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Bush Takes It
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China-Japan-Koreas
NKor lays out terms for rejoining six-way nuclear talks
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 9:56:27 AM || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That didn't take long.
Posted by: AzCat || 11/03/2004 10:05 Comments || Top||

#2  To restart stalled talks with China, Japan, South Korea, Russia and the United States, Han demanded that Washington drops North Korea's inclusion among the "axis of evil" countries and abandon sanctions on Pyongyang, the report said.

"and we want that Team America movie banned....and a pony, we want a pony too!"

Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  LOL!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 10:28 Comments || Top||

#4  Dirka, dirka, dirka, Mohammad Jihad!!!
Posted by: AzCat || 11/03/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Where is the demand for 10 cases of aged French Cognac?
Posted by: BigEd || 11/03/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#6  ROFL - Great stuff, folks! Spewed coffee - but thought to turn my head first. Lol! That pony sure gets around!

Define "terms"...
Posted by: .com || 11/03/2004 13:56 Comments || Top||

#7  The North Koreans crack me up -- they think this is their time to make demands! ROTFL
Posted by: Tom || 11/03/2004 15:26 Comments || Top||

#8  Presently the only organization possibly more clueless then the Norks would be the Berkley chapter of the DNC.
Posted by: Mark Z. || 11/03/2004 15:51 Comments || Top||

#9  W should send him a copy of Team America with his response.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 11/03/2004 17:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Tom, I think the UN has plenty of Juche too!
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/03/2004 21:58 Comments || Top||

#11  The Bush policy of ignoring the rantings of the DPRK is brilliant. These malignant dwarves are beside themselves that the Carter-Clinton-Albright gravy train doesn't stop there anymore. The 6 party talk strategy is outstanding. China doesn't react well to Nork blustering and KJI is treated as a regional problem, kind of like locusts or blight.
Posted by: RWV || 11/04/2004 0:05 Comments || Top||


U.S. Deserter Gets Dishonorable Discharge
Four decades after he vanished from his Army unit, a frail, tearful, 64-year-old American soldier pleaded guilty Wednesday to desertion, saying he wanted to avoid dangerous duty on the Korean peninsula and Vietnam. Sgt. Charles Robert Jenkins was given a 30-day sentence and a dishonorable discharge, but the judge recommended suspending the jail term. The decision is up to the military, which was expected to rule on the recommendation soon. The plea, which came during a court-martial at this Army camp outside of Tokyo, was part of a bargain with U.S. military officials to win Jenkins a lesser sentence. The maximum sentence in his case was life in prison.
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 9:10:12 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  the judge recommended suspending the jail term.

The guy just spent forty years in North Korea. Jail would just be redundant.
Posted by: BH || 11/03/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Jail = NK, with better gruel food
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2004 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  No wonder he was tearful. Imagine wasting 40 years of your life in North Korea because you happened to be a coward at the age of 24. Has he apologized?
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/03/2004 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Saw the headline and thought it was about Kerry.
Posted by: Tibor || 11/03/2004 12:10 Comments || Top||

#5  Kerry got a BCD which was then changed by al-Carteriski to Honorable in 1978 as part of the overall VN veteran amnesty.
Posted by: Harm the JAG || 11/03/2004 13:14 Comments || Top||

#6  Next stop: Senator from Massachusetts
Posted by: jackal || 11/03/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||


US deserter pleads guilty
An American soldier who vanished from his army unit in 1965 pleaded guilty on Wednesday to deserting the military and fleeing to North Korea to avoid dangerous duty on the Korean peninsula and Vietnam. He faced a maximum sentence of life in prison. The plea - part of a bargain with United States military officials to win Sergeant Charles Robert Jenkins a lesser sentence - was a major step in unravelling a Cold War mystery that began when he disappeared from his post and defected to communist North Korea four decades ago. Sentencing was expected later in the day. "Ma'am, I am in fact guilty," Jenkins told the judge, Colonel Denise Vowell, in sometimes tearful testimony before a court-martial at this US army camp outside of Tokyo. He also pleaded guilty to aiding the enemy by teaching English to military cadets in the 1980s. Jenkins, however, denied that he advocated the overthrow of the United States in propaganda broadcasts, and pleaded innocent to charges of making disloyal statements. Vowell dropped those accusations against him.
We ought to play the tapes anyway.
The frail 64-year-old turned himself into US military authorities on September 11, two months after he left Pyongyang and came to Japan for medical treatment. Tokyo has called for leniency in his case so he could live in Japan with his Japanese wife, Hitomi Soga, and their two daughters. In full uniform for the court-martial, Jenkins wept as he described his depression, fears of death and heavy drinking in the days leading up to his January 5, 1965 disappearance from his unit. He said he was afraid of being transferred to dangerous daytime patrols in the Demilitarised Zone between the two Koreas, or worse: Vietnam. "I started to fear something for myself, but I started to fear even more that I might cause other soldiers to be killed. I started to drinking alcohol," he said, breaking down in tears. "I never drank so much before." After 10 days of planning, he headed for North Korea with a white tee-shirt tied to his rifle as a surrender flag. Jenkins said he was harshly mistreated in North Korea and forced to teach English to military cadets from 1981 until 1985, adding that refusing to do so would have brought "hardship to me and my family that would never end."

The court-martial is the climax to one of the army's longest desertion sagas. Though army deserters from the 1940s are still being sought, no deserter or desertion suspect has surrendered after as long an absence as Jenkins. Jenkins joined the army as a teenager, received a Good Conduct Award after his first tour of duty in South Korea in 1961 and rose to the rank of sergeant.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/03/2004 1:35:51 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Let's play with the LLL mind. Presidential victory pardon?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 8:06 Comments || Top||


Europe
EU Will Train Iraqi Law Enforcers
Planned Mission Marks Bloc's First Commitment To Postwar Rebuilding
The European Union plans to train senior Iraqi police, prosecutors, judges and prison directors, an initiative that for the first time would commit the 25-nation bloc to Iraqi reconstruction and help narrow the transAtlantic differences over the war and its aftermath. European leaders will outline the training plan to Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, when he attends an EU summit here on Friday, EU foreign ministers said. While still scarce on details and modest in scale -- involving fewer than 100 EU trainers -- the initiative is significant because the EU as a whole so far has stayed out of Iraq, unable to muster consensus over an issue that pitted pro-war members of the bloc, led by Britain, Italy and Poland, against opponents, led by France and Germany.

Still, the training initiative alone doesn't signal an abrupt shift of European attitudes toward Iraq. "It's a symbolic engagement and it doesn't mean that the EU is now ready to support a large part of Iraqi reconstruction," said Maxime Lefebvre, a fellow at the French Institute for International Relations, a Paris-based think tank. The discussion over the training mission has been difficult, European diplomats said, in part because some EU countries believe Washington first ignored their opposition to war and now is seeking help with reconstruction and security.

But as violence and instability continue to plague Iraq, some of the divisive rhetoric in the EU has given way to a realization that bringing peace there is as much in the interest of Europe as it is of the U.S. "The EU could usefully contribute to the reconstruction and the emergence of a stable, secure and democratic Iraq," European foreign ministers meeting in Brussels said in a written statement yesterday.
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Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2004 1:41:27 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Europe Hopes for More Amenable Bush
As President Bush edged close to an election victory against Sen. John Kerry, France, Germany and other European countries he alienated during his first four years promised Wednesday to work with the new U.S. administration. Some European leaders expressed hope that Bush would reach out to the continent in his second term. But others gloomily forecast no major tack in White House policy and continued trans-Atlantic bickering.

Markets reacted with relief to the end of the long, contentious race and the likelihood of a Bush win. Stock markets rallied across Europe and Asia, oil prices surged and the U.S. dollar was modestly higher Wednesday. "We have lots to do on current crises: Iraq, the Middle East, Iran, the challenges of the African continent, to rebuild, to renovate the trans-Atlantic relationship," French Foreign Minister Michel Barnier said on RTL radio. "This is a new step that starts at a very important moment for the world." With the vote in Ohio still too close to call, European leaders were holding back from openly congratulating a winner. But they said they would work with the new White House _ even as it appeared that Bush would win a second term.
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 9:37:12 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He alianated? Bush? Do these people have mirrors. I'm totally alianated from old Europe. Cowboy up 44. The worlds your pasture.

Posted by: Lucky || 11/03/2004 9:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Time to kick ass and take names.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/03/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#3  David's Medienkritik is especially good today. Excerpt: "A leading German social democrat (Karsten Voigt) just said in a morning interview on German TV Bush will need to mend fences with Gerhard Schroeder now - not just on the war in Iraq, but also regarding Kyoto, the International Criminal Court...etc...etc...etc."

David's comment: So, a simple apology to Chancellor Schroeder won't do the trick, Herr Bush!

LOL.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 9:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Um... guess what? Bush can't run for a third term, so he can say and do whatever the hell he wants for the next four years! Deal with it.
Posted by: Dar || 11/03/2004 10:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Screw that. I didn't vote him back in office so he could be amenable. On to Iran!
Posted by: BH || 11/03/2004 10:04 Comments || Top||

#6  Delusional twinks.
Posted by: Doc8404 || 11/03/2004 10:19 Comments || Top||

#7  KNEEL before Zod W!
Posted by: mojo || 11/03/2004 10:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Some European leaders expressed hope that Bush would reach out to the continent in his second term.

Um, yeah. Because after a huge win, you really need to be careful and conciliatory.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/03/2004 10:34 Comments || Top||

#9  Wait a second.... that's not rain!
Posted by: Chancellor Schroeder || 11/03/2004 10:37 Comments || Top||

#10  Doc summed up my thoughts exactly. What the hell are they thinking? This is the BIGGEST Victory for a party in election history. Then they think Bush will be concilitory? Guys, put down the crack pipe and deal with reality.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 11/03/2004 10:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Well the Germany ecomony has improved to only 10.1% unemployement.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/03/2004 10:45 Comments || Top||

#12  Bush just won MORE VOTES than ANY president in history.

And his party swept more sentaors and house members in.

And he had a 3+ million vote margin.

And now Republicans can bitch slap the press over the exit polls, the one-sided treatment of the campaign, the lack of attention to ANY of Kerry's questions, the covering and covert backing of Democrat and liberal candidates and causes.


Credibility of MSM figures?

Dan Rather? GONE.
Zogby? GONE.
Soros? GONE.
Michael Moore? GONE

THe casualty list of librals is horrendous.
Posted by: OldSpook || 11/03/2004 10:53 Comments || Top||

#13  thanks but screw off...
and muRat HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Posted by: Dan || 11/03/2004 11:03 Comments || Top||

#14  Breaking: Kerry to concede at 1:00 EST at Fanueil Hall in Boston.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 11:04 Comments || Top||

#15  They really do not understand this country. The next four years should be very interesting. Or maybe the word I want is educational? amusing?

Or maybe Herr Voigt is just operating on the old meme, "If its in the papers, it must be true." Poor baby.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#16  Like the Doc said: these people must be delusional twinks if they think Bush "needs" to go to them, hat in hand. Buncha G-d fatuous twits.
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/03/2004 11:09 Comments || Top||

#17  On Fox crawler right now: SEN KERRY CALLS PRES BUSH TO CONCEDE
Posted by: Dave D. || 11/03/2004 11:10 Comments || Top||

#18  I voted for George W. Bush specifically because I want to see the Frogs put in their place. Reconciliation? Please.
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/03/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#19  THEY need to be more amenable
THEY need to find a principle
THEY need to fight for freedom on occasion
THEY need to get off the dole
THEY need to keep their word
THEY need to compromise
THEY need to get off their pedestals, reach out to America with gratitude and genuine good will. If they do so and are willing to self critique (for once), we might have a chance. But I doubt it.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/03/2004 11:55 Comments || Top||

#20  When the phone don't ring... they'll know it's me.
Posted by: GWB || 11/03/2004 11:56 Comments || Top||

#21  And just what do we need Old Europe for? Perhaps we need them as an example of what happens when you have no core beliefs. Germany must find a way out of their own social dead end. France is an enemy, and always has been (except for when they could use the stupid Americans).
It is now time for the gloves to come off in the Sunni Triangle and in Iran.
Posted by: SR71 || 11/03/2004 12:08 Comments || Top||

#22  Europe just breathed a big sigh of relief. They won't be asked to help out militarily.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/03/2004 12:22 Comments || Top||

#23  Rafael-We need to increase the heat on them, not let it go. It needs to be public and well covered in the press, so that when they decline, and of course, they WILL decline, they will be exposed for what they are--parasites on the blood of others' sacrifices.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/03/2004 12:37 Comments || Top||

#24  One of the first orders of business should be to open a very public investigation of the Oil for Food scandal and demand that the Eurotrash who received bribes make restitution to the new Iraqi government and, oh by the way, Chirac, all that debt that you claim Iraq owes France is so tainted by this corruption that neither we nor the Iraqis recognize it as legitimate. Basically, Europe FOAD.
Posted by: RWV || 11/03/2004 12:47 Comments || Top||

#25  Let all hear.Trembal and obey
Posted by: raptor || 11/03/2004 12:55 Comments || Top||

#26  ?
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/03/2004 13:06 Comments || Top||

#27  They are absolutely in denial that they are no longer a major international player. The big deals now are us, the Chinese and the Japanese. The focus will shift economically back to Asia and politico-militarily to the mid-east/caucusus'with our east european partners. Add Canada to the list of irrelevants as well.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 11/03/2004 13:20 Comments || Top||

#28  RWV: You are on the mark.

Yes, I've been reading Le Monde/Liberation and checking on their forums for the past couple of years. Yeah, sure. Kyoto, ICC, AIDS, human rights. Just quick: Kyoto? Kerry voted against it, 95-0 total vote. ICC? I know some Algerians who'd like to have interviews with some French officers. AIDS? WTF, do you folks know the meaning of $15 billion for Africa? Human rights? You mean all those French Islamists who have been put in the slammer based on who-knows-what pretext? Pure boiler-plate. You are not serious.

I voted for Bush cause I don't want to be on my knees to Old Europe. And I'm not talking about the French and Germans. Just the mentality ALL folks have, wherever in the world, (Including Oz, UK, or even Poland) who think we need to go "where we were" before 9-11, who think the US is to blame for all problems, but isn't responsible when things go well, etc. Nationality is not an issue, as much as we like to rely on it. Madelin, the conservative French politician, endorsed Bush. Let's talk to that guy and see his perspective. I have a feeling that Sarkozy prefers Bush, too. But Jacques and Kerry's Parti Vert cousin? No way. When you're serious, give a ring. In the meantime, thanks for your guys in Afghanistan and your intel help.
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/03/2004 15:22 Comments || Top||

#29  yeah, pucker up, Chirac.
Posted by: Whuck Sneth8132 || 11/03/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#30  Four f'ing years and Chirac and company still can't grasp that Dubya means what he says. They're sure slow learners.
Posted by: Tom || 11/03/2004 15:38 Comments || Top||

#31 
From America with love :)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 16:19 Comments || Top||

#32  Thank you Chuck (#2) for saving me the labor of typing that.
Posted by: ed || 11/03/2004 16:24 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Parrish: U.S. voters 'out of step' (She does it again)
Remember, people voted for her. There's a picture of her at the link.
The re-election of a war-mongering president shows Americans are "out of step" with the rest of the world, says a Liberal MP infamous for her blistering attacks on George W. Bush. Carolyn Parrish said Wednesday that she's "dumbfounded" by Bush's victory. "He has been reconfirmed as their commander-in-chief, and he is a war-like man." American voters showed that they are "completely out of step with most of the free world," Parrish said. "I guess it's a reflection of the profound psychological damage of 9-11."
The comments came just hours after Prime Minister Paul Martin warned his MPs in a private caucus meeting not to make incendiary comments in the wake of the U.S. election. Parrish wasn't at the meeting and apparently didn't get the message.
Earlier this fall, Parrish publicly expressed her disdain for what she called the "coalition of the idiots" who back the U.S. missile defence plan. Last year, she referred to the Bush administration as American "bastards."
Now, Parrish is urging Bush to dump his ballistic missile program, suggesting his immediate concern should be getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan. "I would hope that he'd concentrate on getting the U.S. out of those two problems they've got," she said. "I think his immediate concern should be where he has soldiers dying."
Posted by: Rafael || 11/03/2004 10:46:34 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nothing wrong with being out of step as long as you are right :).
Posted by: Ol_Dirty_American || 11/03/2004 23:17 Comments || Top||

#2  "completely out of step with most of the free world"

First, we (the U.S.) are a pretty major chunk of the free world. And second, it wouldn't stay free for long if we were in step with loonies like Carolyn...
Posted by: PBMcL || 11/03/2004 23:58 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Muslim exit poll percentages: Kerry-93, Nader-5, Bush-1
Yesterday's preliminary results of an exit poll by a prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group indicate that more than 90 percent of Muslim voters are casting their ballots for John Kerry in today's election. It's all over now, that 93% lost BIG time!)

In that early survey of 537 Muslim voters, conducted by the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), 93 percent of respondents said they voted for Kerry, 5 percent favored Ralph Nader and less than 1 percent said they supported President Bush.

In the key battleground state of Florida, a CAIR sampling of 335 Muslims who cast their votes today or in early polling shows that 95 percent voted for Kerry and just 3 percent voted for President Bush. Ralph Nader received under 2 percent of Muslim votes.

In Ohio, a similar sampling of 222 Muslim voters showed 86 percent voting for Kerry, 4 percent for Bush and 10 percent for "other" or a third party.

"We are seeing an unprecedented level of voter mobilization by the American Muslim community in this election," said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. "I believe Muslim voters have come of age and will be a factor in all future elections." If this is an example the GOP has nothing to be concerned about

Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 7:30:56 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oh, good. Are the "scholars" in town again? Sounds like they also did Kerry's exit polling on the side...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/03/2004 19:54 Comments || Top||

#2  So this means that Bush can safely ignore that particular constiutency? Not that I would like that, or anything.....

Posted by: Wuzzalib || 11/03/2004 20:05 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm glad that they so clearly identified their position. It should help the formulation of future policies.
Posted by: RWV || 11/03/2004 23:58 Comments || Top||


Putin: Bush election win shows US does not fear terrorism
If incumbent U.S. President George W. Bush were elected for a second term, it would show that U.S. citizens have not allowed themselves to succumb to the threats of international terrorists, Russian President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday. "I am convinced that one of the goals of international terrorism is to prevent Bush from being reelected," he said, adding that recent statements made by Osama bin Laden only confirmed his theory. Bush is a tough man and a consistent politician, Putin said, adding that he is a reliable and predictable partner. Russia hopes that Bush shows his qualities and experience, gained over the last four years, to run such a large and important nation as the U.S., Putin said.

Meanwhile, whoever wins in the elections, Russia-U.S. relations would not be easy, Putin said, adding that there were always some problems between countries like Russia and the U.S. He did not elaborate. But he said that over the last four years bilateral relations have been transformed and have improved greatly for the sake of international security, Putin said.
When it comes to terrorism, the thing you most have to fear really is fear itself. Putin definitely gets it.
Posted by: Bulldog || 11/03/2004 12:08:01 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Does this mean you do not accept my generous offer for a hudna truce?"

/Osama
Posted by: BH || 11/03/2004 12:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Right on Puty! Now let's go get these guys!!
Posted by: 2b || 11/03/2004 21:45 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Root causes of increasing Thai violence
EFL
The internal security situation in southern Thailand, which has seen a recrudescence of long dormant Muslim anger against the Government since the beginning of this year, has again taken a turn for the worse with the death of six Muslims allegedly due to firing by the security forces outside a police station in the Narathiwat province on October 25, 2004, and the subsequent death, allegedly due to suffocation and renal failure, of another 78 Muslims who were among those arrested during a large demonstration by about 3,000 Muslims outside the police station which led to the use of tear-smoke and firing by the security forces to disperse them. The anger of the minorities in any country ---whether religious or sectarian or ethnic or ideological-- passes through the following stages--- communal, that is, against a community perceived as adversaries; anti-police/security forces due to their over-reaction and due to perceptions, right or wrong, that they are biased against the minorities; anti-Government due to perceptions that it is insensitive and over-protective of the security forces; and finally anti-national due to perceptions that the minorities cannot get justice as part of the existing nation. A similar evolution has been taking place in Southern Thailand. There are five characteristic features of the situation in Southern Thailand as it has evolved since January, 2004:

Use of agitprop methods by Muslim clerics, similar to those used by the communists in the past, to force confrontational situations with the security forces and provoke them to over-react, thereby leading to human rights violations and alienation of the man in the street against the Security Forces and ultimately against the Government. Such agitprop methods were typically in action in the incident outside a mosque in April, 2004, and in the incident of October 25. In recent weeks, there has been a growing number of worrisome incidents of alleged thefts of fire-arms issued to Muslim members of the village defence forces in Southern Thailand. A legitimate suspicion of the Police and other security forces that these were probably not genuine thefts, but instances of the Muslim members voluntarily handing over their weapons issued by the Police to the jihadi terrorists and then covering them up as thefts led to rigorous enquiries by the police. It was the arrest of some Muslim members, who had reported such thefts, which would appear to have led to the surrounding of the police station by a mob of 3,000 resulting in a confrontational situation. Available reports from reliable sources indicate that this was not a spontaneous outburst of public anger, but a carefully instigated and orchestrated one.

Targeted killings of individuals such as Government officials and their relatives, Buddhists etc by two-member jihadi terrorist squads using motor cycles for carrying out their attacks and getting away. The modus operandi used by these terrorist squads closely resemble that used by the Sunni extremist Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LEJ) and the Harkat-ul-Jihad-al Islami (HUJI) in Pakistan. This modus operandi is taught in the madrasas controlled by the LEJ and the HUJI in Pakistan and in those controlled by the HUJI (Bangladesh) in Bangladesh. Many Thai Muslims had been trained in these madrasas in Pakistan and this job of training future recruits from Southern Thailand has since been taken over by HUJI (B) in Bangladesh. Reliable reports from Bangladesh speak of a HUJI-run OBL (Osama bin Laden) Trail, similar to the Ho Chi-Minh trail of the Vietnam war days, operating between Bangladesh and Thailand for bringing in small numbers of Thai Muslims, with the help of their Myanmarese co-religionists, training them in the HUJI-controlled madrasas of Bangladesh and escorting them back. It is stated that the OBL trail is now being used only for the movement of men and not material. There is also a flow of funds from the HUJI of Bangladesh, which is a member of the IIF, to the Muslims of Southern Thailand. According to some estimates, about 250 plus individuals---public servants and non-governmental personalities----have been the victims of such targeted killings since January this year.

Frustrating the efforts of the Thai Police to establish the identities of the individuals and organisations involved in acts of violence/terrorism by projecting their investigation and detention of suspected Muslims for interrogation as anti-Islam. After the incidents of raids and looting of firearms by the terrorists in January, police attempts to detain and question Ismaae Yusof Rayalong, the headmaster of the Tohyeeming Islamic boarding school in Yala's Muang district, and teachers, Muhamad Hayeewea Sohor and Santi Sama-ae, of the Suwannakorn school in tambon Bor Thong of Pattani's Nong Chik district, were projected by the jihadis as evidence of the anti-Muslim attitude of the police.

A skillfully planned and executed psychological warfare campaign by the perpetrators of violence and the Muslim clerics supporting them to project serious incidents of violence or terrorism, which might shock the international community, as incidents stage-managed by the local security agencies in order to have the Muslims discredited as terrorists. One finds here a close resemblance between the psywar tactics used by the perpetrators of violence in Southern Thailand and those used elsewhere in the world by the members of the IIF. Pakistani jihadi terrorist organisations, which are members of the IIF, often project serious incidents of terrorism by their followers in India's Jammu & Kashmir as stage-managed by the Indian intelligence and security agencies in order to discredit the Muslims. Till Osama bin Laden admitted the responsibility of Al Qaeda for the 9/11 terrorist strikes in the US, the IIF was projecting them as carried out by the MOSSAD, Israel's external intelligence agency. In an interview to the AFP news agency after the January incidents, Yapa Barahaeng, a retired teacher, alleged: "Muslim groups haven't done this. It seems the government itself or the police or military have done it." he said. There have been numerous instances of such false propaganda by Muslim activists to create a divide between the security forces and the local Muslim population.

Attempts at an Arabisation of the local Muslim culture and religious practices through madrasas funded by Saudi money flowing largely from the Al Haramain office in Bangladesh, Arabic language classes and dissemination of copies of the Holy Koran in the Arabic language and exhortations to the local Muslims to study the Holy Koran in the Arabic language only and give up the use of the Thai language for this purpose.
Posted by: Paul Moloney || 11/03/2004 1:21:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is an excellent article that describes in good detail the methods our enemies are using to brainwash and program their killbots.

And the root cause of all this Thai Muslim anger is...Saudi money.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#2  The Thais crushed the Communists, whose methods are being adopted by the Muslim guerrillas. They will crush these guerrillas as well.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 11/03/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Thais are tough,seems they are good at killing wild-eyed fanatics.
Posted by: raptor || 11/03/2004 15:18 Comments || Top||

#4  The main root causes in addition to Wahhabi $$$ is belonging to the death cult of jihadism. I agree with all the previous postings.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 17:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Hmm, use of agitprop methods, Wahabi money... reminds me of Michael Moore and George Soros.
Posted by: V is for Victory || 11/03/2004 18:41 Comments || Top||

#6  sounds like they are going to target the clerics and Madrasas. Good
Posted by: Frank G || 11/03/2004 18:48 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Iran marks silver anniversary of embassy seizure
Okay. Tequila Coffee break's over. We still have work to do.
Students burned American flags and effigies of President Bush on Wednesday to mark the 25th anniversary of the takeover of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, while a top Iranian official accused Washington of undermining his country's goodwill gestures.
Has it been that long already? Time flies when you're having fun.
To chants of "Death to America," about 3,000 students gathered outside the former U.S. Embassy to mark the Nov. 4, 1979, storming of the building by militant students who held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days. By the Iranian calendar, the anniversary of the siege fell on Wednesday. The demonstration, which broke up peacefully in about three hours after students prayed together, coincided with news that Bush had won re-election to a second term. Demonstrators said Wednesday the 1979 embassy takeover was justified, maintaining in a statement there was no other option "given various acts of interference in Iran's internal affairs by the U.S."
Snipped: a whole bunch of stuff about it's all our fault.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 4:38:02 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  There's gonna be a lot more that's our fault soon soon if these folks don't give up on this "Death to America" and nuke crap.
Posted by: Tom || 11/03/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Top on the list of President Bush's 'solution list' is mullahs with nukes. In early 2005 the solution shall be forthcoming.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 17:10 Comments || Top||

#3  What a coincidence, next year is the lead and depleted uranium anniversary.
Posted by: ed || 11/03/2004 17:24 Comments || Top||

#4  I'd like to put a bigass strikeout on the Jimmmuah Catuah SSN plank.

How about the SSN Walter George?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 17:29 Comments || Top||

#5  About 3,000? Pheh.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/03/2004 18:58 Comments || Top||

#6  Happy 25th Anniversary, Mullahs. Don't make plans for a 26th.
Posted by: Mark Z. || 11/03/2004 19:47 Comments || Top||

#7  'Death to America' (DTA) - is that it? 25 years and they've not figured out anything more ... catchy. I mean DTA is *soooo* well, provacative.

I mean the US might go totally pre-emptive on your arse...

Seriously, count the number of fuck-tards in the ME, NK and anywhere else that are looking at hour-glasses they can't now turn over...

Me? I'm totally grinning! :)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 11/03/2004 20:00 Comments || Top||


India to Develop Iran's Natural Gas Deposits
By subscription only, so I give you the entire article.

Iran has reached a preliminary agreement with India to develop a part of one of the world's largest natural-gas deposits, the latest in a string of energy deals that compound difficulties faced by Washington as it attempts to isolate Iran over its nuclear program.

Under a memorandum of understanding signed Monday, state-owned Indian Oil Corp., the biggest oil refiner in India, will join with Iranian gas utility Petropars to bring to production one block of the offshore South Pars gas deposit, which accounts for 60% of Iran's gas reserves and 10% of the world's reserves. Iran has the world's second-largest gas reserves, after Russia.

Details of the pact weren't disclosed. The Indian company, known as IOC, said the estimated total investment in the project could reach $3 billion. Energy analysts said Petropars, a subsidiary of National Iranian Oil Co., would likely take a majority stake in the venture. The project also includes the construction of a liquefaction plant in southern Iran to liquefy the gas for sea transport.

IOC said it was too early to put a figure on its share of investment in the project. It noted that approvals are needed in both countries for the venture to proceed.

Analysts said that, judging from past energy dealings with Iran, it could take could take as many as four years to produce gas from the zone allotted to IOC. The Indian company would get a fixed rate of return on its investment and probably would use that money to buy gas from the Iranian government at a negotiated price, they said.

The deal shows how the search for alternatives to increasingly expensive crude oil is complicating Washington's security agenda. The U.S. has had sanctions against Iran for more than 20 years. More recently, it has spent much diplomatic effort urging allies to use any leverage they have to convince Tehran to abandon what the U.S. claims is an illicit nuclear-weapons program.

Those efforts are running into roadblocks thrown up by the surging price of crude oil and the need for alternatives. Last week, China struck a preliminary deal with Iran with a potential value of tens of billions of dollars to develop an oil field in exchange for purchases of Iranian liquefied natural gas. Earlier this year, the U.S. failed to dissuade Japan from signing a roughly $3 billion contract that gives Tokyo the rights to develop Iran's Azadegan oil deposit.

"The Europeans are also dealing with Iran," said Madhu Nainan, editor of Petrowatch, a New Delhi petroleum industry newsletter. "The Americans are the ones who are isolated, not the others." Although India's relations with the U.S. have been improving, New Delhi's acute energy insecurity is driving it to risk harming those ties by dealing with Iran. India, Asia's third-biggest consumer of energy, imports 70% of the crude oil it needs to run its economy, which expanded more than 8% in the year that ended March 31.

The amount of natural gas available for sale in India amounts to 80 million cubic meters a day, say analysts, which meets only 70% of the country's demand. Analysts say Indian demand for natural gas will rise to more than 300 million cubic meters a day within 15 years, and most of that will need to come from imports.

India is on a global hunt to meet its energy needs by buying stakes in foreign oil and gas fields. Its exploration utility, Oil & Natural Gas Corp., has struck agreements in countries including Sudan, Russia and Syria. If the IOC deal in Iran is completed, it will mark that company's first major energy venture outside India.
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Diplomats: Nuke Report on Iran May Weaken U.S. Case
A new report on U.N. nuclear inspections in Iran may be worded in a way that undermines the U.S. case for reporting Tehran to the Security Council this month, diplomats said Wednesday. United Nations nuclear watchdog chief Mohamed ElBaradei is due to present a report next week summarizing his agency's two-year investigation of Iran's nuclear program, which Washington says is a front to develop atomic weapons. Tehran insists its nuclear ambitions are limited to electricity generation. "ElBaradei plans to say in his November report on Iran that the agency has so far found no evidence of diversion (to a nuclear weapons program)," a diplomat who follows the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) probe told Reuters. But he will balance that by saying that Iran's fuel cycle activities would appear to be out of proportion with the other parts of its nuclear program."

Diplomats said ElBaradei had told the Iranians he would be able to pen a positive report if there was a constructive atmosphere in their talks Friday with European counterparts who want Tehran to freeze its enrichment program. The IAEA report will be crucial in the U.S. push to have Iran reported to the U.N. Security Council for possible economic sanctions when the watchdog's board meets on Nov. 25. While the agency has uncovered many previously concealed parts of Iran's nuclear program, it has found no "smoking gun" clearly proving the U.S. allegations. Several diplomats said a statement that there was no hard proof of diversion would remove a key legal ground for reporting Iran to the Security Council but would not make it impossible.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 11:43:51 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who cares what the UN says? ElBaradei is just another UN crook.
Posted by: SR71 || 11/03/2004 13:13 Comments || Top||

#2  A new report on U.N. nuclear inspections in Iran may be worded in a way that undermines the U.S. case for reporting Tehran to the Security Council this month, diplomats said Wednesday.

Nice to know that these guys are willing to resort to a tried-and-true approach; if the problem can't be solved as it is, then redefine the problem.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/03/2004 16:39 Comments || Top||

#3  El Baradei is an ally of the Axis of Evil. He has helped them hide their nuclear programs in Iraq, Libya, Iran and North Korea.

Two things must be done now: topple the Iranian tyrants, and get rid of El Baradei. The latter could be done by kicking the UN out of NYC.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 11/03/2004 19:56 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Economy
Oil price leaps as market casts nervous eye at Middle East
NEW YORK : World crude oil prices jumped, fell and then soared again on a market rocked by speculation over the implications of President George W. Bush's electoral victory.

New York's main contract, light sweet crude for delivery in December, finished at $50.88 dollars a barrel, up $1.26 on the day, after plunging to a low of $48.65.

Prices leapt in early trade as traders worried about Middle East tensions and energy policy under Bush, dipped on news of a surge in US commercial crude oil stockpiles, and then soared again on renewed post-election fears.

"I believe the fluctuation in oil over the past few days has been tied to the election," said Wachovia market analyst Jason Schenker.

"Last night there was a spike after it appeared a Bush win would be imminent," he said

The crude oil inventories data exclude the 670.7-million-barrel US Strategic Petroleum Reserve, an emergency supply stored in huge underground salt caverns along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

Adjusted for inflation, oil prices remain well below the levels reached in the wake of the 1979 Iranian revolution when prices surged beyond the equivalent of 80 dollars a barrel in today's money.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 10:10:22 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan/South Asia
Kashmir jihad will continue, says Saeed
KARACHI: Irrespective of what formulae General Musharraf proposes for Kashmir under American influence, the Mujahideen will continue their jihad in Kashmir since it is a matter of their and Pakistan's survival, said Hafiz Mohammad Saeed, Ameer of Jamat Al Dawa Pakistan, while addressing members of the Karachi Bar Council on Tuesday.

Hafiz Saeed was also the chief of Lashkar-e-Taiba that was outlawed by President Musharraf in 2000.

The ameer justified militancy in Indian-held Kashmir saying it had been the Mujahideen who had kept the Kashmir issue alive. "Had they not put on an armed struggle against Indian occupying forces, India would have changed the courses of the Chenab and Jehlum rivers and Pakistan would have had to survive on the Indus alone," he said referring to the geographical analysis of the seven regions of Kashmir recently presented by President Musharraf.
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 7:16:12 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Bush's victory stirs outrage
Seethe and be damned!
From correspondents in Islamabad
US President George W. Bush's election victory stirred reactions ranging from relief to outrage in Afghanistan and Pakistan, and fears over what four more years of the war on terror could mean for the Muslim world. Both governments have been close supporters of the US-led drive to oust the Taliban and hunt down remnants al-Qaeda, and were expected to welcome the result. Yet many ordinary citizens had hoped for a more moderate president in John Kerry. "A win for Bush will be bad for Muslims," said laundry shop manager Mohammed Ali Akhtar, 48, who was watching the results come in on Fox TV in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad. "He invaded Afghanistan, then Iraq and now he is planning to hit Syria and Iran."
Heh heh.
"I just hate him. I just hate his face," said market trader Mehtab Butt, 50, in the eastern city of Lahore.
We don't like you, either, Mehtab.
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 3:32:24 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Neener neener.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 15:44 Comments || Top||

#2  On to Iran! Ulululululu!
Posted by: BH || 11/03/2004 15:45 Comments || Top||

#3  "A win for Bush will be bad for Muslims,"
Music to my ears!!!!Your reign of terror is about to be over.
I just wish (I know it is just a fantasy) that Bush would send a tape to Al-Jazeera with a message warning muslims that for every American they behead one of their most precious cities will be turned into glass.
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/03/2004 16:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Suppose it has dawned on any of them yet that Dubya may have been holding back a bit due to the campaign?
Posted by: Tom || 11/03/2004 16:02 Comments || Top||

#5  Doesn't sound like the Afghans are too pissed off about it.
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/03/2004 16:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Tom's got it! The only thing worse than a wild cowboy, is a wild cowboy whos been re elected with a government!

Go hogs! Pigs all around!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 16:40 Comments || Top||

#7  I'm still trying to get my head around the idea that Fox News is broadcast in Islamabad...or is Fox TV something different?
Posted by: Anonymous6207 || 11/03/2004 17:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Fox is probably on an uncoded (free) satellite.
Posted by: ed || 11/03/2004 17:54 Comments || Top||

#9  Pressure on Iran other than military invasion. Pressure on Syria including military invasion.

If we time it right Iraq will be able to handle themselves pretty well by the time we're ready to go in Syria (fall 2005). Also if the timing is right the fall of Syria combined with the two new democracies on her borders and American radio and other support for anti-government groups could topple Iran around the same time frame.

Faster please.
Posted by: RJ Schwarz || 11/03/2004 18:16 Comments || Top||

#10  "I just hate him. I just hate his face," said market trader Mehtab Butt, 50, in the eastern city of Lahore.

Man, you guys are slippin'...
Posted by: Raj || 11/03/2004 19:02 Comments || Top||

#11  ...to say nothing of Michael Moore!
Posted by: BigEd || 11/03/2004 19:03 Comments || Top||

#12  Raj,
Oh, all right then. I'll say it...

"One of the Butt buddies..."
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 20:18 Comments || Top||


Terror Networks & Islam
Arabs prefer Kerry to Bush
Reactions among Arabs, whose future is largely affected by who rules at the White House, ranged from indifference to support for challenger John Kerry. For Lebanese citizens, who have been locked for decades in the middle of the Arab-Israeli conflict, both U.S. presidential candidates are equally supportive of Israel and hostile to Arab causes. "There is no difference between Kerry and Bush since they are both on Israel's side," Mohammed Hussein, a tradesman, told UPI.
Tough, ain't it?
Mona Asrawi, a housewife, said although Kerry and President George Bush could be very similar, "one can try the Democrat candidate now since we have already tried Bush and saw what he has done in Iraq as well as his blind bias for Israel."
Yeah, yeah. As opposed to your blind hatred of same. Shuddup. We have more important things to do right now than listen to your opinion.
Algerians had similar reactions. "They are two faces of the same coin and we cannot expect anything good from both of them with regard to Arabs and Muslims," Mustafa, a bank employee, told UPI.
And we've got you on our list, too, Mustafa. There are certain advantages to being world hegemons, y'know.
Abdel Hamid, a government employee, commented, "As an Arab citizen and a Muslim I have no preference since both will be serving Israel interests."
I think we've discovered a new phenomenon here: one-track mindlessness...
For Karima, a secretary at an oil company, "choosing between Bush and Kerry is like choosing between cholera and typhoid ... Both are personas non grata."
It really does hurt my eyes when I roll them like that...
And if you keep making faces, buster, it's gonna freeze that way...
Mauritanians, on the other hand, prefer Kerry over Bush, whom they accused of having destroyed Iraq and protected Israel, giving it the green light to attack the Palestinians. "No doubt that Bush is going to make it because the whole world is heading towards the abyss," commented Ahmed Ould Tajer, a vendor. But Mohammed Sidi Ould Bilal, a telephone operator, said he believes "Kerry would save the world because he will be correcting the wrong policies followed by Bush in the past four years and which caused non-equilibrium in the world."
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 11:40:31 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This may come as a shock to the Arabs, but WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT!
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 11/03/2004 13:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Aw jeez, too bad you'll never have the chance to find out...
Posted by: tu3031 || 11/03/2004 13:25 Comments || Top||

#3  http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/ has a different take on it translated from comments posted to a BBCArabic website. There were several pro Bush comments from Iraqis.
Posted by: mhw || 11/03/2004 14:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Iraqis, like many Kuwaitis, now understand us. They should be removed from the insult Arab as the British are from European.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 14:23 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't let the screen door hit ya....
Posted by: 2b || 11/03/2004 14:25 Comments || Top||

#6  I have never known more egocentric people than the Muslims. Do they really think that the whole world will fall apart because they are unhappy? These are people who produce nothing and contribute nothing to the wellbeing of humanity and the world has to make them happy? FUCK THEM ALL!!!
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/03/2004 14:35 Comments || Top||

#7  I was in Iraq...I've never seen more LAZY people than the arabs.
Posted by: Gleater Angetle8891 || 11/03/2004 14:46 Comments || Top||

#8  I was in Saudi for 4 years and they all suffer from a syndrome called Aversion to Physical Labor Syndrome.
Posted by: Anonymous4724 || 11/03/2004 14:55 Comments || Top||

#9  A4724, No wonder the Arabs form alliances with the French so easily...They're the same.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 15:32 Comments || Top||

#10  Speaking of low-life, where's Murat? I have a message for him: Four More Years! Four More Years! Four More Years! Four More Years!...
Posted by: Tom || 11/03/2004 15:35 Comments || Top||

#11  The German Nazis were pretty unhappy when FDR was re-elected. The sympathy meter reads about the same for the Arab Nazis.
Posted by: jackal || 11/03/2004 15:41 Comments || Top||

#12  barbara always bets what i'm gonna say first
Posted by: smokeysinse || 11/03/2004 16:11 Comments || Top||

#13  Murat II is working his magic on 23th street.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 17:30 Comments || Top||

#14  "They are two faces of the same coin and we cannot expect anything good from both of them with regard to Arabs and Muslims," Mustafa, a bank employee, told UPI.

Two sides of the same coin. At least get the cliche right, damn it...
Posted by: Raj || 11/03/2004 19:38 Comments || Top||

#15  Guffaw! - morons.

The world is changing under their feet and they're missing the show...

I'm *very* happy Bush is back - been out drinking 5.7% beer all evening and trying *very* hard not to wind up my liberal friends (who were *very* quiet) - snigger ;)
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 11/03/2004 19:49 Comments || Top||

#16  "Arabs prefer Kerry to Bush"
Congratulations, I think we just found DU's new "Think Tanks," starring the Center for the Studies of the Completely Obvious!
Posted by: BA || 11/03/2004 20:46 Comments || Top||


Africa: Horn
U.N.: Sudan Forces Relocating Refugees
The Sudanese security forces surrounded several camps in the war-torn region of Darfur on Tuesday, relocated refugees against their will and denied access to humanitarian groups, the United Nations said. Sudan denied closing off the camps but said angry Arab tribesmen gathered in the area. The U.N. World Food Program said several camps were surrounded — apparently in retaliation for the abduction of 18 Arabs by Darfur rebels — and that the world body was forced to pull 88 relief workers from other areas where there has been an upsurge in violence in recent days.

The World Food Program fears the government may start forcing people from the camps back to their home villages, where there is less protection from government-backed militias known as Janjaweed that have been attacking towns, said spokeswoman Christiane Berthiaume. The camps, located near the southern Darfur city of Nyala, were cut off "at 3 a.m. without any warning," she said. "Agencies have been denied access to these camps since this morning." At least 160,000 refugees cannot be reached by road "because of insecurity," Berthiaume said.
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 9:22:09 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SO, the UN has been talking about the genocide in the Sudan for 4 months but doing nothing to help. In the 4 months since the UN "got concerned" about Sudan, 40,000 Sudanese have died, with the UN's knowledge, and one can only assume, since they won't DO anything to stop it, the UN's consent. Way to go, UN. You'll soon be in the world league of mass murderers, alongside Stalin and Hitler.
Posted by: Jules 187 || 11/03/2004 11:06 Comments || Top||

#2  I posit a reason: the Sudanese security forces are seething about the plight of their "Palestinian" Arab brethren - and are subconsciously taking it out on the Dhimmi in their midst... i.e, "Joooooooooos are to blame..." sez borgboy in the subjunctive...
Posted by: borgboy || 11/03/2004 11:50 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Does Arafat have AIDs?
Not sure what to make of the source. A grain of salt is probably called for...
by Malcolm Thornberry 365Gay.com European Bureau Chief
(Paris) As French doctors continue to run tests on Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat some medical authorities not connected directly to his case are suggesting that he may have HIV/AIDS. ... with leukemia and other forms of cancer ruled out, the list of possible diseases is narrowing. A low blood platelet count is a sign of a weakened immune system. In addition to cancer, the low count could be attributed to bleeding ulcers, colitis, liver disease, lupus, or HIV. It is believed that ulcers and colitis have already been ruled out. Arafat has lost a considerable amount of body weight. Hopital d'Instruction des Armees de Percy, southwest of Paris, also has some of France's best HIV/AIDS doctors.

For several years there have been suggestions that Arafat was bisexual. Ion Pacepa, who was deputy chief of Romanian foreign intelligence under the Ceaucescu regime and who defected to the West in 1978, says in his memoirs that the Romania government bugged Arafat and had recordings of the Arab leader in orgies with his body guards. If the suggestions that Arafat has AIDS are true, it is doubtful it would be made public.
Posted by: mhw || 11/03/2004 9:21:24 AM || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I didn't know goats could transmit AIDS to humans.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 11/03/2004 9:26 Comments || Top||

#2  they can't JM, but rhesus monkey's can.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/03/2004 9:31 Comments || Top||

#3  We can only hope.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 9:52 Comments || Top||

#4  Love does not parade itself, is not puffed up....does not behave rudely...does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth. Ist Corinthians 13: 4-6 excerpts

It's tempting to want to kick Arafat. He has created a monster and let it loose to kill children and poison his people. We always think that the obvious evildoers do not deserve any kind of compassion. But the comments above are just as poisonous in their own way as anything Arafat ever said. Who died and made us God? Judgment is His business, not ours. Whatever we wish on another person can all too easily fall on our own heads.

I have lost three friends to AIDS. Don't wish AIDS on anybody. Not even a terrorist.

Arafat is still a human being created in the image of God. Nobody is beyond God's redemption unless they choose to be. My son prays for Arafat to repent.

The only way to kill terrorism once and for all is to offer help and compassion to those who truly want to rebuild. Nasty comments don't help.
Posted by: mom || 11/03/2004 13:47 Comments || Top||

#5  I prayed for Adolph to repent.
Posted by: A Frank || 11/03/2004 14:08 Comments || Top||

#6  mom

1. If Arafat's T cell count is not too low he probably can have his AIDs contained by a strong cocktail of drugs.

2. Its nice of you to pray for Arafat's repentence. If you are not doing so already, it would be nice to also pray that there will be no more victims of his non repentence.
Posted by: mhw || 11/03/2004 14:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Just a thought: if Arafat has indeed been playing so sweetly with his guards for that many years, we may soon see a large contingent of nasties quietly disappearing from sight.

Mom: Arafat is responsible for the death and maiming of thousands, perhaps even so many as a million -- Arabs as well as Jews. He has stolen literally billions of dollars that were supposed to feed and clothe the people the world allowed him to lead. He worked hard to poison the minds of two generations of his people, and allowed them to be kept in squalor that their Jew-hatred be continually fed. He has held up this squalor and hatred to the world, which has chosen to sup heartily thereon, feeding their own Jew-hatred and calling it anti-Zionism.

It for God to forgive him, if He will. But Arafat has done nothing in the way of repentence and repair of the damage he so gleefully caused to have earned any forgiveness from us. Vengence is mine, sayeth the Lord. But forgiveness must be earned.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2004 14:31 Comments || Top||

#8  I bet he gave a knobber to Saddam.
Posted by: Steve Anus || 11/03/2004 14:51 Comments || Top||

#9  I bet Arafat gave Osama a blumpkin.
Posted by: Frank Enbeens || 11/03/2004 14:56 Comments || Top||

#10  NEW ARAB COLD MEDICINE COMMERCIAL:
Do you feel drowsy when you wake up? Have a stuffy nose? Keep finding yourself inconveiniently in a French hospital about to die?
Hi, i'm Yasser Arafat. You may remember me from such films as: "How to strap a grenade to your balls"; "How to strap a grenade to an isreali's balls"; and "How to shove a box of grenades of an American's ass"
Between convincing young people to blow themselves up, and tricking corrupt westerners into giving me nobel peace prizes, i dont have alot of time for those annoying sicknesses. Thats why i take ADVIL Cold and Flu...
Posted by: Quarterdeck || 11/03/2004 14:58 Comments || Top||

#11  "The only way to kill terrorism once and for all is to offer help and compassion to those who truly want to rebuild."

-Sorry if I'm doubtful Arafish has ever genuinely displayed this. Let God judge him, I agree, I would love to arrange the meeting.
Posted by: Jarhead || 11/03/2004 15:06 Comments || Top||

#12  If the 'Old Camel' has AIDS the only shocking item, considering Arafat's double life, is why did he not contract the disease in the 1980's?

"John eventhough you lost I'll still love you." (YUK!)
Posted by: Mark Espinola || 11/03/2004 16:11 Comments || Top||

#13  I suspect he may have DU posioning...
Reason: There were huge gun battles around his refuge and he then lived there for years without any clean up. DU dust in the area would be inhaled over and over.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/03/2004 16:29 Comments || Top||

#14  a blumpkin.?
muttering... blumpkin?

That's it the Jews are using armor piercing rounds against the septic tank! Gotta be it!
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 17:26 Comments || Top||

#15  Mark Esp,

You are a cold blooded brother, man. Don't drink and Photoshop. (snicker)
Posted by: Poison Reverse || 11/03/2004 22:24 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan/South Asia
It's official: Karzai takes it
Hamid Karzai was declared the winner of Afghanistan's landmark presidential election Wednesday, after investigators concluded that a string of irregularities were too minor to overturn his triumph. The country's joint U.N.-Afghan electoral board confirmed that the American-backed incumbent had clinched a five-year term as the country's first popularly chosen leader. "His excellency Hamid Karzai is the winner of the election," board chairman Zakim Shah said at a ceremony in the capital. "We are announcing the first elected president of Afghanistan." Shah said the Karzai won 55.4 percent support in the Oct. 9 election, 39 points clear of his closest challenger and enough to avoid a second round.
Posted by: Fred || 11/03/2004 9:12:49 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Woo hoo! The Afghan people win, for the first time ever! And Karzai, too. Best of luck in his new term. :-D
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/03/2004 10:44 Comments || Top||

#2  *grin*
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/03/2004 11:08 Comments || Top||

#3  How cool would it be to HEAR the telephone call between Hamid and George today? I can get chills. God bless us, we're a great people.
Posted by: Mark Z. || 11/03/2004 11:44 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine
Arafat Strong Enough for Further Tests
Tests on Yasser Arafat showed problems with his mentation digestion, but the Palestinian leader has recovered sufficiently to undergo examinations that could not have been done when he was first rushed to France, an aide said Tuesday.
"Jean-Claude, I think we need to use a larger colonoscope!"
Arafat, 75, felt well enough to follow the U.S. election, and over the past two days was able to talk with doctors, colleagues and heads of state, Palestinian officials said.
Maybe Dubya can elicit the big one.
Nevertheless, there was still no public information about the cause of his dramatic deterioration in health. Leila Shahid, the Palestinian envoy to France, said tests showed an improvement in Arafat's white blood cell count but also "persistent abnormalities" in indicators for digestive function. Initial tests had "confirmed an abnormal blood count, high white blood cell count and low platelet count and ruled out the diagnosis of leukemia," she said. "President Arafat's condition has improved sufficiently for him to undergo tests that would not have been performed upon admission," Shahid said, reading from a statement she said was drafted by the French military hospital treating Arafat and released with his consent. "For the past 48 hours, he has been able to converse with his doctors and close relatives, colleagues and heads of state," she said.
Did he give Suha the account numbers?
Christian Estripeau, head of communications for French military health services, said doctors are still performing tests. "When we have the results, we can release them if the family authorizes it, if the president authorizes it," he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/03/2004 1:12:55 AM || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  undergo tests that would not have been performed upon admission

? Dr. Steve?

Wind sprints?
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 2:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I would like to perform a nuclear test on the Arafish.
After the test he will glow in the dark for about two weeks.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 11/03/2004 3:56 Comments || Top||

#3  I saw some reference to Arafish's symptoms being consistent with advanced HIV infection.
Posted by: mhw || 11/03/2004 8:32 Comments || Top||

#4  mhw last guy I heard of that went to France to get cured for that died there. We should be so lucky.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 11/03/2004 8:48 Comments || Top||

#5  Call it "invasive procedures" on first guess. Colonoscopy, or the upper GI version, or a laproscopy, anything that might require sedation.

Or, he's taking the SAT's and hoping for a 1600.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/03/2004 9:46 Comments || Top||

#6  Call the proctologist.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 9:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Got it... sedation.
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 10:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Jeebus! A biography!
"I Wuz Yassers Butt Peeker"

Talk about combat pay.... the Bureau of Engraving and Printing has not cranked out enough notes for me to do that.....
Posted by: Shipman || 11/03/2004 10:33 Comments || Top||

#9  France...Socialized medicine...skip the sedation.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis || 11/03/2004 10:34 Comments || Top||

#10  I'd plump for Colonoscopy without sedation - I know from first hand experience that the entrance of the terminal ileum really stings - pray for perforation and resultant sepsis. However, an OD of midazolam could also be interesting - hope they tape it. Gibber Tweet Moo.
Posted by: Howard_UK || 11/03/2004 10:35 Comments || Top||

#11  Who are the "heads of state"? Names, names!
Posted by: chicago mike || 11/03/2004 15:58 Comments || Top||



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