As President Barack Obama and his team sat on tenterhooks in the Situation Room, the CIA director Leon Panetta broke the silence with the memorable words: "We have a visual on Geronimo."
It was the first confirmation that Osama bin Laden, who had been given the 19th Century Apache leader's name as a code word, was definitely in the compound in Pakistan.
Shortly afterwards, a Navy Seal halfway across the world sent the message "Geronimo EKIA" -- meaning enemy killed in action -- which was relayed to a jubilant White House Situation Room.
US President Barack Obama watched events unfold sitting in the thousands of miles away from the al-Qaeda leader's compound in Abbottabad. In one picture released by the White House, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sits near the president, her hand covering her mouth. Mr Obama is leaning forward in his chair in the same photograph, watching intently as the raid takes place.
The White House last night changed key elements of its account of Osama bin Laden's death, admitting that the al-Qaeda leader was not armed and that his wife was neither killed nor used as a human shield as senior aides had previously claimed. So?
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Shutup already! Jihadis like to be photographed with their "kalish." There is no way that OBL wasn't either holding a weapon, or poised to grab one. Team Six commandos were wearing helmut-cams. While the video stream shouldn't be released, because it would appear in terror videos, it should be reviewed by oversight agencies, like Nobama GOP Congress members.
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There seems to have been an awful large number of Al Qaeda and their breeding stock in that house. I hope the SEALs brought enough lift for them all to see the sights from the USS Vinson.
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Am I the only one who finds it a little odd that a potential intelligence gold mine (OBL) was killed rather than captured.
It also occurs to me that perhaps Obama didn't want the embarassment of a new Gitmo resident focusing the media on his failure to shut it down as he endlessly promised.
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Personally I'm more interested in the status/condition of his health.
Again, the Osama I knew from the 1980's Afghan War would had known to keep moving around to avoid capture by the US-NATO - iff the Abbottobad compound was indeed built specifically for Osama, IMO IT MEANT OR INFERS THAT HIS HEALTH PROBS [e.g. Diabetes] WAS LIKELY STARTING TO SERIOUSLY AFFECT HIM PHYSICALLY WID OR WIDOUT THE PRESENCE OF ANY PORTABLE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT + SKILLED MEDICAL TECHS.
Osama's family + entourage at Abbottobad should know the true state of his health - the USN SEALS, however, would not.
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All that shooting going on and he doesn't grab a weapon? Life's hard when you're stupid.
Or maybe he didn't worship death as much as he said he did? Oh, well. Guess we'll never know...
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As for the Bammer, Radical Islam is escalating its TerrOps in AFPAK + IRAQ as the US begins its planned withdrawl of forces from the regions - as illustrated by IRAN'S post-OSAMA statements, in the eyes of many Muslims the alleged death of Osama Bin Laden means the US no longer has any business keeping Milfors in Muslim Countries + Regions.
POTUS BAMMER'S PREDICAMENT > Besides the ABOVE, US Milfors withdrawn from AFPAK + IRAQ are coming home to a CONUS WID LITTLE TO NO JOBS FOR RETURNING US GWOT VETS.
E.g. NET > The USN SEALS Org [etc. USDOD] whose members raided Abbottobad were repor at real risk of NOT GETTING THEIR NORMAL PAYCHECKS ON TIME PRIOR TO CONDUCTING THE RAID ON OSAMA, as due to ongoing US Budget woes + GOP-DEM impasse oer the Deficit.
The most influential Islamic institution among Sunni Muslims condemns the sea burial of Osama bin Laden. Obama took pains to make sure that Osama would get a proper Islamic burial, but since he wanted to bury the body quickly (in accord with Islamic law) and couldn't find a country that would take the body (and probably also didn't want to create a place of pilgrimage and anti-American agitation), he buried him at sea. He was trying to show the Islamic world that the U.S. is not at war with Islam, but ended up enraging Muslims anyway -- demonstrating yet again that dhimmi pandering gets nowhere.
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I think that we should have done a Black Jack Pershing number on him, and buried him in a pit filled with pig blood and offal, with photographs and one or two live assymetric warriors (translates as murderous, cowardly dogs) to go home and spread the good word.
Seemed to calm down the Moros for decades after. Can't get those 21 virgins all covered in pig blood, eh Achmed?
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It seems points are deducted when the buriers aren't a prepare Muslim authority... just like non-Muslims don't get to pronounce judgement on Allah's face believers, or fight back when attacked.
A pity those uppity American dhimmis refuse to take this critical concept on board.
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Good. I hope they critique and nitpick and rage away. Maybe B.O. will start realizing that no matter what he does, he will be regarded as a crusader kufr just as much as any of us juices or bitter clingers.
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"Lieutenant, has the body been prepared in accordance with sacred Muslim ritual?"
"Yes, sir."
"Outstanding. Now bring me five pounds of bacon and the largest can of lard the galley has."
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B Dubya: Technical point. Pershing himself did not order that. He had some subordinate generals that were very hard men, however, and it was done at their orders.
For further, entertaining information, check out "General Order Number 100", aka "The Lieber Code", first written during the US Civil War, and applied "liberally" during the Philippine Insurrection.
[Tolo News] Following the death of Osama Bin Laden in Pakistain, former chief of Afghan intelligence agency said Pakistain is a commanding base to al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
Amrullah Saleh, former chief of Afghan National Directorate of Security (NDS), said Osama's death is an indication of Pakistain supporting al-Qaeda terror network and the Taliban.
In a televised address the US President Barack B.O. Obama told Americans and the whole world that leader of al-Qaeda network, who is responsible for the death of thousands of innocent civilians in the world, was killed in an operation conducted by US military in Abbottabad which is not so far away from Islamabad.
Officials in Kabul said the death of the leader of al-Qaeda in Pakistain is irrefutable evidence changing Afghan claims into a reality that Pakistain backs and fuels regional insurgency.
This is impossible that a nuclear armed country could be unaware of the world most wanted man living and camping in the heart of its territory, Mr Saleh said.
"Today claims made by Afghans were proved to be right," he said.
In a sarcastic tone, Mr Saleh suggested to the government to go into negotiation with Islamabad rather the the Taliban.
Hey wait a minute -- he's not being smooth and diplomatic, kowtowing to Pakistan's regional hegemony. You don't suppose Pakistan's regional hegemony just popped along with Osama bin Laden's head?
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[Iran Press TV] President Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai ... A former Baltimore restaurateur, now 12th and current President of Afghanistan, displacing the legitimate president Rabbani in December 2004. He was installed as the dominant political figure after the removal of the Taliban regime in late 2001 in a vain attempt to put a Pashtun face on the successor state to the Taliban. After the 2004 presidential election, he was declared president regardless of what the actual vote count was. He won a second, even more dubious, five-year-term after the 2009 presidential election. His grip on reality has been slipping steadily since around 2007, probably from heavy drug use... has urged the US-led forces to refrain from bombing Afghan civilians in the name of the so-called war on terrorism.
Even the naive reporters at National Public Radio think this is a pro forma statement, and what's important is what's said in the private meetings.
Karzai said on Monday that Afghan civilians have been killed on a daily basis and are the victims of terrorism.
He called on NATO to target the hiding places of beturbanned goons instead of launching attacks on civilian areas.
Karzai also underlined the Afghan people's patience and sacrifice during the United States' so-called "war on terror."
Hundreds of Afghan civilians have bit the dust in US-led Arclight airstrikes and ground operations in various parts of Afghanistan over the past few months.
The frequent attacks have resulted in growing anti-American sentiments.
This comes after a majority of Afghan tribal leaders opposed a strategic deal with the US which would authorize the establishment of permanent military bases in the country.
The tribal elders voted against the deal in a meeting with the Afghan president.
The remarks come hours after US President Barack B.O. Obama announced that al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden had been killed in a military attack on a compound in northeastern Pakistain.
The United States accuses bin Laden of having criminal masterminded a number of terrorist operations, including the attacks on New York and Washington on September 11, 2001.
The president in his remarks also called on the Taliban to refrain from fighting.
However, The didactic However... NATO says it will not leave Afghanistan, despite the US confirmation that bin Laden has been killed in a military operation.
A Press TV correspondent says Talibs have vowed to escalate attacks against the foreign forces in the war-ravaged country.
Militants have warned of a fresh wave of attacks against foreign troops, Afghan cops and government officials. They say the operations will focus on military centers, places of gatherings, airbases, and military convoys.
They have also warned that Afghan government buildings will be targeted and have called on Afghan civilians to stay away from these centers.
Violence across Afghanistan hit record levels in 2010, with civilian and military casualties the worst since the start of the US-led war in 2001.
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civilians like Osama?
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Democraticization prior to attainment of security, is not good nation building. It might have looked good in January 2002, but...
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Come on Moslamb Bros! In these financial times a few sniper bullets, albeit effectively administered by our wonderful Seals, is more cost effective than a jury trial with some dimwitted jury that surely would be multicultural since the ACLPew would insist on it.
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Just think... if your a registered brother.... he just might have had your name (and particulars) on one his harddrives that the SpecOps and CIA now have... Sleep tight a-holes.
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The Mooselimb Bros did do for Sadat about like we did for Benny.
Its hard to take them seriously. They are nothing more than some sort of speed bump and wont last long in history anyway.
What do moslems call those funny little hats they wear? And if you were asked could YOu tell me where Arafat is buried...I mean other than within a hundred miles?
And who was that moslem holy man who got blown up in a smoking wheelchair much like Mudigniyey(?) who got flipped and fried when he turned the ignition key? Islam has a lot of that, and the bazaars of Baghdad in the good old days and the fire hoses to wash the blood away. Islam marches on.....
Think Islam , think cheap detonators.
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If he wanted a trial, he could have turned himself in at numerous times and locations in the last 10 years. It wasn't like he didn't know we were looking for him.
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Tried? BS. Who is their right mind would put on this dog and goat show which would be propaganda for AQ and all islamists? He was an enemy combatant. As PK2 said he could have turned himself in during the last 10 years.
Not sure what to make of this. Is the government going after medical staff who aided protestors, or did Sunni staff do the things alleged to wounded shiites (which wouldn't surprise me too much).
Bahrain says it will charge a number of medical workers with causing the death of two demonstrators, broadening a crackdown on the opposition in the wake of protests that shook the Gulf island kingdom. Human rights groups say Sunni-led Bahrain has targeted doctors and medical staff who aided mostly Shiite protesters during anti-government demonstrations it crushed in March.
Justice minister Khaled bin Ali al-Khalifa told reporters 47 medical staff would face charges, including about two dozen doctors. Not all of them would be prosecuted for causing the protesters deaths, but he did not specify how many would face such charges. He alleged the two protesters died because staff inflicted additional wounds on them or gave unneeded treatments.
"The medical profession was strongly abused during this period," he said.
Bahraini forces stormed the Salmaniyya Medical Centre (SMC), the country's largest hospital in mid-March as it set about quelling protests led mostly by the country's Shiite majority. Bahraini officials said at the time the hospital had become "overrun by political and sectarian activity".
According to Sheikh Khaled, doctors inflicted additional wounds on a protester who arrived at SMC with a wound on his thigh, causing him to bleed to death. He said that in another case doctors conducted unnecessary surgery on a protester who was shot in the head, adding the doctors involved in these two cases would be charged with "assault that led to death".
[jpost] The Dutch government cracked down last week on the Turkish IHH affiliate in the Netherlands the main organizer of a planned Gaza flotilla because of its involvement with Hamas.
Dutch Foreign Minister Uri Rosenthal told The Jerusalem Post on Friday that he has placed the [IHH Netherlands] on the Dutch list of terrorist organizations and froze its assets, because IHH Netherlands regularly transferred funds to IHH Germany. This organization is banned in Germany because it has raised funds for Hamas. Hamas has been on the EU list of terrorist organizations since 2003.
He added that: The decision to list IHH Netherlands was taken independently from the current plans to organize a new flotilla. The government is opposed to the flotilla.
Asked about the slated May or June second Gaza flotilla action, Rosenthal told the Post, The Dutch government believes that the second Gaza flotilla is countereffective to further opening of the regular border crossings.
Especially taking into account that the Dutch government is trying to advance the export of flowers and fruits from Gaza.
Rosenthal noted that, The Netherlands government has called upon organizations to refrain from participation in the Gaza flotilla since it will not help to improve the situation in Gaza. Under Dutch law, however, the government cannot prevent ships from setting sail.
On Saturday, via phone from Holland, Ronny Naftaniel, head of The Haguebased Center for Information and Documentation on Israel, told the Post that the Dutch governments action against IHH was very wise.
He added that the Dutch Gaza flotilla claims to be on a humanitarian mission but everyone sees there is enough in Gaza. Egypt opened its border. Everyone can bring food and medicine into Gaza, if needed. Actually they should help the Arabs under pressure in Libya and Syria, instead of Gaza.
The Post learned on Friday that main organizers behind the Dutch Gaza flotilla were involved in left-wing and Islamic-based terror activities.
Rob Groenhuijzen, a pro-Palestinian activist in Holland, is its chairman. He was reportedly convicted of weapons possession as a member of the left-wing extremists Red Youth.
Amin Abu Rashed (who has used various spellings of his name, including Amin Abu Ibrahim), is a Dutch citizen with ties with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. He was one of the principal European organizers of the 2010 Gaza flotilla, and was aboard the Mavi Marmara. Israel detained him after seizing the vessel for its attempt to violate the IDF naval blockade of Gaza. According to Dutch intelligence reports, Rashed raised money through the Al-Aqsa foundation in Holland for Hamas.
Yochanan Visser, an expert on Dutch-Israeli relations who made aliya from the Netherlands in 2000, and is head of the organization Missing Peace told the Post on Friday that the The chairman [Groenhuijzen] of the Free Gaza movement in Holland is a convicted terrorist, who was a member of the Red Youth, an extremist organization modeled after the Rote Armee Fraktion in Germany, and has ties with the PFLP. He was sentenced to one-and-a-half years in jail for possession of arms in 1977.
Officially he states that the aim of Free Gaza is to force Israel to abide by international law, but in reality his views are compatible to those of the IHH. He has reportedly admitted that providing humanitarian aid is not the aim of the second flotilla.
That leaves aiding Hamas and breaking the blockade as the real aims of Free Gaza Holland.
E-mail queries to contact Groenhuijzen were not immediately returned.
Last week, a majority of the Dutch parliament voted to ratify a motion condemning the IHH flotilla as an action aimed against a friendly nation, and stated there are sufficient legal avenues to provide the Gaza population with humanitarian aid. The motion noted that second Gaza flotilla could be construed as aiding terrorist organizations.
A legislative effort is underway in the Dutch parliament to place the IHH on the European Unions terror list. In 2009, the parliament in an unprecedented legislative action in Europe passed a resolution urging the EU to designate Irans revolutionary guard corps as a terrorist entity.
Visser, from Missing Peace, told the Post, I agree with Dutch MP Joël Voordewinds proposal to ban IHH in Holland and to add the organization to the EU list of terrorist organizations. There is enough evidence that IHH is a terrorist organization that organizes the flotillas only to support Hamas and to provoke Israel... That should be enough reason for the Dutch government to reconsider and to put a ban on the Dutch participation in the second flotilla.
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The IHH is a front for 2 Turk' islamonazi parties. The fact that IHH stooges and operatives regularly appear on the Ayatollah's "Press TV," is also a tell.
No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been increased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office. - Art I, Section 6
To go to Afghanistan he would have to be 'activated' by federal authority and as such would hold a second federal office with the commission of LTC. Of course in a 'living breathing' interpretation, he could, but by strict constructionist/originalism interpretation, no.
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..don't get me wrong. I support the old Roman practice of sending senators out with the 'legions'. It's great quality assurance in making sure the troops get the training and equipment they need, since the senators' butts are on the line as well. It's sort of like making parachute packers randomly pull one of their products and having to jump with it.
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Proco - would military activation qualify as 'appointment' for Constitutional purposes? And would military office qualify as 'civil Office?'
It's not clear to me (but IANAL) that there is any Constitutional problem with Sen. Brown's plan.
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As the say, follow the money. While on active duty in Afghanistan he will be on DoD's payroll, not Massachusetts. It won't even be 'laundered' through the state. Common term used is 'federalized' for duty, particularly in an overseas assignment. He will be in an office - commissioned officer. Had he done his duty in state, or through compact agreement with another state [disaster relief, joint training, etc], and the pay coming from Boston, then it wouldn't be a issue.
A full scale replica of Osama bin Laden's compound was built at Afghanistan's Bagram airbase as part of meticulous planning for the raid by US special forces
US President Obama and his national security team spent hairy moments in the White House Situation Room on Sunday worrying among other things that Pakistan would mistake the Osama-specific American commando raid on Abbottabad for an Indian attack.
In fact, a top US official disclosed in a briefing on Monday that the Pakistanis even scrambled their jets when they realized something was afoot in Abbottabad, but the US commandos finished their operation in 40 minutes and were out of there before the Pakistanis acted.
''The Pakistanis were reacting to an incident that they knew was taking place in Abbottabad. Therefore, they were scrambling some of their assets,'' US counterterrorism czar John Brennan revealed while providing some operational details of the mission. It was not clear if the ''assets'' Brennan referred to included just fighter jets or other options ranging from anti-aircraft fire to missiles.
[Iran Press TV] Pak President Asif Ali President Ten Percent Zardari ... sticky-fingered husband of the late Benazir Bhutto ... has held an emergency meeting with the country's security officials after the US President confirmed that al-Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden He's dead, Jim! was killed by US forces.
The meeting between Zardari, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and the heads of "relevant departments and agencies" ended a short while ago, presidency front man Farhatullah Babar told AFP.
"The foreign office will issue a formal statement of the government of Pakistain on the Osama bin Laden incident," he said.
US forces launched an operation against bin Laden's compound in the Pak town of Abbottabad in northeast of Islamabad on Sunday, killing bin Laden and a woman and injuring three other men, including the al-Qaeda leader's son.
The B.O. regime did not notify the Pak government about its plan to launch the attack on bin Laden's compound, arguing that the reason for not sharing intelligence with Islamabad was "the need to maintain complete secrecy" about the operation.
The death of Osama bin Laden comes almost ten years after the September 11, 2001 attacks against the United States which resulted in the death of nearly 3,000 people.
The death of the al-Qaeda leader will likely trigger violence in areas of the world where the terrorist group has footholds, including Afghanistan, Pakistain, Morocco and Algeria.
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Lot's of humina humina humina and harrumphing at that meeting I'll bet...
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Pakistan is not our friend. I vote we set them on each other whenever we can. Buy a few and then use the intell to queer some more.
Poke it with a stick.
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[Arab News] Although the killing of the late Osama bin Laden ... who is currently residing with Hitler and Himmler... in an American operation deep inside Pakistain has provided the United States with an excellent political victory, it will have no great effect on Al-Qaeda's operational capability, popular Pak broadcast journalist Dr. Shahid Masood said Monday.
"Bin Laden was their target No. 1. It was the hunt for Bin Laden that brought the Americans to Kabul and Kandahar. Now that they have got him, US President Barack B.O. Obama has a perfect reason to make an exit from Afghanistan," he told Arab News in an interview by phone from Pakistain. "It is Pakistain that now faces the real dilemma."
According to him, Bin Laden's death will not impact adversely on Al-Qaeda. "Bin Laden was inactive for a fairly long time, and the terror group's command was in reality in the hands of his No. 2 Ayman Al-Zawahiri," ... Second in command of al-Qaeda, occasionally described as the real brains of the outfit. Formerly the Mister Big of Egyptian Islamic Jihad. Bumped off Abdullah Azzam with a car boom in the course of one of their little disputes. Is thought to have composed bin Laden's fatwa entitled World Islamic Front Against Jews and Crusaders. Currently residing in the North Wazoo area. That is not a horn growing from the middle of his forehead, but a prayer bump, attesting to how devout he is... he said.
Masood said Bin Laden's killing would result in a huge backlash worldwide. "The lower rung or the second tier or the third tier of whatever is left of Al-Qaeda will be more agitated than ever," he said. "My sources in Pakistain tell me that there will be a violent reaction from organizations that may not necessarily be linked with Al-Qaeda but which do share the terror group's ideology. It is a fact that there are many smaller groups that take their inspiration from Al-Qaeda, and there is every possibility of more Al-Qaeda-like groups emerging on the scene. These are the groups that may react violently to avenge Bin Laden's death," he said.
He said it was still too early to speculate on what kind of cooperation if any took place between the Americans and Paks.
"In his speech from the White House, US President Barack Obama made it clear that it was not a drone attack. He said it was a purely American operation in which American troops actually landed and conducted an operation on the Pak soil. This will raise lot many questions about the violation of Pakistain's illusory sovereignty," said Masood. "Bin Laden's discovery in Pakistain is not good news for us."
He repeatedly pointed out that the place where the killing took place is far away from the border with Afghanistan. "We are talking about Abbottabad -- a beautiful, green hill city nestled among the mountains. It is located in Pakistain's Northwest Frontier Province which has now been renamed as Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa ... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central... province. Our military has one of its most prestigious and finest military institutions called The Kakul Military Academy in this area. In fact, Kakul is a mere half-an-hour away from where the Bin Laden compounded was situated. This is not a tribal area. It is an urban center, and most of the prestigious schools meant for children of Pakistain's elite are located in Abbottabad. For Osama Bin Laden to be found in this area will be hugely embarrassing for Pakistain," he said. "Remember Pak Army chief Gen. Pervez Kayani ... four star general, current Chief of Army Staff of the Mighty Pak Army. Kayani is the former Director General of ISI... delivered a lecture at this very academy two days ago."
Masood said there was no real disagreement between the Pak military and US military on the issue of Bin Laden. "Both were on the same page vis-à-vis Bin Laden; both saw him as an irritant; the real conflict between the two was on the role of Taliban," he said. "I see no great fissures in ties between the two sides."
On the strain between Pakistain and India, he said Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were never a factor. "India has complained about organizations such as the Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad which were in existence long before Al-Qaeda emerged. Therefore, despite all the bluster from New Delhi, my understanding is that there will be no adverse impact on Pakistain-India ties."
However, The wishy-washy However... Masood said, there will be a series of embarrassments for Pakistain when answers emerge to key questions such as: What role did Pak security agencies play in the operation? Who provided the intelligence -- and to whom? If Pakistain had the intelligence why did it not carry out the operation itself? Why did it allow the Americans to conduct the operation? Or was Pakistain informed after the American troops had already landed in Abbottabad?
"It is pertinent to note that Obama praised Pak President Asif Ali President Ten Percent Zardari ... sticky-fingered husband of the late Benazir Bhutto ... but not the Pak security forces or the Pak military," he pointed out. "Since we have not heard from the military and our intelligence agency, the ISI, we will have to wait for answers to all the key questions, and that will determine the people's reaction," he said.
In past, Masood pointed out, it was always mentioned that Pak forces were involved in all anti-Al-Qaeda operations. "During the days of Pervez Perv Musharraf ... former dictator of Pakistain, who was less dictatorial and corrupt than any Pak civilian government to date ... when high-profile Al-Qaeda members were tossed in the calaboose such as Khalid Sheikh Muhammad and Abu Zubeida, it used to be mentioned that actionable intelligence was provided by the Americans and that the actual operations were conducted by the Paks themselves. Here we have American troops conducting the operation all by themselves and actually taking away the body of Bin Laden. This will have far-reaching implications, if not consequences," he said.
The well-known journalist, who rode a crest of popularity in the post-9/11 Mohammedan world, said Bin Laden's death will not change anything on the ground in Afghanistan. "The fight in that country is being led by young Afghans. Al-Qaeda may have been involved in a couple of attacks, but the actual fight there is being led by the Taliban. Their leadership is intact. Mullah Omar is alive, and so is key fighter Sirajuddin Haqqani. For the young Taliban, Osama was like an elder figure, a charismatic figure. In his death, they will fight with greater vigor and with greater vengeance."
Masood admitted that Pakistain will be under immense pressure. "The Americans will now insist that Mullah Omar is also in Pakistain, Al-Zawahiri is also in Pakistain. These pressures are to be expected. However much we say we don't have them that will not be listened to. Pakistain's military and civilian craftsmanship will be tested to the fullest in the coming days."
Another important factor in the kind of reaction that might follow will depend on how the Americans treat Bin Laden's body. "So far they have said they are according it the respect that a dead man deserves," said Masood. "They have also promised to bury him in accordance with his faith. However, The all-purpose However... a lot will depend on what kind of videos of this operation emerge. We have seen how the Americans dealt with Saddam Hussein after he was caught and how Saddam Hussein was mistreated while being hanged. Those videos came in very handy as recruitment tools for Death Eater groups in the Arab and Mohammedan world."
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See also DAILY TIMES.PK > EXPERTS: OSAMA DEATH NO GAME-CHANGER IN AFGHANISTAN.
OBL was just one Man, albeit an important one, among many.
[Dawn] The killing of al-Qaeda criminal mastermindthe late Osama bin Laden ... who no longer exists... near Islamabad is further evidence that Death Eaters find "sanctuary" in Pakistain, Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram said Monday.
"We take note with grave concern that part of the statement in which President B.O. said that the firefight in which Osama bin Laden was killed took place in Abbottabad 'deep inside Pakistain'," Chidambaram said in a statement.
"This fact underlines our concern that Death Eaters belonging to different organisations find sanctuary in Pakistain," Chidambaram said as Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh urged Islamabad to take action against beturbanned goons.
"The international community and Pakistain in particular must work comprehensively to end the activities of all such groups who threaten civilised behaviour and kill innocent men, women and kiddies," Singh said.
The premier said he hoped bin Laden's killing would deal a "decisive blow to al Qaeda and other terrorist groups."
India accuses Pakistain of providing shelter and support to beturbanned goon groups planning attacks on Indian soil and has repeatedly pushed the global community -- the United States in particular -- to censure Pakistain accordingly.
US President Barack B.O. Obama said the operation to kill bin Laden was the result of cooperation with Pakistain, but US officials admitted that they had not informed Islamabad before the strike by US forces.
Home Minister Chidambaram focused on India's belief that perpetrators of the 2008 Mumbai attacks continue to be sheltered in Pakistain.
"We once again call upon the government of Pakistain to arrest the persons whose names have been handed over," he said.
In a separate statement, Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna said the US success in killing bin Laden was an "historic development and victorious milestone" in the global war on terror.
But, in another clear reference to Pakistain, he also stressed the need to root out beturbanned goon safe havens in South Asia.
"The world must not let down its united effort to overcome terrorism and eliminate the safe havens and sanctuaries that have been provided to Death Eaters in our own neighbourhood," he said.
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ION PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUM > [Times of Indjuh] OSAMA SAW INDIA AS AN ENEMY, WANTED TO JOIN JIHAD IN KASHMIR, as per Alliance between his Al-Qaeda + the LeT.
Perv. You're bagged! Cold! Shut the fuck up and take it like a man! He's gotta say something. He didn't want the microphone jammed in front of his nose, he just wanted to go home and get drunk.
Former Pak President Pervez Perv Musharraf ... former dictator of Pakistain, who was less dictatorial and corrupt than any Pak civilian government to date ... on Monday accused the U.S. of violating his country's illusory sovereignty by sending in special forces to kill the late Osama bin Laden. ... who sleeps with the fishes... "American troops coming across the border and taking action in one of our towns, that is Abbottabad, is not acceptable to the people of Pakistain. It is a violation of our illusory sovereignty," Mr. Musharraf told CNN-IBN, an Indian news channel. I guess harboring mass murderers is acceptable though?
He added that it would have been "far better if Pak Special Services Group had operated and conducted the mission. To that extent, the modality of handling it and executing the operation is not correct." Yeah, it would. But there's a flaw in your argument. Our guys don't send Candygrams a coupla days before letting the target know when we're gonna show up.
Bin Laden was killed Sunday in a firefight with Navy SEALs in a million-dollar, fortified compound located in an affluent neighborhood in Abbottabad, about a two-hour drive from Pakistain's capital, Islamabad.
Senior U.S. officials, who briefed news hounds early Monday, said the B.O. regime did not inform Pak authorities of the mission until after it was concluded.
Mr. Musharraf said the "lack of trust is very bad." Hmmmmmmm...why do you think that is, Perv?
"If two organizations [are] conducting an operation against a common enemy, there has to be trust and confidence in each other," he said. Ah, there's the problem, Perv. One organization isn't holding up it's end. Can you guess which one?
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You have to have sovereignty before it can be violated....
just saying...
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I would not be surprised if it comes out in time that Perv had the house built for OBL!
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Oh, hi Mushy, didn't know you were still around. Doing better than a lot of ex-dictators I see. Why don't you sit back now and have a big steaming cup of STFU. If you can't manage that, try explaining how OBL was caught in an ISI safe house just 800 meters from your biggest military academy, in a town crawling with current and retired military officers.
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Perv has got some nerve talking about violation of Paki sovereignty. UBL is not a Pakistani citizen; he is an Arab and if anything is stateless; a violation of Pakistan sovereignty. The Taliban go back and forth between Afghanistan and Pakistan with impunity; certainly a violation of Pakistan sovereignty. Pakistan had to know Binnie was living Abbotabad in a million dollar house. He was a 1000 yards from a Pakistani army fort and their military academy. So don't tell me about Pakistani sovereignty--it doesn't really exist. Pakistan wanted the boodle to keep coming every year.
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Heard Perv on the news last night. He claimed the military academy is not in the intelligence business but then he did admit to an "intelligence failure". Riiiiiiighhhtt.
Al-Qaeda criminal mastermindthe late Osama bin Laden ... who has made the transition back to dust... used one of his wives as a human shield in an apparent attempt to try to save his own life during a raid by US covert forces, a top US official said Monday.
"There was family at that compound, and there was a female who was, in fact, in the line of fire that reportedly was used as a shield to shield bin Laden from the incoming fire," counter-terrorism official John Brennan said.
Pressed on reports the woman rubbed out by Navy SEALs during a firefight at a compound in Abbottabad in Pakistain was one of bin Laden's four wives, Brennan told a White House briefing: "That's my understanding."
Brennan said it was not entirely clear "whether or not bin Laden or the son or whatever put her there or she put herself there" or whether the Al-Qaeda chief himself fired rounds during the exchange.
"From a visual perspective, here is bin Laden who has been calling for attacks, living in this million dollar plus compound, living in an area that's far removed from the front, hiding behind women who were put in front of him as a shield," he said.
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Women. Can't live with 'em, and they make lousy human shields...
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[Dawn] Pakistain must prove to the United States that it did not know al Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden ... who has left the building... was hiding in a compound in an affluent neighborhood near the capital of Islamabad, a top US politician said on Monday.
"This is going to be a time of real pressure" on Pakistain "to basically prove to us that they didn't know that bin Laden was there," Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Joseph Lieberman said at a news conference.
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Good luck with that.
Besides proving a negative (Joe oughta know better), they hate derisive laughter.
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Lets look at the evidence-Built 5 years ago in a Garrison Town surrounded by Retired Generals and near their requivalent of Sandhurst/Westpoint.
You dont need to be Sherlock Homes to work out that a new house built bigger and higher than the rest of the houses at the expense of a million dollars would not raise suspicion on who lives there!
Ps Reading UK papers 'Waziristan House' was reported to Police many times by neighbours re army drills,jihad chanting but the police didnt want to know saying it comes under military jurisdiction!
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The million dollar house was really sad looking. Who would have though the housing bubble in Pakistan had inflated prices so bad that such a dump cost so much. Without a view even.
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It looked like a pretty big property in an area where most houses had pocket handkerchief gardens. No doubt the ladies of the house did their sunbathing at night, when the satellites couldn't see them.
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Well, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, jeez...if we knew he was there, don't ya think we would've done something about it?
HA! That proves it! Send Kerry over with more money!
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Huh? The CIA and DI had both 8 months to gather Intel, and the satellite and ground technology and resources to do it. They know everything. BHO's 'I-did-it' self-aggrandizement, could be a ploy to pose the incident as settled. What do you say, GOP?
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CNN this Guam AM > LEON PANETTA = repor said that EITEHR THE PAK GOVT "IS INVOLVED" IN HIDING OSAMA, OR "THEY ARE INCOMPETENT".
* ION PANETTA, WAFF > WHITE HOUSE INSIDER: OBAMA HESITATED, PANETTA ISSUED ORDER TO KILL OSAMA BIN LADEN.
ARTIC = also indics that, acting on INTEL rceived, A TIRED-OF-WAITING GEN. PETRAEUS WAS REPOR PREPPING TO ORDER AN AIRSTIKE AGZ OSAMA AT ABBOTTOBAD INDEPENDENT? FROM ORDERS FROM THE WHITE HOUSE???
Whoa.
VERSUS
* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > OSAMA DEATH PRE-PLANNED BY US CIA + PAK ISI?, in order to give the USA = POTUS BAMMER + ADMIN a cover to end the GWOT + "gracefully" exit from AFPAK on a high note
POTUS BAMMER gets re-elected for 2012 despite Radical Islam = Insurgency not only NOT MIL DEFEATED BUT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE IN POTENT GOVT. POWER-SHARING [e.g. Hezbollah in Lebanon] WHILE ALSO RECEIVING POST-WITHDRAWAL US $$$ AID IN SUPPORT OF AFPAK "DEMOCRACY".
* SAME > DECLARE PAKISTAN A TERRORIST STATE: SALMAN RUSHDIE.
* SAME > CHINA SWINGS TO DEFENSE OF PAKISTAN | CHINA BACKS PAKISTAN GOVT. AFTER OBL DEATH.
Islamabad's motives + explanations, etc. as per its actions before + during Abbottobad raid by US due to fear by Beijing of PAK national instability/destabilz iff Pak Govt. is not supported.
IIUC, CHINA > PAKISTAN = UNCLE MUAMMAR IN LIBYUH = CHINA'S + US, WORLD'S "FRENEMY" IN WEST ASIA. THE WORLD WID A PRE-ABBOTTOBAD, OSAMA-HIDING ISLAMABAD IS PREFERRED TO THE POST-ABBOTTOBAD, POST-OSAMA ALTERNATIVE IFF ISLAMABAD = PAK STATE [Nuclear = Nukulaar] COLLAPSES???
GENEVA, May 3 (Reuters) - The United Nations' top human rights official called on the United States on Tuesday to give the U.N. details about Osama bin Laden's killing and said that all counter-terrorism operations must respect international law.
But Navi Pillay, U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, said that the al Qaeda leader, killed in a U.S. operation in Pakistan, had committed crimes against humanity as self-confessed mastermind of "the most appalling acts of terrorism", including the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on America.
Thanks for considering that...
It was always clear that taking bin Laden alive was likely to be difficult, she said, noting that U.S. authorities had stated that they intended to arrest him if possible.
Turns out that it wasn't possible, and anyways we forgot to include a cop and a warrant in the final composition of SEAL Team Six...
"This was a complex operation and it would be helpful if we knew the precise facts surrounding his killing. The United Nations has consistently emphasised that all counter-terrorism acts must respect international law," Pillay said in a statement issued in response to a Reuters request.
Except that terrorism exists outside of all international law. Terrorists should not be protected by international law. Kill them and be done with it.
"If he was captured and brought before a court, I have no doubt he would have been charged with the most serious crimes, including the mass murder of civilians that took place on 9/11, which were planned and systematic and in my view amounted to crime against humanity," said Pillay, a former U.N. war crimes judge.
Who no doubt is unhappy over not being able to preside over the trial of the new century.
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The United Nations' top human rights official called on the United States on Tuesday to give the U.N. details about Osama bin Laden's killing and said that all counter-terrorism operations must respect international law.
Here we go with that crap again. Nobody elected the UN. The UN does not impose "international law" on people. They are a diplomatic body, not a legislative body. They have no authority to produce any "laws".
The only "detail" they need is "he was shot in the head for killing more Americans in one day than the Japanese Imperial Fleet killed at Pearl Harbor and Midway combined".
The UN "rights boss" can piss off. Just exactly who does he think he is "boss" of, anyway?
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Lets just take you to Gitmo you mass murder sympathizer. That is where you belong. You can be practice material for the other inmates for thier anticipation of the here after.
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Well, since we've got that mock-up that the SEALs trained on, let's just re-enact it for him. Pillay plays OBL, the SEALs play the SEALs, same ROE, same weapons loads.
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Navi - please send any complaints in writing to the Pentagon. Please include your longitude and latitude to insure a prompt response.
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Old standby: FOAD.
Although FYNQ does have a timeless allure.
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So who the f-ck writes these international laws? The United Nations? Don't make me laugh.
Where the f-k was Phillay when those 3,000 people died on 9/11? I didn't hear him ask Binny for facts on the deliberate targeting and murder of 3,000 innocent civilians.
Tell Navi he can have the facts when he can present to the american people the facts of the planning and execution of 9/11 and every other terrorist attack since.
[Ma'an] Israeli authorities banned Popular Front for the Liberation of Paleostine ... Paleostinian Marxist movement, founded in 1967. It is considered a terrorist organization by more than 30 countries including the U.S., European Union, Australia, Canada, and Antarctica. The PFLP's stated goal is the establishment of a socialist State in Paleostine. They pioneered armed aircraft hijackings in the late 60s and early 70s... leader Abdul Rahim Malouh from attending reconciliation meetings in Cairo, officials said Monday.
Malouh was appointed to head the PFLP delegation in talks ahead of the signing of a surprise agreement to reconcile Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, and Fatah and reunite the Paleostinian territories.
Israeli forces refused to grant him permission to leave the West Bank so he will be replaced by Dr Maher Al-Taher, a PFLP official in Syria, the leftist party said in a statement.
PFLP said it encouraged all efforts to reunite Paleostine and to end Israeli violations of Paleostinians' rights.
Delegations of several Paleostinian factions left the Gazoo Strip on Monday through the Rafah crossing on Egypt's border to attend meetings in the Egyptian capital, set to begin on Tuesday.
Hamas leader in exile Khalid Mash'al and Fatah leader the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas ... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial... are expected to sign the unity deal on Wednesday, ending years of rivalry which divided the West Bank and Gazoo under separate governments.
The Egyptian government invited all Paleostinian political parties to Cairo to discuss and approve the implementation of the unity deal, and to attend the signing ceremony.
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Muslim support for the assassinated al-Qaida leader has declined rapidly since 2003, but Palestinian Muslims remain more enthusiastic that he would do the right thing; only 1% Lebanese Muslims voice support for bin Laden.
[Haaretz] - Among six predominantly Muslim countries recently surveyed, Muslims in the Palestinian territories voiced the most support for the assassinated al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, a poll released on Monday showed.
The poll, conducted by Pew Research Centers Global Attitudes Project, found that Muslims around the world displayed a declining confidence in bin Laden, while the Palestinian Muslims retained the highest rates for the assassinated terrorist.
More than 34 percent of Palestinian Muslims said in 2011 they had confidence in the terrorist leader to do the right thing in world affairs, a nearly 20 percent drop since 2009. In 2003, 72 percent of Palestinians voiced support for bin Laden; Turkey showed the least support that year, with 15 percent.
Indonesian Muslims showed a decline from 41 percent of in favor of bin Laden in 2007, to 26 percent in 2011, while 22 percent of Egyptians and 13 percent of Muslims in Jordan voiced their confidence in the al-Qaida chief.
Bin Laden had almost no support among Turkish (3%) or Lebanese Muslims (1%).
The survey showed how support for the al-Qaida leader had dropped drastically across the board since 2003, with the greatest decline occurring in Jordan, where the support for bin Laden dropped from 56 percent in 2003 to 13 percent in the current poll.
Palestinian Muslims offered more positive opinions of the terror group relatively, (28% favorable), but about more than 68 percent of the Muslim population viewed al-Qaida unfavorably.
(Ma'an) -- Gaza Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh condemned the US assassination of Al-Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden ... who is no more... on Monday, while a Palestinian Authority spokesman said the death helped the cause of peace.
In the West Bank, spokesman of the Fatah-led Palestinian Authority Ghassan Khatib said in a statement Monday that the death of the Al-Qaeda chief "is good for peace across the world."
He added: "But what counts is to overcome the rhetoric and violent methods that were used and encouraged by bin Laden and others in the world."
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We should pay careful attention as to just which peoples and organizations are saddened or are protesting bin Ladens liquidation.
Those are our enemies !!
Arabs in the village of Silwan, adjacent to the City of David neighborhood in Jerusalem, rioted Monday night in protest over the elimination of the late Osama bin Laden ... Maybe his Mom misses him... . The rioters threw stones at police and attempted to block roads.
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I just read some immam was happy he died "as a martyr, like he wanted to"?
I guess some folks can protest both sides of an issue...
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Really odd to riot over a "warrior" being killed in war. That is sort of the risk of the job and killing the enemy is what the other side is supposed to do. Sadness would be more appropriate a response, but then the Muslim world is 'different'.
Lunaticholy man Omar Bakri said on Monday that with the death of al-Qaeda chief the late Osama bin Laden ... who no longer exists... , the Arab world had "lost a leader," adding that he expected "Dire Revenge™" attacks in Europe.
"The news of the death of Sheikh Osama has saddened and delighted us at the same time. It saddened us because we lost a leader in the Arab region and it is welcomed because he fell a martyr as he wanted," Bakri told Agence La Belle France Presse in Leb.
"Undoubtedly the martyrdom of Osama bin Laden will infuse new life into the next generation as jihad will not stop. We expect reactions from this generation in Europe ... their operations will take Dire Revenge™ for Sheikh Osama."
Bakri, a Sunni radical, was sentenced to life imprisonment by a military court for inciting murder, but was freed on bail in November pending a new trial. He lives in the northern Lebanese port city of Tripoli.
Originally from Syria but holding a Lebanese passport, Bakri denies having any direct link with al-Qaeda and had called the trained September 11 jacket wallahs "magnificent."
He settled in Perfidious Albion in 1986 where he became a leading figure among Islamist circles until the authorities tightened the screws after the 2005 bombings in London. Since then he has been banned from Perfidious Albion.
Bin Laden was killed overnight on Monday in an operation by U.S. special forces in Pakistain.
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...and it is welcomed because he fell a martyr as he wanted
So. Still trying to sneak on the boat back to England, bitch? I'm sure you miss Anjem's purty mouth and firm, perky buttocks.
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As per WIKILEAKS, OBL associate AL-LIBBI says he believes there is a NUCBOMB [more than one?] already positioned "somewhere in Europe" although he claims to have no specific knowledge of its location - IHO said NucBomb will be detonated iff OBL were captured or killed.
IOW, A NUCLEAR EURO 9-11[s?] IS COMING???
* OTOH WND > [Anjem Choudary] BRITISH CLERIC: JIHAD COMING TO THE "HEART OF AMERICA".
* SAME > AL-QAIDA WARNS US OF "BIG REVENGE" OVER OSAMA'S DEATH, [AQ in the Gaza Strip = Jihadiya Salafiya Group] JIHADIST LEADER SAYS CELLS WORLDWIDE SET TO LAUNCH ATTACKS ON AMERICANS.
> TARGET ROME? = seat of Roman Christianity = Vatican.
> TARGET LONDON? = colonial ties to AFPAK + INDJUH + ME. Also read, "DECAPITATION" STRIKE AGZ UK ROYAL FAMILY, UK = NATO #2 behind USA.
> TARGET PARIS? = CHARLES MARTEL + Battle of Tours thingy, DESTRUC OF PARIS = indir the FALL OF MONACO + MADRID.
Post-Osama Radical Islam = Mil Terrs need something to prove.
[Iran Press TV] Hundreds of Syrians and foreign nationals have gathered near the US Embassy in Damascus ...The City of Jasmin is the oldest continuously-inhabited city in the world. It has not always been inhabited by the same set of fascisti... calling on Washington to stop meddling in Syria's internal affairs.
The demonstrators on Sunday condemned the US "double standards" policy towards Syria and other countries while "turning a blind eye to Israeli crimes against Paleostinians," Syria's Arab News Agency (SANA) reported.
Pointing to the human rights ...which are usually open to widely divergent definitions... violations committed by the US in Guantanamo in Cuba, Abu Ghraib Prison in Iraq, Afghanistan and in their secret prisons spread around the world, the protesters urged Washington to "mind its own internal affairs" before lecturing "freedom and human rights" to other countries.
The demonstrators said that United States should refrain from spreading chaos in Syria.
They said that the Syrian nation will "refute all lies, will not accept injustice, will foil all US conspiracies and will sort out their problems on their own."
Syrian President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad has introduced a new package of reforms, which he has said would meet the demands of pro-reform protesters in the country.
Assad has also granted amnesty for all those jugged during the recent protests, aside from those who Damascus says have committed criminal acts against the homeland and its citizens.
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killing osama has been great for flushing the like minded people out. HOpe people have cameras and are recording, logging, taking names, addresses
[Iran Press TV] A senior Iranian politician has raised doubt about the US claim that al-Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden ... who is no more... has been killed by American forces near Islamabad.
"We are not sure how accurate the announcement made by the United States is as they have in the past claimed that Bin Laden has been killed," head of the Parliament (Majlis) National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Alaeddin Boroujerdi was quoted by ISNA as saying on Monday.
"Today 47 or 48 countries have military forces in Afghanistan," he said.
"They haven't accomplished much even if in fact they (the US) are telling the truth about having killed Bin Laden after ten years," Boroujerdi concluded.
On Sunday, US President Barack B.O. Obama announced that al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed by US forces after he was found hiding in a compound in Pakistain.
This is while analysts and military experts believe that the United States had delayed the killing of bin Laden to continue the presence of US-led forces in war-torn Afghanistan, a Press TV correspondent reported.
The US president further said that "The US has never been and will never be at war with Islam," adding that bin Laden was also a mass-murderer of Mohammedans.
The announcement of bin Laden's death comes almost ten years after the September 11 attacks on the United States.
Meanwhile, ...back at the scene of the crime, Lieutenant Queeg had an idea... a US official says bin Laden's body has been buried at sea, alleging that his hasty burial was in accordance with Islamic law, which requires burial within 24 hours of death.
This is while burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not determine a timeframe for burial.
The official added that finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted man was difficult, so the US decided to bury him at sea.
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At least they're not worried about OBL being hidden at a secret prison in the Negev Desert, being forced to eat pork and beans and listen to rap "music".
That's what I am worried about.
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[Iran Press TV] Iran's Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Salehi ... current Iranian Minister of Foreign Affairs since 13 December 2010. Perivous his appointment as Minister of Foreign Affairs, he was Head of Atomic Energy Organization of Iran from 16 July 2009 to 23 January 2011. He was also Iranian Representative in the ineffective International Atomic Energy Agency from 1997 to 2005... says the involvement of foreign forces in Bahrain's crisis has only served to complicate the situation.
"The deployment of foreign forces to Bahrain not only did not help resolve the problem, but also complicated the situation," Salehi said on Monday.
He made the remarks in a meeting with Qatari Emir Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani and Crown Prince Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani in the capital city of Doha.
Salehi arrived in Doha earlier on Monday and was welcomed by Qatari Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Ahmad Al Mahmoud and Iranian Ambassador to Doha Abdollah Sohrabi.
The Iranian foreign minister stressed the necessity of diplomatic behavior towards the peaceful demands of Bahraini people and the withdrawal of foreign forces from the country.
Anti-government protesters have been holding peaceful demonstrations across Bahrain since mid-February, calling for an end to the Al Khalifa dynasty's over-40-year rule.
On March 13, Soddy Arabia and the United Arab Emirates deployed police and military forces in the kingdom upon Manama's request to quell the nationwide protests.
According to local sources, scores of protesters have been killed during the government-sanctioned crackdown with the foreign troops contributing to a rise in the violence.
Referring to the recent developments in Syria, Salehi welcomed the implementation of reforms by President-for-Life Bashir Pencilneck al-Assad, One of the last of the old-fashioned hereditary iron-fisted fascist dictators. Before going into the family business Pencilneck was an eye doctor... encouraging the Syrian government to pay attention to the popular demands.
The Qatari officials stressed the importance of Iran's role in establishing peace and security in the region, and called for the continuation of talks between regional countries to resolve problems.
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See also NEWS KERALA > NO MORE EXCUSES FOR WESTERN INVASION IN MIDDLE EAST: IRAN, nor for foreign forces to come to the ME Regions to fight terrorism.
Iran FM Spox Ramin Mehmanparast.
VERSUS
* SAME > IRAQI EXPERT: OSAMA'S DEATH NOT A BIG LOSS TO AL-QAEDA.
ARTIC > PERT = Osama Bin Laden was an ideological figure whom had only relinguished much of his former control to Ayman Zawahiri, THE IGA IN IRAQ STILL SEES AL-QAEDA AS VERY MUCH MAINTAINING A PHYSICAL GROUND PRESENCE IN THE COUNTRY DESPITE THE CAPTURE OR DEATHS OF MANY OF THEIR LEADERS.
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Not exactly an invasion - the Saudis et al are in Bahrain under a mutual defense treaty. All perfectly legal, if not exactly sporting. Which is one reason why the Euros and the UN are have been rather circumspect.
Osama Bin Laden's last wish, according to a document purported to be his will, was that his wives not remarry after his death and his children not join al-Qaida.
Al-Anbaa, a Kuwaiti newspaper, reported on Tuesday that the will, marked "private and confidential" was dated 14 December 2001, three months after the 9/11 attacks, when US forces were hunting him in Afghanistan.
The four-page document, written on a computer and signed by "your brother Abu Abdullah Osama Muhammad Bin Laden," predicts that he would die by the "treachery" of those around him. Al-Anbaa does not reveal how or when it obtained the will or whether it was able to authenticate it. Al-Majallah, a Saudi-owned Arabic magazine, published a similar document in 2002 but it was dismissed as a fraud by a pro-jihadi website.
In the document, Bin Laden lists the assault on New York's twin towers in a sequence beginning with the suicide bomb attack on US marines in Lebanon in 1983, the killing of 19 US marines serving as UN peacekeepers in Somalia in 1993 and the bombing of the US embassy in Nairobi in 1998.
But its most striking feature is that he orders his wives not to remarry and urges his children not to join al-Qaida or go to "the front", citing the example of the seventh century Muslim Caliph Omar bin Khattab to his son Abdullah. Bin Laden also asked his children to forgive him for not having spent enough time with them.
"I have chosen a path fraught with dangers and endured hardships, disappointment and betrayal. If it wasn't for betrayal, things would be different today.
"As for you, my sons, forgive me if I failed to devote more of my time to you since I answered the call to Jihad."
He ends his will by advising "the mujahideen wherever they are" to suspend "the fight against the Jews and the Crusaders and start to purge your ranks of agents and defeatists."
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He ends his will by advising "the mujahideen wherever they are" to suspend "the fight against the Jews and the Crusaders and start to purge your ranks of agents and defeatists."
Suspend? Really? Internal purge? Sounds good to me.
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"Iff it wasn't for BETRAYAL...AGENTS AND DEFEATISTS" > HMMMM, HMMMMM...
I for one am NOT celebrating his Death - indeed, I will not believe he is actually/truly dead until all of the loopholes + defects, etc. in the Abbottobad raid are properly answered.
The Osama I remember was a part of my life - He was dedicated to Islam + to his Cause.
* "Things would be different today" - I can agree, as I often wonder how Osama + Islam + US, World would be different iff 9-11 had never occurred, + OBL + Top Boyz had followed the NON-TERROR/VIOLENT JIHADIST PATH.
FROM LATE 1960's-1970's GUAM TAOTAMONAS + MADONNA-VS-WHITNEY [Texas-sized Asteroids] TO THE AFGHAN WAR, ETC. THE PATHS OF OSAMA + ME SEEM TO BE INTERTWINED.
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#1 He ends his will by advising "the mujahideen wherever they are" to suspend "the fight against the Jews and the Crusaders and start to purge your ranks of agents and defeatists."
By all means wills should be obeyed. If they are not obeyed it is a blasphemy against Allen. Besides, if the will is not obeyed you die.
Iranian politician exploits Binny's demise. Perhaps the most whacked-out perspective possible (and one wonders if he's been sampling his neighbors key agricultural export...)
The US has killed the Al-Qaeda leader, Osama Bin Laden, in a bid to prevent any possible leakage of intelligence and information about the US-Al-Qaeda joint terrorist operations, a senior Iranian legislator underscored on Monday.
"The West was fully satisfied with bin Laden's performance during the past years and today... it was obliged to kill him to prevent possible leakage of the priceless intelligence that he had," member of the parliament's National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Javad Jahangirzadeh told FNA on Monday.
He mentioned that the West seeks to rebuild its damaged face in the international community, and reiterated that Bin Laden's survival could endanger the interests of the western countries and disclose their past and future clandestine operations.
Jahangirzadeh warned the world countries that the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.
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Now wait. I thought Javad was just a cut-out for those two guys we have much higher up in the regime?
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Shhhhh, Matt. Mum's the word!
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Javad's done well for us. The guards don't even know he surreptitiously carries that thumb drive in his ass. Whoops! Did I spill that secret?
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the West has hatched a new plot to find new pretexts for invading and occupying the Muslim countries.
Riiight. Because the lands are so fertile, the climate so fair, and the natives so orderly and industrious. We're just climbing over each other in a frenzy of greed to claim singular title to these coveted jewels.
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Oh, come on Random - it's the oil. We're going to subjugate them and steal their oil. And convert them all to Episcopalians, while we're at it.
Like we did Japan and Germany and Korea ...
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The oil thing never made any sense to me. Every time we take the fight to Dar-al-Islam, we never steal any - and the price goes UP.
I just think it's funny how these wankers flatter themselves. They caught a lucky break with the combustion engine and the Industrial Age, but that ain't gonna last forever. I hope I live long enough to see how things go when they have nothing anyone wants to buy.
[Washington Examiner] A top al-Qaeda ideologue vowed Dire Revenge Monday for the killing of the late Osama bin Laden ... who sleeps with the fishes... by U.S. forces, in the first jihadist admission of the bully boy leader's death.
The reaction of the online jihadi community to their hero's death varied between expressions of disbelief
It seems Allah wasn't watching over their boy after all. It's just that the Yanks hadn't yet got there.
mixed with protestations of Dire Revenge and vows to continue the fight against Islam's enemies.
The prominent commentator, going by the online name "Assad al-Jihad2," posted on Death Eater websites a long eulogy for bin Laden and said the Islamic holy war against the West was far from over.
And vice versa, lad. Ponder that idea for a bit -- understanding will come to you.
"Woe to his enemies. By God, we will avenge the killing of the Sheik of Islam," he wrote. "Those who wish that jihad has ended or weakened, I tell them: Let us wait a little bit."
I think we call those fly traps. As in, "Come in to my parlour," said the spider to the fly. Iraq was a very effective one, Afghanistan is working nicely, too... and the locals train up well enough to continue the exercise, once they discover proper motivation. (In Afghanistan, they now don't get to learn how to shoot until they've master basic literacy, and they have to master basic numeracy to handle the cell phone-connected bank account for their pay. It's a very clever scheme.)
Militant websites with links to al-Qaeda regularly post long interviews with al-Jihad2 on the protocols of waging holy war. He is also often used to resolve questions of doctrine.
"The battle between us and international tyranny is long and will not be stopped by the martyrdom of our beloved one, the lion of Islam," said al-Jihad2, whose own online name means lion of jihad. "How many martyrdom seekers have been born today?"
U.S. forces raided bin Laden's heavily guarded compound in a suburb of Pakistain's capital late Sunday, killing him, his son, a woman and two others.
The death of bin Laden marks a triumph of the U.S. in its long struggle against al-Qaeda which began long before the Sept. 11 attacks with the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa that killed 231 people.
Revenge attacks could come from the al-Qaeda franchises existing in the tribal areas of Pakistain, southern Algeria and especially Yemen -- which hosts one of the most vigorous branches.
While most analysts believe bin Laden had long ago turned over the day-to-day operations of the Death Eater network to his lieutenants, he remained an inspirational and charismatic figure to jihadists around the world.
Only now the inspiration is, just sit tight and martyrdom will come to you in the night.
"The weight of Sheik Osama is equal to that of the whole United States," said al-Jihad2 in his eulogy.
"Which country managed to attack the Pentagon? Which countries managed to send the most powerful country in the world into decline? The one who did that is a nation called Osama bin Laden," he said.
Hussein bin Mahmoud, a prominent and respected writer for the bully boy web forums wrote a long article Monday, entitled "Osama is not dead ... he is alive with his message."
He said Americans would be allowed to celebrate a few days and then "we will resume the Islamic war ... wait for the worst to come for you and the agents in Pakistain, Afghanistan and Europe."
Any Dire Revenge attacks should be well planned because "individual and random operations lead to negative results," he cautioned.
Several of the supervisors for the web forums made rare public statements, cautioning participants to await official confirmation from al-Qaeda itself.
Assad al-Islam, the general supervisor of one forum, however said "if he died, his jihadi message has not, we are all mujahedeen."
Posted by: Fred ||
05/03/2011 00:00 ||
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Yeah.... but .... grabbing the documents and computers at Osama's little love nest means you were all sold out by your lover....
and...
sometime...
somewhere ...
when you least expect it...
and even if you only were a Saudi sheik giving pocket money...
you will buy the farm in the worst possible of ways...
so...
sleep tight jihadist a-holes...
Posted by: Water Modem ||
05/03/2011 2:54 Comments ||
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al-Qaeda is down to its shorts, they dont have the reach and this isnt exactly Bill Clinton times.
Zarquawi is what alQaeda is.
Osama is what al Qaeda actually is.
And actually they are breathing through a very long straw.
We ARE gonna win. And Goombahs who are on those computer files we took in Osama's bedroom all have addresses and our people are smart enough.
We never meant to take Osama alive ( do you believe that stuff?) And we have every intention of doing whatever we need to do to grind the enemies of the United States into bloody paste.
You dont like us? We dont like you, and what counts is who wins and its gonna be us. We have the men and the resources and (FACE IT!) you dont. We are going to kill you, Abdrool, your mother and the dog too.
Grand Canyon right through the middle of your head.
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[Iran Press TV] US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ... sometimes described as the Smartest Woman in the World and at other times as Mrs. Bill, never as Another Richelieu ... says Washington would not stop fighting al-Qaeda despite the killing of the late Osama bin Laden ... who used to be alive but now he's not... by American forces.
"The battle to stop al-Qaeda and its syndicate of terror will not end with the death of bin Laden," she said a statement on Monday.
"Indeed, we must take this opportunity to renew our resolve and redouble our efforts," the top US diplomat added.
She made the comment after US President Barack B.O. Obama said in a televised speech late Sunday that US forces conducted an operation that killed the leader of al-Qaeda in Abbottabad, Pakistain.
"In Afghanistan, we will continue taking the fight to al-Qaeda and their Taliban allies, while working to support Afghan people as they build a stronger government and began to take responsibility for their own security," Clinton said from Washington.
Analysts and military experts believe that the United States had delayed the killing of bin Laden to continue the presence of US-led forces in war-torn Afghanistan, a Press TV correspondent reported. The lack of transparency over bin Laden's death has cast further doubt over the announcement.
Meanwhile, ...back at the cheese factory, all the pieces finally fell together in Fluffy's mind... a US official says bin Laden's body has been buried at sea, alleging that his hasty burial was in accordance with Islamic law, which requires burial within 24 hours of death.
This is while burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not determine a timeframe for burial.
The official added that finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted man was difficult, so the US decided to bury him at sea.
Posted by: Fred ||
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As per NEWS KERALA + TOPIX, the PAKISTANI TALIBAN = TTP is threatening to strike BOTH THE US + PAK GOVTS, + their Security forces.
ISLAMABAD is the TTP #1 target while the USA is #2.
"US GOVT" > infers a major Terrstrike agz Washington, DC in CONUS since the same is not located in Pakistan, + after Osama's demise I don't think the TTP will settle for just a lowly regional US Embassy strike.
* NEWS KERALA > THREATS TO US APPEAR ON AL-QAEDA WEBSITE [Shumukh al-Islam].
ARTIC > One of the threats described in same seems to infer a "tit-for-tat" IMPLIED ASSASSINATION THREAT AGZ US GOVT LEADERS WHICH I INTERPRETE AS MEANING POTUS BAMMER.
** Also, the FBI has upgraded its TOP TEN "MOST WANTED" LIST since Osama's demise.
AYMAN ZAWAHIRI = is FBI #4 below #2 ADAM GADHAN???
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