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Suspect: Syrian Gave Turk Bombers $50,000
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Afghanistan-Pak-India
I too have a dream
HAMID NILNAGI
Last month a brother of ours had expressed his dream through Greater Kashmir. His dream of being an Indian and Kashmiri Muslim at once prompted me to pour out my heart too. Every one has a right to dream. People imagine good or bad, as everyone has a right to visualize whatever he or she likes because it does not cost and does not harm anyone so far they are within the confines of ones mind. But whenever dreams take any form whether words or actions they begin to show reaction. Newton’s law finds its application here “To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction”.
My fellow countrymen I too have a dream that one day my nation will succeed, it will overcome, and we will win. Here is a question that what I mean by my nation. It will mean different for different people. For some it is Kashmir only while for some it is Pakistan and for few others like my dreaming brother India. However my nation is something different from these visualizations. My nation encompasses the whole Islamic world from Africa to Europe, South East Asia to Arabia and Asia to Central Asia. My land “Kashmir” forms a special part of it. I visualize my land as a part of a bigger Islamic land or world. The nation constituted of Africa. Indonesia, Malaysia, Turkey, Iran, Arab peninsula upto Palestine (including Jerusalem) Pakistan, Tajkistan etc. as one world of mine. The today’s sovereign Muslim states (though not sovereign in real sense but slave states) as its provinces. It must be such that if I start sojourn from Srinagar no one will stop me to travel to any place in my ideal Islamic world. I need no travel documents and no police will check me to traverse any part of it whether be it Grozny or West Bank or Srinagar or Christina. I dream of a single government to rule the whole world headed by one Caliph who will have no palace to sleep except an ordinary and modest place under the sky. A great man like Hazrat Umar who will be accessible to all without any guards or darbans in between. Accessible more to farmers, laborers and poor people than to riches. There will be rule of law, no one will have right to harm or kill anyone. Everyone’s life will be protected as ordained in the book of Allah.
My nation will have a national capital situated in our beloved land of Hijaz where our Caliph and his associates will guide and serve the whole ummah. Besides it will have three sub-capitals one each at Jerusalem, Kaulalampur and Islamabad where we will have headquarters of our Aerial, Naval and Armed forces respectively. In addition there will be provincial capitals where provincial Amirs will run day to day affairs of our people. The Caliph and these Amirs will serve the Ummah as per the spirit of Qur’an and will be appointed only by the national/provincial shura which will consist of Ulema (highly god fearing learned men in both fields of Islam and technology with a practical background).
My land will have a national language, the language of Qur’an - Arabic, in which we will be taught all sciences whether Islamic or technological sciences. Besides, Arabic as a national language, people of my Islamic world will have their native language as additional language. I dream when Maulana Romi and Shiekh Saadi will replace Shakespere and John Milton. I dream when Baghdad, Bukhara, Samarkand, Ankara, Tehran, Kosovo, Islamabad, Dubia, Mecca, Medina, Tashkent, Groznyy, Kaulalampur, Jakarta, Khartoum, Jerusalem, Damascus, Qahira, Srinagar etc will have Universities of international standard and no student from any corner of my dream Islamic world will have any difficulty in getting admissions and studying his/her stream of like at any of these institutions at minimum cost with specially concession to economically downtrodden. I wait when these centres will replace London, Newyork, Berlin etc. I dream when our lands will again give birth to the people like Imam Bukhari, Razi, Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Ibn Hazm, Ibn Khaldoon, Ibn Ishaq, Ibn Nafis, Allama Iqbal from whose works the rest of world will again learn. I dream that when mothers like Hazrat Fatima RA, Hazrat Aisha RA, Hazrat Khadija RA, Hazrat Umm Salma RA and Rabia Basri will be there. Above all I believe and hope that once again Hussain RA, Hassan RA, Khalid RA, Zubair RA and make people show that Islam neither stands for head counted democracy nor Shiekhdom of Arabia.
My Islamic land will have big centres of learning where besides Islamic sciences latest technology will be taught leaving out the current western teachings. It will do away with that mad pursuit of technology that plays havoc with the moral and cultural upbringing of our children. Here I may point out Qur’an must have central focus in Islamic Sciences besides Prophet’s (SAW) sunnah which were mainly responsible before to help my people to be at the top of the world.
--To be concluded
(The author can be mailed at haamidi2003@yahoo.co.in)
Posted by: john || 10/11/2005 17:02 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  He should Ask the Imam about wet dreams...
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/11/2005 17:16 Comments || Top||

#2  I believe Hamid's been hitting the Kashmiri agricultural products a wee bit too hard.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 10/11/2005 18:01 Comments || Top||

#3  "My Islamic land will have big centres of learning where besides Islamic sciences latest technology will be taught leaving out the current western teachings."

"Islamic sciences"??? Like not being able to figure out when Ramafuckingdan starts? If you see your shadow, does it last 6 more weeks?

And I'm thinking you can't quote Newton's Third Law - you just tossed it on the fire.

I love this shit. IslamoLogic.

It refuses to co-exist. Submit or Sterilize. Cake or Death. It be binary.
Posted by: .com || 10/11/2005 18:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I have a dream - you died in it, Hamid
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 18:20 Comments || Top||

#5  "where besides Islamic sciences latest technology will be taught leaving out the current western teachings"
That would be an IED lab?
Posted by: Darrell || 10/11/2005 19:36 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Buckley: The Right's Practical Intellectual
By E. J. Dionne Jr.
It is time that I confess to an illicit love. I am now, and have been almost all my life, an admirer of William F. Buckley Jr.
I've liked Buckley for years, too, ever since I discovered National Review, back in the Paleolithic.
The skeptical conservative might say it's easy for a liberal to like this elitist Yale grad who uses big words, hangs with the likes of John Kenneth Galbraith and has led a rather glamorous life. I'll admit to admiring Buckley's love of life, to enjoying his novels and to sharing his respect for Galbraith. But I'm not a fan of big words, Yale grads, glamour or elitism.
I guess its my inate conservatism that makes me enjoy genuine erudition, well-reasoned argument, and occasional rapier wit. Liberals don't seem to do well with any of them.
And it's not easy for any liberal to agree with Buckley's support long ago for Joe McCarthy. (His novel about McCarthy was better).
I happen to harbor strong feelings of apathy about McCarthy, myself. Since I was a mere tad at the time he was posturing and fulminating, I missed the show. As I've grown older, many of the accusations he made while rolling his eyes and foaming at the mouth and browbeating innocent Hollywood innalecks seem to have turned out to be true. So the messenger may have been scuzzy, but the message seems to have been accurate. Which do you go for? Truth? Or palatability?
It's hard to credit his views in the civil rights era or to identify with his many knocks on that courageous liberal Republican, former senator Lowell Weicker.
Actually, I don't recall Buckley's views in the civil rights era. I have an old copy of The Jeweller's Eye on my bookshelf, written in the late 60s, so I suppose I can look them up. Somehow I can't see him in a sheet, cavorting with people named Festus and Puling, but I can certainly picture him looking askance as the opportunists took a good idea and turned it into careers. And Weicker's long forgotten by most of us; Buckley's not. What's that tell you?
Still, I will always respect this columnist, editor, novelist, lecturer and organizer because he undertook a mission and carried it out with real genius. He knew conservatism needed a serious intellectual life if conservative ideas were to be considered by those outside the right's faithful remnant. That's why he founded National Review magazine, which is celebrating its 50th anniversary this year.
That was back in the days when liberals were chock full of ideas and Republicans hung around the country club. Problem was, the ideas the liberals were chock full of had all been developed in the Roosevelt era, though the Pubs were worse, being stuck in 1928...
He knew cranks were bad for the movement. He knew that deep splits among conservatives -- between internationalists and isolationists, libertarians and traditionalists -- had to be resolved.
Not necessarily resolved. It's arguing the points that makes for new syntheses. If the conservative end of the political spectrum ever reaches total agreement we're in large trouble...
Buckley felt no compunction about challenging liberal elites on their own ground. He fired plenty of shots at liberal dominance of academe, beginning with his first book, "God and Man at Yale." In the process, he pioneered the most effective form of conservative jujitsu: a movement devoted to the interests of the wealthy and powerful casting itself as a collection of populists challenging liberal snobbery.
I'd take issue with the idea that conservatism is devoted to the interests of the wealthy and powerful. In fact, I'd go so far as to call it a fallacy. It's the reason libs are now moribund. Anyone — immigrants, factory workers, coal miners, bums on the street — has the opportunity to make a decent life for him/her/itself, given a stable society and working laws. You don't need to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth, and you sure as hell don't need block coordinators enforcing "unity in the community."
Buckley was determined to rid the right of the wing nuts. He was, to his everlasting credit, the scourge of an anti-Semitism that once had a hold on significant parts of the right. He also blasted the strange conspiracy theories of the John Birch Society.
The conspiracy theorists then went on to become Democrats...
But most important were Buckley's efforts during the 1950s to resolve conservatism's contradictions. These exertions made it possible for Barry Goldwater and then Ronald Reagan to turn the remnant into a mighty political force. Buckley dumped isolationism, not so hard since many former isolationists were happy with an aggressive American foreign policy as long as the enemy was Soviet communism.
Soviet communism... Soviet communism?... Oh, yes. I remember it now. It was a political movement that lasted until about 20 years ago. It enforced a totalitarian form of government on much of Eastern Europe and it was intent on world domination. Certainly no reason to have an aggressive foreign policy...
More difficult was resolving the contradiction between anti-government libertarians -- their primary love was individual freedom -- and the traditionalists who believed in government's role as a promoter of virtue and community. One of National Review's primary tasks was dealing with this doctrinal conundrum. Frank Meyer, Buckley's friend and magazine colleague, came up with what is known as "fusionism." It was an attempt to fuse the two forms of conservatism into one. Libertarians needed to learn that the freedom they revered was insecure absent the cultivation of personal virtue and a moral order hospitable to liberty. Traditionalists were not to confuse the legitimate authority of tradition with the illegitimate power of big government. The United States was fundamentally a conservative society, the theory went, so our country was a place in which liberty was conducive to a reverence for tradition.
Being conservative involves not giving up elements of society that are valuable for the sake of mere change. Since the country was founded on the concept of personal liberty, it should be the absolute last thing we're willing to give up. Libertarianism (with a small "L") is an overlay, a separate stream of thought, that mostly comes under the intellectual umbrella of Republicanism. The small-L libertarian is smart enough to realize that the ultimate, illogical extension of libertarianism is anarchy. Unlike anarchists, they don't consider that a good thing. So individual liberty continues to involve tradeoffs — your right to swing your fist, my right not to be punched in the mush. Trading off those rights in the authoritarian nanny state direction gives us a hyperconcern about offending the easily offended: Moose limbs, but also whatever racial or ethnic group's looking to make a little money this month. Going the other direction gives you Somalia, or at least Seattle during a demonstration.
Fusionism, brilliant though it was, never fully cohered. Contemporary conservatism always threatens to fly apart, as it seems to be doing now.
Contemporary conservatism spends a lot of time discussing, occasionally arguing. With a strong libertarian undercurrent, we're not real big on uniformity of thought.
Conservatism's goals are a combustible mix: an expansive and expensive foreign policy, low taxes, support for government intervention in the personal sphere (to promote a conservative vision of virtue) but not in the economic sphere. For some of us, the mix makes little sense.
To others of us, it's eminently sensible. An expansive and expensive foreign policy? How about "to provide for the common defense"? Teddy Roosevelt could understand it, why can't today's libs? Low taxes? It's our money. We'll contribute to running the nation — there are legitimate areas where government should provide — but we don't like shoveling money down ratholes without seeing results. Support for government intervention in the personal sphere? To liberals, that mostly means abortion, since everything else seems to be fair game for intervention: guns, curriculum content, business regulation, what's advertised, what we eat and drink, how many miles per gallon our cars get, and a thousand other things. I'd like to see the libertarian wing of the Republican party swing a little more weight in this respect, but I'll take the conservative approach over the liberal approach any time.
But if liberals are to exercise power again, they need to come to terms with Buckley's genius in understanding how ideas interact with the day-to-day needs of politics.
If libs are to exercise power again they need to start arguing and disagreeing, instead of giving each other group hugs and back rubs.
Buckley was more intellectual than most practical politicians, and more practical than most intellectuals.
As well as being smarter than most liberals. Don't forget that part.
Last week, in the middle of the conservative meltdown over President Bush's nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, a White House event in honor of Buckley's coming 80th birthday and his magazine's anniversary created a brief moment of civility between Bush and the harshest critics of the Miers pick. That every kind of conservative showed up for Buckley was a momentary triumph of fusionism.
Not momentary at all. It's a feature, not a bug.
My main criticism of Buckley is that he was far too effective on behalf of a movement that I think should be driven from power. And if you read that as a compliment, you're right.
My main criticism of Buckley is that he never sent me bus fare to come and meet him. There aren't many people I can think of with whom I'd rather spend an afternoon.
Posted by: Fred || 10/11/2005 12:26 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And he also had an incredible wit. When he ran for the position of Mayor of NYC he was asked...
"What's the first thing you would do if elected?"

His answer...."Demand a re-count."


He was my guide to becoming a conservative when I started reading his column 40+ years ago.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/11/2005 14:17 Comments || Top||

#2  I used to fancy myself somewhat of an intellectual - until I started reading Buckley's commentary. He always threw in one or two recondite [hat tip - WFB] ideas that I had to parse several times to understand.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 10/11/2005 15:50 Comments || Top||

#3  I remember "Firing Line" when I was a teeenager - he could say a few words, sharpened into a death thrust, and the twinkle in his eye as he smiled and skewered a Jesse Jackson or Gov. Maaaario were a thing to behold :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/11/2005 16:24 Comments || Top||

#4  But I'm not a fan of big words, Yale grads, glamour or elitism.

Consider the source...

An expansive and expensive foreign policy...

As opposed to, say, expansive and expensive entitlement programs, the hallmarks of liberal icons FDR and LBJ?

Great fisk, Fred.
Posted by: Raj || 10/11/2005 17:51 Comments || Top||

#5  WFB recently said Pat "Buchanvald" Buchanan was too "fond of the swastika" in response to Buchanan's endless neocon crap. Thanks Bill.
Posted by: Bardo || 10/11/2005 23:16 Comments || Top||



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Tue 2005-10-11
  Suspect: Syrian Gave Turk Bombers $50,000
Mon 2005-10-10
  Bombs at Georgia Tech campus, UCLA
Sun 2005-10-09
  Quake kills 30,000+ in Pak-India-Afghanistan
Sat 2005-10-08
  NYPD, FBI hunting possible bomber in NYC
Fri 2005-10-07
  NYC named in subway terror threat
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  Moussa Arafat's deputy bumped off
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  US launches biggest offensive of the year
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  Talib spokesman snagged in Pakland
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  Dhaka arrests July 2000 boom mastermind
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  At least 22 dead in Bali blasts
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  Leb: 'Army deploys troops along Syrian border'
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