officers reguarly dress in bluejeans, snap-button shirts, nice cowboy hats, AND have their 45's or 9mm bulging inside the front of their pants...the last bit is (quite obviously) a very macho social statement...
Posted by: borgboy || 07/07/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#18  A couple of buddies of mine decide to DRIVE from Mass. to Honduras one time. The best piece of advice they got was "Don't stop for Mexican cops in the boonies. No matter what." So they're driving through some boony town down there and, sure enough, some fat slob in raggedy clothes and a badge comes staggering out of a saloon, stands in the middle of street, and motion them to stop. My buddy guns it and put him on the hood. When he finally got off, he put a few rounds in their trunk.
They sold the car in Honduras and flew back.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 21:03 Comments || Top||

#19  #12 just explained it all correctly.Cut off the money transfers that Mexico was gouging anyway.Right on.
To #18.I drive all over Mexico.Hit check points all the time.Never an incident in twenty years.Sounds likeyour buddies got off the "beaten path".Heh Heh
Posted by: rich woods || 07/07/2004 21:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Mexican Amry: The only one LESS distinguished than the French Army.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 22:36 Comments || Top||

#21  Except for Cinco de mayo, OS. They beat the hell out of a frog army and then made it a national holiday. Do the Germans, British, Vikings, and Romans have similar holidays (or multiples) I wonder?
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/07/2004 23:22 Comments || Top||

#22  Nah, Jarhead, they'd never get any work done if they did.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/08/2004 0:01 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
Amazing Factoid: Kim Jong Il invented Hamburgers in 2000!!!!!
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) - North Korean leader Kim Jong Il has introduced hamburgers to his reclusive, communist country in a campaign to provide "quality" food to university students, media reported Wednesday.
The hamburgers were introduced in 2000 and dubbed "gogigyeopbbang," Korean for "double bread with meat," according to the June 29 edition of the North Korean state-run newspaper Minju Joson. The report was carried by South Korea’s Yonhap news agency on Wednesday.

Although reports from the isolated country have in recent years mentioned the introduction of the American fast food classic, the latest announcement seems to credit the country’s leader for their advent.

The news marks a curious development for North Korea, where U.S. consumerism is routinely reviled in the official media and people refer to the soft drink Coca Cola as the "cesspool water of American capitalism."

Wednesday’s report cites leader Kim Jong Il as saying at the time of the hamburger’s introduction: "I’ve made up my mind to feed quality bread and french fries to university students, professors and researchers even if we are in (economic) hardship."

The government then built a hamburger plant and Kim Jong Il ordered officials to pay close attention to modernizing mass production, the report was quoted as saying by Yonhap.

Hamburgers from the factory were first provided only to students at the elite Kim Il Sung University in Pyongyang, but were later provided to other schools, the daily said.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 07/07/2004 3:11:54 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  lmao! that jack ass! i am going have to share this one. :)
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/07/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Folk food?
"It's people! Gogigyeopbbang is people!"
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 15:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Double meat, cesspool water and a large rock please.

nola lsmpa nelona tista maloma! (same in all countries)
drive thru please.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:43 Comments || Top||

#4  wonder how many month's salary each burger costs
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 15:49 Comments || Top||

#5  wish he hurry up invent donuts. im culd use em snack.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/07/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Could you supersize that for me, Shipman?
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2004 16:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Algore invents the internet, Kim invents burgers... when is somebody from OUR side going to contribute something for a change??!!
Posted by: Chris W. || 07/07/2004 16:25 Comments || Top||


China to rehearse invasion of Taiwan
Beijing, China, Jul. 7 (UPI) -- China has announced plans to stage a full-scale military rehearsal for the invasion of Taiwan and associated engagements with the United States. Think this is a response to Summer Pulse 04?

The 18,000-man mock landing on the beaches of Dongshan Island will involve amphibious assault craft, Russian-built Sukhoi SU27 fighter jets and submarines operating in the Taiwan Strait to ward off a simulated counterattack by the U.S. Seventh Fleet, The Times of London reported Wednesday.

Dongshan Island is 150 miles from the southern tip of Taiwan and has the same geography and local dialect. The island is inhabited by 1 million people, compared with 22 million on Taiwan, which has a significantly larger landmass.

The announcement also came just days before a two-day Beijing visit by U.S. national security adviser Condoleezza Rice this week. And what do you think the first topic of discussion might be?
Posted by: RWV || 07/07/2004 12:23:31 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Same thing happened in 2001:

Tuesday, June 5, 2001
PRC begins drills around Dongshan Island

Published: June 5, 2001
Source: Taipei Times

ainland China's armed forces have begun a large-scale exercise on an island off Fujian Province, mobilizing approximately 30,000 soldiers, defense sources said Monday.

The exercise - codenamed "Defense of Holy Territory" - is being held on Dongshan Island, which has been the site of several large-scale amphibious landing exercises by the mainland military since 1996.

Intelligence information indicates that the exercise has been held for more than a month on the island and in neighboring areas, although the final stage of the drill - a joint operation by all participating troops - has yet to start.

More than 30,000 soldiers have been mobilized for the exercise, a simulation of a landing attempt from the sea and air against Taiwan.

Soldiers participating in the exercise are elite troops from the People's Liberation Army. They train together as a single army group, whose only mission is to "liberate" Taiwan.

The exercise on Dongshan, which Taiwan's military says is a routine drill, has attracted great attention from the international community. The exercise has prompted the U.S. to send an aircraft carrier battle group toward Taiwan, according to reports.

The USS Carl Vinson, an aircraft carrier was about 650 kilometers from Taiwan's east coast last weekend. But both the U.S. and ROC governments have denied that the carrier was in the neighborhood of Taiwan.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 12:41 Comments || Top||

#2  Think this is a response to Summer Pulse 04?

Hell, let's make them part of it. They can play Red Force to our Blue Force, oh wait, they are Red already.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#3  This is not what I would call a realistic exercise, given that Dongshan Island is actually joined to the mainland by a dyke:

Bachimen, a key junction of Dongshan Island and the mainland, was originally a ferry. In 669, during the Zongzhang Period in the Tang Dynasty, Chen Yuanguang led his army to reclaim South Fujian and brought about the prosperity of Dongshan Island. To honour Chen's merits, people called the ferry "Chen Ping Ferry". In 1664, the third year of Kangxi, the Qing government built here an eight-foot-high wall with a fort, so as to cut the connection of the people in Dongshan with an anti-Qing general Zheng Chenggong. Then, Chen Ping Ferry was changed ito Bachimen. In 1960, the People's Government built a dyke here, joining the island to the mainland and making it a penisula. In 1973, on the dyke was builtthe Xiangdong Aqueduct, leading fresh water into the island. The projects of the dyke and the aqueduct have add to the beauty of the island.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 13:02 Comments || Top||

#4  If they're gonna practice, they should sink all their ships, landing crafts, subs, just like what'll happen in the real McCoy
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#5  ZF: This is not what I would call a realistic exercise, given that Dongshan Island is actually joined to the mainland by a dyke:

I should have added - whereas Taiwan is separated from the Chinese mainland by 100 miles of open water.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 13:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Meanwhile, the NRO will be staging overflights for accurate intelligence estimates as we fine tune our composition of forces in the field for this event.

China's constant saber rattling is rapidly coming into competition with international terrorism as a source of economic drain upon the world. They have funneled nuclear technology into the cesspools of North Korea and Iran while the free world must try and defuse these dangerous fanatics.

The time has come to arm South Korea, Japan and Taiwan with nuclear weapons in response to China's destabilizing influence. This is one of the few measures that would represent any sort of significant slap-down which the Politburo is in such desperate need of.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 14:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Dongshan Island is actually joined to the mainland by a dyke

What's her name?
Posted by: mojo || 07/07/2004 14:23 Comments || Top||

#8  Joined to the mainland by a dyke, huh? Somehow, contemplating this is giving me a bad case of the giggles.... :D
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/07/2004 14:49 Comments || Top||

#9  Thanks for the slow-pitch mojo/BAR; Brings a 'hole' new meaning to sticking your finger in a dyke.

(Rimshot!)
Posted by: Doc8404 || 07/07/2004 15:10 Comments || Top||

#10  whereas Taiwan is separated from the Chinese mainland by 100 miles of open water.

Hence a partial explanation of PLA's interest in CVs as mobile airfields (as opposed to deploying aircraft). They've had a landing strip built in a flight-deck configuration for at about a decade.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/07/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#11  I remember the first post I made at RantBurg...
something about a Chineese fire drill.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#12  It would be very interesting to know how savvy the Chinese high command is about US weaponry and tactics. The Soviets went to lengths to keep their commanders in the dark about this, which resulted in the following story:

Brezhnev went to witness a major naval exercise, the northern fleet capturing a large port. While impressive to look at from the shore, it was hard to tell what had been accomplished. So Brezhnev asked the Admiral commanding the exercise how they had done. "Excellent, we have not lost a single ship," he replied.
Brezhnev then asked him how they had neutralized the enemies' shore batteries.
"The enemy has shore batteries?", he replied.

As ridiculous as it sounds, the Soviet admiralty was generally kept in the dark about ground and air forces disposition and armament. Combined with inter-service rivalry (yes, they have it too), can result in major disconnects.

But does the PLA have this same problem?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2004 18:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Anonymoose: It would be very interesting to know how savvy the Chinese high command is about US weaponry and tactics.

My feeling is that they know the broad outlines without knowing the specifics - meaning they know what the sausage looks like, but have no idea how it was made. This may be the reason that Chinese strategic thinkers are always bragging about how they'll annihilate American forces via asymmetric warfare - which in my opinion is a load of wishful thinking dressed up as strategy. Of course, they are not without resources - they may have been spending as much as $20B a year on weapons procurement (compared to $90B a year in the US budget - they may get more bang for their buck because scientists in China cost way less to employ). If they've been spending this much money, odds are they'll have some surprises for us if open conflict does break out. (Of course, we'll also have some surprises for them).
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||

#14  THey doing it completely realistically?

Including the effects of Mk48ADCAPs on their transports, Harpoon and Tomahawk impacts on their surface combatants, and stealth bombers dropping PGM onto anything left (and destroying their coastal ports and airfields in range of Taiwan)...

Nah, didnt think so.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 22:40 Comments || Top||

#15  OS - zactly what I was saying in #4
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 22:48 Comments || Top||

#16  OS: Including the effects of Mk48ADCAPs on their transports, Harpoon and Tomahawk impacts on their surface combatants, and stealth bombers dropping PGM onto anything left (and destroying their coastal ports and airfields in range of Taiwan)...

And what you've mentioned doesn't even require air strikes launched from carriers - this is wholly a submarine, destroyer and Air Force show.

NB: I had thought that the Tomahawk was only capable of attacking stationary land targets. But the FAS website had the following to say about the new and improved Tomahawks: TBIP will provide a single variant missile, the Tomahawk Multi-Mission Missile that is capable of attacking sea- and land-based targets in near real time.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 23:15 Comments || Top||

#17  I think the two biggest challenges to Chinese strategists relate not to the carriers, which can be tracked by satellite - at least during the day, but to the stealth warplanes and the submarines, which cannot.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 23:27 Comments || Top||


It’s the Economy, Stupid!
We’ve had several discussions here about the Chinese economy. Here’s a NY Times piece [reg req] that sounds an alarm that I’ve been anticipating for some time.

[snip]The torrid Chinese demand for raw material last fall and winter has largely evaporated, as credit-starved companies drew down their supplies and stopped placing new orders. Prices slumped in commodities markets as a result. As the lines of ships waiting to unload cargo at Chinese ports dwindled, ocean bulk freight rates tumbled as well, falling by more than half on some routes after shooting up seven or eightfold last year and early this year.

But shortages of coal, and the freight cars to haul it, remain acute in China. Summer blackouts are spreading across Chinese cities, forcing factories to close for days at a time as power plants struggle to keep up with demand from the country’s many new industrial complexes and even more air-conditioners.

With state-owned banks suddenly restricting what had been a flood of loans, borrowers are starting to run into trouble in regions that relied heavily on this lending, including the northeast and the region around Shanghai.

There have been fewer problems here in southeastern China, where construction cranes still work seven days a week and exporters get less of their financing from Beijing and more from Hong Kong and abroad. [snip] The multiplier effect is running into its upper limit. Money really doesn’t grow on trees, and the vast exports to the United States can only finance so much. Cue ticking time bomb.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/07/2004 11:38:45 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh man I was fearing this... this is really bad news. The last thing we need is a desperate china. If thing get bad and we start to see a civil uprising china may end up taking several steps backwards towards communism and totalitarianism. Granted it was only inching forward... at least it was moving in the right direction.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 07/07/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#2  The thrust of this article is the difficulty that the Chinese financial managers are having in transitioning from a command economy to a market driven economy and their attempts at trying to control inflation. It's not really a sky-is-falling sort of piece in spite of what the excerpted paragraphs imply. China is going to take a few more years to get into serious trouble. Their time of troubles is coming, it's just not here yet.
Posted by: RWV || 07/07/2004 12:35 Comments || Top||

#3  If thing get bad and we start to see a civil uprising china may end up taking several steps backwards towards communism and totalitarianism.

China is already a totalitarian one-party dictatorship -- the recent economic liberalization (without accompanying human or political rights) only interests people wanting to make a profit out of it. I see no real worth in it as pertains on democracy and human rights.

Its economic collapse will be as much a good thing for the region and the world as the collapse of USSR was. Yeah, it will cause lots of upheaval, same as the collapse of USSR did, but in the *end* it'll be a good thing.

For one thing it's the only chance of seeing the North Korean dictatorship overthrown -- if the Chinese dictatorship collapses first.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/07/2004 12:50 Comments || Top||

#4  I hope they can manage to slow the economy without a crash but it's not looking good. They refuse to set their exchange rate in the free market and they refuse to increase interest rates. It looks like they are in the midst of realizing that they have a massive oversupply of just about everything (except power which is undersupplied). This could get really bad really quick. All it takes is for the world financial community to view china as a falling economy and you will see it's markets tumble, it's access to capital dry up and it's FDI plummet over night.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 07/07/2004 12:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Aris, capitalism will lead to democracy as the population gets richer and more sophisticated they will demand it. That's the theory anyway ;)

A chinese collapse could have seriously negative consequences and I don't view it as synonomous with the soviet collapse. China, while is not a friend of ours, is not our outright enemy. They're in a murky in between place (more on the antagonist side obviously). The soviets actively called for the end of the US and fought many proxy wars against us... nothing like that with china.

I totally disagree that north korea will have to wait for china to fall. I think we can take care of NK with China there and they won't stick their neck to far out for lil kim.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 07/07/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#6  the recent economic liberalization (without accompanying human or political rights) only interests people wanting to make a profit out of it. I see no real worth in it as pertains on democracy and human rights.

Then you're a fool Aris. The desire for economic liberty often goes well before the adoption of high minded ideals. It's no coincidence that the wealthiest nations also tend to be the freest while the poorest tend to be the most repressed and corrupt.
Posted by: AzCat || 07/07/2004 12:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Then you're a fool Aris.

Want y'all to make a note who started the ad-hominems in this thread.

It's no coincidence that the wealthiest nations also tend to be the freest

I agree that it's not, but you have it backwards IM(very)AO -- freedom leads to wealth, it's not wealth that leads to freedom.

The desire for economic liberty often goes well before the adoption of high minded ideals

Yeah, all those people murdered in Tiannamen square were not protesting for freedom and democracy, they just wanted free market. They didn't erect a statue to the Goddess of Democracy, they erected a statue to Free Market instead.

What you *meant* to say is that *your* desire for economic liberty comes before high-minded ideals. Checking the message of those protests, I can't say the same holds for the Chinese people.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/07/2004 13:15 Comments || Top||

#8  China's history is a series of empires followed by fragmentation. That is their current direction, though I would suggest not for a couple of decades.

The costs of doing business in China, interest, energy, shipping, have been held down by the central government, leading in part to the wild, almost unheard of, economic expansion. In the first quarter of 2004 China was importing 30% more crude oil than last year, as an example.

China makes its foreign currency by exporting. The United States stands nearly alone as importing more than it exports to China. Most other industrial nations run a trade surplus with China. So, we have been providing the cash to fuel the expansion. As the dollar dropped in the Spring, so did China's ability to buy with dollars. Oops!

China imports massive amounts of oil and food. In an economic collapse, people will starve and freeze. Before that, the 50% of loans that are bad will cause bank failures. The military, which is China's largest industrial employer, will demand resources be devoted to its factories first and rationing will come in to practice. Unrest will begin in the industrial and trade centers of the South and East, and the millions of people who left their farms to find work in the cities are forced into unemployment.

The Chinese military will be unable to completely repress nationwide protests, so they will be forced to look for quick solutions. The Russian East, Taiwan, and Southeast Asia all have resources which the People's Army may decide can be taken. Think Japan in 1941.

Can the Chinese take enough resources to stabilize the situation as their economic heartland crumbles?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/07/2004 13:16 Comments || Top||

#9  With state-owned banks suddenly restricting what had been a flood of loans...

This is not alarming and actually was expected. It's part of China's attempt to slow down the overheating economy and clamp down on runaway lending.

For excellent background info, see "Headed for a Crisis?" , Business Week, May 3rd, 2004.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#10  I'm afraid I have to agree with Aris on this one.

For starters, what's the point of a "capitalist" revolution when "capitalism" is reserved, to a large extent, to the relatives of high party officials? (What's more, high communist party officials).
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 07/07/2004 13:31 Comments || Top||

#11  Oh my God! Stop the Presses! Hell has frozen over! I agree with something Aris said.

Well put, Aris.

Now back to my regularly scheduled trolling.
Posted by: badanov || 07/07/2004 13:48 Comments || Top||

#12  what's the point of a "capitalist" revolution

Somebody has to make the BMWs, build their villas etc... All that money spent on luxury tends to trickle down to the lower levels. I doubt that the relatives of high party officials are keen on hard physical labour.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 13:49 Comments || Top||

#13  The desire for economic liberty often goes well before the adoption of high minded ideals

There's some truth in that. My parents escaped communist Poland not because they had an unrelenting desire to vote, but because they wanted to be better off financially. All of the escapees we met during The Great Escape did it for the same reason.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#14  Somebody give Zenster a pat on the back, he's 'owned' this story on Rantburg for quite a while.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#15  Rafael, you took the words out of my mouth. The first thing on peoples' mind is "do I have enough money for me and my family to live comfortably?" after that comes "I want my civil rights." and after that comes "I want to choose our leaders."

Chuck, you paint a bleak picture... but I fear that it's a real possibility.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 07/07/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#16  In Aris' defense, both Korea and Taiwan became wealthy before they became free. I think that the actual progression is 1) Rule of law, 2) Wealth 3) Freedom. There have been many "enlightened despots" who kept corruption and exploitation low and who had very wealthy kingdoms. The problem has always been that when the enlightened despot dies and his successor is a scumbag, the wealth goes away. Representative governments solve this problem by having relatively tranparent institutions that are subject to constant audit and thus can sustain wealth creation over many generations.

Rule of law always leads to wealth creation. Wealth creation doesn't always result in freedom. But when it does, wealth creation really takes off since all the premiums associated with the uncertainty of succession (royal or dictatorial) go away and direct investment increases.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/07/2004 14:36 Comments || Top||

#17  If the Chinese bubble bursts now, one can only hope that they'll take the right lessons from this instead of jumping to finger-pointing and vilification. But the populace has already gone too far down the latter road, I'm afraid.
Posted by: someone || 07/07/2004 14:37 Comments || Top||

#18  11A5S: Of course, China doesn't exactly have the rule of law either.
Posted by: someone || 07/07/2004 14:39 Comments || Top||

#19  China is already a totalitarian one-party dictatorship -- the recent economic liberalization (without accompanying human or political rights) only interests people wanting to make a profit out of it.

Close. The CCP (like the Soviets) wants the benefits of economic stimulation without giving up political control. Hence those who want to make a profit are useful to the CCP at this point. If it gets out of hand, well, the CCP figures they've done "kill the landlords" routine before.

Will China collapse? Who knows? I'm inclined to echo Chuck Simmins. If it does, it could end up a military dictatorship or a collection of warlords. Given my limited experience with them, that could be a lot worse.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/07/2004 14:50 Comments || Top||

#20  Agreed someone. I would place them in the same category as indonesia before the Asian financial crisis in 97.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/07/2004 14:57 Comments || Top||

#21  Point to you, someone, for sure ...

Unfortunately, I'm far less optimistic about the desire of mainland Chinese for political freedom, but the two main concerns I know of are corruption and that the wealth is concentrated totally in the southeast, mainly Shenzhen and Hong Kong ...
Posted by: Edward Yee || 07/07/2004 15:04 Comments || Top||

#22  11A5S, You nailed it. Rule of law is what allows for wealth creation because investors won't invest if there aren't rules on the books that are obeyed governing transfer and sale of equity. Democracy has nothing to do with wealth creation... it just ensures that some wacked out autocrat doesn't come along and ruin the laws that allowed for wealth creation.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 07/07/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#23  Good heavens pro Aristotle posts!

But(and not related):
1) Rule of law, 2) Wealth 3) Freedom.

I figure 1)Rule of Law 2)Liberty 3)Who cares about three?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:12 Comments || Top||

#24  Shipman> Good heavens pro Aristotle posts!

Wonders never cease. :-)

A somewhat off-topic sidenote (begging your indulgence)>

"If it does, it could end up a military dictatorship or a collection of warlords."

"The Chinese military will be unable to completely repress nationwide protests, so they will be forced to look for quick solutions. The Russian East, Taiwan, and Southeast Asia all have resources which the People's Army may decide can be taken."

Whoa... I find this future history creepy for a different reason than its predictions alone: A year or so back I had written a short story set a decade or so in the future. The story itself is nothing much, but the point is that near its end it included a reference to a military junta in China that had indeed invaded and conquered large parts of southeastern Asia... (And what was left of a radiation-filled Korea as well.)

*g* Ofcourse got several comments in the reviewer section from readers offended by the fact that I portrayed China as aggressive... Oh, no, never China. :-)
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/07/2004 15:46 Comments || Top||

#25  Aris, you do fanfiction? My, my, you're full of surprize...
Posted by: Anonymous5089 || 07/07/2004 16:13 Comments || Top||

#26  Aris, you do fanfiction?

Once in a *long* while. Not a very productive writer.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/07/2004 16:51 Comments || Top||

#27  Sorry someone, I was running out the door and gave a snappy answer. The question is whether China has generated any true wealth. As in the Indonesia example, I would argue no. Both are attempts by kleptocratic regimes to create wealth without rule of law. They are Ponzi schemes. In the short term, they can get away with this but eventually external market pressures will destroy the wealth as in the case of Indonesia and as many here are speculating about China. Something similar, but milder happened in Japan. Within a rule of law framework, they tried to jig things to grow wealth at an unsustainable rate. There were all sorts of unsustainable practices within the keiretsus. Money was lent below market rates. Parts were shipped at a loss. Surplus employees were "hidden" within keiretsu subsidiaries. Eventually, someone has to get paid in full. At that point, the whole thing collapses.

China and Indonesia are worse than Japan because there is no transparency and no fungibility of capital assets. You cannot control capitalism. Adam Smith's blind hand always intrudes. In the end someone always has to get paid. That's the conerstone of wealth creation. I only invest in China because I expect to see a return on that investment. China, like all Ponzi schemes, will collapse when someone demands to get paid his return on his investment. George Soros played that role in '97. In Japan it was banks looking to get paid by land developers. I don't know who it will be in China's case, but when it happens, I suspect that the Kleptocrats won't pay and that there will be a time of troubles afterwards that will affect us all.

I think that my original point stands. Korea, Taiwan and Chile all experienced rule of law before wealth creation. If you will go back to me original post, you will note that I never mention China. I was only posting in response to Aris' critics, not the situation in China.

Other countries have gone through periods of rule of law and wealth creation only to turn away at the point ot freedom. Stolypin's Russia, Weimar Germany, and Argentina (several times!) all come to mind. Essentially, they all ran into the wall of succession and failed to achieve multi-generational wealth creation.

Shipman: Your point is well taken and certainly applies in the case of the US. However, I would point out that the US was a colony of a country that had already solved the rule of law and succession problems during the Glorious Revolution of 1688. As such, the colonists already came equipped with the tools, expectations and institutions to establish liberty in short order. A look at English history would show that it had previously experienced many Enlightened despot/rule of law/wealth creation/succession/wealth destruction cycles prior to 1688 and the ascendancy of Parliment.
Posted by: 11A5S || 07/07/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#28  Clarifying: I agree with Aris that China's capitalism without democracy (or, IMHO, the rule of law, as 11A5S also points out) isn't quite all it's made out to be.

I am not, however, eager to see the results of the collapse. (I don't know about Aris, but I figure he can speak for himself).

Rafael writes:

Somebody has to make the BMWs, build their villas etc... All that money spent on luxury tends to trickle down to the lower levels. I doubt that the relatives of high party officials are keen on hard physical labour.

Well, if factory workers and factory owners and party officials are all parts of different "castes" governed by different laws, and some animals are more equal than others, the effects of trickle-down economics may be different than in the west.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 07/07/2004 18:04 Comments || Top||

#29  Phil> I am not, however, eager to see the results of the collapse. (I don't know about Aris, but I figure he can speak for himself).

What is the alternative? I can't wish for China to remain a tyranny, so I must wish for the tyranny to collapse. No matter how painful the process will be. I can only hope that the neighbouring Asian nations will be ready to defend themselves when that happens. Or atleast the *democratic* neighbouring Asian nations, because I couldn't care less about what happens to similar tyrannies like Burma or Vietnam or Laos.

China's rulers haven't shown to me any hint of being able (or even interested) to reform their country into a freedom-loving democracy. Or if they have shown any such interest, I have failed to notice it. So that's one option down.

China has nukes, so it's not a country that can be invaded and reformed by force from outsiders. Not to mention its size. So that's another option down.

China's current leadership isn't as person-oriented as Kim's or Castro's is or Saddam's was, so hoping that a death by old age will bring down the establishment doesn't work either...

Only option remaining is internal collapse, possibly because of economic reasons. Anyone have any better ideas?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 07/07/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#30  Anyone have any better ideas?

Yes. Leave them alone. Free markets and communism are two divergent ideas. Sooner or later they will have to swing one way or the other. Having just a taste of capitalism, even the card-carrying party officials might not want to go back to the good ol' days. And then...collapse.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 19:59 Comments || Top||

#31  Free markets and communism are two divergent ideas.

I damn sure hope you're correct, but this isn't the USSR, this is the big leagues, the Middle Kingdom. I'm not certain what theories apply here.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 20:12 Comments || Top||

#32  Free markets and communism are two divergent ideas, by definition (I should have said). Trust me. They will one day have to revert, or if they lose sufficient control, they will let go of the reins. What happens after, is another matter :)
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 20:27 Comments || Top||

#33  ...cont'd
Communism isn't very good at creating wealth (money). The reason communists have what they have is because they can order their own citizens to build stuff, and pay them didly squat (or nothing at all).
If communists wish to buy the better goods from free market economies, they have to pay a fair price, which unfortunately for the commies is usually much higher than didly squat. This means you need a plentiful natural resource (or oil, wink wink, Saudi Arabia) to sell to the world, or you have to make money at home (capitalism).
The question is whether the die hard commie ideologues have decided that they can't live without their 10 BMWs. If they can't, they will be forced to introduce free markets and all the reforms that go with it.
The reason why this will be a slow process in China's case, is, ironically, because of international trade. The money that pours in from foreigners buying Chinese products, is currently being used to pay for those 10 BMWs. Once this trade levels off, or declines, we can expect some sort of action on the part of the communists (reversion to hard line communism, or...conversion to something else).
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 21:41 Comments || Top||

#34  uh, that's 10 BMWs per communist head, not the total for the whole party to share :)
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 21:44 Comments || Top||


China calls U.S. 7-carrier exercise in Pacific ’naked intimidation’
July 7th, 2004

Beijing is denouncing a large-scale U.S. naval exercise as targeted at China, U.S. officials said. The Summer Pulse exercise will involve the simultaneous deployment of seven U.S. carrier battle groups around the world.

China’s government is also upset that Taiwanese naval forces are involved in the exercises. A Chinese military source said China cannot handle more than two carrier battle groups. "This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st Century," the source remarked.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/07/2004 1:39:49 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Intimidation? No, you misunderstand, we're just making a point: Don't fuck with us.
Posted by: Charles || 07/07/2004 8:35 Comments || Top||

#2  But naked, yes. You got us on that one.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 8:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Naked intimidation?

What's so bad about that?
Posted by: Anonymous5593 || 07/07/2004 9:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Our nakedness intimidates their nakedness.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2004 9:23 Comments || Top||

#5  And it's so nice of them to let us know they got the message. Many Thx.

Old Koan: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
New Koan: What is the sound of Chinese seething?

They're the Same! Bwahahahaha!
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 9:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Ya think they, and Kimmie-boy-the-baby-killer, get the hint?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 07/07/2004 9:29 Comments || Top||

#7  As long as Taiwan is behaving and NOT declaring independence, China must understand that we wont tolerate Chinese interference. Reunification should occur by peaceful means (in the long run, when China evolves), so that it does not threaten the wider Pacific region.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/07/2004 9:38 Comments || Top||

#8  "This is gunboat diplomacy in the 21st Century," the source remarked

Trying to get on our good side are you?
Posted by: badanov || 07/07/2004 9:45 Comments || Top||

#9  Mark Espinola: China calls U.S. 7-carrier exercise in Pacific ’naked intimidation’

To be clear, the 7-carrier exercise will not be in the Pacific. As the article itself notes, the Summer Pulse exercise will involve the simultaneous deployment of seven U.S. carrier battle groups around the world. Official military web sites have confirmed that the exercise is occurring at various places around the globe - in no single location are 7 carriers going to be massed together. Needless to say, the Chinese are offended, anyway.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 9:46 Comments || Top||

#10  Naked Gun? Admiral Leslie Neilsen...
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#11  Man, the only thing missing is the "naked intimidation" link to Abu Gharib in the MSM! I give that one a day or two before the MSM picks up that link!
Posted by: BA || 07/07/2004 10:36 Comments || Top||

#12  I think "Naked Intimidation" was a Cher video.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/07/2004 11:34 Comments || Top||

#13  Naked Intimidation = Yao Ming in the locker room
Posted by: Chris W. || 07/07/2004 12:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Summer Pulse is naked agression? I got your naked aggression right here Mao!

Beijing, China, Jul. 7 (UPI) -- China has announced plans to stage a full-scale military rehearsal for the invasion of Taiwan and associated engagements with the United States.http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20040707-095954-5723r.htm
Posted by: RWV || 07/07/2004 12:43 Comments || Top||

#15  I think they've mistaken Summer Pulse with Operation Naked Intimidation, which I believe is a Southwest Asia exercise. Probably just a translation issue.

Still... intimidated?
Posted by: BH || 07/07/2004 14:21 Comments || Top||

#16  Oh come on, how much damage can seven carrier battle groups do? Wusses.
Posted by: Matt || 07/07/2004 14:28 Comments || Top||

#17  I like their claim that they can handle only two carrier battle groups. Really? What do they base this on? Does this factor in B-2 strikes as well?
Posted by: Silentbrick || 07/07/2004 14:47 Comments || Top||

#18  Memo to Politburo:

Free demonstration of effective saber-rattling techniques with tutorial to follow in Northeast Asian quadrant.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 15:37 Comments || Top||

#19  What do they base this on?

Doctrine, most likely. The US traditionally hasn't had more than a couple of CVBGs in the Western Pacific. As a result, it'll be the number of anti-surface forces and weapons available to function at extreme range against two CVBGs during a quick strike. This recent move no doubt has caused the PLA some... concern.

Does this factor in B-2 strikes as well?

Also depends on doctrine. I suspect the B-2s are factored in.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/07/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#20  Maybe they want takeout?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 15:47 Comments || Top||

#21  Are the B-2s naked as well?

What about the Lancers?
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:47 Comments || Top||

#22  Shipman: I don't know about the B-2s, but it goes without saying that the Buffs are nekkid. ;)
Posted by: BH || 07/07/2004 16:08 Comments || Top||

#23  LOL BH!
I was digging and couldn't find that!
Posted by: Tappy Toe Wiley || 07/07/2004 17:11 Comments || Top||

#24  Ooopps.
I am the wind.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 17:13 Comments || Top||

#25 
China calls U.S. 7-carrier exercise in Pacific ’naked intimidation’
Nonsense. I'm sure most of the sailors have their clothes on most of the time.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/07/2004 17:17 Comments || Top||

#26  Carriers yes, destroyers (who knows).
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#27  Shoulda let the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere" devour them....
Posted by: borgboy || 07/07/2004 18:43 Comments || Top||

#28  You want a carrier battle group?

You can't handle a carrier battle group!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 07/07/2004 19:11 Comments || Top||


Europe
French Muslims Preparing to Defy Ban on Headscarves
From Khilafah, crediting Reuters
French officials warned Muslim activists against testing the state’s patience on Monday after a second large Muslim group urged schoolgirls to defy a ban on headscarves when schools reopen in September. ... The large Union of French Islamic Organizations (UOIF) pledged last week to give legal aid to any girl expelled for wearing one. A meeting of about 100 imams in the Rhone-Alpes region, around Lyon, joined the campaign on Sunday, ...

Philippe Guittet, secretary-general of an association of school principals, urged Muslim leaders to calm things down. "Some political-religious organizations are trying to challenge the rules of secularism in France," he said, noting the veil ban was approved by a large majority in parliament. If Muslim groups try to defy the ban, which outlaws ostentatious signs of religious affiliation, secularists "who want a complete ban will be strengthened", he said.

The powerful UOIF says Muslim women should cover their hair as a religious duty. "We want girls to continue their schooling, but we won’t be the ones to force them to take off their veils," Kamel Kabtane, head of the Rhone-Alpes Muslim council, told journalists after the Sunday meeting. Mr Kabtane said Muslim groups had already approached Roman Catholic schools to ask if girls expelled from state schools could attend their classes wearing headscarves. "We were well received," he said. "We are being pushed to open our own schools," he added.

Moderate Muslim leaders opposed to the UOIF strategy last week urged schoolgirls and their families to avoid any action that would be "be harmful to the Muslim religion and stigmatize French Muslims".
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 11:00:49 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Turkey Releases Christian Kurd From 12-Year Imprisonment
From Compass Direct
Soner Onder walked out of a high-security Turkish prison on June 22, a free man, reported Open Doors on June 23. To the day, it was 12 years and six months after his arrest as a 17-year-old teenager. Now 31, Soner walked into the arms of his family outside a Turkish military compound in Tekirdag. Soner’s 74-year-old mother — his father is deceased — joined uncles, cousins and siblings who had flown in from Germany, Sweden, Holland and other cities of Turkey for the long-awaited reunion. Soner was returning from church services on Christmas day, 1991, when police arrested him off a public bus following a deadly Kurdish terrorist attack on a local department store. The only reason for his arrest was Soner’s identity card, which listed his birthplace as Diyarbakir, center of the Kurdish separatist uprising. Soner estimated that he received at least 11,000 cards and letters from Christians around the world during his imprisonment. “Many of them I couldn’t read,” he admitted, “but they were so colorful and encouraging to me.”
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 10:19:33 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Lance Armstrong In Tour de France Lead
ARRAS, France -- Lance Armstrong took the overall lead Wednesday for the first time at this year’s Tour de France after one of the fastest time trials in race history.

His U.S. Postal Service squad dominated the rain-soaked event, giving the Texan the yellow jersey with a 36-second lead over fellow American and former teammate Tyler Hamilton.

"It really was a special day for the team," Armstrong said. "The team was incredible. The rhythm was perfect. It’s incredible."

Armstrong, bidding for a record sixth straight Tour title, smiled broadly as he crossed the line, riding a special aerodynamic bike and wearing an aerodynamic helmet and suit.

"Piss off, Frenchies! How ya like me now?"

Jan Ullrich, a five-time Tour runner-up and second again to Armstrong last year, finished fourth and is 55 seconds off the champion’s overall time.

Ullrich’s one tough hombre, but he’ll probably be third this year behind Lance & Hamilton.

Other challengers were also left trailing: Ivan Basso is 1 minute, 17 seconds behind Armstrong overall, and Roberto Heras is 1 minute, 45 seconds back.

Basso can kinda, sorta climb; Heras won Tour of Spain last year with Postal’s B squad; Basso’s CSC squad is better than Heras’ Liberty. They’ll be in the top 10 in Paris.

Armstrong said his team started slowly but picked up speed.

Well, it was raining...

"That’s the sign of a great team," he said. "We fought hard."

The blue-clad Postal squad celebrated with hugs at the finish line. Armstrong raised his arms as he accepted the yellow jersey that in the past five years he has come to call his own.

Ullrich, the 1997 Tour winner, entered the race as Armstrong’s most feared rival. His T-Mobile squad was more than a minute behind.

No Vinokorov (he crashed two weeks ago, 4th overall last year), no chance.

New rules designed to screw Lance Armstrong limit the advantage that top teams gain in the event protected Ullrich to some extent. In all, the German lost 40 seconds to Armstrong’s team -- still a severe setback.

Actual clock deficit to Postal - 1’19". French perfidity knows no limits.

Despite rain that soaked the 40-mile course from Cambrai to Arras, Armstrong’s team still averaged more than 32 mph -- the third fastest time in the history of the event.

I’m lucky to hold that for 1/4 mile with a tailwind. Four years ago.

Armstrong will still be looking to the later mountain stages and individual time trials to put away his rivals for good. But the advantage gained in the team event was a major step toward yet another title.

ITT up l’Alpe d’Huez is another French inspired obstacle for Lance; it doesn’t have the drama of pack breakaways, but it just serves to piss Lance off even more. Big mistake.

Armstrong and five teammates are among the top seven riders in the overall standings a clear sign of strength. George Hincapie is No. 2, 10 seconds behind. He is followed by No. 3 Floyd Landis, No. 4. Jose Azevedo, No. 5. Jose Luis Rubiera and No. 7 Viatceslav Ekimov.

It’s not just the Germans that can invade France.

The Postal squad had the advantage of starting last of the 21 teams. It also benefited from a stop in the rain that had doused the course, turning the roads slick and causing several teams problems. There were several crashes.

The Postal team has worked right from the start of the Tour, beginning with an opening time trial Saturday, to position itself as the squad to start last. That enabled the team to see how others fared on the route and judge the pace.

"It’s details that can win the Tour de France," said Dirk Demol, an assistant sports manager for the team.

Armstrong has said he was not aiming to keep the yellow jersey in the flat stages that come in the days following the time trial. Those stages favor strong sprinters.

"I suspect we’ll be willing to give the jersey to someone else," he said.

His aim is to be wearing it on the day that counts -- at the finish in Paris on July 25.

He’ll have it for keeps by the time they get to that ITT on l’Alpe d’Huez.
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2004 4:27:33 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When I saw Postal was down 30 seconds at the first intermediate split, I was sure they had no chance. Especially since they dropped Nozal(sp?) so early. This team just seems to get better each year. They have been the Dream Team of professional cycling. The riders who have left the team, Hamilton, Heras, Leipheimer(sp?), Boonen, etc., as supporting players to Lance, have emerged as team leaders with their new teams. It says a lot about a team to lose so much and still be able to dominate all challengers.
My prediction for Paris: Lance to win by more than 2:30, Hamilton in second or third, Ullrich will not be on the podium. Iban Mayo will end up with a top six finish.
Posted by: Scott R || 07/07/2004 17:03 Comments || Top||

#2  I wouldn't be counting out TeleKom just yet. Ulrich is the best rider (sez Armstrong) out there. Maybe headstrong but getting older, better, wiser and he's in the North of France. Home turf for a good Cherman to make fast.... :)

I'm rooting for Roberto Herras, and no I don't know why.
Damn it's stupid, but I do love the Tour de France. And yes it's very obvious I know nothing about bike racing except for the tour and the Spain thingy, I always figured the giro de Wop would be perfect for TeeeVeee and Teee Vooo (shurg)
Lucky? Thoughts? Kaos is setting in!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 17:20 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's get 50 more posts and drive LH Krazy! :)

Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#4  The changes in timing accumulations and their selection of individual time trial locations were so transparently aimed at penalizing Armstrong in particular that French race officials should hang their heads in shame.

However, it does constitute a flat-out admission that Armstrong c'est l'etat.

Here's hoping Lance blows their f&%king doors off! For the sixth time in a row.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 18:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Shipman, Heras is a f-ing mountain goat, but IMO he doesn't have the time trialing ability or a strong enough team to provide the support he needs to be a tier one player. I hope he wins a couple mountain stages, but I don't think he can contend for top spot in the GC.
Posted by: Scott R || 07/07/2004 20:12 Comments || Top||

#6  capt.tdf10907071605.cycling_tour_de_france_tdf109
Posted by: Scott R || 07/07/2004 20:42 Comments || Top||

#7  I'll wager you're correct Scott... just like to have a backup to root for.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 21:38 Comments || Top||

#8  So far from what I've seen, the Tour, compared to the Giro, is so much faster. Faso Bortalo was able to just set up Pataki at will for the sprints in the Giro, as did Aqua Sapone did two years ago for Cippolini. At this Tour the sprints are balls out, like jousting nights of old. It's trully mano-e-mano. I've yet to see any team be able to set up their guy for a text book sprint.

I'm still hopeful that Semoni can challenge but that is still a story to come. Mayo, if he can get over his crushing from yesterday may still surprise, but I'm still wondering who the new guy will be.

If you watched the TTT today you saw a text book echelon formation by US Postal. Short hard pulls and easy relaxed drafting. Music!

I've yet to see who is going to challenge Lance. It's not crunch time though. But lay dough on it, Ullrich is still only a high GC guy.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/08/2004 0:22 Comments || Top||


Krauthammer: The French Act Isn't Funny Any More
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 16:17 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Fifth Column
More Unfunny Rall Comix
Disgusting, although I’m sure Antiwar will find something good in it...
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2004 4:33:46 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That is perhaps the worst thing he's ever done.

I'd write the comix syndicate but that clearly does no good.
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2004 17:06 Comments || Top||

#2  Just dreadful...and that's just considering the cartoon "art" work.
Posted by: Jen || 07/07/2004 17:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Rall is an irrelevant pissant. This stuff should be broadcast far and wide with pictures of Michael Moore and Kerry/Edwards right next to it. Rall is the Democratic party today. Let everyone know it.
Posted by: remote man || 07/07/2004 17:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I renounce, denounce, Ted Ralls. This thing of darkness i DONT acknowledge mine.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 07/07/2004 17:22 Comments || Top||

#5  No kidding, remote man.
What's truly disgusting is that Rall is only taking what the Bush-haters really think and making it into as nasty a visual.
Hard to believe these people are our fellow citizens...
Denounce all you like, Lh, but this is the Dimocrat Party, a 'national' party no more as the wise Sen. Zell Miller admitted.
Posted by: Jen || 07/07/2004 17:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Oh, YEGGGG!!!

I was a Democrat for 31 years. I don't even recognise my former party anymore- they bear no resemblance at all to the party of Jack Kennedy. Today they are the party of ignorance, of hatred, and of envy.

I will never, EVER vote for one of those sick, lying bastards again, so long as I live.
Posted by: Dave D. || 07/07/2004 17:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Atta boy Dave D. Unfortunately, these people are everywhere. Even more sad is that there are a lot of minimally informed folk who would recoil at this association but just don't know that a vote for Kerry/Edwards is a vote for this scum.
Posted by: remote man || 07/07/2004 17:43 Comments || Top||

#8  Actually, I thought the last panel was kinda funny. Crude, but funny. The Condi panel was So Not Funny.

I say we take a page from their book, and Visualize No Ted Rall. Everybody with me? Ommmmmmm...
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 07/07/2004 18:10 Comments || Top||

#9  All we need is fifty feet or so of 3/4" manila line, a convenient lamp-post, and immunity from prosecution.
Posted by: Mike || 07/07/2004 18:20 Comments || Top||

#10  content@uclick.com Email the syndicators and bitch.

Go here http://www.ucomics.com/contact/contact.phtml and email the sales department and tell them you'll never buy any of their stuff.

Email the ad department and tell them you'll never advertise on their site (it doesn't matter that you never would anyway, just say it).

Hell, email the support team and tell them that their site has been hacked by an enemy of America who goes by the name of "Ted R@ll".

If every Rantburger sends one or two emails it would be significant.

P.S. Fred, the Automatic Link-a-ma-tizer isn't working. It keeps putting the Rantburg URL in front of my intended link URL.
Posted by: Parabellum || 07/07/2004 19:40 Comments || Top||

#11  You either have talent, or you have have a "schtick". Rall has a "schtick" and he'll run it into the ground as long as he has a market that buys into it. Something like a certain fat slob "film maker".
Maybe someday someone comes along with a bigger "schtick". And hits Rall in the mouth with it about 10 or 15 thousand times.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 21:13 Comments || Top||

#12  Be sure and vote in our Ted Rall dead-pool at WoT Futures.

Event: Ted Rall assassinated
Group: Anyone
Narrative: Serious attempt to kill the evil clown by someone incensed at his comments (and not by, say, loan sharks, drug dealers or angry pimps.)
Window: 11 Months (6/9/2005)
Probability 15% entered by Atomic Conspiracy on 6/9/2004
Probability 45% entered by JAB on 6/9/2004
Probability 0% entered by JAB on 6/9/2004
Probability 75% entered by Rafael on 6/10/2004
Probability 35% entered by Rex Mundi on 6/15/2004
Probability 0% entered by tu3031 on 6/26/2004
Overall opinion is Unlikely (28%)
Current opinion is Unlikely (31%)

Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/07/2004 22:56 Comments || Top||

#13  Then again, therre's always the possibility that alarmed Democrats will do him in.
Posted by: Atomic Conspiracy || 07/07/2004 23:03 Comments || Top||

#14  or vote him in office
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 23:04 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Andrew Sullivan 'Fisks' sKerry's VP announcement speech
Posted by: Brett_the_Quarkian || 07/07/2004 16:22 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Wow, all we have to do to get energy independence is to vote for Kerry? That's the best deal since Al Gore invented the internet. Then again, maybe Kerry could just share his secret with us, what with him being a US Senator and all.

With the Edwards selection Kerry has solidified his position as the Candidate of Big Hair. Bush would have to appoint all of the Breck Girls in history to his cabinet to match this display of follicle power
Posted by: Matt || 07/07/2004 21:04 Comments || Top||

#2  I've grown so F'n tired of Andrew's All-Gay-Marriage-All-The-Time that I forgot how good a writer he can be when he takes his personal lifestyle issues out of it. Like Hitchens, a flawed, but deadly, assassin with a pen
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 21:40 Comments || Top||


Scumbag Ken Lay Indicted, Finally
Posted by: growler || 07/07/2004 17:19 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Michelle Malkin: Just your average Democrat donors
from Townhall (h/t Lucianne) - EFL
Watch your fingers, Donk children, Michelle’s flashing teeth!

Michelle Malkin / July 7, 2004
The self-proclaimed Party of the Little People is rolling in cash, and Democrats are positively gloating. "The strength of the small donor has helped level the financial playing field with the Bush campaign," Mary Beth Cahill, Sen. John Kerry’s campaign manager, crowed last week.

Just who are these "small donors" -- these ordinary Americans, these average Joes and Janes, filling the Democratic Party’s coffers?

They are regular folks such as Beth Dozoretz, Washington doyenne and suspected facilitator of the infamous Marc Rich pardon under the Clinton administration, and Bernie Schwartz, former CEO of the disgraced Loral Corp., which paid $20 million in fines for its too-cozy relations with China that apparently endangered national security under the Clinton administration. This year, for their prodigious giving habits, Dozoretz was designated a Democratic National Committee "trustee" and Schwartz was named a DNC "patriot."

(The Democrats, by the way, insisted on concealing the names of these "trustees" and "patriots" until the Washington Post shamed them into disclosing their identities.)
...more...

Ooooh, this is gonna hurt - assuming they have any sense of shame. Wait, I just answered my own question. Never mind - but never forget, either.

Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 8:27:54 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And here we go! The long-anticipated Rove counter-offensive begins.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 10:59 Comments || Top||

#2  The Dimbos would like to respond to this, but they're just too, too busy fighting for the middle class right this second. They'll get back to us when there's a letup in the fight.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Hey tu30331...do you and Raj have the Rantburg DNC convention bunker fortified yet? It's gonna be a loooong week up there in Fortress Boston...
Posted by: Seafarious || 07/07/2004 12:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Just bought the artillery, Seafarious. tu's securing the perimeter as we speak...
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2004 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  think moat! To the whackos it'll seem too much like taking a bath, effectively protecting you
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 13:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Securing the perimeter? Shit, they didn't seal off this much ground at Chernobyl...
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 16:48 Comments || Top||

#7  How the hell did/could the Post shame the Dims. Shame!? No que paso. Shame meet Dim, nope!
Posted by: Lucky || 07/08/2004 0:37 Comments || Top||


WHO IS JOHN EDWARDS? (Link)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/07/2004 02:09 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  bumper sticker

Support Malpractice Lawsuits - Vote Kerry Edwards
Posted by: mhw || 07/07/2004 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Clarence Darrow was a friend of mine. You're no Clarence Darrow.
Posted by: HL Mencken || 07/07/2004 10:08 Comments || Top||

#3  oooh I just can't wait for this scum to start harranging us with talk of "Health Care". and this from the liar who puts doctors, nurses, and hospitals out of business. He is a looter of the first order. A carpetbagger from the south. He won't bring in a single southern state in for the dhimmicrat ticket.
Posted by: Annie War || 07/07/2004 10:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Two words:

Breck. Girl.
Posted by: Chris W. || 07/07/2004 11:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Good one! 'Breck Girl'.

Maybe Kerry thinks, he & the one which needs a heavy dose of accent reduction lessons, are going to get elected on the 'National Hair platform'.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/07/2004 15:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Damn Mark... National Hair Platform!
Way good!
The NHP!

Vote Nair!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 15:15 Comments || Top||


No More Communion for Kerry
In a private memorandum, top Vatican prelate Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger told American bishops that Communion must be denied to Catholic politicians who support legal abortion.
Cardinal Ratzinger is the Prefect of the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, and is generally regarded as the Pope’s right-hand man. His memos are not "optional".
Posted by: Anonymoose || 07/07/2004 9:53:03 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pretty simple: Time has come to decide John Kerry: Are you Catholic only when its politically convenient?

Those days are over. You can be Cathoic, or you can be Pro-Choice, but you cannot be both.

Either take up your cross and bear the cost of being a Roman Catholic Christian, or leave the Church and its benefits behind with their attendent burdens.

Choose.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 1:09 Comments || Top||

#2  No (commun)ion, that's okay....kerry's happy with (commun)ism.
Posted by: Halfass Pete || 07/07/2004 1:11 Comments || Top||

#3  In Bush lingo, "Either you're with us or you're with the enemy."

Posted by: Capt America || 07/07/2004 1:44 Comments || Top||

#4  No, not "the enemy", just not one of us (Catholics). Cut off from what we believe is the best path to God's mercy - and deliberately done, so more's the pity for Kerry.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 2:10 Comments || Top||

#5  The link is bad.
Posted by: 3dc || 07/07/2004 2:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Does anybody have any idea of what fraction of the American bishops will obey and what fraction will defy the memo? (and what fraction will assent and never get around to enforcing it . . .) All I know I get from occasional newspaper articles, and I know how far to trust reporters writing about religion :-(
Posted by: James || 07/07/2004 13:12 Comments || Top||

#7  OS - more like 'Are you (insert issue here) only when its politically convenient'?

I've followed this assmunch for 20 years; the above is a concise statement of his core political philosophy.
Posted by: Raj || 07/07/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#8  Priest: The Body of Christ.....abortion: yes or no?

Parishioner: Yes.

Priest: Get out of here then. And no !%#$@ bread for you.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/07/2004 14:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Ratzinger? Ratzinger? Didn't he used to be Cliff Claven?
Posted by: Mercutio || 07/07/2004 15:17 Comments || Top||

#10  Those who operate pedophile priest churches should start throwing stones -- at those in favor of partial birth abortions. Nice try but no bread (or cigar). Or, were you a victim of a partial birth abortion?
Posted by: Capt America || 07/07/2004 19:13 Comments || Top||

#11  Capt America,

There’s a bit of a disconnect in your logic here. The Church should root out sinful, malignant priests who prey on the innocents, right? Because that activity is against the morals of the Church. But the Church should not root out sinful, malignant politics that preys on the innocents, right? Even though abortion has been condemned by the Church Fathers since the first century (and, yes, it was -- even back then).

What OS said was true. You can have your liberal politics, or you can have Catholic Communion -- you’re not entitled to both.
Posted by: cingold || 07/07/2004 19:22 Comments || Top||

#12  No wafer for you!
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 21:40 Comments || Top||

#13  Newsmax covered this - I think it could be an issue, not for Kerry, but more likely for Lil Tommy Dasshole
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 21:46 Comments || Top||

#14  I'm w/Capt A to a degree. Give me a break, more then 50% of Catholics should also be denied communion because they support (tacitly or otherwise) euthanasia, pro-choice, the death penalty & contraception. I don't like Kerry's ass either, he was wrong for flaunting "I'm a big Catholic look at me" but this is stupid. I also don't agree w/the assertion that one is either in or out as far as religion is concerned because we all fall way short everyday. If the church doesn't want to give him communion then that is its right, but to say any person who personally doesn't agree w/every church tenet should leave the Catholic church is wrong. As far as I'm concerned, organized religion should stay out of making governmental policy or trying to coerce it(i.e. church & state), the founding father's new this to be true. I'm not talking about the discussion of God in a public forum which I find fully acceptable. I'm talking about the next thing you know - every Catholic politician should vote against the war because the Pope is against it. This sh*t opens up an incremental slippery slope. The church should be above this. An elected official is responsible for all his constituency and has to vote for the best interest of all, not only those who are of his faith. The politician's votes are about all Americans not just what the Catholic church teaches. (Obviously, not all Americans give a f*ck what the Catholic church thinks.)

For the record, I am a Catholic and I do not condone (for my own life) nor like the practice of abortion. I've known two very close relatives who had them and it was sickening that there was nothing I could do about it (one I didn't even know about until afterwards). However, I know the realities of life - I don't want young girls coat hangering themselves, throwing themselves down flights of stairs (which I've seen done), or bleeding to death in some back alley from some amateur saw-bones; I would love to see infants put up for adoption to loving families that really want them rather than pregnancies be coldly terminated. So my consience tends to be at odds w/my church - so be it. I'm not leaving the church, but if they wanted to deny me communion then that is their right. In order to save those who are already alive my feeling is that a necessary evil may have to be ensured. Therefore, I stay pro-choice. BTW - I'm also w/Capt A on other thing, the church needs to put its own house in order in regards to the pedophillia fiasco - if some priest ever messed with my son they'd find out my stance on the death penalty.
Posted by: Jarhead || 07/07/2004 23:18 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
WH to Nominate FJ Harvey for Army Secretary
NYT Reg Req’d (h/t Lucianne)
By ERIC SCHMITT / Published: July 7, 2004
WASHINGTON, July 6 — In a surprising development, the White House plans to nominate Francis J. Harvey, a defense industry engineer known for his business acumen, to be the new secretary of the Army, Congressional officials said Tuesday.

The Army job has been filled by an interim appointee for more than a year, and with time running out in this Senate session, most Army and Congressional officials expected it would stay that way until next year, after the presidential and Congressional elections.

But in a reflection of a desire to have stronger leadership at the Army in the midst of the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal, strains on Army forces worldwide and a major restructuring of the service, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is nearing a decision to recommend that President Bush select Mr. Harvey for the job, officials said. Two Senate aides said the Pentagon had notified them Tuesday that the White House would announce Mr. Harvey’s selection in the next few days.

"The Army has a full plate with a lot of difficult issues, and has not had a service secretary for more than a year," said a senior defense official. "We need an Army secretary."

Mr. Harvey, a former chief operating officer for a division of the Westinghouse Electric Corporation, was nominated in November 2003 to be the Pentagon’s assistant secretary for networks and information integration, in effect, the department’s chief information officer overseeing its vast military command and communications systems.

Mr. Harvey’s nomination as an assistant secretary cleared the Senate Armed Services Committee earlier this year. It has been held up for final Senate approval, along with about 10 other civilian nominations, because of a dispute between the Defense Department and Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, over a plan for the Air Force to lease refueling planes from the Boeing Company.

Under the Pentagon proposal, the White House will renominate Mr. Harvey for the top Army job, and then bank on the fact that he has already undergone a security background check and a Senate hearing to squeeze him through the narrow window remaining on the Senate calendar this election year. Alternatively, he could be installed as a recess appointee, although there was no indication that Pentagon officials plan to use that approach.

Mr. Harvey held several managerial and executive positions at Westinghouse from 1969 to 1997. He earned a bachelor’s degree in metallurgy engineering and material science from the University of Notre Dame, and a doctoral degree in the same field from the University of Pennsylvania.

Les Brownlee, a decorated Vietnam veteran who is the under secretary of the Army, has been serving as the acting Army secretary since Thomas E. White, a former executive of Enron Corporation, resigned abruptly last April after repeated clashes with Mr. Rumsfeld. Mr. Brownlee, a retired Army colonel and Silver Star recipient, is widely respected among the Army rank and file and on Capitol Hill, where he was a longtime Senate aide.

The White House then nominated Air Force Secretary James G. Roche to fill the job, but Mr. Roche asked in March that his name be withdrawn after the selection became embroiled in a sexual assault scandal at the Air Force Academy and the dispute over the Boeing plane lease. Mr. Roche remains the Air Force secretary.

Senior Pentagon officials have expressed growing exasperation that several top civilian positions remain bottled up in the Senate because of the dispute with Mr. McCain. The promotions and reassignments of military officers have been approved.

"Everyone in the world wants to help us fix the Army, except give us an Army secretary," the senior defense official said.

By any standard, the Army is facing a daunting array of problems and challenges. It is stretched dangerously thin as it struggles to maintain more than 115,000 soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as smaller deployments elsewhere. It is restructuring its forces into brigade-size units and is revamping its mix of active-duty soldiers and reservists.

It is preparing to recall for year-long tours 5,600 former soldiers who had left the service and not joined the reserves. They would serve mostly in Iraq and Afghanistan. This month, Mr. Brownlee is expected to make public a broad new Army report that concludes that serious problems in training, organization and policy regarding military detention operations in Iraq and Afghanistan contributed to the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison.

"The Army really needs some strong leadership," said one military official. "Brownlee is a nice guy, but with the Army at war and lots of changes going on back home, I think there is a perception that they need to put a confirmed secretary in the position who can bring some new vigor to the effort."

In this election-shortened campaign year, however, it would be difficult to win Senate approval for Mr. Harvey, even if Mr. McCain relented on his nomination. "That’s a big nominee to get through right now," said a Senate Republican aide. "And it’s getting late for any nominations."
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#1  It is preparing to recall for year-long tours 5,600 former soldiers who had left the service and not joined the reserves.

Make that 'drilling reserves' and the NYT would be corrrect. Guess they were distracted by their drooling over an opportunity to work 'Abu Ghraib' into the article.
Posted by: Pappy || 07/07/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Weeeel, I just plain like large rabbits.
Posted by: Jimmy || 07/07/2004 20:15 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Games Delayed by Dispute Over That Big Gulf’s Name
From IranMania
... the Head of the National Olympic Committee Wednesday said the row between Iran and Saudi Arabia on the name of "Persian Gulf" was settled and the country will dispatch sportsmen to the peninsula where the first Islamic States` Games is held. ... The organizing committee printed a map on which the "Persian" Gulf was renamed by the "Arabian" Gulf. The NOC supremo had already warned Iran would not participate in the games if Saudi officials did not give a reasonable response for the mistake. ....
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Good News: Dengue, TB drugs may be ready by 2012
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 09:14 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bad news: Doctors and patients in Third World countries won't follow dosage and prescription procedures and the bugs will develop an immunity to these new drugs also.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 07/08/2004 0:23 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Thailand confirms bird flu cases
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran Prohibits Visits to Christians Imprisoned in Unknown Location
From Compass Direct
More than five weeks after their arrest, Iranian Christian pastor Khosroo Yusefi and another church leader remain imprisoned in an unknown jail. Yusefi and a fellow Christian from Chalous are believed to be held in the vicinity of Sari, a city near the Caspian seacoast. But since June 8, when other church leaders jailed with them were released, local Christians have been unable to make contact with the two remaining prisoners. “Nobody can visit them yet,” an Iranian Christian told Compass, “and they have not been allowed to see a lawyer.” Yusefi had been arrested and imprisoned on May 23 with his wife Nasrin and two teenage children. A week later, his family was released and allowed to return home. Converted from the Baha’i religion nearly 20 years ago, Yusefi was overseeing a number of unregistered Assemblies of God house churches at the time of his arrest. The families of the church leaders arrested in May now have no means of regular financial support.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 10:08:56 PM || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pastor Khosroo Yusefi has now been released.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 22:12 Comments || Top||


Russia holds key to Iran’s nuclear ambitions
Iran has appealed to Russia, which is helping build its first nuclear power plant, not to yield to US pressure to abandon the multi-million dollar deal, the official news agency IRNA reported yesterday. "In light of the good relations and expanding cooperation between Tehran and Moscow, Iran expects Russia not to yield to the US biased approach and constant political pressure," Foreign Minister Kamal Kharazi was quoted as telling visiting Russian security chief Igor Ivanov.
"Or we'll cancel that check."
Ivanov held a string of meetings Iran, which according to Iranian press reports were focused on the nuclear issue, the ongoing dispute over sharing Caspian Sea resources and the situation in the Caucasus. Russia stands to earn $US800 million ($1.13 billion) from building a nuclear power station at the southern Iranian city of Bushehr, but is facing a barrage of calls from Washington to abandon the lucrative deal. The United States sees Iran’s atomic energy program as a cover for the development of nuclear weapons, but Moscow has so far refused to ditch the contract - credited by some as having saved its struggling atomic industry. Instead, Russia has been pressing Iran to continue cooperation with inspectors from the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which last month criticised the Islamic republic for being less than forthcoming over its activities.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/07/2004 2:00:04 AM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And when Moscow is destroyed by an Islamic nuke, the Russians stand to lose more than $US800 million.
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2004 9:29 Comments || Top||

#2  ed: And when Moscow is destroyed by an Islamic nuke, the Russians stand to lose more than $US800 million.

More like $800 billion. It's pretty clear that the Russian government is acting at variance with Russia's national security interests.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 07/07/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#3  The Chechens await project completion.
Posted by: Super Hose || 07/07/2004 11:16 Comments || Top||

#4  The Chechens await project completion.

Bingo, Super Hose.

It's really refreshing to see some of the renegade superpowers having to rethink their drinks when it comes to fomenting major unrest. Just like the Chinese have suddenly had to realize that their precious Three Gorges Dam is also a superb strategic target, perhaps the Russians are finally realizing who's on Iran's Christmas list when their newly assembled nuclear packages start getting handed out.

It's about time for Putin to purchase a clue. He can do it now, or during the decontamination of Moscow.
Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 15:28 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks
What is the hukm for the one who makes istihlal?
From Al Muhajiroun
Al Takhliyah qabl Al Tahliyyah is one of the fundamental principles of Al Tawheed, that to give up the shirk and taghout is a prerequisite to belief in Allah (swt) exclusively. Another fundamental principle is Al Talazum bayna Al Zaahiri wal baatin, that there is moulding and unison between what is inner and outer, that we judge by the apparent not the hidden. ... We always judge people by the apparent in relation to kufr and imaan. ... We should not listen to these zanadiqah who want to excuse this kufr, but must follow the ulemah of Haq, those ulemah of Jihad. Ahmed ibn hanbal used to say, in the time of conflict to refer only to the ulemah of Jihad because they know better.

There is another vital principle, that “whosoever makes the lawful unlawful and makes the unlawful lawful is Kafir.” For example, those who make the mubah haram are kaafir, and those who permit the haram, they are kaafir. This principle, is a principle from the principles of Usul ul Deen, Sa’eed bin Jubair, a tabi’ is the one who declared Al Hajjaj to be kaafir, he said, “If anybody makes the unlawful lawful, or makes the lawful unlawful is kaafir.” Fard, Haram, Mandoub, Mubah, All these are the Haq of Allah and takfeer is also the haq of Allah (swt), he is the only one who can call someone kaafir and the only one who can say what is fard, mandoub and so on. Furthermore, we MUST declare the one who Allah called kaafir as kaafir. ... Anybody who says something is halal, and Allah called it haram, he is kaafir. However if someone has a prevention of takfeer e.g. a new Muslim who embraced Islam newly and does not yet know what is halal and what is haram. ....

We must ask ourselves honestly, what is more istihlal and shirk than the laws prevalent in the Muslim and non-muslim lands today? Furthermore, how can we call those leaders who commit this istihlal anything except kafir? We must declare them kafir and beware from them, if we obey them in any of their laws we will become Mushrik. I pray to Allah to revive the Tawheed in this ummah and to protect us from worship and obeying those Tawagheet like Fahd and Musharraf, who shamelessly comment over and overturn the hukm of Allah (swt).
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 10:42:42 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Okay! All righty then!
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 23:29 Comments || Top||


A View from the Eye of the Storm
Fred, Mods, delete if you like.
This is a piece that was sent to me via email. There is no external link to it. It is a speech delivered by Haim Harari at a meeting of the International Advisory Board of a large multi-national corporation, April 2004.
Bio: HAIM HARARI, a theoretical physicist, is the Chair, Davidson Institute of Science Education, and Former President, from 1988 to 2001, of the Weizmann Institute of Science.

During his years as President of the Institute, it entered numerous new scientific fields and projects, built 47 new buildings, raised one Billion Dollars in philanthropic money, hired more than half of its current tenured Professors and became one of the highest royalty-earning academic organizations in the world.

Throughout all his adult life, he has made major contributions to three different fields: Particle Physics Research on the international scene, Science Education in the Israeli school system and Science Administration and Policy Making.

As you know, I usually provide the scientific and technological "entertainment" in our meetings, but, on this occasion, our Chairman suggested that I present my own personal view on events in the part of the world from which I come. I have never been and I will never be a Government official and I have no privileged information. My perspective is entirely based on what I see, on what I read and on the fact that my family has lived in this region for almost 200 years. You may regard my views as those of the proverbial taxi driver, which you are supposed to question, when you visit a country.

I could have shared with you some fascinating facts and some personal thoughts about the Israeli-Arab conflict. However, I will touch upon it only in passing. I prefer to devote most of my remarks to the broader picture of the region and its place in world events. I refer to the entire area between Pakistan and Morocco, which is predominantly Arab, predominantly Moslem, but includes many non-Arab and also significant non-Moslem minorities.

Why do I put aside Israel and its own immediate neighborhood? Because Israel and any problems related to it, in spite of what you might read or hear in the world media, is not the central issue, and has never been the central issue in the upheaval in the region. Yes, there is a 100 year-old Israeli-Arab conflict, but it is not where the main show is. The millions who died in the Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with Israel. The mass murder happening right now in Sudan, where the Arab Moslem regime is massacring its black Christian citizens, has nothing to do with Israel. The frequent reports from Algeria about the murders of hundreds of civilian in one village or another by other Algerians have nothing to do with Israel. Saddam Hussein did not invade Kuwait, endangered Saudi Arabia and butchered his own people because of Israel. Egypt did not use poison gas against Yemen in the 60’s because of Israel. Assad the Father did not kill tens of thousands of his own citizens in one week in El Hamma in Syria because of Israel. The Taliban control of Afghanistan and the civil war there had nothing to do with Israel. The Libyan blowing up of the Pan-Am flight had nothing to do with Israel, and I could go on and on and on.

The root of the trouble is that this entire Moslem region is totally dysfunctional, by any standard of the word, and would have been so even if Israel would have joined the Arab league and an independent Palestine would have existed for 100 years. The 22 member countries of the Arab league, from Mauritania to the Gulf States, have a total population of 300 millions, larger than the US and almost as large as the EU before its expansion. They have a land area larger than either the US or all of Europe. These 22 countries, with all their oil and natural resources, have a combined GDP smaller than that of Netherlands plus Belgium and equal to half of the GDP of California alone. Within this meager GDP, the gaps between rich and poor are beyond belief and too many of the rich made their money not by succeeding in business, but by being corrupt rulers. The social status of women is far below what it was in the Western World 150 years ago. Human rights are below any reasonable standard, in spite of the grotesque fact that Libya was elected Chair of the UN Human Rights commission. According to a report prepared by a committee of Arab intellectuals and published under the auspices of the U.N., the number of books translated by the entire Arab world is much smaller than what little Greece alone translates. The total number of scientific publications of 300 million Arabs is less than that of 6 million Israelis. Birth rates in the region are very high, increasing the poverty, the social gaps and the cultural decline. And all of this is happening in a region, which only 30 years ago, was believed to be the next wealthy part of the world, and in a Moslem area, which developed, at some point in history, one of the most advanced cultures in the world.

It is fair to say that this creates an unprecedented breeding ground for cruel dictators, terror networks, fanaticism, incitement, suicide murders and general decline. It is also a fact that almost everybody in the region blames this situation on the United States, on Israel, on Western Civilization, on Judaism and Christianity, on anyone and anything, except themselves.

Do I say all of this with the satisfaction of someone discussing the failings of his enemies? On the contrary, I firmly believe that the world would have been a much better place and my own neighborhood would have been much more pleasant and peaceful, if things were different.

I should also say a word about the millions of decent, honest, good people who are either devout Moslems or are not very religious but grew up in Moslem families. They are double victims of an outside world, which now develops Islamophobia and of their own environment, which breaks their heart by being totally dysfunctional. The problem is that the vast silent majority of these Moslems are not part of the terror and of the incitement but they also do not stand up against it. They become accomplices, by omission, and this applies to political leaders, intellectuals, business people and many others. Many of them can certainly tell right from wrong, but are afraid to express their views.

The events of the last few years have amplified four issues, which have always existed, but have never been as rampant as in the present upheaval in the region. These are the four main pillars of the current World Conflict, or perhaps we should already refer to it as "the undeclared World War III." I have no better name for the present situation. A few more years may pass before everybody acknowledges that it is a World War, but we are already well into it.

The first element is the suicide murder. Suicide murders are not a new invention but they have been made popular, if I may use this expression, only lately. Even after September 11, it seems that most of the Western World does not yet understand this weapon. It is a very potent psychological weapon. Its real direct impact is relatively minor. The total number of casualties from hundreds of suicide murders within Israel in the last three years is much smaller than those due to car accidents. September 11 was quantitatively much less lethal than many earthquakes. More people die from AIDS in one day in Africa than all the Russians who died in the hands of Chechnya-based Moslem suicide murderers since that conflict started. Saddam killed every month more people than all those who died from suicide murders since the Coalition occupation of Iraq.

So what is all the fuss about suicide killings? It creates headlines. It is spectacular. It is frightening. It is a very cruel death with bodies dismembered and horrible severe lifelong injuries to many of the wounded. It is always shown on television in great detail. One such murder, with the help of hysterical media coverage, can destroy the tourism industry of a country for quite a while, as it did in Bali and in Turkey.

But the real fear comes from the undisputed fact that no defense and no preventive measures can succeed against a determined suicide murderer. This has not yet penetrated the thinking of the Western World. The U.S. and Europe are constantly improving their defense against the last murder, not the next one. We may arrange for the best airport security in the world. But if you want to murder by suicide, you do not have to board a plane in order to explode yourself and kill many people. Who could stop a suicide murder in the midst of the crowded line waiting to be checked by the airport metal detector? How about the lines to the check-in counters in a busy travel period? Put a metal detector in front of every train station in Spain and the terrorists will get the buses. Protect the buses and they will explode in movie theaters, concert halls, supermarkets, shopping malls, schools and hospitals. Put guards in front of every concert hall and there will always be a line of people to be checked by the guards and this line will be the target, not to speak of killing the guards themselves. You can somewhat reduce your vulnerability by preventive and defensive measures and by strict border controls but not eliminate it and definitely not win the war in a defensive way. And it is a war!

What is behind the suicide murders? Money, power and cold-blooded murderous incitement, nothing else. It has nothing to do with true fanatic religious beliefs. No Moslem preacher has ever blown himself up. No son of an Arab politician or religious leader has ever blown himself up. No relative of anyone influential has done it. Wouldn’t you expect some of the religious leaders to do it themselves, or to talk their sons into doing it, if this is truly a supreme act of religious fervor? Aren’t they interested in the benefits of going to Heaven? Instead, they send outcast women, naive children, retarded people and young incited hotheads. They promise them the delights, mostly sexual, of the next world, and pay their families handsomely after the supreme act is performed and enough innocent people are dead.

Suicide murders also have nothing to do with poverty and despair. The poorest region in the world, by far, is Africa. It never happens there. There are numerous desperate people in the world, in different cultures, countries and continents. Desperation does not provide anyone with explosives, reconnaissance and transportation. There was certainly more despair in Saddam’s Iraq then in Paul Bremmer’s Iraq, and no one exploded himself. A suicide murder is simply a horrible, vicious weapon of cruel, inhuman, cynical, well-funded terrorists, with no regard to human life, including the life of their fellow countrymen, but with very high regard to their own affluent well-being and their hunger for power.

The only way to fight this new "popular" weapon is identical to the only way in which you fight organized crime or pirates on the high seas: the offensive way. Like in the case of organized crime, it is crucial that the forces on the offensive be united and it is crucial to reach the top of the crime pyramid. You cannot eliminate organized crime by arresting the little drug dealer in the street corner. You must go after the head of the "Family."

If part of the public supports it, others tolerate it, many are afraid of it and some try to explain it away by poverty or by a miserable childhood, organized crime will thrive and so will terrorism. The United States understands this now, after September 11. Russia is beginning to understand it. Turkey understands it well. I am very much afraid that most of Europe still does not understand it. Unfortunately, it seems that Europe will understand it only after suicide murders will arrive in Europe in a big way. In my humble opinion, this will definitely happen. The Spanish trains and the Istanbul bombings are only the beginning. The unity of the Civilized World in fighting this horror is absolutely indispensable. Until Europe wakes up, this unity will not be achieved.

The second ingredient is words, more precisely lies. Words can be lethal. They kill people. It is often said that politicians, diplomats and perhaps also lawyers and business people must sometimes lie, as part of their professional life. But the norms of politics and diplomacy are childish, in comparison with the level of incitement and total absolute deliberate fabrications, which have reached new heights in the region we are talking about. An incredible number of people in the Arab world believe that September 11 never happened, or was an American provocation or, even better, a Jewish plot.

You all remember the Iraqi Minister of Information, Mr. Mouhamad Said al-Sahaf and his press conferences when the US forces were already inside Baghdad. Disinformation at time of war is an accepted tactic. But to stand, day after day, and to make such preposterous statements, known to everybody to be lies, without even being ridiculed in your own milieu, can only happen in this region. Mr. Sahaf eventually became a popular icon as a court jester, but this did not stop some allegedly respectable newspapers from giving him equal time. It also does not prevent the Western press from giving credence, every day, even now, to similar liars. After all, if you want to be an anti-Semite, there are subtle ways of doing it. You do not have to claim that the holocaust never happened and that the Jewish temple in Jerusalem never existed. But millions of Moslems are told by their leaders that this is the case. When these same leaders make other statements, the Western media! report them as if they could be true.

It is a daily occurrence that the same people who finance, arm and dispatch suicide murderers, condemn the act in English in front of western TV cameras, talking to a world audience, which even partly believes them. It is a daily routine to hear the same leader making opposite statements in Arabic to his people and in English to the rest of the world. Incitement by Arab TV, accompanied by horror pictures of mutilated bodies, has become a powerful weapon of those who lie, distort and want to destroy everything. Little children are raised on deep hatred and on admiration of so-called martyrs, and the Western World does not notice it because its own TV sets are mostly tuned to soap operas and game shows. I recommend to you, even though most of you do not understand Arabic, to watch Al Jazeera, from time to time. You will not believe your own eyes.

But words also work in other ways, more subtle. A demonstration in Berlin, with people carrying banners supporting Saddam’s regime and featuring three-year old babies dressed as suicide murderers, is defined by the press and by political leaders as a "peace demonstration." You may support or oppose the Iraq war, but to refer to fans of Saddam, Arafat or bin Laden as peace activists is a bit too much. A woman walks into an Israeli restaurant in mid-day, eats, observes families with old people and children eating their lunch in the adjacent tables and pays the bill. She then blows herself up, killing 20 people, including many children, with heads and arms rolling around in the restaurant. She is called "martyr" by several Arab leaders and "activist" by the European press. Dignitaries condemn the act but visit her bereaved family and the money flows.

There is a new game in town: The actual murderer is called "the military wing," the one who pays him, equips him and sends him is now called "the political wing" and the head of the operation is called the "spiritual leader." There are numerous other examples of such Orwellian nomenclature, used every day not only by terror chiefs but also by Western media.. These words are much more dangerous than many people realize. They provide an emotional infrastructure for atrocities. It was Joseph Goebels who said that if you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it. He is now being outperformed by his successors.

The third aspect is money. Huge amounts of money, which could have solved many social problems in this dysfunctional part of the world, are channeled into three concentric spheres supporting death and murder. In the inner circle are the terrorists themselves. The money funds their travel, explosives, hideouts and permanent search for soft vulnerable targets. They are surrounded by a second wider circle of direct supporters, planners, commanders, preachers, all of whom make a living, usually a very comfortable living, by serving as terror infrastructure. Finally, we find the third circle of so-called religious, educational and welfare organizations, which actually do some good, feed the hungry and provide some schooling, but brainwash a new generation with hatred, lies and ignorance. This circle operates mostly through mosques, madrasas and other religious establishments but also through inciting electronic and printed media. It is this circle that makes sure that women remain inferior, that democracy is unthinkable and that exposure to the outside world is minimal. It is also that circle that leads the way in blaming everybody outside the Moslem world, for the miseries of the region.

Figuratively speaking, this outer circle is the guardian, which makes sure that the people look and listen inwards to the inner circle of terror and incitement, rather than to the world outside. Some parts of this same outer circle actually operate as a result of fear from, or blackmail by, the inner circles. The horrifying added factor is the high birth rate. Half of the population of the Arab world is under the age of 20, the most receptive age to incitement, guaranteeing two more generations of blind hatred.

Of the three circles described above, the inner circles are primarily financed by terrorist states like Iran and Syria, until recently also by Iraq and Libya and earlier also by some of the Communist regimes. These states, as well as the Palestinian Authority, are the safe havens of the wholesale murder vendors. The outer circle is largely financed by Saudi Arabia, but also by donations from certain Moslem communities in the United States and Europe and, to a smaller extent, by donations of European Governments to various NGO’s and by certain United Nations organizations, whose goals may be noble, but they are infested and exploited by agents of the outer circle. The Saudi regime, of course, will be the next victim of major terror, when the inner circle will explode into the outer circle. The Saudis are beginning to understand it, but they fight the inner circles, while still financing the infrastructure at the outer circle.

Some of the leaders of these various circles live very comfortably on their loot. You meet their children in the best private schools in Europe, not in the training camps of suicide murderers. The Jihad "soldiers" join packaged death tours to Iraq and other hotspots, while some of their leaders ski in Switzerland. Mrs. Arafat, who lives in Paris with her daughter, receives tens of thousands of dollars per month from the allegedly bankrupt Palestinian Authority while a typical local ringleader of the Al-Aksa brigade, reporting to Arafat, receives only a cash payment of a couple of hundred dollars, for performing murders at the retail level.

The fourth element of the current world conflict is the total breaking of all laws. The civilized world believes in democracy, the rule of law, including international law, human rights, free speech and free press, among other liberties. There are naive old-fashioned habits such as respecting religious sites and symbols, not using ambulances and hospitals for acts of war, avoiding the mutilation of dead bodies and not using children as human shields or human bombs. Never in history, not even in the Nazi period, was there such total disregard of all of the above as we observe now. Every student of political science debates how you prevent an anti-democratic force from winning a democratic election and abolishing democracy. Other aspects of a civilized society must also have limitations. Can a policeman open fire on someone trying to kill him? Can a government listen to phone conversations of terrorists and drug dealers? Does free speech protects you when you shout "fire" in a crowded theater? Should there be a death penalty for deliberate multiple murders? These are the old-fashioned dilemmas. But now we have an entire new set.

Do you raid a mosque which serves as a terrorist ammunition storage? Do you return fire, if you are attacked from a hospital? Do you storm a church taken over by terrorists who took the priests hostages? Do you search every ambulance after a few suicide murderers use ambulances to reach their targets? Do you strip every woman because one pretended to be pregnant and carried a suicide bomb on her belly? Do you shoot back at someone trying to kill you, standing deliberately behind a group of children? Do you raid terrorist headquarters, hidden in a mental hospital? Do you shoot an arch-murderer who deliberately moves from one location to another, always surrounded by children? All of these happen daily in Iraq and in the Palestinian areas. What do you do? Well, you do not want to face the dilemma. But it cannot be avoided.

Suppose, for the sake of discussion, that someone would openly stay in a well-known address in Teheran, hosted by the Iranian Government and financed by it, executing one atrocity after another in Spain or in France, killing hundreds of innocent people, accepting responsibility for the crimes, promising in public TV interviews to do more of the same, while the Government of Iran issues public condemnations of his acts but continues to host him, invite him to official functions and treat him as a great dignitary. I leave it to you as homework to figure out what Spain or France would have done, in such a situation.

The problem is that the civilized world is still having illusions about the rule of law in a totally lawless environment. It is trying to play ice hockey by sending a ballerina ice-skater into the rink, or trying to knock out a heavyweight boxer with a chess player. In the same way that no country has a law against cannibals eating its prime minister, because such an act is unthinkable, international law does not address killers shooting from hospitals, mosques and ambulances, while being protected by their Government or society. International law does not know how to handle someone who sends children to throw stones, stands behind them and shoots with immunity and cannot be arrested because he is sheltered by a Government. International law does not know how to deal with a leader of murderers who is royally and comfortably hosted by a country which pretends to condemn his acts or just claims to be too weak to arrest him.. The amazing thing is that all of these crooks demand protection under international law and define all those who attack them as war criminals, with some Western media repeating the allegations. The good news is that all of this is temporary, because the evolution of international law has always adapted itself to reality. The punishment for suicide murder should be death or arrest before the murder, not during and not after. After every world war, the rules of international law have changed and the same will happen after the present one. But during the twilight zone, a lot of harm can be done.

The picture I described here is not pretty. What can we do about it? In the short run, only fight and win. In the long run - only educate the next generation and open it to the world. The inner circles can and must be destroyed by force. The outer circle cannot be eliminated by force. Here we need financial starvation of the organizing elite, more power to women, more education, counter propaganda, boycott whenever feasible and access to Western media, Internet and the international scene. Above all, we need a total absolute unity and determination of the civilized world against all three circles of evil.

Allow me, for a moment, to depart from my alleged role as a taxi driver and return to science. When you have a malignant tumor, you may remove the tumor itself surgically. You may also starve it by preventing new blood from reaching it from other parts of the body, thereby preventing new "supplies" from expanding the tumor. If you want to be sure, it is best to do both.

But before you fight and win, by force or otherwise, you have to realize that you are in a war, and this may take Europe a few more years. In order to win, it is necessary to first eliminate the terrorist regimes, so that no Government in the world will serve as a safe haven for these people. I do not want to comment here on whether the American-led attack on Iraq was justified from the point of view of weapons of mass destruction or any other pre-war argument, but I can look at the post-war map of Western Asia. Now that Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya are out, two and a half terrorist states remain: Iran, Syria and Lebanon, the latter being a Syrian colony. Perhaps Sudan should be added to the list. As a result of the conquest of Afghanistan and Iraq, both Iran and Syria are now totally surrounded by territories unfriendly to them. Iran is encircled by Afghanistan, by the Gulf States, Iraq and the Moslem republics of the former Soviet Union. Syria is surrounded by Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and Israel. This is a significant strategic change and it applies strong pressure on the terrorist countries. It is not surprising that Iran is so active in trying to incite a Shiite uprising in Iraq. I do not know if the American plan was actually to encircle both Iran and Syria, but that is the resulting situation.

In my humble opinion, the number one danger to the world today is Iran and its regime. It definitely has ambitions to rule vast areas and to expand in all directions. It has an ideology, which claims supremacy over Western culture. It is ruthless. It has proven that it can execute elaborate terrorist acts without leaving too many traces, using Iranian Embassies. It is clearly trying to develop Nuclear Weapons. Its so-called moderates and conservatives play their own virtuoso version of the "good-cop versus bad-cop" game. Iran sponsors Syrian terrorism, it is certainly behind much of the action in Iraq, it is fully funding the Hezbollah and, through it, the Palestinian Hamas and Islamic Jihad, it performed acts of terror at least in Europe and in South America and probably also in Uzbekhistan and Saudi Arabia and it truly leads a multi-national terror consortium, which includes, as minor players, Syria, Lebanon and certain Shiite elements in Iraq. Nevertheless, most European countries still trade with Iran, try to appease it and refuse to read the clear signals.

In order to win the war it is also necessary to dry the financial resources of the terror conglomerate. It is pointless to try to understand the subtle differences between the Sunni terror of Al Qaida and Hamas and the Shiite terror of Hezbollah, Sadr and other Iranian inspired enterprises. When it serves their business needs, all of them collaborate beautifully.

It is crucial to stop Saudi and other financial support of the outer circle, which is the fertile breeding ground of terror. It is important to monitor all donations from the Western World to Islamic organizations, to monitor the finances of international relief organizations and to react with forceful economic measures to any small sign of financial aid to any of the three circles of terrorism. It is also important to act decisively against the campaign of lies and fabrications and to monitor those Western media who collaborate with it out of naivety, financial interests or ignorance.

Above all, never surrender to terror. No one will ever know whether the recent elections in Spain would have yielded a different result, if not for the train bombings a few days earlier. But it really does not matter. What matters is that the terrorists believe that they caused the result and that they won by driving Spain out of Iraq. The Spanish story will surely end up being extremely costly to other European countries, including France, who is now expelling inciting preachers and forbidding veils and including others who sent troops to Iraq. In the long run, Spain itself will pay even more.

Is the solution a democratic Arab world? If by democracy we mean free elections but also free press, free speech, a functioning judicial system, civil liberties, equality to women, free international travel, exposure to international media and ideas, laws against racial incitement and against defamation, and avoidance of lawless behavior regarding hospitals, places of worship and children, then yes, democracy is the solution. If democracy is just free elections, it is likely that the most fanatic regime will be elected, the one whose incitement and fabrications are the most inflammatory. We have seen it already in Algeria and, to a certain extent, in Turkey. It will happen again, if the ground is not prepared very carefully. On the other hand, a certain transition democracy, as in Jordan, may be a better temporary solution, paving the way for the real thing, perhaps in the same way that an immediate sudden democracy did not work in Russia and would not have! worked in China.

I have no doubt that the civilized world will prevail. But the longer it takes us to understand the new landscape of this war, the more costly and painful the victory will be. Europe, more than any other region, is the key. Its understandable recoil from wars, following the horrors of World War II, may cost thousands of additional innocent lives, before the tide will turn.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 12:34:31 AM || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Youch, that was LOOOOONG - next time generate a free website on geocities (or similar) to post it, then edit for length & post a synopsis here and a link to the geocities site.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 1:33 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks for the read. I guess the Geneva Convention is out then? Perhaps we should send Gore to the Middle East so he can sweat on them and holler?

It's time to strap it on, but getting beyond the moonbats is a struggle (could be a deadly one).

Posted by: Capt America || 07/07/2004 1:42 Comments || Top||

#3  The article is at

http://www.geocities.com/rantburg/

If you want to trim the above and link to it, go ahead.

I am mailing the registration info for that to Fred so we can use it as a "spare" area for things that are not on the web.

I suggest everyone get their own though.
Posted by: OldSpook || 07/07/2004 1:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Den Beste already blogged this and put a copy up on his website.

What happened to Fred's old core dump site?
Posted by: someone || 07/07/2004 2:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Many thanks for posting this, Dotcom!
I somehow missed it at Den Beste's but it's a must read.
Posted by: Jen || 07/07/2004 5:21 Comments || Top||

#6  Excellent! Thank you, Jen, for posting this article.
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/07/2004 6:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Fits in nicely with my own view. Relentless targeting of the meanies and denial of such targeting. A bitch slap to those who try to hide behind international law. It should become very uncool to be in the jihadie camp. Nasty but thats what it will take to win this war.

As in, what does a victory in this war look like, the status quo? Airport security, train security, security, security and more security. No the victory should look like peace in the valley.

There should be no borders in the WoT. If a gov turns a blind eye to the meanies, we should turn a blind eye to their soverignity.

Lets face it, islam is the vehicle for recruiting the fodder. So those that do the recruiting, the spiritual leaders and the money guys (be it banks that specialize in numbered accounts) should be attacked.

Free the Muslims, destroy the pillars.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/07/2004 12:32 Comments || Top||

#8  "Lucky, my very good friend?

"Yes Abu, thank you for that smile."

"Shouldn't we wait until many more are killed by the brigades of islam's holy fighters?"

"I see your point Abu, but of course those hits will be timed to allow public sentimate to cool in between."

"Ah yes, many more need to die first then."
Posted by: Lucky || 07/07/2004 12:44 Comments || Top||

#9  These are the four main pillars of the current World Conflict, or perhaps we should already refer to it as "the undeclared World War III." I have no better name for the present situation. A few more years may pass before everybody acknowledges that it is a World War, but we are already well into it.

It's nice to see someone openly admit this.

Do you raid a mosque which serves as a terrorist ammunition storage? Do you return fire, if you are attacked from a hospital? Do you storm a church taken over by terrorists who took the priests hostages? Do you search every ambulance after a few suicide murderers use ambulances to reach their targets? Do you strip every woman because one pretended to be pregnant and carried a suicide bomb on her belly? Do you shoot back at someone trying to kill you, standing deliberately behind a group of children? Do you raid terrorist headquarters, hidden in a mental hospital? Do you shoot an arch-murderer who deliberately moves from one location to another, always surrounded by children? All of these happen daily in Iraq and in the Palestinian areas. What do you do? Well, you do not want to face the dilemma. But it cannot be avoided.

There are the tougher questions we must all face. The answers are rather disturbing but overcoming terrorism will not be child's play.

#7 If a gov turns a blind eye to the meanies, we should turn a blind eye to their soverignity.

I've been advocating this for a while, Lucky. We should start with Sudan as a small demonstration of our displeasure. Decap their entire government and let them start over. I do not see how it could get any worse and future generations of Sudanese leaders would never be able to dismiss the chance that they would be blown straight to hell if they indulged in a little more genocide. Works for me.

Posted by: Zenster || 07/07/2004 16:34 Comments || Top||

#10  Lucky
I agree that this article is an excellent tutorial. (Or maybe I'm biased, as this is the same conclusion I arrived at two years ago when I asked myself, "what is the solution, to the prese nt Jihad?"
I don't like the term War On Terror, as it essentially makes it appear to be something unique, rather than a continuation of the Muslim Jihad, started by Mohammed and the same strategy is being followed.
Jihad ALWAYS starts with a campaign of terror and then moves into a more symmetric phase.
I compare it to bullfighting. First madden and weaken the bull, then move in for the kill. The "Ah Ha" moment for me was after reading Paul Fregosi's "Jihad in the West: Muslim Conquests from the 7th to the 21st Centuries"
Same tactics , same strategy, same reliance on terror. And least we forget, the they toppled two empires within a generation, so from a military point of view it's not a bad strategy.
The link I posted to the same article on 7/1 has now expired on Secular Islam but can be accessed through this link
Posted by: tipper || 07/08/2004 0:02 Comments || Top||

#11  Thanks tipper, it was about two years ago for me also. though I knew a war with islam was in the cards long before. WoT, agreed. Perhaps the "War to free muslims" would be better. The one thing that has bothered me about this war, from Afgan to Iraq, is not to let this war turn into the "Sands of Iwo jima", a nation building program that bleeds us weak. I think the WH has this on their minds. The handoff and military lite ops in Afganistan seem to respect this.

But the gloves need to come off regarding who the major enemy is. If it needs to be nation states such as Iran, so be it. But I'd rather go after the fundies in all of old islam.

Zenster, I know, I agree.
Posted by: Lucky || 07/08/2004 0:56 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Christian Prisoners Demand Prayer Facilities Like Moslem Prisoners Have
From the Pakistan Christian Post
According to situation report issued by Sharing Life Ministry Pakistan the Christian prisoners offered prayers for the construction of Church Building inside the District Jail Lahore. Mr. Sohail Johnson, Chief Coordinator of SLMP forwarding the request application on behalf of Christian prisoners stated that there are more than 18 Mosques and 2 Amam bargahs for Muslim prisoners but there is no covered area for Christian prisoner so that, they could offer their prayers respectfully. ...

Application pointed out that there is a Church in Kot Lakhpat Jail, but not here in District Jail. If there is a Church, so, Christian prisoners can recite the Bible and offer prayers in the daytime. Jail management gives permission for prayer only three hours in a week. Its second request from Christian prisoners to Inspector General Police Jails Punjab for construction of church. ...
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 10:24:45 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq-Jordan
Jordan Affirms Moslem Guardianship of Christian Children
From Compass Direct
An Islamic court in Jordan has rejected a teenage Christian girl’s lawsuit to cancel her Muslim uncle’s legal guardianship over herself and her younger brother. The June 20 ruling was a setback for Christian widow Siham Qandah, whose estranged brother Abdullah al-Muhtadi has been trying for the last six years to take custody of her two minor children to raise them as Muslims.

Amman’s Al-Abdali Sharia Court had ordered an investigation in April into allegations that al-Muhtadi had embezzled from Qandah’s children nearly $20,000 of their U.N.-allocated trust funds, currently held under the jurisdiction of the Widows and Orphans Fund of the Jordanian army. If ruled guilty, al-Muhtadi would have been disqualified from serving as the children’s legal guardian.

Ultimately, the Islamic court’s blanket dismissal of objections to al-Muhtadi’s guardianship again raised the legal possibility that Qandah’s children could be forcibly taken away from their mother to be raised by their Muslim uncle until age 18. Qandah herself could also be jailed for disobeying orders from the Supreme Islamic Court of Jordan to hand over her daughter Rawan, now 15, and son Fadi, 14. ...

According to a June 22 report from Middle East Concern, a Christian advocacy group monitoring Qandah’s case, Judge Zghul said he ruled in favor of the Muslim guardian “because all withdrawals from the children’s trust account have been duly authorized by a judge, as required.” One of the questionable debits was approved by an Islamic court judge in Irbid, where Qandah’s child custody case was tried in northern Jordan, and another was signed by the presiding judge of Jordan’s Supreme Islamic Court. Despite the lawyer’s objections, Judge Zghul refused to order any further judicial investigation into al-Muhtadi’s alleged fraudulent use of the large sums of money he had withdrawn from his wards’ trust funds. “This judge knows that if he rules against Siham’s brother, other judges will be in trouble,” one of Qandah’s friends told Compass. “So he doesn’t want to approve an investigation, and then have to call these judges to court to be accused of wrongdoing.” ...

Baptized Christians, Rawan and Fadi were orphaned 10 years ago when their soldier father died serving in the U.N. Peacekeeping Forces in Kosovo. When Qandah went to register for their orphan benefits shortly after their father’s death, an Islamic court produced a “conversion” certificate, claiming her husband had converted to Islam three years before his death without telling his Christian family. Their father had not even signed the document, but under Islamic law it could not be contested. So as minors, both children’s legal identity changed to Muslim, and only when they reach 18 years of age will they be allowed to choose whether to remain “Muslim” or return to their Christian identity.

Meanwhile, their Christian mother was not allowed to handle their financial affairs, so Qandah asked al-Muhtadi to serve as their Muslim guardian. Although estranged from his Christian family since his conversion to Islam as a teenager, Qandah’s brother agreed to receive and forward the children’s monthly orphan benefits. But he soon began appropriating some payments, and in 1998, he launched a four-year lawsuit to take custody of the children away from his sister, so he could raise them as Muslims. When Qandah lost her final appeal in the case in February 2002, Jordan’s highest court ordered her to surrender the children to her brother’s custody. ....
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 10:04:38 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gee, you think the Jordanian judge would have ruled the same way if the uncle was Christian and the children Muslim?
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2004 22:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Sure Ed, no matter what the situation, the judge would rule in favor of the Islamic solution. Easy, huh?
Posted by: Steve White || 07/07/2004 23:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Tech
Lileks on Microsoft and Evil
You’ll never hear me say that Microsoft is evil. Have you studied evil? Philosophically, it’s remarkably coherent and efficient. Simple. Messy, yes, but there’s an underlying logic. Microsoft is evil? You wish.

I don’t have the usual raving hatred for Microsoft that results from constant use of its products. I’m a Mac guy. I write in Word, a decent enough word-processing program – it has 293,941 more features than I require and some baffling features I cannot shut off. Would you like me to indent this numbered series for you, sir? No. Fine, I shall indent them to the best of my ability. No, don’t. I see you have typed the number two followed by a period – now you sit right back while I indent. No! Knock it off! But otherwise it’s fine. I don’t use Internet Explorer, because it’s ugly as a flaming monkey butt and thinks that the Mac interface means you stick gummi icons everywhere. Plus, it has 17 toolbars, and for all I know installs back doors in my system that let Bulgarian virus writers use my machine to park code that hoovers up credit-card numbers and resells them to Burmese pimp-rings. You never know. I use Windows at work. The interface hails from 1998, because institutional upgrades are a big thing; we’ll probably go straight to Longhorn. In 2009.

So I’m not a big fan. But I will come to their defense for the anti-trust suits. Minnesota just settled a suit with the state of Minnesota, where millions of consumers were apparently forced at gunpoint to buy Windows machines. Microsoft once again promised to hand over its wallet if the kicking stopped, and agreed to remain rolled in a fetal position until the money is counted. The verdict was around eleventy trillion dollars or so. When it came to distribute the organs of the corpose the lawyers got the liver, spleen, lungs and most of the brain; the consumers got some regulatory glands, some teeth and a selection of minor toes. I think we get a certificate for ten bucks off on future Microsoft purchases. If the consumers don’t claim the money, some goes back to Bill and some goes to an education fund. The trick, of course, is to get people to claim their money. Florida lead the pack: 18 % of the consumers stepped forward. Obviously they need higher participation rates, since it looks bad when you advocate on behalf of an Inflamed Public that turns out to be utterly indifferent to the supposed offense. So the state has come up with a novel means of informing citizens that Microsoft owes them money. It was buried at the end of the story in the local paper last week.

The state will subpoena local computer resellers to learn who bought PCs.

Maybe it’s just me, but: imagine the outcry if the Justice department decided it wanted a database of computer ownership in America. Who had what. Oh no you don’t would be the general reaction, even if people couldn’t quite explain why they didn’t like the idea. It smacks of typewriter-registration laws in totalitarian states, even though we all know no one will kick down the door and demand to know where you put that 386 you bought in ‘92. But this is the mindset of the well-intentioned government lawyer: gee, people might not claim their rebates. How about we use the power of the state to force private businesses to turn over customer lists so we can mail informational material to computer owners? It’s for their own good. Who could complain?

Grrr.
Posted by: Steve || 07/07/2004 10:58:11 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Also, 10$ rebate: think about it - what is this buying me, and what is it doing to Microsoft anyway?

So as compensation, I obtain the opportunity to go down to the store, and give Microsoft $90 dollars instead of $100 dollars for another J. Random product - hell I was trying to move away from that platform!

Now, give me a $10 dollar coupon to buy whatever computer-related product I please, from any vendor. Give me $10 towards the purchase of some Linux distro, or towards Mac OS Panther or something - ** that's compensation **.

Giving me $10 dollars towards more MS software is just giving me a coupon to be screwed only a little less hard in my next purchase... Sheesh..
Posted by: MrO || 07/07/2004 13:16 Comments || Top||

#2  think of the $10 as lube
Posted by: Frank G || 07/07/2004 13:29 Comments || Top||

#3  This crap is getting totally out of hand. If people don't like Microsoft products, they don't have to buy them! The government needs to butt out.

I read that in the federal (I think) suit, the judge actually asked the courtroom how many people had Microsoft products; most of the people raised their hands, so he said that looked like a monopoly to him. Uh, gee - how about the second choice: people buy it because they like the way it works, or because it's easy to interface with other business, etc.

Wotta buncha useless, taxpayer-dollar-wasting, jealous-because-somebody-actually-invented-something-and-they-can't maroons.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 07/07/2004 17:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Microsoft has a ton of cash, so it's an easy target. It's all about the money.
Posted by: Rafael || 07/07/2004 20:22 Comments || Top||


Iraq-Jordan
Iraq: Hippy Hippy Sheik
A new product has hit the shelves of toy shops in Baghdad, and it is selling briskly. It’s chubby, decked out with hand grenades, a walkie-talkie, binoculars and an AK-47, and swivels to the tune of "Hippy Hippy Shake." It’s a Saddam Hussein doll, and it wiggles its hips on command. A Turkish traveling salesman brought the novelty to Iraq. He also markets dancing Osama bin Ladens.

The hip-shaking Osamas were already top sellers. Now with Iraqi citizens being less fearful of their former despot they’re buying the Saddam toys, too. "At the beginning we’d hide them under the counter and only sell them to those who specially asked because people were upset to see the former president as a doll," Asaad Majid, a Mansoor toy salesman, told Reuters. "Now we’re not scared anymore. We display them openly, and people buy them regularly," he divulged. The Left Coast Report hears that there’s a John Kerry doll with a guileful gimmick. No matter where you place it on the table it pretends to move to the center.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 07/07/2004 1:21:49 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Death is better than ridicule.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 10:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Now with Iraqi citizens being less fearful of their former despot they’re buying the Saddam toys, too.

Oh. I thought it was part of the fund raising for his defense fund.
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 10:32 Comments || Top||


Iraq’s 20,000 Armenians Maintain Language, Deal With Problems
From Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty
.... Nareg Ishkhanian is a pastor at the church [Armenian Apostolic Church in Baghdad]. He tells RFE/RL that the Armenian community in Iraq is small and spread across the country. "We are more than 20,000 Armenians, starting from Zakhu [a town on the border between Turkey and Iraq] to Al-Basrah. Zakhu, Mosul, Baghdad, Al-Basrah, and Kirkuk -- in each place, we have a priest. Most of the Armenians are living in Baghdad -- about 10,000 to 12,000 Armenians [are] living in Baghdad." ...

Now, many ethnic Armenians in Iraq work as -- among other professions -- merchants, doctors, engineers, goldsmiths, and photographers. The tiny Christian community is not involved in Iraqi politics. Says Ishkhanian: "We, as a small community, agree with everything, and we say to everybody, ’Salam Alaikum’ (Peace be upon you)." ...

Ishkhanian says the Armenians in Baghdad have four cultural and sport clubs. But he says such activities as singing folk songs and dancing or theater performances have temporarily stopped because of security concerns. Other activities -- such as teaching the Armenian language -- have never stopped. Ishkhanian says every Armenian in Iraq learns the native language from early childhood. ... Ishkhanian says the main achievement of the ethnic Armenian community in Iraq is that it has managed to keep its language alive and maintain strong solidarity. He says the community never leaves its members in trouble.

Gladys Boghossian is the president of the Armenian Women’s Association for the Relief of the Poor in Iraq, an organization that works closely with the Armenian Apostolic Church. ... Boghossian says the numbers of those in need in Iraq is greater now than ever before: "Now, we have too much [work] to do because of this war. We started to give them food and medical treatment." She says the association is taking care of some 300 families -- almost 1,000 people. Among the benefits, Boghossian notes that every poor Armenian can get free medicine in pharmacies serving the community. ...

On the surface, life in the ethnic Armenian community in postwar Iraq seems fairly comfortable. However, some members of the community -- speaking on condition of anonymity -- say it is only a facade that hides deep divisions. They say some Armenians cooperated with the former regime and lost trust among the people but remain in leading positions. Armenians in Iraq also bitterly accuse their leaders of corruption, especially in dealing with financial help coming from abroad.
Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 12:22:01 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Dear Mike Sylwester,
I am journalist from Armenia. Thank you for the attention to the problems of Armenians in Iraq. I am as well interested in the postwar situation of the Armenian community of Iraq.
I am trying to get connected to some of the Iraqi Armenians but unfortunately without success.
I would like to ask you if you be so kind to provide me with the contact information (mail, phone numbers, fax)on Armenians in Iraq.
Please,if it is possible send me this information on susanik@mail.ru or susmark2002@yahoo.com
I hope together we serve the people.
Thank you in advance.
Looking forward to your answer.
Posted by: Susanna Margaryan || 10/08/2004 2:40 Comments || Top||


Vice President Cheney had no new info for the 9/11 panel
The Sept. 11 commission, which reported no collaborative links between Iraq and al Qaeda, said on Tuesday that Vice President Dick Cheney had no more information than commission investigators to support his later assertions to the contrary. The 10-member bipartisan panel investigating the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington said it reached its conclusion after reviewing available transcripts of Cheney’s public remarks asserting long-standing links between the former Iraqi president and Osama Bin Laden’s Islamist militant network. "The 9-11 Commission believes it has access to the same information the vice president has seen regarding contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq prior to the 9-11 attacks," the commission said in a statement. The vice president’s office had no immediate comment on the commission statement.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 07/07/2004 10:06:00 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The VP's office later DID have a comment, welcoming the commission statement, and repeating that their concern was with media coverage of the staff report.

"We have no credible evidence that Iraq and al Qaeda cooperated on attacks against the United States." (Staff Report 15, Page 5) With the addition of the perfectly reasonable "we don't know" about any Iraqi role in 9/11, this is roughly what Cheney said immediately after the attacks and thereafter.

The staff report uses the words "apparently" and "appear" for its statements on AQ-Iraq collaboration. Tellingly diffident wording -- but I wonder if the final report will take on the matters covered by the Tenet Oct. '02 letter to the Senate committee, which seems to contradict the tentative yet broad staff statement. Seems unlikely, given their resources and mandate.

They'll also have to deal with the al-Shifah pharmaceutical plant and the alleged direct contact between AQ and Iraq's top VX expert -- a Bush deception cunningly launched back in 1998 via use of a time machine and mind control over the pervious administration ....
Posted by: Verlaine || 07/07/2004 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Good points all, Verlaine. However, one cannot separate the incrimination of the CIA by the senate committee in tandem with the 9/11 report. On one hand, the senate has destroyed Tenet and the CIA's intelligence credibility; thereby, diminishing the Oct '02 Tenet report and congressional testimony. VP Cheney was pretty reliant on this intelligence.

I am disappointed with Pat Roberts and his committee because in combination with the release of the final 9/11 Commission report, this will end up not being helpful.
Posted by: Capt America || 07/07/2004 1:11 Comments || Top||

#3  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Israel-is-a-Nazi -state TROLL || 07/07/2004 6:18 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh yeah. We got a banner, here.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 7:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Another day another chew toy.
Posted by: Shipman || 07/07/2004 7:14 Comments || Top||

#6  I wish the Israelis will invent something to detect the muslim trolls as soon they hit the submit key.
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/07/2004 7:22 Comments || Top||

#7  A4617 - In a way, you can. On the main index page (not within one of the articles) you'll see the Site Meter symbol on the right sidebar. Click on it. Then click on a few things, like Who's On (under General) and Organization (under Site Tracking)... interesting stuff, sometimes. You can see anything that doesn't have a lock symbol beside it. Try it out.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 7:31 Comments || Top||

#8  .com,

Thanks!
Posted by: Anonymous4617 || 07/07/2004 7:39 Comments || Top||

#9  [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by: Guess Who TROLL || 07/07/2004 8:18 Comments || Top||

#10  that in purdy sweet .com! i am have to get one of those.
Posted by: muck4doo || 07/07/2004 9:33 Comments || Top||

#11  DEATH TO ALL WARMONGERS BY THE WRATHFUL HAND OF GOD.
Posted by: Guess Who || 07/07/2004 8:18 Comments || Top||

#12  ISRAEL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SEPTEMBER 11. THEY DID IT KNOWING US WOULD BLAME SADDAM.
Posted by: Israel-is-a-Nazi -state || 07/07/2004 6:18 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
Police plan no action against ‘daughter seller’
LAHORE: The police do not plan to take immediate action against a man accused by his wife and kids of selling five daughters to settle gambling debts because an initial report found no wrongdoing, Okara Superintendent of Police (SP) Zafar Abbas Bukhari has said.
"Sold his daughters, did he? Well, what's wrong with that?"
SP Bukhari told reporters that police in Okara had visited Chak GD 20 and found no incriminating evidence against Allah Ditta, whose wife Bashiran left him after he allegedly tried to sell his fifth daughter, Sakina, to an elderly cousin for less than Rs 100,000.
"Youse got any daughters here?"
"Nope."
"Oh, well. You can go. There ain't no evidence."
Mr Bukhari said an initial inquiry had been conducted on directions from the Chief Minister’s Secretariat and senior police officials. “The police went to Chak GD 20 and visited the areas and found nothing against Mr Allah Ditta,” he said.
"Nope. Not a daughter in sight. It was uncanny!"
Asked is there would be an independent inquiry, he said first he would rely on his station house officer’s report. “A separate inquiry committee may be set up if the CM’s Secretariat or senior officials ask for it or express dissatisfaction at the initial investigation,” he said. “That inquiry could be conducted through a high ranking officer like a deputy superintendent of police.”
"Yasss... We're preparing the paperwork now..."
Meanwhile, Allah Ditta’s family, residents of Chak 20 GD and human rights activists reiterated their call for an independent inquiry. They said the preliminary inquiry did not include statements from the family because they had moved away from the village in fear of Allah Ditta. They demanded a senior police official call the family and get their statements. They said they did not expect an immediate conviction, just that the family’s point of view would be noted. Bashiran has filed for divorce, saying Allah Ditta was a compulsive gambler who had sold four daughters less than 15 years old to men in their 40s.
"Heh heh! Young stuff! I like young stuff!"
Sakina has lodged a private complaint with the Depalpur special judicial magistrate against her father’s attempt to sell her. He allegedly sold his first daughter, Kausar, to the same elderly cousin, Akhtar. She died two and a half months after the marriage. Allah Ditta has reportedly sold three other underage daughters. Bashiran and Sakina have taken refuge with one of those daughters, Ishram, and her husband Mumtaz in Depalpur. According to Bashiran, Allah Ditta sold Ashraf alias Ishran to Muhammad Mumtaz for Rs 80,000 when she was 11 and he was in his 40s. Bashiran also worries what Allah Ditta will do to their youngest daughter Maskeena, 7.
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#1  Only in Shari'aLand could this be dismissed. What a cesspool of human dysfunction and depravity.
Posted by: .com || 07/07/2004 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Now if he had solsd a SON then the police would act.
Posted by: JFM || 07/07/2004 1:41 Comments || Top||

#3 
Moslem families in Pakistan sell their daughters into marriage routinely. This story is remarkable only because family members complainted that the money went entirely, directly and blatantly to pay the father's excessive gambling debts.
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Posted by: Mike Sylwester || 07/07/2004 8:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh. Gambling debts. Will this displease the Prophet?
The gambling, not the daughter selling.
How much is R100000 in real money?
Posted by: tu3031 || 07/07/2004 8:41 Comments || Top||

#5  Wednesday, July 7, 2004
100,000 Pakistan Rupee = 1,786.89 US Dollar
Posted by: ed || 07/07/2004 9:04 Comments || Top||



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