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2005-10-11 Iraq

Sunnis Push Campaign Against Constitution

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Posted by Fred 2005-10-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Vote or die, mf

Posted by Captain America 2005-10-11 02:35|| 2005-10-11 02:35|| Front Page Top

#2 History has caught to to the "Iraqi" (bogus BS entity) Sunnis. This will be the pivot point, for me. Kill the constitution - and you've killed yourselves, Soft Boyz. Support it, and you'll have a life... Not as overlords, but as citizens of something resembling one of those "nation" thingys.

Cake or Death?

Posted by .com 2005-10-11 03:01|| 2005-10-11 03:01|| Front Page Top

#3 AFAICT the Sunnis have some legitimate gripes with the constitution - not the arab identity thing, but with the degree of autonomy to the regions, and the apparent goal of SCIRI to make a seperate southern region. The degree of regional control over economics and oil is the hot button - its one thing to give up control over all of Iraq, its another to be cut out of most of the oil revenue.

On the other hand, i think if the consitution wins, the best Sunni approach will be then to participate in the constitution, and hope to effect its implementation. AFAICT many sunni leaders are looking in that direction.

OTOH if the constitution loses, then it will be up to the next govt (elected in December) to try again. That should NOT be seen as a US defeat, though some in the MSM will attempt to paint it as such.

I note with interest that Sistani has asked that clerics close to him NOT run in the December elections. Apparently his involvement on behalf of the United Iraqi Alliance in the January elections now looks like a mistake, even to him. This may well be a good thing, as it may move Iraq to cross cutting coalitions, rather than solid Shiite block.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-10-11 12:12|| 2005-10-11 12:12|| Front Page Top

#4 Cake or Death?

And ya better make up yer mind quick, cuz we're running out of cake.

Posted by docob 2005-10-11 12:27|| 2005-10-11 12:27|| Front Page Top

#5 OTOH if the constitution loses, then it will be up to the next govt (elected in December) to try again. That should NOT be seen as a US defeat, though some in the MSM will attempt to paint it as such.

Some? Try 90%+. Maybe even higher, considering the way Shep and the Corner responded to Katrina.

Posted by docob 2005-10-11 12:39|| 2005-10-11 12:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Isnt' this an interim constitution? And even if it isn't, the Iraqis can amend it later.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-11 14:32|| 2005-10-11 14:32|| Front Page Top

#7 All solutions are temporary.

Posted by Shavirt Fleater3140 2005-10-11 14:33|| 2005-10-11 14:33|| Front Page Top

#8 flash - a new deal has been reached, in which the Shiites and Kurds pledge that the next parliament, to be elected in December, can propose amendments to the constitution, to be subject to referendum.

In response the Iraqi Islamic Party, one of the leading Sunni parties calling for a no vote, has flipped and is calling for a yes vote.

All per AP.

Victory snatched from the jaws of defeat department?

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-10-11 17:38|| 2005-10-11 17:38|| Front Page Top

#9 naturally the deal is reached at the last possible moment.

"you know, 1000 dinars IS a good price for that rug after all. I'll take it" :)

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-10-11 17:48|| 2005-10-11 17:48|| Front Page Top

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